Re: iTunes and the file menu

2019-03-05 Thread Petrus Tuerlings
Hi,
That didn’t work, I pressed VO M while I was in iTunes and it just opens the 
same menu it opens from anywhere. But if I do command comma  it opens the 
preferences specific to that App. 

> On 6/03/2019, at 9:50 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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> 
> Petrus,
>   The menu bar will show menus specific to an app. So use VO plus m in any 
> app you are in..
> 
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> On 3/5/2019 12:42 PM, Petrus Tuerlings wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> Someone replied to Simon yesterday and said he could go into the file menu 
>> in iTunes to. Turn on family sharing. I deleted that message and couldn’t 
>> find it in my bin folder.
>> Silly question, but how does one find the file menu in iTunes on the Mac?
>> Thanks
>> Sent from Petrus' MacBook
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Re: iTunes and the file menu

2019-03-05 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries

Petrus,
   The menu bar will show menus specific to an app. So use VO plus m in 
any app you are in..


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   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
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On 3/5/2019 12:42 PM, Petrus Tuerlings wrote:

Hi all,
Someone replied to Simon yesterday and said he could go into the file 
menu in iTunes to. Turn on family sharing. I deleted that message and 
couldn’t find it in my bin folder.

Silly question, but how does one find the file menu in iTunes on the Mac?
Thanks
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iTunes and the file menu

2019-03-05 Thread Petrus Tuerlings
Hi all,
Someone replied to Simon yesterday and said he could go into the file menu in 
iTunes to. Turn on family sharing. I deleted that message and couldn’t find it 
in my bin folder. 
Silly question, but how does one find the file menu in iTunes on the Mac?
Thanks 
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RE: Ripping CDs into iTunes

2019-02-25 Thread Simon Fogarty
Hi Petrus,

No it shouldn’t disappear from your phone if you cancel the music subscription.

Anything you own or manually add to your itunes music collection should stay on 
your device so long as you have it in your music library and the space on the 
device.
Anything you listen to from apple music wil disappear if you haven’t paid for 
it.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
Sent: Tuesday, 26 February 2019 7:26 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Ripping CDs into iTunes

Hi all,
I just started copying all of my CDs into iTunes on the Mac. Must admit it is a 
million times easier then doing it with iTunes on a windows machine. My 
question is: Once I’ve finished ripping the CD it appears in my music App on my 
iPhone along with a download button. I’m guessing this is happening because I’m 
subscribed to Apple Music? If I download the album that has shown up in my 
music app on the phone, will it vanish from the iPhone if I cancel my 
subscription to Apple Music even though it is the same album I copied from my 
CD onto my Mac? Or should I be transferring the copied album from my Mac to the 
iPhone directly so I don’t need to download it?
Hope this question made sense?
Thank you,
Petrus
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Re: Ripping CDs into iTunes

2019-02-25 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi,

Regarding whether iTunes recognizes a CD or not, usually does not have anything 
to do with the seller of the CD.  If the seller in question created their own, 
non-sanctioned, version of the artist's album, then you may have a point.  If 
all they did is burn cheap copies of it and passed them off as originals, then 
iTunes wouldn't care.

With respect to iTunes Match, it is a separate service.  No, you do not need to 
have it at the same time as Apple Music.  iTunes Match gives you the iCloud 
Music Library, lets you upload all your ripped music into the Cloud, matches 
music with Apple's versions where possible, and allows you to download/play 
iTunes high quality versions of the songs.  When/if you terminate your iTunes 
Match subscription, you get to retain those matched versions of the songs and 
they are not encoded with any major copy protection like Apple Music does.  You 
can subscribe to both, although some would deem that redundant or a waste of 
money.  iTunes Match is just a yearly subscription, so is much less expensive 
too.  In Canada, it's $27.99 a year as opposed to $10 or $15 a month for Apple 
Music single or family subscriptions respectively.

HTH.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Feb 25, 2019, at 16:15, Petrus Tuerlings  wrote:

Hi Tim, 
Thank you for the explanation. So can I ask more about the iTunes Matching 
Service? Is this a service we need to subscribe to as well? Or is it part of 
Apple Music?
Hi Karen,
Ask what ever you like from the back of the class, all questions help with our 
knowledge.
On a slightly different note. I got one of my CDs to rip into iTunes, but when 
I put it in my DVD drive iTunes didn’t recognise  the album. I paid good money 
for it quite a few years ago,  so it is not a copy. However  I did get it from 
a retail store here in NZ that deals in a lot of  cheeper products. I wonder 
about their supplier sometimes. I  Don’t want to mention their name as Simon 
will know who I’m talking about. Especially if I mention that their trade mark 
colour is red.

> On 26/02/2019, at 10:30 AM, Karen Lewellen  <mailto:klewel...@shellworld.net>> wrote:
> 
> Hi Tim,
> Oh understood now...not that it impacts my reaction over much. Substituting  
> one performance regardless of which way   still makes me shutter, smiles.
> Kare
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, 25 Feb 2019, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> 
>> Hi Karen,
>> 
>> Actually, it substitutes live for an original studio version at times.  
>> Sorry if my wording was confusing.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Feb 25, 2019, at 13:04, Karen Lewellen > <mailto:klewel...@shellworld.net>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Tim,
>> That explanation  you provided is   fine thanks.
>> That the system sometimes substitutes studio for  live performances has the 
>> collector in me shuttering!  all the more reason  to not only keep ripped  
>> copies, but for me at least, to keep my stereo and my collections happy.
>> Kare
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, 25 Feb 2019, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Karen,
>>> 
>>> The easy answer is, "Sort of".  Apple Music is far from perfect.  As far as 
>>> I can tell, it does a comparison of the title, the artist, the time  and 
>>> some digital comparisons to match things.  The digital comparisons are to 
>>> ensure that the song is actually what you say it is.  We would not want you 
>>> to have a copy of Kind of a Hush mislabelled as Ticket to Ride, thus giving 
>>> you an possibly incorrect song and possibly invalid copy of the song.  The 
>>> other comparisons don't always work perfectly either, although they do a 
>>> pretty good job.  Normally, the rules are that if Apple can't find the 
>>> song, it will leave your uploaded copy alone.  Sometimes though, I've 
>>> noticed that it substitutes a live version of a song for the studio 
>>> version.  There are things you can do to fix this mismatch, but it still 
>>> was a mismatch.  I tend to keep a backup copy of my ripped music just in 
>>> case I need to tweak these sorts of errors.
>>> 
>>> So, as you can see, the answer is not particularly straight forward.  At 
>>> least in my experience.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On Feb 25, 2019, at 12:17, Karen Lewellen >> <mailto:klewel...@shellworld.net>> wr

Re: Ripping CDs into iTunes

2019-02-25 Thread Petrus Tuerlings
Hi Tim, 
Thank you for the explanation. So can I ask more about the iTunes Matching 
Service? Is this a service we need to subscribe to as well? Or is it part of 
Apple Music?
Hi Karen,
Ask what ever you like from the back of the class, all questions help with our 
knowledge.
On a slightly different note. I got one of my CDs to rip into iTunes, but when 
I put it in my DVD drive iTunes didn’t recognise  the album. I paid good money 
for it quite a few years ago,  so it is not a copy. However  I did get it from 
a retail store here in NZ that deals in a lot of  cheeper products. I wonder 
about their supplier sometimes. I  Don’t want to mention their name as Simon 
will know who I’m talking about. Especially if I mention that their trade mark 
colour is red.

