Re: [Mac-Access]: enough!

2015-05-25 Thread sadam ahmed
Well said. Even when the list was active I personally did not find it very helpful at all. But this is getting fucking ridiculous. I have tried everything and I can't seem to unsubscribe. Receiving. Multiple. Emails. Is no fun at all! Frankly you should be ashamed of yourself Mr Gordon.

Re: [Mac-Access]: How to leave the list

2015-05-25 Thread Eleanor Martha Burke
Indeed not Ann, but a very valuable list member from whom I personally have learned a lot, particularly in my early days. It is a pity that people are wishing to leave because I am sure the issue is not deliberate. Eleanor - Original Message - From: Anne Robertson To: OS X iOS

Re: [Mac-Access]: How to leave the list

2015-05-25 Thread Eleanor Martha Burke
Are you saying Ann has given an incorrect address to unsubscribe Chris?s - Original Message - From: christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Monday, May 25, 2015 8:33 AM Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: How to leave the list

[Mac-Access]: voiceover automatic language detection on mac?

2015-05-25 Thread Michael Marshall
hey all, something has been bugging me ever since i started using VO on the mac. if i have a german voice installed and i find german text VO can not detect and switch to german. on IOS language dictionaries are built into VO so an iPhone can do it automatically. even if i could change

Re: [Mac-Access]: How to leave the list

2015-05-25 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Chris, Yes,you’re right. Sorry about that. It should be: mac-access-le...@mac-access.net mailto:mac-access-le...@mac-access.net Cheers, Anne On 25 May 2015, at 09:33, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: No wonder it may not work; there is an extra dash after the

[Mac-Access]: How to leave the list

2015-05-25 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello everyone, I’m not a moderator, so don’t shoot me down! I think this will work for leaving the list which is using SurgeMail. Send a message to: mac-access-lea...@mac-access.net mailto:mac-access-lea...@mac-access.net The subject and body do not matter. Cheers, Anne

Re: [Mac-Access]: How to leave the list

2015-05-25 Thread christopher hallsworth
Effectively I am because of the extra dash after the word leave. On 25 May 2015, at 09:40, Eleanor Martha Burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote: Are you saying Ann has given an incorrect address to unsubscribe Chris?s - Original Message - From: christopher hallsworth

Re: [Mac-Access]: help with pages

2015-05-25 Thread Eleanor Martha Burke
Indeed Ann, I found it brilliant as a beginner last year. Eleanor - Original Message - From: Anne Robertson To: mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Monday, May 25, 2015 9:52 AM Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: help with pages Hello Margaret, Have you tried Tim Sniffen’s free

Re: [Mac-Access]: How to leave the list

2015-05-25 Thread Eleanor Martha Burke
Thanks Chris, having great confidence in what yourself and Anne say this is why I was querying it. Eleanor - Original Message - From: christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Monday, May 25, 2015 9:46 AM Subject: Re:

Re: [Mac-Access]: How to leave the list

2015-05-25 Thread christopher hallsworth
No wonder it may not work; there is an extra dash after the word leave. On 25 May 2015, at 08:31, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote: Hello everyone, I’m not a moderator, so don’t shoot me down! I think this will work for leaving the list which is using SurgeMail. Send a message

Re: [Mac-Access]: help with pages

2015-05-25 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Margaret, Have you tried Tim Sniffen’s free iBook, Mastering the Macintosh with VoiceOver”? A lot of people have found it very useful and it covers using Pages. Cheers, Anne On 25 May 2015, at 07:56, Margaret Booth margaretebo...@gmail.com wrote: I’m helping a friend of mine to

Re: [Mac-Access]: voiceover automatic language detection on mac?

2015-05-25 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Michael, You can change the voice on the fly by pressing VO-Cmd-Down Arrow as long as you leave the voice rotor on voice. I do this all the time between English and French. Cheers, Anne On 25 May 2015, at 11:35, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote: hey all, something

[Mac-Access]: Unsubscribe

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Re: [Mac-Access]: voiceover automatic language detection on mac?

