Re: Problems to select text in Lyx 2.1.4 / Ubuntu 16.04
On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 10:07:42AM +0200, Liviu Andronic wrote: > On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 6:52 AM, Scott Kostyshak wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 05:18:16AM +0200, Liviu Andronic wrote: > >> On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 4:04 AM, Scott Kostyshak wrote: > >> > On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 03:40:48AM +0200, Liviu Andronic wrote: > >> >> On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 11:28 PM, Scott Kostyshak > >> >> wrote: > >> >> > On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 07:04:27AM +, Hermann Josef Eckl wrote: > >> >> >> Thank you Liviu for this further explanation. I understand that LyX > >> >> >> has a > >> >> >> history of problems with clipoard managers. In the current case this > >> >> >> seems > >> >> >> triggered by a buggy version of gpaste, which causes also other > >> >> >> problems. > >> >> >> But fortunately, there is an easy solution, if gpaste is replaced by > >> >> >> another clipboard manager. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> I will post this analysis also in the German ubuntuusers-forum, so > >> >> >> maybe > >> >> >> together we can find the underlying causes of these problems. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Yours, Hermann Josef > >> >> > > >> >> > Note that the clipboard manager CopyQ works very well with LyX. > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> So does Clipman or Parcellite. Not sure how they interact with Gnome > >> >> these days, though. > >> > > >> > I'm curious, when you retrieve an item in history, do they paste in > >> > plain text? For example, make a LyX note, and copy some text and the LyX > >> > note, then copy something else, then in Clipman/Parcellite retrieve the > >> > previous item (the one with the LyX note) and paste. Does it paste the > >> > LyX note? > >> > > >> If you specifically select an item in Clipman, then all you get is the > >> note contents (i.e. plain text). Otherwise, simple copy/paste without > >> accessing the clipboard's history results in the LyX Note being > >> pasted. Is this different from CopyQ? > > > > Yes in CopyQ for me when I retrieve an item in history it pastes it as > > it would paste it if I did an immediate copy/paste. That is, the LyX > > note (and everything else) would be preserved. > > > Good to know. At that point --- when needing items from history --- I > just revert to LyX's internal clipboard memory from Right click > > Paste Recent. That sounds like a good workflow. Scott > > > Liviu > > > > > You do have to set this up though (i.e. explicitly tell CopyQ to store > > the LyX representation of the clipboard). It is reasonable for clipboard > > managers to default to only preserving certain formats. Otherwise a lot > > of memory is needed. > > > > Scott > > > >> > >> Liviu > >> > >> > >> > >> > Scott > >> > > >> >> > >> >> Liviu > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Scott > >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Am Mon, 13 Jun 2016 08:55:42 +0200 schrieb Liviu Andronic: > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 10:41 PM, Hermann Josef Eckl > >> >> >> > wrote: > >> >> >> >> Thank you, Scott and all here. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> I have tested now the situation on 4 computers and I can confirm, > >> >> >> >> that > >> >> >> >> the gpaste-extension for the GNOME Shell interferes with LyX, so > >> >> >> >> that > >> >> >> >> problems in selecting text occur. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> As soon as I remove gpaste LyX works normally. The gpaste > >> >> >> >> extension > >> >> >> >> consists of 4 packages: gpaste (this seems to be the > >> >> >> >> gpaste-demon), > >> >> >> >> gnome- > >> >> >> >> shell-extensions-gpaste (the visible shell extension), > >> >> >> >> gir1.2-gpaste-4.0, libgpaste4. I am not sure, whether it is the > >> >> >> >> shell-extension, that causes the problems or the underlying > >> >> >> >> gpaste-demon. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> It is still strange, that only LyX has those text-selection > >> >> >> >> problems, > >> >> >> >> whereas all other programs work normally together with gpaste. > >> >> >> >> Also LyX > >> >> >> >> worked fine prior to Ubuntu 16.04. In Debian 8.x gpaste has the > >> >> >> >> version > >> >> >> >> 3.14-2, in Ubuntu it has the version 3.18.3-1. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Anyway gpaste causes some other strange problems in Ubuntu 16.04. > >> >> >> >> The > >> >> >> >> gpaste-demon seems to trigger an XORG-process which consumes > >> >> >> >> extreme > >> >> >> >> amounts of CPU-power. So I would give the advice that gpaste > >> >> >> >> should not > >> >> >> >> be used in Ubuntu 16.04; it can be replaced by Clipboard > >> >> >> >> Indicator, > >> >> >> >> which can be installed online via the GNOME extensions website. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > If this can be of any consolation, I've noticed strange > >> >> >> > interactions > >> >> >> > between LyX and clipboard managers in the past: > >> >> >> > http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/6780 > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Though nothing as critical as you've experienced... > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Livu > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> Thank you for all the help and best wishe
Re: Problems to select text in Lyx 2.1.4 / Ubuntu 16.04
On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 6:52 AM, Scott Kostyshak wrote: > On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 05:18:16AM +0200, Liviu Andronic wrote: >> On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 4:04 AM, Scott Kostyshak wrote: >> > On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 03:40:48AM +0200, Liviu Andronic wrote: >> >> On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 11:28 PM, Scott Kostyshak >> >> wrote: >> >> > On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 07:04:27AM +, Hermann Josef Eckl wrote: >> >> >> Thank you Liviu for this further explanation. I understand that LyX >> >> >> has a >> >> >> history of problems with clipoard managers. In the current case this >> >> >> seems >> >> >> triggered by a buggy version of gpaste, which causes also other >> >> >> problems. >> >> >> But fortunately, there is an easy solution, if gpaste is replaced by >> >> >> another clipboard manager. >> >> >> >> >> >> I will post this analysis also in the German ubuntuusers-forum, so >> >> >> maybe >> >> >> together we can find the underlying causes of these problems. >> >> >> >> >> >> Yours, Hermann Josef >> >> > >> >> > Note that the clipboard manager CopyQ works very well with LyX. >> >> > >> >> >> >> So does Clipman or Parcellite. Not sure how they interact with Gnome >> >> these days, though. >> > >> > I'm curious, when you retrieve an item in history, do they paste in >> > plain text? For example, make a LyX note, and copy some text and the LyX >> > note, then copy something else, then in Clipman/Parcellite retrieve the >> > previous item (the one with the LyX note) and paste. Does it paste the >> > LyX note? >> > >> If you specifically select an item in Clipman, then all you get is the >> note contents (i.e. plain text). Otherwise, simple copy/paste without >> accessing the clipboard's history results in the LyX Note being >> pasted. Is this different from CopyQ? > > Yes in CopyQ for me when I retrieve an item in history it pastes it as > it would paste it if I did an immediate copy/paste. That is, the LyX > note (and everything else) would be preserved. > Good to know. At that point --- when needing items from history --- I just revert to LyX's internal clipboard memory from Right click > Paste Recent. Liviu > You do have to set this up though (i.e. explicitly tell CopyQ to store > the LyX representation of the clipboard). It is reasonable for clipboard > managers to default to only preserving certain formats. Otherwise a lot > of memory is needed. > > Scott > >> >> Liviu >> >> >> >> > Scott >> > >> >> >> >> Liviu >> >> >> >> >> >> > Scott >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Am Mon, 13 Jun 2016 08:55:42 +0200 schrieb Liviu Andronic: >> >> >> >> >> >> > On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 10:41 PM, Hermann Josef Eckl >> >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> Thank you, Scott and all here. