Re: LyX 1.6.5 claims Bera fonts not installed

2010-03-21 Thread Richard Talley
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 5:33 PM, Richard Talley rich.tal...@gmail.comwrote:


 On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 2:04 PM, BH bewih...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 3:30 PM, Richard Talley rich.tal...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  +checking for package bera [bera]... yes

 This says it has found the bera fonts. So you should have access to
 them in Document  Settings  Fonts. (Are you sure you don't?)

 At this point, I'm baffled.

 BH


 Thanks for your help.

 I think that the indication that the Bera fonts are not installed is just a
 symptom of a deeper problem; I appear to have lost all font control. No
 matter what fonts I choose, I get a pdf that has the default LaTeX fonts.
 Something is badly screwed up in my TeX installation; I'm going to get rid
 of it and start over.

 Your comments were still useful; I learned several things about trouble
 shooting my installation.

 -=- Rich


Well, there is nothing wrong with my TeX installation. I've been using
TeXShop to work directly in LaTeX and also to typeset LyX documents that I
have exported to LaTeX. All the fonts and utilities are available that are
supposed to be.

There were two things wrong with my LyX 1.6.5 installation, both easy to
correct once I understood what was going on.

Somehow these lines got into the preamble I've been using:

% set fonts for nicer pdf view

\IfFileExists{lmodern.sty}{\usepackage{lmodern}}{}

\fi % end if pdflatex is used


When I used pdflatex to typeset a document, these lines were substituting
Latin Modern for any fonts I was choosing in Lyx.


The second problem is that LyX was showing the Bera fonts as 'not
installed', even though they are and I can use them to typeset a document
(once I had figured out and corrected the first problem). For some reason,
LyX is not adding the correct information to the packages.lst file (which on
OS X is in ~/Library/Application Support/LyX-1.6/), even though the
configure.log file shows that the reconfigure procedure is correctly seeing
that the Bera fonts are installed and available. So I just added a line with
the word 'bera' to the packages.lst file and the 'not installed' message
went away.


-=- Rich


Re: LyX 1.6.5 claims Bera fonts not installed

2010-03-21 Thread Richard Talley
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 5:33 PM, Richard Talley rich.tal...@gmail.comwrote:


 On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 2:04 PM, BH bewih...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 3:30 PM, Richard Talley rich.tal...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  +checking for package bera [bera]... yes

 This says it has found the bera fonts. So you should have access to
 them in Document  Settings  Fonts. (Are you sure you don't?)

 At this point, I'm baffled.

 BH


 Thanks for your help.

 I think that the indication that the Bera fonts are not installed is just a
 symptom of a deeper problem; I appear to have lost all font control. No
 matter what fonts I choose, I get a pdf that has the default LaTeX fonts.
 Something is badly screwed up in my TeX installation; I'm going to get rid
 of it and start over.

 Your comments were still useful; I learned several things about trouble
 shooting my installation.

 -=- Rich


Well, there is nothing wrong with my TeX installation. I've been using
TeXShop to work directly in LaTeX and also to typeset LyX documents that I
have exported to LaTeX. All the fonts and utilities are available that are
supposed to be.

There were two things wrong with my LyX 1.6.5 installation, both easy to
correct once I understood what was going on.

Somehow these lines got into the preamble I've been using:

% set fonts for nicer pdf view

\IfFileExists{lmodern.sty}{\usepackage{lmodern}}{}

\fi % end if pdflatex is used


When I used pdflatex to typeset a document, these lines were substituting
Latin Modern for any fonts I was choosing in Lyx.


The second problem is that LyX was showing the Bera fonts as 'not
installed', even though they are and I can use them to typeset a document
(once I had figured out and corrected the first problem). For some reason,
LyX is not adding the correct information to the packages.lst file (which on
OS X is in ~/Library/Application Support/LyX-1.6/), even though the
configure.log file shows that the reconfigure procedure is correctly seeing
that the Bera fonts are installed and available. So I just added a line with
the word 'bera' to the packages.lst file and the 'not installed' message
went away.


-=- Rich


Re: LyX 1.6.5 claims Bera fonts not installed

2010-03-21 Thread Richard Talley
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 5:33 PM, Richard Talley wrote:

>
> On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 2:04 PM, BH  wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 3:30 PM, Richard Talley 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > +checking for package bera [bera]... yes
>>
>> This says it has found the bera fonts. So you should have access to
>> them in Document > Settings > Fonts. (Are you sure you don't?)
>>
>> At this point, I'm baffled.
>>
>> BH
>>
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> I think that the indication that the Bera fonts are not installed is just a
> symptom of a deeper problem; I appear to have lost all font control. No
> matter what fonts I choose, I get a pdf that has the default LaTeX fonts.
> Something is badly screwed up in my TeX installation; I'm going to get rid
> of it and start over.
>
> Your comments were still useful; I learned several things about trouble
> shooting my installation.
>
> -=- Rich
>
>
Well, there is nothing wrong with my TeX installation. I've been using
TeXShop to work directly in LaTeX and also to typeset LyX documents that I
have exported to LaTeX. All the fonts and utilities are available that are
supposed to be.

There were two things wrong with my LyX 1.6.5 installation, both easy to
correct once I understood what was going on.

Somehow these lines got into the preamble I've been using:

% set fonts for nicer pdf view

\IfFileExists{lmodern.sty}{\usepackage{lmodern}}{}

\fi % end if pdflatex is used


When I used pdflatex to typeset a document, these lines were substituting
Latin Modern for any fonts I was choosing in Lyx.


The second problem is that LyX was showing the Bera fonts as 'not
installed', even though they are and I can use them to typeset a document
(once I had figured out and corrected the first problem). For some reason,
LyX is not adding the correct information to the packages.lst file (which on
OS X is in ~/Library/Application Support/LyX-1.6/), even though the
configure.log file shows that the reconfigure procedure is correctly seeing
that the Bera fonts are installed and available. So I just added a line with
the word 'bera' to the packages.lst file and the 'not installed' message
went away.


-=- Rich


Re: LyX 1.6.5 claims Bera fonts not installed

2010-03-18 Thread Anders Ekberg
On 18 mar 2010, at 00.33, Richard Talley wrote:

 On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 2:04 PM, BH bewih...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 3:30 PM, Richard Talley rich.tal...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 +checking for package bera [bera]... yes
 
 This says it has found the bera fonts. So you should have access to
 them in Document  Settings  Fonts. (Are you sure you don't?)
 
 At this point, I'm baffled.
 
 BH
 
 
 Thanks for your help.
 
 I think that the indication that the Bera fonts are not installed is just a
 symptom of a deeper problem; I appear to have lost all font control. No
 matter what fonts I choose, I get a pdf that has the default LaTeX fonts.
 Something is badly screwed up in my TeX installation; I'm going to get rid
 of it and start over.
...

I guess you already tried sudo texhash from the terminal?

/Anders


Re: LyX 1.6.5 claims Bera fonts not installed

2010-03-18 Thread Richard Talley
On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 1:11 AM, Anders Ekberg a...@mac.com wrote:

 On 18 mar 2010, at 00.33, Richard Talley wrote:

  Thanks for your help.
 
  I think that the indication that the Bera fonts are not installed is just
 a
  symptom of a deeper problem; I appear to have lost all font control. No
  matter what fonts I choose, I get a pdf that has the default LaTeX fonts.
  Something is badly screwed up in my TeX installation; I'm going to get
 rid
  of it and start over.
 ...

 I guess you already tried sudo texhash from the terminal?

 /Anders


Strictly speaking I shouldn't have to, as both the MacTeX installer and the
update utility do so. However, I did run it manually, just in case.

-=- Rich


Re: LyX 1.6.5 claims Bera fonts not installed

2010-03-18 Thread Anders Ekberg
On 18 mar 2010, at 00.33, Richard Talley wrote:

 On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 2:04 PM, BH bewih...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 3:30 PM, Richard Talley rich.tal...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 +checking for package bera [bera]... yes
 
 This says it has found the bera fonts. So you should have access to
 them in Document  Settings  Fonts. (Are you sure you don't?)
 
 At this point, I'm baffled.
 
 BH
 
 
 Thanks for your help.
 
 I think that the indication that the Bera fonts are not installed is just a
 symptom of a deeper problem; I appear to have lost all font control. No
 matter what fonts I choose, I get a pdf that has the default LaTeX fonts.
 Something is badly screwed up in my TeX installation; I'm going to get rid
 of it and start over.
...

I guess you already tried sudo texhash from the terminal?

/Anders


Re: LyX 1.6.5 claims Bera fonts not installed

2010-03-18 Thread Richard Talley
On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 1:11 AM, Anders Ekberg a...@mac.com wrote:

 On 18 mar 2010, at 00.33, Richard Talley wrote:

  Thanks for your help.
 
  I think that the indication that the Bera fonts are not installed is just
 a
  symptom of a deeper problem; I appear to have lost all font control. No
  matter what fonts I choose, I get a pdf that has the default LaTeX fonts.
  Something is badly screwed up in my TeX installation; I'm going to get
 rid
  of it and start over.
 ...

 I guess you already tried sudo texhash from the terminal?

 /Anders


Strictly speaking I shouldn't have to, as both the MacTeX installer and the
update utility do so. However, I did run it manually, just in case.

-=- Rich


Re: LyX 1.6.5 claims Bera fonts not installed

2010-03-18 Thread Anders Ekberg
On 18 mar 2010, at 00.33, Richard Talley wrote:

> On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 2:04 PM, BH  wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 3:30 PM, Richard Talley 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> +checking for package bera [bera]... yes
>> 
>> This says it has found the bera fonts. So you should have access to
>> them in Document > Settings > Fonts. (Are you sure you don't?)
>> 
>> At this point, I'm baffled.
>> 
>> BH
>> 
> 
> Thanks for your help.
> 
> I think that the indication that the Bera fonts are not installed is just a
> symptom of a deeper problem; I appear to have lost all font control. No
> matter what fonts I choose, I get a pdf that has the default LaTeX fonts.
> Something is badly screwed up in my TeX installation; I'm going to get rid
> of it and start over.
...

I guess you already tried sudo texhash from the terminal?

/Anders


Re: LyX 1.6.5 claims Bera fonts not installed

2010-03-18 Thread Richard Talley
On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 1:11 AM, Anders Ekberg  wrote:

> On 18 mar 2010, at 00.33, Richard Talley wrote:
>
> > Thanks for your help.
> >
> > I think that the indication that the Bera fonts are not installed is just
> a
> > symptom of a deeper problem; I appear to have lost all font control. No
> > matter what fonts I choose, I get a pdf that has the default LaTeX fonts.
> > Something is badly screwed up in my TeX installation; I'm going to get
> rid
> > of it and start over.
> ...
>
> I guess you already tried sudo texhash from the terminal?
>
> /Anders
>

Strictly speaking I shouldn't have to, as both the MacTeX installer and the
update utility do so. However, I did run it manually, just in case.

-=- Rich


Re: LyX 1.6.5 claims Bera fonts not installed

2010-03-17 Thread BH
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Richard Talley rich.tal...@gmail.com wrote:
 I had been running LyX 1.6.3 with MacTeX 2008 under OS X 10.5.x and created
 a number of documents using the three Bera fonts.

