Vuescan and Lion
Hello Listers, I've recently joined the list but I've been following its invaluable resource for some time now. Many thanks to you all for sharing your knowledge. I was wondering whether Vuescan is accessible with Voiceover under Lion? Best wishes Andrew -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: back to previous version of itunes
Well, I am pushing my luck here, but, I have 3 backups of my system. Unfortunately, with Lion, Apple doesn't let you delete the iTunes.app file. However, since I do have 3 backups, i decided to take a chance. I booted up from 1 of my external backups and then deleted the iTunes.app file and the only other file I deleted was the library file called iTunes Library.Itl yes, I am sure there are good reasons to delete the preference files as well, but, I wanted to see if I could get away without doing it. Next, I installed iTunes 10.3.1 and rebuilt the library. So far, all appears to be well. if there's a problem, I will be able to delete the library and preference files if necessary. Wow, iTunes is back to working normally again. I had forgotten just how much faster it was before. So, if you have a clone or 2 of your existing setup, I urge you to give it a try. On Aug 5, 2011, at 4:44 PM, Red.Falcon wrote: Hi Denise I found this post from Esther! hth Colin Have you tried going to Apple's software downloads site? Assuming you are looking for laptop distributions, this would be: http://support.apple.com/downloads/#portablecomputers Use the web item rotor shortcut VO-U and set the rotor (pressing Up and Left arrow keys) to Headings. You'll find listings for both iTunes 10.4 and 10.3.1. However, the process of downgrading requires you to also delete files from your system's /Library/Receipts folder and also the associated preference file (com.apple.iTunes.plist) in the Library/Preferences folder of your user account.If you have a Time Machine backup of your older iTunes library, it's probably simpler to restore iTunes that backup. The reason that you need to make these additional file deletions is that your system's Software Updater checks your receipts to determine what version of each application you are running, what other dependencies that application version needs, and when you need a new download version. If you fix things by hand in such a way as to invalidate the current system records of what you have installed, you could run into problems. For example, iTunes uses QuickTime to play and record music, but that dependency is not something you need to know about -- unless you break something in the system. The reason you need to delete the .plist file is because the new version of iTunes may have settings for features that are not in the old preference file. I have not tried rolling back any of my versions of iTunes, but if you want to try it, I will point you to an appletoolbox.com web page with instructions for downgrading from iTunes 10.0.1 to 10.0 that outlines the likely steps you will need to take. I'm going to assume that your iTunes downgrade is independent of any system update from Snow Leopard to Lion. Here's theappletoolbox.com web page link: http://appletoolbox.com/2010/10/how-to-downgrade-itunes-10-0-1-to-itunes-10-0-get-genius-sidebar-back/ I'd be happier if I could find one specifically for downgrading from 10.4 to 10.3.1, but I haven't read anything that covers that. The old MacFixit site (before they sold it to CNet and the quality of content dropped) would probably have covered a topic like that. But it has been two years since that site was available, and the current site does not cover this subject. HTH. Cheers, Esther On 5 Aug 2011, at 16:34, Denise Avant wrote: Hello all, i was wondering if there is a way to go back to the previous version of iTunes under snow leopard. i am not too happy with this one. so far i have found it to be cumbersome and not work as well with voiceover. thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Resizing BootCamp Partition.
From where to get the winclone utility? Is it possible to whipe the entire hard disk, make a windows unattended install on the mac then clone with winclone, reinstall lion on the entire hd deleting all what is windows, create a bootcamp partition in the size we want and finally use winclone to get windows back on that partition? Why this very long and convoluted method? Simply because I don't want sighted help and want to use bootcamp not fusion. Original message: Hi, I recently covered this in an article I wrote and also posted to the mac visionaries list, and if you go here, you may find some use in this guide depending on what version of OSX you are using http://www.hurstaudioproductions.com/guides/bootcamping-with-vista-on-lion.htm HTH Cody - Original Message - From: Georges Zaynoun humorlessg...@samobile.net To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 9:38 AM Subject: Resizing BootCamp Partition. Hi! I wonder if it is possible after windows install to resize the bootcamp partition to be either smaller or larger, I know this should affect the macintosh hd partition consequently as well but this is what I am thinking of at the time, resizing after installation is done, thanks. -- Georges Zeinoun Timmerv. 6A, SE54163 SKÖVDE Tel: +46500201623, +46500482929 Mobile: +46707567315 E-mail: humorlessg...@samobile.net -- Georges Zeinoun Timmerv. 6A, SE54163 SKÖVDE Tel: +46500201623, +46500482929 Mobile: +46707567315 E-mail: humorlessg...@samobile.net Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: [Bulk] Vuescan and Lion
In a word, yes it very certainly is. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Aug 6, 2011, at 1:06 AM, Andrew Lamanche wrote: Hello Listers, I've recently joined the list but I've been following its invaluable resource for some time now. Many thanks to you all for sharing your knowledge. I was wondering whether Vuescan is accessible with Voiceover under Lion? Best wishes Andrew -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
multiple user on ipad
hi all, it sounds like stupid and dump question but, is that a way to create a multiple user mode on ipad? thanks cheers Joanne (AU) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
partitioning question
hi quick question how do i resize a partition it says resize control i had sl on it want to resize it not sure how to do it also there's another one saying free space thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: multiple user on ipad
Hi, This would probably get more answers on the viPhone list, but to answer your question, yes, this is meant to be possible if you jailbreak your iPad. Note that I haven't tried the program that is meant to make this work so I can't really comment on its accessibility, but it *should* be ok. Cheers, Ben. On 06/08/2011, Joanne Chua shuang.an...@gmail.com wrote: hi all, it sounds like stupid and dump question but, is that a way to create a multiple user mode on ipad? thanks cheers Joanne (AU) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: partitioning question
Hi Chad, If it is disk utility in Lion that you are talking about, then here's what you can do. Indeed there is a disk resize control, but interacting with it won't let you adjust it. However, a bit over to the right is an edit text box, where you will find the current size of the partition, and even if it is the startup disk, macintosh hd in this case, you can adjust it, by simply typing a new number here. Of course, you cannot have a partition larger than your drive, but if you want a new partition, in place of free space on macintosh hd, then simply lower the number in this text box and hit apply. You will get a dialog, stating that none of your partitions will be erased. Rather, their sizes will only be adjusted. As a former windows user, I found this partitioning feature which is part of the operating system, rather innovative. HTH. Paul. On Aug 6, 2011, at 10:24 AM, chad baker wrote: hi quick question how do i resize a partition it says resize control i had sl on it want to resize it not sure how to do it also there's another one saying free space thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Looking for an accessible DVD ripper