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I have tested now the situation on 4 computers and I can confirm, >> >> >> >> that >> >> >> >> the gpaste-extension for the GNOME Shell interferes with LyX, so >> >> >> >> that >> >> >> >> problems in selecting text occur. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> As soon as I remove gpaste LyX works normally. The gpaste extension >> >> >> >> consists of 4 packages: gpaste (this seems to be the gpaste-demon), >> >> >> >> gnome- >> >> >> >> shell-extensions-gpaste (the visible shell extension), >> >> >> >> gir1.2-gpaste-4.0, libgpaste4. I am not sure, whether it is the >> >> >> >> shell-extension, that causes the problems or the underlying >> >> >> >> gpaste-demon. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It is still strange, that only LyX has those text-selection >> >> >> >> problems, >> >> >> >> whereas all other programs work normally together with gpaste. Also >> >> >> >> LyX >> >> >> >> worked fine prior to Ubuntu 16.04. In Debian 8.x gpaste has the >> >> >> >> version >> >> >> >> 3.14-2, in Ubuntu it has the version 3.18.3-1. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Anyway gpaste causes some other strange problems in Ubuntu 16.04. >> >> >> >> The >> >> >> >> gpaste-demon seems to trigger an XORG-process which consumes extreme >> >> >> >> amounts of CPU-power. So I would give the advice that gpaste should >> >> >> >> not >> >> >> >> be used in Ubuntu 16.04; it can be replaced by Clipboard Indicator, >> >> >> >> which can be installed online via the GNOME extensions website. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > If this can be of any consolation, I've noticed strange interactions >> >> >> > between LyX and clipboard managers in the past: >> >> >> > http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/6780 >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Though nothing as critical as you've experienced... >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Livu >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Thank you for all the help and best wishes, >> >> >> >> yours, Hermann Josef >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Am Thu, 09 Jun 2016 17:58:35 -0400 schrieb Scott Kostyshak: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> On Thu, Jun 09, 2016 at 09:08:16PM +, Hermann Josef Eckl wrote: >> >> >> Thank you very much, Jean-Marc. It seems, that you gave me an >> >> >> important hint for the solution of my problem. >> >> >> >> >> >> I have installed the "gpaste"-ext
Re: Problems to select text in Lyx 2.1.4 / Ubuntu 16.04
On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 05:18:16AM +0200, Liviu Andronic wrote: > On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 4:04 AM, Scott Kostyshak wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 03:40:48AM +0200, Liviu Andronic wrote: > >> On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 11:28 PM, Scott Kostyshak wrote: > >> > On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 07:04:27AM +, Hermann Josef Eckl wrote: > >> >> Thank you Liviu for this further explanation. I understand that LyX has > >> >> a > >> >> history of problems with clipoard managers. In the current case this > >> >> seems > >> >> triggered by a buggy version of gpaste, which causes also other > >> >> problems. > >> >> But fortunately, there is an easy solution, if gpaste is replaced by > >> >> another clipboard manager. > >> >> > >> >> I will post this analysis also in the German ubuntuusers-forum, so maybe > >> >> together we can find the underlying causes of these problems. > >> >> > >> >> Yours, Hermann Josef > >> > > >> > Note that the clipboard manager CopyQ works very well with LyX. > >> > > >> > >> So does Clipman or Parcellite. Not sure how they interact with Gnome > >> these days, though. > > > > I'm curious, when you retrieve an item in history, do they paste in > > plain text? For example, make a LyX note, and copy some text and the LyX > > note, then copy something else, then in Clipman/Parcellite retrieve the > > previous item (the one with the LyX note) and paste. Does it paste the > > LyX note? > > > If you specifically select an item in Clipman, then all you get is the > note contents (i.e. plain text). Otherwise, simple copy/paste without > accessing the clipboard's history results in the LyX Note being > pasted. Is this different from CopyQ? Yes in CopyQ for me when I retrieve an item in history it pastes it as it would paste it if I did an immediate copy/paste. That is, the LyX note (and everything else) would be preserved. You do have to set this up though (i.e. explicitly tell CopyQ to store the LyX representation of the clipboard). It is reasonable for clipboard managers to default to only preserving certain formats. Otherwise a lot of memory is needed. Scott > > Liviu > > > > > Scott > > > >> > >> Liviu > >> > >> > >> > Scott > >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Am Mon, 13 Jun 2016 08:55:42 +0200 schrieb Liviu Andronic: > >> >> > >> >> > On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 10:41 PM, Hermann Josef Eckl > >> >> > wrote: > >> >> >> Thank you, Scott and all here. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> I have tested now the situation on 4 computers and I can confirm, > >> >> >> that > >> >> >> the gpaste-extension for the GNOME Shell interferes with LyX, so that > >> >> >> problems in selecting text occur. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> As soon as I remove gpaste LyX works normally. The gpaste extension > >> >> >> consists of 4 packages: gpaste (this seems to be the gpaste-demon), > >> >> >> gnome- > >> >> >> shell-extensions-gpaste (the visible shell extension), > >> >> >> gir1.2-gpaste-4.0, libgpaste4. I am not sure, whether it is the > >> >> >> shell-extension, that causes the problems or the underlying > >> >> >> gpaste-demon. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> It is still strange, that only LyX has those text-selection problems, > >> >> >> whereas all other programs work normally together with gpaste. Also > >> >> >> LyX > >> >> >> worked fine prior to Ubuntu 16.04. In Debian 8.x gpaste has the > >> >> >> version > >> >> >> 3.14-2, in Ubuntu it has the version 3.18.3-1. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Anyway gpaste causes some other strange problems in Ubuntu 16.04. The > >> >> >> gpaste-demon seems to trigger an XORG-process which consumes extreme > >> >> >> amounts of CPU-power. So I would give the advice that gpaste should > >> >> >> not > >> >> >> be used in Ubuntu 16.04; it can be replaced by Clipboard Indicator, > >> >> >> which can be installed online via the GNOME extensions website. > >> >> >> > >> >> > If this can be of any consolation, I've noticed strange interactions > >> >> > between LyX and clipboard managers in the past: > >> >> > http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/6780 > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > Though nothing as critical as you've experienced... > >> >> > > >> >> > Livu > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> >> Thank you for all the help and best wishes, > >> >> >> yours, Hermann Josef > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Am Thu, 09 Jun 2016 17:58:35 -0400 schrieb Scott Kostyshak: > >> >> >> > >> >> >>> On Thu, Jun 09, 2016 at 09:08:16PM +, Hermann Josef Eckl wrote: > >> >> Thank you very much, Jean-Marc. It seems, that you gave me an > >> >> important hint for the solution of my problem. > >> >> > >> >> I have installed the "gpaste"-extension for the GNOME Shell, which > >> >> is > >> >> provided as a package of Ubuntu 16.04. > >> >> > >> >> It seems that gpaste has some severe bugs. As soon as I remove it, > >> >> the text selection problems in LyX are totally gone. It is a little > >> >> bit strange, that this affects only LyX and no other programs. > >> >> Therefore I never thought, th
