Android phone not vissible on my mac.

2016-02-18 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! On my mac mini i can not see my android Phone even when i connect it directly into it. It doesn’t appeare as a device. Any ideas? The phone is a Motorola Moto G and the mac is a mac mini mid 2011 running elcapitan beta. My victor reader stream appears as a device so its very strange that

RE: Windows 7 to a network drive then to my mac

2016-02-18 Thread Simon Fogarty
Hi Tony, If you can save the disk as an ISO format file then you could use that image to install I believe Otherwise I would suggest obtaining a USB optical drive and installing from that. As for installing without sight, To a point yes, When you start the vm fusion installation the vm wizard

RE: bootcamp question

2016-02-18 Thread Simon Fogarty
Hi Don, Really easy, In the spotlight search, type in boot camp and the assistant should pop up, you then hit enter and it start up. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of don bishop Sent: Thursday, 18 February

Re: Silent "T" in Yosemite

2016-02-18 Thread Bill Gallik
Well thank you so much Ann! I will certainly take your tip and alter the keyboard voice. (Please note that I attempted to use as many words with a “t” in them as I might!) ;-) * * * * * * * * * Bill Gallik wfgal...@icloud.com > On Feb 18, 2016, at 12:48 AM, Anne Robertson

Re: Record your iPad or iPhone screen

2016-02-18 Thread Bill Gallik
Just thought I’d pass along a tip when recording from an iOS device that a few may not be aware of and could benefit. When locating the item you want recorded (a song, a screen, or whatever) turn speech off (3-finger double tap) but leave VoiceOver enabled. What this does is retain the focus

Re: Frustrated with Apple Pay

2016-02-18 Thread Jonathan Cohn
Did you verify that the credit card was fully authorized? Go back into your wallet and read the details of the offending card. > On Feb 17, 2016, at 20:25, Sarai Bucciarelli > wrote: > > Hi guys: > I have a new iphone 6s. I bought it for Apple pay. I cannot get

Re: Android phone not vissible on my mac.

2016-02-18 Thread erik burggraaf
Hi, It's an android thing. If you install android file transfer for mac you should see that your moto G shows up. That may not help you get files to and from the device. For that the best option I've found is droidnas, but I haven't found it easy to set up. Total commander and one of the

Re: Frustrated with Apple Pay

2016-02-18 Thread Sarai Bucciarelli
Hi: I did. Says default card. > On Feb 18, 2016, at 7:06 AM, Jonathan Cohn wrote: > > Did you verify that the credit card was fully authorized? Go back into your > wallet and read the details of the offending card. > > >> On Feb 17, 2016, at 20:25, Sarai Bucciarelli

Re: Frustrated with Apple Pay

2016-02-18 Thread Jonathan C. Cohn
info? Also, there is a card name in the more info followed by the word installed. Despite being not labeled as a button or link this is clickable on my phone and might give more details. What does the screen say when you click more Jonathan Cohn > On Feb 18, 2016, at 8:50 AM, Sarai

Re: Android phone not vissible on my mac.

2016-02-18 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! Ok. Thanks for advice. /A > On 18 Feb 2016, at 14:16, erik burggraaf wrote: > > Hi, It's an android thing. If you install android file transfer for mac you > should see that your moto G shows up. That may not help you get files to and > from the device. For

Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

2016-02-18 Thread Scott Granados
Wonder if anyone else is following Tim Cook’s position against being forced to cripple the security on iPhones. Anyone have any comments? -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this

Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

2016-02-18 Thread Michael Malver
I have a very important comment: This topic should be off topic for this list, which deals with how blind people interact with iPhones. I am not a moderator, but I hope I am right about this. > On Feb 18, 2016, at 11:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote: > > Wonder if anyone else

Re: To The List About The Recent Spam

2016-02-18 Thread Scott Granados
I do have to say, I didn’t even notice it. It always amazes me how quickly people can et their panties in a bunch. Not saying that happened this time but a little f bomb here and there really isn’t the end of the world. If that message offended anyone I would hate to see how they would

Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

2016-02-18 Thread Scott Granados
No you’re not, this list has long since been determined to cover everything from Apple including phones, computers, watches, as well as the company itself, software, and the carriers or vendors who provide related products and services. Meaning there’s nothing more on topic than Tim Cook him

Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

2016-02-18 Thread E.T.
Good for Tim Cook. I heard comments from both sides of the fence and I say, once Big Brother moves in, there is no evicting him. Sure, its a sticky wicket. We want to get the bad guy but at what cost? From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been

Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

2016-02-18 Thread Scott Granados
Very important comment, that’s pretty funny. > On Feb 18, 2016, at 12:30 PM, Michael Malver wrote: > > I have a very important comment: > This topic should be off topic for this list, which deals with how blind > people interact with iPhones. I am not a moderator, but I hope

Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

2016-02-18 Thread E.T.
Not to encourage more heavy traffic but this IS an important issue especially for blind users. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 2/18/2016 9:30 AM, Michael Malver wrote: I have a very important

Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

2016-02-18 Thread Scott Granados
ET very well stated. The thing that amazes me is how the Media in the US is totally mistaking what Apple has been asked to do. Apple is not being asked to hack in to the specific phone, they probably can’t. They are being asked to create a tool that the government can use with out limitation

Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

2016-02-18 Thread Scott Berry
Hello there, Both of you stated it very well. You know the government doesn’t need to be in my business. I hope Tim Cook fights this tooth and nail like I think he will. > On Feb 18, 2016, at 10:40 AM, Scott Granados wrote: > > ET very well stated. > > The thing that

Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

2016-02-18 Thread E.T.
The Patriot Act was exactly what came to mind. This is what scares me about the Republicans. I shall say no more. Just keep those grubby little fingers out of my private life which is hardly private any more. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we

RE: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

2016-02-18 Thread Michael Malver
Two questions: 1. Why is this topic any more important for blind users than for any other? That supposition is non-sensical to me. 2. Since this topic is apparently on-topic, why couldn't Apple design some sort of tool whereby law enforcement could send a specific device to Apple, who could

Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

2016-02-18 Thread Scott Granados
Hi Michael, I agree with you on the first I think this topic is equally important to any citizens or anyone who does business or transacts with in the US. So I agree I think it’s important for blind users but in the same way it’s important for left handed users or PC users.:) Secondly, you

Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

2016-02-18 Thread CHUCK REICHEL
Hi E.T, Your missing the boat! Its any of the progressives whether its R or D they are both power hungry! Any Device you have is being tracked! BTW thats why I am an Independent! And filter all this news they want us to hear through the Word of GOD! :) And a happy apple user since 1993! Chuck

RE: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

2016-02-18 Thread Michael Malver
Maybe I’m confused. I thought the issue what that law enforcement couldn't hack the password to this guy's phone, thus they can't get to the data. Is Apple's incryption truly uncrackable, that is, if Apple could remove the data storage from the unit, can they not decrypt their own encryption? I

Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

2016-02-18 Thread E.T.
Michael, I urge you to do your own moderating by using that delete key on messages that bother you. I had to do that very task hundreds of times just this week. And I expect that task is far from over. (smiles) From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have

Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

2016-02-18 Thread Scott Granados
Michael, again very astute observations. Apple can not crack their own cryptography from what I understand. It uses some very strong algorithms that are based on key pairs. When you put in your fingerprint and pin you seed a process that then encrypts your phone and it would take more

Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

2016-02-18 Thread Sandi Jazmin Kruse
so here is the thing, from what i understand and iPhones are not my favorite subject, but ill try my best. When you lock your iPhone the key too encrypt it all is on your phone, apple don't have it anymore, so not even they can unlock the iPhone, not even if they wanted, if you use a lock code on

RE: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

2016-02-18 Thread Michael Malver
Awesome, thanks. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2016 12:27 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Any comments on Apple's position against

Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

2016-02-18 Thread Scott Granados
So the EFF is with apple I believe, Google and Facebook, it’s just the media who the government controls and the FBI who want this. Just to add one small correction though, the pin isn’t the key it’s self. So while you’re right about the number of combinations of 4 digits the actual number of

Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

2016-02-18 Thread Sandi Jazmin Kruse
Scot, but now imagine that apple looses… just for the sake of the discussion… what will be next, our cars? the sat nav? when will it stop? On 2/18/16, Scott Granados wrote: > So the EFF is with apple I believe, Google and Facebook, it’s just the media > who the government

Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

2016-02-18 Thread Robin
I'm NOT 1 to SupportApple, but I'm with TimCook as it pertains to Privacy on its Apple HardWare/SoftWare Devices At 09:27 AM 2/18/2016, you wrote: Wonder if anyone else is following Tim Cook’s position against being forced to cripple the security on iPhones. Anyone have any comments? --

Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

2016-02-18 Thread Scott Granados
You don’t have to sell me about the over reach of Government. I’ve been a Libertarian since before it was cool.:) (ok it still probably isn’t but that’s besides the point) You’re absolutely right though. I have worked for telephone companies and global carriers for years now and I’ll tell

Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

2016-02-18 Thread Robin
It's NOT just Republicans, it's Democrats AsWell & Other Politicians At 09:53 AM 2/18/2016, you wrote: The Patriot Act was exactly what came to mind. This is what scares me about the Republicans. I shall say no more. Just keep those grubby little fingers out of my private life which is

Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

2016-02-18 Thread E.T.
If Apple loses, we all lose. And how do we know what Big Brother really is snooping into now? But I surmise that if the government is attempting to force Apple into creating a tool, might that suggest we still have some measure of privacy? Its a nice thought. From E.T.'s Keyboard...

Re: To The List About The Recent Spam

2016-02-18 Thread Gary
YesScott, I completely and totally agree, but I must say … Can you please say under pants and not the other. lol Thank you very much. Gary On Feb 18, 2016, at 11:25 AM, Scott Granados wrote: > I do have to say, I didn’t even notice it. It always amazes me how quickly >

Re: To The List About The Recent Spam

2016-02-18 Thread Scott Granados
How about unmentionables. lol > On Feb 18, 2016, at 2:00 PM, Gary wrote: > > YesScott, I completely and totally agree, but I must say … Can you please say > under pants and not the other. lol > Thank you very much. > Gary > On Feb 18, 2016, at 11:25 AM, Scott Granados

Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

2016-02-18 Thread Karen Lewellen
Not only is Apple 100% correct here, the FBI is not using other doors, such as the fingerprints of those involved. A master key like the one the FBI desires seeing created is simply unwise to develop. Hackers have anoth leeway, and no one should have their privacy compromised in this

Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

2016-02-18 Thread Scott Granados
Karen, you raise a really really good question. Why don’t they just use the fingerprint of the phone owner. He’s dead anyway so you don’t have to worry about his specific rights, he’s dead.:) Couldn’t they lift a print or even a finger and just use that? Now I really smell a rat since they

Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

2016-02-18 Thread Michael Malver
If someone e used my fingerprints to open my phone, and then use data against me with that be a form of self incrimination? > On Feb 18, 2016, at 1:08 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: > > Not only is Apple 100% correct here, the FBI is not using other doors, such > as the

Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

2016-02-18 Thread Scott Granados
No, the courts have said that the police can compel you to place your finger on the censor. But in this case I don’t think it matters, the phone owner is dead. The people in question here are the two supposed terrorists from Pasadena. So since they are dead I think you could do it. Great

Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

2016-02-18 Thread Michael Malver
Maybe he chose not to activate the fingerprint reader. Even if he did, how would you know which finger he chose? If you didn't get the fingers absolutely right the first time, you could destroy the data on the phone. Michael > On Feb 18, 2016, at 1:10 PM, Scott Granados

Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

2016-02-18 Thread Karen Lewellen
I am wondering what media you are following. articles in the La times, the Washington post, bloomberg, even usa today, are linking directly to Mr. Cook's statement. Further many are sharing how the FBI could be solving this issue, taking note of other industry companies who are concerned.

Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

2016-02-18 Thread Scott Granados
You should be able to dust the phone for prints and see which ones are in contact with the surface? Plus you only have 10, you could try at least 8 of them probably with out issue. Good thought though, this is the type of stuff the investigators think about so it’s a good effort to try to

Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

2016-02-18 Thread E.T.
I may be mistaken but I think I heard this phone is a 5c. Does that model support fingerprint ID? Still, if one door is closed, another can be legally opened. I fail to see how the missing 18 minutes can be sufficient grounds for trashing what is left of our privacy. Where is Daniel Webster

Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

2016-02-18 Thread Scott Granados
CBS, WBZ out of Boston this morning was reporting that Apple was being asked to break in to the individual phone only, not develop a tool to access all phones which is in fact the case. Also, KGO out of San Francisco was reporting the same thing. So no but I’m glad to see that the sources you

RE: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

2016-02-18 Thread Karen Lewellen
First, is it your suggestion that there is a general group called blind people all the same and somehow separate from the rest of humanity? I am unsure why it needs to be more important but I would never reduce your individual experience of sight loss to my own. second, Apple has been doing what