Hi Chris, Thanks for your response. When I insert a dvd into my machine with irip open, something else happens. Unfortunately it is not what you achieved and reported. On my machine, all that happens is that dvd player starts up. The irip window remains open, but even after closing the dvd player manually, it seems that irip doesn't see the disk in the drive. Do you have any idea if this is something I can correct? From holland, Paul. On Aug 5, 2011, at 9:12 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: Sorry for the delay, had to find a DVD to try this with as it's been a while. Generally the buttons you need appear in the window after a DVD has been inserted and mounted. The first thing will be the name of the folder which is usually the name of the DVD. You can rename this to anything you want. Next will be a RIP button, followed by an unlabeled button which is eject. After that is the compress button which shows up twice, first as an unlabeled button and then again as a button called Compress. Both do the same thing. I haven't played with Compress. CB On 8/4/11 1:58 PM, Paul Erkens wrote: Hi Chris, I just downloaded and ran irip. Getting out of the registration dialog that you land in at first, is a matter of going into the window menu and clicking the main window to focus it. However, how did you work with the rest? The toolbar gives no buttons. It's just an empty control that you can interact with, but then one can't do anything there. The rest of the interface looks really simple and promising though. The rest of the screen is uncluttered and barely contains anything more than a progress indicator. How do you rip a dvd yourself with it? Interested to hear. Regards, Paul. On Aug 4, 2011, at 5:07 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: The one is better which does what you want :) RipIt's web site claims a that it is guaranteed to work and they will even go out and buy a DVD to test if you have trouble with getting one to rip. Their focus is on simple so it's not going to do all kinds of fancy conversions or copy only selected parts, but it will get the DVD dumped to your hard drive and from there you have all kinds of options. Their site also says that using the Compress options makes a fiel playable in iOS devices and iTunes. Give the demo a try and if it does what you want you can buy it. CB On 8/4/11 12:53 AM, Paul Henrichsen wrote: Thanks. Got it. It's half the price of DVD Remaster pro. I wonder which is better? On Aug 1, 2011, at 11:31 AM, Chris Blouch wrote: Might want to give RipIt a try. They have a free demo version to download which lets you do a couple rips before you have to buy it. Purchase cost is $25. It's main thing is to copy protected disks but it will also do compression to create versions for ipods and such. http://thelittleappfactory.com/ripit/ CB On 8/1/11 1:08 AM, Paul Henrichsen wrote: Hi, Doug. Will it work with commercial DVD's as far as making a backup copy? Also, will it allow you to create an m4v file to put onto your iPad or iPhone? Thanks. On Jul 29, 2011, at 10:03 AM, Doug Lawlor wrote: Hi Paul, Check out dvd remaster. This program should do what you want and is very accessible. I'm not sure how much it is because when I bought the program it was on sale for 90% off the list price. Doug On 2011-07-29, at 1:42 PM, Paul Henrichsen wrote: Hi, guys. I am looking for an accessible DVD cloning program like Handbrake. I want to convert DVD's to m4v files I can copy to my iPhone. If handbrake is accessible, that's great; but is there a better one? I'd also like a program which will clone the DVD so I can have a backup and put the original away for safe keeping. I have clone DVD and Clone DVD mobile along with Any DVD HD from slysoft for windows, but they are totally inaccessible under windows. Is there something similar to the slysoft programs that is accessible on the mac? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more
Re: favorites bar in lion mail
Hi Teresa and list, That is clear so far. How would you go about removing an item from the favorites bar? I spent some time yesterday, trying to figure it out, but while making an alias to a mailbox inside the favorites bar is easy now that I know how to do it, it is not as easy to undo that. Any idea how that can be done? I'm asking because the favorites bar has a few items by default, that I want to remove. Paul. On Aug 5, 2011, at 7:17 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: Hi, Paul, The favorites bar contains shortcuts or aliases to the actual mailboxes. What you will want to do is use VO drag-and drop. Move the item from the favorites bar to the mailbox list with VO-comma and VO-period to drag and drop respectively. HTH, Teresa On Aug 5, 2011, at 10:05 AM, Paul Erkens wrote: Hi Brian and list, I managed to drag my private inbox to the favorites bar, so that it is easily reachable. I learned how to do that on this list. It is very useful, given the command 1 etc options. But now, is it possible to remove an item present in the favorites bar? There is an aggregate inbox that I'd like to get rid of, and also the sent items item is of little use to me in the favorites bar. Here's what I tried so far. 1. Delete and fn delete, with the v o cursor on the mailbox to remove, in the favorites bar. . However, since mail cannot know where the voiceover cursor is, this won't do it. 2. I moved the mouse to the favorites bar and to the mailbox I wanted to remove. V o command f5 gets the mouse pointer over to where the v o cursor is. I checked the mouse position with v o f5. Then, I held down control and pressed down the bottom left corner of the trackpad. This won't remove the mailbox intended, from the favorites bar though. Option click won't either. 3. Having the mouse on the mailbox name I want to remove from the favorites bar, clicking the mouse and attempting a context menu with v o shift m, won't do the job either. So, I think one should drag the mailbox off of the favorites bar to get rid of it there. Is that true? Where would a sighted person drop it on the screen? Can we get to an empty spot on the lion mail screen using voiceover? Interested to know. Paul. On Aug 5, 2011, at 6:04 PM, Bryan Jones wrote: Hello Paul, Whichever mailbox is reported as checked is the mailbox you will find when you navigate to your message list. I believe the checkboxes on Mail's Favorites bar would actually be better described as radio buttons because you can only have one selected at a time. You'll notice if you navigate between the items on the favorites bar, pressing VO+spacebar on one item will uncheck whichever other item was previously checked.. Regarding your second question: Yes, one of the functions of the favorites bar is to allow access to mailboxes if the mailbox list is closed. In addition, it also provides a nice set of shortcuts to selected mailboxes via the Command+1,2,3,etc keystrokes. The favorites bar can be used whether the mailbox list is opened or closed. HTH, Bryan On Aug 5, 2011, at 11:35 AM, Paul Erkens wrote: In the favorites bar that Teresa wrote about in Lion mail, there are checkboxes in front of the mailboxes I see there. What do these do? Also, am I correct in assuming that the favorites bar is there, so that one can switch mailboxes, even though the list of mailboxes is not opened? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: favorites bar in lion mail
Hello Paul, I was only able to drag a folder away from the favorites bar using the old drag and drop method: Move the VO cursor over to the folder you want to remove, in the Favorites bar. Move the mouse cursor to where the VO cursor is with VO Command F5 Press the mouse button down with VO Command space bar Stop interacting with the Favorites bar and move the VO cursor to the Mailboxes table. Move again the mouse cursor to the VO cursor with VO Command F5 Release the down mouse button with VO Command Space bar. And that's it. Hope it helps, André On Aug 6, 2011, at 11:24 AM, Paul Erkens wrote: Hi Teresa and list, That is clear so far. How would you go about removing an item from the favorites bar? I spent some time yesterday, trying to figure it out, but while making an alias to a mailbox inside the favorites bar is easy now that I know how to do it, it is not as easy to undo that. Any idea how that can be done? I'm asking because the favorites bar has a few items by default, that I want to remove. Paul. On Aug 5, 2011, at 7:17 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: Hi, Paul, The favorites bar contains shortcuts or aliases to the actual mailboxes. What you will want to do is use VO drag-and drop. Move the item from the favorites bar to the mailbox list with VO-comma and VO-period to drag and drop respectively. HTH, Teresa On Aug 5, 2011, at 10:05 AM, Paul Erkens wrote: Hi Brian and list, I managed to drag my private inbox to the favorites bar, so that it is easily reachable. I learned how to do that on this list. It is very useful, given the command 1 etc options. But now, is it possible to remove an item present in the favorites bar? There is an aggregate inbox that I'd like to get rid of, and also the sent items item is of little use to me in the favorites bar. Here's what I tried so far. 1. Delete and fn delete, with the v o cursor on the mailbox to remove, in the favorites bar. . However, since mail cannot know where the voiceover cursor is, this won't do it. 2. I moved the mouse to the favorites bar and to the mailbox I wanted to remove. V o command f5 gets the mouse pointer over to where the v o cursor is. I checked the mouse position with v o f5. Then, I held down control and pressed down the bottom left corner of the trackpad. This won't remove the mailbox intended, from the favorites bar though. Option click won't either. 