 Recently, I downloaded, installed and updated MacTeX 2009. I also grabbed
 the MacTeXtras; it came with LyX 1.6.5 so I installed that also.

 Now LyX doesn't see that the Bera fonts are available (they show as 'not
 installed' in Documents - Settings - Fonts). If I switch back to MacTeX
 2008 (which I have not uninstalled but would like too) and reconfigure LyX,
 these fonts still show as not installed.

 MacTeX 2008 and 2009 most definitely do come with the Bera fonts installed;
 all the correct files appear to be there.

 I really need to convince LyX 1.6.5 that these fonts are indeed installed
 and available, as I need to re-edit some documents and have them print using
 the same standards that I was already using for this series of documents.
 (And yes, I did re-run 'sudo texhash', just in case, and ran the
 LyX-installer that comes on the LyX-1.6.5-Mac-Universal.dmg.)

 Any suggestions would be appreciated. I haven't yet downgraded to LyX 1.6.3;
 I guess that might be my next step in troubleshooting.

Have you tried reconfiguring LyX? (LyX  Reconfigure) I have MacTeX
2009, and the Bera fonts are properly recognized by LyX.

BH


Re: LyX 1.6.5 claims Bera fonts not installed

2010-03-17 Thread Richard Talley
Yes, I did reconfigure LyX.  -=- Rich

On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 12:43 PM, BH bewih...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Richard Talley rich.tal...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  I had been running LyX 1.6.3 with MacTeX 2008 under OS X 10.5.x and
 created
  a number of documents using the three Bera fonts.
 
  Recently, I downloaded, installed and updated MacTeX 2009. I also grabbed
  the MacTeXtras; it came with LyX 1.6.5 so I installed that also.
 
  Now LyX doesn't see that the Bera fonts are available (they show as 'not
  installed' in Documents - Settings - Fonts). If I switch back to MacTeX
  2008 (which I have not uninstalled but would like too) and reconfigure
 LyX,
  these fonts still show as not installed.
 
  MacTeX 2008 and 2009 most definitely do come with the Bera fonts
 installed;
  all the correct files appear to be there.
 
  I really need to convince LyX 1.6.5 that these fonts are indeed installed
  and available, as I need to re-edit some documents and have them print
 using
  the same standards that I was already using for this series of documents.
  (And yes, I did re-run 'sudo texhash', just in case, and ran the
  LyX-installer that comes on the LyX-1.6.5-Mac-Universal.dmg.)
 
  Any suggestions would be appreciated. I haven't yet downgraded to LyX
 1.6.3;
  I guess that might be my next step in troubleshooting.

 Have you tried reconfiguring LyX? (LyX  Reconfigure) I have MacTeX
 2009, and the Bera fonts are properly recognized by LyX.

 BH



Re: LyX 1.6.5 claims Bera fonts not installed

2010-03-17 Thread BH
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Richard Talley rich.tal...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes, I did reconfigure LyX.  -=- Rich

1. What is your PATH Prefix? (LyX  Preferences  Paths  PATH Prefix)

2. From within Terminal.app, try:

kpsewhich bera.sty

Does it return the path to your installation of bera? (If not, then
it's a MacTeX issue.)

3. Again in Terminal.app, try:

/path/to/LyX.app/Contents/Resources/configure.py

(substituting the appropriate thing for /path/to -- the default
would be /Applications). Paste the output into an e-mail to the
list.

BH


Re: LyX 1.6.5 claims Bera fonts not installed

2010-03-17 Thread Richard Talley
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 1:18 PM, BH bewih...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Richard Talley rich.tal...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Yes, I did reconfigure LyX.  -=- Rich

 1. What is your PATH Prefix? (LyX  Preferences  Paths  PATH Prefix)


/usr/texbin:/usr/local/gwTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current:/usr/local/gwTeX/bin/i386-apple-darwin-current:/usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current:/usr/local/teTeX/bin/i386-apple-darwin-current:/sw/bin:/sw/sbin:/opt/local/teTeX/bin:/opt/local/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin




 2. From within Terminal.app, try:

 kpsewhich bera.sty

 Does it return the path to your installation of bera? (If not, then
 it's a MacTeX issue.)


Yes, it returns this:

/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/latex/bera/bera.sty



 3. Again in Terminal.app, try:

 /path/to/LyX.app/Contents/Resources/configure.py

 (substituting the appropriate thing for /path/to -- the default
 would be /Applications). Paste the output into an e-mail to the
 list.

 BH


Here's the output (same thing as appears in ~/Library/Application
Support/LyX-1.6/configure.log when I run LyX - Reconfigure).

checking for a Latex2e program...
+checking for latex...   yes
checking for a DVI postprocessing program...
+checking for pplatex...   no
checking for pLaTeX, the Japanese LaTeX...
+checking for platex...   no
checking for a Tgif viewer and editor...
+checking for tgif...   no
checking for a FIG viewer and editor...
+checking for xfig...   no
+checking for jfig3-itext.jar...   no
+checking for jfig3.jar...   no
checking for a Dia viewer and editor...
+checking for dia...   no
checking for a Grace viewer and editor...
+checking for xmgrace...   no
checking for a FEN viewer and editor...
+checking for xboard...   no
checking for a raster image viewer...
+checking for xv...   no
+checking for kview...   no
+checking for gimp-remote...   no
+checking for gimp...   no
checking for a raster image editor...
+checking for gimp-remote...   no
+checking for gimp...   no
checking for a text editor...
+checking for sensible-editor...   no
+checking for xemacs...   no
+checking for gvim...   no
+checking for kedit...   no
+checking for kwrite...   no
+checking for kate...   no
+checking for nedit...   no
+checking for gedit...   no
+checking for notepad...   no
checking for a BibTeX editor...
+checking for sensible-editor...   no
+checking for jabref...   no
+checking for JabRef...   no
+checking for pybliographic...   no
+checking for bibdesk...   no
+checking for gbib...   no
+checking for kbib...   no
+checking for kbibtex...   no
+checking for sixpack...   no
+checking for bibedit...   no
+checking for tkbibtexxemacs...   no
+checking for gvim...   no
+checking for kedit...   no
+checking for kwrite...   no
+checking for kate...   no
+checking for nedit...   no
+checking for gedit...   no
+checking for notepad...   no
checking for a Postscript previewer...
+checking for kghostview...   no
+checking for okular...   no
+checking for evince...   no
+checking for gv...   no
+checking for ghostview...   no
checking for a PDF previewer...
+checking for kpdf...   no
+checking for okular...   no
+checking for evince...   no
+checking for kghostview...   no
+checking for xpdf...   no
+checking for acrobat...   no
+checking for acroread...   no
+checking for gv...   no
+checking for ghostview...   no
checking for a DVI previewer...
+checking for xdvi...   yes
checking for an HTML previewer...
+checking for firefox...   no
+checking for mozilla...   no
+checking for netscape...   no
checking for Noteedit...
+checking for noteedit...   no
checking for an OpenDocument viewer...
+checking for swriter...   no
+checking for oowriter...   no
checking for the pdflatex program...
+checking for pdflatex...   yes
checking for a LaTeX/Noweb - LyX converter...
+checking for tex2lyx...   no
+checking for tex2lyx...   no
checking for a Noweb - LaTeX converter...
+checking for noweave...   no
checking for an HTML - LaTeX converter...
+checking for html2latex...   no
+checking for gnuhtml2latex...   no
+checking for htmltolatex...   no
+checking for java...   yes
checking for an MS Word - LaTeX converter...
+checking for wvCleanLatex...   no
checking for elyxer module...
no
checking for a LyX - HTML converter...
+checking for elyxer.py...   no
+checking for elyxer...   no
checking for a LaTeX - HTML converter...
+checking for htlatex...   yes
checking for a LaTeX - MS Word converter...
+checking for htlatex...   yes
checking for an OpenOffice.org - LaTeX converter...
+checking for w2l...   no
checking for an OpenDocument - LaTeX converter...
+checking for w2l...   no
checking for a LaTeX - Open Document converter...
+checking for oolatex...   no
+checking for mk4ht...   yes
checking for a LaTeX - RTF converter...
+checking for latex2rtf...   no
+checking for latex2rt...   no
checking for a RTF - HTML converter...
+checking for unrtf...   no
checking for a PS to PDF converter...
+checking for 

Re: LyX 1.6.5 claims Bera fonts not installed

2010-03-17 Thread BH
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 3:30 PM, Richard Talley rich.tal...@gmail.com wrote:


 On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 1:18 PM, BH bewih...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Richard Talley rich.tal...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Yes, I did reconfigure LyX.  -=- Rich

 1. What is your PATH Prefix? (LyX  Preferences  Paths  PATH Prefix)

 /usr/texbin:/usr/local/gwTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current:/usr/local/gwTeX/bin/i386-apple-darwin-current:/usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current:/usr/local/teTeX/bin/i386-apple-darwin-current:/sw/bin:/sw/sbin:/opt/local/teTeX/bin:/opt/local/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin

That's as it should be.

 2. From within Terminal.app, try:

 kpsewhich bera.sty

 Does it return the path to your installation of bera? (If not, then
 it's a MacTeX issue.)

 Yes, it returns this:
 /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/latex/bera/bera.sty

That's good.

 3. Again in Terminal.app, try:

 /path/to/LyX.app/Contents/Resources/configure.py

 (substituting the appropriate thing for /path/to -- the default
 would be /Applications). Paste the output into an e-mail to the
 list.

 Here's the output (same thing as appears in ~/Library/Application
 Support/LyX-1.6/configure.log when I run LyX - Reconfigure).

snip

 +checking for package bera [bera]... yes

This says it has found the bera fonts. So you should have access to
them in Document  Settings  Fonts. (Are you sure you don't?)

At this point, I'm baffled.

BH


Re: LyX 1.6.5 claims Bera fonts not installed

2010-03-17 Thread Richard Talley
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 2:04 PM, BH bewih...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 3:30 PM, Richard Talley rich.tal...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  +checking for package bera [bera]... yes

 This says it has found the bera fonts. So you should have access to
 them in Document  Settings  Fonts. (Are you sure you don't?)

 At this point, I'm baffled.

 BH


Thanks for your help.

I think that the indication that the Bera fonts are not installed is just a
symptom of a deeper problem; I appear to have lost all font control. No
matter what fonts I choose, I get a pdf that has the default LaTeX fonts.
Something is badly screwed up in my TeX installation; I'm going to get rid
of it and start over.

Your comments were still useful; I learned several things about trouble
shooting my installation.

-=- Rich


Re: LyX 1.6.5 claims Bera fonts not installed

2010-03-17 Thread BH
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Richard Talley rich.tal...@gmail.com wrote:
 I had been running LyX 1.6.3 with MacTeX 2008 under OS X 10.5.x and created
 a number of documents using the three Bera fonts.

 Recently, I downloaded, installed and updated MacTeX 2009. I also grabbed
 the MacTeXtras; it came with LyX 1.6.5 so I installed that also.

