Re: WRB - Observations

2008-04-02 Thread Joost Verburg
William R. Buckley wrote: I noticed that when trying to browse for the graphic file of a figure inserted into a document via the LyX user interface, and upon trying to utilise a shortcut (as the means to more efficiently select the proper directory that is to be browsed), it happens that LyX

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-04-02 Thread Joost Verburg
William R. Buckley wrote: I noticed that when trying to browse for the graphic file of a figure inserted into a document via the LyX user interface, and upon trying to utilise a shortcut (as the means to more efficiently select the proper directory that is to be browsed), it happens that LyX

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-04-02 Thread Joost Verburg
William R. Buckley wrote: I noticed that when trying to browse for the graphic file of a figure inserted into a document via the LyX user interface, and upon trying to utilise a shortcut (as the means to more efficiently select the proper directory that is to be browsed), it happens that LyX

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-04-01 Thread G. Milde
On 31.03.08, William R. Buckley wrote: Well, the open source tool Maxima has no problem following a Windows shortcut in its browsing function. So, your position is therefore that LyX should be less than it might be, when other open source tools have no problem with a simple if arcane

RE: WRB - Observations

2008-04-01 Thread William R. Buckley
information. That is what you expect to obtain from those who seek assistance with your product. Give the same as you expect. wrb -Original Message- From: G. Milde [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 12:18 AM To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Subject: Re: WRB - Observations

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-04-01 Thread Paul A. Rubin
Joost Verburg wrote: William R. Buckley wrote: Well, the open source tool Maxima has no problem following a Windows shortcut in its browsing function. So, your position is therefore that LyX should be less than it might be, when other open source tools have no problem with a simple if arcane

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-04-01 Thread Joost Verburg
Paul A. Rubin wrote: On my XP Home box, every program I've tested that uses the Windows file open dialog can follow a shortcut (.lnk) to a directory. So either something is amiss with your system, or maybe you have some registry setting mucking things up. If I remember correctly, there is

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-04-01 Thread Joost Verburg
William R. Buckley wrote: I noticed that when trying to browse for the graphic file of a figure inserted into a document via the LyX user interface, and upon trying to utilise a shortcut (as the means to more efficiently select the proper directory that is to be browsed), it happens that LyX

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-04-01 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Tue, Apr 01, 2008 at 05:53:57AM -0700, William R. Buckley wrote: There was an assumption then, that I know what Qt is, and therefore should have understood the mention. Well, that's an assumption e.g. I rarely make. However, I usually assume that literate people using the internet for email

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-04-01 Thread Joost Verburg
G. Milde wrote: There was a suggestion to report the bug to where it belongs, i.e. the QT library. QT is actively supported, tries to do the operating system universality in a clean and sensible way. Maybe this bug is even fixed in a current version of QT (or labelled as wontfix even there if

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-04-01 Thread Michael Wojcik
William R. Buckley wrote: What really surprises me is the effort various members have expended to encourage me not to help your project. I quite think your efforts are misguided. Well, I suspect this particular issue (the treatment of Windows shortcuts in some of the LyX file-open dialogs,

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-04-01 Thread G. Milde
On 31.03.08, William R. Buckley wrote: Well, the open source tool Maxima has no problem following a Windows shortcut in its browsing function. So, your position is therefore that LyX should be less than it might be, when other open source tools have no problem with a simple if arcane

RE: WRB - Observations

2008-04-01 Thread William R. Buckley
information. That is what you expect to obtain from those who seek assistance with your product. Give the same as you expect. wrb -Original Message- From: G. Milde [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 12:18 AM To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Subject: Re: WRB - Observations

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-04-01 Thread Paul A. Rubin
Joost Verburg wrote: William R. Buckley wrote: Well, the open source tool Maxima has no problem following a Windows shortcut in its browsing function. So, your position is therefore that LyX should be less than it might be, when other open source tools have no problem with a simple if arcane

