Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

On Jul 17, 2011, at 12:52 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote: A template is a means, not an end. As soon as you finish tailoring the sketch of a document (using the class that you've chosen) to your likes, then you're good to go: start writing and filling it up with actual content. When you finish

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

On Jul 17, 2011, at 12:52 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote: A template is a means, not an end. As soon as you finish tailoring the sketch of a document (using the class that you've chosen) to your likes, then you're good to go: start writing and filling it up with actual content. When you finish

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

On Jul 17, 2011, at 12:52 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote: > A template is a means, not an end. As soon as you finish tailoring the > sketch of a document (using the class that you've chosen) to your > likes, then you're good to go: start writing and filling it up with > actual content. When you finish

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

Hello On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 9:26 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: OK, I have a simple document, of a kind I create frequently. I've selected a document class -- koma-script article -- as a basis on which to begin building a template, have made some changes to the document, and

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

Hello On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 9:26 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: OK, I have a simple document, of a kind I create frequently. I've selected a document class -- koma-script article -- as a basis on which to begin building a template, have made some changes to the document, and

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

Hello On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 9:26 PM, Eric Weir wrote: > > OK, I have a simple document, of a kind I create frequently. I've selected a > document class -- koma-script article -- as a basis on which to begin > building a template, have made some changes to the document,

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

OK, I have a simple document, of a kind I create frequently. I've selected a document class -- koma-script article -- as a basis on which to begin building a template, have made some changes to the document, and have saved a copy of it in the templates folder. I am not certain that is

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

OK, I have a simple document, of a kind I create frequently. I've selected a document class -- koma-script article -- as a basis on which to begin building a template, have made some changes to the document, and have saved a copy of it in the templates folder. I am not certain that is

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

OK, I have a simple document, of a kind I create frequently. I've selected a document class -- koma-script article -- as a basis on which to begin building a template, have made some changes to the document, and have saved a copy of it in the templates folder. I am not certain that is

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

I've found the LyX layouts folder. In /applications/lyx.app/resources/layouts. How do I make use of them? Through documents settings? If so, where exactly? Through documents settings document class I see a collection of document classes. Many are identified as unavailable. Through tools

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

Hello On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 3:18 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: I've found the LyX layouts folder. In /applications/lyx.app/resources/layouts. How do I make use of them? Through documents settings? If so, where exactly? Through documents settings document class I see a

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

Am 14.07.2011 um 15:18 schrieb Eric Weir: I've found the LyX layouts folder. In /applications/lyx.app/resources/layouts. Are you sure? It should be /Applications/LyX.app/Contents/Resources/layouts. How do I make use of them? Through documents settings? If so, where exactly? Through

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

On Jul 14, 2011, at 10:47 AM, Liviu Andronic wrote: Most of your questions should already be answered in either of these three documents in Help: Intro, Tutorial and User's Guide. (For example, User's Guide Section 3.1.2.2 explains why some classes would be tagged as 'unavailable'.) If you

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

On 07/13/2011 08:58 PM, Eric Weir wrote: The sort of thing you want to do would probably be quite easy with the memoir class, or perhaps with one of the koma-script classes (probably the article one, since it looks as if you do not need chapters here), all of which provide hooks for

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 1:58 AM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: The documentation for memoir [memman] is forbidding, for koma [scrguien] much less so. Sadly this seems to be the modern tradition. Documentation, if it even exists, is targeted to the advanced user or the class author

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

On Jul 14, 2011, at 10:59 AM, Stephan Witt wrote: Am 14.07.2011 um 15:18 schrieb Eric Weir: I've found the LyX layouts folder. In /applications/lyx.app/resources/layouts. Are you sure? It should be /Applications/LyX.app/Contents/Resources/layouts. Thanks, Stephan. I was careless.

