Re: Lyx for Windows

[John Beattie]

On 2019-10-30 16:08 +0100, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
> 
> Am 30.10.19 um 13:35 schrieb Baris Erkus:
> >On 28-Oct-19 10:30 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
> >>Does John's advice to use identical versions of LyX mean to use 2.3.3
> >>(which I use) also under Windows? I did not find this version for MikTeX.
> >>
> >>
> >This question is not clear. MikTeX and LyX are two seperate packages.
> >The latest version of LyX is compatible with the latest version of
> >MikTeX as I have tried it just yesterday on a fresh PC.
> >
> >If you are asking if two LyX versions should be same or not, I think, if
> >you are using versions of 2.3.x, it should not be a problem, as I have
> >tried this with some of my students and we did not have an issue.
> Good.
> >
> >In my opinion, even if one of the LyX has version of LyX 2.2.x, and the
> >other is 2.3.x, it should not be a problem as long as both LyX programs
> >are setup and running properly. However, there maybe certain features in
> >versions 2.3.x that may not be available in 2.2.x, which may create some
> >warnings when opening in v 2.2.x. Maybe you should ask this as a
> >separate question to the list, if you are using an older version o LyX.
> >
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My experience is only that there is a format version number for LyX at the head
of each lyx file. If those are not the same, then whichever is the older LyX
will refuse to handle the newer format.

Meanwhile, the newer LyX will upgrade an older file to the new format.

Of course this is correct behaviour, I merely have to ensure that I have the
same version in both places. Yes, I agree, it does not have to be the same
beyond the minor version, i.e. at present any 2.3.x.

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Re: Lyx for Windows

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Am 30.10.19 um 13:35 schrieb Baris Erkus:

On 28-Oct-19 10:30 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:

Does John's advice to use identical versions of LyX mean to use 2.3.3
(which I use) also under Windows? I did not find this version for MikTeX.



This question is not clear. MikTeX and LyX are two seperate packages.
The latest version of LyX is compatible with the latest version of
MikTeX as I have tried it just yesterday on a fresh PC.

If you are asking if two LyX versions should be same or not, I think, if
you are using versions of 2.3.x, it should not be a problem, as I have
tried this with some of my students and we did not have an issue.

Good.


In my opinion, even if one of the LyX has version of LyX 2.2.x, and the
other is 2.3.x, it should not be a problem as long as both LyX programs
are setup and running properly. However, there maybe certain features in
versions 2.3.x that may not be available in 2.2.x, which may create some
warnings when opening in v 2.2.x. Maybe you should ask this as a
separate question to the list, if you are using an older version o LyX.


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Re: Lyx for Windows

[Baris Erkus]

On 28-Oct-19 10:30 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
> Does John's advice to use identical versions of LyX mean to use 2.3.3 
> (which I use) also under Windows? I did not find this version for MikTeX.
>
>
This question is not clear. MikTeX and LyX are two seperate packages. 
The latest version of LyX is compatible with the latest version of 
MikTeX as I have tried it just yesterday on a fresh PC.

If you are asking if two LyX versions should be same or not, I think, if 
you are using versions of 2.3.x, it should not be a problem, as I have 
tried this with some of my students and we did not have an issue.

In my opinion, even if one of the LyX has version of LyX 2.2.x, and the 
other is 2.3.x, it should not be a problem as long as both LyX programs 
are setup and running properly. However, there maybe certain features in 
versions 2.3.x that may not be available in 2.2.x, which may create some 
warnings when opening in v 2.2.x. Maybe you should ask this as a 
separate question to the list, if you are using an older version o LyX.

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Re: Lyx for Windows

[Joel Kulesza]

On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 1:30 AM Wolfgang Engelmann <
engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de> wrote:

>
> I remember a
> note where TeXLive was recommended over MikTeX for some reason. I guess
> this is no issue any more.


I remember this guidance, and it feels like a "more-pure" approach, so that
is why I try it first each time I must install on Windows.  However,
because of my poor success with getting the TeXLive installer to complete
successfully on Windows, I end up with MiKTeX with no ill effects (thus
far).  Admittedly, I use Windows rather infrequently, so I'm not the best
authority for the approach here.

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Re: Lyx for Windows

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Am 28.10.19 um 01:08 schrieb Paul A. Rubin:

On 10/27/19 9:57 AM, Joel Kulesza wrote:
I have a colleague with whom I would like to write a book chapter. 
I am under Linux, he uses Windows. Is the following advice 
sufficient or should I mention more points?


