Re: Eleven Message Conversation Collapsed Disclosure Triangle?

2022-10-29 Thread Herbie Allen
ionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: Eleven Message Conversation Collapsed Disclosure Triangle? > > It is presenting the messages in a thread. Simply Right arrow to expand the > thread and go down through the message list. There are other w

RE: Eleven Message Conversation Collapsed Disclosure Triangle?

2022-10-29 Thread Fazil M.
Collapsed Disclosure Triangle? It is presenting the messages in a thread. Simply Right arrow to expand the thread and go down through the message list. There are other ways, but I find that the easiest. You can delete a message from within the thread or left arrow and hit your delete key

Re: Eleven Message Conversation Collapsed Disclosure Triangle?

2022-10-29 Thread Herbie Allen
onversation Collapsed Disclosure Triangle.” > How can I expend this conversation and read this Disclosure Triangle, please? > What does, basically, Disclosure Triangle mean? > Thanks! > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. &

Eleven Message Conversation Collapsed Disclosure Triangle?

2022-10-29 Thread Fazil M.
Hi, Group. Mostly I check my emails on Windows but this morning, when I tried to check my email on Mac, I navigated to Message-table and interacted with it. Voiceover said: "Conversation Eleven Message Conversation Collapsed Disclosure Triangle." How can I expend this conversatio

Re: Disclosure Triangle Cell?

2021-10-15 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi, A disclosure triangle is the indicator that tells us whether a folder, or tree, is open or closed. Graphically, for the sighted user, the triangle points to the right when it is closed and points down when it’s open. For us VO users, it usually says expanded or collapsed, or open/closed

Disclosure Triangle Cell?

2021-10-15 Thread Fazil
Hi, Group. This morning, when I expended a two-message conversation with right arrow, VoiceOver said: "You are currently on a Disclosure Triangle Cell inside a table, to navigate a cell.." What is this Disclosure Triangle Cell, what does it do and how should I negotiate with it, pleas

Re: Silencing 'disclosure triangle' (was: Safari Verbosity Driving Me Bonkers Any Help How to get rid of)

2016-04-16 Thread Brian Fischler
t activities as a whole are not >> even working for me so sorry about the incorrect info. If you do set >> verbosity to low it will get rid of the announcement of disclosure triangle >> but not sure why the activity will not stay set. >>> On Apr 15, 2016, at 5:12 PM, Jonath

Re: Silencing 'disclosure triangle' (was: Safari Verbosity Driving Me Bonkers Any Help How to get rid of)

2016-04-16 Thread John Panarese
bit and I just found out that activities as a whole are not even > working for me so sorry about the incorrect info. If you do set verbosity to > low it will get rid of the announcement of disclosure triangle but not sure > why the activity will not stay set. >> On Apr 15, 2

Re: Silencing 'disclosure triangle' (was: Safari Verbosity Driving Me Bonkers Any Help How to get rid of)

2016-04-16 Thread Brian Fischler
Hey all, Yes it was working for me but I think it was because I had set my verbosity to low for a bit and I just found out that activities as a whole are not even working for me so sorry about the incorrect info. If you do set verbosity to low it will get rid of the announcement of disclosure

Re: Silencing 'disclosure triangle' (was: Safari Verbosity Driving Me Bonkers Any Help How to get rid of)

2016-04-15 Thread Jonathan Cohn
Mail is quite interesting with this. In the messages view the disclosure triangle will not speak if overall verbosity is set to low, even if disclosure triangle verbosity is set to high. Best wishes, Jonathan > On 15 Apr 2016, at 07:07, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote: >

Re: Silencing 'disclosure triangle' (was: Safari Verbosity Driving Me Bonkers Any Help How to get rid of)

2016-04-15 Thread Devin Prater
It didn't work for me either. I suppose the only way would be to do some regular expression tricks in pronounciation dictionary. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 15, 2016, at 6:07 AM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote: > > Hello, > I just tried this as well. I set disclosure t

Silencing 'disclosure triangle' (was: Safari Verbosity Driving Me Bonkers Any Help How to get rid of)

2016-04-15 Thread Alex Hall
Hello, I just tried this as well. I set disclosure triangle to 'custom', and unchecked 'name' and 'type' in the table. I hit OK, closed the VO Utility, and even turned VO off and back on. In Mail (the only place I have ready access to disclosure triangles), it didn't do anything, sadly. Did I

Re: VoiceOver Incorrectly Announcing “Expanding” When Disclosure Triangles are Collapsing

2015-01-02 Thread Tim Kilburn
On Jan 2, 2015, at 16:59, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone else noticed VoiceOver incorrectly announcing “expanding” when disclosure triangles are collapsing? It seems to be a bug introduced with Yosemite. If I VO space on a disclosure triangle, whether

VoiceOver Incorrectly Announcing “Expanding” When Disclosure Triangles are Collapsing

