Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

riginal Message - >> From: Krister Ekstrom <mailto:kris...@kristersplace.com> >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >> Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 1:44 PM >> Subject: Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever? >>

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nfiguration environments. >> >> Chris. >> >>> - Original Message ----- >>> From: Krister Ekstrom <mailto:kris...@kristersplace.com> >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>> Sent: Sunday, Octob

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Hello Brian, You can stop VO saying Embedded by setting When encountering a link/attachment to Do Nothing. It’s in VoiceOver Utility/Verbosity/Text. Cheers, Anne : > On 19 Oct 2015, at 14:30, Brian Fischler wrote: > > Chris, > > After two days since the debacle of a

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Hi Anne, Thanks for that, just changed it. This will be nice. > On Oct 19, 2015, at 9:32 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: > > Hello Brian, > > You can stop VO saying Embedded by setting When encountering a > link/attachment to Do Nothing. It’s in VoiceOver

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gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Is that with the official build, or is that with the private beta? I >>>>> confess I really haven't tried doing anything with Safari over there >>>>> since I finally got successfully updated. How are

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;> - Original Message - >> From: Krister Ekstrom <mailto:kris...@kristersplace.com> >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >> Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 1:44 PM >> Subject: Re: Safari on the Mac worse than

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>> From: Krister Ekstrom <mailto:kris...@kristersplace.com> >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >> Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 1:44 PM >> Subject: Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever? >> >>

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ight, command+left and right, etc. > were brought over from Unix/Linux? Now how cool is that! > > Chris. > > - Original Message - From: "Phil Halton" <philh...@gmail.com> > To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Sunday, October 18,

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tober 18, 2015 2:54 PM Subject: Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever? I am using them on a particular website that uses an open source text editing package to fill-in text fields on the website. Now with safari nine it seems I can no longer navigate or use those keystrokes in that same website

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glegroups.com> > Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 2:54 PM > Subject: Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever? > > > I am using them on a particular website that uses an open source text editing > package to fill-in text fields on the website. Now with safari nine it seems > I c

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Yeah, let us know. It would be interesting if you find out anything further. Chris. - Original Message - From: "Phil Halton" <philh...@gmail.com> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 3:06 PM Subject: Re: Safari on the Mac worse

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Native text widgets for me; no web applications required. Affects the post field on for example forum.audiogames.net, which is a standard multiline text entry area. I turn QuickNav off because leaving it on pretty much blocks cursor movement. The VO keys are then to be avoided; only cursor

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ally with >>>> Jamie. In all this drama about how the mac is worse, and how Windows is >>>> becoming more appealing, we've lost the main topic. It's so bad now, I >>>> don't even know what exactly the initial bugs are. >>>> Can someone give a refres

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Hi, Not confirmed here. Only problem i have with web content is that sometimes not always in Facebook, when typing, VO reads all of what you’ve typed so far. Workaround: Turn voiceover off and back on again. /Krister > 18 okt. 2015 kl. 06:31 skrev Sabahattin Gucukoglu : > >

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bugs get worked out first. >>>>>>>> On Oct 15, 2015, at 5:42 PM, Sadam Ahmed <sadam.li...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>>>>>> This is why I have Rolled back to Yosemite. >> >>>>>>>> These are some of the worst b

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s are. >>> Can someone give a refresher, without that is, being all slammy toward >>> either Windows, or toward Apple? Leave your opinions out. For now, I >>> just want the facts. >>> Again, I definitely mean this with all due respect. >>> Chris. >

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com> > Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 12:25 AM > Subject: Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever? > > > The two big ones that I think constitute annoying but non-critical blockers > are the broken editing of text in edit fields on Safari and the continued > non-responsiveness

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goodness, I have a Superduper backup. > > Chris. > > - Original Message - From: "Sabahattin Gucukoglu" <listse...@me.com> > To: "'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries" <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 12:31 AM &g

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tober 18, 2015 9:36 AM Subject: Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever? As to text editing and edit fields on Safari, I can verify that I can no longer use the basic UNIX text movement in navigation and editing commands in edit fields. Under the prior OS I could at the very least use option left ri

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Visionaries“ Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 12:54 PM Subject: Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever? I’m not sure why editing commands wouldn’t work for anyone. They are working perfectly fine for me. Just tested it. -- Anything is possible, Brandon Olivares

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To: “Mac Visionaries“ <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >> Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 12:54 PM >> Subject: Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever? >> >> I’m not sure why editing commands wouldn’t work for anyone. They are working >> perfectly fine for

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le O S. Chris. - Original Message - From: Brandon A. Olivares (The Pianist) To: “Mac Visionaries“ Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 12:54 PM Subject: Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever? I’m not sure why editing commands wouldn’t work for