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

On 07/14/2011 11:42 AM, Eric Weir wrote: Through documents settings document class I see a collection of document classes. Many are identified as unavailable. Through tools tex information latex classes I see a huge list of classes. Are these available for use in LyX? If not, how do I

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

On Thursday, July 14, 2011 11:42:09 AM Trevor Jenkins wrote: On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 1:58 AM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: The documentation for memoir [memman] is forbidding, for koma [scrguien] much less so. Sadly this seems to be the modern tradition. Documentation, if it

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

On Jul 14, 2011, at 11:42 AM, Trevor Jenkins wrote: On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 1:58 AM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: The documentation for memoir [memman] is forbidding, for koma [scrguien] much less so. Sadly this seems to be the modern tradition. Documentation, if it even

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

On Jul 14, 2011, at 11:35 AM, Richard Heck wrote: n 07/13/2011 08:58 PM, Eric Weir wrote: I'm intrigued by both memoir and koma. And maybe the standard classes are as good a place to start? The documentation for memoir [memman] is forbidding, for koma [scrguien] much less so. The

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

On Jul 14, 2011, at 11:49 AM, Richard Heck wrote: Reconfigure seems to have helped. I now have five koma classes. And many other new ones. However -- and I don't if this matters -- in the huge list revealed in tools tex information latex classes koma is still missing. These classes

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

On Jul 14, 2011, at 11:52 AM, Steve Litt wrote: On Thursday, July 14, 2011 11:42:09 AM Trevor Jenkins wrote: Sadly this seems to be the modern tradition. Documentation, if it even exists, is targeted to the advanced user or the class author themselves. Other users especially those trying

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 5:19 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: On Jul 14, 2011, at 11:52 AM, Steve Litt wrote: :-) That's why the documentation on Troubleshooters.Com is so important. It assumes few prerequisites. I do recall there being significant content at your site related

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

On Thursday, July 14, 2011 12:19:31 PM you wrote: On Jul 14, 2011, at 11:52 AM, Steve Litt wrote: On Thursday, July 14, 2011 11:42:09 AM Trevor Jenkins wrote: Sadly this seems to be the modern tradition. Documentation, if it even exists, is targeted to the advanced user or the class

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

On Thursday, July 14, 2011 12:23:36 PM Trevor Jenkins wrote: On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 5:19 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: On Jul 14, 2011, at 11:52 AM, Steve Litt wrote: :-) That's why the documentation on Troubleshooters.Com is so : important. It assumes few prerequisites.

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 5:42 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: Reconfigure seems to have helped. I now have five koma classes. And many other new ones. However -- and I don't if this matters -- in the huge list revealed in tools tex information latex classes koma is still missing.

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: I think I'm gonna go with koma, Trevor. For one, the documentation strikes me as excellent. Certainly compared to memoir. Another source of documentation may be the templates and examples folders shipped with LyX. They will

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

On Jul 14, 2011, at 2:36 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote: On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 5:42 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: Reconfigure seems to have helped. I now have five koma classes. And many other new ones. However -- and I don't if this matters -- in the huge list revealed in tools

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

On Jul 14, 2011, at 2:39 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote: Another source of documentation may be the templates and examples folders shipped with LyX. They will often contain templates for the various document classes available. Start with File New from template. Yes, I noticed that about the

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

I've found the LyX layouts folder. In /applications/lyx.app/resources/layouts. How do I make use of them? Through documents settings? If so, where exactly? Through documents settings document class I see a collection of document classes. Many are identified as unavailable. Through tools

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

Hello On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 3:18 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: I've found the LyX layouts folder. In /applications/lyx.app/resources/layouts. How do I make use of them? Through documents settings? If so, where exactly? Through documents settings document class I see a

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

Am 14.07.2011 um 15:18 schrieb Eric Weir: I've found the LyX layouts folder. In /applications/lyx.app/resources/layouts. Are you sure? It should be /Applications/LyX.app/Contents/Resources/layouts. How do I make use of them? Through documents settings? If so, where exactly? Through

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

On Jul 14, 2011, at 10:47 AM, Liviu Andronic wrote: Most of your questions should already be answered in either of these three documents in Help: Intro, Tutorial and User's Guide. (For example, User's Guide Section 3.1.2.2 explains why some classes would be tagged as 'unavailable'.) If you

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

On 07/13/2011 08:58 PM, Eric Weir wrote: The sort of thing you want to do would probably be quite easy with the memoir class, or perhaps with one of the koma-script classes (probably the article one, since it looks as if you do not need chapters here), all of which provide hooks for

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 1:58 AM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: The documentation for memoir [memman] is forbidding, for koma [scrguien] much less so. Sadly this seems to be the modern tradition. Documentation, if it even exists, is targeted to the advanced user or the class author

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

On Jul 14, 2011, at 10:59 AM, Stephan Witt wrote: Am 14.07.2011 um 15:18 schrieb Eric Weir: I've found the LyX layouts folder. In /applications/lyx.app/resources/layouts. Are you sure? It should be /Applications/LyX.app/Contents/Resources/layouts. Thanks, Stephan. I was careless.