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-04-01 Thread Joost Verburg
Paul A. Rubin wrote: On my XP Home box, every program I've tested that uses the Windows file open dialog can follow a shortcut (.lnk) to a directory. So either something is amiss with your system, or maybe you have some registry setting mucking things up. If I remember correctly, there is

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-04-01 Thread Joost Verburg
William R. Buckley wrote: I noticed that when trying to browse for the graphic file of a figure inserted into a document via the LyX user interface, and upon trying to utilise a shortcut (as the means to more efficiently select the proper directory that is to be browsed), it happens that LyX

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-04-01 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Tue, Apr 01, 2008 at 05:53:57AM -0700, William R. Buckley wrote: There was an assumption then, that I know what Qt is, and therefore should have understood the mention. Well, that's an assumption e.g. I rarely make. However, I usually assume that literate people using the internet for email

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-04-01 Thread Joost Verburg
G. Milde wrote: There was a suggestion to report the bug to where it belongs, i.e. the QT library. QT is actively supported, tries to do the operating system universality in a clean and sensible way. Maybe this bug is even fixed in a current version of QT (or labelled as wontfix even there if

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-04-01 Thread Michael Wojcik
William R. Buckley wrote: What really surprises me is the effort various members have expended to encourage me not to help your project. I quite think your efforts are misguided. Well, I suspect this particular issue (the treatment of Windows shortcuts in some of the LyX file-open dialogs,

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-04-01 Thread G. Milde
On 31.03.08, William R. Buckley wrote: > Well, the open source tool Maxima has no problem following a Windows > shortcut in its browsing function. So, your position is therefore that > LyX should be less than it might be, when other open source tools have > no problem with a simple if arcane

RE: WRB - Observations

2008-04-01 Thread William R. Buckley
information. That is what you expect to obtain from those who seek assistance with your product. Give the same as you expect. wrb > -Original Message- > From: G. Milde [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 12:18 AM > To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org > S

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-04-01 Thread Paul A. Rubin
Joost Verburg wrote: William R. Buckley wrote: Well, the open source tool Maxima has no problem following a Windows shortcut in its browsing function. So, your position is therefore that LyX should be less than it might be, when other open source tools have no problem with a simple if arcane

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-04-01 Thread Joost Verburg
Paul A. Rubin wrote: On my XP Home box, every program I've tested that uses the Windows file open dialog can follow a shortcut (.lnk) to a directory. So either something is amiss with your system, or maybe you have some registry setting mucking things up. If I remember correctly, there is

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-04-01 Thread Joost Verburg
William R. Buckley wrote: I noticed that when trying to browse for the graphic file of a figure inserted into a document via the LyX user interface, and upon trying to utilise a shortcut (as the means to more efficiently select the proper directory that is to be browsed), it happens that LyX

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-04-01 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Tue, Apr 01, 2008 at 05:53:57AM -0700, William R. Buckley wrote: > There was an assumption then, that I know what Qt is, > and therefore should have understood the mention. Well, that's an assumption e.g. I rarely make. However, I usually assume that literate people using the internet for

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-04-01 Thread Joost Verburg
G. Milde wrote: There was a suggestion to report the bug to "where it belongs", i.e. the QT library. QT is actively supported, tries to do the "operating system universality" in a clean and sensible way. Maybe this bug is even fixed in a current version of QT (or labelled as wontfix even there

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-04-01 Thread Michael Wojcik
William R. Buckley wrote: What really surprises me is the effort various members have expended to encourage me not to help your project. I quite think your efforts are misguided. Well, I suspect this particular issue (the treatment of Windows "shortcuts" in some of the LyX file-open

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-03-31 Thread Paul A. Rubin
Joost Verburg wrote: Paul A. Rubin wrote: I don't think so. Contrast the behavior of the Insert - Graphics dialog with the File - Open dialog. With both dialogs I get exactly the same behavior (the .lnk file is opened). File - Open hides shortcuts by default because it's looking for .lyx

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-03-31 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 11:57:47PM +0200, Joost Verburg wrote: Rich Shepard wrote: However, if you want to use open source applications built to open standards, then understand that almost all of these were originally build for linux or one of the *BSDs, those are the platforms the