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; *To:*“Mac Visionaries“ <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> *Sent:*Sunday, October 18, 2015 12:54 PM *Subject:*Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever? I’m not sure why editing commands wouldn’t work for anyone. They are working perfectly fine for me. Just tested it. -- Anything

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on the Mac worse than ever? I am using safari 9 on yosemity and it works like a charm. On 10/18/2015 12:10 PM, Brandon A. Olivares (The Pianist) wrote: Obviously, or else I would not have replied. -- Anything is possible, Brandon Olivares www.CoCreationCoaching.org

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- From: Krister Ekstrom To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 1:44 PM Subject: Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever? Hi, same here, editing commands work well here. /Krister 18 okt. 2015 kl. 18:54 skrev Brandon A. Olivares (The Pianist) <thepiani

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- Original Message - From: "Sabahattin Gucukoglu" <listse...@me.com> >> To: "'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries" <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >> Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 12:25 AM >> Subject: Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

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Am I understanding correctly that you're >>> stating that within a text area in Safari, one cannot properly edit text >>> which they have previously entered? OK, that's a dealbreaker for me, if so. >>> >>> Chris. >>> >>> - Original Message - Fro

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lt;brianfisch...@me.com> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2015 4:23 PM Subject: Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever? Hi Jamie, I had serious safari bugs with VO being extremely unstable meaning sites that i personally visit a lot fantasy pros and Facebo

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nitial problem was that people were >> experiencing with Safari in the first place. >> >> With all due respect, E.T, Is that too much to ask? >> >> Chris. >> >> - Original Message ----- From: "E.T." <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> >> To

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ent: Saturday, October 17, 2015 7:18 PM Subject: Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever? Chris. no its not too much to ask if we can strip out the non essential verbiage and get to the core issue. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the

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October 17, 2015 7:18 PM Subject: Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever? Chris. no its not too much to ask if we can strip out the non essential verbiage and get to the core issue. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What i

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in the least. Chris. - Original Message - From: "Devin Prater" <d.pra...@me.com> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2015 4:31 PM Subject: Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever? Well, if you don't want to read it, you can just delete it

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th Safari in the first place. > > With all due respect, E.T, Is that too much to ask? > > Chris. > > - Original Message - From: "E.T." <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> > To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2015 3

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t;E.T." <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2015 3:44 PM Subject: Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever? But it IS opinions regardless who says what. Its not a new concept that when someone has trouble with say, OS X, that m

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my question of what the initial problem was that people were >>> experiencing with Safari in the first place. >>> >>> With all due respect, E.T, Is that too much to ask? >>> >>> Chris. >>> >>> - Original Message - From:

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e lost the main topic. It's so bad now, I >>> don't even know what exactly the initial bugs are. >>> Can someone give a refresher, without that is, being all slammy toward >>> either Windows, or toward Apple? Leave your opinions out. For now, I >>> just

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unday, October 18, 2015 12:31 AM Subject: Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever? Well, let’s just say that I’ve opened TextEdit more than once now to do it, copying and pasting into Safari, just to avoid the pain of typing in Safari directly. Whether the text is repeated over and over from start

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The two big ones that I think constitute annoying but non-critical blockers are the broken editing of text in edit fields on Safari and the continued non-responsiveness while moving around Mail, either in tables in the classic view or in mail message content. If efficiency is important to you,

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koglu" <listse...@me.com> To: "'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries" <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 12:25 AM Subject: Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever? The two big ones that I think constitute annoying but non-critical blockers are th

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: Saturday, October 17, 2015 9:32 PM To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever? Well, let’s just say that I’ve opened TextEdit more than once now to do it, copying and pasting into Safari, just to avoid the pain of

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to Yosemite. >> >>>>>>>> These are some of the worst bugs I've seen since I started using the >>>>>>>> Mac back in 2010. >> >>>>>>>> Won't be updating until a update comes out to address these problems. >

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Well, let’s just say that I’ve opened TextEdit more than once now to do it, copying and pasting into Safari, just to avoid the pain of typing in Safari directly. Whether the text is repeated over and over from start with every character or simply not announced at all, the caret doesn’t follow

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To be honest, I’ve not seen the horrible Safari issues some are experiencing. What are a few of the worst bugs, here? Take care and have a great day. Jamie Pauls jamiepa...@gmail.com > On Oct 17, 2015, at 11:28 AM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote: > > You can report bugs to

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. - Original Message - From: "Anders Holmberg" <and...@pipkrokodil.se> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2015 8:52 AM Subject: Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever? Hi! But we can still complain and say a lot of things about apple here. But why n

