Re: [27155] trunk/dports/python/py-psyco/Portfile

2007-07-22 Thread Rainer Müller
Ryan Schmidt wrote: You may also wish to check for compatible architecture in a different way. Your way currently handles only on Intel Mac OS X, but according to the project's web site, it works on any OS so long as it's the _86 architecture. Consider doing it the way I've done it in the wine

Re: [27427] trunk/dports/graphics/gimp2/Portfile

2007-08-03 Thread Rainer Müller
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Revision 27427 http://trac.macosforge.org/projects/macports/changeset/27427 Author [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date 2007-08-03 09:30:45 -0700 (Fri, 03 Aug 2007) [...] +variant without_python conflicts python24 { +depends_lib-delete port:py25-gtk +

Re: [27427] trunk/dports/graphics/gimp2/Portfile

2007-08-03 Thread Rainer Müller
Xin Liu wrote: I don't like default variants either (except for those system-wide ones like darwin_8). Does port info pkg show default variants? If it does not, it's not a good idea to use default variants. It could be changed to do so :-) I don't like the syntax +without_foo as it reads with

Re: [27427] trunk/dports/graphics/gimp2/Portfile

2007-08-04 Thread Rainer Müller
Yves de Champlain wrote: There is something else. Right now, gimp2 has python24 without_gnome without_python To follow your (rainer's) logic, gimp2 would then have python24 python25 gnome with gnome and python25 both as default. Is this possible with the current

Re: updated portfile for games/xmj

2007-08-04 Thread Rainer Müller
Ryan Schmidt wrote: On Aug 3, 2007, at 11:27, Mark Moll wrote: Can someone please commit http://trac.macports.org/projects/macports/ticket/12078, a version bump for games/xmj? raimue resolved this ticket. Uh, I just mentioned that my message didn't made it through... Sorry, I used the

Re: Default variants

2007-08-16 Thread Rainer Müller
N_Ox wrote: Le 14 août 07 à 19:58, N_Ox a écrit : Le 12 août 07 à 05:28, N_Ox a écrit : From what I've understood, the problem with default variants is that if we do something like `port foo -bar` and that foo has `default_variants +bar`, if an upgrade of foo is released, then `port

Re: [28060] trunk/dports/archivers/sharutils/Portfile

2007-08-20 Thread Rainer Müller
Daniel J. Luke wrote: It makes sense to include NLS support by default in most ports. I would like +nls variants, so people who want localized software could enable this in variants.conf. Rainer ___ macports-dev mailing list

Re: [28120] trunk/dports/lang/python24/Portfile

2007-08-21 Thread Rainer Müller
Boyd Waters wrote: On Aug 21, 2007, at 9:18 AM, Anders F Björklund wrote: This change will break ports that depends on python24 and then try to use the python binary, either directly with #!/opt/local/bin/python or with e.g. #!/usr/bin/env python. Maybe those ports using port:python24

Re: Categories are evil

2007-08-22 Thread Rainer Müller
Vincent Lefevre wrote: On 2007-08-22 11:06:33 -0400, Daniel J. Luke wrote: On Aug 22, 2007, at 10:57 AM, Vincent Lefevre wrote: But that should be easier to find where a port is located easier than 'port dir portname' ? 'port dir portname' only lists the first directory (when a port is

db4 vs db43

2007-08-25 Thread Rainer Müller
Hi, I noticed we got a db4 port, which installs bdb 4.3.29 and a db43 port which installs exactly the same version. Now I'm asking if we can either a) remove db4 completely and upgrade ports depending on it to a specific version db4[1-6] or b) make db4 some sort of meta port depending on the

Re: Newbie Port Creator Questions

2007-09-02 Thread Rainer Müller
Weissmann Markus wrote: 2) In the case above, the third party patch file is written to be applied from the directory above the source code (I think this would be called the work directory) and not from inside the dynamips-0.2.7 directory created when the tarball is extracted. The best I can

Re: Newbie Port Creator Questions

2007-09-03 Thread Rainer Müller
Vincent Lefevre wrote: AFAIK, the BSD license allows you to create a derived work that would be distributed under the GPL. Owning the original source is necessary only if you want to change the license in an incompatible manner (e.g. you created a work which you distributed under the GPLv2 and

