Re: whereabouts of chktex [Was Re: feature suggestion]
Kevin Pfeiffer wrote: But it is listed (though inactive) in the menu. So I should modify my previous post to say in a perfect world with a dozen full-time LyX programmers I would suggest that such things be simply a part of LyX (whether compiled in or as script in the library). Anything that supports LyX's goals of break[ing] the obsolete tradition of the 'typewriter paradigm' (i.e. count your spaces, find your errors yourself) and becoming an even better document preparation system should be considered (time and resources permitting, of course). Hmm, so LyX people should maintain special TeX distribution, ... right? Matej -- Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 Give your heartache to him. (1Pt 5,7; Mt 11:28-30)
Re: whereabouts of chktex [Was Re: feature suggestion]
Kevin Pfeiffer wrote: see, to some of us laypeople, used to page layout programs, word processors, etc., there is no distinction between the TeX package and the LyX package---well, maybe in the sense of front end / back end. I only know of TeX because of LyX (not entirely true, but for the argument's sake). And I know no more about TeX than LyX forces me to. :-) I am sorry, I really did not mean to put you down (I am more used to naive reactions from people using Windows :-) -- no offense intended). Of course, I do remember my own original questions, and I could just pray that you will not find them somewhere in archives of some conferences (fortunately, they were usually in Czech, so that could help). It could be interesting to make chktex part of tetex (foundation of most TeX distributions; it's email list is tetex@dbs.uni-hannover.de; also available as newsgroup gmane.comp.tex.tetex.general on gmane.org), but what I really meant is that you should send an email to maintainers of your distribution complaining to them about missing package. Tell them it is really small program, simple to package (.deb file -- equivalent of .rpm packages on Debian -- has 93K and that includes rather extensive documentation) and that users of LaTeX would be glad to have it. If they have at least small interest in their users' opinion, they should do it. And if not, you know something more about them :-). But, a short, practical suggestion: since it's already in the menu, perhaps it should also be listed in the LaTeX Configuration document that LyX generates (under Help menu) as an optional (TeX) package, along with a brief description of what it can do? Yes, this is a very good idea. Go to http://bugzilla.lyx.org and file a wish about it (so it is recorded for eternity and somebody could actually do something about that). Best, Matej -- Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 Of course I'm respectable. I'm old. Politicians, ugly buildings, and whores all get respectable if they last long enough. --John Huston in Chinatown.
Re: whereabouts of chktex [Was Re: feature suggestion]
Kevin Pfeiffer wrote: Not installed on my system (SuSE 9,3) Well, then you should complain to the maintainers of your distribution -- Debian has it :-). Perhaps this should be included with LyX (and since there is already a menu hook to it) -- or is it already (though not in my distro)? No, it shouldn't be certainly included in LyX. I do not think it is a good idea to fix broken distribution by bundling it all together with LyX (have you heard about do one thing, and do it perfectly principle?). Will you expect LyX maintainers to maintain it, so they have something to do in their plenty of spare time? Moreover, chktex is so simple program that anybody could make .rpm/.deb out of it. I did it myself (many years ago, when I was still with RedHat) as my first .rpm package and even though I knew next to nothing about packaging I did it in an hour or so. Best, Matej -- Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 Give your heartache to him. (1Pt 5,7; Mt 11:28-30)
Re: whereabouts of chktex [Was Re: feature suggestion]
Kevin Pfeiffer wrote: Try clicking on the very first entry returned by googling on chktex... http://baruch.ev-en.org/proj/chktex/ That would be much too easy. :-) I guess I assumed that it should be included in the usual packages or even in the LyX distribution. BTW, just one more thing -- is http://rpmfind.net still around? Matej -- Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 See, when the GOVERNMENT spends money, it creates jobs; whereas when the money is left in the hands of TAXPAYERS, God only knows what they do with it. Bake it into pies, probably. Anything to avoid creating jobs. -- Dave Barry
Re: whereabouts of chktex [Was Re: feature suggestion]
Angus Leeming wrote: Incidentally, Matej, which Debian flavour do you use? testing (soon to be stable, but I will probably keep with testing). I have a machine running Debian unstable at work and keeping it up to date is, not surprisingly, a continual battle. Unstable is really, well, unstable. With testing I am able to somehow work over dial-up (that somehow is that aptitude update downloads 3MB+ of data, and that sucks) with occasional taking notebook to some friendly Internet cafe or university, when I want to actually upgrade (that could be 100MB+ of packages, especially when KDE is upgraded, which was pretty often this year). If you have broadband at home, then I do not see any problem with Debian/testing whatsoever. It is just six months of experience but I have never experienced any hiccup with testing (and I know there were some with unstable, even though it was kept slightly back, because sarge was being frozen last year). It may get slightly wilder ride when unstable will be open wide again and we could get some broken packages into testing -- but then certainly sid will be more broken then it is now as well, so eck will be still much better choice IMHO. Indeed, it would be impractical to use at home. However, Debian stable is, well a little to stable :) I was able to work with Debian stable until the spring of this year with a lot of backports http://www.backports.org and KDE backports, but when I got a new computer, I gave up on that and have been using sarge since then, and it serves me pretty well. I quite like the Fedora twice yearly update cycle, but also like Debian's you don't need to reinstall the entire machine, just update the packages as and when they are improved. I do not know anything about Fedora (I gave up on RedHat when it was IIRC 7.0), but ability of Debian people to held whole distribution together so well as they do never stops to amaze me (and the fact, that I do not have to hunt packages all over the Internet anymore). And yes I am willing to pay price in getting slower updates than rest of the world -- when it is just slightly slower, not woody. Best, Matej -- Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread. -- Anatole France
Re: whereabouts of chktex
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: There is a similar utility named 'lacheck'. Is it bundled on more distributions? If it is we could think about modifying our code to understand this. Except that chktex seems to be maintained (the latest Debian package of it from 2005-01-01 indicates that there was New upstream version), but the latest update on lacheck seems to be from 1998. Matej -- Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 Really, I'm not out to destroy Microsoft. That will just be a completely unintentional side effect. -- Linus Torvalds New York Times, 28 Sept 03
Re: whereabouts of chktex [Was Re: feature suggestion]
Kevin Pfeiffer wrote: But it is listed (though inactive) in the menu. So I should modify my previous post to say in a perfect world with a dozen full-time LyX programmers I would suggest that such things be simply a part of LyX (whether compiled in or as script in the library). Anything that supports LyX's goals of break[ing] the obsolete tradition of the 'typewriter paradigm' (i.e. count your spaces, find your errors yourself) and becoming an even better document preparation system should be considered (time and resources permitting, of course). Hmm, so LyX people should maintain special TeX distribution, ... right? Matej -- Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 Give your heartache to him. (1Pt 5,7; Mt 11:28-30)
Re: whereabouts of chktex [Was Re: feature suggestion]
Kevin Pfeiffer wrote: see, to some of us laypeople, used to page layout programs, word processors, etc., there is no distinction between the TeX package and the LyX package---well, maybe in the sense of front end / back end. I only know of TeX because of LyX (not entirely true, but for the argument's sake). And I know no more about TeX than LyX forces me to. :-) I am sorry, I really did not mean to put you down (I am more used to naive reactions from people using Windows :-) -- no offense intended). Of course, I do remember my own original questions, and I could just pray that you will not find them somewhere in archives of some conferences (fortunately, they were usually in Czech, so that could help). It could be interesting to make chktex part of tetex (foundation of most TeX distributions; it's email list is tetex@dbs.uni-hannover.de; also available as newsgroup gmane.comp.tex.tetex.general on gmane.org), but what I really meant is that you should send an email to maintainers of your distribution complaining to them about missing package. Tell them it is really small program, simple to package (.deb file -- equivalent of .rpm packages on Debian -- has 93K and that includes rather extensive documentation) and that users of LaTeX would be glad to have it. If they have at least small interest in their users' opinion, they should do it. And if not, you know something more about them :-). But, a short, practical suggestion: since it's already in the menu, perhaps it should also be listed in the LaTeX Configuration document that LyX generates (under Help menu) as an optional (TeX) package, along with a brief description of what it can do? Yes, this is a very good idea. Go to http://bugzilla.lyx.org and file a wish about it (so it is recorded for eternity and somebody could actually do something about that). Best, Matej -- Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 Of course I'm respectable. I'm old. Politicians, ugly buildings, and whores all get respectable if they last long enough. --John Huston in Chinatown.
