Re: lost path settings and funky cpan

2002-09-23 Thread Michael Maibaum
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday, Sep 22, 2002, at 22:08 US/Pacific, Puneet Kishor wrote: two odd things I have noticed since clean upgrading to OS X 10.2 1. path settings seem to be changed. one examples -- (1) Dan Kogai's lifesaving psync sitting under

Re: OS Poll

2002-09-23 Thread William H. Magill
On Saturday, September 21, 2002, at 02:20 PM, Sherm Pendley wrote: On Saturday, September 21, 2002, at 01:15 PM, Rich Michaela wrote: when the stuff they write requires their proprietary HW to run. (If the rumors of an Intel version are true that may change. To begin with, I highly

Re: OS Poll

2002-09-23 Thread Andrew M. Langmead
On Sat, Sep 21, 2002 at 01:40:44PM -0400, Chris Devers wrote: for example -- but the system feels *a lot* less stable to me than 10.1 did, I've seen kernel panics for the first time in almost a year, But Chris, the new kernel panic display was so much improved, you called co-workers over to

mysqldump perl script via crontab problems

2002-09-23 Thread douglas mcdonald
I'm having a problem running a backup script through cron. The script runs perfectly from the command line, but when I run it through cron I end up with an empty file. This is presumably because the mysqldump is not recognized as a sh command (which it's not, understandably). What I need is a

Re: Perl DBD-Pg 1.13 on Mac OS X 10.2

2002-09-23 Thread Raffaele Conte
I have already spoken with David by way dbi-users mailing list, but I have not still resolved the problem. Adam Witney suggests that the error depends on dlcompact. I have installed the dlcompact (version 20020913 fixed for Jaguar) from osxgnu site (www.osxgnu.org) but the problem persists.

Re: AppleScript to Perl w/SOAP

2002-09-23 Thread Phil Dobbin
On 23/9/02 03:18, Randal L. Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Phil == Phil Dobbin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Phil As usual, the Perl section of this works flawlessly but the Applescript Phil doo-dah chokes around: Phil Phil set output_file to

Re: Perl DBD-Pg 1.13 on Mac OS X 10.2

2002-09-23 Thread Adam Witney
Adam Witney suggests that the error depends on dlcompact. I have installed the dlcompact (version 20020913 fixed for Jaguar) from osxgnu site (www.osxgnu.org) but the problem persists. I spoke to the author of dlcompact about this on the 14th september So the version you installed above

Re: Perl DBD-Pg 1.13 on Mac OS X 10.2

2002-09-23 Thread Raffaele Conte
Thank you Adam. Please inform me if you will have news. On Lunedì, set 23, 2002, at 12:23 Europe/Rome, Adam Witney wrote: Adam Witney suggests that the error depends on dlcompact. I have installed the dlcompact (version 20020913 fixed for Jaguar) from osxgnu site (www.osxgnu.org) but the

Re: mysqldump perl script via crontab problems

2002-09-23 Thread Robin
On Sunday, September 22, 2002, at 12:30 pm, douglas mcdonald wrote: I'm having a problem running a backup script through cron. The script runs perfectly from the command line, but when I run it through cron I end up with an empty file. This is presumably because the mysqldump is not

DBD::Pg

2002-09-23 Thread Vincent D Murphy
warning: rant imminent. DBD::Pg is a World of Pain on mac os x. i thought i would have my database-accessing cgi script written by now but as usual i've ended up burning my morning fighting with yet another CPAN module on mac os x. apache/mod_cgi works fine on jaguar out of the box, and

Re: lost path settings and funky cpan

2002-09-23 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 3:14 PM +0900 9/23/02, Robin wrote: On Monday, September 23, 2002, at 02:08 pm, Puneet Kishor wrote: 2. cpan did something strange -- I fired up cpan and it promptly reminded me that I should upgrade cpan itself as well as libnet. I dutifully upgraded cpan to 1.63 and reloaded, and then

Re: Perl DBD-Pg 1.13 on Mac OS X 10.2

2002-09-23 Thread Adam Witney
I just installed DBD-Pg 1.13 using fink and it all seems to work fine. This may be worth a look for you guys having trouble installing the manual way. adam

Re: OS Poll

2002-09-23 Thread Gregory Cranz
Since we're lumping in Jaguar with .Mac already, I might as well take a chance to sound off also. No - I haven't done it - taken either plunge, just yet. I am VERY annoyed with Apple for the bait switch mentality which they're using with their LOYAL CUSTOMER BASE. That's something that