3. Having the mouse on the mailbox name I want to remove from the favorites bar, clicking the mouse and attempting a context menu with v o shift m, won't do the job either. So, I think one should drag the mailbox off of the favorites bar to get rid of it there. Is that true? Where would a sighted person drop it on the screen? Can we get to an empty spot on the lion mail screen using voiceover? Interested to know. Paul. On Aug 5, 2011, at 6:04 PM, Bryan Jones wrote: Hello Paul, Whichever mailbox is reported as checked is the mailbox you will find when you navigate to your message list. I believe the checkboxes on Mail's Favorites bar would actually be better described as radio buttons because you can only have one selected at a time. You'll notice if you navigate between the items on the favorites bar, pressing VO+spacebar on one item will uncheck whichever other item was previously checked.. Regarding your second question: Yes, one of the functions of the favorites bar is to allow access to mailboxes if the mailbox list is closed. In addition, it also provides a nice set of shortcuts to selected mailboxes via the Command+1,2,3,etc keystrokes. The favorites bar can be used whether the mailbox list is opened or closed. HTH, Bryan On Aug 5, 2011, at 11:35 AM, Paul Erkens wrote: In the favorites bar that Teresa wrote about in Lion mail, there are checkboxes in front of the mailboxes I see there. What do these do? Also, am I correct in assuming that the favorites bar is there, so that one can switch mailboxes, even though the list of mailboxes is not opened? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To
Viewing Music by Albums in ITunes 10.4
Hello everyone. When I look at my music in ITunes 10.4 I just have a list of songs. I would like them grouped by album. I turned on the browser and checked the album in the view menu but I still get a list of songs. How can I view by album, artist, etc. Thanks so much. I hope you have a nice weekend. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Trillian - a new kid on the IM block
Hi folks. I am testing out an app that could or couldn't be an alternative to Adium. The name of the program is Trillian and it's available from the Mac App store. It's free, but apparently there is a pro version ov it as well, though i haven't tested that one. This app has a whole lot of goodies, like facebook, twitter, and the most common Instant messaging services like Aim, Icq and MSN and more. The facebook plugin actually lets you not only chat, but also lets you read and write posts, like and comment on others posts and see friends and so on. In the Twitter part, you can see following and followers. The IM part works like Adium, it has an edit box for you to type your message in, and a html area where the answer appears. Both are very accessible, although the bug where in groups mode you can't see more than one page is there. On the whole, Trillian seems at least to me to be accessible, however there are some tips and tricks one should be aware of: In the facebook part, if you want to comment on a certain message, you have to find it and then route the mouse to it (vo+cmd+f5) then you'll have to click the mouse (vo+shift+spacebar) to highlight the message. After this, you can right click on the message (vo+shift+m) and from the popup menu, decide what to do. Trillian works with Growl so it's actually possible to have Trillian speak the incoming chat messages, however that seems to be true only when the app is in the back ground. The biggest issue this app has is that when in the Facebook or twitter part of the app, you can't send your own posts to the services. There's an edit box to type in your message, but there's no send button that VO can see and the shortcuts for sending don't seem to work. I have filed a bug at the Cerulian studios bug tracker, so let's see if this gets fixed soon. Over all, i think Trillian is a nice experience, and hadn't it been for the fact that i can't send posts to facebook or Twitter, i might actually switch from Adium to Trillian. /Krister -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: favorites bar in lion mail
Sorry, guys; I couldn't remember which drag-and-drop method I'd used to do this. I'm pretty sure it was indeed the older method. Yesterday I had to use that method to add a folder to the favorites bar, and the new one was finding neither the draggable item nor the place to drop it. Teresa On Aug 6, 2011, at 4:42 AM, André Nuno Soares wrote: Hello Paul, I was only able to drag a folder away from the favorites bar using the old drag and drop method: Move the VO cursor over to the folder you want to remove, in the Favorites bar. Move the mouse cursor to where the VO cursor is with VO Command F5 Press the mouse button down with VO Command space bar Stop interacting with the Favorites bar and move the VO cursor to the Mailboxes table. Move again the mouse cursor to the VO cursor with VO Command F5 Release the down mouse button with VO Command Space bar. And that's it. Hope it helps, André On Aug 6, 2011, at 11:24 AM, Paul Erkens wrote: Hi Teresa and list, That is clear so far. How would you go about removing an item from the favorites bar? I spent some time yesterday, trying to figure it out, but while making an alias to a mailbox inside the favorites bar is easy now that I know how to do it, it is not as easy to undo that. Any idea how that can be done? I'm asking because the favorites bar has a few items by default, that I want to remove. Paul. On Aug 5, 2011, at 7:17 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: Hi, Paul, The favorites bar contains shortcuts or aliases to the actual mailboxes. What you will want to do is use VO drag-and drop. Move the item from the favorites bar to the mailbox list with VO-comma and VO-period to drag and drop respectively. HTH, Teresa On Aug 5, 2011, at 10:05 AM, Paul Erkens wrote: Hi Brian and list, I managed to drag my private inbox to the favorites bar, so that it is easily reachable. I learned how to do that on this list. It is very useful, given the command 1 etc options. But now, is it possible to remove an item present in the favorites bar? There is an aggregate inbox that I'd like to get rid of, and also the sent items item is of little use to me in the favorites bar. Here's what I tried so far. 1. Delete and fn delete, with the v o cursor on the mailbox to remove, in the favorites bar. . However, since mail cannot know where the voiceover cursor is, this won't do it. 2. I moved the mouse to the favorites bar and to the mailbox I wanted to remove. V o command f5 gets the mouse pointer over to where the v o cursor is. I checked the mouse position with v o f5. Then, I held down control and pressed down the bottom left corner of the trackpad. This won't remove the mailbox intended, from the favorites bar though. Option click won't either. 3. Having the mouse on the mailbox name I want to remove from the favorites bar, clicking the mouse and attempting a context menu with v o shift m, won't do the job either. So, I think one should drag the mailbox off of the favorites bar to get rid of it there. Is that true? Where would a sighted person drop it on the screen? Can we get to an empty spot on the lion mail screen using voiceover? Interested to know. Paul. On Aug 5, 2011, at 6:04 PM, Bryan Jones wrote: Hello Paul, Whichever mailbox is reported as checked is the mailbox you will find when you navigate to your message list. I believe the checkboxes on Mail's Favorites bar would actually be better described as radio buttons because you can only have one selected at a time. You'll notice if you navigate between the items on the favorites bar, pressing VO+spacebar on one item will uncheck whichever other item was previously checked.. Regarding your second question: Yes, one of the functions of the favorites bar is to allow access to mailboxes if the mailbox list is closed. In addition, it also provides a nice set of shortcuts to selected mailboxes via the Command+1,2,3,etc keystrokes. The favorites bar can be used whether the mailbox list is opened or closed. HTH, Bryan On Aug 5, 2011, at 11:35 AM, Paul Erkens wrote: In the favorites bar that Teresa wrote about in Lion mail, there are checkboxes in front of the mailboxes I see there. What do these do? Also, am I correct in assuming that the favorites bar is there, so that one can switch mailboxes, even though the list of mailboxes is not opened? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To
What's a Menu Pop-up Link?