Re: whereabouts of chktex [Was Re: feature suggestion]
Kevin Pfeiffer wrote: >> > Not installed on my system (SuSE 9,3) Well, then you should complain to the maintainers of your distribution -- Debian has it :-). > Perhaps this should be included with LyX (and since there is already a > menu hook to it) -- or is it already (though not in my distro)? No, it shouldn't be certainly included in LyX. I do not think it is a good idea to fix broken distribution by bundling it all together with LyX (have you heard about "do one thing, and do it perfectly" principle?). Will you expect LyX maintainers to maintain it, so they have something to do in their plenty of spare time? Moreover, chktex is so simple program that anybody could make .rpm/.deb out of it. I did it myself (many years ago, when I was still with RedHat) as my first .rpm package and even though I knew next to nothing about packaging I did it in an hour or so. Best, Matej -- Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 Give your heartache to him. (1Pt 5,7; Mt 11:28-30)
Re: whereabouts of chktex [Was Re: feature suggestion]
Kevin Pfeiffer wrote: >> Try clicking on the very first entry returned by googling on >> "chktex"... http://baruch.ev-en.org/proj/chktex/ > > That would be much too easy. :-) I guess I assumed that it should be > included in the "usual packages" or even in the LyX distribution. BTW, just one more thing -- is http://rpmfind.net still around? Matej -- Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 See, when the GOVERNMENT spends money, it creates jobs; whereas when the money is left in the hands of TAXPAYERS, God only knows what they do with it. Bake it into pies, probably. Anything to avoid creating jobs. -- Dave Barry
Re: whereabouts of chktex [Was Re: feature suggestion]
Angus Leeming wrote: > Incidentally, Matej, which Debian flavour do you use? testing (soon to be stable, but I will probably keep with testing). > I have a machine > running Debian unstable at work and keeping it up to date is, not > surprisingly, a continual battle. Unstable is really, well, unstable. With testing I am able to somehow work over dial-up (that "somehow" is that aptitude update downloads 3MB+ of data, and that sucks) with occasional taking notebook to some friendly Internet cafe or university, when I want to actually upgrade (that could be 100MB+ of packages, especially when KDE is upgraded, which was pretty often this year). If you have broadband at home, then I do not see any problem with Debian/testing whatsoever. It is just six months of experience but I have never experienced any hiccup with testing (and I know there were some with unstable, even though it was kept slightly back, because sarge was being frozen last year). It may get slightly wilder ride when unstable will be open wide again and we could get some broken packages into testing -- but then certainly sid will be more broken then it is now as well, so eck will be still much better choice IMHO. > Indeed, it would be impractical to use > at home. However, Debian stable is, well a little to stable :) I was able to work with Debian stable until the spring of this year with a lot of backports <http://www.backports.org> and KDE backports, but when I got a new computer, I gave up on that and have been using sarge since then, and it serves me pretty well. > I quite like the Fedora twice yearly update cycle, but also like Debian's > "you don't need to reinstall the entire machine, just update the packages > as and when they are improved". I do not know anything about Fedora (I gave up on RedHat when it was IIRC 7.0), but ability of Debian people to held whole distribution together so well as they do never stops to amaze me (and the fact, that I do not have to hunt packages all over the Internet anymore). And yes I am willing to pay price in getting slower updates than rest of the world -- when it is just slightly slower, not woody. Best, Matej -- Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread. -- Anatole France
Re: whereabouts of chktex
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > There is a similar utility named 'lacheck'. Is it bundled on more > distributions? If it is we could think about modifying our code to > understand this. Except that chktex seems to be maintained (the latest Debian package of it from 2005-01-01 indicates that there was "New upstream version"), but the latest update on lacheck seems to be from 1998. Matej -- Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 Really, I'm not out to destroy Microsoft. That will just be a completely unintentional side effect. -- Linus Torvalds New York Times, 28 Sept 03
Re: whereabouts of chktex [Was Re: feature suggestion]
Kevin Pfeiffer wrote: > But it is listed (though inactive) in the menu. So I should modify my > previous post to say "in a perfect world with a dozen full-time LyX > programmers I would suggest that such things be simply a part of LyX > (whether compiled in or as script in the library). Anything that supports > LyX's goals of "break[ing] the obsolete tradition of the 'typewriter > paradigm'" (i.e. "count your spaces, find your errors yourself") and > becoming an even better document preparation system should be considered > (time and resources permitting, of course). Hmm, so LyX people should maintain special TeX distribution, ... right? Matej -- Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 Give your heartache to him. (1Pt 5,7; Mt 11:28-30)
Re: whereabouts of chktex [Was Re: feature suggestion]
Kevin Pfeiffer wrote: > see, to some of us laypeople, used to page layout programs, word > processors, etc., there is no distinction between the TeX package and the > LyX package---well, maybe in the sense of "front end / back end". I only > know of TeX because of LyX (not entirely true, but for the argument's > sake). And I know no more about TeX than LyX forces me to. :-) I am sorry, I really did not mean to put you down (I am more used to naive reactions from people using Windows :-) -- no offense intended). Of course, I do remember my own original questions, and I could just pray that you will not find them somewhere in archives of some conferences (fortunately, they were usually in Czech, so that could help). It could be interesting to make chktex part of tetex (foundation of most TeX distributions; it's email list is tetex@dbs.uni-hannover.de; also available as newsgroup gmane.comp.tex.tetex.general on gmane.org), but what I really meant is that you should send an email to maintainers of your distribution complaining to them about missing package. Tell them it is really small program, simple to package (.deb file -- equivalent of .rpm packages on Debian -- has 93K and that includes rather extensive documentation) and that users of LaTeX would be glad to have it. If they have at least small interest in their users' opinion, they should do it. And if not, you know something more about them :-). > But, a short, practical suggestion: since it's already in the menu, > perhaps it should also be listed in the LaTeX Configuration document that > LyX generates (under Help menu) as an optional (TeX) package, along with > a brief description of what it can do? Yes, this is a very good idea. Go to http://bugzilla.lyx.org and file a wish about it (so it is recorded for eternity and somebody could actually do something about that). Best, Matej -- Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 Of course I'm respectable. I'm old. Politicians, ugly buildings, and whores all get respectable if they last long enough. --John Huston in "Chinatown."
Any \csname/\expandafter magicians among us?
Hi,
I hate the way LyX creates URLs from Insert/URL. I don't want to use ERT,
but still I would like to make URLs behave better. Of course, I would like
to do something in the spirit of
\let\oldurl=\url
\renewcommand{\url}[1]{... do something with \oldurl and #1}
but LyX creates
description \url{URL}
so when I would like to create (for example, what exactly would new \url do
is not important):
\let\oldurl=\url
\newcommand{\dourl}[2]{\htmladdnormallink{#1}{#2}}
\renewcommand{\url}[1]{MIRACLE HAPPENS HERE%
\dourl{description}{#1}}
I would have to persuade \url to take one string (separated by spaces)
BEFORE the command. I think, that it should be possible to do it with some
magical use of \csname and \expandafter, but I am not enough TeX guru to
know how to make it fly. Can anybody help me?
Thanks a lot,
Matej
--
Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej
GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC
138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488
The politician attempts to remedy the evil by increasing the very
thing that caused the evil in the first place: legal plunder.
-- Frederick Bastiat
Any \csname/\expandafter magicians among us?
Hi,
I hate the way LyX creates URLs from Insert/URL. I don't want to use ERT,
but still I would like to make URLs behave better. Of course, I would like
to do something in the spirit of
\let\oldurl=\url
\renewcommand{\url}[1]{... do something with \oldurl and #1}
but LyX creates
description \url{URL}
so when I would like to create (for example, what exactly would new \url do
is not important):
\let\oldurl=\url
\newcommand{\dourl}[2]{\htmladdnormallink{#1}{#2}}
\renewcommand{\url}[1]{MIRACLE HAPPENS HERE%
\dourl{description}{#1}}
I would have to persuade \url to take one string (separated by spaces)
BEFORE the command. I think, that it should be possible to do it with some
magical use of \csname and \expandafter, but I am not enough TeX guru to
know how to make it fly. Can anybody help me?
Thanks a lot,
Matej
--
Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej
GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC
138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488
The politician attempts to remedy the evil by increasing the very
thing that caused the evil in the first place: legal plunder.
-- Frederick Bastiat
Any \csname/\expandafter magicians among us?
Hi,
I hate the way LyX creates URLs from Insert/URL. I don't want to use ERT,
but still I would like to make URLs behave better. Of course, I would like
to do something in the spirit of
\let\oldurl=\url
\renewcommand{\url}[1]{... do something with \oldurl and #1}
but LyX creates
description \url{URL}
so when I would like to create (for example, what exactly would new \url do
is not important):
\let\oldurl=\url
\newcommand{\dourl}[2]{\htmladdnormallink{#1}{#2}}
\renewcommand{\url}[1]{MIRACLE HAPPENS HERE%
\dourl{description}{#1}}
I would have to persuade \url to take one string (separated by spaces)
BEFORE the command. I think, that it should be possible to do it with some
magical use of \csname and \expandafter, but I am not enough TeX guru to
know how to make it fly. Can anybody help me?
Thanks a lot,
Matej
--
Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej
GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC
138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488
The politician attempts to remedy the evil by increasing the very
thing that caused the evil in the first place: legal plunder.
-- Frederick Bastiat
Re: lyx window settings
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i love lyx, writing novels with it - but i just have not found any function allowing me to have lyx for windows save the window size and position i give it each time i start it: currently i have to do that every time again. is that function available? if not, may the developers please put it on the wish list. It is crucial to know what platform are you on. If it is X Window (i.e., you are on Linux, FreeBSD, etc.), then size of the window, its placement, etc. are really not done by the application, but by a window manager. So you should learn how to persuade it to make window of the size and location you want (usually, the biggest WM offer in default configuration these settings in the menu, which shows up after clicking on the very top left corner of the window). The result is that window managers developed into much more sophisticated tools than the toys which are part of M$-Windows and Mac OS X. IIRC, -geometry parameter just makes application to politely ask WM to set her window accordingly. If you are on Windows, then the problem is that you have to persuade that one developer who already fights with making LyX working on Windows to make this work. Best, Matej -- Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 The function of the expert is not to be more right than other people, but to be wrong for more sophisticated reasons. -- Dr. David Butler, British psephologist
Re: lyx window settings
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i love lyx, writing novels with it - but i just have not found any function allowing me to have lyx for windows save the window size and position i give it each time i start it: currently i have to do that every time again. is that function available? if not, may the developers please put it on the wish list. It is crucial to know what platform are you on. If it is X Window (i.e., you are on Linux, FreeBSD, etc.), then size of the window, its placement, etc. are really not done by the application, but by a window manager. So you should learn how to persuade it to make window of the size and location you want (usually, the biggest WM offer in default configuration these settings in the menu, which shows up after clicking on the very top left corner of the window). The result is that window managers developed into much more sophisticated tools than the toys which are part of M$-Windows and Mac OS X. IIRC, -geometry parameter just makes application to politely ask WM to set her window accordingly. If you are on Windows, then the problem is that you have to persuade that one developer who already fights with making LyX working on Windows to make this work. Best, Matej -- Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 The function of the expert is not to be more right than other people, but to be wrong for more sophisticated reasons. -- Dr. David Butler, British psephologist
Re: lyx window settings
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > i love lyx, writing novels with it - but i just have not found any > function allowing me to have lyx for windows save the window size and > position i give it each time i start it: currently i have to do that every > time again. is that function available? if not, may the developers please > put it on the wish list. It is crucial to know what platform are you on. If it is X Window (i.e., you are on Linux, FreeBSD, etc.), then size of the window, its placement, etc. are really not done by the application, but by a window manager. So you should learn how to persuade it to make window of the size and location you want (usually, the biggest WM offer in default configuration these settings in the menu, which shows up after clicking on the very top left corner of the window). The result is that window managers developed into much more sophisticated tools than the toys which are part of M$-Windows and Mac OS X. IIRC, -geometry parameter just makes application to politely ask WM to set her window accordingly. If you are on Windows, then the problem is that you have to persuade that one developer who already fights with making LyX working on Windows to make this work. Best, Matej -- Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 The function of the expert is not to be more right than other people, but to be wrong for more sophisticated reasons. -- Dr. David Butler, British psephologist
Re: \{o}
Yong Luo scripsit:
How to type the special letter like \{o}?