Re: Problem with the repository: bogus date

2007-09-03 Thread Rainer Müller
Vincent Lefevre wrote: I've noticed the following error: $ svn log -r2 https://svn.macosforge.org/repository/macports svn: Bogus date It is really a Bogus date, as you can see in the following log: --snip-- | $ svn log --xml -r2 https://svn.macosforge.org/repository/macports | ?xml

Re: Split Trunk

2007-10-03 Thread Rainer Müller
Anders F Björklund wrote: For MacPorts 1.6.0, I think you should split the dports trunk in two, trunk and release, just as done with the base. There is just too much port breakage with running the latest developer version on the user machines, IMHO. That sounds like a good idea. But who

Re: Replacement for cd

2007-10-03 Thread Rainer Müller
Kevin Ballard wrote: Since the cd command has been removed from trunk, perhaps another command could be added to fill in the void? I'm proposing a command that acts like cd but takes a block and executes the block within the given directory, then restores the old working directory before

Re: Split Trunk

2007-10-04 Thread Rainer Müller
Ryan Schmidt wrote: For what purpose? We already have the situation that when we want to make, say, both apache 2.0 and apache 2.2 available, we create two ports: apache20 and apache2, respectively. This works fine. What do you need in addition to that? One could choose which version to

Re: Split Trunk

2007-10-04 Thread Rainer Müller
Emmanuel Hainry wrote: Being a simple maintainer, I would say that dependencies on specific version (à la debian this software require thingy version 2.2.17 but it is not going to be installed) would make me unable to manage seriously my ports. Why? I just don't get this point. The not too

Re: Trac emails -- how to stop getting them

2007-11-20 Thread Rainer Müller
James Berry wrote: I think the best behavior would be to turn off the notifiers feature. Then it's essentially opt-in: if you want to get updates for a ticket then you put yourself in the cc field, right? That seems perfect. But reporter and assignee should be notified by default, otherwise it

Re: setting variants on the fly

2007-11-22 Thread Rainer Müller
Markus Weissmann wrote: What would be _very_ cool to solve this problem would be something Landon Fuller suggested: Some kind of inheritance for Portfiles. Then we could do a gtk2 port with a description, version, hashes, etc. and do a gtk2-quartz port which inherits from gtk2 but changes some

Re: Ion3 license and possible removal

2007-12-13 Thread Rainer Müller
Pierre Queinnec wrote: Here are two mails T. Valkonen sent respectively to FreeBSD Ports [1] and pkgsrc [2], warning them of a license violation on his software, ion3 (x11/ion3). I'll be committing a removal of the port in 5 days if nobody wants to step up and take ownership from me. Then

Re: Ion3 license and possible removal

2007-12-16 Thread Rainer Müller
Vincent Lefevre wrote: Or change the name of the software. These restrictions apply only in this case: [quoted from the LICENSE file] If the name Ion(tm) or other names that can be associated with the Ion project are used to distribute this software, then: [/quoted] Seems like Debian

Re: Support .dmg disk images as distfiles with new use_dmg option

2007-12-20 Thread Rainer Müller
Ryan Schmidt wrote: BTW, as we have all these use_foo options, wouldn't it be better we would have something like extract.type which can be set to one of bzip2, gzip, dmg? I was hoping nobody would bring this up. :) Sorry for that :) What happens if someone specifies use_bzip2 yes and

Re: RFC: coreutils uses program-prefix=g by default

2007-12-22 Thread Rainer Müller
js wrote: On Dec 22, 2007 9:41 PM, Rainer Müller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: js wrote: So let me ask this, Do you like to have gls, guniq in your /opt/local/bin? Is there any case that removing g prefix causes any problems? I think they are by default off because you expect ls from BSD

Re: Different dmgs for different felines

2007-12-28 Thread Rainer Müller
Ryan Schmidt wrote: Why is it again that we need separate dmgs for separate OS releases at all? Why don't we just have a single universal dmg, with the PowerPC part built with the 10.3.9 SDK and the Intel part built with the 10.4u SDK, and everyone's happy? Isn't that the whole point of