Hi, all, Voiceover has changed some of its terminology with, the Lion release. What is a menu-pop-up link? I'm guessing it's a expandable menu on a webpage, but I'm not entirely sure. I found some examples on the Google Plus site. Perhaps a related question: I notice that the keystroke VO-shift-J will go to pop-up item. I can't for the life of me find an example of a context in which to use this particular command. Thanks, Teresa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
checkup for Mac
Has anybody used this application? It is half price via macupdate right now, and it sounds like a great application if it is accessible. It is suppose to monitor all aspects of your mac, from processor and other hardware to data and applications and easily lets you uninstall applications and their associated settings and data. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Google Chrome Web Browser
Please, I would like to know if OS X Lion Voiceover users have tried Google Chrome web browser? If so, what are people's experience with it, especially the accessibility or inaccessibility of it. If there are features or aspects that are very accessible or inaccessible, please do share those details. Thanks, Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: where do the new voices go?
Hi Mike and others. I totally love some of these new voices. I always thought Alex and I would have a monogamous relationship, but, well, you know, I have to confess that I've been cheating on him these days since more exciting things have come along. LOL. Actually, I love the idea that I can change up once in a while. Now, I am totally crazy about these higher quality voices and would like to get more of them, although I know they will not be free. I would say that you do need a fairly good computer to download and run some of these voices, but my iMac seems to like them just fine. I sure wish I could get some different voices on my iPhone now. On Aug 2, 2011, at 8:34 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: I just checked, the voics are definitely there. You may not want to just delete them though, if the system still thinks they are there, it may cause problems. I think if you uncheck the option for each voice, it may uninstall them, not sure on that though. The premium voices definitely use a large speech print, which is good, Apple choe to use the highest quality possible. While smaller speech prints take less space, the quality of the speech definitely suffers as a result. On Aug 2, 2011, at 5:19 AM, Red.Falcon wrote: Hi Ricardo! Someone on the other list suggested that you might find them in /System/Library/Speech/Voices. And be able to delete from there! Colin On 2 Aug 2011, at 01:27, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hello list, I was wondering, when you download the new voices found in Lion, where do they go? I ask because what if you wish to delete them? Thanks. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter Skype: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Garageband success again
Hi Ed Worrel, I'm trying to open your song by clicking the link in your email, but it won't play. Could it be that you moved or removed your song? There's a play button on the website, but it doesn't seem to do anything. Interested to hear your garage band creation. Do you know why it won't play? Paul. On Jul 27, 2011, at 7:05 PM, Ed Worrell wrote: Hello listers, sorry if this is off topic I just wanted to share My new creation with you all. I have created a new song with Garageband and I am very proud of it. I would love it if you could give me a little feedback, please email me at edworr...@bresnan.net with comments. So her is the link to My sound cloud page, the song is called The Suspect http://soundcloud.com/blinded/the-suspect Thanks ED P.S. here is the link to my Soundcloud profile http://soundcloud.com/blinded -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: partitioning question
Hi Mark, This is getting off topic, but I was referring to good old win xp when I said that this o s did not come with prefab repartitioning. Because I'm not a win7 user yet, I didn't know that win 7 now can do the same repartitioning trick as a mac. Learned something yet again. Thanks. On Aug 6, 2011, at 8:01 PM, M. Taylor wrote: Hello Paul, Just as an F Y I, One can also create and resize disc partitions in Windows 7 without losing any data. This feature is part of the Windows 7 OS. Mark On Aug 6, 2011, at 3:12 AM, Paul Erkens wrote: In fact, I used this feature a month ago and it works flawlessly. Mark Hi Chad, If it is disk utility in Lion that you are talking about, then here's what you can do. Indeed there is a disk resize control, but interacting with it won't let you adjust it. However, a bit over to the right is an edit text box, where you will find the current size of the partition, and even if it is the startup disk, macintosh hd in this case, you can adjust it, by simply typing a new number here. Of course, you cannot have a partition larger than your drive, but if you want a new partition, in place of free space on macintosh hd, then simply lower the number in this text box and hit apply. You will get a dialog, stating that none of your partitions will be erased. Rather, their sizes will only be adjusted. As a former windows user, I found this partitioning feature which is part of the operating system, rather innovative. HTH. Paul. On Aug 6, 2011, at 10:24 AM, chad baker wrote: hi quick question how do i resize a partition it says resize control i had sl on it want to resize it not sure how to do it also there's another one saying free space thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Conversations and Threads
Hi Teresa, Interesting, the difference you mention between threads and conversations. When mail organizes messages by either, what are the differences in criteria that mail relies on to do the job? Do you happen to know? I'm asking because it looked like you do. See message below. Paul. On Jul 27, 2011, at 3:31 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: That's the neat thing about conversations versus threads: they rely on more than the subject line, so that in most cases, you can change it, and still have messages within the conversation. Teresa On Jul 27, 2011, at 6:24 AM, Les Kriegler wrote: With the improved functioning of threads in Lion, it occurs to me that valid subject lines are going to be more important than ever now. BTW, I just changed the subject line to reflect what I wished to discuss. Les -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
mac fusion and windows audio editing and recording
Hi list, Has any of you experienced the following? 1. When in windows xp under fusion, if you use an audio recording app to record from the microphone, then the recording starts too late. I.e.: starting the recording and immediately counting from 1 to 5, the first 2 or 3 counts, all the length of approx. a second, are not in the recording. Using the same audio recorder, cool edit v1.2a in my case, on a regular old xp computer, does the same job very well, not leaving out any of the material that should have been recorded. 2. When listening to audio, stopping playback, and then cutting a section from the audio file, results in a section too early to be cut. Does any of you recognize this? Because this windows audio editor behaves normally under native xp and strangely in this respect under fusion, I suspect that fusion is the problem. If you think so too, it might be worth reporting this to VMware. So technically, I hope some of you recognizes this problem. Maybe you even already found a solution? Paul. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Google Chrome Web Browser
Hello Kevin, I'm currently running Chrome 13.0.782.109 beta on Lion. It has some flaws but is mostly accessible and doesn't suffer from the VO lag still present in Opera. I still do most of my surfing in the nightly builds of Webkit, but when I come across an issue on a particular page I appreciate now having Chrome as a useable alternative to help with troubleshooting. Sorry I don't have time to write a more detailed report at the moment, but I'll try later. I highly recommend giving the chrome 13 beta a whirl, and if you're like me and don't mind tweaking and troubleshooting, you might want to give the Canary version a try. It's their bleeding edge build and can be installed and run side-by-side without screwing up other settings. HTH, Bryan On Aug 6, 2011, at 1:38 PM, Kevin Chao wrote: Please, I would like to know if OS X Lion Voiceover users have tried Google Chrome web browser? If so, what are people's experience with it, especially the accessibility or inaccessibility of it. If there are features or aspects that are very accessible or inaccessible, please do share those details. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: sorting folders in favorites of mail, help needed pls
