Re: Mac and daisy?

2012-07-26 Thread josh gregory
Gordon: If all I'm looking to do is play the books, navigate and stuff like that, will Olaria do that? On 7/26/12, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com wrote: There is no problem with copying daisy books across to the player on the Mac. Just put your daisy CD in the drive. Providing you

Xoom Office

2012-07-26 Thread Dónal Fitzpatrick
According to Humanware the ZoomOffice software will work under Lion but you have to install X11. I tried it with XQuartz but no joy; I got installation failed. is there another version of X11 I can try? I'm happy to play with this as I've a developer machine running mountain lion so if

Re: Mountain Lion - where are my private mail boxes?

2012-07-26 Thread Paul Hopewell
Hello Sarah, The hide / unhide mail boxes did not help. However when I tried to import a single private mail box into Apple Mail on Mountain Lion they all magically appeared in the list of mail boxes. Seems like there is a bit of a glitch here. Best wishes Paul Hopewell On 26 Jul 2012,

another mail bug or feature

2012-07-26 Thread Dónal Fitzpatrick
Hi, Yet another change to the Apple UI in Mountain Lion which is annoying the hell out of me is the change to the behaviour of tab or shift tab in Mail. Previously if I were on a message list I could hit shift-tab and go to the mailboxes list. Now, it takes me all over the place. Anyone else

Re: another mail bug or feature

2012-07-26 Thread Paul Hopewell
Hi Donald, yes it behaves for me the same as it does for you. It is annoying but I can live with it. Paul Hopewell On 26 Jul 2012, at 11:41, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie wrote: Hi, Yet another change to the Apple UI in Mountain Lion which is annoying the hell out of me

Re: another mail bug or feature

2012-07-26 Thread ShamelessFanGirl
Good morning, You can jump from the mailboxes list to the list of the messages contained within each by using cmd accent/whatever the key is just above the tab key. Just discovered that by accident, but I hope it helps someone. Have fun everyone, and continue playing! :) On Jul 26, 2012, at

Re: another mail bug or feature

2012-07-26 Thread Dónal Fitzpatrick
Not for me I'm afraid. Interestingly, vo-j jumps from mailboxes to messages, but not back. Incidentally, for those using a British keyboard, the accent key is to the left of Shift beside Z. On 26 Jul 2012, at 11:47, ShamelessFanGirl wrote: Good morning, You can jump from the mailboxes

Re: another mail bug or feature

2012-07-26 Thread Dónal Fitzpatrick
I've bugged that one as well Paul. A while back in fact. On 26 Jul 2012, at 11:46, Paul Hopewell wrote: Hi Donald, yes it behaves for me the same as it does for you. It is annoying but I can live with it. Paul Hopewell On 26 Jul 2012, at 11:41, Dónal Fitzpatrick

Re: Vmware not support in mountain lion: at least not yet

2012-07-26 Thread John Gunn
Gordon: I believe version 3 is for SL and anything below 3 is for Leopard. On Jul 26, 2012, at 5:32 AM, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: Colin Just to clarify. Version 4.1.1 works perfectly under Mountain Lion. So whoever started that rumour needs to check their facts. :)

Re: Vmware not support in mountain lion: at least not yet

2012-07-26 Thread Gordon Smith
Hi Sarah It's quite probable that version 3 won't work. There were a lot of OS changes since v3 was discontinued. Can you shed any light as to which version your contact(s) is/are running? Gordon On 26 Jul 2012, at 02:19, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: Hmm mm the error was this

Re: another mail bug or feature

2012-07-26 Thread Thomas McMahan
Same here, but don't often do that anyway. Interact in message so have to back out of that then just vo left arrow twice and there I am. But I remember the days of tiger when using tab went all over like now, that's probably why I never got into the habit of doing that. On Jul 26, 2012, at

Re: Vmware not support in mountain lion: at least not yet

2012-07-26 Thread Nicolai Svendsen
Hi, The latest VMWare Fusion works perfectly fine. The latest version is 4.1.3, but every 4.x version has worked without a hitch. VMWare may not be aware it works if they don't have the ability to test it, of course, which is where this might stem from. Either way, though, it works fine and

Re: another mail bug or feature

2012-07-26 Thread Gordon Smith
Hi Donal This has been the subject of much discussion. The only way I know to minimalist the change is to hide the Favourites bar and other things that I personally never use. Also, you might want to change the layout to Classic under the View preferences tab. Unfortunately though, Mail