As ERT, i.e., press
Ctrl-L\{o}Ctrl-I
Matj
--
Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej
GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC
138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488
He inherited some good instincts from his Quaker forebears, but
by diligent hard work, he overcame them.
-- James Reston
(about Richard Nixon)
Re: Metapost problems
Paul A. Rubin scripsit: Adding prologues := 1; solved the problem. One of the never-ending questions of my life (aside What is the goal of my life? and similar trivialities) is why this is actually not a default in MetaPost. Well, it isn't. Matj -- Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 MSDOS didn't get as bad as it is overnight -- it took over ten years of careful development. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mysterious error?
Stefano Franchi scripsit:
I found the source of the problems but not how to solve it. The trouble
is with the two BibTex references below, which both contain an
italicized word in the title plus a Greek letter. That combination
seems to choke BibTeX/LaTeX and, consequently, LyX:
I will show you how I found what is the problem. Just to see what's going
on, I have created a testing document just with questionable string, like
this:
\documentclass{article}
\begin{document}
Aristotle's Notion of Potentiality in {\emph {Metaphysics}}
\Theta
\end{document}
What is the result when I try to compile it?
/home/matej/test.tex|4 error| Missing $ inserted. $ \Theta
/home/matej/test.tex|5 error| Missing $ inserted. $ \end{document}
Chmm, sounds intrguiging -- $ is beginning/end of math-mode. So, what LaTeX
wants to tell you here is that \Theta is available only in the mathematical
mode (so LaTeX tried to insert $s around the sign). What happens when we
try to insert $ manually?
\documentclass{article}
\begin{document}
Aristotle's Notion of Potentiality in {\emph {Metaphysics}}
$\Theta$
\end{document}
And everything is perfect. Easy, isn't it?
Matej
--
Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej
GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC
138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488
The function of the expert is not to be more right than other
people, but to be wrong for more sophisticated reasons.
-- Dr. David Butler, British psephologist
Re: \{o}
Yong Luo scripsit:
How to type the special letter like \{o}?
As ERT, i.e., press
Ctrl-L\{o}Ctrl-I
Matj
--
Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej
GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC
138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488
He inherited some good instincts from his Quaker forebears, but
by diligent hard work, he overcame them.
-- James Reston
(about Richard Nixon)
Re: Metapost problems
Paul A. Rubin scripsit: Adding prologues := 1; solved the problem. One of the never-ending questions of my life (aside What is the goal of my life? and similar trivialities) is why this is actually not a default in MetaPost. Well, it isn't. Matj -- Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 MSDOS didn't get as bad as it is overnight -- it took over ten years of careful development. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mysterious error?
Stefano Franchi scripsit:
I found the source of the problems but not how to solve it. The trouble
is with the two BibTex references below, which both contain an
italicized word in the title plus a Greek letter. That combination
seems to choke BibTeX/LaTeX and, consequently, LyX:
I will show you how I found what is the problem. Just to see what's going
on, I have created a testing document just with questionable string, like
this:
\documentclass{article}
\begin{document}
Aristotle's Notion of Potentiality in {\emph {Metaphysics}}
\Theta
\end{document}
What is the result when I try to compile it?
/home/matej/test.tex|4 error| Missing $ inserted. $ \Theta
/home/matej/test.tex|5 error| Missing $ inserted. $ \end{document}
Chmm, sounds intrguiging -- $ is beginning/end of math-mode. So, what LaTeX
wants to tell you here is that \Theta is available only in the mathematical
mode (so LaTeX tried to insert $s around the sign). What happens when we
try to insert $ manually?
\documentclass{article}
\begin{document}
Aristotle's Notion of Potentiality in {\emph {Metaphysics}}
$\Theta$
\end{document}
And everything is perfect. Easy, isn't it?
Matej
--
Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej
GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC
138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488
The function of the expert is not to be more right than other
people, but to be wrong for more sophisticated reasons.
-- Dr. David Butler, British psephologist
Re: \"{o}
Yong Luo scripsit:
> How to type the special letter like \"{o}?
As ERT, i.e., press
\"{o}
Matěj
--
Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej
GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC
138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488
He inherited some good instincts from his Quaker forebears, but
by diligent hard work, he overcame them.
-- James Reston
(about Richard Nixon)
Re: Metapost problems
Paul A. Rubin scripsit: > Adding "prologues := 1;" solved the problem. One of the never-ending questions of my life (aside "What is the goal of my life?" and similar trivialities) is why this is actually not a default in MetaPost. Well, it isn't. Matěj -- Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 MSDOS didn't get as bad as it is overnight -- it took over ten years of careful development. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mysterious error?
Stefano Franchi scripsit:
> I found the source of the problems but not how to solve it. The trouble
> is with the two BibTex references below, which both contain an
> italicized word in the title plus a Greek letter. That combination
> seems to choke BibTeX/LaTeX and, consequently, LyX:
I will show you how I found what is the problem. Just to see what's going
on, I have created a testing document just with questionable string, like
this:
\documentclass{article}
\begin{document}
Aristotle's Notion of Potentiality in {\emph {Metaphysics}}
\Theta
\end{document}
What is the result when I try to compile it?
/home/matej/test.tex|4 error| Missing $ inserted. $ \Theta
/home/matej/test.tex|5 error| Missing $ inserted. $ \end{document}
Chmm, sounds intrguiging -- $ is beginning/end of math-mode. So, what LaTeX
wants to tell you here is that \Theta is available only in the mathematical
mode (so LaTeX tried to insert $s around the sign). What happens when we
try to insert $ manually?
\documentclass{article}
\begin{document}
Aristotle's Notion of Potentiality in {\emph {Metaphysics}}
$\Theta$
\end{document}
And everything is perfect. Easy, isn't it?
Matej
--
Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej
GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC
138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488
The function of the expert is not to be more right than other
people, but to be wrong for more sophisticated reasons.
-- Dr. David Butler, British psephologist
Re: ec fonts
[EMAIL PROTECTED] scripsit: I'm very happy with lyx, but I've been advised to install ec fonts to get even better results. Two questions : - is installing ec fonts worth the bother ? Are you sure, you haven't already installed them? They are usually part of the very basic installation of TeTeX. What kpsewhich ecrm.mf gives you? - where to find some detailed howto that could help a somewhat newbie regarding Latex admin ? http://faq.tug.org (or locally /usr/share/doc/texmf/help/faq/uktug-faq/index.html) is not detailed HOWTO, but it can certainly put some light on some of your questions (it seems to me, for example, that you actually do not want to talk about EC fonts, but rather about CM-Super fonts -- which are EC fonts in Type1, or maybe lmodern fonts). For administration of TeX on Unix you want to read /usr/share/doc/texmf/latex/general/guide.dvi.gz. And if you want full comprehensive guide, then go to the local library or buy books referenced in TeX FAQ referenced above (I prefer [Kopka, Daly], which has the 3rd edition published last year). Best, Matej Cepl -- Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 He has the attention span of a lightning bolt. -- Robert Redford
Re: Metapost problems
Paul A. Rubin scripsit:
Now comes the first problem. I run mpost (the MiKTeX Metapost
executable) against pic.mp, and it gives me pic.1, pic.mpx and pic.log.
To my untrained eye, pic.1 looks like a valid Postscript file, but if
I try to open it with Ghostview, I get the error /undefined in phvr8r.
Same thing happens if I run ps2ps against pic.1. Now phvr8r is an
Adobe Helvetica font, and I have phvr8r.pk in my local texmf tree and
phvr8r.tfm in my regular texmf tree, so the font is installed. Does
anyone know what the error means and what I might do about it?
1) Add to the top of the MP file this line (which persuades MetaPost to
create correct Encapsulated PostScript):
prologues := 1;
Then rerun metapost and try the result with gs (not kghostview, because with
gs you can see, which fonts are loaded, or what actually ghostscript tried
to load).
Err, sorry you are on Windows, so gs won't work. OK, use GSView and then
find somewhere (I forgot where) menu item Show messages or something like
that. Check, what's going on.
2) phvr*.{pk,tfm} are TeX auxiliary files making it possible to work with
Type1 (aka Postscript) fonts in TeX. However, you are interested in .pfa
(or .pfb) fonts. You probably don't have real Helvetica (unless you have
installed some big Adobe programs, or at least Adobe Type Manager),
However, GhostScript is distributed with free work-alikes of Helvetica
called Nimbus Sans (look for a file n019003l.pfb). So, if you have correct
PostScript (like when you followed the advice no. 1), you should just open
the file with GhostView and it should just work. If it doesn't, let us
know.
The second error (which may be related to the first) is that I can't
seem to get LyX/Beamer to believe that pic.1 is in an appropriate
graphic format. I followed the suggestion in the Beamer manual to
include \DeclareGraphicsRule{*}{mps}{*}{}, so that pic.1 should be
This command is of interest only for pdf{la}tex. If you are using plain
latex, then you should rename .1 file as .eps and it should be read by
dvips. Moreover, you don't have correct EPS (see above).
interpreted as a .mps file, but all that bought me was a message that
the graphics conversion script didn't know what to do with an MPS file.
yes, latex has no clue about MPS files, pdflatex does.
So I tried \DeclareGraphicsRule{*}{eps}{*}{}, my thinking being that
MPS is a special dialect (?) of EPS. That didn't work, either, nor did
Well, kind of -- Metapost's EPS is so simple, that somebody was able to
create TeX macros which convert it into internal codes of PDF, which could
be processed natively by pdftex.
Let us know about your progress,
Matej
--
Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej
GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC
138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488
There's nothing wrong with you that reincarnation won't cure.