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I was thinking the same thing. Chris. - Original Message - From: "george b" <gbma...@gmail.com> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2015 8:56 AM Subject: RE: Safari on the Mac worse than ever? Your correct, but don't you

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gt;>>>>> >>>>>> Yours truly, >>>>>> >>>>>> Sadam Ahmed >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>

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;>>> >>>>>>> These are some of the worst bugs I've seen since I started using the >>>>>>> Mac back in 2010. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Won't be updating until a update comes out to address these

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t;>>> >>>>>>> These are some of the worst bugs I've seen since I started using the >>>>>>> Mac back in 2010. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Won't be updating until a update comes out to address these problems. >>>&

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>>>>> Yours truly, >>>>>> >>>>>> Sadam Ahmed >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>&g

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Hi! Well i don’t see much of the issues you’re all talking about but i still use my windows and linux system for much of my web surfing as i want to have good braille support when using the web. /A > On 16 Oct 2015, at 15:29, Phil Halton wrote: > > Windows is starting to

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Hi! So how do i move settings from my old mac mini with el capitan beta to the new macbook air with Yosemite? Can this be done? /A > On 16 Oct 2015, at 10:31, Brian Fischler wrote: > > Oh yeah, and I can’t tell you how much I love the new mail bug when I delete > a thread

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semite. > >>>>>>> These are some of the worst bugs I've seen since I started using the >>>>>>> Mac back in 2010. > >>>>>>> Won't be updating until a update comes out to address these problems. > >>>>>>> You

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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever? Hi! But we can still complain and say a lot of things about apple here. But why not let apple hear from us by writing to them. I still won’t stop using my mac but i want it to be better for people with blindness

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gt; >>>>>> Yours truly, >>>>>> >>>>>> Sadam Ahmed >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>

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: Saturday, October 17, 2015 1:27 PM Subject: Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever? To be honest, I’ve not seen the horrible Safari issues some are experiencing. What are a few of the worst bugs, here? Take care and have a great day. Jamie Pauls jamiepa...@gmail.com On Oct 17

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amie Pauls <mailto:jamiepa...@gmail.com> *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> *Sent:* Saturday, October 17, 2015 1:27 PM *Subject:* Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever? To be honest, I’ve not seen the horrible Safari issues som

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d >> either Windows, or toward Apple? Leave your opinions out. For now, I >> just want the facts. >> Again, I definitely mean this with all due respect. >> Chris. >> >>- Original Message - >>*From:* Jamie Pauls <mailto:jamiepa...@gmail

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"george b" <gbma...@gmail.com> > To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2015 8:56 AM > Subject: RE: Safari on the Mac worse than ever? > > > Your correct, but don't you all think after 3 days of this subject line it is > time to mo

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Hey Anders, No, you cannot restore El Capitan preferences to Yosemite. Sorry. You had better either have a Yosemite backup, or start from scratch. As for browsing on the web, it’s just possible that one of the reasons you aren’t experiencing the issues others were is that you were using

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You can report bugs to accessibil...@apple.com. You can also, if you have access to the Apple Bug Reporter, Radar, use that system to file bugs against the “Accessibility” classification. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To

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t;E.T." <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2015 3:44 PM Subject: Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever? But it IS opinions regardless who says what. Its not a new concept that when someone has trouble with say, OS X, t

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com> Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 6:12 PM Subject: Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever? Hi, Safari on 10.11 is pretty pathetic right now. It’s the worst experience I’ve ever had while using OS X. On Oct 15, 2015, at 4:41 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com> wrote: Hell

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;>> >>>>>> Yours truly, >>>>>> >>>>>> Sadam Ahmed >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> >>

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t;>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On 16 Oct 2015, at 9:16 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland >>>>>> <clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Is that with the official build, or is that with t

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Well, much as I love the Open Sorcery in the fundamentals of OS X, I think blind software engineers aren’t likely, if for no other reason than that most of Apple’s development methodology is sadly inherently visual. Xcode promises to get better but unlike on Windows we realistically can’t draw

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; >>>>>>> Yours truly, > >>>>>>> Sadam Ahmed > >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone > >>>>>>> -- > > > >>>>>>>> On 16 Oct 2015, at 9:16 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland >>

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haven't tried doing anything with Safari over there since >>>> I finally got successfully updated. How are people getting around this >>>> being that surfing the web is so heavily done now adays with computers? >>>> Are folks just using Crome instead? What about W

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>>> >>>>>> Won't be updating until a update comes out to address these problems. >>>>>> >>>>>> Yours truly, >>>>>> >>>>>> Sadam Ahmed >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from