2015-01-02 Thread Nicholas Parsons
Has anyone else noticed VoiceOver incorrectly announcing “expanding” when disclosure triangles are collapsing? It seems to be a bug introduced with Yosemite. If I VO space on a disclosure triangle, whether it is collapsed or expanded, VoiceOver will announce “expanding”. The function works

Re: VoiceOver Incorrectly Announcing “Expanding” When Disclosure Triangles are Collapsing

2015-01-02 Thread Andrew Lamanche
Yes, I can confirm this too. Please let's report to accessibility. Andrew On 2 Jan 2015, at 23:59, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone else noticed VoiceOver incorrectly announcing “expanding” when disclosure triangles are collapsing? It seems to be a bug

Re: My fix was cannot open disclosure triangles to view conversations in mail

2014-03-17 Thread Christina C.
Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com wrote: VO-backslash will open disclosure triangles when VO is focused on them. Also, you can do the VO-mouse-click (VO-shift-space) or VO-space to have VO activate them. htH, Teresa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

Re: My fix was cannot open disclosure triangles to view conversations in mail

2014-03-17 Thread Jessica
I use left and right arrow to expand and close disclosure triangles. It works 100% of the time. Jessica jldai...@gmail.com On Mar 17, 2014, at 1:23 PM, Christina C. blindmaclo...@gmail.com wrote: Randomly I will suddenly not be able to expand my email threads. The thing that always works

Re: My fix was cannot open disclosure triangles to view conversations in mail

2014-03-17 Thread Christina C.
: I use left and right arrow to expand and close disclosure triangles. It works 100% of the time. Jessica jldai...@gmail.com On Mar 17, 2014, at 1:23 PM, Christina C. blindmaclo...@gmail.com wrote: Randomly I will suddenly not be able to expand my email threads. The thing that always

Re: Can't Stop the Collapsed Disclosure Triangle message in mail

2014-03-04 Thread Jonathan Mosen
as well. Traci On Mar 2, 2014, at 11:49 AM, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com wrote: i dont see the colapse disclosure your talking, can you be more specific On 02 Mar 2014, at 09:05 am, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote: Hi all, in the VoiceOver Preferences under

Re: Can't Stop the Collapsed Disclosure Triangle message in mail

2014-03-04 Thread Geoff Stephens
I also achieved the desired result (not to have the disclosure triangle spoken at all in Mail) in 10.9.1. However, I am also experiencing the extremely annoying phenomenon where it is spoken in Mail no matter where I set it in Verbosity in 10.9.2. This is extremely disappointing as other

Re: Can't Stop the Collapsed Disclosure Triangle message in mail

2014-03-03 Thread Traci Duncan
Yes, I've noticed the same issue and haven't found a work around. It is quite annoying. I had this setting turned off as well. Traci On Mar 2, 2014, at 11:49 AM, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com wrote: i dont see the colapse disclosure your talking, can you be more specific

Re: Can't Stop the Collapsed Disclosure Triangle message in mail

2014-03-03 Thread Jonathan Mosen
around. It is quite annoying. I had this setting turned off as well. Traci On Mar 2, 2014, at 11:49 AM, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com wrote: i dont see the colapse disclosure your talking, can you be more specific On 02 Mar 2014, at 09:05 am, Jonathan Mosen jmo

Re: Can't Stop the Collapsed Disclosure Triangle message in mail

2014-03-03 Thread Daniel Hawkins
, 2014, at 11:49 AM, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com wrote: i dont see the colapse disclosure your talking, can you be more specific On 02 Mar 2014, at 09:05 am, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote: Hi all, in the VoiceOver Preferences under verbosity, I've unchecked

Can't Stop the Collapsed Disclosure Triangle message in mail

2014-03-02 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi all, in the VoiceOver Preferences under verbosity, I've unchecked the option to hear the collapsed Disclosure Triangle message, which is just hugely verbose. It seems to work everywhere else, but as of 10.9.2, I can't stop the message in Mail. When you group by conversation, this is a lot

Re: Can't Stop the Collapsed Disclosure Triangle message in mail

2014-03-02 Thread Dionipher Presas Herrera
i dont see the colapse disclosure your talking, can you be more specific On 02 Mar 2014, at 09:05 am, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote: Hi all, in the VoiceOver Preferences under verbosity, I've unchecked the option to hear the collapsed Disclosure Triangle message, which is just hugely

Re: cannot open disclosure triangles to view conversations in mail

2013-12-23 Thread Terje Strømberg
Same here from time to time. The only thing i found that works so far, is to restart the computer. Fortunately this error don`t occur every day. Take care -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

Re: cannot open disclosure triangles to view conversations in mail

2013-12-23 Thread Jessica D
It does for me. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 23, 2013, at 5:52 AM, Terje Strømberg terjestrmb...@gmail.com wrote: Same here from time to time. The only thing i found that works so far, is to restart the computer. Fortunately this error don`t occur every day. Take care -- You received