-- Jack F. Leonard
Re: ec fonts
[EMAIL PROTECTED] scripsit: I'm very happy with lyx, but I've been advised to install ec fonts to get even better results. Two questions : - is installing ec fonts worth the bother ? Are you sure, you haven't already installed them? They are usually part of the very basic installation of TeTeX. What kpsewhich ecrm.mf gives you? - where to find some detailed howto that could help a somewhat newbie regarding Latex admin ? http://faq.tug.org (or locally /usr/share/doc/texmf/help/faq/uktug-faq/index.html) is not detailed HOWTO, but it can certainly put some light on some of your questions (it seems to me, for example, that you actually do not want to talk about EC fonts, but rather about CM-Super fonts -- which are EC fonts in Type1, or maybe lmodern fonts). For administration of TeX on Unix you want to read /usr/share/doc/texmf/latex/general/guide.dvi.gz. And if you want full comprehensive guide, then go to the local library or buy books referenced in TeX FAQ referenced above (I prefer [Kopka, Daly], which has the 3rd edition published last year). Best, Matej Cepl -- Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 He has the attention span of a lightning bolt. -- Robert Redford
Re: Metapost problems
Paul A. Rubin scripsit:
Now comes the first problem. I run mpost (the MiKTeX Metapost
executable) against pic.mp, and it gives me pic.1, pic.mpx and pic.log.
To my untrained eye, pic.1 looks like a valid Postscript file, but if
I try to open it with Ghostview, I get the error /undefined in phvr8r.
Same thing happens if I run ps2ps against pic.1. Now phvr8r is an
Adobe Helvetica font, and I have phvr8r.pk in my local texmf tree and
phvr8r.tfm in my regular texmf tree, so the font is installed. Does
anyone know what the error means and what I might do about it?
1) Add to the top of the MP file this line (which persuades MetaPost to
create correct Encapsulated PostScript):
prologues := 1;
Then rerun metapost and try the result with gs (not kghostview, because with
gs you can see, which fonts are loaded, or what actually ghostscript tried
to load).
Err, sorry you are on Windows, so gs won't work. OK, use GSView and then
find somewhere (I forgot where) menu item Show messages or something like
that. Check, what's going on.
2) phvr*.{pk,tfm} are TeX auxiliary files making it possible to work with
Type1 (aka Postscript) fonts in TeX. However, you are interested in .pfa
(or .pfb) fonts. You probably don't have real Helvetica (unless you have
installed some big Adobe programs, or at least Adobe Type Manager),
However, GhostScript is distributed with free work-alikes of Helvetica
called Nimbus Sans (look for a file n019003l.pfb). So, if you have correct
PostScript (like when you followed the advice no. 1), you should just open
the file with GhostView and it should just work. If it doesn't, let us
know.
The second error (which may be related to the first) is that I can't
seem to get LyX/Beamer to believe that pic.1 is in an appropriate
graphic format. I followed the suggestion in the Beamer manual to
include \DeclareGraphicsRule{*}{mps}{*}{}, so that pic.1 should be
This command is of interest only for pdf{la}tex. If you are using plain
latex, then you should rename .1 file as .eps and it should be read by
dvips. Moreover, you don't have correct EPS (see above).
interpreted as a .mps file, but all that bought me was a message that
the graphics conversion script didn't know what to do with an MPS file.
yes, latex has no clue about MPS files, pdflatex does.
So I tried \DeclareGraphicsRule{*}{eps}{*}{}, my thinking being that
MPS is a special dialect (?) of EPS. That didn't work, either, nor did
Well, kind of -- Metapost's EPS is so simple, that somebody was able to
create TeX macros which convert it into internal codes of PDF, which could
be processed natively by pdftex.
Let us know about your progress,
Matej
--
Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej
GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC
138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488
There's nothing wrong with you that reincarnation won't cure.
-- Jack F. Leonard
Re: ec fonts
[EMAIL PROTECTED] scripsit:
> I'm very happy with lyx, but I've been advised to install ec fonts to get
> even better results. Two questions :
> - is installing ec fonts worth the bother ?
Are you sure, you haven't already installed them? They are usually part of
the very basic installation of TeTeX. What
kpsewhich ecrm.mf
gives you?
> - where to find some detailed howto that could help a somewhat newbie
> regarding Latex admin ?
http://faq.tug.org (or
locally /usr/share/doc/texmf/help/faq/uktug-faq/index.html) is not
"detailed HOWTO", but it can certainly put some light on some of your
questions (it seems to me, for example, that you actually do not want to
talk about EC fonts, but rather about CM-Super fonts -- which are EC fonts
in Type1, or maybe lmodern fonts).
For administration of TeX on Unix you want to
read /usr/share/doc/texmf/latex/general/guide.dvi.gz.
And if you want full comprehensive guide, then go to the local library or
buy books referenced in TeX FAQ referenced above (I prefer [Kopka, Daly],
which has the 3rd edition published last year).
Best,
Matej Cepl
--
Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej
GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC
138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488
He has the attention span of a lightning bolt.
-- Robert Redford
Re: Metapost problems
Paul A. Rubin scripsit:
> Now comes the first problem. I run mpost (the MiKTeX Metapost
> executable) against pic.mp, and it gives me pic.1, pic.mpx and pic.log.
> To my untrained eye, pic.1 looks like a valid Postscript file, but if
> I try to open it with Ghostview, I get the error "/undefined in phvr8r".
> Same thing happens if I run ps2ps against pic.1. Now phvr8r is an
> Adobe Helvetica font, and I have phvr8r.pk in my local texmf tree and
> phvr8r.tfm in my regular texmf tree, so the font is installed. Does
> anyone know what the error means and what I might do about it?
1) Add to the top of the MP file this line (which persuades MetaPost to
create correct Encapsulated PostScript):
prologues := 1;
Then rerun metapost and try the result with gs (not kghostview, because with
gs you can see, which fonts are loaded, or what actually ghostscript tried
to load).
Err, sorry you are on Windows, so gs won't work. OK, use GSView and then
find somewhere (I forgot where) menu item "Show messages" or something like
that. Check, what's going on.
2) phvr*.{pk,tfm} are TeX auxiliary files making it possible to work with
Type1 (aka Postscript) fonts in TeX. However, you are interested in .pfa
(or .pfb) fonts. You probably don't have real Helvetica (unless you have
installed some big Adobe programs, or at least Adobe Type Manager),
However, GhostScript is distributed with free work-alikes of Helvetica
called Nimbus Sans (look for a file n019003l.pfb). So, if you have correct
PostScript (like when you followed the advice no. 1), you should just open
the file with GhostView and it should just work. If it doesn't, let us
know.
> The second error (which may be related to the first) is that I can't
> seem to get LyX/Beamer to believe that pic.1 is in an appropriate
> graphic format. I followed the suggestion in the Beamer manual to
> include \DeclareGraphicsRule{*}{mps}{*}{}, so that pic.1 should be
This command is of interest only for pdf{la}tex. If you are using plain
latex, then you should rename .1 file as .eps and it should be read by
dvips. Moreover, you don't have correct EPS (see above).
> interpreted as a .mps file, but all that bought me was a message that
> the graphics conversion script didn't know what to do with an MPS file.
yes, latex has no clue about MPS files, pdflatex does.
> So I tried \DeclareGraphicsRule{*}{eps}{*}{}, my thinking being that
> MPS is a special dialect (?) of EPS. That didn't work, either, nor did
Well, kind of -- Metapost's EPS is so simple, that somebody was able to
create TeX macros which convert it into internal codes of PDF, which could
be processed natively by pdftex.
Let us know about your progress,
Matej
--
Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej
GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC
138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488
There's nothing wrong with you that reincarnation won't cure.
-- Jack F. Leonard
Re: A LaTeX Query
Rich Shepard scripsit: I'm working my way through it, line-by-line, and writing explanatory comments. But, there are areas where I don't understand what it's doing, or why it's being done that way. In these situations I need a TeXpert to help me out. Suggestions for the appropriate forum are wanted. If you need real TeXpert, then reread all available documentation, google for answers, and when you are sure, that you won't get RTFM, go ask @ comp.text.tex -- the real TeXperts tend to hand there. Even higher entry level (and even higher level TeXperts) are on texhax (http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/texhax), but it has really low volume, and low level of response. For clueless muddlers, you don't have to do anything and ask here :-). Matej -- Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 understand, v.: To reach a point, in your investigation of some subject, at which you cease to examine what is really present, and operate on the basis of your own internal model instead.
Re: A LaTeX Query
Rich Shepard scripsit: I'm working my way through it, line-by-line, and writing explanatory comments. But, there are areas where I don't understand what it's doing, or why it's being done that way. In these situations I need a TeXpert to help me out. Suggestions for the appropriate forum are wanted. If you need real TeXpert, then reread all available documentation, google for answers, and when you are sure, that you won't get RTFM, go ask @ comp.text.tex -- the real TeXperts tend to hand there. Even higher entry level (and even higher level TeXperts) are on texhax (http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/texhax), but it has really low volume, and low level of response. For clueless muddlers, you don't have to do anything and ask here :-). Matej -- Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 understand, v.: To reach a point, in your investigation of some subject, at which you cease to examine what is really present, and operate on the basis of your own internal model instead.
Re: A LaTeX Query
Rich Shepard scripsit: >I'm working my way through it, line-by-line, and writing explanatory > comments. But, there are areas where I don't understand what it's doing, > or why it's being done that way. In these situations I need a TeXpert to > help me out. > >Suggestions for the appropriate forum are wanted. If you need real TeXpert, then reread all available documentation, google for answers, and when you are sure, that you won't get RTFM, go ask @ comp.text.tex -- the real TeXperts tend to hand there. Even higher entry level (and even higher level TeXperts) are on texhax (http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/texhax), but it has really low volume, and low level of response. For clueless muddlers, you don't have to do anything and ask here :-). Matej -- Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 understand, v.: To reach a point, in your investigation of some subject, at which you cease to examine what is really present, and operate on the basis of your own internal model instead.
Re: lyx in spanish?
Luis Rivera scripsit: OK. So it might be that LyX is using some encoding at file storage level and something else at display level. People sometimes run into this trouble in Win#@ too: they enter (unknowingly, of course) utf text in some version of W*rd, and they get white squares at another... I think that this will be only resolved when we switch to XML and (therefore?) UTF-8. I know that UTF-8 is not mandatory for XML, but it seems to me that switch to XML would be so big, that Unicodization would be trivial in comparison (and it would be really helpful if in future LyX would go towards KDEization -- do I understand it correctly that you have to be Unicodized in order to be KDE?). The fact that couple of people mentioned acronyms like DTD in the last couple of days seems to be hopeful (of course, I do not hope for anything earlier than 1.5, but still it is better than nothing). Matej -- Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 A bird in the hand makes it awfully hard to blow your nose.