Re: Different dmgs for different felines

2007-12-28 Thread Rainer Müller
Ryan Schmidt wrote: Rainer, would you prefer for us to distribute 5 different disk images of MacPorts then -- Panther PowerPC, Tiger PowerPC, Tiger Intel, Leopard PowerPC, Leopard Intel? A disk image with four architectures will be around four times bigger than it needs to be... Why should

Re: Commit needed for cidr port, ticket #13868

2008-01-07 Thread Rainer Müller
Bryan Blackburn wrote: When someone gets a chance, the cidr port needs an update as specified in ticket #13868: http://trac.macosforge.org/projects/macports/ticket/13868 Committed in r32563. Just curious, as you are writing from an email address @macports.org; don't you have commit access

Re: [32570] trunk/dports/www/lynx/Portfile

2008-01-07 Thread Rainer Müller
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Revision: 32570 http://trac.macosforge.org/projects/macports/changeset/32570 Author: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008-01-07 19:20:00 -0800 (Mon, 07 Jan 2008) Log Message: --- lynx: increment revision so everyone gets the change from r32565; see

Re: [32635] trunk/dports/games/lincity-ng/Portfile

2008-01-10 Thread Rainer Müller
Ryan Schmidt wrote: On Jan 10, 2008, at 04:07, Anders F Björklund wrote: [depends_lib, depends_build, depends_run explanation] So it's more about where you want the depend to be checked, than the type of it ? Is that really how it is? If so, that's really nonintuitive. Is that really how we

Re: New port needs commit

2008-01-13 Thread Rainer Müller
Luis O'Shea wrote: After the commit, I uninstalled asymptote, removed the reference to my local port hierarchy from sources.conf, and did a selfupdate. However port seemed to not find the new asymptote port: % port info asymptote Error: Port asymptote not found The PortIndex is regenerated

Re: New port needs commit

2008-01-13 Thread Rainer Müller
Luis O'Shea wrote: Two questions: - What is the best description of the ports referenced by file:///...? I called it my local port hierarchy, but I now think this might be confusing. (It might mean my *copy* of rsync://rsync.macports) I would call it an overlay. A term coming from my

Re: /opt/local/bin/python2.5 as default MacPorts' python interpreter

2008-01-18 Thread Rainer Müller
Emmanuel Hainry wrote: So, for a port that works well with tiger's python2.3, leopard's python2.5 and macports' python2.3, 2.4 or 2.5, the correct dependency would be port:python_select or bin:python:python_select? And the python to choose ${prefix}/bin/python or the first python in the PATH?

Re: PortIndex Regen Failure on Saturday 2008-01-26 at 15:30:00

2008-01-27 Thread Rainer Müller
Daniel J. Luke wrote: Looks like it fails with the 'Broken X11 install. No X11 headers' error even if you run it with -without-x As a workaround: ./configure LDFLAGS=-L/usr/X11/lib Works for me... Rainer ___ macports-dev mailing list

Re: MacPorts as non-root (and non-admin)

2008-01-30 Thread Rainer Müller
Anders F Björklund wrote: It also needs a new Portfile setting added somewhere: a flag for this port requires root/admin priviledges It would be set for things like servers or extensions, that really *needs* root in order to run properly... That's a good thing, I also don't like the hardcoded

Re: [MacPorts] #14147: port lint should warn on illegal variant names

2008-02-02 Thread Rainer Müller
MacPorts wrote: #14147: port lint should warn on illegal variant names -+-- Reporter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Owner: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Type: enhancement | Status: new

Re: *-devel ports

2008-02-02 Thread Rainer Müller
Ryan Schmidt wrote: No port should depend on a -devel version of a port, unless it will only work with the -devel version. Usually this will not be the case. Usually, a port will work with the current version of a port and the latest development version. A port wanting to accommodate this

Marking default variants (was: [MacPorts] #14178: Feature Request: show default_variants in port variants foobar)

2008-02-04 Thread Rainer Müller
MacPorts wrote: #14178: Feature Request: show default_variants in port variants foobar +--- Reporter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Owner: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Type: enhancement | Status: new

Re: Variants handling: my $0.02.