RE: WRB - Observations

2008-03-31 Thread William R. Buckley
Rich Shepard wrote: However, if you want to use open source applications built to open standards, then understand that almost all of these were originally build for linux or one of the *BSDs, those are the platforms the developers use, and making them available to the Windows

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-03-31 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 01:18:00PM -0700, William R. Buckley wrote: LyX supports Windows, Linux/Unix and Mac OS X and it should work fine on all these platforms. There is no reason why one of these platform should get more support than others. There surely is. There is no particular

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-03-31 Thread Michael Wojcik
rgheck wrote: Michael Wojcik wrote: I don't think this is a bug in Qt, though arguably it's a missing feature. Shortcuts are not first-class filesystem objects in Windows. They're files that are treated in a special manner by Windows Explorer. LyX uses Qt for its file dialogs, etc, so if

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-03-31 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 05:45:30PM -0400, Michael Wojcik wrote: rgheck wrote: Michael Wojcik wrote: I don't think this is a bug in Qt, though arguably it's a missing feature. Shortcuts are not first-class filesystem objects in Windows. They're files that are treated in a special manner by

RE: WRB - Observations

2008-03-31 Thread William R. Buckley
-Original Message- From: Michael Wojcik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 2:46 PM To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Subject: Re: WRB - Observations rgheck wrote: Michael Wojcik wrote: I don't think this is a bug in Qt, though arguably it's a missing feature

RE: WRB - Observations

2008-03-31 Thread William R. Buckley
PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 7:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: WRB - Observations On Monday 31 March 2008 19:19, William R. Buckley wrote: Please, it is not about how I would like things. Rather, it is not what one would expect, given familiarity with Windows

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-03-31 Thread Joost Verburg
William R. Buckley wrote: Well, the open source tool Maxima has no problem following a Windows shortcut in its browsing function. So, your position is therefore that LyX should be less than it might be, when other open source tools have no problem with a simple if arcane function. On my

RE: WRB - Observations

2008-03-31 Thread William R. Buckley
using? -Original Message- From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joost Verburg Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 8:37 PM To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Subject: Re: WRB - Observations William R. Buckley wrote: Well, the open source tool Maxima has no problem following a Windows

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-03-31 Thread Paul A. Rubin
Joost Verburg wrote: Paul A. Rubin wrote: I don't think so. Contrast the behavior of the Insert - Graphics dialog with the File - Open dialog. With both dialogs I get exactly the same behavior (the .lnk file is opened). File - Open hides shortcuts by default because it's looking for .lyx

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-03-31 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 11:57:47PM +0200, Joost Verburg wrote: Rich Shepard wrote: However, if you want to use open source applications built to open standards, then understand that almost all of these were originally build for linux or one of the *BSDs, those are the platforms the

RE: WRB - Observations

2008-03-31 Thread William R. Buckley
Rich Shepard wrote: However, if you want to use open source applications built to open standards, then understand that almost all of these were originally build for linux or one of the *BSDs, those are the platforms the developers use, and making them available to the Windows

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-03-31 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 01:18:00PM -0700, William R. Buckley wrote: LyX supports Windows, Linux/Unix and Mac OS X and it should work fine on all these platforms. There is no reason why one of these platform should get more support than others. There surely is. There is no particular

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-03-31 Thread Michael Wojcik
rgheck wrote: Michael Wojcik wrote: I don't think this is a bug in Qt, though arguably it's a missing feature. Shortcuts are not first-class filesystem objects in Windows. They're files that are treated in a special manner by Windows Explorer. LyX uses Qt for its file dialogs, etc, so if

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-03-31 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 05:45:30PM -0400, Michael Wojcik wrote: rgheck wrote: Michael Wojcik wrote: I don't think this is a bug in Qt, though arguably it's a missing feature. Shortcuts are not first-class filesystem objects in Windows. They're files that are treated in a special manner by