William, I don't know if you got the answer yet, but I got it in another thread here. The checkboxes next to the mailbox names in the lion mail favorites bar, will, when ticked, show that mailbox contents in the message list column. These checkboxes could better be described as being radio buttons, because that's what they react like. If you push one, the others deactivate. Using the favorites bar's checkboxes, you can easily view that mailbox. Of course, if the mailbox names were buttons instead, the same functionality would have been there. Paul. On Jul 26, 2011, at 3:19 PM, William Windels wrote: Hi all, I was finally able to put folders in the favorites of the mail in classic view. But, I don't understand the context there: what is the meaning of the checkboxes next to each folder-alias? How can I re-order the folders in the favorites? And finally, to remove pre-defined folders there with mouse click up/down like described here before, seems not to work. Any hints would be very appreciated. best regards, William -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Question about what I am typing not being spoken in edit boxes
Since I updated SL a few days ago, I have noticed that when I input text into an edit box of any kind: status on FB, a Tweet, a search box on Google, what I am typing is not being spoken. Also, if I interact with the text, it is not reading, so I cannot edit. I've resorted to writing in my e-mail, fixing mistakes if any, then copying into the boxes. Annoying. Anyone know what might be going on? This is the only time this happens. Christine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Garageband success again
Hello Paul, I am not sure why It won't play for you. You can try this link http://soundcloud.com/blinded This link will take you to my main page and you can find all my songs on this page. I just checked the page and it worked on this end. The song is still out there, so I am not sure why you are having the issues, sorry I can't help you more. hth ED -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Google Chrome Web Browser
What is webkit? :S On 8/6/11, Bryan Jones openses...@me.com wrote: Hello Kevin, I'm currently running Chrome 13.0.782.109 beta on Lion. It has some flaws but is mostly accessible and doesn't suffer from the VO lag still present in Opera. I still do most of my surfing in the nightly builds of Webkit, but when I come across an issue on a particular page I appreciate now having Chrome as a useable alternative to help with troubleshooting. Sorry I don't have time to write a more detailed report at the moment, but I'll try later. I highly recommend giving the chrome 13 beta a whirl, and if you're like me and don't mind tweaking and troubleshooting, you might want to give the Canary version a try. It's their bleeding edge build and can be installed and run side-by-side without screwing up other settings. HTH, Bryan On Aug 6, 2011, at 1:38 PM, Kevin Chao wrote: Please, I would like to know if OS X Lion Voiceover users have tried Google Chrome web browser? If so, what are people's experience with it, especially the accessibility or inaccessibility of it. If there are features or aspects that are very accessible or inaccessible, please do share those details. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RS Games Under Lion
Has anybody solved the problem of not being able to play Monopoly or Yatchzee in RS Games under Lion? Thx, Jeff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
VO speech rate in Lion mail
Hi all! Can someone please tell me what I need to do to speed up the speech rate in mail? Using the VO hot quick keys, ctrl+opt+cmd and the arrow keys speeds up speech for menus and ;the like, but does nothing for reading mail or typing rates. Thanks, Johnny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Getting to the top or bottom of a list
Hi Doug and all, I own a Mac Book Pro 13 laptop Does anyone know the commands for home and end on this little puppy? Thanks, Johnny On Aug 3, 2011, at 11:49 PM, Doug Lowlier wrote: Hi Paul, You must interact with the messages column then interact with the messages table. When you interact with the messages column you see two items, Sort by date and messages. Just interact with the messages table then go+shift+home will take you to the top and go+shift+end will take you to the bottom. Doug On 2011-08-04, at 1:08 AM, Paul Henrichsen wrote: How does one get to the top of a list of email messages? VO shift home puts me on the sort item. Thanks. Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Google Chrome Web Browser
Hello Oriol, Go to www.webkit.org for a thorough explanation and download links for Webkit. My quick and dirty definition is Webkit is the base upon which Safari, Chrome and several other browsers are built. When folks are having problems with Apple's Safari browser, it is often recommended they try running Webkit as it receives updates almost nightly where Safari's updates tend to be distributed by Apple less frequently. Webkit can be installed and run in parallel with Safari. HTH, Bryan On Aug 6, 2011, at 3:18 PM, Oriol Gómez wrote: What is webkit? :S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Getting to the top or bottom of a list
sure. fn+up and fn+down are your home and end keys. but, if you're trying to do this in a list as the subject line infers, then you need to actually do vo+shift+fn+up and down arrows. Up to go to the top, and down to go to the bottom. Be aware that if you're in a table, this'll only work once interacting with the table, plus, it also will move you to the far left most column of the top row, or the far most right column of the bottom row, so you might have to then either stop interacting and use just your plain arrow keys up and down to get feedback, or you'll have to possibly use vo+left and right arrows to move to the different columns on that table row. Same goes with list boxes, I think. Chris. - Original Message - From: John Chilelli beefca...@neo.rr.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2011 6:33 PM Subject: Re: Getting to the top or bottom of a list Hi Doug and all, I own a Mac Book Pro 13 laptop Does anyone know the commands for home and end on this little puppy? Thanks, Johnny On Aug 3, 2011, at 11:49 PM, Doug Lowlier wrote: Hi Paul, You must interact with the messages column then interact with the messages table. When you interact with the messages column you see two items, Sort by date and messages. Just interact with the messages table then go+shift+home will take you to the top and go+shift+end will take you to the bottom. Doug On 2011-08-04, at 1:08 AM, Paul Henrichsen wrote: How does one get to the top of a list of email messages? VO shift home puts me on the sort item. Thanks. Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Google Chrome Web Browser
Wait a second. Is Google Chrome accessible with Voiceover? I didn't think it was, is it? Chris. - Original Message - From: Bryan Jones openses...@me.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2011 6:53 PM Subject: Re: Google Chrome Web Browser Hello Oriol, Go to www.webkit.org for a thorough explanation and download links for Webkit. My quick and dirty definition is Webkit is the base upon which Safari, Chrome and several other browsers are built. When folks are having problems with Apple's Safari browser, it is often recommended they try running Webkit as it receives updates almost nightly where Safari's updates tend to be distributed by Apple less frequently. Webkit can be installed and run in parallel with Safari. HTH, Bryan On Aug 6, 2011, at 3:18 PM, Oriol Gómez wrote: What is webkit? :S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Where to use VO+Shift+J [Was, Re: What's a Menu Pop-up Link?]