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

On 07/14/2011 11:42 AM, Eric Weir wrote: Through documents settings document class I see a collection of document classes. Many are identified as unavailable. Through tools tex information latex classes I see a huge list of classes. Are these available for use in LyX? If not, how do I

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

On Thursday, July 14, 2011 11:42:09 AM Trevor Jenkins wrote: On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 1:58 AM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: The documentation for memoir [memman] is forbidding, for koma [scrguien] much less so. Sadly this seems to be the modern tradition. Documentation, if it

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

On Jul 14, 2011, at 11:42 AM, Trevor Jenkins wrote: On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 1:58 AM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: The documentation for memoir [memman] is forbidding, for koma [scrguien] much less so. Sadly this seems to be the modern tradition. Documentation, if it even

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

On Jul 14, 2011, at 11:35 AM, Richard Heck wrote: n 07/13/2011 08:58 PM, Eric Weir wrote: I'm intrigued by both memoir and koma. And maybe the standard classes are as good a place to start? The documentation for memoir [memman] is forbidding, for koma [scrguien] much less so. The

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

On Jul 14, 2011, at 11:49 AM, Richard Heck wrote: Reconfigure seems to have helped. I now have five koma classes. And many other new ones. However -- and I don't if this matters -- in the huge list revealed in tools tex information latex classes koma is still missing. These classes

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

On Jul 14, 2011, at 11:52 AM, Steve Litt wrote: On Thursday, July 14, 2011 11:42:09 AM Trevor Jenkins wrote: Sadly this seems to be the modern tradition. Documentation, if it even exists, is targeted to the advanced user or the class author themselves. Other users especially those trying

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 5:19 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: On Jul 14, 2011, at 11:52 AM, Steve Litt wrote: :-) That's why the documentation on Troubleshooters.Com is so important. It assumes few prerequisites. I do recall there being significant content at your site related

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

On Thursday, July 14, 2011 12:19:31 PM you wrote: On Jul 14, 2011, at 11:52 AM, Steve Litt wrote: On Thursday, July 14, 2011 11:42:09 AM Trevor Jenkins wrote: Sadly this seems to be the modern tradition. Documentation, if it even exists, is targeted to the advanced user or the class

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

On Thursday, July 14, 2011 12:23:36 PM Trevor Jenkins wrote: On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 5:19 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: On Jul 14, 2011, at 11:52 AM, Steve Litt wrote: :-) That's why the documentation on Troubleshooters.Com is so : important. It assumes few prerequisites.

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 5:42 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: Reconfigure seems to have helped. I now have five koma classes. And many other new ones. However -- and I don't if this matters -- in the huge list revealed in tools tex information latex classes koma is still missing.

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: I think I'm gonna go with koma, Trevor. For one, the documentation strikes me as excellent. Certainly compared to memoir. Another source of documentation may be the templates and examples folders shipped with LyX. They will

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

On Jul 14, 2011, at 2:36 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote: On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 5:42 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: Reconfigure seems to have helped. I now have five koma classes. And many other new ones. However -- and I don't if this matters -- in the huge list revealed in tools

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

On Jul 14, 2011, at 2:39 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote: Another source of documentation may be the templates and examples folders shipped with LyX. They will often contain templates for the various document classes available. Start with File New from template. Yes, I noticed that about the

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

I've found the LyX layouts folder. In /applications/lyx.app/resources/layouts. How do I make use of them? Through documents > settings? If so, where exactly? Through documents > settings > document class I see a collection of document classes. Many are identified as unavailable. Through tools

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

Hello On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 3:18 PM, Eric Weir wrote: > > I've found the LyX layouts folder. In > /applications/lyx.app/resources/layouts. How do I make use of them? Through > documents > settings? If so, where exactly? > > Through documents > settings > document class

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

Am 14.07.2011 um 15:18 schrieb Eric Weir: > > I've found the LyX layouts folder. In /applications/lyx.app/resources/layouts. Are you sure? It should be /Applications/LyX.app/Contents/Resources/layouts. > How do I make use of them? Through documents > settings? If so, where exactly? > >