Re: Problems to select text in Lyx 2.1.4 / Ubuntu 16.04
On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 4:04 AM, Scott Kostyshak wrote: > On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 03:40:48AM +0200, Liviu Andronic wrote: >> On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 11:28 PM, Scott Kostyshak wrote: >> > On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 07:04:27AM +, Hermann Josef Eckl wrote: >> >> Thank you Liviu for this further explanation. I understand that LyX has a >> >> history of problems with clipoard managers. In the current case this seems >> >> triggered by a buggy version of gpaste, which causes also other problems. >> >> But fortunately, there is an easy solution, if gpaste is replaced by >> >> another clipboard manager. >> >> >> >> I will post this analysis also in the German ubuntuusers-forum, so maybe >> >> together we can find the underlying causes of these problems. >> >> >> >> Yours, Hermann Josef >> > >> > Note that the clipboard manager CopyQ works very well with LyX. >> > >> >> So does Clipman or Parcellite. Not sure how they interact with Gnome >> these days, though. > > I'm curious, when you retrieve an item in history, do they paste in > plain text? For example, make a LyX note, and copy some text and the LyX > note, then copy something else, then in Clipman/Parcellite retrieve the > previous item (the one with the LyX note) and paste. Does it paste the > LyX note? > If you specifically select an item in Clipman, then all you get is the note contents (i.e. plain text). Otherwise, simple copy/paste without accessing the clipboard's history results in the LyX Note being pasted. Is this different from CopyQ? Liviu > Scott > >> >> Liviu >> >> >> > Scott >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Am Mon, 13 Jun 2016 08:55:42 +0200 schrieb Liviu Andronic: >> >> >> >> > On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 10:41 PM, Hermann Josef Eckl >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> Thank you, Scott and all here. >> >> >> >> >> >> I have tested now the situation on 4 computers and I can confirm, that >> >> >> the gpaste-extension for the GNOME Shell interferes with LyX, so that >> >> >> problems in selecting text occur. >> >> >> >> >> >> As soon as I remove gpaste LyX works normally. The gpaste extension >> >> >> consists of 4 packages: gpaste (this seems to be the gpaste-demon), >> >> >> gnome- >> >> >> shell-extensions-gpaste (the visible shell extension), >> >> >> gir1.2-gpaste-4.0, libgpaste4. I am not sure, whether it is the >> >> >> shell-extension, that causes the problems or the underlying >> >> >> gpaste-demon. >> >> >> >> >> >> It is still strange, that only LyX has those text-selection problems, >> >> >> whereas all other programs work normally together with gpaste. Also LyX >> >> >> worked fine prior to Ubuntu 16.04. In Debian 8.x gpaste has the version >> >> >> 3.14-2, in Ubuntu it has the version 3.18.3-1. >> >> >> >> >> >> Anyway gpaste causes some other strange problems in Ubuntu 16.04. The >> >> >> gpaste-demon seems to trigger an XORG-process which consumes extreme >> >> >> amounts of CPU-power. So I would give the advice that gpaste should not >> >> >> be used in Ubuntu 16.04; it can be replaced by Clipboard Indicator, >> >> >> which can be installed online via the GNOME extensions website. >> >> >> >> >> > If this can be of any consolation, I've noticed strange interactions >> >> > between LyX and clipboard managers in the past: >> >> > http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/6780 >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Though nothing as critical as you've experienced... >> >> > >> >> > Livu >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> Thank you for all the help and best wishes, >> >> >> yours, Hermann Josef >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Am Thu, 09 Jun 2016 17:58:35 -0400 schrieb Scott Kostyshak: >> >> >> >> >> >>> On Thu, Jun 09, 2016 at 09:08:16PM +, Hermann Josef Eckl wrote: >> >> Thank you very much, Jean-Marc. It seems, that you gave me an >> >> important hint for the solution of my problem. >> >> >> >> I have installed the "gpaste"-extension for the GNOME Shell, which is >> >> provided as a package of Ubuntu 16.04. >> >> >> >> It seems that gpaste has some severe bugs. As soon as I remove it, >> >> the text selection problems in LyX are totally gone. It is a little >> >> bit strange, that this affects only LyX and no other programs. >> >> Therefore I never thought, that gpaste could be the cause of this >> >> problem. In Debian 8 gpaste works fine with LyX and generally all >> >> programs. >> >> >> >> I will now test the situation on all of my four computers, where I >> >> have installed LyX / Ubuntu 16.04. If the removal of gpaste also >> >> clears the problems in LyX everywhere, then I think we have found the >> >> solution. >> >> >> >> Thank you so much, with best wishes, >> >> Hermann Josef >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Good job figuring out the problem! First, it is not necessarily the >> >> >>> case that LyX is not to blame. LyX could be the problem, or gpaste >> >> >>> could be the problem, or other updates due to 16.04 could be the >> >> >>> problem. It is hard to say. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Hopeful
Re: Problems to select text in Lyx 2.1.4 / Ubuntu 16.04
On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 03:40:48AM +0200, Liviu Andronic wrote: > On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 11:28 PM, Scott Kostyshak wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 07:04:27AM +, Hermann Josef Eckl wrote: > >> Thank you Liviu for this further explanation. I understand that LyX has a > >> history of problems with clipoard managers. In the current case this seems > >> triggered by a buggy version of gpaste, which causes also other problems. > >> But fortunately, there is an easy solution, if gpaste is replaced by > >> another clipboard manager. > >> > >> I will post this analysis also in the German ubuntuusers-forum, so maybe > >> together we can find the underlying causes of these problems. > >> > >> Yours, Hermann Josef > > > > Note that the clipboard manager CopyQ works very well with LyX. > > > > So does Clipman or Parcellite. Not sure how they interact with Gnome > these days, though. I'm curious, when you retrieve an item in history, do they paste in plain text? For example, make a LyX note, and copy some text and the LyX note, then copy something else, then in Clipman/Parcellite retrieve the previous item (the one with the LyX note) and paste. Does it paste the LyX note? Scott > > Liviu > > > > Scott > > > >> > >> > >> Am Mon, 13 Jun 2016 08:55:42 +0200 schrieb Liviu Andronic: > >> > >> > On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 10:41 PM, Hermann Josef Eckl > >> > wrote: > >> >> Thank you, Scott and all here. > >> >> > >> >> I have tested now the situation on 4 computers and I can confirm, that > >> >> the gpaste-extension for the GNOME Shell interferes with LyX, so that > >> >> problems in selecting text occur. > >> >> > >> >> As soon as I remove gpaste LyX works normally. The gpaste extension > >> >> consists of 4 packages: gpaste (this seems to be the gpaste-demon), > >> >> gnome- > >> >> shell-extensions-gpaste (the visible shell extension), > >> >> gir1.2-gpaste-4.0, libgpaste4. I am not sure, whether it is the > >> >> shell-extension, that causes the problems or the underlying > >> >> gpaste-demon. > >> >> > >> >> It is still strange, that only LyX has those text-selection problems, > >> >> whereas all other programs work