iPod touch

[Andrew Lamanche]

Hi,

I was wondering whether those of you who use ipod touch would be happy to tell 
me how satisfied you are with it.  There's been a disturbing rumour on the list 
a while ago, that ipod touch might be discontinued.  Was it just a rumour?

Thanks in advance

Andrew

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Re: iCloud Documents and Data that are hidden

[Grant]

Hey Tim,

Thanks so much for your reply! I’ve found that while I can create an alias to 
the !/Library/Mobile Documents folder and view the top level of directories in 
there, I can’t open any of those directories. I even tried creating aliases to 
those subdirectories without success. And I can’t delete any of the top level 
directories either—the Finder returns an unknown error, and when I use the rm 
-R command in the Terminal I get no error message but the folder is not deleted.

Looks like you really can’t mess around with that data—but there are a ton of 
app containers in there for apps I’ve maybe only used once or twice, years ago. 
It would be great if there was a solution for this, but if not, I’ll move on 
*smile*.

Cheers,

Grant

> On Monday October 24, 2016, at 8:38:51 AM, Tim Kilburn  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I suspect that they're hidden so that we don't mess things up by accident.  
> It is possible to see these files via the Terminal as well as creating an 
> alias for the Mobile Documents folder on your Desktop.  Be careful though 
> when it comes to deleting as this is a shared space.  That is, iCloud Drive 
> is shared between all your Macs and iDevices.  Therefore, if you remove it 
> from the iCloud Drive on your Mac, it is also removing access to it for any 
> iDevices that depend on that data.
> 
> In the future, iCloud Drive may become more granular, similar to Google 
> Drive, where you can configure what's placed locally vs what's left in the 
> Cloud, but it's not there yet.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Oct 23, 2016, at 20:05, Grant  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I’m wondering if anyone knows a way to see (and possibly delete) “hidden” 
> iCloud data that doesn’t show up in the user interface. It would be great if 
> one had the option of “starting over” so to speak.
> 
> For example, I think iCloud stores containers for every app I’ve ever 
> installed, some of which aren’t visible in iCloud’s “manage storage” settings 
> or in iCloud Drive on a Mac or PC. However, I can see traces of them here and 
> there.
> 
> To give just one example, if I do a spotlight search on my Mac, I can see a 
> folder under ~/Library/Mobile Documents/SE69VQ73SR~com~mipsoft~blindsquare. 
> Presumably this is the container for the BlindSquare iOS app which would have 
> my database of favourite points of interest and other settings. And, 
> presumably the reason this is showing up on my Mac is because the Mac stores 
> everything in my iCloud account.
> 
> Now, I definitely wouldn’t want to erase that particular container and I’m 
> glad it’s there, but the point is I’d love to be able to view all the data 
> stored in my account and have the option of deleting some of it. I’m not a 
> developer, but I think developers have the option of hiding their ubiquity 
> containers if they so choose.
> 
> What do you think?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Grant
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New IOS update?

[Stacey Robinson]

Is there a new update for Ios10?
My husband heard that they have put one out that requires some kind of six 
digit code.
We are both using iPhone six’s.

Peace,  
Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk.

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Re: No more hardware escape key on upcoming MacBooks

[Brandt Steenkamp]

Well, good luck to those who decided to go with the new MB pro.

I know many doubt, but look back to the iPhone 3gs, things worked out fine in 
the end. Apple has a history of pushing shocking ideas to the for, and look 
where we are today.

I might not be one of those buying the new Mac, but I would, if I had the need 
and the money.

Warm regards,

Brandt Steenkamp

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> On 26 Oct 2016, at 2:45 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> I just saw an article talking about how you can re-map and existing key, such 
> as control, caps lock, command or option, to take the place of the escape key 
> which is going away on the new MacBooks to be revealed on Thursday. There 
> will still be that functionality on the new magic track bar or whatever 
> they're calling it. But if you are a person who wants to have a hardware 
> escape key, you will have to remap an existing key to get it. For those of 
> you who use caps lock for voiceover, good luck. I have no idea how that Mike 
> coexist with this new functionality. Or you're stuck with the new magic track 
> bar and it's soft functionality. Could be interesting.
> Mary
> 
> 
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No more hardware escape key on upcoming MacBooks

[Mary Otten]

I just saw an article talking about how you can re-map and existing key, such 
as control, caps lock, command or option, to take the place of the escape key 
which is going away on the new MacBooks to be revealed on Thursday. There will 
still be that functionality on the new magic track bar or whatever they're 
calling it. But if you are a person who wants to have a hardware escape key, 
you will have to remap an existing key to get it. For those of you who use caps 
lock for voiceover, good luck. I have no idea how that Mike coexist with this 
new functionality. Or you're stuck with the new magic track bar and it's soft 
functionality. Could be interesting.
Mary


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VMFusion question, any way to create more than 10 network adapters per VM?

[Scott Granados]

Hi, have a question about virtual machines that maybe some of the more advanced 
users have run in to.

I’m trying to run a bunch of virtual routers.  Is it possible to increase the 
number of virtual network adapters per instance?  It seems to top out at 10.  
Also, in VMfusion 8.1 professional I see the list of networks that each adapter 
can join but the custom option no longer seems to work, it’s listed but I can’t 
select it.  Are the options now just bridged, auto detect and host?

Any pointers would be most appreciated.

Thank you

Scott

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Re: router setup

[jeff `greene]

Hi Scott and all, thanks for the router suggestions! I didn't even
think about a web interface. I've heard really good things about the
Netgear Nighthawk series, maybe I'll give one a try!
Jeff


On 10/25/16, Scott Granados  wrote:
> You might have smaller Wireless players or local players, I wouldn’t bother
> with DSL either, that’s last century’s technology.
>
>> On Oct 25, 2016, at 5:47 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>>
>>   Its been stable for some time, my email client used to complain quite
>> often. Then recently, it appeared my Charter email account was not
>> behaving reliably. Will have to see how this merger goes.
>>
>>   Interesting that my iCloud and gMail accounts worked fine.
>>
>>   I have no other options here except perhaps DSL and I am not going to
>> bother with that since I turned off landline a long time ago.
>>
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>  Without H2O there is no life!
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>
>> On 10/25/2016 2:39 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> I was a charter cable member for all of one month because the service was
>>> substandard.  I had the 125 meg down 25 up and the network seemed
>>> congested to me.  Maybe with the merger things will improve.
>>>
 On Oct 25, 2016, at 5:37 PM, E.T.  wrote:

  Charter now Spectrum. Standard Internet, think the slowest which still
 to me is overpriced.

 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 Without H2O there is no life!
 ancient.ali...@icloud.com

 On 10/25/2016 2:35 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
> What type of service do you have off hand?
>
> Which provider?
>
>> On Oct 25, 2016, at 5:34 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>>
>> Ok yes makes sense. But then if I run a test from my provider it might
>> look good while its actually on the low end of the speed dial so I may
>> be a skeptic here. I think I will leave myself in the dark, what I do
>> not know cannot hurt me.
>>
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> Without H2O there is no life!
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>
>> On 10/25/2016 2:29 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> You know things like that are hit and miss.  You’re testing the whole
>>> network between you and the speed test server rather than the speed
>>> of any specific link so you might get some idea but it depends on
>>> network conditions and any number of things.
>>>
>>> If you used Comcast for example you might want to use their speed
>>> test which may be a better indicator but it may give you a rough
>>> idea.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
 On Oct 25, 2016, at 5:27 PM, E.T. 
 wrote:

 Scott,
 Is Speedtest.com a reliable way to measure performance? I am happy
 with the Netgear router but am curious to know if this site would
 provide meaningful data.

 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 Without H2O there is no life!
 ancient.ali...@icloud.com

 On 10/25/2016 2:21 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
> Most routers are very doable from the web interfaces.
>
> The ones I’d suggest are the Netgear Nighthawk 7800 series or the
> DLink DIR-897/lr or Asus has an 88U model that is highly rated
> although I have not tried it’s web interface personally.
>
> Thanks
> Scott
>
>
>> On Oct 25, 2016, at 4:22 PM, E.T. 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I bought a Netgear Nighthawk AC1900 earlier this year. Don't need
>> software. Its quite doable from the web interface.
>>
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> Without H2O there is no life!
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>
>> On 10/25/2016 1:14 PM, jeff `greene wrote:
>>> Hi, Sorry in advance for the long post! My friend brought over
>>> his
>>> Linksus 5400 802.11AC router and I was blown away with the
>>> difference
>>> between his router and mine on my internet connection. For a long
>>> time
>>> he has been saying my Apple Airport Extreme is slow. So, I'm
>>> thinking
>>> about replacing my Airport Extreme. I don't want a Linksus but
>>> am
>>> considering Asus and Netgear. Does anybody on the list know
>>> which
>>> router software is accessible with voiceover? If not, does
>>> anybody
>>> know of one that's usable with Jaws or SA under windows?
>>> Thanks Jeff
>>>
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Re: router setup

[Scott Granados]

You might have smaller Wireless players or local players, I wouldn’t bother 
with DSL either, that’s last century’s technology.

> On Oct 25, 2016, at 5:47 PM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   Its been stable for some time, my email client used to complain quite 
> often. Then recently, it appeared my Charter email account was not behaving 
> reliably. Will have to see how this merger goes.
> 
>   Interesting that my iCloud and gMail accounts worked fine.
> 
>   I have no other options here except perhaps DSL and I am not going to 
> bother with that since I turned off landline a long time ago.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>  Without H2O there is no life!
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 10/25/2016 2:39 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> I was a charter cable member for all of one month because the service was 
>> substandard.  I had the 125 meg down 25 up and the network seemed congested 
>> to me.  Maybe with the merger things will improve.
>> 
>>> On Oct 25, 2016, at 5:37 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>>> 
>>>  Charter now Spectrum. Standard Internet, think the slowest which still to 
>>> me is overpriced.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> Without H2O there is no life!
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> 
>>> On 10/25/2016 2:35 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
 What type of service do you have off hand?
 
 Which provider?
 
> On Oct 25, 2016, at 5:34 PM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
> Ok yes makes sense. But then if I run a test from my provider it might 
> look good while its actually on the low end of the speed dial so I may be 
> a skeptic here. I think I will leave myself in the dark, what I do not 
> know cannot hurt me.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> Without H2O there is no life!
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 10/25/2016 2:29 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> You know things like that are hit and miss.  You’re testing the whole 
>> network between you and the speed test server rather than the speed of 
>> any specific link so you might get some idea but it depends on network 
>> conditions and any number of things.
>> 
>> If you used Comcast for example you might want to use their speed test 
>> which may be a better indicator but it may give you a rough idea.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>>> On Oct 25, 2016, at 5:27 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Scott,
>>> Is Speedtest.com a reliable way to measure performance? I am happy with 
>>> the Netgear router but am curious to know if this site would provide 
>>> meaningful data.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> Without H2O there is no life!
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> 
>>> On 10/25/2016 2:21 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
 Most routers are very doable from the web interfaces.
 
 The ones I’d suggest are the Netgear Nighthawk 7800 series or the 
 DLink DIR-897/lr or Asus has an 88U model that is highly rated 
 although I have not tried it’s web interface personally.
 
 Thanks
 Scott
 
 
> On Oct 25, 2016, at 4:22 PM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
> I bought a Netgear Nighthawk AC1900 earlier this year. Don't need 
> software. Its quite doable from the web interface.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> Without H2O there is no life!
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 10/25/2016 1:14 PM, jeff `greene wrote:
>> Hi, Sorry in advance for the long post! My friend brought over his
>> Linksus 5400 802.11AC router and I was blown away with the difference
>> between his router and mine on my internet connection. For a long 
>> time
>> he has been saying my Apple Airport Extreme is slow. So, I'm thinking
>> about replacing my Airport Extreme. I don't want a Linksus but am
>> considering Asus and Netgear. Does anybody on the list know which
>> router software is accessible with voiceover? If not, does anybody
>> know of one that's usable with Jaws or SA under windows?
>> Thanks Jeff
>> 
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Re: router setup

[E.T.]