Re: lyx in spanish?
Luis Rivera scripsit: OK. So it might be that LyX is using some encoding at file storage level and something else at display level. People sometimes run into this trouble in Win#@ too: they enter (unknowingly, of course) utf text in some version of W*rd, and they get white squares at another... I think that this will be only resolved when we switch to XML and (therefore?) UTF-8. I know that UTF-8 is not mandatory for XML, but it seems to me that switch to XML would be so big, that Unicodization would be trivial in comparison (and it would be really helpful if in future LyX would go towards KDEization -- do I understand it correctly that you have to be Unicodized in order to be KDE?). The fact that couple of people mentioned acronyms like DTD in the last couple of days seems to be hopeful (of course, I do not hope for anything earlier than 1.5, but still it is better than nothing). Matej -- Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 A bird in the hand makes it awfully hard to blow your nose.
Re: lyx in spanish?
Luis Rivera scripsit: > OK. So it might be that LyX is using some encoding at file storage level > and something else at display level. People sometimes run into this > trouble in Win#@ too: they enter (unknowingly, of course) utf text in some > version of W*rd, and they get white squares at another... I think that this will be only resolved when we switch to XML and (therefore?) UTF-8. I know that UTF-8 is not mandatory for XML, but it seems to me that switch to XML would be so big, that Unicodization would be trivial in comparison (and it would be really helpful if in future LyX would go towards KDEization -- do I understand it correctly that you have to be Unicodized in order to be KDE?). The fact that couple of people mentioned acronyms like DTD in the last couple of days seems to be hopeful (of course, I do not hope for anything earlier than 1.5, but still it is better than nothing). Matej -- Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 A bird in the hand makes it awfully hard to blow your nose.
Re: passing doc dir to converter script?
Kevin Pfeiffer scripsit: I'm using the following shell script as part of the latex-dvi LyX converter and I want to use a relative path to the needed index-list file (located in same dir as LyX document). Is there a way that LyX can pass its current document path to this script? What about INDEXLIST=$(dirname $1) ? Read dirname(1) for more. Matj -- Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 They never open their mouths without subtracting from the sum of human knowledge. -- Thomas Brackett Reed
Re: passing doc dir to converter script?
Kevin Pfeiffer scripsit: I'm using the following shell script as part of the latex-dvi LyX converter and I want to use a relative path to the needed index-list file (located in same dir as LyX document). Is there a way that LyX can pass its current document path to this script? What about INDEXLIST=$(dirname $1) ? Read dirname(1) for more. Matj -- Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 They never open their mouths without subtracting from the sum of human knowledge. -- Thomas Brackett Reed
Re: passing doc dir to converter script?
Kevin Pfeiffer scripsit: > I'm using the following shell script as part of the latex->dvi LyX > converter and I want to use a relative path to the needed "index-list" > file (located in same dir as LyX document). Is there a way that LyX can > pass its current document path to this script? What about INDEXLIST=$(dirname $1) ? Read dirname(1) for more. Matěj -- Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 They never open their mouths without subtracting from the sum of human knowledge. -- Thomas Brackett Reed
Re: How to use version control under Lyx 1.3.5 Windows
Wang Xiangqi scripsit: I am trying to search from the lists and webs, only what I can get is a docu. written by LARS GULLIK BJ?NNES. But it looks to discuss the issues under Linux. So it is difficult for me to get ideas from it. Any good suggestions from you about the version control under LyX 1.3.5 Windows? Try to search google using keywords rcs djgpp (that's for M$-DOS version) or maybe there is even rcs cygwin (for Windows version). Matj -- Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 - Do you think of yourself as a Christian artist? - I'm an artist who is a Christian. I'm not a Christian artist. -- Johny Cash in his last interview
Re: How to use version control under Lyx 1.3.5 Windows
Wang Xiangqi scripsit: I am trying to search from the lists and webs, only what I can get is a docu. written by LARS GULLIK BJ?NNES. But it looks to discuss the issues under Linux. So it is difficult for me to get ideas from it. Any good suggestions from you about the version control under LyX 1.3.5 Windows? Try to search google using keywords rcs djgpp (that's for M$-DOS version) or maybe there is even rcs cygwin (for Windows version). Matj -- Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 - Do you think of yourself as a Christian artist? - I'm an artist who is a Christian. I'm not a Christian artist. -- Johny Cash in his last interview
Re: How to use version control under Lyx 1.3.5 Windows
Wang Xiangqi scripsit: > I am trying to search from the lists and webs, only what I can get is a > docu. written by LARS GULLIK BJ?NNES. But it looks to discuss the issues > under Linux. So it is difficult for me to get ideas from it. Any good > suggestions from you about the version control under LyX 1.3.5 Windows? Try to search google using keywords "rcs djgpp" (that's for M$-DOS version) or maybe there is even "rcs cygwin" (for Windows version). Matěj -- Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 - Do you think of yourself as a Christian artist? - I'm an artist who is a Christian. I'm not a Christian artist. -- Johny Cash in his last interview
Re: PDF and fonts
Pupeno wrote:
Anyway, I'm getting this error:
LaTeX Error: File `lmodern.sty' not found.
\usepackage
{babel}^^M
*** (cannot \read from terminal in nonstop modes)
Do you know what am I missing ? What should I install ?
Whenever you get an error message like this, turn your browser to
http://www.ctan.org and search for it there. You will get this
http://www.ctan.org/tools/filesearch?action=/search/filename=lmodern .
If you are in hurry, than just instead of lmodern use ae.
\usepackage{ae,aecompl}
It should work out of the box, although it is not so beautiful.
Matj
--
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GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC
138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488
The main idea of the pope's asking for forgiveness was not to be
afraid of the truth. DO NOT BE AFRAID OF TRUTH! We have to have
faith in the God's governing power to be able not to be afraid.
-- On NPR The Connection from March 13, 2000
Re: PDF and fonts
Pupeno wrote:
Anyway, I'm getting this error:
LaTeX Error: File `lmodern.sty' not found.
\usepackage
{babel}^^M
*** (cannot \read from terminal in nonstop modes)
Do you know what am I missing ? What should I install ?
Whenever you get an error message like this, turn your browser to
http://www.ctan.org and search for it there. You will get this
http://www.ctan.org/tools/filesearch?action=/search/filename=lmodern .
If you are in hurry, than just instead of lmodern use ae.
\usepackage{ae,aecompl}
It should work out of the box, although it is not so beautiful.
Matj
--
Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej
GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC
138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488
The main idea of the pope's asking for forgiveness was not to be
afraid of the truth. DO NOT BE AFRAID OF TRUTH! We have to have
faith in the God's governing power to be able not to be afraid.
-- On NPR The Connection from March 13, 2000
Re: PDF and fonts
Pupeno wrote:
> Anyway, I'm getting this error:
>
> LaTeX Error: File `lmodern.sty' not found.
> \usepackage
> {babel}^^M
> *** (cannot \read from terminal in nonstop modes)
>
> Do you know what am I missing ? What should I install ?
Whenever you get an error message like this, turn your browser to
http://www.ctan.org and search for it there. You will get this
http://www.ctan.org/tools/filesearch?action=/search/=lmodern .
If you are in hurry, than just instead of lmodern use ae.
\usepackage{ae,aecompl}
It should work out of the box, although it is not so beautiful.
Matěj
--
Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej
GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC
138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488
The main idea of the pope's asking for forgiveness was not to be
afraid of the truth. DO NOT BE AFRAID OF TRUTH! We have to have
faith in the God's governing power to be able not to be afraid.
-- On NPR The Connection from March 13, 2000
Re: working with repeat references to titles of other works
Angus Leeming wrote: Try to imagine that LyX development can proceed only with LyX developers. If you want more then the best way to push your agenda is to roll up our sleeves and help. No!!! I am sorry, I didn't mean to be derogative to the great work you guys do (certainly, that there is not enough developers -- and no I cannot do C++ if it saves my life -- is certainly not _your_ fault). This flamewar was supposed to be about BibTeX-as-database v. BibTeX-as-extension-of-LaTeX :-). Matj -- Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 We are told that [St. Anthony] once fell into dejection, finding uninterrupted contemplation above his strength; but was taught to apply himself at intervals to manual labour by a vision of an angel who appeared platting mats of palm-tree leaves, then rising to pray, and after some time sitting down again to work; and who at length said to him, Do thus, and thou shalt be saved. -- Life of St. Anthony
Re: working with repeat references to titles of other works
Herbert Voss wrote:
nonsense,
chmmm -- that's a serious argument :-)
a BibTeX database is a base for LaTeX and big and complex databases
use the power of LaTeX in the data records, e.g. \url{...} for
web addresses together with hyperref. However, using \textit
maybe not good idea when it could be done by the bst file
(running custom bib)
And that is one of the reasons, why I am so happy to use natbib -- it
supports url field.
Matj
--
Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej
GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC
138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488
Why should I travel, when I'm already there?
-- Bostonian lady, when being asked why she never visited
other places than Boston
Re: working with repeat references to titles of other works
Angus Leeming wrote: Try to imagine that LyX development can proceed only with LyX developers. If you want more then the best way to push your agenda is to roll up our sleeves and help. No!!! I am sorry, I didn't mean to be derogative to the great work you guys do (certainly, that there is not enough developers -- and no I cannot do C++ if it saves my life -- is certainly not _your_ fault). This flamewar was supposed to be about BibTeX-as-database v. BibTeX-as-extension-of-LaTeX :-). Matj -- Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 We are told that [St. Anthony] once fell into dejection, finding uninterrupted contemplation above his strength; but was taught to apply himself at intervals to manual labour by a vision of an angel who appeared platting mats of palm-tree leaves, then rising to pray, and after some time sitting down again to work; and who at length said to him, Do thus, and thou shalt be saved. -- Life of St. Anthony
Re: working with repeat references to titles of other works
Herbert Voss wrote:
nonsense,
chmmm -- that's a serious argument :-)
a BibTeX database is a base for LaTeX and big and complex databases
use the power of LaTeX in the data records, e.g. \url{...} for
web addresses together with hyperref. However, using \textit
maybe not good idea when it could be done by the bst file
(running custom bib)
And that is one of the reasons, why I am so happy to use natbib -- it
supports url field.