RE: WRB - Observations

2008-03-31 Thread William R. Buckley
-Original Message- From: Michael Wojcik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 2:46 PM To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Subject: Re: WRB - Observations rgheck wrote: Michael Wojcik wrote: I don't think this is a bug in Qt, though arguably it's a missing feature

RE: WRB - Observations

2008-03-31 Thread William R. Buckley
PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 7:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: WRB - Observations On Monday 31 March 2008 19:19, William R. Buckley wrote: Please, it is not about how I would like things. Rather, it is not what one would expect, given familiarity with Windows

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-03-31 Thread Joost Verburg
William R. Buckley wrote: Well, the open source tool Maxima has no problem following a Windows shortcut in its browsing function. So, your position is therefore that LyX should be less than it might be, when other open source tools have no problem with a simple if arcane function. On my

RE: WRB - Observations

2008-03-31 Thread William R. Buckley
using? -Original Message- From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joost Verburg Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 8:37 PM To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Subject: Re: WRB - Observations William R. Buckley wrote: Well, the open source tool Maxima has no problem following a Windows

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-03-31 Thread Paul A. Rubin
Joost Verburg wrote: Paul A. Rubin wrote: I don't think so. Contrast the behavior of the Insert -> Graphics dialog with the File -> Open dialog. With both dialogs I get exactly the same behavior (the .lnk file is opened). File -> Open hides shortcuts by default because it's looking for

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-03-31 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 11:57:47PM +0200, Joost Verburg wrote: > Rich Shepard wrote: >> However, if you want to use open source applications built >> to open standards, then understand that almost all of these were >> originally >> build for linux or one of the *BSDs, those are the platforms the

RE: WRB - Observations

2008-03-31 Thread William R. Buckley
> > Rich Shepard wrote: > >> However, if you want to use open source applications built to open > >> standards, then understand that almost all of these were > >> originally > >> build for linux or one of the *BSDs, those are the platforms the > >> developers use, and making them available to

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-03-31 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 01:18:00PM -0700, William R. Buckley wrote: > > > LyX supports Windows, Linux/Unix and Mac OS X and it should work > > > fine on all these platforms. There is no reason why one of these > > > platform should get more support than others. > > > > There surely is. There is

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-03-31 Thread Michael Wojcik
rgheck wrote: Michael Wojcik wrote: I don't think this is a bug in Qt, though arguably it's a missing feature. Shortcuts are not first-class filesystem objects in Windows. They're files that are treated in a special manner by Windows Explorer. LyX uses Qt for its file dialogs, etc, so if

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-03-31 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 05:45:30PM -0400, Michael Wojcik wrote: > rgheck wrote: >> Michael Wojcik wrote: >>> >>> I don't think this is a bug in Qt, though arguably it's a missing >>> feature. Shortcuts are not first-class filesystem objects in Windows. >>> They're files that are treated in a

RE: WRB - Observations

2008-03-31 Thread William R. Buckley
> -Original Message- > From: Michael Wojcik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 2:46 PM > To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org > Subject: Re: WRB - Observations > > rgheck wrote: > > Michael Wojcik wrote: > >> > >> I don't th

RE: WRB - Observations

2008-03-31 Thread William R. Buckley
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 7:57 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: WRB - Observations > > On Monday 31 March 2008 19:19, William R. Buckley wrote: > > > Please, it is not about how I would like things. Rather, it is not > > what

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-03-31 Thread Joost Verburg
William R. Buckley wrote: Well, the open source tool Maxima has no problem following a Windows shortcut in its browsing function. So, your position is therefore that LyX should be less than it might be, when other open source tools have no problem with a simple if arcane function. On my

RE: WRB - Observations

2008-03-31 Thread William R. Buckley
using? > -Original Message- > From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joost Verburg > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 8:37 PM > To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org > Subject: Re: WRB - Observations > > William R. Buckley wrote: > > Well, the open source tool Maxi

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-03-30 Thread Michael Wojcik
rgheck wrote: William R. Buckley wrote: I noticed that when trying to browse for the graphic file of a figure inserted into a document via the LyX user interface, and upon trying to utilise a shortcut (as the means to more efficiently select the proper directory that is to be browsed), it