Re: lost path settings and funky cpan

2002-09-23 Thread Puneet Kishor
As usual, what I thought was a simple problem has suddenly seemed to balloon into a long dim einebahnstrasse that I can't back out from easily. Let me see if I understand... On Monday, September 23, 2002, at 12:08 AM, I, Puneet Kishor wrote: 2. cpan did something strange -- I fired up cpan

Re: AppleScript to Perl w/SOAP

2002-09-23 Thread Andrew M. Langmead
On Sun, Sep 22, 2002 at 05:02:22PM -0600, Nathan Torkington wrote: Apple Corporation doesn't make celebrities out of its employees. O'Reilly, on the other hand, loves to make stars out of its authors. (or to make its authors see stars, depending on how well they write :-) Apple'sInside

Re: OS Poll

2002-09-23 Thread William H. Magill
On Monday, September 23, 2002, at 09:39 AM, Gregory Cranz wrote: .Mac is by far NOT worth the money, Virex or no virex. (Just how many OS/X viruses are out there anyway? puh-leez)\ This is exactly the attitude that Norton uses with it's OSX virus program. From the point of view of

Re: AppleScript to Perl w/SOAP

2002-09-23 Thread William H. Magill
On Monday, September 23, 2002, at 09:26 AM, Andrew M. Langmead wrote: Software About boxes used to have individual names, but now are all attributed to Apple Computer, Inc. One big reason is that software today is rarely the result of a single person or even a consistent group... Not only do

Re: Standardfile ?

2002-09-23 Thread Robin
On Tuesday, September 24, 2002, at 02:03 am, zampino wrote: On MacPerl/OS9 I used to include via require a module called StandardFile.pl that allowed my programs to call the Mac OS open and close file dialog box. Is there an equivalent under OSX? Basically no. At least not yet - the

remove my name from list

2002-09-23 Thread Harri Nieminen
Thanx. - harri

Still no joy in Mudville.

2002-09-23 Thread Brian McNett
I've struck out. I'm still getting the following undefined symbols from Perl 5.8: dyld: perl Undefined symbols: _Perl_sv_2pv _perl_get_sv Trace/BPT trap Also discovered the following when attempting to run another program: dyld: perl Undefined symbols: _Perl_safefree _Perl_safemalloc

Re: Still no joy in Mudville.

2002-09-23 Thread Jerry LeVan
I've struck out. I'm still getting the following undefined symbols from Perl 5.8: dyld: perl Undefined symbols: _Perl_sv_2pv _perl_get_sv Trace/BPT trap Also discovered the following when attempting to run another program: dyld: perl Undefined symbols: _Perl_safefree

Re: DBD::Pg

2002-09-23 Thread Charles Albrecht
On Mon, Sep 23, 2002 at 12:59:19PM +0100, Vincent D Murphy wrote: i have omitted the remainder of the output, it just says that the other tests are skipped. i presume this those symbols are the names of C functions, and that this a problem with XS code somewhere. but why the hell would a DBD

Re: remove my name from list

2002-09-23 Thread Chris Devers
instructions are in the message headers: On Mon, 23 Sep 2002, Harri Nieminen wrote: Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from onion.perl.org (onion.valueclick.com [64.70.54.95]) by mail.boston.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id g8NGAt209546 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 23 Sep

Re: Still no joy in Mudville.

2002-09-23 Thread Edward Lewis
I've been lurking, but I have some experience building and rebuilding other packages. What I also look at is the timestamp on the files to see if the installation process is putting everything out there, or there was some old stuff hanging around. In particular: ls -l `which newly installed

[OT] Software Update

2002-09-23 Thread Bill Stephenson
Has Apple disconnected 10.1 user's Software Update application? Mine just sits there waiting for a response that never comes... -- Bill Stephenson www.PerlHelp.com 1-417-546-5593

Re: [OT] Software Update

2002-09-23 Thread Phil Dobbin
On 23/9/02 19:17, Bill Stephenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has Apple disconnected 10.1 user's Software Update application? Mine just sits there waiting for a response that never comes... Works fine for me on my iMac and iBook, both running 10.1.5. Bit dodgy on my 5400 running 9.1. I get a

installing dbi.pm on perl 5.6.0

2002-09-23 Thread Marijka Hambrecht
Hello, I have a g4 running 10.1.5. It came with perl 5.6.0 installed. I installed a new version of mysql and movabltype and would like to use the perl dbi/dbd::mysql to interface with both these programs. When I try to install dbi.pm I get the following error message: Error: Unable to

Replacement mac icons

2002-09-23 Thread Nathan Torkington
http://use.perl.org/~exeunt/journal/7935 He has created some nice camel boot logos for your Mac. Nat