Matj
--
Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej
GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC
138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488
Why should I travel, when I'm already there?
-- Bostonian lady, when being asked why she never visited
other places than Boston
Re: working with repeat references to titles of other works
Angus Leeming wrote: > Try to imagine that LyX development can proceed only with LyX developers. > If you want more then the best way to push your agenda is to roll up our > sleeves and help. No!!! I am sorry, I didn't mean to be derogative to the great work you guys do (certainly, that there is not enough developers -- and no I cannot do C++ if it saves my life -- is certainly not _your_ fault). This flamewar was supposed to be about BibTeX-as-database v. BibTeX-as-extension-of-LaTeX :-). Matěj -- Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 We are told that [St. Anthony] once fell into dejection, finding uninterrupted contemplation above his strength; but was taught to apply himself at intervals to manual labour by a vision of an angel who appeared platting mats of palm-tree leaves, then rising to pray, and after some time sitting down again to work; and who at length said to him, "Do thus, and thou shalt be saved." -- Life of St. Anthony
Re: working with repeat references to titles of other works
Herbert Voss wrote:
> nonsense,
chmmm -- that's a serious argument :-)
> a BibTeX database is a base for LaTeX and big and complex databases
> use the power of LaTeX in the data records, e.g. \url{...} for
> web addresses together with hyperref. However, using \textit
> maybe not good idea when it could be done by the bst file
> (running custom bib)
And that is one of the reasons, why I am so happy to use natbib -- it
supports url field.
Matěj
--
Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej
GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC
138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488
Why should I travel, when I'm already there?
-- Bostonian lady, when being asked why she never visited
other places than Boston
Re: [slightly OT response] to Re: Strange Bib Behaviour
Meri Williams wrote: Hi Todd -- thanks for the advice. I do already have versions saved which still work as intended, I just can't see any difference in the config! I don't particularly want to have to go back and retype anything, but if it's necessary I can do so. I was just hoping there was an easier solution ;-) It just seems really strange behaviour, because I didn't change any config at all -- I just pasted some text in from another document! If it is not confidential -- can you mail to me an output of rcsdiff -u against the last version which worked? Matj -- Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 When you come to the fork in the road, take it -- L.P. Berra
Re: working with repeat references to titles of other works
Angus Leeming wrote:
\textit{\cite{cicerone}}
Really? Why not do that in the BibTeX database?
@String{BAUHAUS = {\textit{Das Bauhaus}}}
Because I do not think it is wise to put presentation markup (or any
non-database markup for that matter) into BibTeX database.
Matj
--
Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej
GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC
138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488
The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as
the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to
steal bread.
-- Anatole France
Re: working with repeat references to titles of other works
Angus Leeming wrote: Shrug. Taste's differ. Change \textit to \magazine_style and define \magazine_style as you choose in the preamble of the document. No, that is not what I meant -- try to imagine, that I will finally get fed up with the slowness of LyX development and if (or when) OpenOffice.org will be useful for me, and then I would have to convert my 172k BibTeX database into MODS format. For that case I want to have in BibTeX just clean data and no LaTeX commands at all, if possible. Matj -- Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 Roses are red; Violets are blue. I'm schizophrenic, And so am I.
Re: [slightly OT response] to Re: Strange Bib Behaviour
Meri Williams wrote: Hi Todd -- thanks for the advice. I do already have versions saved which still work as intended, I just can't see any difference in the config! I don't particularly want to have to go back and retype anything, but if it's necessary I can do so. I was just hoping there was an easier solution ;-) It just seems really strange behaviour, because I didn't change any config at all -- I just pasted some text in from another document! If it is not confidential -- can you mail to me an output of rcsdiff -u against the last version which worked? Matj -- Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 When you come to the fork in the road, take it -- L.P. Berra
Re: working with repeat references to titles of other works
Angus Leeming wrote:
\textit{\cite{cicerone}}
Really? Why not do that in the BibTeX database?
@String{BAUHAUS = {\textit{Das Bauhaus}}}
Because I do not think it is wise to put presentation markup (or any
non-database markup for that matter) into BibTeX database.
Matj
--
Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej
GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC
138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488
The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as
the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to
steal bread.
-- Anatole France
Re: working with repeat references to titles of other works
Angus Leeming wrote: Shrug. Taste's differ. Change \textit to \magazine_style and define \magazine_style as you choose in the preamble of the document. No, that is not what I meant -- try to imagine, that I will finally get fed up with the slowness of LyX development and if (or when) OpenOffice.org will be useful for me, and then I would have to convert my 172k BibTeX database into MODS format. For that case I want to have in BibTeX just clean data and no LaTeX commands at all, if possible. Matj -- Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 Roses are red; Violets are blue. I'm schizophrenic, And so am I.
Re: [slightly OT response] to Re: Strange Bib Behaviour
Meri Williams wrote: > Hi Todd -- thanks for the advice. I do already have versions saved > which still work as intended, I just can't see any difference in the > config! I don't particularly want to have to go back and retype > anything, but if it's necessary I can do so. I was just hoping there > was an easier solution ;-) It just seems really strange behaviour, > because I didn't change any config at all -- I just pasted some text > in from another document! If it is not confidential -- can you mail to me an output of rcsdiff -u against the last version which worked? Matěj -- Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 When you come to the fork in the road, take it -- L.P. Berra
Re: working with repeat references to titles of other works
Angus Leeming wrote:
>> \textit{\cite{cicerone}}
>
> Really? Why not do that in the BibTeX database?
>
> @String{BAUHAUS = {\textit{Das Bauhaus}}}
Because I do not think it is wise to put presentation markup (or any
non-database markup for that matter) into BibTeX database.
Matěj
--
Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej
GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC
138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488
The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as
the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to
steal bread.
-- Anatole France
Re: working with repeat references to titles of other works
Angus Leeming wrote: > Shrug. Taste's differ. Change \textit to \magazine_style and define > \magazine_style as you choose in the preamble of the document. No, that is not what I meant -- try to imagine, that I will finally get fed up with the slowness of LyX development and if (or when) OpenOffice.org will be useful for me, and then I would have to convert my 172k BibTeX database into MODS format. For that case I want to have in BibTeX just clean data and no LaTeX commands at all, if possible. Matěj -- Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 Roses are red; Violets are blue. I'm schizophrenic, And so am I.
Re: Two bibliographies
Todd Denniston wrote: As I was also interested, in the multiple bib capability, I went to look at the link you sent. For some reason it returns no data at all (is CTAN having a problem?). I also did not find a bibmulti listed in the Alpha[1] Catalogue, nor through the CTAN search, even google finds no related hits. Is it like most good things I hear about ... taken off the market? :} I have no idea -- I don't use multple bibliographies myself. Matj -- Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 He inherited some good instincts from his Quaker forebears, but by diligent hard work, he overcame them. -- James Reston (about Richard Nixon)
Re: Two bibliographies
Todd Denniston wrote: As I was also interested, in the multiple bib capability, I went to look at the link you sent. For some reason it returns no data at all (is CTAN having a problem?). I also did not find a bibmulti listed in the Alpha[1] Catalogue, nor through the CTAN search, even google finds no related hits. Is it like most good things I hear about ... taken off the market? :} I have no idea -- I don't use multple bibliographies myself. Matj -- Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 He inherited some good instincts from his Quaker forebears, but by diligent hard work, he overcame them. -- James Reston (about Richard Nixon)
Re: Two bibliographies
Todd Denniston wrote: > As I was also interested, in the multiple bib capability, I went to look > at the link you sent. For some reason it returns no data at all (is CTAN > having a problem?). I also did not find a "bibmulti" listed in the > Alpha[1] Catalogue, nor through the CTAN search, even google finds no > related hits. Is it like most good things I hear about ... taken off the > market? :} I have no idea -- I don't use multíple bibliographies myself. Matěj -- Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 He inherited some good instincts from his Quaker forebears, but by diligent hard work, he overcame them. -- James Reston (about Richard Nixon)
Re: Two bibliographies
fuchst wrote: Does any one know whether this can be done and could point me in the right directions? bibtopic or something like that. Try Catalogue on CTAN (http://www.ctan.org) -- Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 It would be very good idea. -- Gandhi, when asked what he thinks about Western civilization?
Re: Two bibliographies
fuchst wrote: Does any one know whether this can be done and could point me in the right directions? http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/help/Catalogue/bytopic.html#bibmulti Matj -- Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 Opinions founded on prejudice are always sustained with the greatest violence. -- Hebrew Proverb
Re: why lyx when there's word?
Gerasimos Grammatikopoulos wrote: numbering. What it CAN'T do, is painless formatting changes - your reference database should be configured to reflect the desired format. Which actually made me to run out of it -- it sucks!!! The most important of all BibTeX/MODS qualities is that you have only bibliographic database for all your needs, even for your future needs (well maintained bibliographic database could be translated into any future data format -- MODS?). Anything else sucks! Now, that can be a horrible pain! I also admit I never stressed OO.org's ability with more than about 20 references. Just for both sides of the story, there is an ongoing effort to create a really good (MODS-based) Java bibliographic manager for OOo, which (if actually created) could make me think about switching to OOo after all these years. Just FYI, for what it is worth. Matj -- Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 There are lies, damned lies, and quotes from literary icons.
Re: Two bibliographies
fuchst wrote: Does any one know whether this can be done and could point me in the right directions? bibtopic or something like that. Try Catalogue on CTAN (http://www.ctan.org) -- Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 It would be very good idea. -- Gandhi, when asked what he thinks about Western civilization?
Re: Two bibliographies
fuchst wrote: Does any one know whether this can be done and could point me in the right directions? http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/help/Catalogue/bytopic.html#bibmulti Matj -- Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 Opinions founded on prejudice are always sustained with the greatest violence. -- Hebrew Proverb
Re: why lyx when there's word?
Gerasimos Grammatikopoulos wrote: numbering. What it CAN'T do, is painless formatting changes - your reference database should be configured to reflect the desired format. Which actually made me to run out of it -- it sucks!!! The most important of all BibTeX/MODS qualities is that you have only bibliographic database for all your needs, even for your future needs (well maintained bibliographic database could be translated into any future data format -- MODS?). Anything else sucks! Now, that can be a horrible pain! I also admit I never stressed OO.org's ability with more than about 20 references. Just for both sides of the story, there is an ongoing effort to create a really good (MODS-based) Java bibliographic manager for OOo, which (if actually created) could make me think about switching to OOo after all these years. Just FYI, for what it is worth. Matj -- Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 There are lies, damned lies, and quotes from literary icons.