 Now LyX doesn't see that the Bera fonts are available (they show as 'not
 installed' in Documents - Settings - Fonts). If I switch back to MacTeX
 2008 (which I have not uninstalled but would like too) and reconfigure LyX,
 these fonts still show as not installed.

 MacTeX 2008 and 2009 most definitely do come with the Bera fonts installed;
 all the correct files appear to be there.

 I really need to convince LyX 1.6.5 that these fonts are indeed installed
 and available, as I need to re-edit some documents and have them print using
 the same standards that I was already using for this series of documents.
 (And yes, I did re-run 'sudo texhash', just in case, and ran the
 LyX-installer that comes on the LyX-1.6.5-Mac-Universal.dmg.)

 Any suggestions would be appreciated. I haven't yet downgraded to LyX 1.6.3;
 I guess that might be my next step in troubleshooting.

Have you tried reconfiguring LyX? (LyX  Reconfigure) I have MacTeX
2009, and the Bera fonts are properly recognized by LyX.

BH


Re: LyX 1.6.5 claims Bera fonts not installed

2010-03-17 Thread Richard Talley
Yes, I did reconfigure LyX.  -=- Rich

On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 12:43 PM, BH bewih...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Richard Talley rich.tal...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  I had been running LyX 1.6.3 with MacTeX 2008 under OS X 10.5.x and
 created
  a number of documents using the three Bera fonts.
 
  Recently, I downloaded, installed and updated MacTeX 2009. I also grabbed
  the MacTeXtras; it came with LyX 1.6.5 so I installed that also.
 
  Now LyX doesn't see that the Bera fonts are available (they show as 'not
  installed' in Documents - Settings - Fonts). If I switch back to MacTeX
  2008 (which I have not uninstalled but would like too) and reconfigure
 LyX,
  these fonts still show as not installed.
 
  MacTeX 2008 and 2009 most definitely do come with the Bera fonts
 installed;
  all the correct files appear to be there.
 
  I really need to convince LyX 1.6.5 that these fonts are indeed installed
  and available, as I need to re-edit some documents and have them print
 using
  the same standards that I was already using for this series of documents.
  (And yes, I did re-run 'sudo texhash', just in case, and ran the
  LyX-installer that comes on the LyX-1.6.5-Mac-Universal.dmg.)
 
  Any suggestions would be appreciated. I haven't yet downgraded to LyX
 1.6.3;
  I guess that might be my next step in troubleshooting.

 Have you tried reconfiguring LyX? (LyX  Reconfigure) I have MacTeX
 2009, and the Bera fonts are properly recognized by LyX.

 BH



Re: LyX 1.6.5 claims Bera fonts not installed

2010-03-17 Thread BH
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Richard Talley rich.tal...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes, I did reconfigure LyX.  -=- Rich

1. What is your PATH Prefix? (LyX  Preferences  Paths  PATH Prefix)

2. From within Terminal.app, try:

kpsewhich bera.sty

Does it return the path to your installation of bera? (If not, then
it's a MacTeX issue.)

3. Again in Terminal.app, try:

/path/to/LyX.app/Contents/Resources/configure.py

(substituting the appropriate thing for /path/to -- the default
would be /Applications). Paste the output into an e-mail to the
list.

BH


Re: LyX 1.6.5 claims Bera fonts not installed

2010-03-17 Thread Richard Talley
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 1:18 PM, BH bewih...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Richard Talley rich.tal...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Yes, I did reconfigure LyX.  -=- Rich

 1. What is your PATH Prefix? (LyX  Preferences  Paths  PATH Prefix)


/usr/texbin:/usr/local/gwTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current:/usr/local/gwTeX/bin/i386-apple-darwin-current:/usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current:/usr/local/teTeX/bin/i386-apple-darwin-current:/sw/bin:/sw/sbin:/opt/local/teTeX/bin:/opt/local/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin




 2. From within Terminal.app, try:

 kpsewhich bera.sty

 Does it return the path to your installation of bera? (If not, then
 it's a MacTeX issue.)


Yes, it returns this:

/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/latex/bera/bera.sty



 3. Again in Terminal.app, try:

 /path/to/LyX.app/Contents/Resources/configure.py

 (substituting the appropriate thing for /path/to -- the default
 would be /Applications). Paste the output into an e-mail to the
 list.

 BH


Here's the output (same thing as appears in ~/Library/Application
Support/LyX-1.6/configure.log when I run LyX - Reconfigure).

checking for a Latex2e program...
+checking for latex...   yes
checking for a DVI postprocessing program...
+checking for pplatex...   no
checking for pLaTeX, the Japanese LaTeX...
+checking for platex...   no
checking for a Tgif viewer and editor...
+checking for tgif...   no
checking for a FIG viewer and editor...
+checking for xfig...   no
+checking for jfig3-itext.jar...   no
+checking for jfig3.jar...   no
checking for a Dia viewer and editor...
+checking for dia...   no
checking for a Grace viewer and editor...
+checking for xmgrace...   no
checking for a FEN viewer and editor...
+checking for xboard...   no
checking for a raster image viewer...
+checking for xv...   no
+checking for kview...   no
+checking for gimp-remote...   no
+checking for gimp...   no
checking for a raster image editor...
+checking for gimp-remote...   no
+checking for gimp...   no
checking for a text editor...
+checking for sensible-editor...   no
+checking for xemacs...   no
+checking for gvim...   no
+checking for kedit...   no
+checking for kwrite...   no
+checking for kate...   no
+checking for nedit...   no
+checking for gedit...   no
+checking for notepad...   no
checking for a BibTeX editor...
+checking for sensible-editor...   no
+checking for jabref...   no
+checking for JabRef...   no
+checking for pybliographic...   no
+checking for bibdesk...   no
+checking for gbib...   no
+checking for kbib...   no
+checking for kbibtex...   no
+checking for sixpack...   no
+checking for bibedit...   no
+checking for tkbibtexxemacs...   no
+checking for gvim...   no
+checking for kedit...   no
+checking for kwrite...   no
+checking for kate...   no
+checking for nedit...   no
+checking for gedit...   no
+checking for notepad...   no
checking for a Postscript previewer...
+checking for kghostview...   no
+checking for okular...   no
+checking for evince...   no
+checking for gv...   no
+checking for ghostview...   no
checking for a PDF previewer...
+checking for kpdf...   no
+checking for okular...   no
+checking for evince...   no
+checking for kghostview...   no
+checking for xpdf...   no
+checking for acrobat...   no
+checking for acroread...   no
+checking for gv...   no
+checking for ghostview...   no
checking for a DVI previewer...
+checking for xdvi...   yes
checking for an HTML previewer...
+checking for firefox...   no
+checking for mozilla...   no
+checking for netscape...   no
checking for Noteedit...
+checking for noteedit...   no
checking for an OpenDocument viewer...
+checking for swriter...   no
+checking for oowriter...   no
checking for the pdflatex program...
+checking for pdflatex...   yes
checking for a LaTeX/Noweb - LyX converter...
+checking for tex2lyx...   no
+checking for tex2lyx...   no
checking for a Noweb - LaTeX converter...
+checking for noweave...   no
checking for an HTML - LaTeX converter...
+checking for html2latex...   no
+checking for gnuhtml2latex...   no
+checking for htmltolatex...   no
+checking for java...   yes
checking for an MS Word - LaTeX converter...
+checking for wvCleanLatex...   no
checking for elyxer module...
no
checking for a LyX - HTML converter...
+checking for elyxer.py...   no
+checking for elyxer...   no
checking for a LaTeX - HTML converter...
+checking for htlatex...   yes
checking for a LaTeX - MS Word converter...
+checking for htlatex...   yes
checking for an OpenOffice.org - LaTeX converter...
+checking for w2l...   no
checking for an OpenDocument - LaTeX converter...
+checking for w2l...   no
checking for a LaTeX - Open Document converter...
+checking for oolatex...   no
+checking for mk4ht...   yes
checking for a LaTeX - RTF converter...
+checking for latex2rtf...   no
+checking for latex2rt...   no
checking for a RTF - HTML converter...
+checking for unrtf...   no
checking for a PS to PDF converter...
+checking for 

Re: LyX 1.6.5 claims Bera fonts not installed

2010-03-17 Thread BH
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 3:30 PM, Richard Talley rich.tal...@gmail.com wrote:


 On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 1:18 PM, BH bewih...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Richard Talley rich.tal...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Yes, I did reconfigure LyX.  -=- Rich

 1. What is your PATH Prefix? (LyX  Preferences  Paths  PATH Prefix)

 /usr/texbin:/usr/local/gwTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current:/usr/local/gwTeX/bin/i386-apple-darwin-current:/usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current:/usr/local/teTeX/bin/i386-apple-darwin-current:/sw/bin:/sw/sbin:/opt/local/teTeX/bin:/opt/local/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin

That's as it should be.

 2. From within Terminal.app, try:

 kpsewhich bera.sty

 Does it return the path to your installation of bera? (If not, then
 it's a MacTeX issue.)

 Yes, it returns this:
 /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/latex/bera/bera.sty

That's good.

 3. Again in Terminal.app, try:

 /path/to/LyX.app/Contents/Resources/configure.py

 (substituting the appropriate thing for /path/to -- the default
 would be /Applications). Paste the output into an e-mail to the
 list.

 Here's the output (same thing as appears in ~/Library/Application
 Support/LyX-1.6/configure.log when I run LyX - Reconfigure).

snip

 +checking for package bera [bera]... yes

This says it has found the bera fonts. So you should have access to
them in Document  Settings  Fonts. (Are you sure you don't?)

At this point, I'm baffled.

BH


Re: LyX 1.6.5 claims Bera fonts not installed

2010-03-17 Thread Richard Talley
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 2:04 PM, BH bewih...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 3:30 PM, Richard Talley rich.tal...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  +checking for package bera [bera]... yes

 This says it has found the bera fonts. So you should have access to
 them in Document  Settings  Fonts. (Are you sure you don't?)

 At this point, I'm baffled.

 BH


Thanks for your help.

I think that the indication that the Bera fonts are not installed is just a
symptom of a deeper problem; I appear to have lost all font control. No
matter what fonts I choose, I get a pdf that has the default LaTeX fonts.
Something is badly screwed up in my TeX installation; I'm going to get rid
of it and start over.

Your comments were still useful; I learned several things about trouble
shooting my installation.

-=- Rich


Re: LyX 1.6.5 claims Bera fonts not installed

2010-03-17 Thread BH
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Richard Talley  wrote:
> I had been running LyX 1.6.3 with MacTeX 2008 under OS X 10.5.x and created
> a number of documents using the three Bera fonts.
>
> Recently, I downloaded, installed and updated MacTeX 2009. I also grabbed
> the MacTeXtras; it came with LyX 1.6.5 so I installed that also.
>
> Now LyX doesn't see that the Bera fonts are available (they show as 'not
> installed' in Documents -> Settings -> Fonts). If I switch back to MacTeX
> 2008 (which I have not uninstalled but would like too) and reconfigure LyX,
> these fonts still show as not installed.
>
> MacTeX 2008 and 2009 most definitely do come with the Bera fonts installed;
> all the correct files appear to be there.
>
> I really need to convince LyX 1.6.5 that these fonts are indeed installed
> and available, as I need to re-edit some documents and have them print using
> the same standards that I was already using for this series of documents.
> (And yes, I did re-run 'sudo texhash', just in case, and ran the
> LyX-installer that comes on the LyX-1.6.5-Mac-Universal.dmg.)
>
> Any suggestions would be appreciated. I haven't yet downgraded to LyX 1.6.3;
> I guess that might be my next step in troubleshooting.