   Its been stable for some time, my email client used to complain 
quite often. Then recently, it appeared my Charter email account was not 
behaving reliably. Will have to see how this merger goes.


   Interesting that my iCloud and gMail accounts worked fine.

   I have no other options here except perhaps DSL and I am not going 
to bother with that since I turned off landline a long time ago.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
  Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 10/25/2016 2:39 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

I was a charter cable member for all of one month because the service was 
substandard.  I had the 125 meg down 25 up and the network seemed congested to 
me.  Maybe with the merger things will improve.


On Oct 25, 2016, at 5:37 PM, E.T.  wrote:

  Charter now Spectrum. Standard Internet, think the slowest which still to me 
is overpriced.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 10/25/2016 2:35 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

What type of service do you have off hand?

Which provider?


On Oct 25, 2016, at 5:34 PM, E.T.  wrote:

 Ok yes makes sense. But then if I run a test from my provider it might look 
good while its actually on the low end of the speed dial so I may be a skeptic 
here. I think I will leave myself in the dark, what I do not know cannot hurt 
me.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 10/25/2016 2:29 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

You know things like that are hit and miss.  You’re testing the whole network 
between you and the speed test server rather than the speed of any specific 
link so you might get some idea but it depends on network conditions and any 
number of things.

If you used Comcast for example you might want to use their speed test which 
may be a better indicator but it may give you a rough idea.

Thanks


On Oct 25, 2016, at 5:27 PM, E.T.  wrote:

Scott,
Is Speedtest.com a reliable way to measure performance? I am happy with the 
Netgear router but am curious to know if this site would provide meaningful 
data.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 10/25/2016 2:21 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

Most routers are very doable from the web interfaces.

The ones I’d suggest are the Netgear Nighthawk 7800 series or the DLink 
DIR-897/lr or Asus has an 88U model that is highly rated although I have not 
tried it’s web interface personally.

Thanks
Scott



On Oct 25, 2016, at 4:22 PM, E.T.  wrote:

I bought a Netgear Nighthawk AC1900 earlier this year. Don't need software. Its 
quite doable from the web interface.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 10/25/2016 1:14 PM, jeff `greene wrote:

Hi, Sorry in advance for the long post! My friend brought over his
Linksus 5400 802.11AC router and I was blown away with the difference
between his router and mine on my internet connection. For a long time
he has been saying my Apple Airport Extreme is slow. So, I'm thinking
about replacing my Airport Extreme. I don't want a Linksus but am
considering Asus and Netgear. Does anybody on the list know which
router software is accessible with voiceover? If not, does anybody
know of one that's usable with Jaws or SA under windows?
Thanks Jeff



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Re: router setup

[Scott Granados]

I was a charter cable member for all of one month because the service was 
substandard.  I had the 125 meg down 25 up and the network seemed congested to 
me.  Maybe with the merger things will improve.

> On Oct 25, 2016, at 5:37 PM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   Charter now Spectrum. Standard Internet, think the slowest which still to 
> me is overpriced.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>  Without H2O there is no life!
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 10/25/2016 2:35 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> What type of service do you have off hand?
>> 
>> Which provider?
>> 
>>> On Oct 25, 2016, at 5:34 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>>> 
>>>  Ok yes makes sense. But then if I run a test from my provider it might 
>>> look good while its actually on the low end of the speed dial so I may be a 
>>> skeptic here. I think I will leave myself in the dark, what I do not know 
>>> cannot hurt me.
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> On 10/25/2016 2:29 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
 You know things like that are hit and miss.  You’re testing the whole 
 network between you and the speed test server rather than the speed of any 
 specific link so you might get some idea but it depends on network 
 conditions and any number of things.
 
 If you used Comcast for example you might want to use their speed test 
 which may be a better indicator but it may give you a rough idea.
 
 Thanks
 
> On Oct 25, 2016, at 5:27 PM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
> Scott,
> Is Speedtest.com a reliable way to measure performance? I am happy with 
> the Netgear router but am curious to know if this site would provide 
> meaningful data.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> Without H2O there is no life!
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 10/25/2016 2:21 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> Most routers are very doable from the web interfaces.
>> 
>> The ones I’d suggest are the Netgear Nighthawk 7800 series or the DLink 
>> DIR-897/lr or Asus has an 88U model that is highly rated although I have 
>> not tried it’s web interface personally.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Scott
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 25, 2016, at 4:22 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I bought a Netgear Nighthawk AC1900 earlier this year. Don't need 
>>> software. Its quite doable from the web interface.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> Without H2O there is no life!
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> 
>>> On 10/25/2016 1:14 PM, jeff `greene wrote:
 Hi, Sorry in advance for the long post! My friend brought over his
 Linksus 5400 802.11AC router and I was blown away with the difference
 between his router and mine on my internet connection. For a long time
 he has been saying my Apple Airport Extreme is slow. So, I'm thinking
 about replacing my Airport Extreme. I don't want a Linksus but am
 considering Asus and Netgear. Does anybody on the list know which
 router software is accessible with voiceover? If not, does anybody
 know of one that's usable with Jaws or SA under windows?
 Thanks Jeff
 
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Re: router setup

[E.T.]

   Charter now Spectrum. Standard Internet, think the slowest which 
still to me is overpriced.


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On 10/25/2016 2:35 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

What type of service do you have off hand?

Which provider?


On Oct 25, 2016, at 5:34 PM, E.T.  wrote:

  Ok yes makes sense. But then if I run a test from my provider it might look 
good while its actually on the low end of the speed dial so I may be a skeptic 
here. I think I will leave myself in the dark, what I do not know cannot hurt 
me.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 10/25/2016 2:29 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

You know things like that are hit and miss.  You’re testing the whole network 
between you and the speed test server rather than the speed of any specific 
link so you might get some idea but it depends on network conditions and any 
number of things.

If you used Comcast for example you might want to use their speed test which 
may be a better indicator but it may give you a rough idea.

Thanks


On Oct 25, 2016, at 5:27 PM, E.T.  wrote:

Scott,
 Is Speedtest.com a reliable way to measure performance? I am happy with the 
Netgear router but am curious to know if this site would provide meaningful 
data.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 10/25/2016 2:21 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

Most routers are very doable from the web interfaces.

The ones I’d suggest are the Netgear Nighthawk 7800 series or the DLink 
DIR-897/lr or Asus has an 88U model that is highly rated although I have not 
tried it’s web interface personally.

Thanks
Scott



On Oct 25, 2016, at 4:22 PM, E.T.  wrote:

I bought a Netgear Nighthawk AC1900 earlier this year. Don't need software. Its 
quite doable from the web interface.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 10/25/2016 1:14 PM, jeff `greene wrote:

Hi, Sorry in advance for the long post! My friend brought over his
Linksus 5400 802.11AC router and I was blown away with the difference
between his router and mine on my internet connection. For a long time
he has been saying my Apple Airport Extreme is slow. So, I'm thinking
about replacing my Airport Extreme. I don't want a Linksus but am
considering Asus and Netgear. Does anybody on the list know which
router software is accessible with voiceover? If not, does anybody
know of one that's usable with Jaws or SA under windows?
Thanks Jeff



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Re: router setup

[Scott Granados]

What type of service do you have off hand?

Which provider?

> On Oct 25, 2016, at 5:34 PM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   Ok yes makes sense. But then if I run a test from my provider it might look 
> good while its actually on the low end of the speed dial so I may be a 
> skeptic here. I think I will leave myself in the dark, what I do not know 
> cannot hurt me.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>  Without H2O there is no life!
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 10/25/2016 2:29 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> You know things like that are hit and miss.  You’re testing the whole 
>> network between you and the speed test server rather than the speed of any 
>> specific link so you might get some idea but it depends on network 
>> conditions and any number of things.
>> 
>> If you used Comcast for example you might want to use their speed test which 
>> may be a better indicator but it may give you a rough idea.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>>> On Oct 25, 2016, at 5:27 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Scott,
>>>  Is Speedtest.com a reliable way to measure performance? I am happy with 
>>> the Netgear router but am curious to know if this site would provide 
>>> meaningful data.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> Without H2O there is no life!
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> 
>>> On 10/25/2016 2:21 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
 Most routers are very doable from the web interfaces.
 
 The ones I’d suggest are the Netgear Nighthawk 7800 series or the DLink 
 DIR-897/lr or Asus has an 88U model that is highly rated although I have 
 not tried it’s web interface personally.
 
 Thanks
 Scott
 
 
> On Oct 25, 2016, at 4:22 PM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
> I bought a Netgear Nighthawk AC1900 earlier this year. Don't need 
> software. Its quite doable from the web interface.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> Without H2O there is no life!
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 10/25/2016 1:14 PM, jeff `greene wrote:
>> Hi, Sorry in advance for the long post! My friend brought over his
>> Linksus 5400 802.11AC router and I was blown away with the difference
>> between his router and mine on my internet connection. For a long time
>> he has been saying my Apple Airport Extreme is slow. So, I'm thinking
>> about replacing my Airport Extreme. I don't want a Linksus but am
>> considering Asus and Netgear. Does anybody on the list know which
>> router software is accessible with voiceover? If not, does anybody
>> know of one that's usable with Jaws or SA under windows?
>> Thanks Jeff
>> 
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Re: router setup

[E.T.]

   Ok yes makes sense. But then if I run a test from my provider it 
might look good while its actually on the low end of the speed dial so I 
may be a skeptic here. I think I will leave myself in the dark, what I 
do not know cannot hurt me.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
  Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 10/25/2016 2:29 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

You know things like that are hit and miss.  You’re testing the whole network 
between you and the speed test server rather than the speed of any specific 
link so you might get some idea but it depends on network conditions and any 
number of things.

If you used Comcast for example you might want to use their speed test which 
may be a better indicator but it may give you a rough idea.

Thanks


On Oct 25, 2016, at 5:27 PM, E.T.  wrote:

Scott,
  Is Speedtest.com a reliable way to measure performance? I am happy with the 
Netgear router but am curious to know if this site would provide meaningful 
data.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 10/25/2016 2:21 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

Most routers are very doable from the web interfaces.

The ones I’d suggest are the Netgear Nighthawk 7800 series or the DLink 
DIR-897/lr or Asus has an 88U model that is highly rated although I have not 
tried it’s web interface personally.

Thanks
Scott



On Oct 25, 2016, at 4:22 PM, E.T.  wrote:

 I bought a Netgear Nighthawk AC1900 earlier this year. Don't need software. 
Its quite doable from the web interface.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 10/25/2016 1:14 PM, jeff `greene wrote:

Hi, Sorry in advance for the long post! My friend brought over his
Linksus 5400 802.11AC router and I was blown away with the difference
between his router and mine on my internet connection. For a long time
he has been saying my Apple Airport Extreme is slow. So, I'm thinking
about replacing my Airport Extreme. I don't want a Linksus but am
considering Asus and Netgear. Does anybody on the list know which
router software is accessible with voiceover? If not, does anybody
know of one that's usable with Jaws or SA under windows?
Thanks Jeff



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Re: router setup

[Scott Granados]

You know things like that are hit and miss.  You’re testing the whole network 
between you and the speed test server rather than the speed of any specific 
link so you might get some idea but it depends on network conditions and any 
number of things.

If you used Comcast for example you might want to use their speed test which 
may be a better indicator but it may give you a rough idea.

Thanks

> On Oct 25, 2016, at 5:27 PM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
> Scott,
>   Is Speedtest.com a reliable way to measure performance? I am happy with the 
> Netgear router but am curious to know if this site would provide meaningful 
> data.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>  Without H2O there is no life!
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 10/25/2016 2:21 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> Most routers are very doable from the web interfaces.
>> 
>> The ones I’d suggest are the Netgear Nighthawk 7800 series or the DLink 
>> DIR-897/lr or Asus has an 88U model that is highly rated although I have not 
>> tried it’s web interface personally.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Scott
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 25, 2016, at 4:22 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>>> 
>>>  I bought a Netgear Nighthawk AC1900 earlier this year. Don't need 
>>> software. Its quite doable from the web interface.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> Without H2O there is no life!
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> 
>>> On 10/25/2016 1:14 PM, jeff `greene wrote:
 Hi, Sorry in advance for the long post! My friend brought over his
 Linksus 5400 802.11AC router and I was blown away with the difference
 between his router and mine on my internet connection. For a long time
 he has been saying my Apple Airport Extreme is slow. So, I'm thinking
 about replacing my Airport Extreme. I don't want a Linksus but am
 considering Asus and Netgear. Does anybody on the list know which
 router software is accessible with voiceover? If not, does anybody
 know of one that's usable with Jaws or SA under windows?
 Thanks Jeff
 
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Re: router setup

[E.T.]