Re: Two bibliographies
fuchst wrote: > Does any one know whether this can be done and could point me in the right > directions? bibtopic or something like that. Try Catalogue on CTAN (http://www.ctan.org) -- Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 It would be very good idea. -- Gandhi, when asked what he thinks about Western civilization?
Re: Two bibliographies
fuchst wrote: > Does any one know whether this can be done and could point me in the right > directions? http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/help/Catalogue/bytopic.html#bibmulti Matěj -- Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 Opinions founded on prejudice are always sustained with the greatest violence. -- Hebrew Proverb
Re: "why lyx when there's word?"
Gerasimos Grammatikopoulos wrote: > numbering. What it CAN'T do, is painless formatting changes - your > reference database should be configured to reflect the desired format. Which actually made me to run out of it -- it sucks!!! The most important of all BibTeX/MODS qualities is that you have only bibliographic database for all your needs, even for your future needs (well maintained bibliographic database could be translated into any future data format -- MODS?). Anything else sucks! > Now, that can be a horrible pain! I also admit I never stressed OO.org's > ability with more than about 20 references. Just for both sides of the story, there is an ongoing effort to create a really good (MODS-based) Java bibliographic manager for OOo, which (if actually created) could make me think about switching to OOo after all these years. Just FYI, for what it is worth. Matěj -- Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 There are lies, damned lies, and quotes from literary icons.
Re: Change layout of the build in bibliography manager (autor, year)
Janus Sandsgaard wrote: Thanks. But that require using a Bib-file instead of the build-in bibliography feature, right? I was trying to avoid that since I am not sure if I need it (I have never learn to feel comfortable with BibTeX, and I think I am waiting for JuraBib to me implemented in LyX). This is really the most lame excuse for not using BibTeX -- JuraBib has nothing to do with structure or content of your .bib database (and if it would, then it is bug and you should not use it). So, until JuraBib is _fully_ supported (of course, nothing stops you from using it right now with some ERT when necessary), you can use natbib, fill in your bibliography database (which is the most time consuming part of BibTeXing) and enjoy much better world than just with plain LaTeX's bibliography environment (what you call build-in bibliography). Just a thought, Matj -- Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 He inherited some good instincts from his Quaker forebears, but by diligent hard work, he overcame them. -- James Reston (about Richard Nixon)
Re: Adding a logo to all the pages of the document
Hannan Sadar wrote: I have a sily question, pdf file would take a size of a all page. I dont know if you could specify a pdf file size. Does the file logo.pdf need to be at the size of the logo? If so, how could it be done (What program transfer gif,jps or some othere format to pdf) ? epstopdf -- Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 ..every Man has a Property in his own Person. This no Body has any Right to but himself. The Labour of his Body, and the Work of his Hands, we may say, are properly his. The great and chief end therefore, of Mens uniting into Commonwealths, and putting themselves under Government, is the Preservation of their Property. -- John Locke, A Treatise Concerning Civil Government
Re: Change layout of the build in bibliography manager (autor, year)
Janus Sandsgaard wrote: Thanks. But that require using a Bib-file instead of the build-in bibliography feature, right? I was trying to avoid that since I am not sure if I need it (I have never learn to feel comfortable with BibTeX, and I think I am waiting for JuraBib to me implemented in LyX). This is really the most lame excuse for not using BibTeX -- JuraBib has nothing to do with structure or content of your .bib database (and if it would, then it is bug and you should not use it). So, until JuraBib is _fully_ supported (of course, nothing stops you from using it right now with some ERT when necessary), you can use natbib, fill in your bibliography database (which is the most time consuming part of BibTeXing) and enjoy much better world than just with plain LaTeX's bibliography environment (what you call build-in bibliography). Just a thought, Matj -- Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 He inherited some good instincts from his Quaker forebears, but by diligent hard work, he overcame them. -- James Reston (about Richard Nixon)
Re: Adding a logo to all the pages of the document
Hannan Sadar wrote: I have a sily question, pdf file would take a size of a all page. I dont know if you could specify a pdf file size. Does the file logo.pdf need to be at the size of the logo? If so, how could it be done (What program transfer gif,jps or some othere format to pdf) ? epstopdf -- Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 ..every Man has a Property in his own Person. This no Body has any Right to but himself. The Labour of his Body, and the Work of his Hands, we may say, are properly his. The great and chief end therefore, of Mens uniting into Commonwealths, and putting themselves under Government, is the Preservation of their Property. -- John Locke, A Treatise Concerning Civil Government
Re: Change layout of the build in bibliography manager (autor, year)
Janus Sandsgaard wrote:
> Thanks. But that require using a Bib-file instead of the build-in
> bibliography feature, right? I was trying to avoid that since I am not
> sure if I need it (I have never learn to feel comfortable with BibTeX, and
> I think I am waiting for JuraBib to me implemented in LyX).
This is really the most lame excuse for not using BibTeX -- JuraBib has
nothing to do with structure or content of your .bib database (and if it
would, then it is bug and you should not use it). So, until JuraBib is
_fully_ supported (of course, nothing stops you from using it right now
with some ERT when necessary), you can use natbib, fill in your
bibliography database (which is the most time consuming part of BibTeXing)
and enjoy much better world than just with plain LaTeX's bibliography
environment (what you call "build-in" bibliography).
Just a thought,
Matěj
--
Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej
GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC
138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488
He inherited some good instincts from his Quaker forebears, but
by diligent hard work, he overcame them.
-- James Reston
(about Richard Nixon)
Re: Adding a logo to all the pages of the document
Hannan Sadar wrote: > I have a sily question, pdf file would take a size of a all page. I > dont know if you could specify a pdf file size. Does the file logo.pdf > need to be at the size of the logo? If so, how could it be done (What > program transfer gif,jps or some othere format to pdf) ? epstopdf -- Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 ..every Man has a Property in his own Person. This no Body has any Right to but himself. The Labour of his Body, and the Work of his Hands, we may say, are properly his. The great and chief end therefore, of Mens uniting into Commonwealths, and putting themselves under Government, is the Preservation of their Property. -- John Locke, "A Treatise Concerning Civil Government"
Re: why lyx when there's word?
Steve Litt wrote: By the way, I finally just gave up on the underlining. By the way, did you take a look at package soul? matj -- Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread. -- Anatole France
Re: why lyx when there's word?
Steve Litt wrote: By the way, I finally just gave up on the underlining. By the way, did you take a look at package soul? matj -- Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread. -- Anatole France
Re: "why lyx when there's word?"
Steve Litt wrote: > By the way, I finally just gave up on the underlining. By the way, did you take a look at package soul? matěj -- Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread. -- Anatole France
Re: Custom 1st Page ?
Kris Kaido wrote:
Hi,
I'm using the 'report' document type to write classic documentation
for some project at work, bu I'd like to completely custom the first
page (logo, placement, etc.) which is for the moment with a black on
white text in the center ...
I can't find anything related to this on the web, is there somebody
who could help me on this ? Do you know an interesting website
discussing this and other tricks ?
Do I have to get deeply into pure LaTeX documentation for this ?
Yes -- get your hand on
@book{kopka:daly:1997,
Publisher = {Addison-Wesley},
Author = {Kopka, H., Daly, P.},
Title = {A Guide to \LaTeX2e{}},
Year = 2003,
Edition = {fourth}
}
or
http://www.informit.com/title/0321173856?aid=c9e80f0c-fab1-42b1-a79e-79453cba4ad1
Matj
--
Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej
GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC
138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488
But if we find we have left our bones to bleach in these desert
sands for nothing, beware the fury of the legions...
-- Centurion in a letter home from North Africa
3rd Century
Re: Change layout of the build in bibliography manager (autor, year)
Janus Sandsgaard wrote: I m writing a thesis in LyX, but have a problem with bibliography: I would like to use the build reference manager in LyX (instead of relying on BibTeX), but I prefer references in the format of (author, year) instead of [autohor, year] as the build in bibliography features does by default. Is there a way to change this? put round in Layout/Document/Layout/options (without quotes), and then switch on NatBiB in Layout/Document/Bibliography/Use Natbib. Is it what you want? Matj -- Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 Really, I'm not out to destroy Microsoft. That will just be a completely unintentional side effect. -- Linus Torvalds New York Times, 28 Sept 03
Re: Error Resulting file is empty
Geoffrey Lloyd wrote: Not sure if this is any help but i find i get this problem if i try to produce output with Acrobat Reader open. There is a long standing bug in all versions of Adobe Reader, that it opens file for writing, so no other program can write to it. Enters LyX, where angry shouts of pdflatex or ps2pdf are lost somewhere, and you get a nightmare. If you need to work with PDF files a lot, I would strongly suggest to try kghostview/gv or gsview (if you are on Windows) -- these open file just for reading, so other programs can write to it, and they are smart enough to refresh display whenever they get focus. matj -- Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 Always make new mistakes -- Esther Dyson
Re: Custom 1st Page ?
Kris Kaido wrote:
Hi,
I'm using the 'report' document type to write classic documentation
for some project at work, bu I'd like to completely custom the first
page (logo, placement, etc.) which is for the moment with a black on
white text in the center ...
I can't find anything related to this on the web, is there somebody
who could help me on this ? Do you know an interesting website
discussing this and other tricks ?
Do I have to get deeply into pure LaTeX documentation for this ?
Yes -- get your hand on
@book{kopka:daly:1997,
Publisher = {Addison-Wesley},
Author = {Kopka, H., Daly, P.},
Title = {A Guide to \LaTeX2e{}},
Year = 2003,
Edition = {fourth}
}
or
http://www.informit.com/title/0321173856?aid=c9e80f0c-fab1-42b1-a79e-79453cba4ad1
Matj
--
Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej
GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC
138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488
But if we find we have left our bones to bleach in these desert
sands for nothing, beware the fury of the legions...