normally together with gpaste. Also LyX > >> >> worked fine prior to Ubuntu 16.04. In Debian 8.x gpaste has the version > >> >> 3.14-2, in Ubuntu it has the version 3.18.3-1. > >> >> > >> >> Anyway gpaste causes some other strange problems in Ubuntu 16.04. The > >> >> gpaste-demon seems to trigger an XORG-process which consumes extreme > >> >> amounts of CPU-power. So I would give the advice that gpaste should not > >> >> be used in Ubuntu 16.04; it can be replaced by Clipboard Indicator, > >> >> which can be installed online via the GNOME extensions website. > >> >> > >> > If this can be of any consolation, I've noticed strange interactions > >> > between LyX and clipboard managers in the past: > >> > http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/6780 > >> > > >> > > >> > Though nothing as critical as you've experienced... > >> > > >> > Livu > >> > > >> > > >> >> Thank you for all the help and best wishes, > >> >> yours, Hermann Josef > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Am Thu, 09 Jun 2016 17:58:35 -0400 schrieb Scott Kostyshak: > >> >> > >> >>> On Thu, Jun 09, 2016 at 09:08:16PM +, Hermann Josef Eckl wrote: > >> Thank you very much, Jean-Marc. It seems, that you gave me an > >> important hint for the solution of my problem. > >> > >> I have installed the "gpaste"-extension for the GNOME Shell, which is > >> provided as a package of Ubuntu 16.04. > >> > >> It seems that gpaste has some severe bugs. As soon as I remove it, > >> the text selection problems in LyX are totally gone. It is a little > >> bit strange, that this affects only LyX and no other programs. > >> Therefore I never thought, that gpaste could be the cause of this > >> problem. In Debian 8 gpaste works fine with LyX and generally all > >> programs. > >> > >> I will now test the situation on all of my four computers, where I > >> have installed LyX / Ubuntu 16.04. If the removal of gpaste also > >> clears the problems in LyX everywhere, then I think we have found the > >> solution. > >> > >> Thank you so much, with best wishes, > >> Hermann Josef > >> >>> > >> >>> Good job figuring out the problem! First, it is not necessarily the > >> >>> case that LyX is not to blame. LyX could be the problem, or gpaste > >> >>> could be the problem, or other updates due to 16.04 could be the > >> >>> problem. It is hard to say. > >> >>> > >> >>> Hopefully you can make progress in identifying where the bug comes > >> >>> from so that you can report it to the right place so that future users > >> >>> won't have the same issue. I think that would take you a lot of time > >> >>> though. > >> >>> > >> >>> Best, > >> >>> > >> >>> Scott > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> Am Thu, 09 Jun 2016 12:22:34 +0200 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: > >> > >> > Le 08/06/2016 à
Re: Problems to select text in Lyx 2.1.4 / Ubuntu 16.04
On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 11:28 PM, Scott Kostyshak wrote: > On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 07:04:27AM +, Hermann Josef Eckl wrote: >> Thank you Liviu for this further explanation. I understand that LyX has a >> history of problems with clipoard managers. In the current case this seems >> triggered by a buggy version of gpaste, which causes also other problems. >> But fortunately, there is an easy solution, if gpaste is replaced by >> another clipboard manager. >> >> I will post this analysis also in the German ubuntuusers-forum, so maybe >> together we can find the underlying causes of these problems. >> >> Yours, Hermann Josef > > Note that the clipboard manager CopyQ works very well with LyX. > So does Clipman or Parcellite. Not sure how they interact with Gnome these days, though. Liviu > Scott > >> >> >> Am Mon, 13 Jun 2016 08:55:42 +0200 schrieb Liviu Andronic: >> >> > On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 10:41 PM, Hermann Josef Eckl >> > wrote: >> >> Thank you, Scott and all here. >> >> >> >> I have tested now the situation on 4 computers and I can confirm, that >> >> the gpaste-extension for the GNOME Shell interferes with LyX, so that >> >> problems in selecting text occur. >> >> >> >> As soon as I remove gpaste LyX works normally. The gpaste extension >> >> consists of 4 packages: gpaste (this seems to be the gpaste-demon), >> >> gnome- >> >> shell-extensions-gpaste (the visible shell extension), >> >> gir1.2-gpaste-4.0, libgpaste4. I am not sure, whether it is the >> >> shell-extension, that causes the problems or the underlying >> >> gpaste-demon. >> >> >> >> It is still strange, that only LyX has those text-selection problems, >> >> whereas all other programs work normally together with gpaste. Also LyX >> >> worked fine prior to Ubuntu 16.04. In Debian 8.x gpaste has the version >> >> 3.14-2, in Ubuntu it has the version 3.18.3-1. >> >> >> >> Anyway gpaste causes some other strange problems in Ubuntu 16.04. The >> >> gpaste-demon seems to trigger an XORG-process which consumes extreme >> >> amounts of CPU-power. So I would give the advice that gpaste should not >> >> be used in Ubuntu 16.04; it can be replaced by Clipboard Indicator, >> >> which can be installed online via the GNOME extensions website. >> >> >> > If this can be of any consolation, I've noticed strange interactions >> > between LyX and clipboard managers in the past: >> > http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/6780 >> > >> > >> > Though nothing as critical as you've experienced... >> > >> > Livu >> > >> > >> >> Thank you for all the help and best wishes, >> >> yours, Hermann Josef >> >> >> >> >> >> Am Thu, 09 Jun 2016 17:58:35 -0400 schrieb Scott Kostyshak: >> >> >> >>> On Thu, Jun 09, 2016 at 09:08:16PM +, Hermann Josef Eckl wrote: >> Thank you very much, Jean-Marc. It seems, that you gave me an >> important hint for the solution of my problem. >> >> I have installed the "gpaste"-extension for the GNOME Shell, which is >> provided as a package of Ubuntu 16.04. >> >> It seems that gpaste has some severe bugs. As soon as I remove it, >> the text selection problems in LyX are totally gone. It is a little >> bit strange, that this affects only LyX and no other programs. >> Therefore I never thought, that gpaste could be the cause of this >> problem. In Debian 8 gpaste works fine with LyX and generally all >> programs. >> >> I will now test the situation on all of my four computers, where I >> have installed LyX / Ubuntu 16.04. If the removal of gpaste also >> clears the problems in LyX everywhere, then I think we have found the >> solution. >> >> Thank you so much, with best wishes, >> Hermann Josef >> >>> >> >>> Good job figuring out the problem! First, it is not necessarily the >> >>> case that LyX is not to blame. LyX could be the problem, or gpaste >> >>> could be the problem, or other updates due to 16.04 could be the >> >>> problem. It is hard to say. >> >>> >> >>> Hopefully you can make progress in identifying where the bug comes >> >>> from so that you can report it to the right place so that future users >> >>> won't have the same issue. I think that would take you a lot of time >> >>> though. >> >>> >> >>> Best, >> >>> >> >>> Scott >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Am Thu, 09 Jun 2016 12:22:34 +0200 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: >> >> > Le 08/06/2016 à 09:06, Hermann J. Eckl a écrit : >> >> Currently I have installed Ubuntu 16.04 LTS - and am facing a very >> >> strange an annoying problem: I have difficulties to select longer >> >> or even shortes pieces of text with the keyboard or mouse. >> > >> > That seems very strange an annoying indeed. >> > >> >> If I am trying to select some text, the selection captures only >> >> short passages and fails after some words or paragraphs, >> >> regardless of whether I am selecting with the mouse or with >> >> keyboard shortcuts. >> >> ALl
Re: Problems to select text in Lyx 2.1.4 / Ubuntu 16.04