Scott,
   Is Speedtest.com a reliable way to measure performance? I am happy 
with the Netgear router but am curious to know if this site would 
provide meaningful data.


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On 10/25/2016 2:21 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

Most routers are very doable from the web interfaces.

The ones I’d suggest are the Netgear Nighthawk 7800 series or the DLink 
DIR-897/lr or Asus has an 88U model that is highly rated although I have not 
tried it’s web interface personally.

Thanks
Scott



On Oct 25, 2016, at 4:22 PM, E.T.  wrote:

  I bought a Netgear Nighthawk AC1900 earlier this year. Don't need software. 
Its quite doable from the web interface.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 Without H2O there is no life!
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On 10/25/2016 1:14 PM, jeff `greene wrote:

Hi, Sorry in advance for the long post! My friend brought over his
Linksus 5400 802.11AC router and I was blown away with the difference
between his router and mine on my internet connection. For a long time
he has been saying my Apple Airport Extreme is slow. So, I'm thinking
about replacing my Airport Extreme. I don't want a Linksus but am
considering Asus and Netgear. Does anybody on the list know which
router software is accessible with voiceover? If not, does anybody
know of one that's usable with Jaws or SA under windows?
Thanks Jeff



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Re: Anything new, good or bad, related to voiceover in the new update for Sierra

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Hi Sean,

I was going to ask that very question, why am I getting this feature you are 
talking about which is happening on my 2014 MacMini.  However on my late 2012 
IMac, this feature is not happening.  Both machines have System Valt enabled.  
Just started this yesterday after updating.

Kawal.
> On 25 Oct 2016, at 07:15, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary. I'm not experiencing any major Voiceover issues here. Although when 
> my screen goes to sleep Voiceover says Authentication, Login Panel, User, 
> Authentication has new window. This has never happened in previous versions 
> of Sierra but has started with this beta cycle. I can't figure out why it 
> does this. I don't have a password and I don't have it set to require a 
> password after wake. I don't have a screensaver either but it's as if it's 
> treating whatever this is as a screensaver. Maybe it has something to do with 
> the Unlock With Watch feature but I doubt it because my Mac is too old for 
> that feature.
> 
> Shawn
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>> On Oct 24, 2016, at 11:12 PM, Michael Marshall  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> The serie bug where it does not read your message if you ask to post to 
>> Twitter is still there.
>>> On 25 Oct. 2016, at 9:48 am, Scott Granados  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I haven’t noticed anything sideways with the new release.  I am noticing 
>>> for example the unlock with watch feature is far more reliable and some 
>>> small things like that.  Also very stable but nothing pro or conn 
>>> accessibility wise.  I don’t recall the post off hand to comment on the 
>>> specific issue.
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
 On Oct 24, 2016, at 6:40 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
 
 On one of these two lists, and I don't remember which one, there was a 
 cryptic comment not too long ago from someone saying that they were 
 unhappy with something about the Sierra beta, which is now the official 
 Sierra update. Because they were running a beta, they didn't want to 
 comment on what the thing was that they didn't like that had to do with 
 excess ability. I haven't installed the update yet, and I'm curious what 
 people have noticed, good or bad who have installed the latest update.
 
 
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Re: router setup

[Scott Granados]

Most routers are very doable from the web interfaces.

The ones I’d suggest are the Netgear Nighthawk 7800 series or the DLink 
DIR-897/lr or Asus has an 88U model that is highly rated although I have not 
tried it’s web interface personally.

Thanks
Scott
 

> On Oct 25, 2016, at 4:22 PM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   I bought a Netgear Nighthawk AC1900 earlier this year. Don't need software. 
> Its quite doable from the web interface.
> 
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> On 10/25/2016 1:14 PM, jeff `greene wrote:
>> Hi, Sorry in advance for the long post! My friend brought over his
>> Linksus 5400 802.11AC router and I was blown away with the difference
>> between his router and mine on my internet connection. For a long time
>> he has been saying my Apple Airport Extreme is slow. So, I'm thinking
>> about replacing my Airport Extreme. I don't want a Linksus but am
>> considering Asus and Netgear. Does anybody on the list know which
>> router software is accessible with voiceover? If not, does anybody
>> know of one that's usable with Jaws or SA under windows?
>> Thanks Jeff
>> 
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Re: router setup

[E.T.]

   I bought a Netgear Nighthawk AC1900 earlier this year. Don't need 
software. Its quite doable from the web interface.


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On 10/25/2016 1:14 PM, jeff `greene wrote:

Hi, Sorry in advance for the long post! My friend brought over his
Linksus 5400 802.11AC router and I was blown away with the difference
between his router and mine on my internet connection. For a long time
he has been saying my Apple Airport Extreme is slow. So, I'm thinking
about replacing my Airport Extreme. I don't want a Linksus but am
considering Asus and Netgear. Does anybody on the list know which
router software is accessible with voiceover? If not, does anybody
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router setup

[jeff `greene]

Hi, Sorry in advance for the long post! My friend brought over his
Linksus 5400 802.11AC router and I was blown away with the difference
between his router and mine on my internet connection. For a long time
he has been saying my Apple Airport Extreme is slow. So, I'm thinking
about replacing my Airport Extreme. I don't want a Linksus but am
considering Asus and Netgear. Does anybody on the list know which
router software is accessible with voiceover? If not, does anybody
know of one that's usable with Jaws or SA under windows?
Thanks Jeff

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Re: Saving a document under many folders, and input short cut

[Ramy Moustafa]

Andrew and all:

Thanks finally I did it, the only issue that you didn't mention and
makes me confused, is that I must checked the short cut 1st before
making this, but anyway, it's working\
THanks again


On 10/25/16, christopher hallsworth  wrote:
> I have too, but just so you know, you hold, not press, command-space.
>> On 25 Oct 2016, at 13:09, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
>>
>> Regarding Siri activation shortcut keys, I changed it in system preference
>> / siri to fn+spacebar as it clashes with command+spacebar as I use it for
>> input change.
>>
>>
>>> On 25 Oct 2016, at 12:10, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
>>>
>>> First can be one with sidebar. In the finder drag The folder of interest
>>> to the sidebar, there is a keyboard shortcut for this but I don't
>>> remember it. Then, when saving documents you should be able to expand out
>>> a mini find your view to select things including the items on the
>>> sidebar.
>>>
>>> We are second issue, you need to go into system settings keyboard
>>> shortcuts and change the keyboard shortcut for spotlight to something
>>> else, then command space should toggle between keyboard input modes. This
>>> might A bit different in Sierra, since command space hell down on some
>>> cases bring up Siri, with the above worked up to El Capitan.
>>> On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 6:20 AM Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
>>> I had some difficulty with it too initially.
>>>
>>> Make sure you interact with the second column in the second table.  The
>>> first column just tells you whether the checkbox is checked or not.  The
>>> second column tells you what the shortcut currently is.  You need to
>>> interact with the cell first and move once to the right to land on the
>>> textedit field with the shortcut currently in place.  Voiceover should
>>> say "selected" and then you press the new shortcut key combination.  Move
>>> away and back to the same field to confirm the new shortcut.
>>>
>>> Let me know if you succeed.
>>>
>>> Andrew
>>> > On 25 Oct 2016, at 09:52, Ramy Moustafa 
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Hello
>>> >> On:
>>> > Ok  I know from where can i choose a short cut, but i can not change
>>> > the short cut for the input source, i followed the procedures  but
>>> > nothing.  so, can anyone tell em, how can i change the short cut for
>>> > this/
>>> >> Oct 25, 2016, at 7:44 AM, Anne Robertson 
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Hello,
>>> >>
>>> >> The command to change your input source can be changed in System
>>> >> Preferences, Keyboard, Shortcuts. Select Input Sources in the first
>>> >> table, then go to the next table and change the shortcuts.
>>> >>
>>> >> Cheers,
>>> >>
>>> >> Anne
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>> On 25 Oct 2016, at 00:49, Ramy Moustafa 
>>> >>> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Hello all:
>>> >>> I have 2 questions:
>>> >>> 1- if i need to save a document from pages or text edit, on my
>>> >>> downloads but not on the root of my downloads, let’s say that i
>>> >>> created a folder inside downloads called docs, and i need to save y
>>> >>> document inside it, There is no way to do this from pages or text
>>> >>> edit, i have only to choose the root place, like downloads, iCloud
>>> >>> etc, do you have a solution?
>>> >>> 2- i need to find a short cut to make me switch between 2 input
>>> >>> sources on keyboard, i’m now using the input menu, can i find
>>> >>> something easier?
>>> >>> Thanks
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Re: Saving a document under many folders, and input short cut

[christopher hallsworth]

I have too, but just so you know, you hold, not press, command-space.
> On 25 Oct 2016, at 13:09, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
> 
> Regarding Siri activation shortcut keys, I changed it in system preference / 
> siri to fn+spacebar as it clashes with command+spacebar as I use it for input 
> change.
> 
> 
>> On 25 Oct 2016, at 12:10, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
>> 
>> First can be one with sidebar. In the finder drag The folder of interest to 
>> the sidebar, there is a keyboard shortcut for this but I don't remember it. 
>> Then, when saving documents you should be able to expand out a mini find 
>> your view to select things including the items on the sidebar.
>> 
>> We are second issue, you need to go into system settings keyboard shortcuts 
>> and change the keyboard shortcut for spotlight to something else, then 
>> command space should toggle between keyboard input modes. This might A bit 
>> different in Sierra, since command space hell down on some cases bring up 
>> Siri, with the above worked up to El Capitan.
>> On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 6:20 AM Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
>> I had some difficulty with it too initially.
>> 
>> Make sure you interact with the second column in the second table.  The 
>> first column just tells you whether the checkbox is checked or not.  The 
>> second column tells you what the shortcut currently is.  You need to 
>> interact with the cell first and move once to the right to land on the 
>> textedit field with the shortcut currently in place.  Voiceover should say 
>> "selected" and then you press the new shortcut key combination.  Move away 
>> and back to the same field to confirm the new shortcut.
>> 
>> Let me know if you succeed.
>> 
>> Andrew
>> > On 25 Oct 2016, at 09:52, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
>> >
>> > Hello
>> >> On:
>> > Ok  I know from where can i choose a short cut, but i can not change the 
>> > short cut for the input source, i followed the procedures  but nothing.  
>> > so, can anyone tell em, how can i change the short cut for this/
>> >> Oct 25, 2016, at 7:44 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hello,
>> >>
>> >> The command to change your input source can be changed in System 
>> >> Preferences, Keyboard, Shortcuts. Select Input Sources in the first 
>> >> table, then go to the next table and change the shortcuts.
>> >>
>> >> Cheers,
>> >>
>> >> Anne
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> On 25 Oct 2016, at 00:49, Ramy Moustafa  
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Hello all:
>> >>> I have 2 questions:
>> >>> 1- if i need to save a document from pages or text edit, on my downloads 
>> >>> but not on the root of my downloads, let’s say that i created a folder 
>> >>> inside downloads called docs, and i need to save y document inside it, 
>> >>> There is no way to do this from pages or text edit, i have only to 
>> >>> choose the root place, like downloads, iCloud etc, do you have a 
>> >>> solution?
>> >>> 2- i need to find a short cut to make me switch between 2 input sources 
>> >>> on keyboard, i’m now using the input menu, can i find  something easier?
>> >>> Thanks
>> >>>
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Re: Switching iPhone carriers from AT to Verizon

[Scott Granados]

I know it’s unlimited talk and text, not sure on the data side.  My mother 
somehow weaseled this plan out of verizon threatening to leave.  When I speak 
to her later I’ll ask for the specific data allotment with her plan.