Re: cannot open disclosure triangles to view conversations in mail

2013-12-23 Thread Alex Hall
One thing I find works is to turn VO off, right arrow until the message opens (try moving up and down to re-focus on the conversation if necessary) and then turn VO back on. This rarely happens to me, but doing the above always fixes it and is much easier than a restart. On Dec 23, 2013, at

Re: cannot open disclosure triangles to view conversations in mail

2013-12-23 Thread Teresa Cochran
VO-backslash will open disclosure triangles when VO is focused on them. Also, you can do the VO-mouse-click (VO-shift-space) or VO-space to have VO activate them. htH, Teresa Wishing everyone a joyous holiday season and a happy New Year! -- You received this message because you

Re: cannot open disclosure triangles to view conversations in mail

2013-12-23 Thread Terje Strømberg
Nice, will try them all next time. Take care -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this

cannot open disclosure triangles to view conversations in mail

2013-12-22 Thread Jessica
Hi, I can’t open a disclosure triangle to view the messages in conversations. I have my view headers set to custom so it only tells me what I need to know. Why can’t I open disclosure triangles? Jessica jldai...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

More Info Disclosure feature

2012-09-11 Thread Emilio Hernandez
Hello everyone, Within the information feature of a file exists the more information element that provides more detailed data about a file or folder. This is hit or miss when I expand to view the source info, so is there a more reliable way that can show me the same information? Thank you all.

Re: Please explain disclosure triangles

2012-08-14 Thread Mary Scott
I do not hear the word plus or minus. How do I click on it? Sorry for silly question. On Aug 13, 2012, at 2:17 PM, Chris christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Hey at least we do not get those stupid balloons on the mac yea! On 13/08/2012 17:36, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote: It's more like

Re: Please explain disclosure triangles

2012-08-14 Thread Chris Blouch
If you are in the finder in list view each folder will read FolderName Collapsed or FolderName Expanded You can use plain old up/down to go up and down the tree and then right left to expand/collapse the folder. Once expanded, up/down will include all the child files/folders. If you are

Re: Please explain disclosure triangles

2012-08-14 Thread Mary Scott
This is so super. Thank you. My son spent time with me today and helped me so much. I discovered that my biggest issue with opening files is that I did not realize how long I had to wait before the file actually opened. I tend to be impatient and my son just kept telling me to wait and let

Please explain disclosure triangles

2012-08-13 Thread Mary Scott
I do not understand disclosure triangles. Are they important for me to work with as a VO user? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from

Re: Please explain disclosure triangles

2012-08-13 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, Mary, Disclosure triangles are used for examining files or browsing for them within a dialog. Suppose you want to save a file and you want to save it somewhere other than the default location listed. You can press VO-space on the disclosure triangle and this will open up a display

Re: Please explain disclosure triangles

2012-08-13 Thread Chris
I don't either, there is no equivalent on the other platform. Thanks! On 13/08/2012 15:31, Mary Scott wrote: I do not understand disclosure triangles. Are they important for me to work with as a VO user? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

Re: Please explain disclosure triangles

2012-08-13 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi, it really is what is sounds like. A disclosure triangle is a toggle that hides and shows information. For example, in Mail, you might have a conversation that is closed. Activating the disclosure triangle will reveal all the messages contained within that conversation. Ricardo Walker

Re: Please explain disclosure triangles

2012-08-13 Thread Mark BurningHawk Baxter
I love the literalness of Apple's OS. A disclosure triangle is just that, tongue NOT in cheek: I triangular area on the screen which, when clicked, will disclose something to you. You may not need to have this information disclosed, so it's enclosed in a triangular area. Interacting

Re: Please explain disclosure triangles

2012-08-13 Thread erik burggraaf
: I do not understand disclosure triangles. Are they important for me to work with as a VO user? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from

Re: Please explain disclosure triangles

2012-08-13 Thread Mark BurningHawk Baxter
It's more like those stupid balloons that would pop up that said things like, You have updates for your computer waiting to be downloaded; click this balloon for more details. Except that it's nothing like that because these are accessible, NOT annoying and … just better. • Mark BurningHawk

Re: Please explain disclosure triangles

2012-08-13 Thread Chris
, there is no equivalent on the other platform. Thanks! On 13/08/2012 15:31, Mary Scott wrote: I do not understand disclosure triangles. Are they important for me to work with as a VO user? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post

Re: Please explain disclosure triangles

2012-08-13 Thread Chris
Hey at least we do not get those stupid balloons on the mac yea! On 13/08/2012 17:36, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote: It's more like those stupid balloons that would pop up that said things like, You have updates for your computer waiting to be downloaded; click this balloon for more details.

disclosure triangles?