Have you tried reconfiguring LyX? (LyX > Reconfigure) I have MacTeX
2009, and the Bera fonts are properly recognized by LyX.

BH


Re: LyX 1.6.5 claims Bera fonts not installed

2010-03-17 Thread Richard Talley
Yes, I did reconfigure LyX.  -=- Rich

On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 12:43 PM, BH  wrote:

> On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Richard Talley 
> wrote:
> > I had been running LyX 1.6.3 with MacTeX 2008 under OS X 10.5.x and
> created
> > a number of documents using the three Bera fonts.
> >
> > Recently, I downloaded, installed and updated MacTeX 2009. I also grabbed
> > the MacTeXtras; it came with LyX 1.6.5 so I installed that also.
> >
> > Now LyX doesn't see that the Bera fonts are available (they show as 'not
> > installed' in Documents -> Settings -> Fonts). If I switch back to MacTeX
> > 2008 (which I have not uninstalled but would like too) and reconfigure
> LyX,
> > these fonts still show as not installed.
> >
> > MacTeX 2008 and 2009 most definitely do come with the Bera fonts
> installed;
> > all the correct files appear to be there.
> >
> > I really need to convince LyX 1.6.5 that these fonts are indeed installed
> > and available, as I need to re-edit some documents and have them print
> using
> > the same standards that I was already using for this series of documents.
> > (And yes, I did re-run 'sudo texhash', just in case, and ran the
> > LyX-installer that comes on the LyX-1.6.5-Mac-Universal.dmg.)
> >
> > Any suggestions would be appreciated. I haven't yet downgraded to LyX
> 1.6.3;
> > I guess that might be my next step in troubleshooting.
>
> Have you tried reconfiguring LyX? (LyX > Reconfigure) I have MacTeX
> 2009, and the Bera fonts are properly recognized by LyX.
>
> BH
>


Re: LyX 1.6.5 claims Bera fonts not installed

2010-03-17 Thread BH
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Richard Talley  wrote:
> Yes, I did reconfigure LyX.  -=- Rich

1. What is your PATH Prefix? (LyX > Preferences > Paths > PATH Prefix)

2. From within Terminal.app, try:

kpsewhich bera.sty

Does it return the path to your installation of bera? (If not, then
it's a MacTeX issue.)

3. Again in Terminal.app, try:

/path/to/LyX.app/Contents/Resources/configure.py

(substituting the appropriate thing for "/path/to" -- the default
would be "/Applications"). Paste the output into an e-mail to the
list.

BH


Re: LyX 1.6.5 claims Bera fonts not installed

2010-03-17 Thread Richard Talley
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 1:18 PM, BH  wrote:

> On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Richard Talley 
> wrote:
> > Yes, I did reconfigure LyX.  -=- Rich
>
> 1. What is your PATH Prefix? (LyX > Preferences > Paths > PATH Prefix)
>

/usr/texbin:/usr/local/gwTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current:/usr/local/gwTeX/bin/i386-apple-darwin-current:/usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current:/usr/local/teTeX/bin/i386-apple-darwin-current:/sw/bin:/sw/sbin:/opt/local/teTeX/bin:/opt/local/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin



>
> 2. From within Terminal.app, try:
>
> kpsewhich bera.sty
>
> Does it return the path to your installation of bera? (If not, then
> it's a MacTeX issue.)
>

Yes, it returns this:

/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/latex/bera/bera.sty


>
> 3. Again in Terminal.app, try:
>
> /path/to/LyX.app/Contents/Resources/configure.py
>
> (substituting the appropriate thing for "/path/to" -- the default
> would be "/Applications"). Paste the output into an e-mail to the
> list.
>
> BH
>

Here's the output (same thing as appears in ~/Library/Application
Support/LyX-1.6/configure.log when I run LyX -> Reconfigure).

checking for a Latex2e program...
+checking for "latex"...   yes
checking for a DVI postprocessing program...
+checking for "pplatex"...   no
checking for pLaTeX, the Japanese LaTeX...
+checking for "platex"...   no
checking for a Tgif viewer and editor...
+checking for "tgif"...   no
checking for a FIG viewer and editor...
+checking for "xfig"...   no
+checking for "jfig3-itext.jar"...   no
+checking for "jfig3.jar"...   no
checking for a Dia viewer and editor...
+checking for "dia"...   no
checking for a Grace viewer and editor...
+checking for "xmgrace"...   no
checking for a FEN viewer and editor...
+checking for "xboard"...   no
checking for a raster image viewer...
+checking for "xv"...   no
+checking for "kview"...   no
+checking for "gimp-remote"...   no
+checking for "gimp"...   no
checking for a raster image editor...
+checking for "gimp-remote"...   no
+checking for "gimp"...   no
checking for a text editor...
+checking for "sensible-editor"...   no
+checking for "xemacs"...   no
+checking for "gvim"...   no
+checking for "kedit"...   no
+checking for "kwrite"...   no
+checking for "kate"...   no
+checking for "nedit"...   no
+checking for "gedit"...   no
+checking for "notepad"...   no
checking for a BibTeX editor...
+checking for "sensible-editor"...   no
+checking for "jabref"...   no
+checking for "JabRef"...   no
+checking for "pybliographic"...   no
+checking for "bibdesk"...   no
+checking for "gbib"...   no
+checking for "kbib"...   no
+checking for "kbibtex"...   no
+checking for "sixpack"...   no
+checking for "bibedit"...   no
+checking for "tkbibtexxemacs"...   no
+checking for "gvim"...   no
+checking for "kedit"...   no
+checking for "kwrite"...   no
+checking for "kate"...   no
+checking for "nedit"...   no
+checking for "gedit"...   no
+checking for "notepad"...   no
checking for a Postscript previewer...
+checking for "kghostview"...   no
+checking for "okular"...   no
+checking for "evince"...   no
+checking for "gv"...   no
+checking for "ghostview"...   no
checking for a PDF previewer...
+checking for "kpdf"...   no
+checking for "okular"...   no
+checking for "evince"...   no
+checking for "kghostview"...   no
+checking for "xpdf"...   no
+checking for "acrobat"...   no
+checking for "acroread"...   no
+checking for "gv"...   no
+checking for "ghostview"...   no
checking for a DVI previewer...
+checking for "xdvi"...   yes
checking for an HTML previewer...
+checking for "firefox"...   no
+checking for "mozilla"...   no
+checking for "netscape"...   no
checking for Noteedit...
+checking for "noteedit"...   no
checking for an OpenDocument viewer...
+checking for "swriter"...   no
+checking for "oowriter"...   no
checking for the pdflatex program...
+checking for "pdflatex"...   yes
checking for a LaTeX/Noweb -> LyX converter...
+checking for "tex2lyx"...   no
+checking for "tex2lyx"...   no
checking for a Noweb -> LaTeX converter...
+checking for "noweave"...   no
checking for an HTML -> LaTeX converter...
+checking for "html2latex"...   no
+checking for "gnuhtml2latex"...   no
+checking for "htmltolatex"...   no
+checking for "java"...   yes
checking for an MS Word -> LaTeX converter...
+checking for "wvCleanLatex"...   no
checking for "elyxer module"...
no
checking for a LyX -> HTML converter...
+checking for "elyxer.py"...   no
+checking for "elyxer"...   no
checking for a LaTeX -> HTML converter...
+checking for "htlatex"...   yes
checking for a LaTeX -> MS Word converter...
+checking for "htlatex"...   yes
checking for an OpenOffice.org -> LaTeX converter...
+checking for "w2l"...   no
checking for an OpenDocument -> LaTeX converter...
+checking for "w2l"...   no
checking for a LaTeX -> Open Document converter...
+checking for "oolatex"...   no
+checking for "mk4ht"...   yes
checking for a 

Re: LyX 1.6.5 claims Bera fonts not installed

2010-03-17 Thread BH
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 3:30 PM, Richard Talley  wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 1:18 PM, BH  wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Richard Talley 
>> wrote:
>> > Yes, I did reconfigure LyX.  -=- Rich
>>
>> 1. What is your PATH Prefix? (LyX > Preferences > Paths > PATH Prefix)
>
> /usr/texbin:/usr/local/gwTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current:/usr/local/gwTeX/bin/i386-apple-darwin-current:/usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current:/usr/local/teTeX/bin/i386-apple-darwin-current:/sw/bin:/sw/sbin:/opt/local/teTeX/bin:/opt/local/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin

That's as it should be.

>> 2. From within Terminal.app, try:
>>
>> kpsewhich bera.sty
>>
>> Does it return the path to your installation of bera? (If not, then
>> it's a MacTeX issue.)
>
> Yes, it returns this:
> /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/latex/bera/bera.sty

That's good.

>> 3. Again in Terminal.app, try:
>>
>> /path/to/LyX.app/Contents/Resources/configure.py
>>
>> (substituting the appropriate thing for "/path/to" -- the default
>> would be "/Applications"). Paste the output into an e-mail to the
>> list.
>
> Here's the output (same thing as appears in ~/Library/Application
> Support/LyX-1.6/configure.log when I run LyX -> Reconfigure).



> +checking for package bera [bera]... yes

This says it has found the bera fonts. So you should have access to
them in Document > Settings > Fonts. (Are you sure you don't?)

At this point, I'm baffled.

BH


Re: LyX 1.6.5 claims Bera fonts not installed

2010-03-17 Thread Richard Talley
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 2:04 PM, BH  wrote:

> On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 3:30 PM, Richard Talley 
> wrote:
> >
> > +checking for package bera [bera]... yes
>
> This says it has found the bera fonts. So you should have access to
> them in Document > Settings > Fonts. (Are you sure you don't?)
>
> At this point, I'm baffled.
>
> BH
>

Thanks for your help.

I think that the indication that the Bera fonts are not installed is just a
symptom of a deeper problem; I appear to have lost all font control. No
matter what fonts I choose, I get a pdf that has the default LaTeX fonts.
Something is badly screwed up in my TeX installation; I'm going to get rid
of it and start over.

Your comments were still useful; I learned several things about trouble
shooting my installation.

-=- Rich


Re: lyx 1.6.5 will not open lyx 2 docs

2010-03-05 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2010-03-04, William Seager wrote:
 On  Thursday 04 March 2010  at  10:05,  Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW wrote:

 Yes, it works.

 There should be a .lyx16 file next to the original .lyx file, which can
 be opened by LyX 1.6.5.

 Vincent

 thanks - that works perfectly (I just didn't see the file which is created
 without any notice to the user)


This is why I would really want to have a prompt to select a file name
when exporting.

Günter



Re: lyx 1.6.5 will not open lyx 2 docs

2010-03-05 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2010-03-04, William Seager wrote:
 On  Thursday 04 March 2010  at  10:05,  Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW wrote:

 Yes, it works.