Thanks

> On Oct 25, 2016, at 1:35 PM, Singing Sparrow  wrote:
> 
> this unlimited plan for 50 dollars you menchen  is this for unlimited talk, 
> unlimited text, and unlimited data? for verizon?
> 
> Please let me know
> 
> On 10/24/2016 5:20 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> Hi Phil, with a 6S+, as long as the phone is unlocked, you can   port it 
>> to where ever you wish.  This is not the case with the 7 as Apple went 
>> through unifying the hardware on the 6 / 6s series  but started using 
>> different modems again with the 7 / 7+.
>> 
>> However insure the phone is unlocked.
>> 
>> Also, Verizon may not be the way to go.  As much as I’d love for you to use 
>> my handiwork and there’s a lot of that in the Verizon Wireless network it’s 
>> not the best network any more.  It has fallen in to second place behind 
>> T-Mobile in terms of network speed, features and call stability.  With voice 
>> over LTE using extended services signaling for example your calls go through 
>> faster and more reliably on T-Mobile not to mention the new encoding schemes 
>> which the 6S can take advantage of some of these features.  T-Mobile also 
>> has a more developed WiFi calling feature and is a lot more cost effective 
>> under normal conditions. (***note*** on Verizon you can threaten to cancel 
>> and if you get the right rep get an unlimited plan for $50 but it’s not 
>> offered as a matter of course)  
>> 
>> If I were you I’d get a test SIM from Verizon and one from T-Mobile and try 
>> each for the allowed 14 day period and pick the one that works best for you.
>> 
>> AT and Sprint are both years behind T-Mobile and VZ so either way, you’ll 
>> be happier.
>> 
>> Good luck and let us know how you make out.
>> 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 24, 2016, at 6:02 PM, Phil Halton >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Here's a question for the techies on the list. I have an I phone 6S plus 
>>> that I purchased through the Apple store, and with AT as a carrier, and 
>>> I'm thinking about switching to Verizon wireless. Can IPort this phone 
>>> over to Verizon, or is the whole GSM/CDMA thing still happening?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my IPhone
>>> 
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Re: VMware with MacBook 2015

[Scott Granados]

Depending on what you’re running on the Mac side.  Just understand the more 
cores you assign to the VM the less power the Mac side will share in.  In 
effect you’re just prioritizing the scheduling of your VM higher than the 
native Mac side.  You can always reduce the core count if you run in to 
difficulty so there’s no harm in trying.  I would and see how things work.


> On Oct 25, 2016, at 1:50 PM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
> 
> Ah, thank you, Scott, this is more than I could have wished.
> 
> Just finally to run it past you as you seem to be an expert here (:)), would 
> it be ok for me to assign four cores to my virtual machine?  At present I 
> have set it to two cores but I'd be happier with more.
> 
> Best wishes
> 
> Andrew
>> On 25 Oct 2016, at 17:21, Scott Granados > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Andrew, this is a 2 core model.  The 13 inch models use 2 core processors 
>> and the 15 inch use 4.  I looked up your specific laptop line and here is a 
>> link that will tell you more than you want to know.
>> 
>> http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/macbook_pro/specs/macbook-pro-core-i7-3.0-13-mid-2014-retina-display-specs.html
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> Let me know if that helps.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Scott
>> 
>>> On Oct 25, 2016, at 12:13 PM, Andrew Lamanche >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Scott,
>>> 
>>> This is so generous of you: thank you for such a detailed explanation.
>>> 
>>> I've looked under "about this mac' menu item, and I can see that my macbook 
>>> pro May 2014 has 3GHz intel i7 processor but it doesn't tell me how many 
>>> physical cores it has; consequently, I don't know whether it has two or 
>>> four physical cores.  Where can I find info on what kind of processor this 
>>> is?
>>> 
>>> Many thanks again
>>> 
>>> Andrew
 On 25 Oct 2016, at 15:34, Scott Granados > wrote:
 
 Hi Andrew, I think this is on topic since we’re talking about the use of a 
 set of applications on the Mac, Mark or Kara can speak up if not but I 
 think we’re well with in safe territory for the subject and it’s a great 
 question.
 
 Threading is just a fancy computer word for scheduling.   Threads are 
 processes that run on physical hardware and you can assign threads or 
 schedules to applications to get work done.
Each physical core is a processing engine.  Back in the ancient days 
 say the early 2000s and before:) a processor only had one processing 
 engine on the dye.  A dye is the physical piece of silicon that the 
 processor is etched on.  Etching is a chemical process where they cut the 
 components on to a piece of silicon  similar to say glass etchings but in 
 extraordinarily fine detail.  With better chemistry and processes it 
 became possible to put more than one physical processor on the same piece 
 of silicon or dye.  They started with 2 cores, then 4 and I believe they 
 are up to 12 or more now on a single piece of silicon for high end 
 applications.  The intel chips we use in our laptops support 2 or 4 cores 
 or 2 or 4 processors per single dye.  This means in the place where you 
 used to be able to put one processor in a single socket you can put 4 or 
 more now.
Each physical core has 2 threads also called Hyper Threading.  This 
 means to your software, if you look at the number of processors installed 
 on a MacBook Pro 13 inch you’ll see 4 physical processors but in reality 
 you have a single chip or dye with 2 physical processors and each 
 processor is broken in to 2 pieces.  So you can see how we get to a point 
 where there’s twice as many cores showing up in software as there actually 
 are on the dye.
Now when you run VMWare or other virtualization software you have the 
 ability to assign cores to a virtual machine.  Each core is one of these 
 hyper threaded segments so you get 2 cores per actual core or in your case 
 a maximum of 4.  On the 15 inch models, they use 4 core processors so you 
 can have up to 8 cores on a VM.
How do the number of cores relate to getting work done?  So core count 
 is more important than clock speed or anything else.  For example, a 4 
 core I5 version of the processor will out perform a 2 core or dual core 
 version of the I7.  The reason is you have two more actual engines doing 
 work so on an I5 even though each individual engine is less powerful the 
 aggregate of all 4 out performs 2 I7 cores.  As you’d expect, 4 I7 cores 
 will out perform 4 I5 cores so you can start to see a relationship here.
On your virtual machines you assign cores based on how much work you 
 

Re: VMware with MacBook 2015

[Andrew Lamanche]

Ah, thank you, Scott, this is more than I could have wished.

Just finally to run it past you as you seem to be an expert here (:)), would it 
be ok for me to assign four cores to my virtual machine?  At present I have set 
it to two cores but I'd be happier with more.

Best wishes

Andrew
> On 25 Oct 2016, at 17:21, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> Hi Andrew, this is a 2 core model.  The 13 inch models use 2 core processors 
> and the 15 inch use 4.  I looked up your specific laptop line and here is a 
> link that will tell you more than you want to know.
> 
> http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/macbook_pro/specs/macbook-pro-core-i7-3.0-13-mid-2014-retina-display-specs.html
>  
> 
> 
> Let me know if that helps.
> 
> Thanks
> Scott
> 
>> On Oct 25, 2016, at 12:13 PM, Andrew Lamanche > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Scott,
>> 
>> This is so generous of you: thank you for such a detailed explanation.
>> 
>> I've looked under "about this mac' menu item, and I can see that my macbook 
>> pro May 2014 has 3GHz intel i7 processor but it doesn't tell me how many 
>> physical cores it has; consequently, I don't know whether it has two or four 
>> physical cores.  Where can I find info on what kind of processor this is?
>> 
>> Many thanks again
>> 
>> Andrew
>>> On 25 Oct 2016, at 15:34, Scott Granados >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Andrew, I think this is on topic since we’re talking about the use of a 
>>> set of applications on the Mac, Mark or Kara can speak up if not but I 
>>> think we’re well with in safe territory for the subject and it’s a great 
>>> question.
>>> 
>>> Threading is just a fancy computer word for scheduling.   Threads are 
>>> processes that run on physical hardware and you can assign threads or 
>>> schedules to applications to get work done.
>>> Each physical core is a processing engine.  Back in the ancient days 
>>> say the early 2000s and before:) a processor only had one processing engine 
>>> on the dye.  A dye is the physical piece of silicon that the processor is 
>>> etched on.  Etching is a chemical process where they cut the components on 
>>> to a piece of silicon  similar to say glass etchings but in extraordinarily 
>>> fine detail.  With better chemistry and processes it became possible to put 
>>> more than one physical processor on the same piece of silicon or dye.  They 
>>> started with 2 cores, then 4 and I believe they are up to 12 or more now on 
>>> a single piece of silicon for high end applications.  The intel chips we 
>>> use in our laptops support 2 or 4 cores or 2 or 4 processors per single 
>>> dye.  This means in the place where you used to be able to put one 
>>> processor in a single socket you can put 4 or more now.
>>> Each physical core has 2 threads also called Hyper Threading.  This 
>>> means to your software, if you look at the number of processors installed 
>>> on a MacBook Pro 13 inch you’ll see 4 physical processors but in reality 
>>> you have a single chip or dye with 2 physical processors and each processor 
>>> is broken in to 2 pieces.  So you can see how we get to a point where 
>>> there’s twice as many cores showing up in software as there actually are on 
>>> the dye.
>>> Now when you run VMWare or other virtualization software you have the 
>>> ability to assign cores to a virtual machine.  Each core is one of these 
>>> hyper threaded segments so you get 2 cores per actual core or in your case 
>>> a maximum of 4.  On the 15 inch models, they use 4 core processors so you 
>>> can have up to 8 cores on a VM.
>>> How do the number of cores relate to getting work done?  So core count 
>>> is more important than clock speed or anything else.  For example, a 4 core 
>>> I5 version of the processor will out perform a 2 core or dual core version 
>>> of the I7.  The reason is you have two more actual engines doing work so on 
>>> an I5 even though each individual engine is less powerful the aggregate of 
>>> all 4 out performs 2 I7 cores.  As you’d expect, 4 I7 cores will out 
>>> perform 4 I5 cores so you can start to see a relationship here.
>>> On your virtual machines you assign cores based on how much work you 
>>> want to do with each machine.  In my case I run a lot of virtual routers 
>>> which for my purposes of learning and lab testing don’t need a huge amount 
>>> of horse power each so I will assign 1 per or at most 2.  On the other 
>>> hand, Windows requires more effort to run so I might assign half my cores 
>>> or 4 out of 8 to the virtual machine leaving a good amount of power left 
>>> over for my Mac and a good amount for the VM.  It’s not exactly a linear 
>>> calculation but it’s good enough for government work so you can split 
>>> things up that way.  The more cores you 

Re: Switching iPhone carriers from AT to Verizon

[Singing Sparrow]

this unlimited plan for 50 dollars you menchen  is this for unlimited 
talk, unlimited text, and unlimited data? for verizon?


Please let me know


On 10/24/2016 5:20 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
Hi Phil, with a 6S+, as long as the phone is unlocked, you can port it 
to where ever you wish.  This is not the case with the 7 as Apple went 
through unifying the hardware on the 6 / 6s series  but started using 
different modems again with the 7 / 7+.


However insure the phone is unlocked.

Also, Verizon may not be the way to go.  As much as I’d love for you 
to use my handiwork and there’s a lot of that in the Verizon Wireless 
network it’s not the best network any more.  It has fallen in to 
second place behind T-Mobile in terms of network speed, features and 
call stability.  With voice over LTE using extended services signaling 
for example your calls go through faster and more reliably on T-Mobile 
not to mention the new encoding schemes which the 6S can take 
advantage of some of these features.  T-Mobile also has a more 
developed WiFi calling feature and is a lot more cost effective under 
normal conditions. (***note*** on Verizon you can threaten to cancel 
and if you get the right rep get an unlimited plan for $50 but it’s 
not offered as a matter of course)


If I were you I’d get a test SIM from Verizon and one from T-Mobile 
and try each for the allowed 14 day period and pick the one that works 
best for you.


AT and Sprint are both years behind T-Mobile and VZ so either way, 
you’ll be happier.


Good luck and let us know how you make out.




