Re: Footnotes in titles
Enrico Forestieri lyx.org> writes: > > Try the following line in the preamble: > > \def\ makefnmark{\hbox{\ textsuperscript{\small\ thefnmark}}} > Thanks for the suggestion, but when I put that command in the preamble all of the footnote marks become much bigger than they should be. Sebastien.
Re: Footnotes in titles
Sebastien writes: > Thanks for your remarks. I'll look into the latex commands to tweak > this and see if there is anything possible. The solution > suggested by Stefano provides a good starting point. The documentation > on this seems slim, though, despite it being what would appear > to be a fairly common occurrence (footnotes in titles). Try the following line in the preamble: \def\@makefnmark{\hbox{\@textsuperscript{\small\@thefnmark}}} -- Enrico
Re: Footnotes in titles
> Of course, the documentation is there to show what is possible with > footmisc, even if it is not recommended. There are other footnote > packages on CTAN, you could try whether any of them supports the style > you want to achieve. With a *minimal* LaTeX example that gives the > desired output, the LyX gurus on this list will certainly help you > implementing this in LyX. > > Günter > Thanks for your remarks. I'll look into the latex commands to tweak this and see if there is anything possible. The solution suggested by Stefano provides a good starting point. The documentation on this seems slim, though, despite it being what would appear to be a fairly common occurrence (footnotes in titles). Sebastien
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Stefano, Thanks a lot for your help. That's great. It's not perfect, but it does work, and is good enough to get by for the moment. Sebastien
Re: Footnotes in titles
On 2013-10-29, Sebastien wrote: >> This is a rather uncommon (but not unreasonable) request. I am quite sure >> there is a way, at least with ERT. >> If I were you, I would try to get this working in LaTeX first, asking at the >> comp.text.tex usenet list. Then I would try to get LyX to generate the >> required LaTeX code. > Thanks for that. I did try fiddling with commands in ERT, but none > of them worked. I'll try at the site you mention. > Also, it might be interesting to note that, in his 'footmisc' package > documentation, Robin Fairbanks repeats that it's best to avoid > footnotes in titles — but in the very same document he has > not one, but *two* footnotes before he even gets to the first > paragraph! Of course, the documentation is there to show what is possible with footmisc, even if it is not recommended. There are other footnote packages on CTAN, you could try whether any of them supports the style you want to achieve. With a *minimal* LaTeX example that gives the desired output, the LyX gurus on this list will certainly help you implementing this in LyX. Günter
Re: Footnotes in titles
On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 4:23 PM, Sebastien wrote: > > This is a rather uncommon (but not unreasonable) request. I am quite sure > > there is a way, at least with ERT. > > > > If I were you, I would try to get this working in LaTeX first, asking at > the > > comp.text.tex usenet list. Then I would try to get LyX to generate the > > required LaTeX code. > > > > Günter > > > > > > > Thanks for that. I did try fiddling with commands in ERT, but none > of them worked. I'll try at the site you mention. > > Also, it might be interesting to note that, in his 'footmisc' package > documentation, Robin Fairbanks repeats that it's best to avoid > footnotes in titles — but in the very same document he has > not one, but *two* footnotes before he even gets to the first > paragraph! > Sebastien, you may have tried this already, it kinds of does what you want but not quite. It may be a starting point though: try inserting this ERT command just before your footnote: \footnotesize{ (ending with an open brace, no closing brace) then, just after your footnote, insert, in ERT: } (just the closing brace) (see enclosed lyx file for details) This kludge should bring the size of the footnote mark down to "footnotesize" (the usual size for footnote marks, actual size depends on the base point size of your doc). The problem is that it will put the footnote mark where a normal superscript would go. If you have a big font (such as, for instance, in book titles), the footnote mark will be in the middle of the line. It is not too bad for section and chapter titles (depending on your class and chapterstyle, of course). Still, it may be a starting point. You may have to add other ad hoc latex commands to elevate the footnote mark) Hope it helps, Stefano -- __ Stefano Franchi Associate Research Professor Department of Hispanic StudiesPh: +1 (979) 845-2125 Texas A&M University Fax: +1 (979) 845-6421 College Station, Texas, USA stef...@tamu.edu http://stefano.cleinias.org titles-with-footnotes.lyx Description: application/lyx
Re: Footnotes in titles
> This is a rather uncommon (but not unreasonable) request. I am quite sure > there is a way, at least with ERT. > > If I were you, I would try to get this working in LaTeX first, asking at the > comp.text.tex usenet list. Then I would try to get LyX to generate the > required LaTeX code. > > Günter > > Thanks for that. I did try fiddling with commands in ERT, but none of them worked. I'll try at the site you mention. Also, it might be interesting to note that, in his 'footmisc' package documentation, Robin Fairbanks repeats that it's best to avoid footnotes in titles — but in the very same document he has not one, but *two* footnotes before he even gets to the first paragraph! Sebastien
Re: Footnotes in titles
On 2013-10-28, Sebastien wrote: > Wolfgang Engelmann uni-tuebingen.de> writes: >> >Is there a >> > way to change the formatting of the footnote mark within a title, in >> > order to make the footnote mark less obtrusive at this particular >> > place? I've tried a number of things but none of them work. This is a rather uncommon (but not unreasonable) request. I am quite sure there is a way, at least with ERT. If I were you, I would try to get this working in LaTeX first, asking at the comp.text.tex usenet list. Then I would try to get LyX to generate the required LaTeX code. Günter
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Wolfgang Engelmann uni-tuebingen.de> writes: > > > >Is there a > > way to change the formatting of the footnote mark within a title, in > > order to make the footnote mark less obtrusive at this particular > > place? I've tried a number of things but none of them work. > > > > Did you try a protected return (ctr return) in the footnote to brake the line? > Wolfgang Thanks for your quick reply. I tried what you suggested--inserting a protected return within the footnote itself. Upon output to PDF, there is now an error message, although the document does compile. The result is that the footnote mark and the corresponding footnote now disappear completely from the output. But perhaps I wasn't clear enough in my question: the problem is the format of the footnote reference mark itself at the end of (or even within) the text of a section or chapter title. I'm wondering if it's possible to change the format of the reference mark, so that it doesn't get set in large bold type and stick out awkwardly. Sebastien
Re: Footnotes in titles
On Sunday 27 October 2013 18:25:20 s.no...@free.fr wrote: > Hello list members, > > This one may be easy but I can't figure it out. > > If you put a footnote at the end of a title (sometimes it has to be > done), the footnote mark obviously takes on the default font of the > title: usually something big and bold. This makes the footnote mark > stick out in a way you might not want. Hence the question: is there a > way to change the formatting of the footnote mark within a title, in > order to make the footnote mark less obtrusive at this particular > place? I've tried a number of things but none of them work. > Did you try a protected return (ctr return) in the footnote to brake the line? Wolfgang > Thanks for any help anyone might be able to give. > > Sebastien
Footnotes in titles
Hello list members, This one may be easy but I can't figure it out. If you put a footnote at the end of a title (sometimes it has to be done), the footnote mark obviously takes on the default font of the title: usually something big and bold. This makes the footnote mark stick out in a way you might not want. Hence the question: is there a way to change the formatting of the footnote mark within a title, in order to make the footnote mark less obtrusive at this particular place? I've tried a number of things but none of them work. Thanks for any help anyone might be able to give. Sebastien