 There should be a .lyx16 file next to the original .lyx file, which can
 be opened by LyX 1.6.5.

 Vincent

 thanks - that works perfectly (I just didn't see the file which is created
 without any notice to the user)


This is why I would really want to have a prompt to select a file name
when exporting.

Günter



Re: lyx 1.6.5 will not open lyx 2 docs

2010-03-05 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2010-03-04, William Seager wrote:
> On  Thursday 04 March 2010  at  10:05,  Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW wrote:

>> Yes, it works.

>> There should be a .lyx16 file next to the original .lyx file, which can
>> be opened by LyX 1.6.5.

>> Vincent

> thanks - that works perfectly (I just didn't see the file which is created
> without any notice to the user)


This is why I would really want to have a prompt to select a file name
when exporting.

Günter



RE: lyx 1.6.5 will not open lyx 2 docs

2010-03-04 Thread Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW
Now I cannot open that document in 1.6.5 - I just get an error message
about lyx2lyx failure: the lyx2lyx script failed to convert it

The option to export to lyx-1.6.5 does nothing that I can discern (is
it supposed to work?)


Yes, it works. 

There should be a .lyx16 file next to the original .lyx file, which can
be opened by LyX 1.6.5.

Vincent


Re: lyx 1.6.5 will not open lyx 2 docs

2010-03-04 Thread William Seager
On  Thursday 04 March 2010  at  10:05,  Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW wrote:

 Yes, it works.
 
 There should be a .lyx16 file next to the original .lyx file, which can
 be opened by LyX 1.6.5.
 
 Vincent

thanks - that works perfectly (I just didn't see the file which is created
without any notice to the user)

-- 
William Seager
University of Toronto Scarborough
www.utsc.utoronto.ca/~seager


Re: lyx 1.6.5 will not open lyx 2 docs

2010-03-04 Thread Uwe Stöhr

William Seager schrieb:


Sorry if this is a duplicate but ... I made the mistake of
installing lyx 2 svn and changing a document that
I should not have. 


Now I cannot open that document in 1.6.5 - I just
get an error message about lyx2lyx failure: the
lyx2lyx script failed to convert it

The option to export to lyx-1.6.5 does nothing that I
can discern (is it supposed to work?)


It works well for me. Can you please send a _small_ LyX example file 
that you created with LyX 2.0svn whose export to 1.6.x fails?


IMPORTANT NOTE: LyX 2.0svn is not even in beta state so don't expect it 
to work properly. DON'T USE LyX 2.0svn FOR REAL LIFE AND ANY KIND OF 
NON-TESTING DOCUMENTS!	


regards Uwe


RE: lyx 1.6.5 will not open lyx 2 docs

2010-03-04 Thread Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW
Now I cannot open that document in 1.6.5 - I just get an error message
about lyx2lyx failure: the lyx2lyx script failed to convert it

The option to export to lyx-1.6.5 does nothing that I can discern (is
it supposed to work?)


Yes, it works. 

There should be a .lyx16 file next to the original .lyx file, which can
be opened by LyX 1.6.5.

Vincent


Re: lyx 1.6.5 will not open lyx 2 docs

2010-03-04 Thread William Seager
On  Thursday 04 March 2010  at  10:05,  Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW wrote:

 Yes, it works.
 
 There should be a .lyx16 file next to the original .lyx file, which can
 be opened by LyX 1.6.5.
 
 Vincent

thanks - that works perfectly (I just didn't see the file which is created
without any notice to the user)

-- 
William Seager
University of Toronto Scarborough
www.utsc.utoronto.ca/~seager


Re: lyx 1.6.5 will not open lyx 2 docs

2010-03-04 Thread Uwe Stöhr

William Seager schrieb:


Sorry if this is a duplicate but ... I made the mistake of
installing lyx 2 svn and changing a document that
I should not have. 


Now I cannot open that document in 1.6.5 - I just
get an error message about lyx2lyx failure: the
lyx2lyx script failed to convert it

The option to export to lyx-1.6.5 does nothing that I
can discern (is it supposed to work?)


It works well for me. Can you please send a _small_ LyX example file 
that you created with LyX 2.0svn whose export to 1.6.x fails?


IMPORTANT NOTE: LyX 2.0svn is not even in beta state so don't expect it 
to work properly. DON'T USE LyX 2.0svn FOR REAL LIFE AND ANY KIND OF 
NON-TESTING DOCUMENTS!	


regards Uwe


RE: lyx 1.6.5 will not open lyx 2 docs

2010-03-04 Thread Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW
>Now I cannot open that document in 1.6.5 - I just get an error message
>about lyx2lyx failure: "the lyx2lyx script failed to convert it"
>
>The option to export to lyx-1.6.5 does nothing that I can discern (is
it supposed to work?)
>

Yes, it works. 

There should be a .lyx16 file next to the original .lyx file, which can
be opened by LyX 1.6.5.

Vincent


Re: lyx 1.6.5 will not open lyx 2 docs

2010-03-04 Thread William Seager
On  Thursday 04 March 2010  at  10:05,  Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW wrote:

> Yes, it works.
> 
> There should be a .lyx16 file next to the original .lyx file, which can
> be opened by LyX 1.6.5.
> 
> Vincent

thanks - that works perfectly (I just didn't see the file which is created
without any notice to the user)

-- 
William Seager
University of Toronto Scarborough
www.utsc.utoronto.ca/~seager


Re: lyx 1.6.5 will not open lyx 2 docs

2010-03-04 Thread Uwe Stöhr

William Seager schrieb:


Sorry if this is a duplicate but ... I made the mistake of
installing lyx 2 svn and changing a document that
I should not have. 


Now I cannot open that document in 1.6.5 - I just
get an error message about lyx2lyx failure: "the
lyx2lyx script failed to convert it"

The option to export to lyx-1.6.5 does nothing that I
can discern (is it supposed to work?)


It works well for me. Can you please send a _small_ LyX example file 
that you created with LyX 2.0svn whose export to 1.6.x fails?


IMPORTANT NOTE: LyX 2.0svn is not even in beta state so don't expect it 
to work properly. DON'T USE LyX 2.0svn FOR REAL LIFE AND ANY KIND OF 
NON-TESTING DOCUMENTS!	


regards Uwe


Re: lyx 1.6.5 can't load pdf images on Mac OS X 10.6.2

2010-02-16 Thread Stephen Buonopane

On Feb 16, 2010, at 8:36 AM, Francesco Turci wrote:


Hallo,
	i’m using Lyx on Mac OS X 10.6.2. Everything seems to work  
properly, but the  image converters don’t seem to work: i’ve  
included some pdf images in my document (i tried with sme ps too)  
but Lyx doesn’t load them (it says “Error converting to loadable  
format”). Nevertheless, if i export to a pdf the Lyx document, i  
obtain the correct file with the original figures. What’s going on?





If none of the graphics formats work then you have a problem with the  
ImageMagick package and convert command

Does the convert command work from the terminal window?
Try posting some of the error messages that show up in the terminal  
window.


If only pdf files won't preview, and you have TexLive 2009 and gs  
8.70, the here is the problem and work-around from a previous thread...


This seems to be a result of the bug reported here
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/imagemagick/+bug/487637

Copy the script convertDefault.py from  /Applications/LyX.app/Contents/ 
Resources/scripts


Comment out the lines
if sys.argv[1][:4] == 'pdf:' and (version = 0x060206 or gm):
   opts = '-define pdf:use-cropbox=true ' + opts

On a Mac, the script goes in
/Users/username/Library/Application\ Support/LyX-1.6/scripts



Re: lyx 1.6.5 can't load pdf images on Mac OS X 10.6.2

2010-02-16 Thread Stephen Buonopane

On Feb 16, 2010, at 8:36 AM, Francesco Turci wrote:


Hallo,
	i’m using Lyx on Mac OS X 10.6.2. Everything seems to work  
properly, but the  image converters don’t seem to work: i’ve  
included some pdf images in my document (i tried with sme ps too)  
but Lyx doesn’t load them (it says “Error converting to loadable  
format”). Nevertheless, if i export to a pdf the Lyx document, i  
obtain the correct file with the original figures. What’s going on?





If none of the graphics formats work then you have a problem with the  
ImageMagick package and convert command

Does the convert command work from the terminal window?
Try posting some of the error messages that show up in the terminal  
window.


If only pdf files won't preview, and you have TexLive 2009 and gs  
8.70, the here is the problem and work-around from a previous thread...


This seems to be a result of the bug reported here
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/imagemagick/+bug/487637

Copy the script convertDefault.py from  /Applications/LyX.app/Contents/ 
Resources/scripts


Comment out the lines
if sys.argv[1][:4] == 'pdf:' and (version = 0x060206 or gm):
   opts = '-define pdf:use-cropbox=true ' + opts

On a Mac, the script goes in
/Users/username/Library/Application\ Support/LyX-1.6/scripts



Re: lyx 1.6.5 can't load pdf images on Mac OS X 10.6.2

2010-02-16 Thread Stephen Buonopane

On Feb 16, 2010, at 8:36 AM, Francesco Turci wrote:


Hallo,
	i’m using Lyx on Mac OS X 10.6.2. Everything seems to work  
properly, but the  image converters don’t seem to work: i’ve  
included some pdf images in my document (i tried with sme ps too)  
but Lyx doesn’t load them (it says “Error converting to loadable  
format”). Nevertheless, if i export to a pdf the Lyx document, i  
obtain the correct file with the original figures. What’s going on?





If none of the graphics formats work then you have a problem with the  
ImageMagick package and convert command

Does the convert command work from the terminal window?
Try posting some of the error messages that show up in the terminal  
window.


If only pdf files won't preview, and you have TexLive 2009 and gs  
8.70, the here is the problem and work-around from a previous thread...


This seems to be a result of the bug reported here
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/imagemagick/+bug/487637

Copy the script convertDefault.py from  /Applications/LyX.app/Contents/ 
Resources/scripts


Comment out the lines
if sys.argv[1][:4] == 'pdf:' and (version >= 0x060206 or gm):
   opts = '-define pdf:use-cropbox=true ' + opts

On a Mac, the script goes in
/Users/username/Library/Application\ Support/LyX-1.6/scripts



Re: Lyx 1.6.5

2010-01-18 Thread E. Kaplan
Thanks.  I was following the advice I got here, and it is good to know 
about the incompatibility between *ubuntu and Debian.


EK



Sven Hoexter wrote:

On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 09:22:42PM -0500, rgheck wrote:

Hi,

  

You should report this kind of issue to the debian lists. Though I
think the debian maintainers read this list, they manage the
packages, not us.



Please don't! *buntu and Debian are not binary compatible so you'll
always run into such problems if you try to install packages from the Debian
archive on your *ubuntu.

Sven
  


Re: Lyx 1.6.5

2010-01-18 Thread E. Kaplan
Thanks.  I was following the advice I got here, and it is good to know 
about the incompatibility between *ubuntu and Debian.


EK



Sven Hoexter wrote:

On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 09:22:42PM -0500, rgheck wrote:

Hi,

  

You should report this kind of issue to the debian lists. Though I
think the debian maintainers read this list, they manage the
packages, not us.



