Re: Really Strange Problem with VoiceOver on iPhone: VoiceOver Saying Login in Strange Places

2013-06-07 Thread Alex Hall
First, try erasing both apps, if you have not already done so. I'm wondering if, somehow or other, the label for the field changed when you were logged out of the apps due to inactivity, so vo is now grabbing the only label (or maybe first label, or label of the element in the same position),

Re: Really Strange Problem with VoiceOver on iPhone: VoiceOver Saying Login in Strange Places

2013-06-07 Thread Nicholas Parsons
Thanks, Alex, for your help. I just tried deleting the apps. Problem still the same. I'm a little reluctant to reset the settings. Don't really like the thought of having to set everything up again. Would this include Mail, Contacts and Calendars? If it didn't fix the problem, would I be able

Re: Really Strange Problem with VoiceOver on iPhone: VoiceOver Saying Login in Strange Places

2013-06-07 Thread Ray Foret jr
Wait! Not so fast here. Some tips that will make reseting much less of a pain. 1. First, back everything you can from your Iphone in to Icloud. Do this off the main settings window. 2. Now, reset your phone. During the reset process, you will be offered the option of setting your phone

Re: Really Strange Problem with VoiceOver on iPhone: VoiceOver Saying Login in Strange Places

2013-06-07 Thread Alex Hall
Yes, but the settings that are cuasing the problem will get resored right along with everything else. Resetting settings is not something I've done before, so I don't know if it wipes out mail, calendars, and the rest. Still, calendars, contacts, reminders, and all that (once set to iCloud)

Re: Really Strange Problem with VoiceOver on iPhone: VoiceOver Saying Login in Strange Places

2013-06-07 Thread Ray Foret jr
Yes, the settings you've saved in the cloud will in fact restore to your phone if you set it up under your name when you have the choice of setting it up as a new phone or under your name. Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The

Re: Really Strange Problem with VoiceOver on iPhone: VoiceOver Saying Login in Strange Places

2013-06-07 Thread Alex Hall
Right, that's my concern. If the problem is somewhere in the settings, then it will be restored, so the whole process just puts the problem right back as though it never left. On Jun 7, 2013, at 3:41 PM, Ray Foret jr rfore...@att.net wrote: Yes, the settings you've saved in the cloud will in

Re: Really Strange Problem with VoiceOver on iPhone: VoiceOver Saying Login in Strange Places

2013-06-07 Thread Nicholas Parsons
Yes, exactly. I already have reset and restored and the problem was restored along with the settings. Alex's suggestion of resetting the settings and not restoring might solve the problem. My concern is if it doesn't for some reason solve the problem I will want all my settings back lol. I

Re: Really Strange Problem with VoiceOver on iPhone: VoiceOver Saying Login in Strange Places

2013-06-07 Thread Ray Foret jr
Well, the other side of that is that if one doesn't try, how will one know? Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user! On Jun 7, 2013, at 2:45 PM, Alex Hall

Re: Really Strange Problem with VoiceOver on iPhone: VoiceOver Saying Login in Strange Places

2013-06-07 Thread Alex Hall
Yes, you can do that easily, I forgot about iTunes. On Jun 7, 2013, at 3:48 PM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, exactly. I already have reset and restored and the problem was restored along with the settings. Alex's suggestion of resetting the settings and not

Re: Really Strange Problem with VoiceOver on iPhone: VoiceOver Saying Login in Strange Places

2013-06-07 Thread Ray Foret jr
Sure, you can just acativate Voice Over via ITunes if you must: but, don't need to. When you reset your phone, just quickly tap the home button three times the instant you feel it vibrate. But, of course, you knew that didn't you? Just checking. Sent from my mac, the only computer with

Re: Really Strange Problem with VoiceOver on iPhone: VoiceOver Saying Login in Strange Places

2013-06-07 Thread Nicholas Parsons
Ray, We were talking about simply resetting the iPHone's settings, not all the data. When you just reset the settings you don't go through that set up process again. In fact, now I think of it I'm not even sure you lose VoiceOver when doing this. I'm pretty sure I've done it before for someone