On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 07:04:27AM +, Hermann Josef Eckl wrote: > Thank you Liviu for this further explanation. I understand that LyX has a > history of problems with clipoard managers. In the current case this seems > triggered by a buggy version of gpaste, which causes also other problems. > But fortunately, there is an easy solution, if gpaste is replaced by > another clipboard manager. > > I will post this analysis also in the German ubuntuusers-forum, so maybe > together we can find the underlying causes of these problems. > > Yours, Hermann Josef Note that the clipboard manager CopyQ works very well with LyX. Scott > > > Am Mon, 13 Jun 2016 08:55:42 +0200 schrieb Liviu Andronic: > > > On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 10:41 PM, Hermann Josef Eckl > > wrote: > >> Thank you, Scott and all here. > >> > >> I have tested now the situation on 4 computers and I can confirm, that > >> the gpaste-extension for the GNOME Shell interferes with LyX, so that > >> problems in selecting text occur. > >> > >> As soon as I remove gpaste LyX works normally. The gpaste extension > >> consists of 4 packages: gpaste (this seems to be the gpaste-demon), > >> gnome- > >> shell-extensions-gpaste (the visible shell extension), > >> gir1.2-gpaste-4.0, libgpaste4. I am not sure, whether it is the > >> shell-extension, that causes the problems or the underlying > >> gpaste-demon. > >> > >> It is still strange, that only LyX has those text-selection problems, > >> whereas all other programs work normally together with gpaste. Also LyX > >> worked fine prior to Ubuntu 16.04. In Debian 8.x gpaste has the version > >> 3.14-2, in Ubuntu it has the version 3.18.3-1. > >> > >> Anyway gpaste causes some other strange problems in Ubuntu 16.04. The > >> gpaste-demon seems to trigger an XORG-process which consumes extreme > >> amounts of CPU-power. So I would give the advice that gpaste should not > >> be used in Ubuntu 16.04; it can be replaced by Clipboard Indicator, > >> which can be installed online via the GNOME extensions website. > >> > > If this can be of any consolation, I've noticed strange interactions > > between LyX and clipboard managers in the past: > > http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/6780 > > > > > > Though nothing as critical as you've experienced... > > > > Livu > > > > > >> Thank you for all the help and best wishes, > >> yours, Hermann Josef > >> > >> > >> Am Thu, 09 Jun 2016 17:58:35 -0400 schrieb Scott Kostyshak: > >> > >>> On Thu, Jun 09, 2016 at 09:08:16PM +, Hermann Josef Eckl wrote: > Thank you very much, Jean-Marc. It seems, that you gave me an > important hint for the solution of my problem. > > I have installed the "gpaste"-extension for the GNOME Shell, which is > provided as a package of Ubuntu 16.04. > > It seems that gpaste has some severe bugs. As soon as I remove it, > the text selection problems in LyX are totally gone. It is a little > bit strange, that this affects only LyX and no other programs. > Therefore I never thought, that gpaste could be the cause of this > problem. In Debian 8 gpaste works fine with LyX and generally all > programs. > > I will now test the situation on all of my four computers, where I > have installed LyX / Ubuntu 16.04. If the removal of gpaste also > clears the problems in LyX everywhere, then I think we have found the > solution. > > Thank you so much, with best wishes, > Hermann Josef > >>> > >>> Good job figuring out the problem! First, it is not necessarily the > >>> case that LyX is not to blame. LyX could be the problem, or gpaste > >>> could be the problem, or other updates due to 16.04 could be the > >>> problem. It is hard to say. > >>> > >>> Hopefully you can make progress in identifying where the bug comes > >>> from so that you can report it to the right place so that future users > >>> won't have the same issue. I think that would take you a lot of time > >>> though. > >>> > >>> Best, > >>> > >>> Scott > >>> > >>> > >>> > Am Thu, 09 Jun 2016 12:22:34 +0200 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: > > > Le 08/06/2016 à 09:06, Hermann J. Eckl a écrit : > >> Currently I have installed Ubuntu 16.04 LTS - and am facing a very > >> strange an annoying problem: I have difficulties to select longer > >> or even shortes pieces of text with the keyboard or mouse. > > > > That seems very strange an annoying indeed. > > > >> If I am trying to select some text, the selection captures only > >> short passages and fails after some words or paragraphs, > >> regardless of whether I am selecting with the mouse or with > >> keyboard shortcuts. > >> ALl other programmes (text editor, Libre Office etc.) are working > >> correctly and I can select text withput any problems. > > > > Do you run any utilisty related to clipboard (clipboard manager of > > some sort)? > > > > JMarc > >
Re: Problems to select text in Lyx 2.1.4 / Ubuntu 16.04
Thank you Liviu for this further explanation. I understand that LyX has a history of problems with clipoard managers. In the current case this seems triggered by a buggy version of gpaste, which causes also other problems. But fortunately, there is an easy solution, if gpaste is replaced by another clipboard manager. I will post this analysis also in the German ubuntuusers-forum, so maybe together we can find the underlying causes of these problems. Yours, Hermann Josef Am Mon, 13 Jun 2016 08:55:42 +0200 schrieb Liviu Andronic: > On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 10:41 PM, Hermann Josef Eckl > wrote: >> Thank you, Scott and all here. >> >> I have tested now the situation on 4 computers and I can confirm, that >> the gpaste-extension for the GNOME Shell interferes with LyX, so that >> problems in selecting text occur. >> >> As soon as I remove gpaste LyX works normally. The gpaste extension >> consists of 4 packages: gpaste (this seems to be the gpaste-demon), >> gnome- >> shell-extensions-gpaste (the visible shell extension), >> gir1.2-gpaste-4.0, libgpaste4. I am not sure, whether it is the >> shell-extension, that causes the problems or the underlying >> gpaste-demon. >> >> It is still strange, that only LyX has those text-selection problems, >> whereas all other programs work normally together with gpaste. Also LyX >> worked fine prior to Ubuntu 16.04. In Debian 8.x gpaste has the version >> 3.14-2, in Ubuntu it has the version 3.18.3-1. >> >> Anyway gpaste causes some other strange problems in Ubuntu 16.04. The >> gpaste-demon seems to trigger an XORG-process which consumes extreme >> amounts of CPU-power. So I would give the advice that gpaste should not >> be used in Ubuntu 16.04; it can be replaced by Clipboard Indicator, >> which can be installed online via the GNOME extensions website. >> > If this can be of any consolation, I've noticed strange interactions > between LyX and clipboard managers in the past: > http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/6780 > > > Though nothing as critical as you've experienced... > > Livu > > >> Thank you for all the help and best wishes, >> yours, Hermann Josef >> >> >> Am Thu, 09 Jun 2016 17:58:35 -0400 schrieb Scott Kostyshak: >> >>> On Thu, Jun 09, 2016 at 09:08:16PM +, Hermann Josef Eckl wrote: Thank you very much, Jean-Marc. It seems, that you gave me an important hint for the solution of my problem. I have installed the "gpaste"-extension for the GNOME Shell, which is provided as a package of Ubuntu 16.04. It seems that gpaste has some severe bugs. As soon as I remove it, the text selection problems in LyX are totally gone. It is a little bit strange, that this affects only LyX and no other programs. Therefore I never thought, that gpaste could be the cause of this problem. In Debian 8 gpaste works fine with LyX and generally all programs. I will now test the situation on all of my four computers, where I have installed LyX / Ubuntu 16.04. If the removal of gpaste also clears the problems in LyX everywhere, then I think we have found the solution. Thank you so much, with best wishes, Hermann Josef >>> >>> Good job figuring out the problem! First, it is not necessarily the >>> case that LyX is not to blame. LyX could be the