2008-02-04 Thread Rainer Müller
Ryan Schmidt wrote: Having to specify -ssl +gnutls is stupid. The way I see it, ssl and gnutls are two radio buttons. To select the radio button you want, you shouldn't also have to manually deselect the radio button you don't want. It should be automatic. Fixed the lynx port so it behaves

Re: Variants handling: my $0.02.

2008-02-04 Thread Rainer Müller
N_Ox wrote: These two sugar syntaxes would make the variant writing process cleaner. But maybe they could help us more... Let's say the variants which do something only when they are disabled (variant -some_variant) are always enabled by default. In this setup, `sudo port install some_port

Re: Marking default variants

2008-02-04 Thread Rainer Müller
Ryan Schmidt wrote: I have been adding (default) to the ends of descriptions of all variants which are enabled by default. I think it's very clear -- much clearer than an asterisk. It is not possible to put (default) behind each variant in port info, do you agree on that? And if we choose a

Re: [33768] trunk/dports/devel

2008-02-04 Thread Rainer Müller
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Revision: 33768 http://trac.macosforge.org/projects/macports/changeset/33768 Author: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008-02-04 13:40:14 -0800 (Mon, 04 Feb 2008) Log Message: --- initial libmemcached port Added Paths: ---

Re: Variants handling: my $0.02.

2008-02-05 Thread Rainer Müller
Thomas de Grivel wrote: I like it. If there is some kind of poll here, I'm in =) Hm, I don't think we found final options for a voting yet, do we? Rainer ___ macports-dev mailing list macports-dev@lists.macosforge.org

Re: [33938] trunk/base/src/macports1.0/macports.tcl

2008-02-07 Thread Rainer Müller
Ryan Schmidt wrote: What is being prepended to what? Or did you mean pretend? Ouch. Of course I meant that! Somehow I got it wrong and didn't notice it at all. Sorry... Thanks, I am going to fix this. Rainer ___ macports-dev mailing list

New port config could make MacPorts' setup much easier

2008-02-08 Thread Rainer Müller
Hi, I am thinking about a new port config target, which could make setting up MacPorts much easier. Currently, the appropriate variables for PATH, MANPATH and DISPLAY are determined in the postflight script. If we would move that into a port config target (or port setup, the name is open for

Re: New port config could make MacPorts' setup much easier

2008-02-09 Thread Rainer Müller
Anders F Björklund wrote: Rainer Müller wrote: I am thinking about a new port config target, which could make setting up MacPorts much easier. Currently, the appropriate variables for PATH, MANPATH and DISPLAY are determined in the postflight script. If we would move that into a port config

Re: New port config could make MacPorts' setup much easier

2008-02-09 Thread Rainer Müller
Adam Mercer wrote: DISPLAY should not be set for Leopard, otherwise X won't work correctly. Yes, I was talking about DISPLAY on Tiger/Panther only. Therefore a init.sh/init.csh written by the installation should only contain env vars applicable to the current Mac OS X version. Rainer

Re: [Fwd: [MacPorts Lint] Portfile Lint Errors for: vim]

2008-02-11 Thread Rainer Müller
Ryan Schmidt wrote: The unfixable warnings about the names of downloaded patchfiles are not supposed to be fixed -- the port lint warning is erroneous (as you know). It would be great if someone could fix this bug: http://trac.macosforge.org/projects/macports/ticket/13615 I committed a

Re: sorry about mult trac tickets

2008-02-11 Thread Rainer Müller
David Bruce wrote: Sorry - I seem to have created five tickets, judging from the mails I just got. The first four were my attempts with Konqueror on my Linux box, which seemed to fail to recognize my id/pw. The last one was using FireFox on Linux, which worked smoothly. Not sure where the

Installation Documentation

2008-02-12 Thread Rainer Müller
Hi, Currently we have two tutorials how to install MacPorts: One at http://trac.macosforge.org/projects/macports/wiki/InstallingMacPorts and another one in the guide at http://guide.macports.org/#installing It is obviously difficult to keep them at sync. For example the wiki entry does not

Re: why is my port no being added?

2008-02-13 Thread Rainer Müller
js wrote: Might be better to send this to macports-dev. On 2/13/08, Florian Ebeling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I submitted a Portfile for a new port a couple of weeks ago, but nothing happend. Sometimes everyone is busy and nobody notices new ports.