Lyx for windows
https://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/Windows

1- Installing TeXLive for Windows over Internet
https://www.tug.org/texlive/acquire-netinstall.html
use Custom install
and follow the proposal below the Texlive 2018 figure
Click install texlive
This is the same advice I’d give. However, I’ve generally had bad 
luck successfully installing TeXLive on Windows and still usually end 
up with MiKTeX.  You might want to be prepared for this contingency.


- Joel
I am working with a coauthor on a paper, both using LyX. I'm on Linux 
+ TeXLive; she's on Windows + MikTeX. We have had no problems with the 
collaboration, including using the change tracking features. So I 
agree with Joel that there is no need to mess with TeXLive on the 
Windows platform (where MikTeX is the more typical choice). Both 
parties just need to be sure they have any required packages installed.


Paul

I am overwhelmed by the many helpful advises. For the time being I will 
use my linux LyX and ask my colleague to use MikTeX, since at the start 
I want him to be able to read all my lyx notes in which I collected the 
results of new publications since the last edition in 2015. I remember a 
note where TeXLive was recommended over MikTeX for some reason. I guess 
this is no issue any more. I have to dig into the Github proposal for a 
possible later use. Does John's advice to use identical versions of LyX 
mean to use 2.3.3 (which I use) also under Windows? I did not find this 
version for MikTeX.


Thanks a lot to all of you,

Wolfgang


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Re: Lyx for Windows

[Baris Erkus]

On 27-Oct-19 3:18 PM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
I have a colleague with whom I would like to write a book chapter. I am under 
Linux, he uses Windows. Is the following advice sufficient or should I mention 
more points?

Lyx for windows
https://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/Windows

1- Installing TeXLive for Windows over Internet
https://www.tug.org/texlive/acquire-netinstall.html
use Custom install
and follow the proposal below the Texlive 2018 figure
Click install texlive

2- Download Current stable version 2.3.0 using standard installer 
LyX-230-Installer-005.exe (58 MB)

Open lyx and load the Photobiology-4th-Edition.lyx file which I will send you.


  *   I would recommend using Git / GitHub to both of you if you are going to 
work on one document. GitHub gives free private repos to researchers for 
non-profit work.
  *   For Windows, Microsoft did major updates to Windows and some versions of 
Windows cause issues. There are workarounds tough.
  *   I would recommend to consider MikTex as an alternative to TeXLive.
  *   I would recommend to install both MikTex and LyX for all users. Also I 
would recommend MikTeX to install packages on the fly without asking.
  *   I would recommend to install imagemagick with convert tool and define a 
converter from PDF to PNG with  convert -density 200 -trim -quality 100 
-sharpen 0x1.0 $$i $$o
  *   I suggest to use Sumatra PDF for PDF viewer and PDF XChange for PDF 
markup, edit and cropping.
  *   Dictionary files downloaded from the LyX installer may be corrupted. 
Hunspell dictionary files can be downloaded and place in the resources/dict 
folder manually.
  *   May need to edit the LyX file occasionally.  I suggest to use Notepad++ 
for that purpose.

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Re: Lyx for Windows

[Paul A. Rubin]

On 10/27/19 9:57 AM, Joel Kulesza wrote:

I have a colleague with whom I would like to write a book chapter. I am under 
Linux, he uses Windows. Is the following advice sufficient or should I mention 
more points?

Lyx for windows
https://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/Windows

1- Installing TeXLive for Windows over Internet
https://www.tug.org/texlive/acquire-netinstall.html
use Custom install
and follow the proposal below the Texlive 2018 figure
Click install texlive

This is the same advice I’d give. However, I’ve generally had bad luck 
successfully installing TeXLive on Windows and still usually end up with 
MiKTeX.  You might want to be prepared for this contingency.

- Joel
I am working with a coauthor on a paper, both using LyX. I'm on Linux + 
TeXLive; she's on Windows + MikTeX. We have had no problems with the 
collaboration, including using the change tracking features. So I agree 
with Joel that there is no need to mess with TeXLive on the Windows 
platform (where MikTeX is the more typical choice). Both parties just 
need to be sure they have any required packages installed.


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Re: Lyx for Windows

[John Beattie]

On 2019-10-27 07:57 -0600, Joel Kulesza wrote:
> 
> > I have a colleague with whom I would like to write a book chapter. I am 
> > under Linux, he uses Windows. Is the following advice sufficient or should 
> > I mention more points?
> > 
> > Lyx for windows
> > https://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/Windows
> > 
> > 1- Installing TeXLive for Windows over Internet
> > https://www.tug.org/texlive/acquire-netinstall.html
> > use Custom install
> > and follow the proposal below the Texlive 2018 figure
> > Click install texlive
> 
> This is the same advice I’d give. However, I’ve generally had bad luck 
> successfully installing TeXLive on Windows and still usually end up with 
> MiKTeX.  You might want to be prepared for this contingency. 
> 
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I have linux at home and windows at work and I occasionally move a lyx file from
one to the other.  It is perfectly straightforward.  The key gotchas I can
recall are these and they are not serious:

- the lyx versions must be identical.