Please don't! *buntu and Debian are not binary compatible so you'll
always run into such problems if you try to install packages from the Debian
archive on your *ubuntu.

Sven
  


Re: > Lyx 1.6.5

2010-01-18 Thread E. Kaplan
Thanks.  I was following the advice I got here, and it is good to know 
about the incompatibility between *ubuntu and Debian.


EK



Sven Hoexter wrote:

On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 09:22:42PM -0500, rgheck wrote:

Hi,

  

You should report this kind of issue to the debian lists. Though I
think the debian maintainers read this list, they manage the
packages, not us.



Please don't! *buntu and Debian are not binary compatible so you'll
always run into such problems if you try to install packages from the Debian
archive on your *ubuntu.

Sven
  


Re: lyx 1.6.5 for linux 64

2010-01-17 Thread Liviu Andronic
On 1/16/10, EK ehud.kap...@mssm.edu wrote:
 Where can I find lyx 1.6.5 for linux 64, preferably as a .deb package?
  Kubuntu only sports 1.6.4

On Debian [1]?
Liviu

[1] http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages


Re: Lyx 1.6.5

2010-01-17 Thread rgheck

On 01/17/2010 08:06 PM, E. Kaplan wrote:

What am I doing wrong?

I tried to install Lyx 1.6.5.1 for Kubuntu 64 bits using the deb 
package from Debian.
I uninstalled 1.6.4, and installed the two deb packages: lyx 1.6.5.1 
and lyx-common 1.6.5.1.
I kept getting an error message: Dependency is not satisfiable: 
libqtcore4
I reinstalled libqtcore4, but it did not help.  I had to re-install 
lyx 1.6.4  ;-(


You should report this kind of issue to the debian lists. Though I think 
the debian maintainers read this list, they manage the packages, not us.


rh



Re: lyx 1.6.5 for linux 64

2010-01-17 Thread Liviu Andronic
On 1/16/10, EK ehud.kap...@mssm.edu wrote:
 Where can I find lyx 1.6.5 for linux 64, preferably as a .deb package?
  Kubuntu only sports 1.6.4

On Debian [1]?
Liviu

[1] http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages


Re: Lyx 1.6.5

2010-01-17 Thread rgheck

On 01/17/2010 08:06 PM, E. Kaplan wrote:

What am I doing wrong?

I tried to install Lyx 1.6.5.1 for Kubuntu 64 bits using the deb 
package from Debian.
I uninstalled 1.6.4, and installed the two deb packages: lyx 1.6.5.1 
and lyx-common 1.6.5.1.
I kept getting an error message: Dependency is not satisfiable: 
libqtcore4
I reinstalled libqtcore4, but it did not help.  I had to re-install 
lyx 1.6.4  ;-(


You should report this kind of issue to the debian lists. Though I think 
the debian maintainers read this list, they manage the packages, not us.


rh



Re: lyx 1.6.5 for linux 64

2010-01-17 Thread Liviu Andronic
On 1/16/10, EK  wrote:
> Where can I find lyx 1.6.5 for linux 64, preferably as a .deb package?
>  Kubuntu only sports 1.6.4
>
On Debian [1]?
Liviu

[1] http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages


Re: > Lyx 1.6.5

2010-01-17 Thread rgheck

On 01/17/2010 08:06 PM, E. Kaplan wrote:

What am I doing wrong?

I tried to install Lyx 1.6.5.1 for Kubuntu 64 bits using the deb 
package from Debian.
I uninstalled 1.6.4, and installed the two deb packages: lyx 1.6.5.1 
and lyx-common 1.6.5.1.
I kept getting an error message: Dependency is not satisfiable: 
libqtcore4
I reinstalled libqtcore4, but it did not help.  I had to re-install 
lyx 1.6.4  ;-(


You should report this kind of issue to the debian lists. Though I think 
the debian maintainers read this list, they manage the packages, not us.


rh



Re: LyX 1.6.5 freeze

2009-12-16 Thread rgheck

On 12/16/2009 11:40 AM, lyxtex wrote:

Hello everybody

When I try to open a LyX-Document on a network drive LyX opens very slowly
and then freezes. All other documents on the drive (pdf, word and such) can
be opened without a problem. And LyX documents on other drives can also be
opened without any problem. It's just the ones on the network drive. Does
anybody know how to possibly resolve this?

   

What OS are you using? How is the network drive mounted?

rh



Re: LyX 1.6.5 freeze

2009-12-16 Thread rgheck

On 12/16/2009 11:40 AM, lyxtex wrote:

Hello everybody

When I try to open a LyX-Document on a network drive LyX opens very slowly
and then freezes. All other documents on the drive (pdf, word and such) can
be opened without a problem. And LyX documents on other drives can also be
opened without any problem. It's just the ones on the network drive. Does
anybody know how to possibly resolve this?

   

What OS are you using? How is the network drive mounted?

rh



Re: LyX 1.6.5 freeze

2009-12-16 Thread rgheck

On 12/16/2009 11:40 AM, lyxtex wrote:

Hello everybody

When I try to open a LyX-Document on a network drive LyX opens very slowly
and then freezes. All other documents on the drive (pdf, word and such) can
be opened without a problem. And LyX documents on other drives can also be
opened without any problem. It's just the ones on the network drive. Does
anybody know how to possibly resolve this?

   

What OS are you using? How is the network drive mounted?

rh



Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

2009-12-14 Thread Olivier Ripoll

Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote:

Uwe Stöhr schreef:

Am 13.12.2009 14:10, schrieb Vincent van Ravesteijn:


LyX is programmed in a way that a console is always started. My and
also the standard installer hides it immediately.


The standard installer doesn't open this console window.


Ok, I see some extra movement in the task bar when opening LyX, .. 
that's all.


I believe that with your installer, one can really see a window popping 
up (or two).


Well, it's three in fact: first two windows open and close quickly, then 
one opens and stays for quite a while. That's probably the one most 
people complain about. this one opens also if you use lyxLauncher.exe or 
lyx.exe.


If you change the lyx.bat start command with /MIN and/or /B, the 2 
first windows will actually stay longer (IOW don't do that ;-) ).


Note that it's unclear to me why such a minor cosmetic problem who lead 
to prefer one installer over the other. Uwe's installer has the 
advantage of being out sometimes up to 1 week before the other one. 
That's quite a significant bonus if you are waiting for the new version 
because you have a nasty problem (crash, etc.).


Best regards,

Olivier

PS: I also remember that there is a message about installing PyWin or 
something with a similar name to avoid the console. Could that be a 
difference between installers ?




Vincent






Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

2009-12-14 Thread Olivier Ripoll

Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote:

Uwe Stöhr schreef:

Am 13.12.2009 14:10, schrieb Vincent van Ravesteijn:


LyX is programmed in a way that a console is always started. My and
also the standard installer hides it immediately.


The standard installer doesn't open this console window.


Ok, I see some extra movement in the task bar when opening LyX, .. 
that's all.


I believe that with your installer, one can really see a window popping 
up (or two).


Well, it's three in fact: first two windows open and close quickly, then 
one opens and stays for quite a while. That's probably the one most 
people complain about. this one opens also if you use lyxLauncher.exe or 
lyx.exe.


If you change the lyx.bat start command with /MIN and/or /B, the 2 
first windows will actually stay longer (IOW don't do that ;-) ).


Note that it's unclear to me why such a minor cosmetic problem who lead 
to prefer one installer over the other. Uwe's installer has the 
advantage of being out sometimes up to 1 week before the other one. 
That's quite a significant bonus if you are waiting for the new version 
because you have a nasty problem (crash, etc.).


Best regards,

Olivier

PS: I also remember that there is a message about installing PyWin or 
something with a similar name to avoid the console. Could that be a 
difference between installers ?




Vincent






Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

2009-12-14 Thread Olivier Ripoll

Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote:

Uwe Stöhr schreef:

Am 13.12.2009 14:10, schrieb Vincent van Ravesteijn:


LyX is programmed in a way that a console is always started. My and
also the standard installer hides it immediately.


The standard installer doesn't open this console window.


Ok, I see some extra movement in the task bar when opening LyX, .. 
that's all.


I believe that with your installer, one can really see a window popping 
up (or two).


Well, it's three in fact: first two windows open and close quickly, then 
one opens and stays for quite a while. That's probably the one most 
people complain about. this one opens also if you use lyxLauncher.exe or 
lyx.exe.


If you change the lyx.bat start command with "/MIN" and/or "/B", the 2 
first windows will actually stay longer (IOW don't do that ;-) ).


Note that it's unclear to me why such a minor cosmetic problem who lead 
to prefer one installer over the other. Uwe's installer has the 
advantage of being out sometimes up to 1 week before the other one. 
That's quite a significant bonus if you are waiting for the new version 
because you have a nasty problem (crash, etc.).


Best regards,

Olivier

PS: I also remember that there is a message about installing "PyWin" or 
something with a similar name to avoid the console. Could that be a 
difference between installers ?




Vincent






Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

2009-12-13 Thread Vincent van Ravesteijn

Uwe Stöhr schreef:

Murat Yildizoglu schrieb:

I can see two console windows opening each time I launch Lyx using 
the bat file that has been installed by the alternative installer. 
They disappear very quickly (I do not have time to read their contents).


This is how it should be.
LyX is programmed in a way that a console is always started. My and 
also the standard installer hides it immediately.


The standard installer doesn't open this console window.

Vincent


Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

2009-12-13 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Am 13.12.2009 14:10, schrieb Vincent van Ravesteijn:


LyX is programmed in a way that a console is always started. My and
also the standard installer hides it immediately.


The standard installer doesn't open this console window.


No, this installer does the same:

Section -Launch

  # Start LyX and capture the command line output

  Push '$EXEDIR\lyx.exe $Parameters'
  CallInstDLL $EXEDIR\Console.dll ExecToLog
  Pop $ReturnValue #Return value

SectionEnd

This is done in the file launcher.nsi. This procedure is a bit different of mine because the console 
output is copied to LyX and thus directly accessible from within LyX. This special feature lead in 
the past to problems and I therefore only hide the console window.
The LyX console window cannot be avoided, we had a long discussion about this in the past. To get 
rid of the console LyX need to be reprogrammed which is not wanted.


regards Uwe


Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

2009-12-13 Thread Vincent van Ravesteijn

Uwe Stöhr schreef:

Am 13.12.2009 14:10, schrieb Vincent van Ravesteijn:


LyX is programmed in a way that a console is always started. My and
also the standard installer hides it immediately.


The standard installer doesn't open this console window.


Ok, I see some extra movement in the task bar when opening LyX, .. 
that's all.


I believe that with your installer, one can really see a window popping 
up (or two).


Vincent



Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

2009-12-13 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Am 13.12.2009 15:10, schrieb Vincent van Ravesteijn:


Ok, I see some extra movement in the task bar when opening LyX, ..
that's all.

I believe that with your installer, one can really see a window popping
up (or two).