Re: OS Poll

2002-09-23 Thread Erik Price
On Saturday, September 21, 2002, at 01:40 PM, Chris Devers wrote: I'm really undecided on this whole debate. 10.2 offers a lot of cool features that are worth paying for, but then a lot of those features are still buggy /or incomplete right now. That's a good way of summing it up --

Re: AppleScript to Perl w/SOAP

2002-09-23 Thread Erik Price
On Sunday, September 22, 2002, at 08:36 PM, Brian McNett wrote: On Sunday, September 22, 2002, at 05:13 PM, Morbus Iff wrote: Exactly. My article uses morbus as the dummy username, an obvious giveaway. A friend, when writing for Apple made several references to A Bazilians Family

Re: AppleScript to Perl w/SOAP

2002-09-23 Thread Bradley Roberts
At 3:16 PM -0700 9/23/02, Erik Price wrote: On Sunday, September 22, 2002, at 04:53 PM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: Of course, we authors always figured out slartibartfast in the fjords ways of getting our signatures in the book somehow. One time, I stuck it in the ASCII values of a string that

Re: mysqldump perl script via crontab problems

2002-09-23 Thread Rich Michaela
douglas mcdonald wrote: crontab.err file: sh: mysqldump: command not found Jobs run from cron have a very sparse environment. You need to

Re: OS Poll

2002-09-23 Thread Ric Phillips
Apple is neither a 'hardware' company, nor a 'software' company - nor even a hardware-and-software company. It is a 'platform' company. Which is why, MS, though not makers of hardware - to any great extent - are still direct competitors of Apple - and why referring to windows systems as

Re: OS Poll

2002-09-23 Thread Ken Williams
Just when I thought I'd sworn off this thread... On Monday, September 23, 2002, at 11:39 PM, Gregory Cranz wrote: I RESENT the fact that I just paid for 10.1 now I have to pay the full price all over again for a system that I haven't owned for two years yet. Both 'major improvements'

Re: OS Poll

2002-09-23 Thread Michael P . Wilson
I thought one of the real core differences was that it was built with GCC 3.1 instead of the 2.95 branch. As a developer I'm quite happy to have paid for the new updated tools to be so deeply integrated. I kinda wish they'd gotten perl 5.8 under the wire, but that wasn't a big deal to

Re: AppleScript to Perl w/SOAP

2002-09-23 Thread Chris Devers
On Mon, 23 Sep 2002, Erik Price wrote: But then he got a phone call from someone in billing wondering what it meant, and stopped doing it. Man, what kind of sicko embeds silly pointless gag phrases in the messages he sends out, possibly making things difficult for the receivers? What a jerk,

Re: OS Poll

2002-09-23 Thread Bill Stephenson
From: Michael P. Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] I thought one of the real core differences was that it was built with GCC 3.1 instead of the 2.95 branch. What does that do for us? As a developer I'm quite happy to have paid for the new updated tools to be so deeply integrated. I kinda wish

Re: OS Poll

2002-09-23 Thread Michael P . Wilson
Kinda depends on who us is. If us is me it means we have a much more stable, mature, closer to state of the art, well-supported development environment. If us is Joe mac user on the street who plays a couple games, uses an office suite, browses the web and farts around with MIDI a bit then I

Re: OS Poll

2002-09-23 Thread Michael P . Wilson
See I didn't know the numbers that well. Nice to know I wasn't just imagining it :-) deeply integrated was really just a flippant turn of phrase. I'm a recent switcher, so it may simply be that my familiarity has increased. On Tuesday, September 24, 2002, at 12:03 AM, Les Harris wrote:

[OT] Re: OS Poll

2002-09-23 Thread Joel Rees
Sure, the thread is somewhat OT, but we all need to think about what tools we'll use in the future, when the glitz has worn off information technology. I thought one of the real core differences was that it was built with GCC 3.1 instead of the 2.95 branch. From what I've been reading on

Re: OS Poll

2002-09-23 Thread Robin
On Tuesday, September 24, 2002, at 09:53 am, Ric Phillips wrote: MS, though not makers of hardware - to any great extent - Can you name 1 computer actually made by Microsoft, ever? Or are you talking about joysticks? Hardware may or may not be an essential part of a platform. Oracles,

Re: OS Poll

2002-09-23 Thread Justin Simoni
Xbox. Justin Simoni -- + Freelance Web Design + Internet Application Development + Way Out There Artist [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://justinsimoni.com | 720.436.7701 On Tuesday, September 24, 2002, at 09:53 am, Ric Phillips wrote: MS, though not makers of hardware - to any great extent -

Re: OS Poll

2002-09-23 Thread Robin
On Tuesday, September 24, 2002, at 02:15 pm, Justin Simoni wrote: Can you name 1 computer actually made by Microsoft, ever? Xbox. email this from your Xbox did you :-)