problem, or gpaste >>> could be the problem, or other updates due to 16.04 could be the >>> problem. It is hard to say. >>> >>> Hopefully you can make progress in identifying where the bug comes >>> from so that you can report it to the right place so that future users >>> won't have the same issue. I think that would take you a lot of time >>> though. >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Scott >>> >>> >>> Am Thu, 09 Jun 2016 12:22:34 +0200 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: > Le 08/06/2016 à 09:06, Hermann J. Eckl a écrit : >> Currently I have installed Ubuntu 16.04 LTS - and am facing a very >> strange an annoying problem: I have difficulties to select longer >> or even shortes pieces of text with the keyboard or mouse. > > That seems very strange an annoying indeed. > >> If I am trying to select some text, the selection captures only >> short passages and fails after some words or paragraphs, >> regardless of whether I am selecting with the mouse or with >> keyboard shortcuts. >> ALl other programmes (text editor, Libre Office etc.) are working >> correctly and I can select text withput any problems. > > Do you run any utilisty related to clipboard (clipboard manager of > some sort)? > > JMarc >>
Re: Problems to select text in Lyx 2.1.4 / Ubuntu 16.04
On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 10:41 PM, Hermann Josef Eckl wrote: > Thank you, Scott and all here. > > I have tested now the situation on 4 computers and I can confirm, that the > gpaste-extension for the GNOME Shell interferes with LyX, so that problems > in selecting text occur. > > As soon as I remove gpaste LyX works normally. The gpaste extension > consists of 4 packages: gpaste (this seems to be the gpaste-demon), gnome- > shell-extensions-gpaste (the visible shell extension), gir1.2-gpaste-4.0, > libgpaste4. I am not sure, whether it is the shell-extension, that causes > the problems or the underlying gpaste-demon. > > It is still strange, that only LyX has those text-selection problems, > whereas all other programs work normally together with gpaste. Also LyX > worked fine prior to Ubuntu 16.04. In Debian 8.x gpaste has the version > 3.14-2, in Ubuntu it has the version 3.18.3-1. > > Anyway gpaste causes some other strange problems in Ubuntu 16.04. The > gpaste-demon seems to trigger an XORG-process which consumes extreme > amounts of CPU-power. So I would give the advice that gpaste should not be > used in Ubuntu 16.04; it can be replaced by Clipboard Indicator, which can > be installed online via the GNOME extensions website. > If this can be of any consolation, I've noticed strange interactions between LyX and clipboard managers in the past: http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/6780 Though nothing as critical as you've experienced... Livu > Thank you for all the help and best wishes, > yours, Hermann Josef > > > Am Thu, 09 Jun 2016 17:58:35 -0400 schrieb Scott Kostyshak: > >> On Thu, Jun 09, 2016 at 09:08:16PM +, Hermann Josef Eckl wrote: >>> Thank you very much, Jean-Marc. It seems, that you gave me an important >>> hint for the solution of my problem. >>> >>> I have installed the "gpaste"-extension for the GNOME Shell, which is >>> provided as a package of Ubuntu 16.04. >>> >>> It seems that gpaste has some severe bugs. As soon as I remove it, the >>> text selection problems in LyX are totally gone. It is a little bit >>> strange, that this affects only LyX and no other programs. Therefore I >>> never thought, that gpaste could be the cause of this problem. In >>> Debian 8 gpaste works fine with LyX and generally all programs. >>> >>> I will now test the situation on all of my four computers, where I have >>> installed LyX / Ubuntu 16.04. If the removal of gpaste also clears the >>> problems in LyX everywhere, then I think we have found the solution. >>> >>> Thank you so much, with best wishes, >>> Hermann Josef >> >> Good job figuring out the problem! First, it is not necessarily the case >> that LyX is not to blame. LyX could be the problem, or gpaste could be >> the problem, or other updates due to 16.04 could be the problem. It is >> hard to say. >> >> Hopefully you can make progress in identifying where the bug comes from >> so that you can report it to the right place so that future users won't >> have the same issue. I think that would take you a lot of time though. >> >> Best, >> >> Scott >> >> >>> >>> Am Thu, 09 Jun 2016 12:22:34 +0200 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: >>> >>> > Le 08/06/2016 à 09:06, Hermann J. Eckl a écrit : >>> >> Currently I have installed Ubuntu 16.04 LTS - and am facing a very >>> >> strange an annoying problem: I have difficulties to select longer or >>> >> even shortes pieces of text with the keyboard or mouse. >>> > >>> > That seems very strange an annoying indeed. >>> > >>> >> If I am trying to select some text, the selection captures only >>> >> short passages and fails after some words or paragraphs, regardless >>> >> of whether I am selecting with the mouse or with keyboard shortcuts. >>> >> ALl other programmes (text editor, Libre Office etc.) are working >>> >> correctly and I can select text withput any problems. >>> > >>> > Do you run any utilisty related to clipboard (clipboard manager of >>> > some sort)? >>> > >>> > JMarc >>> >>> > >
Re: Problems to select text in Lyx 2.1.4 / Ubuntu 16.04
Thank you, Scott and all here. I have tested now the situation on 4 computers and I can confirm, that the gpaste-extension for the GNOME Shell interferes with LyX, so that problems in selecting text occur. As soon as I remove gpaste LyX works normally. The gpaste extension consists of 4 packages: gpaste (this seems to be the gpaste-demon), gnome- shell-extensions-gpaste (the visible shell extension), gir1.2-gpaste-4.0, libgpaste4. I am not sure, whether it is the shell-extension, that causes the problems or the underlying gpaste-demon. It is still strange, that only LyX has those text-selection problems, whereas all other programs work normally together with gpaste. Also LyX worked fine prior to Ubuntu 16.04. In Debian 8.x gpaste has the version 3.14-2, in Ubuntu it has the version 3.18.3-1. Anyway gpaste causes some other strange problems in Ubuntu 16.04. The gpaste-demon seems to trigger an XORG-process which consumes extreme amounts of CPU-power. So I would give the advice that gpaste should not be used in Ubuntu 16.04; it can be replaced by Clipboard Indicator, which can be installed online via the GNOME extensions website. Thank you for all the help and best wishes, yours, Hermann Josef Am Thu, 09 Jun 2016 17:58:35 -0400 schrieb Scott Kostyshak: > On Thu, Jun 09, 2016 at 09:08:16PM +, Hermann Josef Eckl wrote: >> Thank you very much, Jean-Marc. It seems, that you gave me an important >> hint for the solution of my problem. >> >> I have installed the "gpaste"-extension for the GNOME Shell, which is >> provided as a package of Ubuntu 16.04. >> >> It seems that gpaste has some severe bugs. As soon as I remove it, the >> text selection problems in LyX are totally gone. It is a little bit >> strange, that this affects only LyX and no other programs. Therefore I >> never thought, that gpaste could be the cause of this problem. In >> Debian 8 gpaste works fine with LyX and generally all programs. >> >> I will now test the situation on all of my four computers, where I have >> installed LyX / Ubuntu 16.04. If the removal of gpaste also clears the >> problems in LyX everywhere, then I think we have found the solution. >> >> Thank you so much, with best wishes, >> Hermann Josef > > Good job figuring out the problem! First, it is not necessarily the case > that LyX is not to blame. LyX could be the problem, or gpaste could be > the problem, or other updates due to 16.04 could be the problem. It is > hard to say. > > Hopefully you can make progress in identifying where the bug comes from > so that you can report it to the right place so that future users won't > have the same issue. I think that would take you a lot of time though. > > Best, > > Scott > > >> >> Am Thu, 09 Jun 2016 12:22:34 +0200 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: >> >> > Le 08/06/2016 à 09:06, Hermann J. Eckl a écrit : >> >> Currently I have installed Ubuntu 16.04 LTS - and am facing a very >> >> strange an annoying problem: I have difficulties to select longer or >> >> even shortes pieces of text with the keyboard or mouse. >> > >> > That seems very strange an annoying indeed. >> > >> >> If I am trying to select some text, the selection captures only >> >> short passages and fails after some words or paragraphs, regardless >> >> of whether I am selecting with the mouse or with keyboard shortcuts. >> >> ALl other programmes (text editor, Libre Office etc.) are working >> >> correctly and I can select text withput any problems. >> > >> > Do you run any utilisty related to clipboard (clipboard manager of >> > some sort)? >> > >> > JMarc >> >>