Hello Teresa, I can try to answer your question regarding the use of VO+Shift+J to navigate pop-up items in Lion. First let me say that I'm still not sure I have this feature totally figured out myself, but hopefully this will make sense and will shed at least some light on the feature. To start with, here's the official one line definition from Apple's Lion VO quick start guide just in case you haven't seen it yet: begin quote Jump from the current location to any displayed input method or auto correction panel, and then jump back to the original location. end quote. Here's what I've found while trying to figure this feature out in more detail. I forget if you have n i-Device, but if you do you might recognize a small blip sound that is sometimes made in IOS when a popup list of spelling corrections is presented. Lion now has the ability to mimic that same behavior and the same sound when a misspelling is encountered. When you hear that sound, you can press VO+Shift+J and the VO cursor will move to the pop-up list of spelling choices where you can then use VO+left / right arrow to navigate the choices and VO will read them to you. While you are navigating that list, VO will speak the currently highlighted word, will tell you the number of possible choices in the list, and if you let the VO cursor sit on a highlighted word for a second it will spell the selection out loud. As an example, if I misspell the word the as ths I will hear the little blip sound and VO will announce six suggested corrections. If I then press VO+Shift+J VO will announce, the, suggested correction one of six, t-h-e. If I then proceed to VO-right arrow I will hear the same thing repeated for the other suggested words in the list: the, this, thus, these, and those. When I've highlighted the word I want to use, I can press Enter and it will replace the misspelled word. Now, here are a few things I still haven't figured out about this feature. 1. I'm not sure exactly what options need to be turned on or off for this to work in Lion, but I'm pretty sure the Correct Spelling Automatically feature needs to be turned on either globally or in the current application. For example, while I'm typing this message in Mail, the feature is working if I have Correct Spelling Automatically checked in Mail's Edit menu / Spelling and Grammar. However, if I uncheck that option the spelling popup and associated blip don't seem to appear. Note that I have correct spelling automatically unchecked in System Prefs / Language and Text / Text. 2. Sometimes the blip and popup will happen before I finish typing a word, as if it's acting as a sort of auto-complete feature. 3. Sometimes I can misspell a word and nothing happens, but if I left arrow back to the word I will then hear the blip and get the popup. It almost seems like I'm typing too fast for the spell checker to keep up, but I guarantee you I type slow enough for a turtle to easily keep up. grin. 4. I'm not sure if VO+Shift+J gives access to any other sort of popup. I haven't found any yet, but also haven't really looked around much. If you have any questions or thoughts about this, please email me off-list as I'm unsubscribing. HTH, Bryan On Aug 6, 2011, at 11:28 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote: Perhaps a related question: I notice that the keystroke VO-shift-J will go to pop-up item. I can't for the life of me find an example of a context in which to use this particular command. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: RS Games Under Lion
Hi. It's a known issue, and they're working on it, according to bulletin updates. Teresa On Aug 6, 2011, at 2:25 PM, Jeff Berwick wrote: Has anybody solved the problem of not being able to play Monopoly or Yatchzee in RS Games under Lion? Thx, Jeff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Google Chrome Web Browser
Bryan, does Chrome now handle tables? This was a real problem in the early versions and why I removed it from my system. ALl tables showed as being empty. On Aug 6, 2011, at 2:30 PM, Bryan Jones wrote: Hello Kevin, I'm currently running Chrome 13.0.782.109 beta on Lion. It has some flaws but is mostly accessible and doesn't suffer from the VO lag still present in Opera. I still do most of my surfing in the nightly builds of Webkit, but when I come across an issue on a particular page I appreciate now having Chrome as a useable alternative to help with troubleshooting. Sorry I don't have time to write a more detailed report at the moment, but I'll try later. I highly recommend giving the chrome 13 beta a whirl, and if you're like me and don't mind tweaking and troubleshooting, you might want to give the Canary version a try. It's their bleeding edge build and can be installed and run side-by-side without screwing up other settings. HTH, Bryan On Aug 6, 2011, at 1:38 PM, Kevin Chao wrote: Please, I would like to know if OS X Lion Voiceover users have tried Google Chrome web browser? If so, what are people's experience with it, especially the accessibility or inaccessibility of it. If there are features or aspects that are very accessible or inaccessible, please do share those details. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Conversations and Threads
I don't know specifics, but I do know that Mail uses more header criteria to group messages by conversation than by thread. I would imagine it takes the domain-related headers into account, but this is just a semi-educated guess. You can, for example, change the subject line in the middle of a thread, and it is still grouped into the original conversation. Teresa On Aug 6, 2011, at 11:14 AM, Paul Erkens wrote: Hi Teresa, Interesting, the difference you mention between threads and conversations. When mail organizes messages by either, what are the differences in criteria that mail relies on to do the job? Do you happen to know? I'm asking because it looked like you do. See message below. Paul. On Jul 27, 2011, at 3:31 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: That's the neat thing about conversations versus threads: they rely on more than the subject line, so that in most cases, you can change it, and still have messages within the conversation. Teresa On Jul 27, 2011, at 6:24 AM, Les Kriegler wrote: With the improved functioning of threads in Lion, it occurs to me that valid subject lines are going to be more important than ever now. BTW, I just changed the subject line to reflect what I wished to discuss. Les -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Making an Install Flash Drive for Lion: Tutorial Link
Hello everybody. Did we ever end up solving the VO dragging and dropping of the flash drive on the the destination field in disc utility? I'm trying to make a Lion drive right now and am having this issue. Thanks all. On 2011-07-24, at 6:00 PM, Dan wrote: Hello, I followed the instructions in Disc utility and as far as the drag and drop, I got as far as setting the drive to be drug, but it never completed the drag. Then once I got it to complete, but then it became the source destination. This whole drag and drop thing is really iffy at best. I have Lion on a DVD, but for what ever reason, I am totally unable to get the dmg file to properly be placed on the flash drive. I have never had any problem with dealing with image files and using disk utility. Does any one have any suggestions for doing the whole process of putting the install dmg file on the flash drive as a bootable drive, I don't mean the part about creating the partition and stuff, I mean the restore part, it just isn't working at all. So again, instructions for VO only would be appreciated. Thanks, Dan On Jul 24, 2011, at 1:38 PM, Courtney Currant wrote: Hi, I partitioned a 32 gb flash drive, then I went to the restore tab in disc utility. I chose the .dmg file as my source, but how can I choose my destination as the flash drive? Thanks, Courtney On Jul 24, 2011, at 5:53 AM, Jürgen Fleger wrote: Hi Teresa and list, Am 24.07.2011 um 08:03 schrieb Teresa Cochran: I saw a few questions on this list about this, so I looked it up. Here's a link. Note that it's geared more toward sighted users, but basically it involves taking the .dmg file and working with it in Disc Utility. http://www.redmondpie.com/how-to-make-your-own-os-x-lion-bootable-usb-flash-drive-tutorial/ Quite interesting. The only issue: There is no Lion file in my application folder. Do you have an idea what to do then? Thanks and all the best Jürgen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Copying files frone one drive to another.
Is there a way to copy from one external drive to another? Thanks. Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Copying files frone one drive to another.