Updating macports.conf

2008-02-15 Thread Rainer Müller
Hello, Currently on selfupdate macports.conf is not updated in any way if it already existed. This hides new options from long time users. An up-to-date macports.conf provides a good overview over all options and contains short documentation lines. I have two proposals how this could be changed

Re: Let's avoid using md5 as checksum

2008-02-15 Thread Rainer Müller
js wrote: As you know, MD5 has serious flaws (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MD5) So recently I don't use it and even remove it when I found it in the checksum part of portfile. I thought dropping use of md5 in portfile would be nice. Any thought? I don't think these flaws are strong enough

Re: Updating macports.conf

2008-02-15 Thread Rainer Müller
Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: An up-to-date macports.conf provides a good overview over all options and contains short documentation lines. [ ... ] 1) Add macports.conf.dist Yes, at a minimum, you need an updated reference config file available at all times, though I dislike the .dist

Re: Let's avoid using md5 as checksum

2008-02-16 Thread Rainer Müller
Ryan Schmidt wrote: Of course, this won't make Rainer happy. :-) http://trac.macosforge.org/projects/macports/browser/trunk/dports/ editors/vim/files/patchlist?rev=34037 Look at all them pretty md5s... These md5s are released upstream [1] and I just use them. Of course I now could also

Committing new port submissions (was: Re: Let's avoid using md5 as checksum)

2008-02-16 Thread Rainer Müller
Ryan Schmidt wrote: Rainer has commented on your ticket so once you review those changes I imagine he'll commit it. Yes, that was my intention :-) I saw your earlier message but did not have time to deal with it. Sometimes we're just short on time and tickets get forgotten. That's often

Re: [MacPorts] #14342: python25 drops modules by default, but python25 doesn't

2008-02-18 Thread Rainer Müller
js wrote: Just out of curiosity, could you tell me why default python25 drops those modoles? I really don't know it, Markus will know more about it. Rainer ___ macports-dev mailing list macports-dev@lists.macosforge.org

New HOWTO section in the wiki

2008-02-18 Thread Rainer Müller
Hi, I started a new HOWTO section in the wiki [1]. These HOWTOs should cover tutorials and tips how specific things can be done using MacPorts. This is meant to be an addition to the guide and should not contain topics already covered by the guide. It is a place editable by everyone to share

Re: 72 hours are not enough for maintainers?

2008-02-21 Thread Rainer Müller
Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: I think 72 hours is a very reasonable time out period. If you're that attached to your ports, chances are very good that you'll be checking your trac queue more often than this anyway, and if you're not that attached to them, then why be concerned if someone

Re: sudo: port: command not found on OS X Tiger

2008-02-21 Thread Rainer Müller
Please, always include the mailing list in your replies. Use `Reply All' instead of `Reply'. Brent Austin wrote: I have: /bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/opt/local/bin I'm not seeing X11R6 in there even though I know it' s installed. It may not be in there on Tiger by default. I am not sure.

Re: [34368] trunk/dports/games/tuxmath/Portfile

2008-02-22 Thread Rainer Müller
Ryan Schmidt wrote: You need to bump the port revision too so everyone gets that change. I thought about that, but was uncertain if just this addition justifies a revision increment. Rainer ___ macports-dev mailing list

Re: [34368] trunk/dports/games/tuxmath/Portfile

2008-02-22 Thread Rainer Müller
Ryan Schmidt wrote: If a different set of files ends up on the user's machine, the revision must be incremented. Otherwise some users with tuxmath 1.6.1_0 have one set of files and other users with 1.6.1_0 have a different set of files. That's not reliable; that's not reproducible. I

Re: MacPorts caching of distfiles [was Re: ntfs-3g 1.1120 source missing]

2008-02-22 Thread Rainer Müller
William Siegrist wrote: I already made the offer to portmgr a while back, so they know. I think there needs to be some added API to macports in order to make the engineering a little cleaner server-side, but there hasnt been much discussion yet. So if anyone wants to take the lead on

Portfile modification date checks vs. Portfile revisions

2008-02-22 Thread Rainer Müller
Hi, currently, we enforce that every change has to increment the revision, in order to force a rebuild by the user. But in fact, the current base code also checks the last modified date of the Portfile to see if it was changed since installation. See sample with a non-existing port `empty':