2015-05-25 Thread Michael Marshall
thanks that should help me for now. lets hope they bring detection to the mac like on IOS On 25 May 2015, at 8:08 pm, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote: Hello Michael, You can change the voice on the fly by pressing VO-Cmd-Down Arrow as long as you leave the voice rotor on voice.

Re: [Mac-Access]: voiceover automatic language detection on mac?

2015-05-25 Thread Michael Marshall
hey, might just do that. do you have an address i can send it to? On 25 May 2015, at 10:07 pm, Eleanor Martha Burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote: Drop Apple an e-mail suggesting it. - Original Message - From: Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com To: mac access

Re: [Mac-Access]: voiceover automatic language detection on mac?

2015-05-25 Thread Eleanor Martha Burke
Drop Apple an e-mail suggesting it. - Original Message - From: Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com To: mac access mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Monday, May 25, 2015 12:57 PM Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: voiceover automatic language detection on mac? thanks that should help me

Re: [Mac-Access]: voiceover automatic language detection on mac?

2015-05-25 Thread Eleanor Martha Burke
I think it is accessibility at apple.com. On 25 May 2015, at 13:16, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote: hey, might just do that. do you have an address i can send it to? On 25 May 2015, at 10:07 pm, Eleanor Martha Burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote: Drop Apple an

[Mac-Access]: Please unsubscribe my email from this list.

2015-05-25 Thread April Brown
Please unsubscribe my email from this list. I can find no way to do so. I used to recieve one email a month, now there were over 50 yesteday,. April Brown

[Mac-Access]: Re: Please unsubscribe my email from this list.

2015-05-25 Thread April Brown
On May 25, 2015, at 9:06 AM, April Brown aprilbrownsh...@gmail.com wrote: Please unsubscribe my email from this list. I can find no way to do so. I used to recieve one email a month, now there were over 50 yesteday,. On May 25, 2015, at 9:05 AM, April Brown

RE: [Mac-Access]: Please unsubscribe my email from this list.

2015-05-25 Thread Brian Hartgen
Please unsubscribe me as well. Thank you. From: April Brown [mailto:aprilbrownsh...@gmail.com] Sent: 25 May 2015 14:06 To: mac-access-requ...@mac-access.net Subject: [Mac-Access]: Please unsubscribe my email from this list. Please unsubscribe my email from this list. I can find no

RE: [Mac-Access]: Please unsubscribe my email from this list.

2015-05-25 Thread Jackie Brown
Yes me too, this is not fair to any of us! Kind Regards, Jackie Brown Emails: mailto:thebrownspl...@btinternet.com thebrownspl...@btinternet.com mailto:jackieannbrow...@gmail.com jackieannbrow...@gmail.com mailto:jac...@thebrownsplace.info jac...@thebrownsplace.info Check out my

Re: [Mac-Access]: enough!

2015-05-25 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
I saw them on Skype but as soon as I called, the call was immediately rejected. Weird, too, considerring that their status wasn't set to away nor busy. It said flat out, online. Chris. - Original Message - From: Roger Firman roger.fir...@btinternet.com To:

Re: [Mac-Access]: Re: Please unsubscribe my email from this list.

2015-05-25 Thread Angela Delicata
For the last time, I need to unsubscribe fro mthis sort of mailing list... you are not respecting my privacy. Il 25/05/2015 15:06, April Brown ha scritto: Please unsubscribe my email from this list. I can find no way to do so. I used to recieve one email a month, now there were over 50

Re: [Mac-Access]: How to leave the list

2015-05-25 Thread Chris Gilland
I suppose that you could definitely set up an email filter, but in the long run, I'm just not totally sure how much that would really help matters. Sorry about that! I wish that I could tell you more! Chris. Sent from my iPhone On May 25, 2015, at 11:22, Henry Miller

Re: [Mac-Access]: Re: Please unsubscribe my email from this list.

2015-05-25 Thread Chris Gilland
no offense… But with all due respect… We get your point the first time, the second time, and now the third! Did you not get my email that I sent you off list? I may be able to help you. Write me privately. Sent from my iPhone On May 25, 2015, at 10:50, Angela Delicata

Re: [Mac-Access]: Phone book app

2015-05-25 Thread Sarah k Alawami
I just use the Yellow pages app on ios to look up a number then save it to my contacts. or I will use free411.com http://free411.com/ which is a website thats a bit cluttered but it works. On May 24, 2015, at 6:27 PM, Juanita Martin jordmar...@suddenlink.net wrote: USA Texas. Sent from my

RE: [Mac-Access]: enough!