> On 26/02/2019, at 10:30 AM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
> 
> Hi Tim,
> Oh understood now...not that it impacts my reaction over much. Substituting  
> one performance regardless of which way   still makes me shutter, smiles.
> Kare
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, 25 Feb 2019, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> 
>> Hi Karen,
>> 
>> Actually, it substitutes live for an original studio version at times.  
>> Sorry if my wording was confusing.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Feb 25, 2019, at 13:04, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Tim,
>> That explanation  you provided is   fine thanks.
>> That the system sometimes substitutes studio for  live performances has the 
>> collector in me shuttering!  all the more reason  to not only keep ripped  
>> copies, but for me at least, to keep my stereo and my collections happy.
>> Kare
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, 25 Feb 2019, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Karen,
>>> 
>>> The easy answer is, "Sort of".  Apple Music is far from perfect.  As far as 
>>> I can tell, it does a comparison of the title, the artist, the time  and 
>>> some digital comparisons to match things.  The digital comparisons are to 
>>> ensure that the song is actually what you say it is.  We would not want you 
>>> to have a copy of Kind of a Hush mislabelled as Ticket to Ride, thus giving 
>>> you an possibly incorrect song and possibly invalid copy of the song.  The 
>>> other comparisons don't always work perfectly either, although they do a 
>>> pretty good job.  Normally, the rules are that if Apple can't find the 
>>> song, it will leave your uploaded copy alone.  Sometimes though, I've 
>>> noticed that it substitutes a live version of a song for the studio 
>>> version.  There are things you can do to fix this mismatch, but it still 
>>> was a mismatch.  I tend to keep a backup copy of my ripped music just in 
>>> case I need to tweak these sorts of errors.
>>> 
>>> So, as you can see, the answer is not particularly straight forward.  At 
>>> least in my experience.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On Feb 25, 2019, at 12:17, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Tim,
>>> Question from the back of the class.
>>> You say that  if a title  exists in Apple music, that instead of uploading 
>>> your ripped edition, that title simply becomes usable and downloadable for 
>>> you.  How  exact is this choice?
>>> For example if you rip  Ticket to ride by the carpenters from your cd copy 
>>> of offerings, which is rare, and Apple music has ticket to ride by the 
>>> carpenters from say  the remastered cd called ticket to ride, which is the 
>>> same song but not the same  arrangement, will Apple music simply substitute 
>>> what they have instead? even if not what you ripped?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Kare
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, 25 Feb 2019, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> Nothing ever "disappears" from your devices.  What happens with Apple 
>>>> Music is that an iCloud Music Library is created on your behalf.  So all 
>>>> your content, including playlists is copied up to iCloud for syncing 
>>>> across all your devices.  So, copies of the music you've ripped are either 
>>>> uploaded to that iCloud Music Library, or if Apple has that same title in 
>>>> their library, it is simply marked as usable and downloadable by you. 

Re: Ripping CDs into iTunes

2019-02-25 Thread Karen Lewellen

Hi Tim,
Oh understood now...not that it impacts my reaction over much. 
Substituting  one performance regardless of which way   still makes me 
shutter, smiles.

Kare



On Mon, 25 Feb 2019, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:


Hi Karen,

Actually, it substitutes live for an original studio version at times.  Sorry 
if my wording was confusing.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Feb 25, 2019, at 13:04, Karen Lewellen  wrote:

Hi Tim,
That explanation  you provided is   fine thanks.
That the system sometimes substitutes studio for  live performances has the 
collector in me shuttering!  all the more reason  to not only keep ripped  
copies, but for me at least, to keep my stereo and my collections happy.
Kare



On Mon, 25 Feb 2019, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:


Hi Karen,

The easy answer is, "Sort of".  Apple Music is far from perfect.  As far as I 
can tell, it does a comparison of the title, the artist, the time  and some digital 
comparisons to match things.  The digital comparisons are to ensure that the song is 
actually what you say it is.  We would not want you to have a copy of Kind of a Hush 
mislabelled as Ticket to Ride, thus giving you an possibly incorrect song and possibly 
invalid copy of the song.  The other comparisons don't always work perfectly either, 
although they do a pretty good job.  Normally, the rules are that if Apple can't find the 
song, it will leave your uploaded copy alone.  Sometimes though, I've noticed that it 
substitutes a live version of a song for the studio version.  There are things you can do 
to fix this mismatch, but it still was a mismatch.  I tend to keep a backup copy of my 
ripped music just in case I need to tweak these sorts of errors.

So, as you can see, the answer is not particularly straight forward.  At least 
in my experience.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Feb 25, 2019, at 12:17, Karen Lewellen  wrote:

Hi Tim,
Question from the back of the class.
You say that  if a title  exists in Apple music, that instead of uploading your 
ripped edition, that title simply becomes usable and downloadable for you.  How 
 exact is this choice?
For example if you rip  Ticket to ride by the carpenters from your cd copy of 
offerings, which is rare, and Apple music has ticket to ride by the carpenters 
from say  the remastered cd called ticket to ride, which is the same song but 
not the same  arrangement, will Apple music simply substitute what they have 
instead?  even if not what you ripped?
Thanks,
Kare



On Mon, 25 Feb 2019, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:


Hi,

Nothing ever "disappears" from your devices.  What happens with Apple Music is that an 
iCloud Music Library is created on your behalf.  So all your content, including playlists is copied 
up to iCloud for syncing across all your devices.  So, copies of the music you've ripped are either 
uploaded to that iCloud Music Library, or if Apple has that same title in their library, it is 
simply marked as usable and downloadable by you.  This saves on Cloud space as titles that Apple 
has in their own library do not need to be stored tons of times by tons of users.  Keeping this in 
mind, it is important to keep a local copy of your ripped music, as Apple downloads an "Apple 
Music" encoded version of the song, which is great as long as you remain an Apple Music 
customer.  When you terminate your Apple Music subscription, you retain the downloaded copies, but 
because they are Apple Music encoded, you will lose the ability to play them after a bit of time.  
Because you've kept the local copy on your Mac, those titles won't be affected by the Apple Music 
limitations, but the iPhone downloaded versions will.

the iTunes Match service also creates an iCloud Music Library but does not have 
the Apple Music restrictions when you terminate the service.  I love the 
ability to have the same library across all my devices, so love both the Apple 
Music and iTunes Match services.  there are benefits and limitations to both.