2012-04-29 Thread Alex Hall
Hi all, As I go through mail messages, and sometimes in other places, I hear 'disclosure triangle. What is this, how do I use it, and how do I get at the information I imagine it provides when activated? Thanks. As you probably figured, I am using the mac more now that it runs well (amazing

Re: disclosure triangles?

2012-04-29 Thread Lewis Alexander
when you hear the words disclosure triangle this is an icon representing that a folder has sub folders. as an example, if you're in mail and you have a directory like G-MAIL, this contains sub directories such as sent and deleted items, etc. interacting with this component is like any other

Re: disclosure triangles?

2012-04-29 Thread Greg Aikens
Disclosure triangles are a way to hide or reveal extra info or options. If the disclosure triangle is collapsed, the extra options are hidden and if it is expanded they are displayed. Press VO+Space to toggle a disclosure triangle. In mail, expanding a disclosure triangle shows the list

Re: disclosure triangles?

2012-04-29 Thread Alex Hall
the messages table, so that's probably why vo-space failed. On 29 Apr 2012, at 12:47, Greg Aikens wrote: Disclosure triangles are a way to hide or reveal extra info or options. If the disclosure triangle is collapsed, the extra options are hidden and if it is expanded they are displayed

Re: disclosure triangles?

2012-04-29 Thread Greg Aikens
failed. On 29 Apr 2012, at 12:47, Greg Aikens wrote: Disclosure triangles are a way to hide or reveal extra info or options. If the disclosure triangle is collapsed, the extra options are hidden and if it is expanded they are displayed. Press VO+Space to toggle a disclosure triangle

Re: disclosure?

2009-11-22 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Donna, On Nov 21, 2009, at 10:11 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: Do you happen to know why in this case it just says disclosure? I've no idea. Sorry. Cheers, Anne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send

Re: disclosure?

2009-11-21 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Donna, Disclosure is short for Disclosure triangle which many people refer to as a Flippy Triangle because clicking it causes it to flip over. Cheers, Anne On Nov 20, 2009, at 10:58 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: Hi Erik, Thanks. Yeah, that's kind of a weird term. I was originally

Re: disclosure?

2009-11-21 Thread Donna Goodin
Hii Anne, Interesting. Do you happen to know why in this case it just says disclosure? Usually, when you come to a disclosure triangle, it says disclosure triangle. Donna On Nov 21, 2009, at 3:35 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Donna, Disclosure is short for Disclosure triangle which

Re: disclosure?

2009-11-20 Thread erik burggraaf
Hi, I'm not sure why they picked the word disclosure, but the upshot of it all is, if you check the box you get browsing options in case you want to change the patth without having to type it. Unchecked the browsing options are hidden or nondisclosed. Checked they are revealed

disclosure?

2009-11-19 Thread Donna Goodin
Hi all, In the Save as Dialog in Text Edit, there is a checkbox that simply says Disclosure. To what does this refer? TIA, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar

Re: disclosure?

2009-11-19 Thread Marshall Scott
, there is a checkbox that simply says Disclosure. To what does this refer? TIA, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email

Re: disclosure?

2009-11-19 Thread Donna Goodin
Hi Marsh, I did click it and see all that stuff. It was clear that these things were connected, but I wanted to make sure that the disclosure option didn't impact anything else. Thanks for the explanation. Best, Donna On Nov 19, 2009, at 10:50 AM, Marshall Scott wrote: Hi Donna, Checking

Thanks. Was disclosure triangles.

2009-07-13 Thread Jenny Kennedy (Howard)
Hi To Jessie and everyone who helped me with te triangles thing. Thanks! VO backslash works wonderfully! also love the VO shift M command. I love figuring out and learning new things to do with this Mac and VO. :-) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this

Re: disclosure triangles? How to open/close them?

2009-07-12 Thread patrickneazer
trouble though. That is those disclosure triangles. Namely in iTunes. In my podcast lists. How the heck do you open them? I tried the VO shif M thing but I can't figure it out. I did it a few times on the macbook keyboard but its kind of broken so using wireless full size keyboard. It is driving me

disclosure triangles? How to open/close them?

2009-07-12 Thread Jenny Kennedy (Howard)
Hi my mac using friends, all right. I've gone for two, or two and a half weeks not using the screen at all . Its pretty nice. I have one tiny little trouble though. That is those disclosure triangles. Namely in iTunes. In my podcast lists. How the heck do you open them? I tried the VO shif

Re: disclosure triangles? How to open/close them?

2009-07-12 Thread Jessi and Goldina
hey Jennie, you can open and close disclosure triangles with VO backslash. I have to do that to open the various categories for iTunes radio and it works great!! On 12-Jul-09, at 9:17 PM, Jenny Kennedy (Howard) wrote: Hi my mac using friends, all right. I've gone for two, or two