- if there are any special modules, both must be present in both places.

- the file might well look a little different in lyx on Windows and Linux.  This
  is not a real problem for me but might be if your colleague is not co-located
  with you.

- My Acrobat Reader on Windows is anti-social about closing the file. I always
  have to approve closing the existing version when I compile a new version.


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Re: Lyx for Windows

[Joel Kulesza]

> I have a colleague with whom I would like to write a book chapter. I am 
> under Linux, he uses Windows. Is the following advice sufficient or should I 
> mention more points?
> 
> Lyx for windows
> https://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/Windows
> 
> 1- Installing TeXLive for Windows over Internet
> https://www.tug.org/texlive/acquire-netinstall.html
> use Custom install
> and follow the proposal below the Texlive 2018 figure
> Click install texlive

This is the same advice I’d give. However, I’ve generally had bad luck 
successfully installing TeXLive on Windows and still usually end up with 
MiKTeX.  You might want to be prepared for this contingency. 

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Re: lyx for Windows 8

[Richard Opheim]

I've had no problems---sorry you have to use Win8.


On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 11:29 PM, John Kane  wrote:

> http://www.latex-community.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=23095
>
>
>   On Tuesday, January 28, 2014 10:02:53 AM, Roberto Campagnola <
> r.campagn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  Dear lyx developers,
> does lyx works with Windows 8, can I download it safely?
> thanks
>
>
>


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Re: lyx for Windows 8

[John Kane]

http://www.latex-community.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=23095




On Tuesday, January 28, 2014 10:02:53 AM, Roberto Campagnola 
 wrote:
 
Dear lyx developers,
does lyx works with Windows 8, can I download it safely?
thanks

Re: lyx for Windows 8

[Richard Heck]

On 01/28/2014 09:58 AM, Roberto Campagnola wrote:

Dear lyx developers,
does lyx works with Windows 8, can I download it safely?


We have not heard about any problems. Normal bugs, but nothing unsafe.

rh

Re: Lyx for windows

[Paul A. Rubin]

Alexander Scott wrote:
I'm a long time user of Lyx for Linux, and recently installed it for windows 
at my new job.  However, the math symbols (all Greek letters plus many of the 
symbols from the math panel) have a different letter or number appear on the 
screen.  When I compile to dvi, the correct symbol is displayed, but the 
confusion in Lyx is disorienting.  Is anyone familiar with this problem, or 
knows of a font solution that I can use?




It means the fonts LyX uses for math displays in the GUI aren't properly 
installed under Windows.  Check that a .\Resources\fonts directory 
exists under your LyX program directory, and that it contains nine 
TrueType font files (.ttf) and the BaKoMa4LyX font license.  If not, 
snag them here (ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/contrib/BaKoMa4LyX-1.1.zip) 
and unpack them.  Now crank up the Windows font applet (from the Control 
Panel).  If it shows any or all of those fonts installed, delete them in 
the font applet.  Then reinstall them from the LyX fonts directory. 
Restart LyX and cross your fingers.


/Paul

Re: lyx for windows: Why not the cygwin tetex?

[Kayvan A. Sylvan]

On Sat, Dec 21, 2002 at 01:00:14PM -0800, Max Bian wrote:
> It works, but VERY slow.  Maybe that's why we should avoid the cygwin
> tetex?

I've used both fptex and the Cygwin tetex. The native one was faster,
but the difference was not that big for me. The convenience of the
installation of the Cygwin tetex won out in my case.

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Re: lyx for windows: Why not the cygwin tetex?

[Max Bian]

It works, but VERY slow.  Maybe that's why we should avoid the cygwin
tetex?

Max
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> Thanks.  I'll give it a try!  Do you guys have any sucess with xfig
> and
> gnuplot package under cygwin?  I use those often with the lyx.
> 
> Max
> 
> --- "David A.  Case" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Fri, Dec 20, 2002, Max Bian wrote:
> > 
> > > Following the link at lyx.org I went to a great site about
> > installing
> > > lyx on windows.  I saw the following:
> > > 
> > > "As of today be sure to SKIP (NOT INSTALL) the package tetex"
> > > 
> > > My question is why.
> > 
> > As far as I can tell, there is no reason to avoid the native cygwin
> > tetex package.  I have been using it with no problems for a year or
> > more.
> > 
> > ..dac
> > 
> 

Re: lyx for windows: Why not the cygwin tetex?

[Max Bian]

Thanks.  I'll give it a try!  Do you guys have any sucess with xfig and
gnuplot package under cygwin?  I use those often with the lyx.