This is correct, but they are closed immediately -- takes a few milliseconds. I don't think that 
this is a problem. It would only be annoying and a bug if the console window is not closed.


regards Uwe


Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

2009-12-13 Thread Vincent van Ravesteijn

Uwe Stöhr schreef:

Murat Yildizoglu schrieb:

I can see two console windows opening each time I launch Lyx using 
the bat file that has been installed by the alternative installer. 
They disappear very quickly (I do not have time to read their contents).


This is how it should be.
LyX is programmed in a way that a console is always started. My and 
also the standard installer hides it immediately.


The standard installer doesn't open this console window.

Vincent


Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

2009-12-13 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Am 13.12.2009 14:10, schrieb Vincent van Ravesteijn:


LyX is programmed in a way that a console is always started. My and
also the standard installer hides it immediately.


The standard installer doesn't open this console window.


No, this installer does the same:

Section -Launch

  # Start LyX and capture the command line output

  Push '$EXEDIR\lyx.exe $Parameters'
  CallInstDLL $EXEDIR\Console.dll ExecToLog
  Pop $ReturnValue #Return value

SectionEnd

This is done in the file launcher.nsi. This procedure is a bit different of mine because the console 
output is copied to LyX and thus directly accessible from within LyX. This special feature lead in 
the past to problems and I therefore only hide the console window.
The LyX console window cannot be avoided, we had a long discussion about this in the past. To get 
rid of the console LyX need to be reprogrammed which is not wanted.


regards Uwe


Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

2009-12-13 Thread Vincent van Ravesteijn

Uwe Stöhr schreef:

Am 13.12.2009 14:10, schrieb Vincent van Ravesteijn:


LyX is programmed in a way that a console is always started. My and
also the standard installer hides it immediately.


The standard installer doesn't open this console window.


Ok, I see some extra movement in the task bar when opening LyX, .. 
that's all.


I believe that with your installer, one can really see a window popping 
up (or two).


Vincent



Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

2009-12-13 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Am 13.12.2009 15:10, schrieb Vincent van Ravesteijn:


Ok, I see some extra movement in the task bar when opening LyX, ..
that's all.

I believe that with your installer, one can really see a window popping
up (or two).


This is correct, but they are closed immediately -- takes a few milliseconds. I don't think that 
this is a problem. It would only be annoying and a bug if the console window is not closed.


regards Uwe


Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

2009-12-13 Thread Vincent van Ravesteijn

Uwe Stöhr schreef:

Murat Yildizoglu schrieb:

I can see two console windows opening each time I launch Lyx using 
the bat file that has been installed by the alternative installer. 
They disappear very quickly (I do not have time to read their contents).


This is how it should be.
LyX is programmed in a way that a console is always started. My and 
also the standard installer hides it immediately.


The standard installer doesn't open this console window.

Vincent


Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

2009-12-13 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Am 13.12.2009 14:10, schrieb Vincent van Ravesteijn:


LyX is programmed in a way that a console is always started. My and
also the standard installer hides it immediately.


The standard installer doesn't open this console window.


No, this installer does the same:

Section -Launch

  # Start LyX and capture the command line output

  Push '"$EXEDIR\lyx.exe" $Parameters'
  CallInstDLL "$EXEDIR\Console.dll" ExecToLog
  Pop $ReturnValue #Return value

SectionEnd

This is done in the file launcher.nsi. This procedure is a bit different of mine because the console 
output is copied to LyX and thus directly accessible from within LyX. This special feature lead in 
the past to problems and I therefore only hide the console window.
The LyX console window cannot be avoided, we had a long discussion about this in the past. To get 
rid of the console LyX need to be reprogrammed which is not wanted.


regards Uwe


Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

2009-12-13 Thread Vincent van Ravesteijn

Uwe Stöhr schreef:

Am 13.12.2009 14:10, schrieb Vincent van Ravesteijn:


LyX is programmed in a way that a console is always started. My and
also the standard installer hides it immediately.


The standard installer doesn't open this console window.


Ok, I see some extra movement in the task bar when opening LyX, .. 
that's all.


I believe that with your installer, one can really see a window popping 
up (or two).


Vincent



Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

2009-12-13 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Am 13.12.2009 15:10, schrieb Vincent van Ravesteijn:


Ok, I see some extra movement in the task bar when opening LyX, ..
that's all.

I believe that with your installer, one can really see a window popping
up (or two).


This is correct, but they are closed immediately -- takes a few milliseconds. I don't think that 
this is a problem. It would only be annoying and a bug if the console window is not closed.


regards Uwe


Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

2009-12-12 Thread Manveru
2009/12/12 Diego Queiroz queiroz.di...@gmail.com:
 Hello.

 Thanks for your reply.

 I don't know if it is a good reason, but the alternative installer shows up
 an annoying console window when it opens. I really dislikes it, haha.

 In general, I think the standalone installer is more clean. This is why I
 prefer it. :-)


With all respect to your contribution Uwe, this is my preference too :-)

-- 
Manveru
jabber: manv...@manveru.pl
 gg: 1624001
   http://www.manveru.pl


OT: Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

2009-12-12 Thread Florian Rubach

Am 12.12.2009 09:00, schrieb Manveru:

2009/12/12 Diego Queirozqueiroz.di...@gmail.com:
   

Hello.

Thanks for your reply.

I don't know if it is a good reason, but the alternative installer shows up
an annoying console window when it opens. I really dislikes it, haha.

In general, I think the standalone installer is more clean. This is why I
prefer it. :-)

 

With all respect to your contribution Uwe, this is my preference too :-)
   


I vote for the alt-installer ;)


Re: OT: Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

2009-12-12 Thread Murat Yildizoglu
I have recently adopted the AltInstaller and I really like the upgrade
function and everything you need is in dimension of the complete
version. I first do a complete Miktex install or update, then the
upgrade through the AltInstaller and it works like a charm, even very
quick. I find the console window slightly annoying, but not enough to
counter-weight the advantages of the bundle. So, one vote for the alt
installer here too.

Thanks again Uwe for this public service!

Regards,

Murat

2009/12/12 Florian Rubach florian.rub...@gmx.de:
 Am 12.12.2009 09:00, schrieb Manveru:

 2009/12/12 Diego Queirozqueiroz.di...@gmail.com:


 Hello.

 Thanks for your reply.

 I don't know if it is a good reason, but the alternative installer shows
 up
 an annoying console window when it opens. I really dislikes it, haha.

 In general, I think the standalone installer is more clean. This is why
 I
 prefer it. :-)



 With all respect to your contribution Uwe, this is my preference too :-)


 I vote for the alt-installer ;)




-- 
Prof. Murat Yildizoglu
Université Paul Cézanne (Aix-Marseille 3)
GREQAM (UMR CNRS 6579)
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2, rue de la Charité
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Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

2009-12-12 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Diego Queiroz wrote:
 Someone knoes when Windows binaries for Lyx 1.6.5 will be available?

It's available now.

Jürgen


Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

2009-12-12 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Diego Queiroz schrieb:


I don't know if it is a good reason, but the alternative installer shows up
an annoying console window when it opens.


Really? This should only be visible for a few milliseconds. Only at the first start after an 
installation the console Windows is shown to indicate the current installation status of LaTeX-packages.



In general, I think the standalone installer is more clean. This is why I
prefer it. :-)


They do basically the same (also the hiding of the console window), the 
differences are listed here:
http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyXWinInstaller#detailed-comparison

regards Uwe


Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

2009-12-12 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Manveru schrieb:


In general, I think the standalone installer is more clean. This is why I
prefer it. :-)


With all respect to your contribution Uwe, this is my preference too :-)


Why exactly? How can I improve a product without clear statements?

regards Uwe


Re: OT: Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

2009-12-12 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Murat Yildizoglu schrieb:


I find the console window slightly annoying,


Me too but I don't get a console Window. Not on Win2000, WinXP, WinVista, Win7. Also not on 64bit 
systems, and also not with an English, German, or Japanese Windows.


Do you always get this Window, also when double-clicking on the file 
lyxLauncher.exe?

regards Uwe


Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

2009-12-12 Thread Murat Yildizoglu
I can see two console windows opening each time I launch Lyx using the  
bat file that has been installed by the alternative installer. They  
disappear very quickly (I do not have time to read their contents).

Murat

--
Murat Yildizoglu
murat.yildizo...@univ-cezanne.fr

Le 12 déc. 2009 à 21:49, Uwe Stöhr uwesto...@web.de a écrit :


Diego Queiroz schrieb:

I don't know if it is a good reason, but the alternative installer  
shows up

an annoying console window when it opens.


Really? This should only be visible for a few milliseconds. Only at  
the first start after an installation the console Windows is shown  
to indicate the current installation status of LaTeX-packages.


In general, I think the standalone installer is more clean. This  
is why I

prefer it. :-)


They do basically the same (also the hiding of the console window),  
the differences are listed here:

http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyXWinInstaller#detailed-comparison

regards Uwe


Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

2009-12-12 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Murat Yildizoglu schrieb:

I can see two console windows opening each time I launch Lyx using the 
bat file that has been installed by the alternative installer. They 
disappear very quickly (I do not have time to read their contents).


This is how it should be.
LyX is programmed in a way that a console is always started. My and also the standard installer 
hides it immediately. That you can see the console for a few milliseconds is normal. The time 
depends on the speed of your system.

So I don't understand your concerns.

regards Uwe


Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

2009-12-12 Thread Manveru
2009/12/12 Diego Queiroz queiroz.di...@gmail.com:
 Hello.

 Thanks for your reply.

 I don't know if it is a good reason, but the alternative installer shows up
 an annoying console window when it opens. I really dislikes it, haha.

 In general, I think the standalone installer is more clean. This is why I
 prefer it. :-)


With all respect to your contribution Uwe, this is my preference too :-)

-- 
Manveru
jabber: manv...@manveru.pl
 gg: 1624001
   http://www.manveru.pl


OT: Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

2009-12-12 Thread Florian Rubach

Am 12.12.2009 09:00, schrieb Manveru:

2009/12/12 Diego Queirozqueiroz.di...@gmail.com:
   

Hello.

Thanks for your reply.

I don't know if it is a good reason, but the alternative installer shows up
an annoying console window when it opens. I really dislikes it, haha.

In general, I think the standalone installer is more clean. This is why I
prefer it. :-)

 

With all respect to your contribution Uwe, this is my preference too :-)
   


I vote for the alt-installer ;)


Re: OT: Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

2009-12-12 Thread Murat Yildizoglu
I have recently adopted the AltInstaller and I really like the upgrade
function and everything you need is in dimension of the complete
version. I first do a complete Miktex install or update, then the
upgrade through the AltInstaller and it works like a charm, even very
quick. I find the console window slightly annoying, but not enough to
counter-weight the advantages of the bundle. So, one vote for the alt
installer here too.

Thanks again Uwe for this public service!

Regards,

Murat

2009/12/12 Florian Rubach florian.rub...@gmx.de:
 Am 12.12.2009 09:00, schrieb Manveru:

 2009/12/12 Diego Queirozqueiroz.di...@gmail.com:


 Hello.

 Thanks for your reply.

 I don't know if it is a good reason, but the alternative installer shows
 up
 an annoying console window when it opens. I really dislikes it, haha.