2015-05-25 Thread Roger Firman
Dear David and List members, I've tried to make contact with those responsible for this list but any email addresses I have are being rejected. I can't explain what is going on, however, if anyone knows how to make contact then that would be very helpful as it is possible they are unaware of

Re: [Mac-Access]: enough!

2015-05-25 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
I definitely agree 150% that the language is uncalled for! That said however, I feel his frustration. Chris. - Original Message - From: Eileen To: mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Monday, May 25, 2015 10:14 AM Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: enough! Okay!!! Now, does foul

Re: [Mac-Access]: enough!

2015-05-25 Thread Eileen
Okay!!! Now, does foul language have to come into play? There's no room for that. I'm just going through all the numerous email traffic in my email account and Ann Roberts gave a corrected email address that will take you off list. And another thing, you try running a list serve when working

Re: [Mac-Access]: enough!

2015-05-25 Thread Glenn / Lenny
These people wanting to leave the list might feel differently if they knew what I went through the eyes-free list with with GoogleGroups. For those who don't know, the eyes-free list is for Android users. It gets at least 200 messages a day, and it is unmoderated. My ISP had just switched to

Re: [Mac-Access]: enough!

2015-05-25 Thread Eleanor Martha Burke
I think that is unfair assumption, as I have just tried to call somebody on Skype or is exceptionally helpful to me and I just keep getting disconnected. On 25 May 2015, at 15:48, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: I saw them on Skype but as soon as I called, the call

Re: [Mac-Access]: help with pages

2015-05-25 Thread Sarah k Alawami
The one thing I'd wish they would fix and I've reported it about 20 times now is the inability to select text that span multiple pages. I've verified this is a voice over bug by shutting off voice over and selecting multiple pages. Looks likeI have to keep reporting that one. Take care. On

Re: [Mac-Access]: Re: Please unsubscribe my email from this list.

2015-05-25 Thread Eleanor Martha Burke
you are only adding extra traffic to the list if you have said it once and if anyone can add to your to your request I am sure they will. On 25 May 2015, at 15:50, Angela Delicata angeladelic...@email.it wrote: For the last time, I need to unsubscribe fro mthis sort of mailing list... you

Re: [Mac-Access]: enough!

2015-05-25 Thread Chris Gilland
actually, I hate to bust your bubble, but it actually disconnected by giving me an error message directly that said the call was rejected on the receiving end. so actually, no it wasn't unfair considering the fact that I was given that error message very specifically, and very directly.

Re: [Mac-Access]: enough!

2015-05-25 Thread Ismael Herrera
It's crazy, why is it so difficult to bring down the server? Sent from my iPhone On May 25, 2015, at 7:48 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: I saw them on Skype but as soon as I called, the call was immediately rejected. Weird, too, considerring that their status

RE: [Mac-Access]: How to leave the list

2015-05-25 Thread Henry Miller
Hi Ann and Chris I have tried your suggestions below and unfortunatley I am not unsubscribed. I am very grateful for all the help I have received from members on this list over the last few months, and my reasons for leaving are that I wish to reduce my email traffic. There is no

RE: [Mac-Access]: enough!

2015-05-25 Thread David Griffith
I can understand the frustration. I have been trying also to unsubscribe using the recommended email address without success. I would suggest that the administrator of this list needs to take it down completely until things work properly. David Griffith David Griffith -Original

Re: [Mac-Access]: voiceover automatic language detection on mac?

2015-05-25 Thread Sarah k Alawami
You can always email accessibil...@apple.com mailto:accesibil...@apple.com and report the feature as if it were a bug. I do this all the time and send them like 2-3 page usage reports. They appreciate it and tell me so. Take care. On May 25, 2015, at 4:57 AM, Michael Marshall

Re: [Mac-Access]: help with pages

2015-05-25 Thread Sarah k Alawami
To use styles you need to do that through the formatter. People keep asking me to do either a written or audio guide on how to use pages. I'm thinking of doing both, but it will take time. To access the templets after you create a new document is not possible. but you can save your new

Re: [Mac-Access]: enough!

