Re: mac/voiceover on a laptopRe: does reading on the mac take two hands?

2009-07-23 Thread Chris Blouch
, Anouk, - Original Message - From: Victor Tsaran vtsa...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 9:42 AM Subject: Re: does reading on the mac take two hands? Beware, however, that even though you can lock control and option keys, you

Re: mac/voiceover on a laptopRe: does reading on the mac take two hands?

2009-07-21 Thread erik burggraaf
/voiceover on a laptopRe: does reading on the mac take two hands? Hi Anouk, The numpad is in deed optional, and there really isn't that much difference between using vo on a laptop or desktop configuration. Although having said that, my disgust at not having a numpad on my laptop keybord

Re: mac/voiceover on a laptopRe: does reading on the mac take two hands?

2009-07-21 Thread erik burggraaf
using it on a laptop or a pc... Greetings, Anouk, - Original Message - From: Victor Tsaran vtsa...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 9:42 AM Subject: Re: does reading on the mac take two hands? Beware, however, that even though you can lock

Re: mac/voiceover on a laptopRe: does reading on the mac take two hands?

2009-07-21 Thread erik burggraaf
@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 8:29 PM Subject: Re: mac/voiceover on a laptopRe: does reading on the mac take two hands? Hi Anouk, You don't need to use a numeric keypad with VoiceOver, but with Leopard you have another option of customizing your frequently used

Re: mac/voiceover on a laptopRe: does reading on the mac take two hands?

2009-07-20 Thread Dan Eickmeier
/voiceover on a laptopRe: does reading on the mac take two hands? Hi Anouk, You don't need to use a numeric keypad with VoiceOver, but with Leopard you have another option of customizing your frequently used VoiceOver commands with the NumPad Commander. I did get a USB keypad, the Lenovo

Re: does reading on the mac take two hands?

2009-07-18 Thread Victor Tsaran
Beware, however, that even though you can lock control and option keys, you will find yourself in frequent situations where you need to unlock them, e.g. when browsing the web or trying to interact with various objects (tables, HTML CONTENT areas etc). It does get a little annoying to use

mac/voiceover on a laptopRe: does reading on the mac take two hands?

2009-07-18 Thread a radix
@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 9:42 AM Subject: Re: does reading on the mac take two hands? Beware, however, that even though you can lock control and option keys, you will find yourself in frequent situations where you need to unlock them, e.g. when browsing the web or trying

Re: mac/voiceover on a laptopRe: does reading on the mac take two hands?

2009-07-18 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Anowk, A numeric keypad is not necessary for VoiceOver, it's just another option. I prefer not to use one but I suspect I'm in the minority there. With VoiceOver, there is very rarely just one way of doing something. Very few of us have had any formal training in VoiceOver, so we tend

Re: mac/voiceover on a laptopRe: does reading on the mac take two hands?

2009-07-18 Thread Alex Jurgensen
or a pc... Greetings, Anouk, - Original Message - From: Victor Tsaran vtsa...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 9:42 AM Subject: Re: does reading on the mac take two hands? Beware, however, that even though you can lock control and option

Re: mac/voiceover on a laptopRe: does reading on the mac take two hands?

2009-07-18 Thread Alex Jurgensen
@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 2:19 PM Subject: Re: mac/voiceover on a laptopRe: does reading on the mac take two hands? Hi Anouk, The numpad is in deed optional, and there really isn't that much difference between using vo on a laptop or desktop configuration

Re: mac/voiceover on a laptopRe: does reading on the mac take two hands?

2009-07-18 Thread Alex Jurgensen
: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Jurgensen Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 6:45 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: mac/voiceover on a laptopRe: does reading on the mac take two hands? Hi, It is optional with a numpad

Re: mac/voiceover on a laptopRe: does reading on the mac take two hands?

2009-07-18 Thread Esther
: Victor Tsaran vtsa...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 9:42 AM Subject: Re: does reading on the mac take two hands? Beware, however, that even though you can lock control and option keys, you will find yourself in frequent situations where you need

Re: mac/voiceover on a laptopRe: does reading on the mac take two hands?

2009-07-18 Thread May and Wynter
: Re: mac/voiceover on a laptopRe: does reading on the mac take two hands? Hi May, No, you don't need to have a numeric keypad if you want to put Windows on your Mac. The usual issue is that people who put Windows onto curremt Mac laptops using VMWare Fusion end up having to remap the JAWS

Re: mac/voiceover on a laptopRe: does reading on the mac take two hands?

2009-07-18 Thread May and Wynter
...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 9:41 PM Subject: Re: mac/voiceover on a laptopRe: does reading on the mac take two hands? Hi there Mike H here. Mabey I can ancer your question about they laptop key mapping. I am running window's xp under a VM. I have

Re: mac/voiceover on a laptopRe: does reading on the mac take two hands?