open the first drive, interact with the area where your files area, press command C, then navigate to your destination folder in the finder and press command V hth, Cody On Aug 6, 2011, at 9:55 PM, Paul Henrichsen wrote: Is there a way to copy from one external drive to another? Thanks. Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Making an Install Flash Drive for Lion: Tutorial Link
Hi. Where might I find this podcast? I don't see it on the tek doctor site. On 2011-08-06, at 9:43 PM, Kristyn Leigh wrote: The answer is ctrl+mouse click. Robert Carter made a podcast explaining the whole process. His directions are very clear. I just burned the disk image to a DVD instead of a USB drive. Kristyn On Aug 6, 2011, at 9:36 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote: Hello everybody. Did we ever end up solving the VO dragging and dropping of the flash drive on the the destination field in disc utility? I'm trying to make a Lion drive right now and am having this issue. Thanks all. On 2011-07-24, at 6:00 PM, Dan wrote: Hello, I followed the instructions in Disc utility and as far as the drag and drop, I got as far as setting the drive to be drug, but it never completed the drag. Then once I got it to complete, but then it became the source destination. This whole drag and drop thing is really iffy at best. I have Lion on a DVD, but for what ever reason, I am totally unable to get the dmg file to properly be placed on the flash drive. I have never had any problem with dealing with image files and using disk utility. Does any one have any suggestions for doing the whole process of putting the install dmg file on the flash drive as a bootable drive, I don't mean the part about creating the partition and stuff, I mean the restore part, it just isn't working at all. So again, instructions for VO only would be appreciated. Thanks, Dan On Jul 24, 2011, at 1:38 PM, Courtney Currant wrote: Hi, I partitioned a 32 gb flash drive, then I went to the restore tab in disc utility. I chose the .dmg file as my source, but how can I choose my destination as the flash drive? Thanks, Courtney On Jul 24, 2011, at 5:53 AM, Jürgen Fleger wrote: Hi Teresa and list, Am 24.07.2011 um 08:03 schrieb Teresa Cochran: I saw a few questions on this list about this, so I looked it up. Here's a link. Note that it's geared more toward sighted users, but basically it involves taking the .dmg file and working with it in Disc Utility. http://www.redmondpie.com/how-to-make-your-own-os-x-lion-bootable-usb-flash-drive-tutorial/ Quite interesting. The only issue: There is no Lion file in my application folder. Do you have an idea what to do then? Thanks and all the best Jürgen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Making an Install Flash Drive for Lion: Tutorial Link
Here's how to get around the issue, click the restore tab, then in the list of disks, control click the flash drive and choose set as destination. You need to move the mouse to the item, and control click it, doing VO shift m won't work, which is probably a bug in disk utility. Once that's done, select the disk image for the source in the usual way On Aug 6, 2011, at 8:36 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote: Hello everybody. Did we ever end up solving the VO dragging and dropping of the flash drive on the the destination field in disc utility? I'm trying to make a Lion drive right now and am having this issue. Thanks all. On 2011-07-24, at 6:00 PM, Dan wrote: Hello, I followed the instructions in Disc utility and as far as the drag and drop, I got as far as setting the drive to be drug, but it never completed the drag. Then once I got it to complete, but then it became the source destination. This whole drag and drop thing is really iffy at best. I have Lion on a DVD, but for what ever reason, I am totally unable to get the dmg file to properly be placed on the flash drive. I have never had any problem with dealing with image files and using disk utility. Does any one have any suggestions for doing the whole process of putting the install dmg file on the flash drive as a bootable drive, I don't mean the part about creating the partition and stuff, I mean the restore part, it just isn't working at all. So again, instructions for VO only would be appreciated. Thanks, Dan On Jul 24, 2011, at 1:38 PM, Courtney Currant wrote: Hi, I partitioned a 32 gb flash drive, then I went to the restore tab in disc utility. I chose the .dmg file as my source, but how can I choose my destination as the flash drive? Thanks, Courtney On Jul 24, 2011, at 5:53 AM, Jürgen Fleger wrote: Hi Teresa and list, Am 24.07.2011 um 08:03 schrieb Teresa Cochran: I saw a few questions on this list about this, so I looked it up. Here's a link. Note that it's geared more toward sighted users, but basically it involves taking the .dmg file and working with it in Disc Utility. http://www.redmondpie.com/how-to-make-your-own-os-x-lion-bootable-usb-flash-drive-tutorial/ Quite interesting. The only issue: There is no Lion file in my application folder. Do you have an idea what to do then? Thanks and all the best Jürgen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Making an Install Flash Drive for Lion: Tutorial Link
Hi, How do you control click? Thanks, Courtney On Aug 6, 2011, at 10:16 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: Here's how to get around the issue, click the restore tab, then in the list of disks, control click the flash drive and choose set as destination. You need to move the mouse to the item, and control click it, doing VO shift m won't work, which is probably a bug in disk utility. Once that's done, select the disk image for the source in the usual way On Aug 6, 2011, at 8:36 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote: Hello everybody. Did we ever end up solving the VO dragging and dropping of the flash drive on the the destination field in disc utility? I'm trying to make a Lion drive right now and am having this issue. Thanks all. On 2011-07-24, at 6:00 PM, Dan wrote: Hello, I followed the instructions in Disc utility and as far as the drag and drop, I got as far as setting the drive to be drug, but it never completed the drag. Then once I got it to complete, but then it became the source destination. This whole drag and drop thing is really iffy at best. I have Lion on a DVD, but for what ever reason, I am totally unable to get the dmg file to properly be placed on the flash drive. I have never had any problem with dealing with image files and using disk utility. Does any one have any suggestions for doing the whole process of putting the install dmg file on the flash drive as a bootable drive, I don't mean the part about creating the partition and stuff, I mean the restore part, it just isn't working at all. So again, instructions for VO only would be appreciated. Thanks, Dan On Jul 24, 2011, at 1:38 PM, Courtney Currant wrote: Hi, I partitioned a 32 gb flash drive, then I went to the restore tab in disc utility. I chose the .dmg file as my source, but how can I choose my destination as the flash drive? Thanks, Courtney On Jul 24, 2011, at 5:53 AM, Jürgen Fleger wrote: Hi Teresa and list, Am 24.07.2011 um 08:03 schrieb Teresa Cochran: I saw a few questions on this list about this, so I looked it up. Here's a link. Note that it's geared more toward sighted users, but basically it involves taking the .dmg file and working with it in Disc Utility. http://www.redmondpie.com/how-to-make-your-own-os-x-lion-bootable-usb-flash-drive-tutorial/ Quite interesting. The only issue: There is no Lion file in my application folder. Do you have an idea what to do then? Thanks and all the best Jürgen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Moving mesage to other mailboxRe: Not another question from this guy!
Hi, Johnny We've all got questions at one time or other. Here's what I do with this: With the message you wanna move in focus, and not from within the message, press control option shift m for a list of options, up arrow to move, being sure to go past move again. On move to, press right arrow, up or down arrow thru the list of mailboxes, press enter on the one you want. Your original message should disappear from where it was. Next time you do this, you'll probably find that move to now has the name of the mailbox you previously used. Of course, there's a copy option as well. Hope this helps. John S On Aug 6, 2011, at 9:49 PM, John Chilelli wrote: Hi everyone, Sorry about all the questions about mail, but I'm banking on your kind understanding as I am a new Mac user and I need you guys to help me get my head around the Apple Lion mail way of doing things. I wish to save a message and place it in a newly created mailbox. I went to the message menu, down arrowed to the move sub-menu, downarrowed to the new mailbox and hit enter. Aback in the list view, I am still seeing the same post I wanted to move. i also tried hitting the spacebar on the new mailbox name, but still no go. What am I doing wrong? Thanks, Johnny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Resizing BootCamp Partition.