Re: another mail bug or feature

2012-07-26 Thread Gordon Smith
That doesn't work for me, it never has in all the time i've been using ML. The best way I've found is to VO+Left/Right cursor twice. Gordon On 26 Jul 2012, at 11:47, ShamelessFanGirl shamelessfang...@gmail.com wrote: You can jump from the mailboxes list to the list of the messages contained

Re: Vmware not support in mountain lion: at least not yet

2012-07-26 Thread Gordon Smith
Hi John yes, I concur with that. This is why I stated that it wasn't going to work under Mountain Lion. Gordon On 26 Jul 2012, at 11:56, John Gunn g...@tznet.com wrote: I believe version 3 is for SL and anything below 3 is for Leopard. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to

Re: Vmware not support in mountain lion: at least not yet

2012-07-26 Thread Gordon Smith
The latest version is on our software site if anybody needs it, under /Virtualisation/Mac OS X/VMWare Fusion/VMware Fusion 4.1.3. Start here: https://files.mac-access.net/?login=software:software Gordon On 26 Jul 2012, at 12:51, Nicolai Svendsen chojiro1...@gmail.com wrote: The latest VMWare

Re: Vmware not support in mountain lion: at least not yet

2012-07-26 Thread william lomas
gordon et al i have 4.1.3 but my machine is not starting up On 26 Jul 2012, at 13:50, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: The latest version is on our software site if anybody needs it, under /Virtualisation/Mac OS X/VMWare Fusion/VMware Fusion 4.1.3. Start here:

Re: Vmware not support in mountain lion: at least not yet

2012-07-26 Thread Gordon Smith
Hi William This must be a local issue, it's worked here for ages and is working as I write. Make sure you have the very latest build to be sure of support but all the time I've used 4.1.x it has worked seamlessly. Gordon On 26 Jul 2012, at 13:51, william lomas will.d.lo...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: Why Mountain Lion?

2012-07-26 Thread Gordon Smith
Hi I guess it really depends upon your needs but there is one good reason I can think of which may not be at first apparent. Apple recently changed their security layer so that they can more easily rebut security threats. This is an under the hood kind of reason, but all the same. That

Re: Vmware not support in mountain lion: at least not yet

2012-07-26 Thread william lomas
guess ahve re-install my vm says it is running but no sound or anything On 26 Jul 2012, at 13:53, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: Hi William This must be a local issue, it's worked here for ages and is working as I write. Make sure you have the very latest build to be sure of

Re: another mail bug or feature

2012-07-26 Thread Dónal Fitzpatrick
Hi Gordon, I'm afraid I'm a demon for using generic keyboard access rather than screenreader commands when possible. I do this because if I'm on a machine with no screenreader I can still get around reasonably efficiently. I've used the VO-left/right to navigate. However to me it just seems

Re: Vmware not support in mountain lion: at least not yet

2012-07-26 Thread Gordon Smith
Make sure your sound card is connected in the devices list before you trash the VM. On 26 Jul 2012, at 14:01, william lomas will.d.lo...@gmail.com wrote: guess ahve re-install my vm says it is running but no sound or anything --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post,

Re: another mail bug or feature

2012-07-26 Thread Gordon Smith
Hi Donal Yes, I agree with you totally on that point. I much prefer to use OS key stroke for much the same reasons. However, look at this particular problem logically. Are you really going to be using Mail without a screen-reader? Gordon On 26 Jul 2012, at 14:07, Dónal Fitzpatrick

Re: another mail bug or feature

2012-07-26 Thread Dónal Fitzpatrick
probably not Gordon, but why fix something that isn't broken? If we look at how a sighted user navigates from messages to mailboxes it's a mousemovement and a click on the appropriate mailbox. Under Lion, it was one keystroke (albeit involving two keys) and the initial letters of the folder

Re: another mail bug or feature

2012-07-26 Thread Chris Moore
Using a machine that does not have screen reader access? Have I just warped onto the Windows or Linux mailing list? HINT; Press command and F5 on any Mac and you will get a screen reader! *Sticks tongue out! Chris On 26 Jul 2012, at 14:07, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie wrote:

Re: another mail bug or feature

2012-07-26 Thread Dónal Fitzpatrick
*claps hands* touché that man! :-) On 26 Jul 2012, at 14:32, Chris Moore wrote: Using a machine that does not have screen reader access? Have I just warped onto the Windows or Linux mailing list? HINT; Press command and F5 on any Mac and you will get a screen reader! *Sticks tongue out!

Re: Vmware not support in mountain lion: at least not yet

2012-07-26 Thread william lomas
it is that's what strange at least i think it is i'll double check On 26 Jul 2012, at 14:11, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: Make sure your sound card is connected in the devices list before you trash the VM. On 26 Jul 2012, at 14:01, william lomas will.d.lo...@gmail.com

Here is VMWare's Fusion compatibility FAQ [Was: Re: Vmware not support in mountain lion: at least not yet]

2012-07-26 Thread Bryan Jones
Below, I've pasted VMWare's brief (four question) FAQ regarding Fusion compatibility with Mountain Lion. This is copied directly from their blog at: http://blogs.vmware.com/teamfusion/2012/07/vmware-fusion-and-os-x-mountain-lion-faq.html Does VMware Fusion 4 work with Mountain Lion? Yes, the

Re: another mail bug or feature

2012-07-26 Thread Marcy Weinberg
Is this behavior the same with the preview pane closed? On Jul 26, 2012, at 8:28 AM, Gordon Smith wrote: Hi Donal This has been the subject of much discussion. The only way I know to minimalist the change is to hide the Favourites bar and other things that I personally never use. Also, you

Re: another mail bug or feature

2012-07-26 Thread Gordon Smith
Hi Donal This changed in Mountain Lion because of changes to the functionality and the on-screen display. Yes, it is bound to get up peoples noses for a while but, I don't know whether you remember, similar changes happened when we upgraded from Tiger to Leopard, from Leopard to Snow Leopard

Growl and mountain lion?

2012-07-26 Thread Missy Hoppe
Hi! I installed Mountain Lion last night, and on the whole, I'm very impressed. My bootcamp wasn't affected in the slightest, which was a huge relief. Since I was never all that fond of lion, I figured I had very little to lose by upgrading right away. Anyway, I know there are a lot of things I

Re: Here is VMWare's Fusion compatibility FAQ [Was: Re: Vmware not support in mountain lion: at least not yet]

2012-07-26 Thread Gordon Smith
This just confirms what I said earlier today. You have a choice of either sticking with what you have in terms of operating systems, (if your Windows VM is really so important to you), or else upgrading to the latest version of both VMware and Mac OS X. Why some are experiencing issues I

Re: another mail bug or feature

2012-07-26 Thread Gordon Smith
Hi Marcy I'm not sure since we have the preview panel disabled. Gordon On 26 Jul 2012, at 15:02, Marcy Weinberg marcy.weinbe...@gmail.com wrote: Is this behavior the same with the preview pane closed? --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your

Re: Growl and mountain lion?

2012-07-26 Thread josh gregory
You may not even need growl, what with notification center. It should alert you when a notification pops up, which was what growl pretty much did. Hmm never heard of hiss. Is it free? For settings, you want to set vo to display alerts instead of banners, if it's like how it is in iOS, which

RE: Growl and mountain lion?

2012-07-26 Thread Missy Hoppe
Hi! Thanks for the explanation. I'll change my settings in notification center; had it set to banners, but if alerts work better, then I'll use them instead. Notification center is awesome, but doesn't read changes in dropbox, and can't be configured to use the system voice. I've found an

Any progress?

2012-07-26 Thread Christo Thiardt
Hello thanks to Gordon for answering my question regarding changing to Mountain Lion. Is there improvement in navigating web pages especially vertical cursoring? Any improvement in accessibility of tables? Many thanks in anticipation. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this

Re: Growl and mountain lion?

2012-07-26 Thread josh gregory
Hey you too! :) um... go down the list of apps in the settings in notification center. If there's one, lol. Is dropbox one of them? Yeah, alerts definitely work better. As long as you don't get a lot of iMessages to the point where it's really annoying, or anything like that, you should be fine,

RE: Growl and mountain lion?

2012-07-26 Thread Missy Hoppe
Nope, dropbox isn't listed. Thought I heard that notification center doesn't support 3rd party apps yet. I'll just look forward to the growl update that will probably be coming out soon. I don't use Imessage yet, so alerts shouldn't cause too much of an issue. Thanks again for your help! Missy

Bento 4 VO issue under Mountain Lion [Was: Re: Bento4 Mac]

2012-07-26 Thread Bryan Jones
Hi Lynne, Gordon and Others, Just following up on this issue. Now that I've upgraded to Mountain Lion, you can add me to the list of folks who are stuck listening to the incessant Bento busy, Bento ready issue when launching the application. Bento was nicely accessible under Lion and I've

Re: Growl and mountain lion?