On Oct 24, 2016, at 6:02 PM, Phil Halton > wrote:


Here's a question for the techies on the list. I have an I phone 6S 
plus that I purchased through the Apple store, and with AT as a 
carrier, and I'm thinking about switching to Verizon wireless. Can 
IPort this phone over to Verizon, or is the whole GSM/CDMA thing 
still happening?



Sent from my IPhone


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Re: Setting up iCloud settings issues after installing IOS 10.1

[Helga Schreiber]

Hi Scott. Ok I understand. This is my problem so when I install IOS 10.1, when 
I was setting my icloud settings, it ask me for my passwrd, and then it ask me 
to approve my iphone 6S. I don't find any popup in order to double tap on 
approve and so on. I have a Mac computer running Sierra, and I hve an iPad Mini 
4 and iPod touch 6 gneration, which I'm running IOS 10 betas. I'm writing you 
on my iphone, but now on my settings, it gives follow up an update available 
since my icloud settings is not set up. I double tap. On approve later since it 
tell me to loggign tto icloud on my other device to aprove my iPhone 6S. I did 
logging to iCloud using my Ipod and Mac, but it is not working. Do you kno 
anyway I can get this pop up to approve my Iphone 6S? I look forward in hearing 
from you soon. Thanks and God bless!

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> On Oct 25, 2016, at 10:39 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> With the approval you should get a popup on your Mac or iPad or other apple 
> device.  You’ll set up on your phone and then see an approval request on your 
> other device, click approve and then you’ll receive a code of 6 digits in 
> length.  Punch that code in to your phone and you should be good to go.
> 
> Thank you
> Scott
> 
>> On Oct 25, 2016, at 2:54 AM, Helga Schreiber  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all! How are yu all? So I install the IOS 10.1 on my iPhone 6s. I'm 
>> having issues in setting up my icloud settings. ICloud key chain is off in 
>> all  my devices. I do have enable two-factor authentication. It tells me 
>> waiting for approveal. It tells me that ineed to approve my iPhone 6S. It 
>> tells me to logging to icloud in order to approve my iPhone, and I did, but 
>> I don't know hwo to approve it and so on. Any suggestions in how can I fix 
>> this? I really want to set my icloud settings. I look forward in hearing 
>> from you soon. Thanks and God bless! from you soon. Thanks
>> 
>>   Helga Schreiber 
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>>  
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Re: VMware with MacBook 2015

[Scott Granados]

Hi Andrew, this is a 2 core model.  The 13 inch models use 2 core processors 
and the 15 inch use 4.  I looked up your specific laptop line and here is a 
link that will tell you more than you want to know.

http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/macbook_pro/specs/macbook-pro-core-i7-3.0-13-mid-2014-retina-display-specs.html
 


Let me know if that helps.

Thanks
Scott

> On Oct 25, 2016, at 12:13 PM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
> 
> Hi Scott,
> 
> This is so generous of you: thank you for such a detailed explanation.
> 
> I've looked under "about this mac' menu item, and I can see that my macbook 
> pro May 2014 has 3GHz intel i7 processor but it doesn't tell me how many 
> physical cores it has; consequently, I don't know whether it has two or four 
> physical cores.  Where can I find info on what kind of processor this is?
> 
> Many thanks again
> 
> Andrew
>> On 25 Oct 2016, at 15:34, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Andrew, I think this is on topic since we’re talking about the use of a 
>> set of applications on the Mac, Mark or Kara can speak up if not but I think 
>> we’re well with in safe territory for the subject and it’s a great question.
>> 
>> Threading is just a fancy computer word for scheduling.   Threads are 
>> processes that run on physical hardware and you can assign threads or 
>> schedules to applications to get work done.
>>  Each physical core is a processing engine.  Back in the ancient days 
>> say the early 2000s and before:) a processor only had one processing engine 
>> on the dye.  A dye is the physical piece of silicon that the processor is 
>> etched on.  Etching is a chemical process where they cut the components on 
>> to a piece of silicon  similar to say glass etchings but in extraordinarily 
>> fine detail.  With better chemistry and processes it became possible to put 
>> more than one physical processor on the same piece of silicon or dye.  They 
>> started with 2 cores, then 4 and I believe they are up to 12 or more now on 
>> a single piece of silicon for high end applications.  The intel chips we use 
>> in our laptops support 2 or 4 cores or 2 or 4 processors per single dye.  
>> This means in the place where you used to be able to put one processor in a 
>> single socket you can put 4 or more now.
>>  Each physical core has 2 threads also called Hyper Threading.  This 
>> means to your software, if you look at the number of processors installed on 
>> a MacBook Pro 13 inch you’ll see 4 physical processors but in reality you 
>> have a single chip or dye with 2 physical processors and each processor is 
>> broken in to 2 pieces.  So you can see how we get to a point where there’s 
>> twice as many cores showing up in software as there actually are on the dye.
>>  Now when you run VMWare or other virtualization software you have the 
>> ability to assign cores to a virtual machine.  Each core is one of these 
>> hyper threaded segments so you get 2 cores per actual core or in your case a 
>> maximum of 4.  On the 15 inch models, they use 4 core processors so you can 
>> have up to 8 cores on a VM.
>>  How do the number of cores relate to getting work done?  So core count 
>> is more important than clock speed or anything else.  For example, a 4 core 
>> I5 version of the processor will out perform a 2 core or dual core version 
>> of the I7.  The reason is you have two more actual engines doing work so on 
>> an I5 even though each individual engine is less powerful the aggregate of 
>> all 4 out performs 2 I7 cores.  As you’d expect, 4 I7 cores will out perform 
>> 4 I5 cores so you can start to see a relationship here.
>>  On your virtual machines you assign cores based on how much work you 
>> want to do with each machine.  In my case I run a lot of virtual routers 
>> which for my purposes of learning and lab testing don’t need a huge amount 
>> of horse power each so I will assign 1 per or at most 2.  On the other hand, 
>> Windows requires more effort to run so I might assign half my cores or 4 out 
>> of 8 to the virtual machine leaving a good amount of power left over for my 
>> Mac and a good amount for the VM.  It’s not exactly a linear calculation but 
>> it’s good enough for government work so you can split things up that way.  
>> The more cores you assign to the VM the fewer are available for scheduling 
>> other Mac Jobs.  You can assign all 8 and the load will just be shared with 
>> the Mac, it doesn’t render the mac side useless but your VM can really pull 
>> a lot of power from the rest of the machine in that configuration.
>> 
>> Let me know if this has helped you or if I’ve only confused you worse.  Feel 
>> free to ask any followup questions to help fill in the gaps or anything I’ve 
>> confused you on.
>> 
>> Thanks for the great question.
>> 
>> Scott
>> 
>> 
>>> 

Re: VMware with MacBook 2015

[Andrew Lamanche]

Hi Scott,

This is so generous of you: thank you for such a detailed explanation.

I've looked under "about this mac' menu item, and I can see that my macbook pro 
May 2014 has 3GHz intel i7 processor but it doesn't tell me how many physical 
cores it has; consequently, I don't know whether it has two or four physical 
cores.  Where can I find info on what kind of processor this is?

Many thanks again

Andrew
> On 25 Oct 2016, at 15:34, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> Hi Andrew, I think this is on topic since we’re talking about the use of a 
> set of applications on the Mac, Mark or Kara can speak up if not but I think 
> we’re well with in safe territory for the subject and it’s a great question.
> 
> Threading is just a fancy computer word for scheduling.   Threads are 
> processes that run on physical hardware and you can assign threads or 
> schedules to applications to get work done.
>   Each physical core is a processing engine.  Back in the ancient days 
> say the early 2000s and before:) a processor only had one processing engine 
> on the dye.  A dye is the physical piece of silicon that the processor is 
> etched on.  Etching is a chemical process where they cut the components on to 
> a piece of silicon  similar to say glass etchings but in extraordinarily fine 
> detail.  With better chemistry and processes it became possible to put more 
> than one physical processor on the same piece of silicon or dye.  They 
> started with 2 cores, then 4 and I believe they are up to 12 or more now on a 
> single piece of silicon for high end applications.  The intel chips we use in 
> our laptops support 2 or 4 cores or 2 or 4 processors per single dye.  This 
> means in the place where you used to be able to put one processor in a single 
> socket you can put 4 or more now.
>   Each physical core has 2 threads also called Hyper Threading.  This 
> means to your software, if you look at the number of processors installed on 
> a MacBook Pro 13 inch you’ll see 4 physical processors but in reality you 
> have a single chip or dye with 2 physical processors and each processor is 
> broken in to 2 pieces.  So you can see how we get to a point where there’s 
> twice as many cores showing up in software as there actually are on the dye.
>   Now when you run VMWare or other virtualization software you have the 
> ability to assign cores to a virtual machine.  Each core is one of these 
> hyper threaded segments so you get 2 cores per actual core or in your case a 
> maximum of 4.  On the 15 inch models, they use 4 core processors so you can 
> have up to 8 cores on a VM.
>   How do the number of cores relate to getting work done?  So core count 
> is more important than clock speed or anything else.  For example, a 4 core 
> I5 version of the processor will out perform a 2 core or dual core version of 
> the I7.  The reason is you have two more actual engines doing work so on an 
> I5 even though each individual engine is less powerful the aggregate of all 4 
> out performs 2 I7 cores.  As you’d expect, 4 I7 cores will out perform 4 I5 
> cores so you can start to see a relationship here.
>   On your virtual machines you assign cores based on how much work you 
> want to do with each machine.  In my case I run a lot of virtual routers 
> which for my purposes of learning and lab testing don’t need a huge amount of 
> horse power each so I will assign 1 per or at most 2.  On the other hand, 
> Windows requires more effort to run so I might assign half my cores or 4 out 
> of 8 to the virtual machine leaving a good amount of power left over for my 
> Mac and a good amount for the VM.  It’s not exactly a linear calculation but 
> it’s good enough for government work so you can split things up that way.  
> The more cores you assign to the VM the fewer are available for scheduling 
> other Mac Jobs.  You can assign all 8 and the load will just be shared with 
> the Mac, it doesn’t render the mac side useless but your VM can really pull a 
> lot of power from the rest of the machine in that configuration.
> 
> Let me know if this has helped you or if I’ve only confused you worse.  Feel 
> free to ask any followup questions to help fill in the gaps or anything I’ve 
> confused you on.
> 
> Thanks for the great question.
> 
> Scott
> 
> 
>> On Oct 25, 2016, at 4:22 AM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
>> 
>> can I just ask a quick somewhat off-topic question regarding the cores 
>> assigned to the virtual machine?  I have a macbook pro 13 inch 2014 with 
>> 16GB RAM and I7 processor.  Does this mean I could assign easily 4 cores to 
>> Windows in VMWare Fusion?
>> 
>> I've always had a bit of trouble understanding the subject of cores and 
>> virtual cores and threading for that matter. :)
>> 
>> Many thanks
>> 
>> Andrew
>>> On 25 Oct 2016, at 00:30, Scott Granados  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi there, one thing you can do is make sure you have enough 

Re: T-Mobile carrier update available

[Scott Granados]

The watch updates take a while to run.  Mine took about a half hour to complete 
maybe a bit less.  Just budget that time to leave your phone and watch plugged 
in to upgrade.

Good luck

> On Oct 25, 2016, at 4:54 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi Scott,
> Thanks for the update alert,
>  
> Will have to wait till tomorrow now to do watch and mba as time to sleep
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>  ] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
> Sent: Tuesday, 25 October 2016 10:06 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: T-Mobile carrier update available
>  
> Hi Mary, this is for all customers not just the beta as it was sent over the 
> air, not as part of the download package.
>  
> Daniel, as for whether it’s for the iPhone 6, I am not sure of that.  Most 
> carriers unify their iPhone releases but with the fractured state of modems 
> on GSM networks now I am not sure.  I am using an iPhone 7+ for reference.
>  
> Thank you
>  
> On Oct 24, 2016, at 4:32 PM, Mary Otten  > wrote:
>  
> This might be for people using the beta and not for people not using the 
> beta. I am using the beta, and I just checked and the update was there.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Oct 24, 2016, at 1:21 PM, Daniel C  > wrote:
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> Are you sure this carrier update is for all iPhone's? Or for certain one's?
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Re: Anything new, good or bad, related to voiceover in the new update for Sierra

[Scott Granados]

Hi Shawn, I see the same behavior on my machine and I do use the unlock with 
watch feature.