Back to your original question, no you won't lose that music, but you may need 
to copy it over again from your Mac if and when you do so.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Feb 25, 2019, at 11:25, Petrus Tuerlings  wrote:

Hi all,
I just started copying all of my CDs into iTunes on the Mac. Must admit it is a 
million times easier then doing it with iTunes on a windows machine. My 
question is: Once I???ve finished ripping the CD it appears in my music App on 
my iPhone along with a download button. I???m guessing this is happening 
because I???m subscribed to Apple Music? If I download the album that has shown 
up in my music app on the phone, will it vanish from the iPhone if I cancel my 
subscription to Apple Music even though

Re: Ripping CDs into iTunes

2019-02-25 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi Karen,

Actually, it substitutes live for an original studio version at times.  Sorry 
if my wording was confusing.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Feb 25, 2019, at 13:04, Karen Lewellen  wrote:

Hi Tim,
That explanation  you provided is   fine thanks.
That the system sometimes substitutes studio for  live performances has the 
collector in me shuttering!  all the more reason  to not only keep ripped  
copies, but for me at least, to keep my stereo and my collections happy.
Kare



On Mon, 25 Feb 2019, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:

> Hi Karen,
> 
> The easy answer is, "Sort of".  Apple Music is far from perfect.  As far as I 
> can tell, it does a comparison of the title, the artist, the time  and some 
> digital comparisons to match things.  The digital comparisons are to ensure 
> that the song is actually what you say it is.  We would not want you to have 
> a copy of Kind of a Hush mislabelled as Ticket to Ride, thus giving you an 
> possibly incorrect song and possibly invalid copy of the song.  The other 
> comparisons don't always work perfectly either, although they do a pretty 
> good job.  Normally, the rules are that if Apple can't find the song, it will 
> leave your uploaded copy alone.  Sometimes though, I've noticed that it 
> substitutes a live version of a song for the studio version.  There are 
> things you can do to fix this mismatch, but it still was a mismatch.  I tend 
> to keep a backup copy of my ripped music just in case I need to tweak these 
> sorts of errors.
> 
> So, as you can see, the answer is not particularly straight forward.  At 
> least in my experience.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Feb 25, 2019, at 12:17, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
> 
> Hi Tim,
> Question from the back of the class.
> You say that  if a title  exists in Apple music, that instead of uploading 
> your ripped edition, that title simply becomes usable and downloadable for 
> you.  How  exact is this choice?
> For example if you rip  Ticket to ride by the carpenters from your cd copy of 
> offerings, which is rare, and Apple music has ticket to ride by the 
> carpenters from say  the remastered cd called ticket to ride, which is the 
> same song but not the same  arrangement, will Apple music simply substitute 
> what they have instead?  even if not what you ripped?
> Thanks,
> Kare
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, 25 Feb 2019, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Nothing ever "disappears" from your devices.  What happens with Apple Music 
>> is that an iCloud Music Library is created on your behalf.  So all your 
>> content, including playlists is copied up to iCloud for syncing across all 
>> your devices.  So, copies of the music you've ripped are either uploaded to 
>> that iCloud Music Library, or if Apple has that same title in their library, 
>> it is simply marked as usable and downloadable by you.  This saves on Cloud 
>> space as titles that Apple has in their own library do not need to be stored 
>> tons of times by tons of users.  Keeping this in mind, it is important to 
>> keep a local copy of your ripped music, as Apple downloads an "Apple Music" 
>> encoded version of the song, which is great as long as you remain an Apple 
>> Music customer.  When you terminate your Apple Music subscription, you 
>> retain the downloaded copies, but because they are Apple Music encoded, you 
>> will lose the ability to play them after a bit of time.  Because you've kept 
>> the local copy on your Mac, those titles won't be affected by the Apple 
>> Music limitations, but the iPhone downloaded versions will.
>> 
>> the iTunes Match service also creates an iCloud Music Library but does not 
>> have the Apple Music restrictions when you terminate the service.  I love 
>> the ability to have the same library across all my devices, so love both the 
>> Apple Music and iTunes Match services.  there are benefits and limitations 
>> to both.
>> 
>> Back to your original question, no you won't lose that music, but you may 
>> need to copy it over again from your Mac if and when you do so.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Feb 25, 2019, at 11:25, Petrus Tuerlings  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> I just started copying all of my CDs into iTunes on the Mac. Must admit it 
>> is a million times easier then doing it with iTunes on a windows machine. My 
>> 

Re: Ripping CDs into iTunes

2019-02-25 Thread Karen Lewellen

Hi Tim,
That explanation  you provided is   fine thanks.
That the system sometimes substitutes studio for  live performances has 
the collector in me shuttering!  all the more reason  to not only keep 
ripped  copies, but for me at least, to keep my stereo and my collections 
happy.

Kare



On Mon, 25 Feb 2019, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:


Hi Karen,

The easy answer is, "Sort of".  Apple Music is far from perfect.  As far as I 
can tell, it does a comparison of the title, the artist, the time  and some digital 
comparisons to match things.  The digital comparisons are to ensure that the song is 
actually what you say it is.  We would not want you to have a copy of Kind of a Hush 
mislabelled as Ticket to Ride, thus giving you an possibly incorrect song and possibly 
invalid copy of the song.  The other comparisons don't always work perfectly either, 
although they do a pretty good job.  Normally, the rules are that if Apple can't find the 
song, it will leave your uploaded copy alone.  Sometimes though, I've noticed that it 
substitutes a live version of a song for the studio version.  There are things you can do 
to fix this mismatch, but it still was a mismatch.  I tend to keep a backup copy of my 
ripped music just in case I need to tweak these sorts of errors.

So, as you can see, the answer is not particularly straight forward.  At least 
in my experience.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Feb 25, 2019, at 12:17, Karen Lewellen  wrote:

Hi Tim,
Question from the back of the class.
You say that  if a title  exists in Apple music, that instead of uploading your 
ripped edition, that title simply becomes usable and downloadable for you.  How 
 exact is this choice?
For example if you rip  Ticket to ride by the carpenters from your cd copy of 
offerings, which is rare, and Apple music has ticket to ride by the carpenters 
from say  the remastered cd called ticket to ride, which is the same song but 
not the same  arrangement, will Apple music simply substitute what they have 
instead?  even if not what you ripped?
Thanks,
Kare



On Mon, 25 Feb 2019, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:


Hi,

Nothing ever "disappears" from your devices.  What happens with Apple Music is that an 
iCloud Music Library is created on your behalf.  So all your content, including playlists is copied 
up to iCloud for syncing across all your devices.  So, copies of the music you've ripped are either 
uploaded to that iCloud Music Library, or if Apple has that same title in their library, it is 
simply marked as usable and downloadable by you.  This saves on Cloud space as titles that Apple 
has in their own library do not need to be stored tons of times by tons of users.  Keeping this in 
mind, it is important to keep a local copy of your ripped music, as Apple downloads an "Apple 
Music" encoded version of the song, which is great as long as you remain an Apple Music 
customer.  When you terminate your Apple Music subscription, you retain the downloaded copies, but 
because they are Apple Music encoded, you will lose the ability to play them after a bit of time.  
Because you've kept the local copy on your Mac, those titles won't be affected by the Apple Music 
limitations, but the iPhone downloaded versions will.

the iTunes Match service also creates an iCloud Music Library but does not have 
the Apple Music restrictions when you terminate the service.  I love the 
ability to have the same library across all my devices, so love both the Apple 
Music and iTunes Match services.  there are benefits and limitations to both.