Re: Portfile modification date checks vs. Portfile revisions

2008-02-23 Thread Rainer Müller
Ryan Schmidt wrote: Isn't it fine the way it works now? It's that way, I think, so that, if you already have foo installed, but now you want foo +bar, you can sudo port install foo +bar, and it'll fetch and configure and build and destroot and install, however long that takes, and then

Re: Portfile modification date checks vs. Portfile revisions

2008-02-23 Thread Rainer Müller
Ryan Schmidt wrote: Not wasted. Just deactivate the one you got and then activate the new one. Not possible. Install *failed*. You can't install the exact same version/revision/variants twice. Rainer ___ macports-dev mailing list

Re: python 2.5 not playing well with others...

2008-02-24 Thread Rainer Müller
Douglas Philips wrote: this morning I did a port -d selfupdate and then port outdated which revealed new versions of a number of python 2.5 things. When I tried to update python25, this is what I got: (and this error probably prevented all the other py25-whatever upgrades from

Re: #macports CIA

2008-02-24 Thread Rainer Müller
Thomas Reifferscheid wrote: Who is maintaining the CIA bot on #macports? As already said on IRC, it is operated by http://cia.vc Can we install a summary-report for new trac tickets for some time (lets say for a week) and remove it when it's getting on our nerves... It's currently

Re: MacPorts caching of distfiles [was Re: ntfs-3g 1.1120 source missing]

2008-02-24 Thread Rainer Müller
Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: On Feb 23, 2008, at 8:05 AM, William Siegrist wrote: So whats left? I think you'll want a special hostname for these? Maybe http://distfiles.macports.org/group/port/file? I'm not sure what value group adds. port/file would seem more than reasonable, and a

Re: MacPorts caching of distfiles [was Re: ntfs-3g 1.1120 source missing]

2008-02-24 Thread Rainer Müller
Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: All distfiles in one single directory? I am against that at all! Why? Collisions? If so, please name the collisions in question, because I cannot find any. Maybe not yet, but maybe they will come in later? Why not be collisions aware? If you add indirection

Re: Warnings when I visit http://www.macports.org/ in Safari v.1.3.2

2008-02-26 Thread Rainer Müller
js wrote: The problem is Safari 1.3 is processing the page as an XML document, even though, just as you pointed out, it's really a XHTML. The server seems returning the right HTTP header, Content-Type: application/xhtml+xml; charset=utf-8, so I think it's actually a Safari's problem. This

Re: livecheck not finding latest version

2008-02-27 Thread Rainer Müller
Anders F Björklund wrote: That's probably because livecheck doesn't check to see if the new version is actually *newer*, it only checks if it changed... if {$updated_version != ${livecheck.version}} { set updated 1 } else { set updated 0 }

Re: livecheck not finding latest version

2008-02-27 Thread Rainer Müller
Anders F Björklund wrote: That's probably because livecheck doesn't check to see if the new version is actually *newer*, it only checks if it changed... if {$updated_version != ${livecheck.version}} { set updated 1 } else { set updated 0 } We

Re: How should MacPorts show users instruction messages (was: user instructions - was ... mysql5 + php5 + apache2)

2008-02-29 Thread Rainer Müller
js wrote: I don't think this is not worth the effort. if there were a way to provide instrictions, it would encourages developer to write more messages I suppose. One option would be to simply hold back any message until all ports installed and output them afterwards. So all messages would be

Re: How should MacPorts show users instruction messages

2008-02-29 Thread Rainer Müller
js wrote: +1 +1 for what? I just mentioned two possibilities how to solve this and we did not even gather additional ideas. This is not the time for voting yet. If you meant one particular idea, please use inline-replying to make that clear. Rainer

Re: question about adding distfiles to svn

2008-02-29 Thread Rainer Müller
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need to add a port to distfiles in the svn repo, but how do I do it without checking out the whole distfiles/ directory? svn import $PATH $URL But this way you can only add one file at a time. Rainer ___ macports-dev

Re: RFC: Changing apache2 to install its files to /opt/local/ instead of /opt/local/apache2