 In general, I think the standalone installer is more clean. This is why
 I
 prefer it. :-)



 With all respect to your contribution Uwe, this is my preference too :-)


 I vote for the alt-installer ;)




-- 
Prof. Murat Yildizoglu
Université Paul Cézanne (Aix-Marseille 3)
GREQAM (UMR CNRS 6579)
Centre de la Vieille Charité
2, rue de la Charité
13236 Marseille cedex 02

Bureau 320
Tel : +33 4 91 14 07 27 (standard)
Tel : +33 4 91 14 07 70 (secrétariat)
Tel : +33 4 91 14 07 47 (bureau)
Fax : +33 4 91 90 02 27

e-mail: murat.yildizo...@univ-cezanne.fr
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Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

2009-12-12 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Diego Queiroz wrote:
 Someone knoes when Windows binaries for Lyx 1.6.5 will be available?

It's available now.

Jürgen


Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

2009-12-12 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Diego Queiroz schrieb:


I don't know if it is a good reason, but the alternative installer shows up
an annoying console window when it opens.


Really? This should only be visible for a few milliseconds. Only at the first start after an 
installation the console Windows is shown to indicate the current installation status of LaTeX-packages.



In general, I think the standalone installer is more clean. This is why I
prefer it. :-)


They do basically the same (also the hiding of the console window), the 
differences are listed here:
http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyXWinInstaller#detailed-comparison

regards Uwe


Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

2009-12-12 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Manveru schrieb:


In general, I think the standalone installer is more clean. This is why I
prefer it. :-)


With all respect to your contribution Uwe, this is my preference too :-)


Why exactly? How can I improve a product without clear statements?

regards Uwe


Re: OT: Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

2009-12-12 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Murat Yildizoglu schrieb:


I find the console window slightly annoying,


Me too but I don't get a console Window. Not on Win2000, WinXP, WinVista, Win7. Also not on 64bit 
systems, and also not with an English, German, or Japanese Windows.


Do you always get this Window, also when double-clicking on the file 
lyxLauncher.exe?

regards Uwe


Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

2009-12-12 Thread Murat Yildizoglu
I can see two console windows opening each time I launch Lyx using the  
bat file that has been installed by the alternative installer. They  
disappear very quickly (I do not have time to read their contents).

Murat

--
Murat Yildizoglu
murat.yildizo...@univ-cezanne.fr

Le 12 déc. 2009 à 21:49, Uwe Stöhr uwesto...@web.de a écrit :


Diego Queiroz schrieb:

I don't know if it is a good reason, but the alternative installer  
shows up

an annoying console window when it opens.


Really? This should only be visible for a few milliseconds. Only at  
the first start after an installation the console Windows is shown  
to indicate the current installation status of LaTeX-packages.


In general, I think the standalone installer is more clean. This  
is why I

prefer it. :-)


They do basically the same (also the hiding of the console window),  
the differences are listed here:

http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyXWinInstaller#detailed-comparison

regards Uwe


Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

2009-12-12 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Murat Yildizoglu schrieb:

I can see two console windows opening each time I launch Lyx using the 
bat file that has been installed by the alternative installer. They 
disappear very quickly (I do not have time to read their contents).


This is how it should be.
LyX is programmed in a way that a console is always started. My and also the standard installer 
hides it immediately. That you can see the console for a few milliseconds is normal. The time 
depends on the speed of your system.

So I don't understand your concerns.

regards Uwe


Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

2009-12-12 Thread Manveru
2009/12/12 Diego Queiroz :
> Hello.
>
> Thanks for your reply.
>
> I don't know if it is a good reason, but the alternative installer shows up
> an annoying console window when it opens. I really dislikes it, haha.
>
> In general, I think the standalone installer is more "clean". This is why I
> prefer it. :-)
>

With all respect to your contribution Uwe, this is my preference too :-)

-- 
Manveru
jabber: manv...@manveru.pl
 gg: 1624001
   http://www.manveru.pl


OT: Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

2009-12-12 Thread Florian Rubach

Am 12.12.2009 09:00, schrieb Manveru:

2009/12/12 Diego Queiroz:
   

Hello.

Thanks for your reply.

I don't know if it is a good reason, but the alternative installer shows up
an annoying console window when it opens. I really dislikes it, haha.

In general, I think the standalone installer is more "clean". This is why I
prefer it. :-)

 

With all respect to your contribution Uwe, this is my preference too :-)
   


I vote for the alt-installer ;)


Re: OT: Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

2009-12-12 Thread Murat Yildizoglu
I have recently adopted the AltInstaller and I really like the upgrade
function and "everything you need is in" dimension of the complete
version. I first do a complete Miktex install or update, then the
upgrade through the AltInstaller and it works like a charm, even very
quick. I find the console window slightly annoying, but not enough to
counter-weight the advantages of the bundle. So, one vote for the alt
installer here too.

Thanks again Uwe for this public service!

Regards,

Murat

2009/12/12 Florian Rubach :
> Am 12.12.2009 09:00, schrieb Manveru:
>>
>> 2009/12/12 Diego Queiroz:
>>
>>>
>>> Hello.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your reply.
>>>
>>> I don't know if it is a good reason, but the alternative installer shows
>>> up
>>> an annoying console window when it opens. I really dislikes it, haha.
>>>
>>> In general, I think the standalone installer is more "clean". This is why
>>> I
>>> prefer it. :-)
>>>
>>>
>>
>> With all respect to your contribution Uwe, this is my preference too :-)
>>
>
> I vote for the alt-installer ;)
>



-- 
Prof. Murat Yildizoglu
Université Paul Cézanne (Aix-Marseille 3)
GREQAM (UMR CNRS 6579)
Centre de la Vieille Charité
2, rue de la Charité
13236 Marseille cedex 02

Bureau 320
Tel : +33 4 91 14 07 27 (standard)
Tel : +33 4 91 14 07 70 (secrétariat)
Tel : +33 4 91 14 07 47 (bureau)
Fax : +33 4 91 90 02 27

e-mail: murat.yildizo...@univ-cezanne.fr
www : http://www.vcharite.univ-mrs.fr/PP/yildi/index.html
http://www.twitter.com/yildizoglu
__


Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

2009-12-12 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Diego Queiroz wrote:
> Someone knoes when Windows binaries for Lyx 1.6.5 will be available?

It's available now.

Jürgen


Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

2009-12-12 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Diego Queiroz schrieb:


I don't know if it is a good reason, but the alternative installer shows up
an annoying console window when it opens.


Really? This should only be visible for a few milliseconds. Only at the first start after an 
installation the console Windows is shown to indicate the current installation status of LaTeX-packages.



In general, I think the standalone installer is more "clean". This is why I
prefer it. :-)


They do basically the same (also the hiding of the console window), the 
differences are listed here:
http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyXWinInstaller#detailed-comparison

regards Uwe


Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

2009-12-12 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Manveru schrieb:


In general, I think the standalone installer is more "clean". This is why I
prefer it. :-)


With all respect to your contribution Uwe, this is my preference too :-)


Why exactly? How can I improve a product without clear statements?

regards Uwe


Re: OT: Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

2009-12-12 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Murat Yildizoglu schrieb:


I find the console window slightly annoying,


Me too but I don't get a console Window. Not on Win2000, WinXP, WinVista, Win7. Also not on 64bit 
systems, and also not with an English, German, or Japanese Windows.


Do you always get this Window, also when double-clicking on the file 
"lyxLauncher.exe"?

regards Uwe


Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

2009-12-12 Thread Murat Yildizoglu
I can see two console windows opening each time I launch Lyx using the  
bat file that has been installed by the alternative installer. They  
disappear very quickly (I do not have time to read their contents).

Murat

--
Murat Yildizoglu
murat.yildizo...@univ-cezanne.fr

Le 12 déc. 2009 à 21:49, Uwe Stöhr  a écrit :


Diego Queiroz schrieb:

I don't know if it is a good reason, but the alternative installer  
shows up

an annoying console window when it opens.


Really? This should only be visible for a few milliseconds. Only at  
the first start after an installation the console Windows is shown  
to indicate the current installation status of LaTeX-packages.


In general, I think the standalone installer is more "clean". This  
is why I

prefer it. :-)


They do basically the same (also the hiding of the console window),  
the differences are listed here:

http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyXWinInstaller#detailed-comparison

regards Uwe


Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

2009-12-12 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Murat Yildizoglu schrieb:

I can see two console windows opening each time I launch Lyx using the 
bat file that has been installed by the alternative installer. They 
disappear very quickly (I do not have time to read their contents).


This is how it should be.
LyX is programmed in a way that a console is always started. My and also the standard installer 
hides it immediately. That you can see the console for a few milliseconds is normal. The time 
depends on the speed of your system.

So I don't understand your concerns.

regards Uwe


Re: lyx 1.6.5 + computer algebra (windows)

2009-12-11 Thread Yago

an expeiment
- Original Message - 
From: Philip A. Viton vito...@osu.edu

To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 9:44 PM
Subject: lyx 1.6.5 + computer algebra (windows)




I understand that now that lyx has implemented the server in the MS-Win 
edition, it should be possible to use the computer algebra feature. Can 
someone post (or point me to) details on how to set this up, say for 
Maple? I'm not sure how Lyx knows if you have a ca system, since it 
doesn't seem to enter itself into the path (also, a couple of lines in 
configure.py referring to maple seem to be commented out).




Philip A. Viton
City Planning, Ohio State University
275 West Woodruff Avenue, Columbus OH 43210
vito...@osu.edu





Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

2009-12-11 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Diego Queiroz schrieb:


Someone knoes when Windows binaries for Lyx 1.6.5 will be available?

 (the standalone installer, not the alternative one)

No, but the installer doesn't matter. Both will install LyX on Windows. Or do you have a certain 
reason why you don't want to use the alternative installer?


regards Uwe


Re: Lyx 1.6.5 Installer

2009-12-11 Thread Diego Queiroz
Hello.

Thanks for your reply.

I don't know if it is a good reason, but the alternative installer shows up
an annoying console window when it opens. I really dislikes it, haha.

In general, I think the standalone installer is more clean. This is why I
prefer it. :-)


Regards,
---
Diego Queiroz


On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 1:00 AM, Uwe Stöhr uwesto...@web.de wrote:

 Diego Queiroz schrieb:


  Someone knoes when Windows binaries for Lyx 1.6.5 will be available?

  (the standalone installer, not the alternative one)

 No, but the installer doesn't matter. Both will install LyX on Windows. Or
 do you have a certain reason why you don't want to use the alternative
 installer?

 regards Uwe



Re: lyx 1.6.5 + computer algebra (windows)

2009-12-11 Thread Yago

an expeiment
- Original Message - 
From: Philip A. Viton vito...@osu.edu

To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 9:44 PM
Subject: lyx 1.6.5 + computer algebra (windows)




I understand that now that lyx has implemented the server in the MS-Win 
edition, it should be possible to use the computer algebra feature. Can 
someone post (or point me to) details on how to set this up, say for 
Maple? I'm not sure how Lyx knows if you have a ca system, since it 
doesn't seem to enter itself into the path (also, a couple of lines in 
configure.py referring to maple seem to be commented out).




Philip A. Viton
City Planning, Ohio State University
275 West Woodruff Avenue, Columbus OH 43210
vito...@osu.edu





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