I know that sir, one uses windows unattended way of setup but because that wipes the hard disk hence comes the question of installing windows before lion then doing the rest. Original message: That guide was because Win Clone won't work under lion and that is a work around. if you've got leopard or snow leopard, you should be fine. but win clone will not make an unattended install for you. WC will only take a snapshot image and allow you to delta the bc partition and recreate it and then reimage the bc partition. outside of this, there aren't many other options….. On Aug 6, 2011, at 2:42 AM, Georges Zaynoun wrote: From where to get the winclone utility? Is it possible to whipe the entire hard disk, make a windows unattended install on the mac then clone with winclone, reinstall lion on the entire hd deleting all what is windows, create a bootcamp partition in the size we want and finally use winclone to get windows back on that partition? Why this very long and convoluted method? Simply because I don't want sighted help and want to use bootcamp not fusion. Original message: Hi, I recently covered this in an article I wrote and also posted to the mac visionaries list, and if you go here, you may find some use in this guide depending on what version of OSX you are using http://www.hurstaudioproductions.com/guides/bootcamping-with-vista-on-lion.htm HTH Cody - Original Message - From: Georges Zaynoun humorlessg...@samobile.net To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 9:38 AM Subject: Resizing BootCamp Partition. Hi! I wonder if it is possible after windows install to resize the bootcamp partition to be either smaller or larger, I know this should affect the macintosh hd partition consequently as well but this is what I am thinking of at the time, resizing after installation is done, thanks. -- Georges Zeinoun Timmerv. 6A, SE54163 SKÖVDE Tel: +46500201623, +46500482929 Mobile: +46707567315 E-mail: humorlessg...@samobile.net -- Georges Zeinoun Timmerv. 6A, SE54163 SKÖVDE Tel: +46500201623, +46500482929 Mobile: +46707567315 E-mail: humorlessg...@samobile.net Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- Georges Zeinoun Timmerv. 6A, SE54163 SKÖVDE Tel: +46500201623, +46500482929 Mobile: +46707567315 E-mail: humorlessg...@samobile.net Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
login trouble
Hi all, I just got lion installed. I have a small problem. When I start my puter the login windows comes up as it should. The problem is it will only let me choose one account using VO + shift+ down arrow to activate the list of accounts. I have four accounts and the only way can I get to the account that I want to login is to use the item choicer menu. Thank you for any help. louie louiem...@wavecable.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
growl?
Does anyone have the download info for growl? I tried to google it, but every page I go to says this product has been moved to a different developer. Thanks. Kliphton SR (twitterSkype) kliphton72 (Marriage Blog) http://cm-i-t-real-world.blogspot.com (Marriage group) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/committed-married-christians -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: login trouble
Hi, Use VO-right or left arrow instead of the up/down arrows and you should hear the other account choices. Later… On 2011-08-06, at 9:29 PM, louie wrote: Hi all, I just got lion installed. I have a small problem. When I start my puter the login windows comes up as it should. The problem is it will only let me choose one account using VO + shift+ down arrow to activate the list of accounts. I have four accounts and the only way can I get to the account that I want to login is to use the item choicer menu. Thank you for any help. louie louiem...@wavecable.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: login trouble
Tim me lad you did it again. Why in hell did they change the way you navigate the list? T On Aug 6, 2011, at 8:47 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote: Hi, Use VO-right or left arrow instead of the up/down arrows and you should hear the other account choices. Later… On 2011-08-06, at 9:29 PM, louie wrote: Hi all, I just got lion installed. I have a small problem. When I start my puter the login windows comes up as it should. The problem is it will only let me choose one account using VO + shift+ down arrow to activate the list of accounts. I have four accounts and the only way can I get to the account that I want to login is to use the item choicer menu. Thank you for any help. louie louiem...@wavecable.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. louie louiem...@wavecable.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: login trouble
Louie, I should have also mentioned that the Login Window behaves similarly to the iTunes 10.4 complaints. That is, you can enter the first letter or letters of the item you wish selected within the Login window and the item will be selected, VO just won't tell you. So, in this case, once the Login window appears, press l for Louie, then press return and the password field will come up. Enter your password for this account, press return and you will login just the same as usual. Later… On 2011-08-06, at 9:47 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote: Hi, Use VO-right or left arrow instead of the up/down arrows and you should hear the other account choices. Later… On 2011-08-06, at 9:29 PM, louie wrote: Hi all, I just got lion installed. I have a small problem. When I start my puter the login windows comes up as it should. The problem is it will only let me choose one account using VO + shift+ down arrow to activate the list of accounts. I have four accounts and the only way can I get to the account that I want to login is to use the item choicer menu. Thank you for any help. louie louiem...@wavecable.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: login trouble
Not sure Louie. It had me confused the first time or two as well. I hate it when things change. I just get used to doing things a certain way then they change on me. That's hard on us old guys. There's probably some rationale that Apple's developers had for this but they didn't tell me. Anyway, I've got used to it now so I'm OK. Later… On 2011-08-06, at 9:56 PM, louie wrote: Tim me lad you did it again. Why in hell did they change the way you navigate the list? T On Aug 6, 2011, at 8:47 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote: Hi, Use VO-right or left arrow instead of the up/down arrows and you should hear the other account choices. Later… On 2011-08-06, at 9:29 PM, louie wrote: Hi all, I just got lion installed. I have a small problem. When I start my puter the login windows comes up as it should. The problem is it will only let me choose one account using VO + shift+ down arrow to activate the list of accounts. I have four accounts and the only way can I get to the account that I want to login is to use the item choicer menu. Thank you for any help. louie louiem...@wavecable.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. louie louiem...@wavecable.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: login trouble
Tanks Tim. How old is old? On Aug 6, 2011, at 8:57 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote: Louie, I should have also mentioned that the Login Window behaves similarly to the iTunes 10.4 complaints. That is, you can enter the first letter or letters of the item you wish selected within the Login window and the item will be selected, VO just won't tell you. So, in this case, once the Login window appears, press l for Louie, then press return and the password field will come up. Enter your password for this account, press return and you will login just the same as usual. Later… On 2011-08-06, at 9:47 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote: Hi, Use VO-right or left arrow instead of the up/down arrows and you should hear the other account choices. Later… On 2011-08-06, at 9:29 PM, louie wrote: Hi all, I just got lion installed. I have a small problem. When I start my puter the login windows comes up as it should. The problem is it will only let me choose one account using VO + shift+ down arrow to activate the list of accounts. I have four accounts and the only way can I get to the account that I want to login is to use the item choicer menu. Thank you for any help. louie louiem...@wavecable.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. louie louiem...@wavecable.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Copying files frone one drive to another.
Any way to move files from one place to another? Not copy, but move. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Copying files frone one drive to another.
Finder can't natively do it, but there is a command in voiceover if you press command c on a file then go to where you want to move it press command option v to move it…try that should work On Aug 7, 2011, at 12:48 AM, Kevin Gibbs wrote: Any way to move files from one place to another? Not copy, but move. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Copying files frone one drive to another.
Use command option V and files will be moved. On Aug 6, 2011, at 9:48 PM, Kevin Gibbs wrote: Any way to move files from one place to another? Not copy, but move. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Copying files frone one drive to another.
It appears you can't copy files from a Mac to a passport NTFS drive. It must first be formatted to Mac extended journal. I was hoping to copy files to the NTFS drive so I could retrieve them on either Mac or windows. You can retrieve files from an NTFS drive, but it doesn't appear you can copy to it from a Mac. On Aug 6, 2011, at 6:57 PM, Cody wrote: open the first drive, interact with the area where your files area, press command C, then navigate to your destination folder in the finder and press command V hth, Cody On Aug 6, 2011, at 9:55 PM, Paul Henrichsen wrote: Is there a way to copy from one external drive to another? Thanks. Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