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

On Jul 14, 2011, at 10:47 AM, Liviu Andronic wrote: > Most of your questions should already be answered in either of these > three documents in Help: Intro, Tutorial and User's Guide. (For > example, User's Guide > Section 3.1.2.2 explains why some classes > would be tagged as 'unavailable'.) If

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

On 07/13/2011 08:58 PM, Eric Weir wrote: > >> The sort of thing >> you want to do would probably be quite easy with the memoir class, or >> perhaps with one of the koma-script classes (probably the article one, >> since it looks as if you do not need chapters here), all of which >> provide "hooks"

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 1:58 AM, Eric Weir wrote: The documentation for memoir [memman] is forbidding, for koma [scrguien] > much less so. Sadly this seems to be the modern tradition. Documentation, if it even exists, is targeted to the advanced user or the class author

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

On Jul 14, 2011, at 10:59 AM, Stephan Witt wrote: > Am 14.07.2011 um 15:18 schrieb Eric Weir: > >> I've found the LyX layouts folder. In >> /applications/lyx.app/resources/layouts. > > Are you sure? It should be /Applications/LyX.app/Contents/Resources/layouts. Thanks, Stephan. I was

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

On 07/14/2011 11:42 AM, Eric Weir wrote: > >>> Through documents > settings > document class I see a collection of >>> document classes. Many are identified as unavailable. Through tools > tex >>> information > latex classes I see a huge list of classes. Are these >>> available for use in LyX?

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

On Thursday, July 14, 2011 11:42:09 AM Trevor Jenkins wrote: > On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 1:58 AM, Eric Weir > wrote: > > The documentation for memoir [memman] is forbidding, for koma > [scrguien] > > > much less so. > > Sadly this seems to be the modern tradition.

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

On Jul 14, 2011, at 11:42 AM, Trevor Jenkins wrote: > On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 1:58 AM, Eric Weir wrote: > > The documentation for memoir [memman] is forbidding, for koma [scrguien] much > less so. > > Sadly this seems to be the modern tradition. Documentation, if it

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

On Jul 14, 2011, at 11:35 AM, Richard Heck wrote: > n 07/13/2011 08:58 PM, Eric Weir wrote: >> >> >> I'm intrigued by both memoir and koma. And maybe the standard classes are as >> good a place to start? >> >> The documentation for memoir [memman] is forbidding, for koma [scrguien] >> much

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

On Jul 14, 2011, at 11:49 AM, Richard Heck wrote: >> Reconfigure seems to have helped. I now have five koma classes. And many >> other new ones. However -- and I don't if this matters -- in the huge list >> revealed in tools > tex information > latex classes koma is still missing. >> > >

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

On Jul 14, 2011, at 11:52 AM, Steve Litt wrote: > On Thursday, July 14, 2011 11:42:09 AM Trevor Jenkins wrote: >> >> Sadly this seems to be the modern tradition. Documentation, if it >> even exists, is targeted to the advanced user or the class author >> themselves. Other users especially those

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 5:19 PM, Eric Weir wrote: > > On Jul 14, 2011, at 11:52 AM, Steve Litt wrote: > > :-) That's why the documentation on Troubleshooters.Com is so >> important. It assumes few prerequisites. >> > > I do recall there being significant content at your

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

On Thursday, July 14, 2011 12:19:31 PM you wrote: > On Jul 14, 2011, at 11:52 AM, Steve Litt wrote: > > On Thursday, July 14, 2011 11:42:09 AM Trevor Jenkins wrote: > >> Sadly this seems to be the modern tradition. Documentation, if > >> it even exists, is targeted to the advanced user or the

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

On Thursday, July 14, 2011 12:23:36 PM Trevor Jenkins wrote: > On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 5:19 PM, Eric Weir wrote: > > On Jul 14, 2011, at 11:52 AM, Steve Litt wrote: > :-) That's why the documentation on Troubleshooters.Com is so > : > >> important. It assumes few

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 5:42 PM, Eric Weir wrote: > Reconfigure seems to have helped. I now have five koma classes. And many > other new ones. However -- and I don't if this matters -- in the huge list > revealed in tools > tex information > latex classes koma is still

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Eric Weir wrote: > I think I'm gonna go with koma, Trevor. For one, the documentation strikes > me as excellent. Certainly compared to memoir. > Another source of documentation may be the templates and examples folders shipped with LyX. They