-- Centurion in a letter home from North Africa
3rd Century
Re: Change layout of the build in bibliography manager (autor, year)
Janus Sandsgaard wrote: I m writing a thesis in LyX, but have a problem with bibliography: I would like to use the build reference manager in LyX (instead of relying on BibTeX), but I prefer references in the format of (author, year) instead of [autohor, year] as the build in bibliography features does by default. Is there a way to change this? put round in Layout/Document/Layout/options (without quotes), and then switch on NatBiB in Layout/Document/Bibliography/Use Natbib. Is it what you want? Matj -- Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 Really, I'm not out to destroy Microsoft. That will just be a completely unintentional side effect. -- Linus Torvalds New York Times, 28 Sept 03
Re: Error Resulting file is empty
Geoffrey Lloyd wrote: Not sure if this is any help but i find i get this problem if i try to produce output with Acrobat Reader open. There is a long standing bug in all versions of Adobe Reader, that it opens file for writing, so no other program can write to it. Enters LyX, where angry shouts of pdflatex or ps2pdf are lost somewhere, and you get a nightmare. If you need to work with PDF files a lot, I would strongly suggest to try kghostview/gv or gsview (if you are on Windows) -- these open file just for reading, so other programs can write to it, and they are smart enough to refresh display whenever they get focus. matj -- Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 Always make new mistakes -- Esther Dyson
Re: Custom 1st Page ?
Kris Kaido wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm using the 'report' document type to write classic documentation
> for some project at work, bu I'd like to completely custom the first
> page (logo, placement, etc.) which is for the moment with a black on
> white text in the center ...
> I can't find anything related to this on the web, is there somebody
> who could help me on this ? Do you know an interesting website
> discussing this and other tricks ?
> Do I have to get deeply into pure LaTeX documentation for this ?
Yes -- get your hand on
@book{kopka:daly:1997,
Publisher = {Addison-Wesley},
Author = {Kopka, H., Daly, P.},
Title = {A Guide to \LaTeX2e{}},
Year = 2003,
Edition = {fourth}
}
or
http://www.informit.com/title/0321173856?aid=c9e80f0c-fab1-42b1-a79e-79453cba4ad1
Matěj
--
Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej
GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC
138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488
But if we find we have left our bones to bleach in these desert
sands for nothing, beware the fury of the legions...
-- Centurion in a letter home from North Africa
3rd Century
Re: Change layout of the build in bibliography manager (autor, year)
Janus Sandsgaard wrote: > I m writing a thesis in LyX, but have a problem with bibliography: I would > like to use the build reference manager in LyX (instead of relying on > BibTeX), but I prefer references in the format of (author, year) instead > of > [autohor, year] as the build in bibliography features does by default. Is > there a way to change this? put "round" in Layout/Document/Layout/options (without quotes), and then switch on NatBiB in Layout/Document/Bibliography/Use Natbib. Is it what you want? Matěj -- Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 Really, I'm not out to destroy Microsoft. That will just be a completely unintentional side effect. -- Linus Torvalds New York Times, 28 Sept 03
Re: Error "Resulting file is empty"
Geoffrey Lloyd wrote: > Not sure if this is any help but i find i get this problem if i try to > produce output with Acrobat Reader open. There is a long standing bug in all versions of Adobe Reader, that it opens file for writing, so no other program can write to it. Enters LyX, where angry shouts of pdflatex or ps2pdf are lost somewhere, and you get a nightmare. If you need to work with PDF files a lot, I would strongly suggest to try kghostview/gv or gsview (if you are on Windows) -- these open file just for reading, so other programs can write to it, and they are smart enough to refresh display whenever they get focus. matěj -- Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 Always make new mistakes -- Esther Dyson
Re: How do you make a bibliography?
Steve Litt wrote:
What is a site key, and what should I put in there? A number? A letter? A
cite ???
Actually, there is actually a semi-standard (not widely used though -- but I
like it), which is in $TEXMF/doc/bibtex/base/bibshare.
Should the author be Lastname, Firstname MiddleInitial?
Doesn't have to ($TEXMF/doc/bibtex/base/btxdoc.*), but it seems to be the
most robust if you want to export to non-BibTeX databases.
Why is there no provision to state a page number or chapter number?
page and chapter record.
If it's a website, what reference type do I use. tkbibtex has all sorts of
reference types, but Website isn't one of them?
When referencing a website, do I put its URL in the URL field?
natbib supports record url, so for example I have this in my dbase:
@misc{abreu:ESR-2001,
author = {Dilip Abreu and Rajiv Sethi},
title = {Evolutionary Stability in a Reputational Model of
Bargaining},
institution = {Princeton University and Barnard College, Columbia
University},
url = {http://ssrn.com/abstract=260652},
}
What are CROSSREF, CODE, ANNOTE and ABSTRACT for, and do I need to use
those just to give credit to the original source of the material?
see $TEXMF/doc/bibtex/base/btxdoc.*
@incollection{coase:PSC-1960,
author = {Ronald H. Coase},
title = {The Problem of Social Cost},
pages = {95--156},
note = {First published in \emph{Journal of Law and Economics}
3:1-44.},
crossref = {coase:FML-1998},
}
@book{coase:FML-1998,
publisher = pub-ucp,
year = {1998},
author = {Ronald H. Coase},
address = addr-chi,
booktitle = {The Firm, the Market, and the Law},
}
Sometimes I reference a whole book, and sometimes I reference a tiny piece
of text out of the book (within the bounds of fair use). How do these
differ as far as the bibiliaography?
see @incollection.
Matj
--
Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej
GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC
138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488
As a rule of thumb, the more qualifiers there are before the name
of a country, the more corrupt the rulers. A country called The
Socialist People's Democratic Republic of X is probably the last
place in the world you'd want to live.
-- Paul Graham discussing (not only) Nigerian spam
(http://www.paulgraham.com/spam.html)
Re: Sections
Peter Pieczora wrote: I get corrupted output ( exporting it to latex, I can see Underfull \hbox (badness 1590) in paragraph error messages). Underfull \hbox is a warning not error and it can be silently ignored in most of the cases. Matj -- Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 Q: Is vi an easy editor to learn, is it intuitive? A: Yes, some of us think so. But most people think that we are crazy. -- vi FAQ
Re: How do you make a bibliography?
Steve Litt wrote:
What is a site key, and what should I put in there? A number? A letter? A
cite ???
Actually, there is actually a semi-standard (not widely used though -- but I
like it), which is in $TEXMF/doc/bibtex/base/bibshare.
Should the author be Lastname, Firstname MiddleInitial?
Doesn't have to ($TEXMF/doc/bibtex/base/btxdoc.*), but it seems to be the
most robust if you want to export to non-BibTeX databases.
Why is there no provision to state a page number or chapter number?
page and chapter record.
If it's a website, what reference type do I use. tkbibtex has all sorts of
reference types, but Website isn't one of them?
When referencing a website, do I put its URL in the URL field?
natbib supports record url, so for example I have this in my dbase:
@misc{abreu:ESR-2001,
author = {Dilip Abreu and Rajiv Sethi},
title = {Evolutionary Stability in a Reputational Model of
Bargaining},
institution = {Princeton University and Barnard College, Columbia
University},
url = {http://ssrn.com/abstract=260652},
}
What are CROSSREF, CODE, ANNOTE and ABSTRACT for, and do I need to use
those just to give credit to the original source of the material?
see $TEXMF/doc/bibtex/base/btxdoc.*
@incollection{coase:PSC-1960,
author = {Ronald H. Coase},
title = {The Problem of Social Cost},
pages = {95--156},
note = {First published in \emph{Journal of Law and Economics}
3:1-44.},
crossref = {coase:FML-1998},
}
@book{coase:FML-1998,
publisher = pub-ucp,
year = {1998},
author = {Ronald H. Coase},
address = addr-chi,
booktitle = {The Firm, the Market, and the Law},
}
Sometimes I reference a whole book, and sometimes I reference a tiny piece
of text out of the book (within the bounds of fair use). How do these
differ as far as the bibiliaography?
see @incollection.
Matj
--
Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej
GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC
138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488
As a rule of thumb, the more qualifiers there are before the name
of a country, the more corrupt the rulers. A country called The
Socialist People's Democratic Republic of X is probably the last
place in the world you'd want to live.
-- Paul Graham discussing (not only) Nigerian spam
(http://www.paulgraham.com/spam.html)
Re: Sections
Peter Pieczora wrote: I get corrupted output ( exporting it to latex, I can see Underfull \hbox (badness 1590) in paragraph error messages). Underfull \hbox is a warning not error and it can be silently ignored in most of the cases. Matj -- Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 Q: Is vi an easy editor to learn, is it intuitive? A: Yes, some of us think so. But most people think that we are crazy. -- vi FAQ
Re: How do you make a bibliography?
Steve Litt wrote:
> What is a site key, and what should I put in there? A number? A letter? A
cite ???
Actually, there is actually a semi-standard (not widely used though -- but I
like it), which is in $TEXMF/doc/bibtex/base/bibshare.
> Should the author be Lastname, Firstname MiddleInitial?
Doesn't have to ($TEXMF/doc/bibtex/base/btxdoc.*), but it seems to be the
most robust if you want to export to non-BibTeX databases.
> Why is there no provision to state a page number or chapter number?
page and chapter record.
> If it's a website, what reference type do I use. tkbibtex has all sorts of
> reference types, but "Website" isn't one of them?
>
> When referencing a website, do I put its URL in the URL field?
natbib supports record url, so for example I have this in my dbase:
@misc{abreu:ESR-2001,
author = {Dilip Abreu and Rajiv Sethi},
title = {Evolutionary Stability in a Reputational Model of
Bargaining},
institution = {Princeton University and Barnard College, Columbia
University},
url = {http://ssrn.com/abstract=260652},
}
> What are CROSSREF, CODE, ANNOTE and ABSTRACT for, and do I need to use
> those just to give credit to the original source of the material?
see $TEXMF/doc/bibtex/base/btxdoc.*
@incollection{coase:PSC-1960,
author = {Ronald H. Coase},
title = {The Problem of Social Cost},
pages = {95--156},
note = {First published in \emph{Journal of Law and Economics}
3:1-44.},
crossref = {coase:FML-1998},
}
@book{coase:FML-1998,
publisher = pub-ucp,
year = {1998},
author = {Ronald H. Coase},
address = addr-chi,
booktitle = {The Firm, the Market, and the Law},
}
> Sometimes I reference a whole book, and sometimes I reference a tiny piece
> of text out of the book (within the bounds of fair use). How do these
> differ as far as the bibiliaography?
see @incollection.
Matěj
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