Back to your original question, no you won't lose that music, but you may need 
to copy it over again from your Mac if and when you do so.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Feb 25, 2019, at 11:25, Petrus Tuerlings  wrote:

Hi all,
I just started copying all of my CDs into iTunes on the Mac. Must admit it is a 
million times easier then doing it with iTunes on a windows machine. My 
question is: Once I???ve finished ripping the CD it appears in my music App on 
my iPhone along with a download button. I???m guessing this is happening 
because I???m subscribed to Apple Music? If I download the album that has shown 
up in my music app on the phone, will it vanish from the iPhone if I cancel my 
subscription to Apple Music even though it is the same album I copied from my 
CD onto my Mac? Or should I be transferring the copied album from my Mac to the 
iPhone directly so I don???t need to download it?
Hope this question made sense?
Thank you,
Petrus
Sent from Petrus' MacBook


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Re: Ripping CDs into iTunes

2019-02-25 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi Karen,

The easy answer is, "Sort of".  Apple Music is far from perfect.  As far as I 
can tell, it does a comparison of the title, the artist, the time  and some 
digital comparisons to match things.  The digital comparisons are to ensure 
that the song is actually what you say it is.  We would not want you to have a 
copy of Kind of a Hush mislabelled as Ticket to Ride, thus giving you an 
possibly incorrect song and possibly invalid copy of the song.  The other 
comparisons don't always work perfectly either, although they do a pretty good 
job.  Normally, the rules are that if Apple can't find the song, it will leave 
your uploaded copy alone.  Sometimes though, I've noticed that it substitutes a 
live version of a song for the studio version.  There are things you can do to 
fix this mismatch, but it still was a mismatch.  I tend to keep a backup copy 
of my ripped music just in case I need to tweak these sorts of errors.

So, as you can see, the answer is not particularly straight forward.  At least 
in my experience.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Feb 25, 2019, at 12:17, Karen Lewellen  wrote:

Hi Tim,
Question from the back of the class.
You say that  if a title  exists in Apple music, that instead of uploading your 
ripped edition, that title simply becomes usable and downloadable for you.  How 
 exact is this choice?
For example if you rip  Ticket to ride by the carpenters from your cd copy of 
offerings, which is rare, and Apple music has ticket to ride by the carpenters 
from say  the remastered cd called ticket to ride, which is the same song but 
not the same  arrangement, will Apple music simply substitute what they have 
instead?  even if not what you ripped?
Thanks,
Kare



On Mon, 25 Feb 2019, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Nothing ever "disappears" from your devices.  What happens with Apple Music 
> is that an iCloud Music Library is created on your behalf.  So all your 
> content, including playlists is copied up to iCloud for syncing across all 
> your devices.  So, copies of the music you've ripped are either uploaded to 
> that iCloud Music Library, or if Apple has that same title in their library, 
> it is simply marked as usable and downloadable by you.  This saves on Cloud 
> space as titles that Apple has in their own library do not need to be stored 
> tons of times by tons of users.  Keeping this in mind, it is important to 
> keep a local copy of your ripped music, as Apple downloads an "Apple Music" 
> encoded version of the song, which is great as long as you remain an Apple 
> Music customer.  When you terminate your Apple Music subscription, you retain 
> the downloaded copies, but because they are Apple Music encoded, you will 
> lose the ability to play them after a bit of time.  Because you've kept the 
> local copy on your Mac, those titles won't be affected by the Apple Music 
> limitations, but the iPhone downloaded versions will.
> 
> the iTunes Match service also creates an iCloud Music Library but does not 
> have the Apple Music restrictions when you terminate the service.  I love the 
> ability to have the same library across all my devices, so love both the 
> Apple Music and iTunes Match services.  there are benefits and limitations to 
> both.
> 
> Back to your original question, no you won't lose that music, but you may 
> need to copy it over again from your Mac if and when you do so.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Feb 25, 2019, at 11:25, Petrus Tuerlings  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> I just started copying all of my CDs into iTunes on the Mac. Must admit it is 
> a million times easier then doing it with iTunes on a windows machine. My 
> question is: Once I’ve finished ripping the CD it appears in my music App on 
> my iPhone along with a download button. I’m guessing this is happening 
> because I’m subscribed to Apple Music? If I download the album that has shown 
> up in my music app on the phone, will it vanish from the iPhone if I cancel 
> my subscription to Apple Music even though it is the same album I copied from 
> my CD onto my Mac? Or should I be transferring the copied album from my Mac 
> to the iPhone directly so I don’t need to download it?
> Hope this question made sense?
> Thank you,
> Petrus
> Sent from Petrus' MacBook
> 
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Re: Ripping CDs into iTunes

2019-02-25 Thread Karen Lewellen

Hi Tim,
Question from the back of the class.
You say that  if a title  exists in Apple music, that instead of uploading 
your ripped edition, that title simply becomes usable and downloadable 
for you.  How  exact is this choice?
For example if you rip  Ticket to ride by the carpenters from your cd copy 
of offerings, which is rare, and Apple music has ticket to ride by the 
carpenters from say  the remastered cd called ticket to ride, which is the 
same song but not the same  arrangement, will Apple music simply substitute 
what they have instead?  even if not what you ripped?

Thanks,
Kare



On Mon, 25 Feb 2019, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:


Hi,

Nothing ever "disappears" from your devices.  What happens with Apple Music is that an 
iCloud Music Library is created on your behalf.  So all your content, including playlists is copied 
up to iCloud for syncing across all your devices.  So, copies of the music you've ripped are either 
uploaded to that iCloud Music Library, or if Apple has that same title in their library, it is 
simply marked as usable and downloadable by you.  This saves on Cloud space as titles that Apple 
has in their own library do not need to be stored tons of times by tons of users.  Keeping this in 
mind, it is important to keep a local copy of your ripped music, as Apple downloads an "Apple 
Music" encoded version of the song, which is great as long as you remain an Apple Music 
customer.  When you terminate your Apple Music subscription, you retain the downloaded copies, but 
because they are Apple Music encoded, you will lose the ability to play them after a bit of time.  
Because you've kept the local copy on your Mac, those titles won't be affected by the Apple Music 
limitations, but the iPhone downloaded versions will.

the iTunes Match service also creates an iCloud Music Library but does not have 
the Apple Music restrictions when you terminate the service.  I love the 
ability to have the same library across all my devices, so love both the Apple 
Music and iTunes Match services.  there are benefits and limitations to both.