Re: Problems to select text in Lyx 2.1.4 / Ubuntu 16.04
On Thu, Jun 09, 2016 at 09:08:16PM +, Hermann Josef Eckl wrote: > Thank you very much, Jean-Marc. It seems, that you gave me an important > hint for the solution of my problem. > > I have installed the "gpaste"-extension for the GNOME Shell, which is > provided as a package of Ubuntu 16.04. > > It seems that gpaste has some severe bugs. As soon as I remove it, the > text selection problems in LyX are totally gone. It is a little bit > strange, that this affects only LyX and no other programs. Therefore I > never thought, that gpaste could be the cause of this problem. In Debian 8 > gpaste works fine with LyX and generally all programs. > > I will now test the situation on all of my four computers, where I have > installed LyX / Ubuntu 16.04. If the removal of gpaste also clears the > problems in LyX everywhere, then I think we have found the solution. > > Thank you so much, with best wishes, > Hermann Josef Good job figuring out the problem! First, it is not necessarily the case that LyX is not to blame. LyX could be the problem, or gpaste could be the problem, or other updates due to 16.04 could be the problem. It is hard to say. Hopefully you can make progress in identifying where the bug comes from so that you can report it to the right place so that future users won't have the same issue. I think that would take you a lot of time though. Best, Scott > > > Am Thu, 09 Jun 2016 12:22:34 +0200 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: > > > Le 08/06/2016 à 09:06, Hermann J. Eckl a écrit : > >> Currently I have installed Ubuntu 16.04 LTS - and am facing a very > >> strange an annoying problem: I have difficulties to select longer or > >> even shortes pieces of text with the keyboard or mouse. > > > > That seems very strange an annoying indeed. > > > >> If I am trying to select some text, the selection captures only short > >> passages and fails after some words or paragraphs, regardless of > >> whether I am selecting with the mouse or with keyboard shortcuts. ALl > >> other programmes (text editor, Libre Office etc.) are working correctly > >> and I can select text withput any problems. > > > > Do you run any utilisty related to clipboard (clipboard manager of some > > sort)? > > > > JMarc > > signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Problems to select text in Lyx 2.1.4 / Ubuntu 16.04
Thank you, Liviu. It seems that Jean-Marc, below in this thread, has given an important clue to the solution of this strange problem. Yours, Hermann Josef Am Thu, 09 Jun 2016 12:21:06 +0200 schrieb Liviu Andronic: > On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 12:11 PM, Hermann Josef Eckl > wrote: >> Thank you, Guillaume, for your advice. I tried this PPA with LyX 2.2. >> >> Unfortunately the problem persists also with this new version. >> Additionally, the selection of text is VERY slowly and the selection >> breaks again after some words or lines. >> > Are you seeing this in a large document? Can you come up with a minimal > reproducible .lyx file? http://wiki.lyx.org/FAQ/MinimalExample > > > Liviu > > >> Yours, Hermann Josef >> >> Am Wed, 08 Jun 2016 15:35:35 +0100 schrieb Guillaume Munch: >> >>> I fixed a bug like this in 2.2. I would advise you to try 2.2 from the >>> PPA https://launchpad.net/~lyx-devel/+archive/ubuntu/release . >> >>> Le 08/06/2016 08:06, Hermann J. Eckl a écrit : >> Currently I have installed Ubuntu 16.04 LTS - and am facing a very strange an annoying problem: I have difficulties to select longer or even shortes pieces of text with the keyboard or mouse. If I am trying to select some text, the selection captures only short passages and fails after some words or paragraphs, regardless of whether I am selecting with the mouse or with keyboard shortcuts. ALl other programmes (text editor, Libre Office etc.) are working correctly and I can select text withput any problems. I am facing this problem with at least 4 computers, all of them have installed Ubuntu 16.04 LTS and LyX 2.1.4. I am running another machine with Debian 8.x and have no problems at all. Of course I have tried different keyboards and mice, I have also reinstalled Lyx and TexLive and I have deleted my old Lyx configuration files. >>
Re: Problems to select text in Lyx 2.1.4 / Ubuntu 16.04
Thank you very much, Jean-Marc. It seems, that you gave me an important hint for the solution of my problem. I have installed the "gpaste"-extension for the GNOME Shell, which is provided as a package of Ubuntu 16.04. It seems that gpaste has some severe bugs. As soon as I remove it, the text selection problems in LyX are totally gone. It is a little bit strange, that this affects only LyX and no other programs. Therefore I never thought, that gpaste could be the cause of this problem. In Debian 8 gpaste works fine with LyX and generally all programs. I will now test the situation on all of my four computers, where I have installed LyX / Ubuntu 16.04. If the removal of gpaste also clears the problems in LyX everywhere, then I think we have found the solution. Thank you so much, with best wishes, Hermann Josef Am Thu, 09 Jun 2016 12:22:34 +0200 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: > Le 08/06/2016 à 09:06, Hermann J. Eckl a écrit : >> Currently I have installed Ubuntu 16.04 LTS - and am facing a very >> strange an annoying problem: I have difficulties to select longer or >> even shortes pieces of text with the keyboard or mouse. > > That seems very strange an annoying indeed. > >> If I am trying to select some text, the selection captures only short >> passages and fails after some words or paragraphs, regardless of >> whether I am selecting with the mouse or with keyboard shortcuts. ALl >> other programmes (text editor, Libre Office etc.) are working correctly >> and I can select text withput any problems. > > Do you run any utilisty related to clipboard (clipboard manager of some > sort)? > > JMarc
Re: Problems to select text in Lyx 2.1.4 / Ubuntu 16.04
On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 4:17 PM, Guillaume Munch wrote: > Le 09/06/2016 11:11, Hermann Josef Eckl a écrit : >> >> Thank you, Guillaume, for your advice. I tried this PPA with LyX 2.2. >> >> Unfortunately the problem persists also with this new version. >> Additionally, the selection of text is VERY slowly and the selection >> breaks again after some words or lines. >> >> Yours, Hermann Josef >> > > Regarding the slowness issues, is there a qt5 version for you to try in this > PPA for your distribution? > I put a Qt5 build for 16.04 in the LyX Qt5 PPA: https://launchpad.net/~lyx-devel/+archive/ubuntu/release-qt5 Liviu >
Re: Problems to select text in Lyx 2.1.4 / Ubuntu 16.04
Le 09/06/2016 11:11, Hermann Josef Eckl a écrit : Thank you, Guillaume, for your advice. I tried this PPA with LyX 2.2. Unfortunately the problem persists also with this new version. Additionally, the selection of text is VERY slowly and the selection breaks again after some words or lines. Yours, Hermann Josef Regarding the slowness issues, is there a qt5 version for you to try in this PPA for your distribution?