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though. Chris. - Original Message - From: "Mike Arrigo" <n0...@charter.net> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 1:05 PM Subject: Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever? I do think Apple is more committed to accessibility than Micr

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his >>> being that surfing the web is so heavily done now adays with computers? >>> Are folks just using Crome instead? What about Webkit? Is it any better? >>> >>> Chris. >>> >>> - Original Message - From: "Daniel Miller&

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My opinion is that once the new hotness (i.e., El Capitan) is out, you can expect that Safari will be simultaneously broken and also not quite functional once updated in previous releases, with any change to accessibility concentrating on the new hotness at the expense of the old, so that you

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It’s report-a-bug Friday. Why not send Apple a note? :) For myself, my El Cap install is back to its old Yosemite ways, with Mail being back to a crawl with large folders. I have no idea why, but rolling back is no option, either. So, yeah, accept the way things are, and suffer. Oh, and

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Oh yeah, and I can’t tell you how much I love the new mail bug when I delete a thread of messages and then a few minutes later a error message pops up telling me the previous batch of messages can’t be moved to the trash. Way to go Apple that is an impressive one. Why would anyone want to

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Windows is starting to look like an option again. Glad I never left it and kept it as a VM on my MBA. Maybe it's time to get a Windows machine with NVDA and Jaws Sent from my IPhone > On Oct 16, 2015, at 4:31 AM, Brian Fischler wrote: > > Oh yeah, and I can’t tell you

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I’ll take a browser that’s at least accessible, unlike the new Edge browser in windows 10, thanks. > On Oct 16, 2015, at 8:29 AM, Phil Halton wrote: > > Windows is starting to look like an option again. Glad I never left it and > kept it as a VM on my MBA. Maybe it's time

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Don't worry you guys. El Capitan is the best and greatest and most bug free OS ever, because we've tested it and tested, and reported again and again, and sure, big bugs were squished, but little bugs bite worse. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 16, 2015, at 3:31 AM, Brian Fischler

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;>> confess I really haven't tried doing anything with Safari over there since >>>> I finally got successfully updated. How are people getting around this >>>> being that surfing the web is so heavily done now adays with computers? >>>> Are folks just using

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I >>>>> confess I really haven't tried doing anything with Safari over there >>>>> since I finally got successfully updated. How are people getting around >>>>> this being that surfing the web is so heavily done now adays with >>>>

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Well, Windows is looking good right now, and maybe I'll get a Windows laptop next, but my Mac has lasted for years. But yes, Windows 10, with Thunderbird, which isn't accessible on the mac, and Firefox, does look pretty darn good, along with Quick Windows Sequencer, and all the console

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@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Phil Halton Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 9:30 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever? Windows is starting to look like an option again. Glad I never left it and kept it as a VM on my MBA. Maybe it's time to get a Windows

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I sadly disagree that NVDA is competent enough to replace JAWS or Window-Eyes. Getting there as more and more apps are supported, for sure, but not there yet; that’s simply not how the Windows ecosystem works in practice, in my experience. The Mac has a large body of natively Cocoa software

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;>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On 16 Oct 2015, at 9:16 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland >>>>>> <clgilla

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gt;>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On 16 Oct 2015, at 9:16 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland >>>>>> <clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I

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t; Chris. >> >> - Original Message - From: "Daniel Miller" <miller...@gmail.com> >> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >> Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 6:12 PM >> Subject: Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever? >> >> >>

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Crome instead? What about Webkit? Is it any better? >> >> Chris. >> >> - Original Message - From: "Daniel Miller" <miller...@gmail.com> >> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >> Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 6:12 PM >

Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

Hello. Just been using Safari as I went to the online RNIB library catalogue. Safari is terrible on that website and I wonder if Safari is broken? Once I sign in and browse for books either in braille or for Talking books, Safari won’t read the search results as it keeps saying dialogue.

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? Are folks just using Crome instead? What about Webkit? Is it any better? Chris. - Original Message - From: "Daniel Miller" <miller...@gmail.com> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 6:12 PM Subject: Re: Safari on the Mac worse th

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Hi, Safari on 10.11 is pretty pathetic right now. It’s the worst experience I’ve ever had while using OS X. > On Oct 15, 2015, at 4:41 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: > > Hello. > > Just been using Safari as I went to the online RNIB library catalogue. > Safari is terrible

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lt;macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 6:12 PM > Subject: Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever? > > > Hi, > > Safari on 10.11 is pretty pathetic right now. It’s the worst experience I’ve > ever had while using OS X. > >> On