2008-03-02 Thread Rainer Müller
js wrote: Before anyone does anything, I'd like to know why you want this change. Consistency, period. When I upgraded from apache1 to apache2, it surprized me that there is no conf dir in /opt/local/etc and apachectl is in /opt/local/apache2/bin/. I agree. Even more, the current apache2

Re: Python framework location and Python 3.0 conflict with 2.4

2008-03-03 Thread Rainer Müller
Blair Zajac wrote: We've discussed this briefly before on the list, but I'm of the mind that all new Python frameworks must be installed in a separate directory from the Python 2.4 framework for several reasons: 1) There's a conflict on the

Re: Checking if a given port is installed in pre-fetch

2008-03-03 Thread Rainer Müller
Daniel J. Luke wrote: There's not a built-in way to do this (but it might be a nice base/ feature), and I don't know of a really good way of doing it (you could probably check for an installed binary in a pre-fetch action and output an appropriate ui_error message). Which would issue a

Re: RFC: Changing apache2 to install its files to /opt/local/ instead of /opt/local/apache2

2008-03-04 Thread Rainer Müller
js wrote: Do you mean dbmmanage.1{apache,apache20,apache2}.gz? That would be good. Then you can read the man pages by using e.g. man 1apache2 dbmmanage. I feel a bit odd, though. I prefer python's style. - /opt/local/share/man/man1/python2.5.1.gz -

Re: Splitting the guide

2008-03-05 Thread Rainer Müller
Hi Simon, Simon Ruderich wrote: I just created a chunked version of the guide and uploaded it on my homepage: http://ruderich.com/macports/chunked/ Looks good so far. But I would like the TOC to be on each page for easier switching of chapters. Could the current chapter be marked inside the

Re: Splitting the guide

2008-03-05 Thread Rainer Müller
Thomas Reifferscheid wrote: For doing this automatically (e.g. every night), we could need some kind of shell (bash) script doing this. Do you think thats possible for fully automation? I think finally this should go on guide.macports.org, there the guide is already built automatically. We

Re: Splitting the guide

2008-03-05 Thread Rainer Müller
Simon Ruderich wrote: This shouldn't be a problem. I already modified my local Makefile for the documentation generation. The question is how we should provide these two versions (maybe also a third: a downloadable version of the guide). Maybe http://guide.macports.org/ should display a

Re: New HOWTO section in the wiki

2008-03-05 Thread Rainer Müller
js wrote: HOWTOs I'd like to see there are - How to upgrate outdated ports most effectively (port upgrade -fun ?) - How to uninstall MacPorts completely - How to start writing Portfile Thanks, these are good topics! I added your suggestions to the list in the wiki. But with one

Re: Splitting the guide

2008-03-06 Thread Rainer Müller
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just tried this using DocBook but it didn't work for me. So I used a simple sed replacement to get this working. I created two examples: http://ruderich.com/macports/guide-link.html I like this one with the links. It makes it easy to get the URL which links exactly

Re: RFC: MacPorts Filesystem Hierarchy Standard

2008-03-06 Thread Rainer Müller
js wrote: - db Miscellaneous, automatically generated system-specific database files. For example, ... what? (Note that currently mysql data directory is created here. This is not correct.) No idea what is meant to reside here. Sure, mysqlX could also go into

Python framework transition

2008-03-06 Thread Rainer Müller
Hi Thomas, Following the IRC discussion from today with afb and mdickens, I wrote together a wiki page which documents how we want to do the transition to build pythonXX as frameworks. http://trac.macosforge.org/projects/macports/wiki/PythonFrameworkTransition Any comments so far? Also see

Re: Python framework transition

2008-03-06 Thread Rainer Müller
Boyd Waters wrote: I think that this is why I haven't committed anything; I've been building all Python 2.5 stuff via MacPorts as a framework build for about a year now. I had to modify all of my Python ports that I use so that they understand the symlink. Should be working

Re: RFC: MacPorts Filesystem Hierarchy Standard

2008-03-07 Thread Rainer Müller
js wrote: Let's say I just installed mysql5 and apache2. Where's the configuration files? for mysq5, It's located in ${prefix}/etc/mysql5 by default. for apache2 ${prefix}/apache2/conf/ by default. Where's the log files? mysql5 uses /opt/local/var/db/mysql5 apache2 uses