2012-07-26 Thread josh gregory
It's np, and I'm sure it soon will. It does in iOS, and I imagine a major update wouldn't be required, just system software update. But that I don't know, and I'm looking forward to it same as you if this is the case. Np again :) On 7/26/12, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: Nope, dropbox

Re: Growl and mountain lion?

2012-07-26 Thread Justin Ekis
Hi. I'm not sure what the problem is with Browl and DropBox, but I haven't been getting notifications for dropbox since growl 1.3 came out in the Mac App Store. Other notifications work, just not DropBox. I haven't upgraded to Mountain Lion yet and can't speak about that specifically, but

RE: Growl and mountain lion?

2012-07-26 Thread Missy Hoppe
I was just getting ready to post to the list. I have no idea what changed; I didn't touch anything as far as I know, but I have the mac on and just got told about a file changing in dropbox. So, it seems as though it's actually working for the moment. I'm sure it will be a lot more stable and

Re: Growl and mountain lion?

2012-07-26 Thread josh gregory
Hey Missy. Maybe you can help me install it? Dropbox that is? Cause every time I launch it, there are no windows. I'll look again but I think thats what happened the last time I tried. It launches at startup with no windows, too. On 7/26/12, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: I was just

RE: Growl and mountain lion?

2012-07-26 Thread Missy Hoppe
Hmm. I could try. Not sure where you're running into trouble. I'll send you the link to my growl/dropbox demo. Maybe it will help. If not, I'll try to think of another way to help. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1770137/Growl%20demo.mp3 If this doesn't help, let me know. -Original Message-

Re: Growl and mountain lion?

2012-07-26 Thread Justin Ekis
This situation is a little weird. Notification center actually does support third party apps, but only apps on the Mac App Store. Apple's Idea is to reserve certain OS X features as exclusive to the App Store, to try to convince developers to use it. As another example, only App Store apps can

Re: Growl and mountain lion?

2012-07-26 Thread josh gregory
Couple things: Those growl things sound awesome!! Second, no, I'm actually having trouble installing dropbox itself. Third, how did you get the akapella voices on mac? The Ryan one's cool, Heather is too, :) On 7/26/12, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: Hmm. I could try. Not sure where

RE: Growl and mountain lion?

2012-07-26 Thread Missy Hoppe
You can get the acapella voices from assistiveware.com. I love them. Still use Alex for VO, but Tracy is fantastic as my default system voice. Not sure what to tell you about installing dropbox itself. I'd suggest going to their site and making sure you have the newest version. There might be

Re: Growl and mountain lion?

2012-07-26 Thread josh gregory
Oh I see!!! I did see something about sandboxing in the osx mountain lion thing. On 7/26/12, Justin Ekis je...@me.com wrote: This situation is a little weird. Notification center actually does support third party apps, but only apps on the Mac App Store. Apple's Idea is to reserve certain OS X

Re: Growl and mountain lion?

2012-07-26 Thread josh gregory
Just one more thing. Are the akapella voices free? On 7/26/12, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: You can get the acapella voices from assistiveware.com. I love them. Still use Alex for VO, but Tracy is fantastic as my default system voice. Not sure what to tell you about installing

RE: Growl and mountain lion?

2012-07-26 Thread Missy Hoppe
Oh no no no! They're not free. I wish they were. I paid about $200 to get all of the US and UK english voices. I think they're less expensive now, but am not sure. They've changed the purchasing scheme slightly. You'll need to research it at the assistiveware site. -Original Message-

Re: Growl and mountain lion?

2012-07-26 Thread josh gregory
Oh ok, well thanks! :) On 7/26/12, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: Oh no no no! They're not free. I wish they were. I paid about $200 to get all of the US and UK english voices. I think they're less expensive now, but am not sure. They've changed the purchasing scheme slightly. You'll

Re: Any progress?