Back to your original question, no you won't lose that music, but you may need 
to copy it over again from your Mac if and when you do so.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Feb 25, 2019, at 11:25, Petrus Tuerlings  wrote:

Hi all,
I just started copying all of my CDs into iTunes on the Mac. Must admit it is a 
million times easier then doing it with iTunes on a windows machine. My 
question is: Once I???ve finished ripping the CD it appears in my music App on 
my iPhone along with a download button. I???m guessing this is happening 
because I???m subscribed to Apple Music? If I download the album that has shown 
up in my music app on the phone, will it vanish from the iPhone if I cancel my 
subscription to Apple Music even though it is the same album I copied from my 
CD onto my Mac? Or should I be transferring the copied album from my Mac to the 
iPhone directly so I don???t need to download it?
Hope this question made sense?
Thank you,
Petrus
Sent from Petrus' MacBook


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Re: Ripping CDs into iTunes

2019-02-25 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi,

Nothing ever "disappears" from your devices.  What happens with Apple Music is 
that an iCloud Music Library is created on your behalf.  So all your content, 
including playlists is copied up to iCloud for syncing across all your devices. 
 So, copies of the music you've ripped are either uploaded to that iCloud Music 
Library, or if Apple has that same title in their library, it is simply marked 
as usable and downloadable by you.  This saves on Cloud space as titles that 
Apple has in their own library do not need to be stored tons of times by tons 
of users.  Keeping this in mind, it is important to keep a local copy of your 
ripped music, as Apple downloads an "Apple Music" encoded version of the song, 
which is great as long as you remain an Apple Music customer.  When you 
terminate your Apple Music subscription, you retain the downloaded copies, but 
because they are Apple Music encoded, you will lose the ability to play them 
after a bit of time.  Because you've kept the local copy on your Mac, those 
titles won't be affected by the Apple Music limitations, but the iPhone 
downloaded versions will.

the iTunes Match service also creates an iCloud Music Library but does not have 
the Apple Music restrictions when you terminate the service.  I love the 
ability to have the same library across all my devices, so love both the Apple 
Music and iTunes Match services.  there are benefits and limitations to both.

Back to your original question, no you won't lose that music, but you may need 
to copy it over again from your Mac if and when you do so.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Feb 25, 2019, at 11:25, Petrus Tuerlings  wrote:

Hi all,
I just started copying all of my CDs into iTunes on the Mac. Must admit it is a 
million times easier then doing it with iTunes on a windows machine. My 
question is: Once I’ve finished ripping the CD it appears in my music App on my 
iPhone along with a download button. I’m guessing this is happening because I’m 
subscribed to Apple Music? If I download the album that has shown up in my 
music app on the phone, will it vanish from the iPhone if I cancel my 
subscription to Apple Music even though it is the same album I copied from my 
CD onto my Mac? Or should I be transferring the copied album from my Mac to the 
iPhone directly so I don’t need to download it? 
Hope this question made sense?
Thank you,
Petrus 
Sent from Petrus' MacBook 


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Ripping CDs into iTunes

2019-02-25 Thread Petrus Tuerlings
Hi all,
I just started copying all of my CDs into iTunes on the Mac. Must admit it is a 
million times easier then doing it with iTunes on a windows machine. My 
question is: Once I’ve finished ripping the CD it appears in my music App on my 
iPhone along with a download button. I’m guessing this is happening because I’m 
subscribed to Apple Music? If I download the album that has shown up in my 
music app on the phone, will it vanish from the iPhone if I cancel my 
subscription to Apple Music even though it is the same album I copied from my 
CD onto my Mac? Or should I be transferring the copied album from my Mac to the 
iPhone directly so I don’t need to download it? 
Hope this question made sense?
Thank you,
Petrus 
Sent from Petrus' MacBook 

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Re: Some iTunes questions?

2019-01-31 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi,

With respect to the first of your questions.  Are you playing the videos from 
your Mac and channelling the audio to a surround sound system?  If so, to 
maintain the 5.1 or 7.1 signal, you need to use either a Mini to Display port 
to HDMI adaptor, or straight HDMI out depending on your Mac.  When using these 
connections instead of the optical out, the surround sound signal is 
maintained.  Alternatively, many surround sound receivers will automatically do 
the conversion internally from stereo to surround sound so that you still get 
the surround sound sound even with stereo input.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
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Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jan 30, 2019, at 06:01, Matt Turner  wrote:

Hi folks.
First of all,.
I have some dvd movies, that I’ve ripped in Flac.
I’ve ripped them in Flac, so I could keep the 5.1 channel surround sound format 
audio.
I’ve tryed converting them to m4a, and aiff, but iTunes doesn’t seem to like to 
play audio files with 5.1 channels.
Anyone have any ideas, how to get iTunes to play those 5.1 channel files?
1 more thing.
So I’m triing to create a smart playlist, of podcast.
If the podcast has been unplayed, I want to have it show up in the list.
I can’t seem to get that to work either.
Anyway, thanks.

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Re: iTunes Library

2019-01-30 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
   We have some good people who do greet great problem solving. You are 
one of those and I thank you for being here.


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in the past. What if it were true?

On 1/30/2019 5:02 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,


Good work.

  Later...


Sent from my iPhone


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   Finally got it all resolved. Apparently an iTunes update late last year that 
hid the Home Videos in the library sidebar. Once I unhid it, I was able to get 
it all sorted out in both iTunes on the Mac and on my ATV.

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Re: iTunes Library

2019-01-30 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi,


Good work. 

 Later... 


Sent from my iPhone

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>   Finally got it all resolved. Apparently an iTunes update late last year 
> that hid the Home Videos in the library sidebar. Once I unhid it, I was able 
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iTunes Library

2019-01-30 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
   Finally got it all resolved. Apparently an iTunes update late last 
year that hid the Home Videos in the library sidebar. Once I unhid it, I 
was able to get it all sorted out in both iTunes on the Mac and on my ATV.


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Re: iTunes Library Issues

2019-01-30 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
   Yes of course. Everything is fine except in the Home Videos 
category. And the odd thing is that within iTunes on the Mac its in 
better shape but still not quite right. Very strange.


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Interesting,

As Tim said can you find them under computers?

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Subject: Re: iTunes Library Issues

 M4V. The 'missing' titles seem to be ones I added back in September, about 
the time I upgraded to Mojave. And perhaps iTunes 12.9 at that time.

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Hi ET,

Ust wondering on this,

What format are these home videos in?

Mp4,MKV etc?

I'm wondering if it might be more of a file format issue than ATV / itunes 
having the issue.
-Original Message-
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Sent: Tuesday, 29 January 2019 12:04 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iTunes Library Issues

Hi Tim,
  I am spinning my wheels on ice regarding iTunes. I booted High Sierra 
from its USB drive. It has iTunes version 12.8 (current is 12.9).
I wanted to see if my home videos were there but the 12.8 will not read a 
database file created in the newer version.

  Any idea what or how Apple TV accesses iTunes content? Content from the 
iTunes store is fine, its just Home Videos. This is so weird because the list 
of Home Videos is different in both ATV and in the iTunes list inside the 
Movies section. An example is in one genre in iTunes there are 37 titles where 
in ATV its 41 which is correct. In ATV one genre is missing and the titles that 
should be in there are in a different genre but its correct in iTunes.

  Any thoughts on how to get all this in sync? I had tried moving the .itl 
file to see if it would be recreated but iTunes will not open without it. 
Thanks Tim!

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On 1/27/2019 4:39 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,

So, these are videos that you've ripped yourself that are not in the
iTunes Library on your Mac?  I assume that this is when you're
navigating from within the Computers section on the ATV?  Otherwise,
there's no real reason for them to be exactly the same as Home videos
are not stored in the Cloud.  This is also rather odd, as it is
usually the other way around, where The Apple TV does not display all
the titles that the Mac does.  Do you know which titles are missing?
Have you searched for them from within the Finder?