RE: WRB - Observations

2008-03-30 Thread William R. Buckley
, but I digress). Otherwise, you have a product that does not really work in the Windows world. wrb -Original Message- From: Michael Wojcik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 11:24 AM To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Subject: Re: WRB - Observations rgheck wrote

RE: WRB - Observations

2008-03-30 Thread Rich Shepard
On Sun, 30 Mar 2008, William R. Buckley wrote: It is unreasonable to expect the entire Windows using community to avoid a mechanism that is part of the Windows operating system. However, William, I think it's reasonable to expect the entire Windows using community to defenestrate to linux,

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-03-30 Thread Joost Verburg
Rich Shepard wrote: However, if you want to use open source applications built to open standards, then understand that almost all of these were originally build for linux or one of the *BSDs, those are the platforms the developers use, and making them available to the Windows world is a

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-03-30 Thread Paul A. Rubin
Joost Verburg wrote: Rich Shepard wrote: However, if you want to use open source applications built to open standards, then understand that almost all of these were originally build for linux or one of the *BSDs, those are the platforms the developers use, and making them available to the

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-03-30 Thread Paul A. Rubin
William R. Buckley wrote: It is unreasonable to expect the entire Windows using community to avoid a mechanism that is part of the Windows operating system. The proper solution, distasteful as it may be, is to implement code which facilitates this *hack* (I always think of a hack as a desirable

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-03-30 Thread Joost Verburg
Paul A. Rubin wrote: I don't think so. Contrast the behavior of the Insert - Graphics dialog with the File - Open dialog. With both dialogs I get exactly the same behavior (the .lnk file is opened). File - Open hides shortcuts by default because it's looking for .lyx files while Insert -

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-03-30 Thread rgheck
Michael Wojcik wrote: rgheck wrote: William R. Buckley wrote: I noticed that when trying to browse for the graphic file of a figure inserted into a document via the LyX user interface, and upon trying to utilise a shortcut (as the means to more efficiently select the proper directory that is

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-03-30 Thread rgheck
rgheck wrote: Michael Wojcik wrote: rgheck wrote: William R. Buckley wrote: I noticed that when trying to browse for the graphic file of a figure inserted into a document via the LyX user interface, and upon trying to utilise a shortcut (as the means to more efficiently select the proper

RE: WRB - Observations

2008-03-30 Thread William R. Buckley
am reminded of the biblical warning, of not casting pearls. wrb -Original Message- From: Rich Shepard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 2:35 PM To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Subject: RE: WRB - Observations On Sun, 30 Mar 2008, William R. Buckley wrote

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-03-30 Thread Typhoon
On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 21:04:58 -0700 William R. Buckley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SNIP I am reminded of the biblical warning, of not casting pearls. I think that LyX is a pearl of great beauty. Alan wrb SNIP

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-03-30 Thread Michael Wojcik
rgheck wrote: William R. Buckley wrote: I noticed that when trying to browse for the graphic file of a figure inserted into a document via the LyX user interface, and upon trying to utilise a shortcut (as the means to more efficiently select the proper directory that is to be browsed), it

RE: WRB - Observations

2008-03-30 Thread William R. Buckley
, but I digress). Otherwise, you have a product that does not really work in the Windows world. wrb -Original Message- From: Michael Wojcik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 11:24 AM To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Subject: Re: WRB - Observations rgheck wrote

RE: WRB - Observations

2008-03-30 Thread Rich Shepard
On Sun, 30 Mar 2008, William R. Buckley wrote: It is unreasonable to expect the entire Windows using community to avoid a mechanism that is part of the Windows operating system. However, William, I think it's reasonable to expect the entire Windows using community to defenestrate to linux,

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-03-30 Thread Joost Verburg
Rich Shepard wrote: However, if you want to use open source applications built to open standards, then understand that almost all of these were originally build for linux or one of the *BSDs, those are the platforms the developers use, and making them available to the Windows world is a