RE: Frustrated with Apple Pay

2016-02-18 Thread M. Taylor
Two more things to consider when using Apple Pay, Sarai, 1. The terminal transmitter is not necessarily directly adjacent to the terminal's display. When I first began using Apple Pay, I would virtually lay the phone against the display of the terminal, while this usually worked, it did not

Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

2016-02-18 Thread Karen Lewellen
Many in the American press are asking that very question, especially since they do have those fingerprints. No explanation as of yet. additionally, Apple is getting lots of company on the legal front to fight the request. Kare On Thu, 18 Feb 2016, Scott Granados wrote: Karen, you

Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

2016-02-18 Thread Karen Lewellen
Actually it might depend on the person using both things. If you have broken the law and our phone is being investigated as a part of the crime it will really depend on the search warrant Obtained. A rather gray legal area these days. Still in the Apple FBI case many security professionals

Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

2016-02-18 Thread Karen Lewellen
great question. The understanding i have read is that the fingerprint reader was in use. There was a regular backup of data from the phone up till the individual discontinued that backup shortly before the shootings. This is why the fingerprint door may be best, it is likely most recent. I do

Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

2016-02-18 Thread Karen Lewellen
really? Would love to know what reporter with those outlets did not do their homework. A swift review of google news sources clears up that mystery..frankly so does reading Tim's statement. were those blogs? Might explain the error. On Thu, 18 Feb 2016, Scott Granados wrote: CBS, WBZ out

Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

2016-02-18 Thread Scott Granados
No, they are traditional news sources. The KGO radio story ran for more than one day with that misinformation. It was one of the talk show hosts themselves that set the news department straight on the air. WBZ I have no idea what their problem is, it’s a major CBS station. I think it just

Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

2016-02-18 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! Whats this all about? I haven’t read anything. But it would be great to hear what others might think. /A > On 18 Feb 2016, at 18:36, Scott Granados wrote: > > Very important comment, that’s pretty funny. > >> On Feb 18, 2016, at 12:30 PM, Michael Malver

Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

2016-02-18 Thread Scott Granados
Ah sorry, for folks across the pond or in other countries you might not be up to speed. In the US we had a supposed terrorist attack where two people walked in to a center and shot up the place in the name of ISIL or dAESH or what ever we’re calling the boogie man today. They supposedly had

Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

2016-02-18 Thread Karen Lewellen
I have been a media professional for many years. These days, someone might read a twitter post or a Facebook one and decide it is news, but i assure you that the major American media is not in the pocket of the government. Far too many of them are getting the story right to base an entire

full keyboard for Mac

2016-02-18 Thread Christina C.
Hello, Can anyone suggest a good keyboard for my Mac with a num pad? Wired or wireless is fine, I prefer budget friendly but I am open to ideas as long as it is easy to set up as a blind person and works well with all the voice Over key combinations. It also does not have to be apple brand. I

Re: full keyboard for Mac

2016-02-18 Thread John Panarese
The Apple USB full-sized keyboard works fine. I have two here I use with my Mac Mini and my iMac. I don’t recall the current price, but it’s not terrible. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website,

RE: full keyboard for Mac

2016-02-18 Thread Tony
I just got the Apple full size keyboard wired for around $50 on Amazon. I also have the latest Apple Magic Blutooth keyboard, which does not have a numpad for around $100, which by the way is my favorite, but both are great. Tony -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com

Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

2016-02-18 Thread E.T.
Karen, A good observation coming from one who is inside such a business. But its my observation that every individual who sees or hears the same event, even standing side by side, will have a different interpretation of that event. The media is not immune to this. But people who rely on

Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

2016-02-18 Thread Karen Lewellen
Well said to be sure. that is one reason why I am suggesting if it works for you visiting the news area of google. At last count there were over 4 thousand articles referenced from various sources. Even with some of those referencing the same article, one has a fine way to get informed in an

Re: full keyboard for Mac

2016-02-18 Thread Caitlyn Furness
Hi, apple sells a full sized keyboard. It’s wired, and I honestly can’t remember how much it cost since I got mine 6 years ago when I got my i mac. There is no set up required and it works fine with vo. hth, Caitlyn > On Feb 18, 2016, at 3:26 PM, Christina C. wrote:

Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

2016-02-18 Thread Gabe Griffith
Hi, I didn't see an answer to your question about the 5c having fingerprint ID. The answer is no it doesn't. I had one for a couple of years and couldn't ever use the fingerprint ID until I upgraded to the 6s. Gabe On Feb 18, 2016, at 11:19 AM, E.T. wrote: > I

Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

2016-02-18 Thread E.T.
Thanks Gabe. I thought that was the case so it remains to be seen if it was a 5c I heard then it makes the fingerprint issue a moot point. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 2/18/2016 2:19 PM,

Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

2016-02-18 Thread 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
Just a few summary bits: 1. The phone uses the user's PIN and a unique value burned into the device to come up with encryption key so there isn't a way to get that ID out of the device without first unlocking the device. There is also the 10 try limit and then the data self destructs, so it's

Re: FYI: DRM is Evil. Very, Very, Very Evil

2016-02-18 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
Thanks to everybody else who got in touch to help me with this situation. I will explain in detail the DRM at the end of the post, so people living in restricted countries can tune out and avoid the thought police, but you all played your part in helping me understand how it worked. My brother

Re: Frustrated with Apple Pay

2016-02-18 Thread Sarai Bucciarelli
Hi Mark: I do not have my phone in a normal case. I have the Spek case that covers the back, and a Zagg glass screen protector. I was laying my phone on top of the terminal then moving up a bit. > On Feb 18, 2016, at 1:37 PM, M. Taylor wrote: > > Two more things to consider

Re: Frustrated with Apple Pay

2016-02-18 Thread Sarai Bucciarelli
Ok, I have: heading, cards, Visa card, ends with 1234. Flick to right and you hearadd credit or debit card, allow access when locked, double click home button on transaction defaults credit card name button. I double tap the button says choose a card, sellected card, Visa 1234. The card says

RE: Frustrated with Apple Pay

2016-02-18 Thread M. Taylor
Sarai, It sounds to me as though you were either not close enough to the actual transmitter which usually sits about 3 to 4 inches above the terminal's display or, somehow, the case was impeding the transmission. I suggest that you attempt a transaction with the phone out of the case and see

Re: Frustrated with Apple Pay

2016-02-18 Thread Sarai Bucciarelli
Hmm, Well I thought I had it because the credit card came up on the phone, and it vibrated. I plan on going out again this weekend. > On Feb 18, 2016, at 7:57 PM, M. Taylor wrote: > > Sarai, > > It sounds to me as though you were either not close enough to the actual >

finally got trillion up and running and have a question.

2016-02-18 Thread Jessica Moss
Ok, with a ton of playing around with it, I finally got trillian up and running, however, it now wants to show every single contact I have on facebook, which is over 100, whether they're on line or not, and is a pain in the neck to deal with, sense it doesn't say if they're on line or not. Is

RE: finally got trillion up and running and have a question.

2016-02-18 Thread BBS
Hi Jessica. My offline contacts are hidden by default. I don't know why that isn't the case for you. By the way, they released Trillian 3.4 which fixes the accessibility issues and more. It's not in the app store yet but I have it. Shawn Sent From My White MacBook Via Bootcamp and Windows 10

RE: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

2016-02-18 Thread Simon Fogarty
Not following it but I agree with him whole hartedly It doesn't take much for someone to work a jailbreak for an iphone IOS when it's out, so how long would it take for someone to find the back door into the OS if they did put one in. There was the same sort of issue with blackberrys and

RE: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

2016-02-18 Thread Simon Fogarty
And it will effect everyone world wide using iPhones or possibly any IOS device. I'd say just don't sell them to terrorists but hay which one is the terrorist? -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott

RE: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

2016-02-18 Thread Simon Fogarty
Were they americans? I thought they were European of some kind? And on that note of another type of tool that could get things unlocked and able to be viewed by the FBI, I guess it's security again though but could they somehow take copies of fingerprints setup on a device and then if the

RE: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

2016-02-18 Thread Simon Fogarty
I'm not an American, but It does concern me if Donald trump gets in. God help us all. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T. Sent: Friday, 19 February 2016 6:54 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject:

RE: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

2016-02-18 Thread Simon Fogarty
Doesn't the NSA watch you guys when your on the John? I'm glad I live in the deep south down under, no one really cares about us other than in rugby That's a sport where players don't wear pads or helmets -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com

RE: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

2016-02-18 Thread Simon Fogarty
Apart from that point where if your phone battery dies and you need to use the pin code to open it for the first time Or did they even have finguerprints setup on the devices. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of

RE: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

2016-02-18 Thread Simon Fogarty
And you can have up to 5 setup on the device so you've got a good chance of getting it right if they have all setup. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: Friday, 19 February 2016 8:18 AM To: