Re: Update on 2.3.0 situation and Windows-specific issues

2018-03-07 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Sat, Mar 03, 2018 at 08:26:17PM +, Scott Kostyshak wrote: > If we do not go forward with the release as discussed in the preceding > paragraph, another question is: should we wait another few days to see > if we are ready to release the Windows binaries so we can announce > everything

Re: Solution: Summary for the Win installer problem

2018-03-07 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 07.03.2018 um 18:16 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: OK, I see now. But wasn't there something equivalent before that? The console is a new concept. Before there exist 2 different programs, one for the settings, one for the package handling. the new console unites them. What makes

Re: Solution: Summary for the Win installer problem

2018-03-07 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 07.03.2018 um 17:27 schrieb Uwe Stöhr: I must admit that I haven't tested the "never" case for a long time. I tested this now and the installer correctly respects the setting "never". So never means never. You don't get any updates nor packages if you really don't want this. Configuring

Re: Solution: Summary for the Win installer problem

2018-03-07 Thread Pavel Sanda
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > I think that explaining people how to install LaTeX themselves is the way > to go. You cannot bear the weight of basically maintaining a LaTeX > distribution on top of the ever changing MikTex. The example of rupee that > you gave later in your message is typically

Re: Solution: Summary for the Win installer problem

2018-03-07 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 07/03/2018 à 17:27, Uwe Stöhr a écrit : In general: I have no problem in being criticized. But I have a problem that I am talking directly to the MiKTeX developer to find a solution and when I do what he proposes you are telling me that it can be done better. I think you are indeed the

Re: Solution: Summary for the Win installer problem

2018-03-07 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 06.03.2018 um 16:37 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: In general: I have no problem in being criticized. But I have a problem that I am talking directly to the MiKTeX developer to find a solution and when I do what he proposes you are telling me that it can be done better. The goal is

Re: Update on 2.3.0 situation and Windows-specific issues

2018-03-07 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 07/03/2018 à 16:24, Scott Kostyshak a écrit : However, you can use LyX also without LaTeX. The LyX installer provides an option for this. This way you can try around and maybe later install LaTeX. A later installed LaTeX (TeXLive or MiKTeX) can be found by LyX if the path to the latex.exe is

Re: Update on 2.3.0 situation and Windows-specific issues

2018-03-07 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Wed, Mar 07, 2018 at 03:08:19PM +, Uwe Stöhr wrote: > Am 05.03.2018 um 17:58 schrieb Joel Kulesza: > > > At least, the way I read the step, the installer is the component not > > finding the latex.exe executable, not the LyX executable itself > > Just for information: > The LyX installer

Re: Solution: Summary for the Win installer problem

2018-03-07 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Wed, Mar 07, 2018 at 03:17:05PM +, Uwe Stöhr wrote: > Am 04.03.2018 um 19:36 schrieb Uwe Stöhr: > > > I would nevertheless wait with the announcement because the MiKTeX > > developer promised to make a release just for us soon. If it will be > > available by Tuesday, I will create a new

Re: Solution: Summary for the Win installer problem

2018-03-07 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Tue, Mar 06, 2018 at 03:37:44PM +, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > Either invest time to try it out on Windows on your own or trust me and > > the MiKTeX developer. I have other things to do on a sunny day than to > > sit at home like a nerd with 3 different PCs to test different > >

Re: Solution: Summary for the Win installer problem

2018-03-07 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 04.03.2018 um 19:36 schrieb Uwe Stöhr: I would nevertheless wait with the announcement because the MiKTeX developer promised to make a release just for us soon. If it will be available by Tuesday, I will create a new installer, if not, let's release LyX 2.3.0 with the installer version 3 I

Re: Solution: Summary for the Win installer problem

2018-03-07 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Tue, Mar 06, 2018 at 01:44:38PM +, Uwe Stöhr wrote: > Here is my last attempt to explain the situation. Then I will be quiet I hope that we can continue this discussion. Specifically, I think the proposal to give a message and ask the user is reasonable. Thanks for all of your time on

Re: Update on 2.3.0 situation and Windows-specific issues

2018-03-07 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 05.03.2018 um 17:58 schrieb Joel Kulesza: At least, the way I read the step, the installer is the component not finding the latex.exe executable, not the LyX executable itself Just for information: The LyX installer searches for the latex.exe. If it cannot find it, LyX cannot find it as

Re: Update on 2.3.0 situation and Windows-specific issues

2018-03-07 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Wed, Mar 07, 2018 at 03:01:42PM +, Uwe Stöhr wrote: > Am 04.03.2018 um 16:50 schrieb Scott Kostyshak: > > >The following statements are specific to Windows users: > > ... > >- After the installation of LyX, the MiKTeX package manager pops up. You > > can just close it. > >

Re: Update on 2.3.0 situation and Windows-specific issues

2018-03-07 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 04.03.2018 um 16:50 schrieb Scott Kostyshak: The following statements are specific to Windows users: ... - After the installation of LyX, the MiKTeX package manager pops up. You can just close it. This item can be removed. This is now fixed in MiKTeX. regards Uwe

Re: Update on 2.3.0 situation and Windows-specific issues

2018-03-07 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Mon, Mar 05, 2018 at 04:58:37PM +, Joel Kulesza wrote: > At least, the way I read the step, the installer is the component not > finding the latex.exe executable, not the LyX executable itself > post-install (at which point, one couldn't "just close the installer" > because it would have