2009-07-18 Thread Esther
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 8:29 PM Subject: Re: mac/voiceover on a laptopRe: does reading on the mac take two hands? Hi Anouk, You don't need to use a numeric keypad with VoiceOver, but with Leopard you have another option of customizing your frequently used

does reading on the mac take two hands?

2009-07-17 Thread a radix
Hello everyone, ok this may sem elike a strange question but I read that, if you want to navigate through a window to review it, or a document for example you need to use the voice key (which is either command or control if i got that right)+ arrow down or up, but would tha tnot require both

Re: does reading on the mac take two hands?

2009-07-17 Thread william lomas
you have to use control option and arrow keys, to navigate around On 17 Jul 2009, at 14:31, a radix wrote: Hello everyone, ok this may sem elike a strange question but I read that, if you want to navigate through a window to review it, or a document for example you need to use the voice

Re: does reading on the mac take two hands?

2009-07-17 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Anowk, On Jul 17, 2009, at 3:31 PM, a radix wrote: I read that, if you want to navigate through a window to review it, or a document for example you need to use the voice key (which is either command or control if i got that right)+ arrow down or up, but would tha tnot require

Re: does reading on the mac take two hands?

2009-07-17 Thread erik burggraaf
Hi, you will get best joy out of your braille display, since a button on your display will be set to scroll right and another to scroll left. In many instances where reading is required, such as typing a document in text edit, the arrow keys do just fine on their own with out needing to

Re: does reading on the mac take two hands?

2009-07-17 Thread Alex
Hi, Most of the time you can use Down Arrow/Up Arrow/Left Arrow/Right Arrow in documents. Regards, Aex, On Jul 17, 2009, at 6:56 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Anowk, On Jul 17, 2009, at 3:31 PM, a radix wrote: I read that, if you want to navigate through a window to review it, or

Re: does reading on the mac take two hands?

2009-07-17 Thread Esther
Hi Anouk, Although you use the VoiceOver keys (Control and Option) for navigation, you can lock these keys on with VO-semi-colon (Control- Option-Semi-colon). Then any commands you issue assume that the VoiceOver keys (Control and Option) are engaged until your press semi- colon again.

Re: does reading on the mac take two hands?

2009-07-17 Thread Chris Blouch
You can also lock the voiceover keys on with VO and semicolon. Then you don't have to hold down control and option while doing voiceover commands. CB william lomas wrote: you have to use control option and arrow keys, to navigate around On 17 Jul 2009, at 14:31, a radix wrote: Hello

Re: does reading on the mac take two hands?

2009-07-17 Thread Scott Bresnahan
Hi, In addition to Ester's excellent recommendations, there's a system extension called USB Overdrive that will allow you to set keyboard actions for USB key presses on controllers and mice. Although I don't know what the Braille devices appear as to the USB bus, it may be possible that USB

Re: does reading on the mac take two hands?

2009-07-17 Thread kaare dehard
there is a work around here, and this is purely from the use of voice perspective. if you first press ctrl-option then ; you can then use the arrow keys on the keyboard to move vo around one-handedly . When done don't forget to press ctrl-option-; again to return the behavior to normal for

Re: does reading on the mac take two hands?

2009-07-17 Thread a radix
have gotten from voicover and second to try it all out after I have finished reading the manual. Greetings, Anouk, - Original Message - From: kaare dehard To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 7:17 PM Subject: Re: does reading on the mac take two hands

Re: does reading on the mac take two hands?

2009-07-17 Thread a radix
17, 2009 4:02 PM Subject: Re: does reading on the mac take two hands? Hi Anouk, Although you use the VoiceOver keys (Control and Option) for navigation, you can lock these keys on with VO-semi-colon (Control-Option-Semi-colon). Then any commands you issue assume that the VoiceOver keys

Re: does reading on the mac take two hands?

2009-07-17 Thread a radix
, - Original Message - From: erik burggraaf To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 3:55 PM Subject: Re: does reading on the mac take two hands? Hi, you will get best joy out of your braille display, since a button on your display will be set to scroll right

Re: does reading on the mac take two hands?

2009-07-17 Thread Josh de Lioncourt
PM Subject: Re: does reading on the mac take two hands? Hi Anouk, Although you use the VoiceOver keys (Control and Option) for navigation, you can lock these keys on with VO-semi-colon (Control- Option-Semi-colon). Then any commands you issue assume that the VoiceOver keys (Control

Re: does reading on the mac take two hands?

2009-07-17 Thread Alex Jurgensen
Hi, USB OverDrive does not work with the PM 40 display for sure. It just doesn't show up. Regards, Alex, On 17-Jul-09, at 7:33 AM, Scott Bresnahan wrote: Hi, In addition to Ester's excellent recommendations, there's a system extension called USB Overdrive that will allow you to set