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

On Jul 14, 2011, at 2:36 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote: > On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 5:42 PM, Eric Weir wrote: >> Reconfigure seems to have helped. I now have five koma classes. And many >> other new ones. However -- and I don't if this matters -- in the huge list >> revealed in

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

On Jul 14, 2011, at 2:39 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote: > Another source of documentation may be the templates and examples > folders shipped with LyX. They will often contain templates for the > various document classes available. Start with File > New from > template. Yes, I noticed that about the

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

On 07/13/2011 09:34 AM, Eric Weir wrote: I am conscious of the fact that this may be the kind of excessively broad question that makes it difficult for knowledgeable people to be helpful. Nevertheless, since I am to a large extent at a loss regarding the answer I will ask it: Where do I

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

I'm a Mac user too and make extensive use of both Scrivener and LyX/LaTeX. But they are no competitive products. LyX is at the end of the pre-press cycle; it's about presentation. Don't get me wrong its f***ing good presentation given that LaTeX is behind it but none the less it's primarily about

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

My ability to make documents look the way I want them to is limited. In my personal opinion, this is the weakness of LaTeX/LyX. LaTeX is great when you write for a medium with a defined formatting, e.g., a journal, and they give you a style file to use. Then you just fill out the contents.

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

On 13/07/11 16:38, Anders Host-Madsen wrote: My ability to make documents look the way I want them to is limited. In my personal opinion, this is the weakness of LaTeX/LyX. LaTeX is great when you write for a medium with a defined formatting, e.g., a journal, and they give you a style file to

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

On 07/13/2011 10:48 AM, Torquil Macdonald Sørensen wrote: On 13/07/11 16:38, Anders Host-Madsen wrote: My ability to make documents look the way I want them to is limited. In my personal opinion, this is the weakness of LaTeX/LyX. LaTeX is great when you write for a medium with a defined

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

On Jul 13, 2011, at 1:58 PM, Richard Heck wrote: On 07/13/2011 10:48 AM, Torquil Macdonald Sørensen wrote: On 13/07/11 16:38, Anders Host-Madsen wrote: My ability to make documents look the way I want them to is limited. In my personal opinion, this is the weakness of LaTeX/LyX. LaTeX is

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 7:58 PM, Richard Heck rgh...@comcast.net wrote: Word and its ilk have made people think they can do creative typesetting, when in fact what they tend to do is make a mess of things. I personally think it's a *good* thing that LyX does not make this easy. I agree. I

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 3:34 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: My writing is mostly letters, memos, short to medium length reports, and longer projects including proposals and articles. I always keep formatting to the simplest minimum possible. I would like to make the break and

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 4:19 PM, Trevor Jenkins bslwann...@gmail.com wrote: I'm a Mac user too and make extensive use of both Scrivener and LyX/LaTeX. But they are no competitive products. Soon they will be, we all hope. Rob has made some progress on his LyX-Outline project [1], which intends

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

On Jul 13, 2011, at 9:52 AM, Richard Heck wrote: On 07/13/2011 09:34 AM, Eric Weir wrote: Where do I start? Perhaps better, how do I go about creating a layout for a document type. This is an advanced matter Hadn't considered that, Richard. I assumed starting with simple

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

On Jul 13, 2011, at 10:19 AM, Trevor Jenkins wrote: I'm a Mac user too and make extensive use of both Scrivener and LyX/LaTeX. But they are no competitive products. LyX is at the end of the pre-press cycle; it's about presentation Thanks for the guidance, Trevor. I'm with you 100

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

On Jul 13, 2011, at 6:04 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote: Default LaTeX classes as a benchmark for a well typeset document is probably a good start; then you can sharpen some rough edges, here and there, often by using some other LaTeX packages or functionalities. Or you can leave things as they

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

On Jul 13, 2011, at 6:08 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote: To modify aspects of your documents you do not need to create new 'layouts'. You can take a class, create the backbone of your desired document (also by taking into account your personal idiosyncrasies, as far as LyX and LaTeX let you to),

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

On Jul 13, 2011, at 6:15 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote: Soon they will be, we all hope. Rob has made some progress on his LyX-Outline project [1], which intends to provide LyX with some of the features of Scrivener, including a corkboard and a fancier outline pane. At the moment the code can be

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

On 07/13/2011 09:34 AM, Eric Weir wrote: I am conscious of the fact that this may be the kind of excessively broad question that makes it difficult for knowledgeable people to be helpful. Nevertheless, since I am to a large extent at a loss regarding the answer I will ask it: Where do I

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

I'm a Mac user too and make extensive use of both Scrivener and LyX/LaTeX. But they are no competitive products. LyX is at the end of the pre-press cycle; it's about presentation. Don't get me wrong its f***ing good presentation given that LaTeX is behind it but none the less it's primarily about

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

My ability to make documents look the way I want them to is limited. In my personal opinion, this is the weakness of LaTeX/LyX. LaTeX is great when you write for a medium with a defined formatting, e.g., a journal, and they give you a style file to use. Then you just fill out the contents.