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-03-30 Thread Paul A. Rubin
Joost Verburg wrote: Rich Shepard wrote: However, if you want to use open source applications built to open standards, then understand that almost all of these were originally build for linux or one of the *BSDs, those are the platforms the developers use, and making them available to the

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-03-30 Thread Paul A. Rubin
William R. Buckley wrote: It is unreasonable to expect the entire Windows using community to avoid a mechanism that is part of the Windows operating system. The proper solution, distasteful as it may be, is to implement code which facilitates this *hack* (I always think of a hack as a desirable

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-03-30 Thread Joost Verburg
Paul A. Rubin wrote: I don't think so. Contrast the behavior of the Insert - Graphics dialog with the File - Open dialog. With both dialogs I get exactly the same behavior (the .lnk file is opened). File - Open hides shortcuts by default because it's looking for .lyx files while Insert -

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-03-30 Thread rgheck
Michael Wojcik wrote: rgheck wrote: William R. Buckley wrote: I noticed that when trying to browse for the graphic file of a figure inserted into a document via the LyX user interface, and upon trying to utilise a shortcut (as the means to more efficiently select the proper directory that is

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-03-30 Thread rgheck
rgheck wrote: Michael Wojcik wrote: rgheck wrote: William R. Buckley wrote: I noticed that when trying to browse for the graphic file of a figure inserted into a document via the LyX user interface, and upon trying to utilise a shortcut (as the means to more efficiently select the proper

RE: WRB - Observations

2008-03-30 Thread William R. Buckley
am reminded of the biblical warning, of not casting pearls. wrb -Original Message- From: Rich Shepard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 2:35 PM To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Subject: RE: WRB - Observations On Sun, 30 Mar 2008, William R. Buckley wrote

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-03-30 Thread Typhoon
On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 21:04:58 -0700 William R. Buckley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SNIP I am reminded of the biblical warning, of not casting pearls. I think that LyX is a pearl of great beauty. Alan wrb SNIP

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-03-30 Thread Michael Wojcik
rgheck wrote: William R. Buckley wrote: I noticed that when trying to browse for the graphic file of a figure inserted into a document via the LyX user interface, and upon trying to utilise a shortcut (as the means to more efficiently select the proper directory that is to be browsed), it

RE: WRB - Observations

2008-03-30 Thread William R. Buckley
, but I digress). Otherwise, you have a product that does not really work in the Windows world. wrb > -Original Message- > From: Michael Wojcik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 11:24 AM > To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org > Subject: Re: WRB - Observati

RE: WRB - Observations

2008-03-30 Thread Rich Shepard
On Sun, 30 Mar 2008, William R. Buckley wrote: It is unreasonable to expect the entire Windows using community to avoid a mechanism that is part of the Windows operating system. However, William, I think it's reasonable to expect the entire Windows using community to defenestrate to linux,

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-03-30 Thread Joost Verburg
Rich Shepard wrote: However, if you want to use open source applications built to open standards, then understand that almost all of these were originally build for linux or one of the *BSDs, those are the platforms the developers use, and making them available to the Windows world is a

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-03-30 Thread Paul A. Rubin
Joost Verburg wrote: Rich Shepard wrote: However, if you want to use open source applications built to open standards, then understand that almost all of these were originally build for linux or one of the *BSDs, those are the platforms the developers use, and making them available to the

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-03-30 Thread Paul A. Rubin
William R. Buckley wrote: It is unreasonable to expect the entire Windows using community to avoid a mechanism that is part of the Windows operating system. The proper solution, distasteful as it may be, is to implement code which facilitates this *hack* (I always think of a hack as a desirable

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-03-30 Thread Joost Verburg
Paul A. Rubin wrote: I don't think so. Contrast the behavior of the Insert -> Graphics dialog with the File -> Open dialog. With both dialogs I get exactly the same behavior (the .lnk file is opened). File -> Open hides shortcuts by default because it's looking for .lyx files while Insert

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-03-30 Thread rgheck
Michael Wojcik wrote: rgheck wrote: William R. Buckley wrote: I noticed that when trying to browse for the graphic file of a figure inserted into a document via the LyX user interface, and upon trying to utilise a shortcut (as the means to more efficiently select the proper directory that is