Later...
Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jan 26, 2019, at 17:33, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

     Latest Mojave and iTunes. I found that what I see on my Apple TV
does not match what I see in iTunes on the Mac. I see all of the
content in the Home Videos folder, all of it on the Apple TV, but not
all of it in iTunes on the Mac.

     I tried launching iTunes while holding down the option key and
choosing the library. No change. Then I moved the database file and
repeating launching iTunes while holding down the option key and
choosing the library. No go.

     What else can I try? Thanks.

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Some iTunes questions?

2019-01-30 Thread Matt Turner
Hi folks.
First of all,.
I have some dvd movies, that I’ve ripped in Flac.
I’ve ripped them in Flac, so I could keep the 5.1 channel surround sound format 
audio.
I’ve tryed converting them to m4a, and aiff, but iTunes doesn’t seem to like to 
play audio files with 5.1 channels.
Anyone have any ideas, how to get iTunes to play those 5.1 channel files?
1 more thing.
So I’m triing to create a smart playlist, of podcast.
If the podcast has been unplayed, I want to have it show up in the list.
I can’t seem to get that to work either.
Anyway, thanks.

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RE: iTunes Library Issues

2019-01-30 Thread Simon Fogarty
Interesting,

As Tim said can you find them under computers?

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Sent: Tuesday, 29 January 2019 7:24 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iTunes Library Issues

M4V. The 'missing' titles seem to be ones I added back in September, about 
the time I upgraded to Mojave. And perhaps iTunes 12.9 at that time.

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On 1/28/2019 9:45 PM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
> Hi ET,
> 
> Ust wondering on this,
> 
> What format are these home videos in?
> 
> Mp4,MKV etc?
> 
> I'm wondering if it might be more of a file format issue than ATV / itunes 
> having the issue.
> -Original Message-
> From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> Sent: Tuesday, 29 January 2019 12:04 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iTunes Library Issues
> 
> Hi Tim,
>  I am spinning my wheels on ice regarding iTunes. I booted High Sierra 
> from its USB drive. It has iTunes version 12.8 (current is 12.9).
> I wanted to see if my home videos were there but the 12.8 will not read a 
> database file created in the newer version.
> 
>  Any idea what or how Apple TV accesses iTunes content? Content from the 
> iTunes store is fine, its just Home Videos. This is so weird because the list 
> of Home Videos is different in both ATV and in the iTunes list inside the 
> Movies section. An example is in one genre in iTunes there are 37 titles 
> where in ATV its 41 which is correct. In ATV one genre is missing and the 
> titles that should be in there are in a different genre but its correct in 
> iTunes.
> 
>  Any thoughts on how to get all this in sync? I had tried moving the .itl 
> file to see if it would be recreated but iTunes will not open without it. 
> Thanks Tim!
> 
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> true?
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> On 1/27/2019 4:39 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> So, these are videos that you've ripped yourself that are not in the 
>> iTunes Library on your Mac?  I assume that this is when you're 
>> navigating from within the Computers section on the ATV?  Otherwise, 
>> there's no real reason for them to be exactly the same as Home videos 
>> are not stored in the Cloud.  This is also rather odd, as it is 
>> usually the other way around, where The Apple TV does not display all 
>> the titles that the Mac does.  Do you know which titles are missing?
>> Have you searched for them from within the Finder?
>>
>> Later...
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>
>> On Jan 26, 2019, at 17:33, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>> > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     Latest Mojave and iTunes. I found that what I see on my Apple TV 
>> does not match what I see in iTunes on the Mac. I see all of the 
>> content in the Home Videos folder, all of it on the Apple TV, but not 
>> all of it in iTunes on the Mac.
>>
>>     I tried launching iTunes while holding down the option key and 
>> choosing the library. No change. Then I moved the database file and 
>> repeating launching iTunes while holding down the option key and 
>> choosing the library. No go.
>>
>>     What else can I try? Thanks.
>>
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Re: iTunes Library Issues

2019-01-28 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
   M4V. The 'missing' titles seem to be ones I added back in September, 
about the time I upgraded to Mojave. And perhaps iTunes 12.9 at that time.


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On 1/28/2019 9:45 PM, Simon Fogarty wrote:

Hi ET,

Ust wondering on this,

What format are these home videos in?

Mp4,MKV etc?

I'm wondering if it might be more of a file format issue than ATV / itunes 
having the issue.
-Original Message-
From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
Sent: Tuesday, 29 January 2019 12:04 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iTunes Library Issues

Hi Tim,
 I am spinning my wheels on ice regarding iTunes. I booted High Sierra from 
its USB drive. It has iTunes version 12.8 (current is 12.9).
I wanted to see if my home videos were there but the 12.8 will not read a 
database file created in the newer version.

 Any idea what or how Apple TV accesses iTunes content? Content from the 
iTunes store is fine, its just Home Videos. This is so weird because the list 
of Home Videos is different in both ATV and in the iTunes list inside the 
Movies section. An example is in one genre in iTunes there are 37 titles where 
in ATV its 41 which is correct. In ATV one genre is missing and the titles that 
should be in there are in a different genre but its correct in iTunes.

 Any thoughts on how to get all this in sync? I had tried moving the .itl 
file to see if it would be recreated but iTunes will not open without it. 
Thanks Tim!

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On 1/27/2019 4:39 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,

So, these are videos that you've ripped yourself that are not in the
iTunes Library on your Mac?  I assume that this is when you're
navigating from within the Computers section on the ATV?  Otherwise,
there's no real reason for them to be exactly the same as Home videos
are not stored in the Cloud.  This is also rather odd, as it is
usually the other way around, where The Apple TV does not display all
the titles that the Mac does.  Do you know which titles are missing?
Have you searched for them from within the Finder?

Later...
Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jan 26, 2019, at 17:33, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

    Latest Mojave and iTunes. I found that what I see on my Apple TV
does not match what I see in iTunes on the Mac. I see all of the
content in the Home Videos folder, all of it on the Apple TV, but not
all of it in iTunes on the Mac.

    I tried launching iTunes while holding down the option key and
choosing the library. No change. Then I moved the database file and
repeating launching iTunes while holding down the option key and
choosing the library. No go.

    What else can I try? Thanks.

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RE: iTunes Library Issues

2019-01-28 Thread Simon Fogarty
Hi ET,

Ust wondering on this,

What format are these home videos in?

Mp4,MKV etc?

I'm wondering if it might be more of a file format issue than ATV / itunes 
having the issue.
-Original Message-
From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Tuesday, 29 January 2019 12:04 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iTunes Library Issues

Hi Tim,
I am spinning my wheels on ice regarding iTunes. I booted High Sierra from 
its USB drive. It has iTunes version 12.8 (current is 12.9). 
I wanted to see if my home videos were there but the 12.8 will not read a 
database file created in the newer version.

Any idea what or how Apple TV accesses iTunes content? Content from the 
iTunes store is fine, its just Home Videos. This is so weird because the list 
of Home Videos is different in both ATV and in the iTunes list inside the 
Movies section. An example is in one genre in iTunes there are 37 titles where 
in ATV its 41 which is correct. In ATV one genre is missing and the titles that 
should be in there are in a different genre but its correct in iTunes.