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

On 13/07/11 16:38, Anders Host-Madsen wrote: My ability to make documents look the way I want them to is limited. In my personal opinion, this is the weakness of LaTeX/LyX. LaTeX is great when you write for a medium with a defined formatting, e.g., a journal, and they give you a style file to

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

On 07/13/2011 10:48 AM, Torquil Macdonald Sørensen wrote: On 13/07/11 16:38, Anders Host-Madsen wrote: My ability to make documents look the way I want them to is limited. In my personal opinion, this is the weakness of LaTeX/LyX. LaTeX is great when you write for a medium with a defined

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

On Jul 13, 2011, at 1:58 PM, Richard Heck wrote: On 07/13/2011 10:48 AM, Torquil Macdonald Sørensen wrote: On 13/07/11 16:38, Anders Host-Madsen wrote: My ability to make documents look the way I want them to is limited. In my personal opinion, this is the weakness of LaTeX/LyX. LaTeX is

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 7:58 PM, Richard Heck rgh...@comcast.net wrote: Word and its ilk have made people think they can do creative typesetting, when in fact what they tend to do is make a mess of things. I personally think it's a *good* thing that LyX does not make this easy. I agree. I

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 3:34 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: My writing is mostly letters, memos, short to medium length reports, and longer projects including proposals and articles. I always keep formatting to the simplest minimum possible. I would like to make the break and

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 4:19 PM, Trevor Jenkins bslwann...@gmail.com wrote: I'm a Mac user too and make extensive use of both Scrivener and LyX/LaTeX. But they are no competitive products. Soon they will be, we all hope. Rob has made some progress on his LyX-Outline project [1], which intends

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

On Jul 13, 2011, at 9:52 AM, Richard Heck wrote: On 07/13/2011 09:34 AM, Eric Weir wrote: Where do I start? Perhaps better, how do I go about creating a layout for a document type. This is an advanced matter Hadn't considered that, Richard. I assumed starting with simple

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

On Jul 13, 2011, at 10:19 AM, Trevor Jenkins wrote: I'm a Mac user too and make extensive use of both Scrivener and LyX/LaTeX. But they are no competitive products. LyX is at the end of the pre-press cycle; it's about presentation Thanks for the guidance, Trevor. I'm with you 100

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

On Jul 13, 2011, at 6:04 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote: Default LaTeX classes as a benchmark for a well typeset document is probably a good start; then you can sharpen some rough edges, here and there, often by using some other LaTeX packages or functionalities. Or you can leave things as they

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

On Jul 13, 2011, at 6:08 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote: To modify aspects of your documents you do not need to create new 'layouts'. You can take a class, create the backbone of your desired document (also by taking into account your personal idiosyncrasies, as far as LyX and LaTeX let you to),

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

On Jul 13, 2011, at 6:15 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote: Soon they will be, we all hope. Rob has made some progress on his LyX-Outline project [1], which intends to provide LyX with some of the features of Scrivener, including a corkboard and a fancier outline pane. At the moment the code can be

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

On 07/13/2011 09:34 AM, Eric Weir wrote: > I am conscious of the fact that this may be the kind of excessively broad > question that makes it difficult for knowledgeable people to be helpful. > Nevertheless, since I am to a large extent at a loss regarding the answer I > will ask it: Where do I

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

I'm a Mac user too and make extensive use of both Scrivener and LyX/LaTeX. But they are no competitive products. LyX is at the end of the pre-press cycle; it's about presentation. Don't get me wrong its f***ing good presentation given that LaTeX is behind it but none the less it's primarily about

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

> My ability to make documents look the way I want them to is limited. In my personal opinion, this is the weakness of LaTeX/LyX. LaTeX is great when you write for a medium with a defined formatting, e.g., a journal, and they give you a style file to use. Then you just fill out the contents.

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