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-03-30 Thread rgheck
rgheck wrote: Michael Wojcik wrote: rgheck wrote: William R. Buckley wrote: I noticed that when trying to browse for the graphic file of a figure inserted into a document via the LyX user interface, and upon trying to utilise a shortcut (as the means to more efficiently select the proper

RE: WRB - Observations

2008-03-30 Thread William R. Buckley
am reminded of the biblical warning, of not casting pearls. wrb > -Original Message- > From: Rich Shepard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 2:35 PM > To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org > Subject: RE: WRB - Observations > > On Sun, 30 Mar 2008, Wil

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-03-30 Thread Typhoon
On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 21:04:58 -0700 "William R. Buckley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I am reminded of the biblical warning, of not casting pearls. I think that LyX is a pearl of great beauty. Alan > > wrb

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-03-26 Thread rgheck
William R. Buckley wrote: Reminder - WindowsXP installation of LyX1.5.4/MikTeX2.7 I noticed that when trying to browse for the graphic file of a figure inserted into a document via the LyX user interface, and upon trying to utilise a shortcut (as the means to more efficiently select the proper

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-03-26 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
rgheck wrote: Another difficulty is with the inclusion of a citation (\cite[]{}) in a caption of a figure placed with the Float:Figure insert function of the LyX user interface.  I can easily hardcode the citation, and it may be that I just don't understand how to package the citation in

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-03-26 Thread rgheck
Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: Minipages? Sure: Insert-Box (a frameless Box is a minipage). However, as Richard said, LaTeX isn't designed for grid layout. It's not a DTP application. Box isn't very descriptive. I'd never have guessed this. Would there by objections to making it Minipage? or

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-03-26 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
rgheck wrote: Box isn't very descriptive. I'd never have guessed this. Would there by objections to making it Minipage? or Text Box? or ??? Minipage is a LaTeXism. And it can contain more than just text. Jürgen

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-03-26 Thread Uwe Stöhr
rgheck schrieb: LyX isn't that kind of program. It's not FrameMaker or Adobe Publisher or whatever. But LaTeX does have so-called minipages that can be used for this kind of purpose. As far as I know, LyX doesn't have any support for this, but of course you can do it manually via LaTeX in

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-03-26 Thread Rich Shepard
On Wed, 26 Mar 2008, Uwe Stöhr wrote: The placement of figures is now accomplished, though I do have some complaint about the *compliance* of LyX, vis-à-vis following directions in the placement of graphics. I do use the Float:Figure mechanism, and note that the options for placement are

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-03-26 Thread rgheck
Rich Shepard wrote: On Wed, 26 Mar 2008, Uwe Stöhr wrote: The placement of figures is now accomplished, though I do have some complaint about the *compliance* of LyX, vis-à-vis following directions in the placement of graphics. I do use the Float:Figure mechanism, and note that the options for

Re: Re: WRB - Observations

2008-03-26 Thread Todd Denniston
rgheck wrote, On 12/23/-28158 02:59 PM: div class=moz-text-flowed style=font-family: -moz-fixedJürgen Spitzmüller wrote: Minipages? Sure: Insert-Box (a frameless Box is a minipage). However, as Richard said, LaTeX isn't designed for grid layout. It's not a DTP application. Box isn't very

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-03-26 Thread Paul A. Rubin
Todd Denniston wrote: Minipages? Sure: Insert-Box (a frameless Box is a minipage). However, as Richard said, LaTeX isn't designed for grid layout. It's not a DTP application. Box isn't very descriptive. I'd never have guessed this. Would there by objections to making it Minipage? or

Re: WRB - Observations

2008-03-26 Thread rgheck
William R. Buckley wrote: Reminder - WindowsXP installation of LyX1.5.4/MikTeX2.7 I noticed that when trying to browse for the graphic file of a figure inserted into a document via the LyX user interface, and upon trying to utilise a shortcut (as the means to more efficiently select the proper

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