It says that string of sentences twice or sometimes 3 times as it boots, I 
usually just press control or some other key to skip the babbling at that stage.

> On Oct 25, 2016, at 2:15 AM, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary. I'm not experiencing any major Voiceover issues here. Although when 
> my screen goes to sleep Voiceover says Authentication, Login Panel, User, 
> Authentication has new window. This has never happened in previous versions 
> of Sierra but has started with this beta cycle. I can't figure out why it 
> does this. I don't have a password and I don't have it set to require a 
> password after wake. I don't have a screensaver either but it's as if it's 
> treating whatever this is as a screensaver. Maybe it has something to do with 
> the Unlock With Watch feature but I doubt it because my Mac is too old for 
> that feature.
> 
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>> On Oct 24, 2016, at 11:12 PM, Michael Marshall  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> The serie bug where it does not read your message if you ask to post to 
>> Twitter is still there.
>>> On 25 Oct. 2016, at 9:48 am, Scott Granados  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I haven’t noticed anything sideways with the new release.  I am noticing 
>>> for example the unlock with watch feature is far more reliable and some 
>>> small things like that.  Also very stable but nothing pro or conn 
>>> accessibility wise.  I don’t recall the post off hand to comment on the 
>>> specific issue.
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
 On Oct 24, 2016, at 6:40 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
 
 On one of these two lists, and I don't remember which one, there was a 
 cryptic comment not too long ago from someone saying that they were 
 unhappy with something about the Sierra beta, which is now the official 
 Sierra update. Because they were running a beta, they didn't want to 
 comment on what the thing was that they didn't like that had to do with 
 excess ability. I haven't installed the update yet, and I'm curious what 
 people have noticed, good or bad who have installed the latest update.
 
 
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Re: Even in iOS 10.1 the iBook VoiceOver Continuous Reading Bug Continues

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi Mark,
I can confirm your findings.  In fact, this problem also occurs if Auto Lock is 
set to a longer time.  In my case, I tested your model at 30 seconds, and also 
my usual setting of one minute.  In both cases, iBooks will stop speaking after 
a length of time, usually longer than the Auto Lock setting.  It does take much 
longer to produce the stoppage when Auto Lock is set to one minute, but it will 
happen.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Oct 25, 2016, at 00:58, M. Taylor  wrote:

Hello Everyone,

A while ago I posted to the groups describing what I consider to be an iBook
VoiceOver continuous reading bug given that the behavior did not occur in
previous versions of iOS.  

After posting, a couple of iOS beta testers reported that this issue had
been resolved in iOS 10.1.  

Well, as you can guess, I updated to iOS 10.1 and the bug, in my opinion,
persists.  

I am going to paste in a modified copy of my previous post on this and see
if any of you can reproduce it in iOS 10.1.

[ORIGINAL TEXT]
My preferred method for reading iOS iBook titles is to use the two-finger,
swipe-down VoiceOver gesture, in order to initiate continuous reading of the
text.  Please note that I am not referring to the Speak Screen accessibility
feature.

In short, my display is set to automatically lock after 30 seconds.  In the
previous versions of IOS, performing a 2-finger swipe down, in an iBook
title, would suspend the auto-lock and allow for continuous reading of the
text.  This does not appear to be the case, any longer.

This is to say, in certain titles, such as those containing imbedded
hyperlinks, the auto-lock engages, cancelling the continuous reading mode.

I first discovered this, last night, while reading the Apple TV User Guide.
The same phenomenon occurred when I tested my hypothesis with the iPhone
User Guide for iOS 10 and iPhone User Guide for iOS 9.3.  

At first, I thought it was some kind of issue with titles produced by Apple
but I tested a recently published (non Apple) title, that has a web link
imbedded in the text, and, just as with the Apple manuals, after less than 1
minute, the screen locked and reading ceased.  

It should be noted, that the hyperlinks that exist in the Table of Contents,
used to jump to a specific area, does not cause interruption to the
continuous reading feature.  I say this because titles in my Library,
containing only such links, read as expected.

Steps to Reproduce:

1.
>From Settings/General/Display and Brightness, set Auto Lock to 30 seconds.

2.
In iBook, open the Apple TV User Guide and, from the table of contents,
select Home Sharing; or, open the iPhone User Guide for iOS 10 and, from the
table of contents, select Basics.

3.
Once the desired page is displayed, perform the two-finger swipe-down
VoiceOver gesture to initiate continuous reading.  

As I said, in my testing, each time either an imbedded hyperlink or heading
is encountered, a short time later, the screen will lock and reading will
stop.  

Please confirm if this occurs during your testing.

I would like to note that, this problem does not occur when using the Speak
Screen accessibility feature.  While certainly useful in some instances, the
Speak Screen feature is not my preferred method for reading iBook titles.  

Mark


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Re: Setting up iCloud settings issues after installing IOS 10.1

[Scott Granados]

With the approval you should get a popup on your Mac or iPad or other apple 
device.  You’ll set up on your phone and then see an approval request on your 
other device, click approve and then you’ll receive a code of 6 digits in 
length.  Punch that code in to your phone and you should be good to go.

Thank you
Scott

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> Hi all! How are yu all? So I install the IOS 10.1 on my iPhone 6s. I'm having 
> issues in setting up my icloud settings. ICloud key chain is off in all  my 
> devices. I do have enable two-factor authentication. It tells me waiting for 
> approveal. It tells me that ineed to approve my iPhone 6S. It tells me to 
> logging to icloud in order to approve my iPhone, and I did, but I don't know 
> hwo to approve it and so on. Any suggestions in how can I fix this? I really 
> want to set my icloud settings. I look forward in hearing from you soon. 
> Thanks and God bless! from you soon. Thanks
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Re: VMware with MacBook 2015

[Scott Granados]

Hi Andrew, I think this is on topic since we’re talking about the use of a set 
of applications on the Mac, Mark or Kara can speak up if not but I think we’re 
well with in safe territory for the subject and it’s a great question.

Threading is just a fancy computer word for scheduling.   Threads are processes 
that run on physical hardware and you can assign threads or schedules to 
applications to get work done.
Each physical core is a processing engine.  Back in the ancient days 
say the early 2000s and before:) a processor only had one processing engine on 
the dye.  A dye is the physical piece of silicon that the processor is etched 
on.  Etching is a chemical process where they cut the components on to a piece 
of silicon  similar to say glass etchings but in extraordinarily fine detail.  
With better chemistry and processes it became possible to put more than one 
physical processor on the same piece of silicon or dye.  They started with 2 
cores, then 4 and I believe they are up to 12 or more now on a single piece of 
silicon for high end applications.  The intel chips we use in our laptops 
support 2 or 4 cores or 2 or 4 processors per single dye.  This means in the 
place where you used to be able to put one processor in a single socket you can 
put 4 or more now.
Each physical core has 2 threads also called Hyper Threading.  This 
means to your software, if you look at the number of processors installed on a 
MacBook Pro 13 inch you’ll see 4 physical processors but in reality you have a 
single chip or dye with 2 physical processors and each processor is broken in 
to 2 pieces.  So you can see how we get to a point where there’s twice as many 
cores showing up in software as there actually are on the dye.
Now when you run VMWare or other virtualization software you have the 
ability to assign cores to a virtual machine.  Each core is one of these hyper 
threaded segments so you get 2 cores per actual core or in your case a maximum 
of 4.  On the 15 inch models, they use 4 core processors so you can have up to 
8 cores on a VM.
How do the number of cores relate to getting work done?  So core count 
is more important than clock speed or anything else.  For example, a 4 core I5 
version of the processor will out perform a 2 core or dual core version of the 
I7.  The reason is you have two more actual engines doing work so on an I5 even 
though each individual engine is less powerful the aggregate of all 4 out 
performs 2 I7 cores.  As you’d expect, 4 I7 cores will out perform 4 I5 cores 
so you can start to see a relationship here.
On your virtual machines you assign cores based on how much work you 
want to do with each machine.  In my case I run a lot of virtual routers which 
for my purposes of learning and lab testing don’t need a huge amount of horse 
power each so I will assign 1 per or at most 2.  On the other hand, Windows 
requires more effort to run so I might assign half my cores or 4 out of 8 to 
the virtual machine leaving a good amount of power left over for my Mac and a 
good amount for the VM.  It’s not exactly a linear calculation but it’s good 
enough for government work so you can split things up that way.  The more cores 
you assign to the VM the fewer are available for scheduling other Mac Jobs.  
You can assign all 8 and the load will just be shared with the Mac, it doesn’t 
render the mac side useless but your VM can really pull a lot of power from the 
rest of the machine in that configuration.

Let me know if this has helped you or if I’ve only confused you worse.  Feel 
free to ask any followup questions to help fill in the gaps or anything I’ve 
confused you on.

Thanks for the great question.

Scott


> On Oct 25, 2016, at 4:22 AM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
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> can I just ask a quick somewhat off-topic question regarding the cores 
> assigned to the virtual machine?  I have a macbook pro 13 inch 2014 with 16GB 
> RAM and I7 processor.  Does this mean I could assign easily 4 cores to 
> Windows in VMWare Fusion?
> 
> I've always had a bit of trouble understanding the subject of cores and 
> virtual cores and threading for that matter. :)
> 
> Many thanks
> 
> Andrew
>> On 25 Oct 2016, at 00:30, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi there, one thing you can do is make sure you have enough cores dedicated. 
>>  On a 13 inch MacBook pro I’d probably go 4 GB for the VM and at least 2 
>> cores for the CPU.  Remember it’s 2 cores in software per every real core do 
>> to hyper threading.  If you have the I5 processor then you have 2 cores so 
>> you could bump up to 4 but it will impact the Mac side.  It’s a nice little 
>> power house though so you should be fine.  Also wait a minute after windows 
>> boots as the boot process is a real drain on resources.
>> 
>> As for voice over, you can use the VM with VO engaged but I find it works 
>> better with VO off and just activate it when you need it.
>> 

Re: Checking how much data has been downloaded.

[Terje Strømberg]

The built in apple activity monitor also gives information from last boot. If 
you take a note of how much data downloaded since 9pm and look again at 12am 
you can figure it out. There may be a better way though.

Take care 


> 25. okt. 2016 kl. 13.27 skrev Jonathan Cohn :
> 
> There might be some items in activity monitor though I don't know if they get 
> populated even if activity monitor is closed and most likely the display is 
> graphical. 
> 
> On the command line you could use  
> netstat -i 
> but that gives you numbers since booting. You could keep terminal up and then 
> run a version of net stat that updates every hour…
> net stat -i 3600 
> 
> The 3600 would be the number of seconds in an hour.
> 
> Good luck!
> 
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> 
> 
>> On Oct 24, 2016, at 11:41 PM, Agent086b  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> is it possible to check how much data has been downloaded on my Mac today? 
>> Thanks for any answer.
>> Max.
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Re: Saving a document under many folders, and input short cut

[Andrew Lamanche]

Regarding Siri activation shortcut keys, I changed it in system preference / 
siri to fn+spacebar as it clashes with command+spacebar as I use it for input 
change.