Any thoughts on how to get all this in sync? I had tried moving the .itl 
file to see if it would be recreated but iTunes will not open without it. 
Thanks Tim!

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On 1/27/2019 4:39 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> So, these are videos that you've ripped yourself that are not in the 
> iTunes Library on your Mac?  I assume that this is when you're 
> navigating from within the Computers section on the ATV?  Otherwise, 
> there's no real reason for them to be exactly the same as Home videos 
> are not stored in the Cloud.  This is also rather odd, as it is 
> usually the other way around, where The Apple TV does not display all 
> the titles that the Mac does.  Do you know which titles are missing?  
> Have you searched for them from within the Finder?
> 
> Later...
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Jan 26, 2019, at 17:33, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
> 
>    Latest Mojave and iTunes. I found that what I see on my Apple TV 
> does not match what I see in iTunes on the Mac. I see all of the 
> content in the Home Videos folder, all of it on the Apple TV, but not 
> all of it in iTunes on the Mac.
> 
>    I tried launching iTunes while holding down the option key and 
> choosing the library. No change. Then I moved the database file and 
> repeating launching iTunes while holding down the option key and 
> choosing the library. No go.
> 
>    What else can I try? Thanks.
> 
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Re: iTunes Library Issues

2019-01-28 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
   On the ATV the home videos show up in the Movies category. In the 
iTunes app on the Mac I am looking at this in the Movies section. I am 
not sure if it will work but I am going to check the ATV after I pull 
the plug to see if it sets things straight. No I don't use iTunes Match 
or Music.


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Hi,

Are you looking at the titles in the Movies section on the ATV, or on 
the Computers, Your Computer, Movies section?  As far as I understand, 
the ATV uses it's own Library file as part of its iOS.  This will be 
integrated with the Cloud version if you have Apple Music or iTunes 
Match which use an iCloud Music Library.  That's all well and good, but 
when it comes to Movies and TV Shows, they are a slightly different 
animal as there isn't really a Cloud instance of the Library per se. 
  The iTunes media titles are assigned to your Apple ID and each local 
instance of iTunes deals with them in its own library database. You can 
make changes to the info locally and it probably won't affect it on a 
different instance.  Hope this makes some sort of sense.


Later...
.
Tim Kilburn
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(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jan 28, 2019, at 16:03, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:


Hi Tim,
   I am spinning my wheels on ice regarding iTunes. I booted High Sierra 
from its USB drive. It has iTunes version 12.8 (current is 12.9). I 
wanted to see if my home videos were there but the 12.8 will not read a 
database file created in the newer version.


   Any idea what or how Apple TV accesses iTunes content? Content from 
the iTunes store is fine, its just Home Videos. This is so weird because 
the list of Home Videos is different in both ATV and in the iTunes list 
inside the Movies section. An example is in one genre in iTunes there 
are 37 titles where in ATV its 41 which is correct. In ATV one genre is 
missing and the titles that should be in there are in a different genre 
but its correct in iTunes.


   Any thoughts on how to get all this in sync? I had tried moving the 
.itl file to see if it would be recreated but iTunes will not open 
without it. Thanks Tim!


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Hi,
So, these are videos that you've ripped yourself that are not in the 
iTunes Library on your Mac?  I assume that this is when you're 
navigating from within the Computers section on the ATV?  Otherwise, 
there's no real reason for them to be exactly the same as Home videos 
are not stored in the Cloud.  This is also rather odd, as it is 
usually the other way around, where The Apple TV does not display all 
the titles that the Mac does.  Do you know which titles are missing? 
 Have you searched for them from within the Finder?

Later...
Tim Kilburn
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(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
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  Latest Mojave and iTunes. I found that what I see on my Apple TV 
does not match what I see in iTunes on the Mac. I see all of the 
content in the Home Videos folder, all of it on the Apple TV, but not 
all of it in iTunes on the Mac.
  I tried launching iTunes while holding down the option key and 
choosing the library. No change. Then I moved the database file and 
repeating launching iTunes while holding down the option key and 
choosing the library. No go.

  What else can I try? Thanks.
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Re: iTunes Library Issues

2019-01-28 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi,

Are you looking at the titles in the Movies section on the ATV, or on the 
Computers, Your Computer, Movies section?  As far as I understand, the ATV uses 
it's own Library file as part of its iOS.  This will be integrated with the 
Cloud version if you have Apple Music or iTunes Match which use an iCloud Music 
Library.  That's all well and good, but when it comes to Movies and TV Shows, 
they are a slightly different animal as there isn't really a Cloud instance of 
the Library per se.  The iTunes media titles are assigned to your Apple ID and 
each local instance of iTunes deals with them in its own library database. You 
can make changes to the info locally and it probably won't affect it on a 
different instance.  Hope this makes some sort of sense.

Later...
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Hi Tim,
  I am spinning my wheels on ice regarding iTunes. I booted High Sierra from 
its USB drive. It has iTunes version 12.8 (current is 12.9). I wanted to see if 
my home videos were there but the 12.8 will not read a database file created in 
the newer version.

  Any idea what or how Apple TV accesses iTunes content? Content from the 
iTunes store is fine, its just Home Videos. This is so weird because the list 
of Home Videos is different in both ATV and in the iTunes list inside the 
Movies section. An example is in one genre in iTunes there are 37 titles where 
in ATV its 41 which is correct. In ATV one genre is missing and the titles that 
should be in there are in a different genre but its correct in iTunes.

  Any thoughts on how to get all this in sync? I had tried moving the .itl file 
to see if it would be recreated but iTunes will not open without it. Thanks Tim!

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> Hi,
> So, these are videos that you've ripped yourself that are not in the iTunes 
> Library on your Mac?  I assume that this is when you're navigating from 
> within the Computers section on the ATV?  Otherwise, there's no real reason 
> for them to be exactly the same as Home videos are not stored in the Cloud.  
> This is also rather odd, as it is usually the other way around, where The 
> Apple TV does not display all the titles that the Mac does.  Do you know 
> which titles are missing?  Have you searched for them from within the Finder?
> Later...
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> On Jan 26, 2019, at 17:33, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
>   Latest Mojave and iTunes. I found that what I see on my Apple TV does not 
> match what I see in iTunes on the Mac. I see all of the content in the Home 
> Videos folder, all of it on the Apple TV, but not all of it in iTunes on the 
> Mac.
>   I tried launching iTunes while holding down the option key and choosing the 
> library. No change. Then I moved the database file and repeating launching 
> iTunes while holding down the option key and choosing the library. No go.
>   What else can I try? Thanks.
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Re: iTunes Library Issues

2019-01-28 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries

Hi Tim,
   I am spinning my wheels on ice regarding iTunes. I booted High 
Sierra from its USB drive. It has iTunes version 12.8 (current is 12.9). 
I wanted to see if my home videos were there but the 12.8 will not read 
a database file created in the newer version.


   Any idea what or how Apple TV accesses iTunes content? Content from 
the iTunes store is fine, its just Home Videos. This is so weird because 
the list of Home Videos is different in both ATV and in the iTunes list 
inside the Movies section. An example is in one genre in iTunes there 
are 37 titles where in ATV its 41 which is correct. In ATV one genre is 
missing and the titles that should be in there are in a different genre 
but its correct in iTunes.