Re: Problems to select text in Lyx 2.1.4 / Ubuntu 16.04
Le 08/06/2016 à 09:06, Hermann J. Eckl a écrit : Currently I have installed Ubuntu 16.04 LTS - and am facing a very strange an annoying problem: I have difficulties to select longer or even shortes pieces of text with the keyboard or mouse. That seems very strange an annoying indeed. If I am trying to select some text, the selection captures only short passages and fails after some words or paragraphs, regardless of whether I am selecting with the mouse or with keyboard shortcuts. ALl other programmes (text editor, Libre Office etc.) are working correctly and I can select text withput any problems. Do you run any utilisty related to clipboard (clipboard manager of some sort)? JMarc
Re: Problems to select text in Lyx 2.1.4 / Ubuntu 16.04
On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 12:11 PM, Hermann Josef Eckl wrote: > Thank you, Guillaume, for your advice. I tried this PPA with LyX 2.2. > > Unfortunately the problem persists also with this new version. > Additionally, the selection of text is VERY slowly and the selection > breaks again after some words or lines. > Are you seeing this in a large document? Can you come up with a minimal reproducible .lyx file? http://wiki.lyx.org/FAQ/MinimalExample Liviu > Yours, Hermann Josef > > Am Wed, 08 Jun 2016 15:35:35 +0100 schrieb Guillaume Munch: > >> I fixed a bug like this in 2.2. I would advise you to try 2.2 from the >> PPA https://launchpad.net/~lyx-devel/+archive/ubuntu/release . > >> Le 08/06/2016 08:06, Hermann J. Eckl a écrit : > >>> Currently I have installed Ubuntu 16.04 LTS - and am facing a very >>> strange an annoying problem: I have difficulties to select longer or >>> even shortes pieces of text with the keyboard or mouse. >>> >>> If I am trying to select some text, the selection captures only short >>> passages and fails after some words or paragraphs, regardless of >>> whether I am selecting with the mouse or with keyboard shortcuts. ALl >>> other programmes (text editor, Libre Office etc.) are working correctly >>> and I can select text withput any problems. >>> >>> I am facing this problem with at least 4 computers, all of them have >>> installed Ubuntu 16.04 LTS and LyX 2.1.4. I am running another machine >>> with Debian 8.x and have no problems at all. Of course I have tried >>> different keyboards and mice, I have also reinstalled Lyx and TexLive >>> and I have deleted my old Lyx configuration files. >
Re: Problems to select text in Lyx 2.1.4 / Ubuntu 16.04
Thank you, Guillaume, for your advice. I tried this PPA with LyX 2.2. Unfortunately the problem persists also with this new version. Additionally, the selection of text is VERY slowly and the selection breaks again after some words or lines. Yours, Hermann Josef Am Wed, 08 Jun 2016 15:35:35 +0100 schrieb Guillaume Munch: > I fixed a bug like this in 2.2. I would advise you to try 2.2 from the > PPA https://launchpad.net/~lyx-devel/+archive/ubuntu/release . > Le 08/06/2016 08:06, Hermann J. Eckl a écrit : >> Currently I have installed Ubuntu 16.04 LTS - and am facing a very >> strange an annoying problem: I have difficulties to select longer or >> even shortes pieces of text with the keyboard or mouse. >> >> If I am trying to select some text, the selection captures only short >> passages and fails after some words or paragraphs, regardless of >> whether I am selecting with the mouse or with keyboard shortcuts. ALl >> other programmes (text editor, Libre Office etc.) are working correctly >> and I can select text withput any problems. >> >> I am facing this problem with at least 4 computers, all of them have >> installed Ubuntu 16.04 LTS and LyX 2.1.4. I am running another machine >> with Debian 8.x and have no problems at all. Of course I have tried >> different keyboards and mice, I have also reinstalled Lyx and TexLive >> and I have deleted my old Lyx configuration files.
Re: Problems to select text in Lyx 2.1.4 / Ubuntu 16.04
On Wed, Jun 08, 2016 at 07:06:19AM +, Hermann J. Eckl wrote: > Hello, > > I am using Lyx since several years with different Linux distributions > (Ubuntu, Debian Jessie 8.x etc.). > > Currently I have installed Ubuntu 16.04 LTS - and am facing a very strange > an annoying problem: I have difficulties to select longer or even shortes > pieces of text with the keyboard or mouse. > > If I am trying to select some text, the selection captures only short > passages and fails after some words or paragraphs, regardless of whether I > am selecting with the mouse or with keyboard shortcuts. ALl other programmes > (text editor, Libre Office etc.) are working correctly and I can select text > withput any problems. > > I am facing this problem with at least 4 computers, all of them have > installed Ubuntu 16.04 LTS and LyX 2.1.4. I am running another machine with > Debian 8.x and have no problems at all. Of course I have tried different > keyboards and mice, I have also reinstalled Lyx and TexLive and I have > deleted my old Lyx configuration files. > > I would very much appreciate all hints and tips to solve this problem. > > Yours, Hermann Josef > Cross-posted at http://latex-community.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=27442 Hermann, please understand the consequences of cross-posting. Take a look here, for example: http://latex-community.org/home/latex-community/94-etiquette/454-crossposts Best, Scott signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Problems to select text in Lyx 2.1.4 / Ubuntu 16.04
Dear Hermann Josef, I fixed a bug like this in 2.2. I would advise you to try 2.2 from the PPA https://launchpad.net/~lyx-devel/+archive/ubuntu/release . Sincerely, Guillaume Le 08/06/2016 08:06, Hermann J. Eckl a écrit : Hello, I am using Lyx since several years with different Linux distributions (Ubuntu, Debian Jessie 8.x etc.). Currently I have installed Ubuntu 16.04 LTS - and am facing a very strange an annoying problem: I have difficulties to select longer or even shortes pieces of text with the keyboard or mouse. If I am trying to select some text, the selection captures only short passages and fails after some words or paragraphs, regardless of whether I am selecting with the mouse or with keyboard shortcuts. ALl other programmes (text editor, Libre Office etc.) are working correctly and I can select text withput any problems. I am facing this problem with at least 4 computers, all of them have installed Ubuntu 16.04 LTS and LyX 2.1.4. I am running another machine with Debian 8.x and have no problems at all. Of course I have tried different keyboards and mice, I have also reinstalled Lyx and TexLive and I have deleted my old Lyx configuration files. I would very much appreciate all hints and tips to solve this problem. Yours, Hermann Josef
Problems to select text in Lyx 2.1.4 / Ubuntu 16.04
Hello, I am using Lyx since several years with different Linux distributions (Ubuntu, Debian Jessie 8.x etc.). Currently I have installed Ubuntu 16.04 LTS - and am facing a very strange an annoying problem: I have difficulties to select longer or even shortes pieces of text with the keyboard or mouse. If I am trying to select some text, the selection captures only short passages and fails after some words or paragraphs, regardless of whether I am selecting with the mouse or with keyboard shortcuts. ALl other programmes (text editor, Libre Office etc.) are working correctly and I can select text withput any problems. I am facing this problem with at least 4 computers, all of them have installed Ubuntu 16.04 LTS and LyX 2.1.4. I am running another machine with Debian 8.x and have no problems at all. Of course I have tried different keyboards and mice, I have also reinstalled Lyx and TexLive and I have deleted my old Lyx configuration files. I would very much appreciate all hints and tips to solve this problem. Yours, Hermann Josef