2012-07-26 Thread Mike Arrigo
There was nothing mentioned about these in mountain lion, personally I don't see what else could really be done, navigation works fine on the web. On Jul 26, 2012, at 2:36 PM, Christo Thiardt wrote: Hello thanks to Gordon for answering my question regarding changing to Mountain Lion. Is

dropbox and lion

2012-07-26 Thread Shaun Oliver
Hi all, I've just tried to install and run dropbox on lion. the issue is, dropbox opens, but has no windows to interact with. how do I get around this so I can login and start using dropbox? --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to

Re: dropbox and lion

2012-07-26 Thread josh gregory
um... idk i've had that too :( On 7/26/12, Shaun Oliver blindma...@gmail.com wrote: the thing is, it's still running in the background even now, and can't even find a process to kill it so I can start again On 27/07/2012, at 11:16 AM, josh gregory wrote: See thats what I meant :) I think if

Re: dropbox and lion

2012-07-26 Thread Shaun Oliver
the thing is, it's still running in the background even now, and can't even find a process to kill it so I can start again On 27/07/2012, at 11:16 AM, josh gregory wrote: See thats what I meant :) I think if you do a show package contents on dropbox there might be an accessible installer

Re: dropbox and lion

2012-07-26 Thread moriond
Hi Josh and Shaun, If you search the archives at the Mail Archive site by typing dropbox no windows in the text search box and pressing return, it will immediately bring up Gordon's post from a week and a half ago, about the solution to this as the first link:

Re: dropbox and lion

2012-07-26 Thread Thomas McMahan
Have to turn it off in activity monitor. It's strange it would just run without your log in credentials. Have you ever ran dropbox on that machine in the past? If so then it maybe have been retained in your log in items thus it's logged in. If so then share a file and see if recipient sees

Re: dropbox and lion

2012-07-26 Thread Shaun Oliver
thanks for this, I'll give it a go. On 27/07/2012, at 11:41 AM, mori...@mac.com wrote: Hi Josh and Shaun, If you search the archives at the Mail Archive site by typing dropbox no windows in the text search box and pressing return, it will immediately bring up Gordon's post from a week

Re: dropbox and lion

2012-07-26 Thread josh gregory
Hi, what Gordon suggested worked for me. Activity monitor was a bit tricky at first, but easy enough to figure out. On 7/26/12, Shaun Oliver blindma...@gmail.com wrote: thanks for this, I'll give it a go. On 27/07/2012, at 11:41 AM, mori...@mac.com wrote: Hi Josh and Shaun, If you search

Re: dropbox and lion

2012-07-26 Thread Shaun Oliver
I went and found the pid and killed it in the terminal having had some *nix background. I wasn't sure how to use activity monitor to disable it. I now have it running, but, not sure where things are after that. no matter, some poking around should help me thinks. On 27/07/2012, at 1:18 PM,

iPhone calendar

2012-07-26 Thread Glenn
Hi All, I am having problems entering a calendar event. Every time I get so far into an entry, it closes the calendar, usually when I try to set it as an all day event. Is there a way to set a calendar event by speaking to the phone? Normally, I dislike talking to my phone for such things, but

videos on the i-phone

2012-07-26 Thread michael weaver
is there a way of easily navigating eppisodes of a video on the i-phone 4? i ask because i have managed to find some classic doctor who on i-tunes only the eppisode numbers and years are read out so i have to go through the videos in order to find the next eppisode to a story. --- Mac Access

Re: Bento 4 VO issue under Mountain Lion [Was: Re: Bento4 Mac]

2012-07-26 Thread Gordon Smith
Hi Bryan This is very, very interesting indeed. I'm sorry that you're having problems, but on the other hand I'm glad it's not only me who is. I couldn't talk about it at the time in as much detail as I would have liked. But yes, I was running Mountain Lion when Lynne first reported this

Re: Any progress?

2012-07-26 Thread Gordon Smith
Actually, I find that I can sometimes vertically manipulate tables. It depends very much on how the web table is constructed. Where VoiceOver does have a massive weakness which I reported to Apple a very long time ago, is with sites that use Ajax. VoiceOver users struggle on such sites,

Re: dropbox and lion

2012-07-26 Thread Gordon Smith
Now that you've ran the application once, you'll need to remove it from your log-in items. Then, reboot the machine and delete the application from /applications. Then, reopen the disk image and run the app from there. Do not, I say again, do not copy the app to /applications yourself. Once

RE: iPhone calendar

2012-07-26 Thread Paula Hobley
Hi Glenn How are you? Have you by any chance a Mac with Mountain Lion on it? One way to get around this would be to enter the calendar event into the Calendar in Mountain Lion by pressing Command with N and adding it as a quick event, then it will automatically go to your phone. Take care

dropbox notifications was Re: Growl and mountain lion?

2012-07-26 Thread Diane Bomar
Notification center supports apps like groupon, instacast, woot, amazon, etc. Why wouldn't it support dropbox notification? - Original Message - From: Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com To: 'Mac OSX iOS Accessibility' mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 2:04 PM