> On 25 Oct 2016, at 12:10, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> First can be one with sidebar. In the finder drag The folder of interest to 
> the sidebar, there is a keyboard shortcut for this but I don't remember it. 
> Then, when saving documents you should be able to expand out a mini find your 
> view to select things including the items on the sidebar.
> 
> We are second issue, you need to go into system settings keyboard shortcuts 
> and change the keyboard shortcut for spotlight to something else, then 
> command space should toggle  between keyboard input modes. This might A bit 
> different in Sierra, since command space hell down on some cases bring up 
> Siri, with the above worked up to El Capitan.
> On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 6:20 AM Andrew Lamanche  > wrote:
> I had some difficulty with it too initially.
> 
> Make sure you interact with the second column in the second table.  The first 
> column just tells you whether the checkbox is checked or not.  The second 
> column tells you what the shortcut currently is.  You need to interact with 
> the cell first and move once to the right to land on the textedit field with 
> the shortcut currently in place.  Voiceover should say "selected" and then 
> you press the new shortcut key combination.  Move away and back to the same 
> field to confirm the new shortcut.
> 
> Let me know if you succeed.
> 
> Andrew
> > On 25 Oct 2016, at 09:52, Ramy Moustafa  > > wrote:
> >
> > Hello
> >> On:
> > Ok  I know from where can i choose a short cut, but i can not change the 
> > short cut for the input source, i followed the procedures  but nothing.  
> > so, can anyone tell em, how can i change the short cut for this/
> >> Oct 25, 2016, at 7:44 AM, Anne Robertson  >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> The command to change your input source can be changed in System 
> >> Preferences, Keyboard, Shortcuts. Select Input Sources in the first table, 
> >> then go to the next table and change the shortcuts.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> Anne
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On 25 Oct 2016, at 00:49, Ramy Moustafa  >>> > wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hello all:
> >>> I have 2 questions:
> >>> 1- if i need to save a document from pages or text edit, on my downloads 
> >>> but not on the root of my downloads, let’s say that i created a folder 
> >>> inside downloads called docs, and i need to save y document inside it, 
> >>> There is no way to do this from pages or text edit, i have only to choose 
> >>> the root place, like downloads, iCloud etc, do you have a solution?
> >>> 2- i need to find a short cut to make me switch between 2 input sources 
> >>> on keyboard, i’m now using the input menu, can i find  something easier?
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Re: Checking how much data has been downloaded.

[Jonathan Cohn]

There might be some items in activity monitor though I don't know if they get 
populated even if activity monitor is closed and most likely the display is 
graphical. 

On the command line you could use  
netstat -i 
but that gives you numbers since booting. You could keep terminal up and then 
run a version of net stat that updates every hour…
net stat -i 3600 

The 3600 would be the number of seconds in an hour.

Good luck!


Jonathan



> On Oct 24, 2016, at 11:41 PM, Agent086b  wrote:
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> Hi all,
> is it possible to check how much data has been downloaded on my Mac today? 
> Thanks for any answer.
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Re: Stress testing the MacBook Pro

[Jonathan Cohn]

I have not experienced this, but one would hope that the computer would do 
this. Of course, first enabling energy saving functions like turning off 
throttled cpu's … 

Generally, my Macintosh's don't even start the fam unless I have VM's running.

Best wishes,

Jonathan



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> Hi there folks,
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> Just a quick question, if you over heat the MacBook Pro, will it shut it self 
> down like some of the other laptops out there?
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Re: Saving a document under many folders, and input short cut

[Jonathan Cohn]

First can be one with sidebar. In the finder drag The folder of interest to
the sidebar, there is a keyboard shortcut for this but I don't remember it.
Then, when saving documents you should be able to expand out a mini find
your view to select things including the items on the sidebar.

We are second issue, you need to go into system settings keyboard shortcuts
and change the keyboard shortcut for spotlight to something else, then
command space should toggle between keyboard input modes. This might A bit
different in Sierra, since command space hell down on some cases bring up
Siri, with the above worked up to El Capitan.
On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 6:20 AM Andrew Lamanche  wrote:

> I had some difficulty with it too initially.
>
> Make sure you interact with the second column in the second table.  The
> first column just tells you whether the checkbox is checked or not.  The
> second column tells you what the shortcut currently is.  You need to
> interact with the cell first and move once to the right to land on the
> textedit field with the shortcut currently in place.  Voiceover should say
> "selected" and then you press the new shortcut key combination.  Move away
> and back to the same field to confirm the new shortcut.
>
> Let me know if you succeed.
>
> Andrew
> > On 25 Oct 2016, at 09:52, Ramy Moustafa 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hello
> >> On:
> > Ok  I know from where can i choose a short cut, but i can not change the
> short cut for the input source, i followed the procedures  but nothing.
> so, can anyone tell em, how can i change the short cut for this/
> >> Oct 25, 2016, at 7:44 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
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> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> The command to change your input source can be changed in System
> Preferences, Keyboard, Shortcuts. Select Input Sources in the first table,
> then go to the next table and change the shortcuts.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> Anne
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On 25 Oct 2016, at 00:49, Ramy Moustafa 
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hello all:
> >>> I have 2 questions:
> >>> 1- if i need to save a document from pages or text edit, on my
> downloads but not on the root of my downloads, let’s say that i created a
> folder inside downloads called docs, and i need to save y document inside
> it, There is no way to do this from pages or text edit, i have only to
> choose the root place, like downloads, iCloud etc, do you have a solution?
> >>> 2- i need to find a short cut to make me switch between 2 input
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> easier?
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Re: VMware with MacBook 2015

[Andrew Lamanche]

Yes, it is normal because if you choose a language that uses different script 
to Latin, the shortcut keys that require Latin letters like for instance vo+m 
will not work.  I have the same issue in Greek because of its different 
lettering that is different from Latin alphabet.  So you need to choose 
shortcut key combination that doesn't require letters but is based on function 
keys and symbols provided they are the same in both languages you want to 
switch between.
> On 25 Oct 2016, at 09:55, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
> 
> Hello:
> ok, but if i choose any other language other than English, some system short 
> cuts like Vo+M are not working, is it usual?
> Thanks
>> On Oct 25, 2016, at 10:22 AM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
>> 
>> can I just ask a quick somewhat off-topic question regarding the cores 
>> assigned to the virtual machine?  I have a macbook pro 13 inch 2014 with 
>> 16GB RAM and I7 processor.  Does this mean I could assign easily 4 cores to 
>> Windows in VMWare Fusion?
>> 
>> I've always had a bit of trouble understanding the subject of cores and 
>> virtual cores and threading for that matter. :)
>> 
>> Many thanks
>> 
>> Andrew
>>> On 25 Oct 2016, at 00:30, Scott Granados  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi there, one thing you can do is make sure you have enough cores 
>>> dedicated.  On a 13 inch MacBook pro I’d probably go 4 GB for the VM and at 
>>> least 2 cores for the CPU.  Remember it’s 2 cores in software per every 
>>> real core do to hyper threading.  If you have the I5 processor then you 
>>> have 2 cores so you could bump up to 4 but it will impact the Mac side.  
>>> It’s a nice little power house though so you should be fine.  Also wait a 
>>> minute after windows boots as the boot process is a real drain on resources.
>>> 
>>> As for voice over, you can use the VM with VO engaged but I find it works 
>>> better with VO off and just activate it when you need it.
>>> 
>>> Good luck.
>>> 
>>> 
 On Oct 24, 2016, at 7:25 PM, Ramy Moustafa  
 wrote:
 
 Hello all:
 I have my MacBook 2015 13 inch, the only windows app that i need is called 
 sibelius for writing down my music notes.
 i installed Vmware v7.5 with windows 7 64 bitand i have only 2 issues:
 1- after i start up my windows,  i can not do anything until i tern off my 
 Voice over, is it regular?
 2-  i gave to Vmware Fusion a very goo dram about 6 Gb, but my windows is 
 so heavy, do i miss something inside the settings to make the windows runs 
 smoothly while using it?
 note that i will not use both systems at the same time, so i need to give 
 all my mac power  to windows while using
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Re: Saving a document under many folders, and input short cut

[Andrew Lamanche]

I had some difficulty with it too initially.

Make sure you interact with the second column in the second table.  The first 
column just tells you whether the checkbox is checked or not.  The second 
column tells you what the shortcut currently is.  You need to interact with the 
cell first and move once to the right to land on the textedit field with the 
shortcut currently in place.  Voiceover should say "selected" and then you 
press the new shortcut key combination.  Move away and back to the same field 
to confirm the new shortcut.

Let me know if you succeed.

Andrew
> On 25 Oct 2016, at 09:52, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
> 
> Hello
>> On:
> Ok  I know from where can i choose a short cut, but i can not change the 
> short cut for the input source, i followed the procedures  but nothing.  so, 
> can anyone tell em, how can i change the short cut for this/
>> Oct 25, 2016, at 7:44 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> The command to change your input source can be changed in System 
>> Preferences, Keyboard, Shortcuts. Select Input Sources in the first table, 
>> then go to the next table and change the shortcuts.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 25 Oct 2016, at 00:49, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello all:
>>> I have 2 questions:
>>> 1- if i need to save a document from pages or text edit, on my downloads 
>>> but not on the root of my downloads, let’s say that i created a folder 
>>> inside downloads called docs, and i need to save y document inside it, 
>>> There is no way to do this from pages or text edit, i have only to choose 
>>> the root place, like downloads, iCloud etc, do you have a solution?
>>> 2- i need to find a short cut to make me switch between 2 input sources on 
>>> keyboard, i’m now using the input menu, can i find  something easier?
>>> Thanks
>>> 
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Re: VMware with MacBook 2015

[Ramy Moustafa]

Hello:
ok, but if i choose any other language other than English, some system short 
cuts like Vo+M are not working, is it usual?
Thanks
> On Oct 25, 2016, at 10:22 AM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
> 
> can I just ask a quick somewhat off-topic question regarding the cores 
> assigned to the virtual machine?  I have a macbook pro 13 inch 2014 with 16GB 
> RAM and I7 processor.  Does this mean I could assign easily 4 cores to 
> Windows in VMWare Fusion?
> 
> I've always had a bit of trouble understanding the subject of cores and 
> virtual cores and threading for that matter. :)
> 
> Many thanks
> 
> Andrew
>> On 25 Oct 2016, at 00:30, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi there, one thing you can do is make sure you have enough cores dedicated. 
>>  On a 13 inch MacBook pro I’d probably go 4 GB for the VM and at least 2 
>> cores for the CPU.  Remember it’s 2 cores in software per every real core do 
>> to hyper threading.  If you have the I5 processor then you have 2 cores so 
>> you could bump up to 4 but it will impact the Mac side.  It’s a nice little 
>> power house though so you should be fine.  Also wait a minute after windows 
>> boots as the boot process is a real drain on resources.
>> 
>> As for voice over, you can use the VM with VO engaged but I find it works 
>> better with VO off and just activate it when you need it.
>> 
>> Good luck.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 24, 2016, at 7:25 PM, Ramy Moustafa  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello all:
>>> I have my MacBook 2015 13 inch, the only windows app that i need is called 
>>> sibelius for writing down my music notes.
>>> i installed Vmware v7.5 with windows 7 64 bitand i have only 2 issues:
>>> 1- after i start up my windows,  i can not do anything until i tern off my 
>>> Voice over, is it regular?
>>> 2-  i gave to Vmware Fusion a very goo dram about 6 Gb, but my windows is 
>>> so heavy, do i miss something inside the settings to make the windows runs 
>>> smoothly while using it?
>>> note that i will not use both systems at the same time, so i need to give 
>>> all my mac power  to windows while using
>>> THanks
>>> 
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RE: T-Mobile carrier update available

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Scott,
Thanks for the update alert,

Will have to wait till tomorrow now to do watch and mba as time to sleep

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Tuesday, 25 October 2016 10:06 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: T-Mobile carrier update available

Hi Mary, this is for all customers not just the beta as it was sent over the 
air, not as part of the download package.

Daniel, as for whether it’s for the iPhone 6, I am not sure of that.  Most 
carriers unify their iPhone releases but with the fractured state of modems on 
GSM networks now I am not sure.  I am using an iPhone 7+ for reference.

Thank you

On Oct 24, 2016, at 4:32 PM, Mary Otten 
> wrote:

This might be for people using the beta and not for people not using the beta. 
I am using the beta, and I just checked and the update was there.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 24, 2016, at 1:21 PM, Daniel C 
> wrote:
Are you sure this carrier update is for all iPhone's? Or for certain one's?
I have an iPhone 6 and the update didn't install for my phone, which is an 
iPhone 6 on T-Mobile.

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RE: T-Mobile carrier update available

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Mary,

I’m not using the beta but there is an update for my 7+.

Approx. 250 MB  of update.