Max

--- "David A.  Case" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 20, 2002, Max Bian wrote:
> 
> > Following the link at lyx.org I went to a great site about
> installing
> > lyx on windows.  I saw the following:
> > 
> > "As of today be sure to SKIP (NOT INSTALL) the package tetex"
> > 
> > My question is why.
> 
> As far as I can tell, there is no reason to avoid the native cygwin
> tetex package.  I have been using it with no problems for a year or
> more.
> 
> ..dac
> 

Re: lyx for windows: Why not the cygwin tetex?

[David A. Case]

On Fri, Dec 20, 2002, Max Bian wrote:

> Following the link at lyx.org I went to a great site about installing
> lyx on windows.  I saw the following:
> 
> "As of today be sure to SKIP (NOT INSTALL) the package tetex"
> 
> My question is why.

As far as I can tell, there is no reason to avoid the native cygwin
tetex package.  I have been using it with no problems for a year or more.

..dac

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Re: LyX for Windows

[Roberto Hernandez]

Herbert Voss wrote:
>> "Installing the package 'Xfree86-Runtime' is only necessary if you do
>> not have installed the XFree server. Unselecting that package works as
>> described above for the Cygwin installation"
>>
>> So I installed XFree86-Runtime, but when I try to open LyX I get a
>> message that the X server is not found. Since xfree86-runtime only
>> installs a few DLL's, I don't know how to get the server running
>> _BEFORE_ executing LyX.
>>
>> Any pointers?
> 
> 
> did you visit the site from Klaus?
> 
> http://www.fh-hannover.de/mbau/tim/hentschel/lyx/
> 

That's where I got the instructions from (see quote above).

Roberto.

Re: LyX for Windows

[Herbert Voss]

Roberto Hernandez wrote:

> Hey everyone,
> 
> I've been using LyX on Linux for a few months. Now I'm trying to install
> it on Windows so I can view LyX files on both platforms.
> 
> I installed fpTeX and Cygwin. Then I followed the instructions for
> installing the Windows version of LyX. According to the documentation:
> 
> "Installing the package 'Xfree86-Runtime' is only necessary if you do
> not have installed the XFree server. Unselecting that package works as
> described above for the Cygwin installation"
> 
> So I installed XFree86-Runtime, but when I try to open LyX I get a
> message that the X server is not found. Since xfree86-runtime only
> installs a few DLL's, I don't know how to get the server running
> _BEFORE_ executing LyX.
> 
> Any pointers?


did you visit the site from Klaus?

http://www.fh-hannover.de/mbau/tim/hentschel/lyx/


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Re: Lyx for windows 95 - Install questions

[Claus Hentschel]

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> Sheldon> I have been trying to use the Windows 95 port of lyx but I
> Sheldon> can't seem to overcome several install problems. Maybe some
> Sheldon> one on the list has a solution.
> 
> Sheldon> First, when I run the runconfigure.bat it looks for LaTeX2e
> Sheldon> then latex. The final result is a line "latex...unusable" I
> Sheldon> have tried this with miktex and fptex. Neither includes
> Sheldon> LaTeX2e file. What is the fix so that these are recognized.
> Sheldon> At the present fptex is installed and the latex is on the
> Sheldon> path.
> 
> Sheldon> Second, where does ispell need to be installed? The
> Sheldon> runconfigure comes up "ispell...no" Ispell is on the path.
> Sheldon> How do I get it to see Ispell?
> 
> I think we still have problems with these scripts under windows when
> the paths where the programs are contain spaces. Is this your case?
> 
Have a look on http://www.fh-hannover.de/mbau/tim/hentschel/lyx/index.htm
There I have described how to install Lyx with ispell and more!

Regards
Claus

Re: Lyx for windows 95 - Install questions

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

> "Sheldon" == Sheldon F Oppenheim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Sheldon> I have been trying to use the Windows 95 port of lyx but I
Sheldon> can't seem to overcome several install problems. Maybe some
Sheldon> one on the list has a solution.

Sheldon> First, when I run the runconfigure.bat it looks for LaTeX2e
Sheldon> then latex. The final result is a line "latex...unusable" I
Sheldon> have tried this with miktex and fptex. Neither includes
Sheldon> LaTeX2e file. What is the fix so that these are recognized.
Sheldon> At the present fptex is installed and the latex is on the
Sheldon> path.

Sheldon> Second, where does ispell need to be installed? The
Sheldon> runconfigure comes up "ispell...no" Ispell is on the path.
Sheldon> How do I get it to see Ispell?

I think we still have problems with these scripts under windows when
the paths where the programs are contain spaces. Is this your case?

JMarc