Re: Pre-commit script to reject commits

2008-03-07 Thread Rainer Müller
Blair Zajac wrote: I was thinking that we should have a pre-commit script reject commits if a portfile does not increment a revision or version if it changes any of its depends_*. I find this pretty annoying to see commits that add a dependency that don't bump a version or revision. I

Re: Ticket #14569: update pv

2008-03-08 Thread Rainer Müller
Matthew K. Meissner wrote: Would a committer mind taking a look at ticket #14569 and committing it if deemed OK? I submitted the ticket on Thursday and had a user of the port inquire today on the status. Committed in r34849. Rainer ___

Re: livecheck not finding latest version

2008-03-09 Thread Rainer Müller
Simon Ruderich wrote: I found another small problem with the livecheck. I have a port in my local repository which uses ${name}-${version} as livecheck.version. With the current version it gives me the following. First it says it matched and then it doesn't. I can also reproduce the issue

Maintainer away tracking

2008-03-09 Thread Rainer Müller
Hi, It happens from time to time that some maintainer is busy with work or school, has to move, is on vacation or attends some other event which prevents him from taking action on new tickets. So I want to setup a new wiki page (like MaintainerAway) where anybody can add himself with a small

Re: [MacPorts] #14342: python25 drops modules by default, but python25 doesn't (js)

2008-03-10 Thread Rainer Müller
Derek Harland wrote: I'm not sure I particularly like this proposed change. As I understand it, you explicitly want to *downgrade* the functionality of python24 to make it more like python25, by for example, removing hashlib and zlib. I cannot understand the logic of this. This can

Re: Enabling configureccache by default?

2008-03-11 Thread Rainer Müller
js wrote: ccache really saves so much time, but it is off by default. Assuming this is just because MacPorts installer does not contain ccache, how about adding ccache into the installer and making configurecache on by default? I think this would help many users who don't know about ccache,

Re: [MacPorts] #14342: python25 drops modules by default, but python25 doesn't (js)

2008-03-11 Thread Rainer Müller
js wrote: If I add zlib dependency to python24, I'd also add it to python25. But if you you add it as dependency, what is the benefit from putting it in its own port? Rainer ___ macports-dev mailing list macports-dev@lists.macosforge.org

Re: [34938] trunk/dports/lang/python23/Portfile

2008-03-12 Thread Rainer Müller
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Revision: 34938 http://trac.macosforge.org/projects/macports/changeset/34938 Author: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008-03-12 00:12:32 -0700 (Wed, 12 Mar 2008) Log Message: --- python23: use appropriate dependency type Modified Paths:

Re: Maintainer away tracking

2008-03-17 Thread Rainer Müller
Rainer Müller wrote: It happens from time to time that some maintainer is busy with work or school, has to move, is on vacation or attends some other event which prevents him from taking action on new tickets. So I want to setup a new wiki page (like MaintainerAway) where anybody can add

Re: Maintainer away tracking

2008-03-17 Thread Rainer Müller
Daniel J. Luke wrote: On Mar 17, 2008, at 9:37 AM, Rainer Müller wrote: So, this proposal was out now for about a week and nobody replied. If you don't like it, please tell me at least why you think it is not a good idea. We already have the 72 hour timeout, the option of putting

Re: Maintainer away tracking

2008-03-17 Thread Rainer Müller
Salvatore Domenick Desiano wrote: o If there was some way to indicate that something o required action by me, o o like say, a ticket assigned or CC'd to you? ;-) Is that true? If I, at a minimum, look at all e-mails cc'd to me, will that be sufficent to make sure I'm not holding anyone up?

Re: new port search format

2008-03-20 Thread Rainer Müller
William Siegrist wrote: Maybe something along the lines of the w option to ps? Or a verbose flag that turns on/off the descriptions? Hm, we could remove the descriptions by default and only show it in verbose mode. Although, then users might miss the descriptions at all? If you only want

Re: new port search format

2008-03-21 Thread Rainer Müller
Ryan Schmidt wrote: No, I don't want any of that, I just want what we had before. :) You really just want to revert back to the old messy format? I agree it got to be a mess when descriptions were longer than the terminal window, which is why I have a shortcut to maximize a window, and

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