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Subject: Re: T-Mobile carrier update available

This might be for people using the beta and not for people not using the beta. 
I am using the beta, and I just checked and the update was there.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 24, 2016, at 1:21 PM, Daniel C 
> wrote:
Are you sure this carrier update is for all iPhone's? Or for certain one's?
I have an iPhone 6 and the update didn't install for my phone, which is an 
iPhone 6 on T-Mobile.
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Re: Saving a document under many folders, and input short cut

[Ramy Moustafa]

Hello
> On:
Ok  I know from where can i choose a short cut, but i can not change the short 
cut for the input source, i followed the procedures  but nothing.  so, can 
anyone tell em, how can i change the short cut for this/
> Oct 25, 2016, at 7:44 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
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> Hello,
> 
> The command to change your input source can be changed in System Preferences, 
> Keyboard, Shortcuts. Select Input Sources in the first table, then go to the 
> next table and change the shortcuts.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> 
>> On 25 Oct 2016, at 00:49, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello all:
>> I have 2 questions:
>> 1- if i need to save a document from pages or text edit, on my downloads but 
>> not on the root of my downloads, let’s say that i created a folder inside 
>> downloads called docs, and i need to save y document inside it, There is no 
>> way to do this from pages or text edit, i have only to choose the root 
>> place, like downloads, iCloud etc, do you have a solution?
>> 2- i need to find a short cut to make me switch between 2 input sources on 
>> keyboard, i’m now using the input menu, can i find  something easier?
>> Thanks
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Re: VMware with MacBook 2015

[Andrew Lamanche]

can I just ask a quick somewhat off-topic question regarding the cores assigned 
to the virtual machine?  I have a macbook pro 13 inch 2014 with 16GB RAM and I7 
processor.  Does this mean I could assign easily 4 cores to Windows in VMWare 
Fusion?

I've always had a bit of trouble understanding the subject of cores and virtual 
cores and threading for that matter. :)

Many thanks

Andrew
> On 25 Oct 2016, at 00:30, Scott Granados  wrote:
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> Hi there, one thing you can do is make sure you have enough cores dedicated.  
> On a 13 inch MacBook pro I’d probably go 4 GB for the VM and at least 2 cores 
> for the CPU.  Remember it’s 2 cores in software per every real core do to 
> hyper threading.  If you have the I5 processor then you have 2 cores so you 
> could bump up to 4 but it will impact the Mac side.  It’s a nice little power 
> house though so you should be fine.  Also wait a minute after windows boots 
> as the boot process is a real drain on resources.
> 
> As for voice over, you can use the VM with VO engaged but I find it works 
> better with VO off and just activate it when you need it.
> 
> Good luck.
> 
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>> Hello all:
>> I have my MacBook 2015 13 inch, the only windows app that i need is called 
>> sibelius for writing down my music notes.
>> i installed Vmware v7.5 with windows 7 64 bitand i have only 2 issues:
>> 1- after i start up my windows,  i can not do anything until i tern off my 
>> Voice over, is it regular?
>> 2-  i gave to Vmware Fusion a very goo dram about 6 Gb, but my windows is so 
>> heavy, do i miss something inside the settings to make the windows runs 
>> smoothly while using it?
>> note that i will not use both systems at the same time, so i need to give 
>> all my mac power  to windows while using
>> THanks
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Re: Formatting a document in pages

[Andrew Lamanche]

In addition to what Anne said on formatting, your second issue of changing 
input language from Arabic to English using the default shortcut 
command+spacebar, you need to change this as it clashes with the spotlight 
shortcut keys.   Go to system preferences, choose "keyboard", choose 
"shortcuts" tab, and in the first table choose "input sources" and in the 
second table change the shortcut to something else.  Make sure it doesn't clash 
with any other shortcuts.  I usually check this by invoking the "keyboard help" 
with vo+k and then try my shortcut combination. You quit the "keyboard help" by 
pressing escape.

Hope this will help.

Andrew
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> Hello,
> 
> All the formatting information is in the scroll area of the Formatter.
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> 
>> On 24 Oct 2016, at 23:57, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
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>> Hello all:
>> I think i can find the solution, i found all the formatter etc, inside the 
>> tool bar.
>> so, it’s ok now, but my big issue that i searched but can not find a 
>> solution is the input source, i need to change my input source between 
>> arabic and english keyboard, pressing Command space opens the spot lite, so, 
>> how can i switch  between he 2 languages?
>> Thanks
>> 
>>> On Oct 24, 2016, at 9:59 PM, Ramy Moustafa  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello all:
>>> I start Reading the My mac pages, and i created a new document, and i 
>>> checked the document setup inside the inspector under the view menu, but i 
>>> followed the book, it said  that i will find a place to choose the page 
>>> size, printer name etc, i can’t find this menu at all. did i miss something?
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>> 
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Re: Alternative radio apps for the mac?

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
It works but you can not bring up the menu with vo m in the app.
However there’s an more options button you can use and thats why i am using it.
/A
> 22 okt. 2016 kl. 19:39 skrev Mary Otten :
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> Hi all,
> I was surprised to read about this problem with Radium. I have Sierra on my 
> Mac. And I have used Radium successfully recently. I do have an alias for 
> radium on my desktop. Maybe that's why it still works for me.
> Mary
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>> On Oct 21, 2016, at 11:41 PM, christopher hallsworth 
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>> So now we’ve discovered a possible critical bug in the latest Radium for mac 
>> where the menu bar cannot be invoked with VO-m and instead closes it, are 
>> there any alternatives besides My Tuner Radio? Asking as have tried this, 
>> and I think for someone new to the mac, expecting them to route the mouse 
>> pointer to the VO cursor and clicking it is all too much for them at this 
>> stage. At least that’s been my experience when opening My Tuner Radio from 
>> the menu extras. Thanks for any offers.
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Re: Radium possible bug

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Confirmed here too.
HOw do we get in touch with them?
/A
> 22 okt. 2016 kl. 08:20 skrev christopher hallsworth :
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> Confirmed. Not good. Was going to put this app on my girlfriend’s first ever 
> mac, may have second thoughts about this now.
> 
> 
>> On 22 Oct 2016, at 02:35, aliFaisal  wrote:
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>> Hello all,
>> so I was in radium today and found that I was no longer able to do a VO m 
>> command to get to the menu. Can anyone confirm this?
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Re: Downloading voices in Sierra

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Infact i use Oliver compact.
Its good for my ears but this is the English one i use.
There’s one named Klara in swedish and she is great.
/A
> 22 okt. 2016 kl. 08:16 skrev christopher hallsworth :
> 
> Alex all the way for me.
> 
> 
>> On 22 Oct 2016, at 04:19, Kevin Chao  wrote:
>> 
>> Which Mac voices do VoiceOver users prefer to download?
>> 
>> On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 9:14 AM Scott Granados  
>> wrote:
>> Phil, it depends on how many voices you’re pulling down.  I’ve seen this 
>> take from 30 seconds on the fast side to over an hour on the slow.  I would 
>> wait a while longer and see if you get anywhere.
>> 
>> I’m also assuming your downloading these over a normal provider and not 
>> cellular service.  Some services limit the size of downloads.
>> 
>>> On Oct 14, 2016, at 11:43 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I've set several voices to download in the voice over utilities, but they 
>>> seem to be stuck in the "waiting to download"status. Is it normal for them 
>>> to be in the hold status for an hour or more? I have my MacBook air on 
>>> power with Wi-Fi connected.
>>> 
>>> 
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Even in iOS 10.1 the iBook VoiceOver Continuous Reading Bug Continues

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

A while ago I posted to the groups describing what I consider to be an iBook
VoiceOver continuous reading bug given that the behavior did not occur in
previous versions of iOS.  

After posting, a couple of iOS beta testers reported that this issue had
been resolved in iOS 10.1.  

Well, as you can guess, I updated to iOS 10.1 and the bug, in my opinion,
persists.  

I am going to paste in a modified copy of my previous post on this and see
if any of you can reproduce it in iOS 10.1.

[ORIGINAL TEXT]
My preferred method for reading iOS iBook titles is to use the two-finger,
swipe-down VoiceOver gesture, in order to initiate continuous reading of the
text.  Please note that I am not referring to the Speak Screen accessibility
feature.

In short, my display is set to automatically lock after 30 seconds.  In the
previous versions of IOS, performing a 2-finger swipe down, in an iBook
title, would suspend the auto-lock and allow for continuous reading of the
text.  This does not appear to be the case, any longer.

This is to say, in certain titles, such as those containing imbedded
hyperlinks, the auto-lock engages, cancelling the continuous reading mode.

I first discovered this, last night, while reading the Apple TV User Guide.
The same phenomenon occurred when I tested my hypothesis with the iPhone
User Guide for iOS 10 and iPhone User Guide for iOS 9.3.  

At first, I thought it was some kind of issue with titles produced by Apple
but I tested a recently published (non Apple) title, that has a web link
imbedded in the text, and, just as with the Apple manuals, after less than 1
minute, the screen locked and reading ceased.  

It should be noted, that the hyperlinks that exist in the Table of Contents,
used to jump to a specific area, does not cause interruption to the
continuous reading feature.  I say this because titles in my Library,
containing only such links, read as expected.

Steps to Reproduce:

1.
>From Settings/General/Display and Brightness, set Auto Lock to 30 seconds.

2.
In iBook, open the Apple TV User Guide and, from the table of contents,
select Home Sharing; or, open the iPhone User Guide for iOS 10 and, from the
table of contents, select Basics.

3.
Once the desired page is displayed, perform the two-finger swipe-down
VoiceOver gesture to initiate continuous reading.  

As I said, in my testing, each time either an imbedded hyperlink or heading
is encountered, a short time later, the screen will lock and reading will
stop.  

Please confirm if this occurs during your testing.

I would like to note that, this problem does not occur when using the Speak
Screen accessibility feature.  While certainly useful in some instances, the
Speak Screen feature is not my preferred method for reading iBook titles.  

Mark


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Setting up iCloud settings issues after installing IOS 10.1

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Hi all! How are yu all? So I install the IOS 10.1 on my iPhone 6s. I'm having 
issues in setting up my icloud settings. ICloud key chain is off in all  my 
devices. I do have enable two-factor authentication. It tells me waiting for 
approveal. It tells me that ineed to approve my iPhone 6S. It tells me to 
logging to icloud in order to approve my iPhone, and I did, but I don't know 
hwo to approve it and so on. Any suggestions in how can I fix this? I really 
want to set my icloud settings. I look forward in hearing from you soon. Thanks 
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Re: Anything new, good or bad, related to voiceover in the new update for Sierra

[Shawn Krasniuk]

Hi Mary. I'm not experiencing any major Voiceover issues here. Although when my 
screen goes to sleep Voiceover says Authentication, Login Panel, User, 
Authentication has new window. This has never happened in previous versions of 
Sierra but has started with this beta cycle. I can't figure out why it does 
this. I don't have a password and I don't have it set to require a password 
after wake. I don't have a screensaver either but it's as if it's treating 
whatever this is as a screensaver. Maybe it has something to do with the Unlock 
With Watch feature but I doubt it because my Mac is too old for that feature.

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> On Oct 24, 2016, at 11:12 PM, Michael Marshall  
> wrote:
> 
> The serie bug where it does not read your message if you ask to post to 
> Twitter is still there.
>> On 25 Oct. 2016, at 9:48 am, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> 
>> I haven’t noticed anything sideways with the new release.  I am noticing for 
>> example the unlock with watch feature is far more reliable and some small 
>> things like that.  Also very stable but nothing pro or conn accessibility 
>> wise.  I don’t recall the post off hand to comment on the specific issue.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>>> On Oct 24, 2016, at 6:40 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> On one of these two lists, and I don't remember which one, there was a 
>>> cryptic comment not too long ago from someone saying that they were unhappy 
>>> with something about the Sierra beta, which is now the official Sierra 
>>> update. Because they were running a beta, they didn't want to comment on 
>>> what the thing was that they didn't like that had to do with excess 
>>> ability. I haven't installed the update yet, and I'm curious what people 
>>> have noticed, good or bad who have installed the latest update.
>>> 
>>> 
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