2015-05-25 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Roger, I, too, have been unable to contact Gordon today and my problems are much worse than just unwanted e-mail traffic. Gordon hosts my website and it’s been down for over three weeks now. We were in contact over the week-end, but today, nothing. I can tell you that the mail server is

Re: [Mac-Access]: Phone book app

2015-05-25 Thread Joseph Hudson
I just use the Yellow pages app on ios to look up a number then save it to my contacts. or I will use free411.com http://free411.com/ which is a website thats a bit cluttered but it works. On May 24, 2015, at 6:27 PM, Juanita Martin jordmar...@suddenlink.net mailto:jordmar...@suddenlink.net

Re: [Mac-Access]: enough!

2015-05-25 Thread Eileen
Hi Ann, I'm so sorry to hear that. That's unexceptable, since you run a business from your web site. I believe that those who are on the list serve received the last email from George over the weakend. I hope there's nothing seriously wrong with him or if all of this has gone belly up. In the

Re: [Mac-Access]: How to leave the list

2015-05-25 Thread christopher hallsworth
I tried this, but it didn't work. I got nothing back. On 25 May 2015, at 09:47, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote: Hello Chris, Yes,you’re right. Sorry about that. It should be: mac-access-le...@mac-access.net Cheers, Anne On 25 May 2015, at 09:33, christopher

Re: [Mac-Access]: How to leave the list

2015-05-25 Thread jazzyjennifer
i want to un subscribe. and i got nothing back, On 5/25/2015 2:28 PM, christopher hallsworth wrote: I have not unsubscribed either, but didn't want to. I just sent the request to see if it would work. I got nothing back. On 25 May 2015, at 16:22, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk wrote:

RE: [Mac-Access]: How to leave the list

2015-05-25 Thread Mike Townsend
Hi I tried to unsubscribe. No luck. So, if this doesn't stop soon, I shall report it as spam. Thanks. Mike -Original Message- From: jazzyjennifer [mailto:jwens2...@gmail.com] Sent: 25 May 2015 20:11 To: mac-access@mac-access.net Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: How to leave the list i want to

Re: [Mac-Access]: How to leave the list

2015-05-25 Thread Eleanor Martha Burke
well you are still here with us Chris and that is great. On 25 May 2015, at 19:28, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: I have not unsubscribed either, but didn't want to. I just sent the request to see if it would work. I got nothing back. On 25 May 2015, at 16:22,

Re: [Mac-Access]: help with pages

2015-05-25 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Sarah, There’s a way of fixing the selecting text problem that was posted to another list. When I lay my hands on it, I’ll post it here. Cheers, Anne On 25 May 2015, at 19:00, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: The one thing I'd wish they would fix and I've reported it about

Re: [Mac-Access]: enough!

2015-05-25 Thread sadam ahmed
Just a couple of points. 1. I tried the suggestion made by Ms Ann no dice. 2. As another list member has pointed out a simple email informing people that they are back online would have sufficed. Please don't make excuses for Gordon's incompetence. Simply harvesting everyone's email

Re: [Mac-Access]: help with pages

2015-05-25 Thread Ann Byrne
Is there a way to convert an iBook to a .txt or .rtf file to be read on a portable player??? At 03:52 AM 5/25/2015, you wrote: Hello Margaret, Have you tried Tim Sniffen’s free iBook, Mastering the Macintosh with VoiceOver”? A lot of people have found it very useful and it covers

Re: [Mac-Access]: How to leave the list

2015-05-25 Thread christopher hallsworth
I have not unsubscribed either, but didn't want to. I just sent the request to see if it would work. I got nothing back. On 25 May 2015, at 16:22, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk wrote: Hi Ann and Chris I have tried your suggestions below and unfortunatley I am not

Re: [Mac-Access]: How to leave the list

2015-05-25 Thread jazzyjennifer
i know man i tryed to un subscribe too. On 5/25/2015 3:21 PM, Mike Townsend wrote: Hi I tried to unsubscribe. No luck. So, if this doesn't stop soon, I shall report it as spam. Thanks. Mike -Original Message- From: jazzyjennifer [mailto:jwens2...@gmail.com] Sent: 25 May 2015 20:11 To:

Re: [Mac-Access]: help with pages

2015-05-25 Thread Sarah k Alawami
That would be grate. That seems to be the only show stopper, that and the naming of tables problem and the table of contents, but other then that, pages is very much usable; I passed my class thesis with it. Wahoo! Blessings to all. On May 25, 2015, at 12:00 PM, Anne Robertson

Re: [Mac-Access]: help with pages

2015-05-25 Thread Eleanor Martha Burke
no. On 25 May 2015, at 22:00, Ann Byrne ann...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Is there a way to convert an iBook to a .txt or .rtf file to be read on a portable player??? At 03:52 AM 5/25/2015, you wrote: Hello Margaret, Have you tried Tim Sniffen’s free iBook, Mastering the Macintosh

Re: [Mac-Access]: enough!

2015-05-25 Thread gs
In the interest of continuity, if the list owner cannot run the list, it probably needs to be migrated to a general email list service provider where service is relatively free of uptime issues such as we have experienced and transferred to another list administrator who has the time to

RE: [Mac-Access]: help with pages

2015-05-25 Thread Margaret Booth
I have heard of this book before. No I haven’t read it. I know you can get it in iBook’s but do you know if I can get it elsewhere? If you can where? Margaret From: Anne Robertson [mailto:a...@anarchie.org.uk] Sent: Monday, 25 May 2015 6:52 PM To: mac-access@mac-access.net Subject: Re:

Re: [Mac-Access]: voiceover automatic language detection on mac?

2015-05-25 Thread Michael Marshall
i think the mac could really do with this. i will do it today. On 26 May 2015, at 2:57 am, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: You can always email accessibil...@apple.com mailto:accesibil...@apple.com and report the feature as if it were a bug. I do this all the time and send them

Re: [Mac-Access]: voiceover automatic language detection on mac?

2015-05-25 Thread Michael Marshall
thanks i will look in to that e-mail. Michael On 25 May 2015, at 10:54 pm, Eleanor Martha Burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote: I think it is accessibility at apple.com. On 25 May 2015, at 13:16, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote: hey, might just do that. do

RE: [Mac-Access]: help with pages

2015-05-25 Thread Margaret Booth
Thanks for your help. How do you get to the formatter? Margaret From: Sarah k Alawami [mailto:marri...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, 26 May 2015 2:59 AM To: mac access list iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: help with pages To use styles you need to do that through the

Re: [Mac-Access]: creating a folder in mail

2015-05-25 Thread Sarah k Alawami
1. Launch mail. 2. go to the end of the mail window where it says new mail box 3. vo space on that and choose new mail box 4. Decide if you want the mail box to be in the main part of your mac or in your account's side by choosing that in the drop down combo box that appears. 5. vo right to the

Re: [Mac-Access]: help with pages

2015-05-25 Thread Sarah k Alawami
I think cmd option I shows and hides the inspector. you can change to the formater part in the tool bar by checking the fomater radio button. I'm normally a longer email sender, but it's pretty late here. so hope this helps for now. Take care. On May 25, 2015, at 6:44 PM, Margaret Booth

[Mac-Access]: creating a folder in mail

2015-05-25 Thread Margaret Booth
Can someone please tell me how I can create a folder in Mail on my Mac book pro. Margaret

[Mac-Access]: Pages, selecting text across page boundaries

2015-05-25 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello everyone, Here is the fix for this problem. Open a TextEdit document and paste in the following without the quotes: { ^y = yankAndSelect:; //control-y ^\@ = setMark:; //control-@ ^w = deleteToMark:; //control-w ^x = { //control-x control-x ^x = selectToMark:; }; ^ = setMark:;

Re: [Mac-Access]: help with pages

2015-05-25 Thread RATTRAY J.
hi, one question re pages how do I get voiceover to read track changes and comments - I use pages a lot and for the most part really like it - experienced the same problems as you re selecting text that goes over multiple pages so if Ann could post the solution to that I would love it. But the