   Any thoughts on how to get all this in sync? I had tried moving the 
.itl file to see if it would be recreated but iTunes will not open 
without it. Thanks Tim!


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Hi,

So, these are videos that you've ripped yourself that are not in the 
iTunes Library on your Mac?  I assume that this is when you're 
navigating from within the Computers section on the ATV?  Otherwise, 
there's no real reason for them to be exactly the same as Home videos 
are not stored in the Cloud.  This is also rather odd, as it is usually 
the other way around, where The Apple TV does not display all the titles 
that the Mac does.  Do you know which titles are missing?  Have you 
searched for them from within the Finder?


Later...
Tim Kilburn
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(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jan 26, 2019, at 17:33, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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   Latest Mojave and iTunes. I found that what I see on my Apple TV does 
not match what I see in iTunes on the Mac. I see all of the content in 
the Home Videos folder, all of it on the Apple TV, but not all of it in 
iTunes on the Mac.


   I tried launching iTunes while holding down the option key and 
choosing the library. No change. Then I moved the database file and 
repeating launching iTunes while holding down the option key and 
choosing the library. No go.


   What else can I try? Thanks.

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Re: iTunes Library Issues

2019-01-27 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
   I decided to start over, empty the Home Videos folder and put all 
the titles into the 'automatically add' folder. Most of the missing 
titles were from September which is when I upgraded to Mojave so no 
telling what happened. I will copy the videos to the 'automatically add' 
folder while I sleep tonight. (grins)


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Hi,

So, these are videos that you've ripped yourself that are not in the 
iTunes Library on your Mac?  I assume that this is when you're 
navigating from within the Computers section on the ATV?  Otherwise, 
there's no real reason for them to be exactly the same as Home videos 
are not stored in the Cloud.  This is also rather odd, as it is usually 
the other way around, where The Apple TV does not display all the titles 
that the Mac does.  Do you know which titles are missing?  Have you 
searched for them from within the Finder?


Later...
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Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jan 26, 2019, at 17:33, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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   Latest Mojave and iTunes. I found that what I see on my Apple TV does 
not match what I see in iTunes on the Mac. I see all of the content in 
the Home Videos folder, all of it on the Apple TV, but not all of it in 
iTunes on the Mac.


   I tried launching iTunes while holding down the option key and 
choosing the library. No change. Then I moved the database file and 
repeating launching iTunes while holding down the option key and 
choosing the library. No go.


   What else can I try? Thanks.

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Re: iTunes Library Issues

2019-01-27 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi,

So, these are videos that you've ripped yourself that are not in the iTunes 
Library on your Mac?  I assume that this is when you're navigating from within 
the Computers section on the ATV?  Otherwise, there's no real reason for them 
to be exactly the same as Home videos are not stored in the Cloud.  This is 
also rather odd, as it is usually the other way around, where The Apple TV does 
not display all the titles that the Mac does.  Do you know which titles are 
missing?  Have you searched for them from within the Finder?

Later...
  
Tim Kilburn
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(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

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  Latest Mojave and iTunes. I found that what I see on my Apple TV does not 
match what I see in iTunes on the Mac. I see all of the content in the Home 
Videos folder, all of it on the Apple TV, but not all of it in iTunes on the 
Mac.

  I tried launching iTunes while holding down the option key and choosing the 
library. No change. Then I moved the database file and repeating launching 
iTunes while holding down the option key and choosing the library. No go.

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iTunes Library Issues

2019-01-26 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
   Latest Mojave and iTunes. I found that what I see on my Apple TV 
does not match what I see in iTunes on the Mac. I see all of the content 
in the Home Videos folder, all of it on the Apple TV, but not all of it 
in iTunes on the Mac.


   I tried launching iTunes while holding down the option key and 
choosing the library. No change. Then I moved the database file and 
repeating launching iTunes while holding down the option key and 
choosing the library. No go.


   What else can I try? Thanks.

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Re: Accessible ipod manager instead of iTunes?

2019-01-21 Thread 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries
At the time v1 was cheaper.
Version to allows syncing over Wi-Fi,  that wasn’t important for me so I chose 
version one.


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> On Jan 21, 2019, at 6:35 PM, Trahern Culver  wrote:
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>  Hi thanks for your reply, is walter2 not accessible? Thanks very much kind 
> regards 
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> On 21 Jan 2019, at 16:52, 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi Trey,
> I use Waltr.
> Thats spelled,
> W A L T R.
> https://softorino.com/waltr/
> I have the original version, not Waltr2.
> download a free trial and try it out.
> 
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>> hi everyone, I hope your all well. I have an iPod touch 5th gen. I find 
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>> iPod manager that will work with the iPod touch 5th gen? Your help with this 
>> question would be most welcome kind regards trey.
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Re: Accessible ipod manager instead of iTunes?

2019-01-21 Thread Trahern Culver
 Hi thanks for your reply, is walter2 not accessible? Thanks very much kind 
regards 

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Hi Trey,
I use Waltr.
Thats spelled,
W A L T R.
https://softorino.com/waltr/
I have the original version, not Waltr2.
download a free trial and try it out.

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Re: Accessible ipod manager instead of iTunes?

2019-01-21 Thread 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries
Hi Trey,
I use Waltr.
Thats spelled,
W A L T R.
https://softorino.com/waltr/ <https://softorino.com/waltr/>
I have the original version, not Waltr2.
download a free trial and try it out.

> On Jan 20, 2019, at 10:07 PM, Trahern Culver  
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> hi everyone, I hope your all well. I have an iPod touch 5th gen. I find 
> iTunes clunky and inefficient, so please can any one recommend an accessible 
> iPod manager that will work with the iPod touch 5th gen? Your help with this 
> question would be most welcome kind regards trey.
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Accessible ipod manager instead of iTunes?

2019-01-20 Thread Trahern Culver
hi everyone, I hope your all well. I have an iPod touch 5th gen. I find 
iTunes clunky and inefficient, so please can any one recommend an 
accessible iPod manager that will work with the iPod touch 5th gen? Your 
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Re: Does anyone know if it’s possible to play your iTunes library using Alexa?

2019-01-15 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Hey Shawn,

Well, for me it isn't the end of the world.  Since we've gotten all our smart 
home stuff to work with Siri, we're going to take the Sonos back and get a 
HomePod instead.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Jan 15, 2019, at 12:05 PM, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Donna. Unfortunately Apple Music on alexa is only available on Echo 
> devices. So I guess no Sonos support yet.
>  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jan 15, 2019, at 6:32 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
>> Hey Shawn,
>> 
>> Well, it seems that we--or at least some of us--in the U.S. don't get it 
>> either.
>> 
>> I have Apple Music linked to Alexa on my phone, but when I try to play it on 
>> the Sonos 1 using Alexa, she says "Apple Music is not supported on this 
>> device.  To play Apple Music, I actually have to use Siri on my phone with 
>> AirPlay.  Pretty Lame, imho.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 15, 2019, at 1:22 AM, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Simon. We countries that don't have the initials USA in their names 
>>> don't get Apple Music on the Echo just yet. Don't know why but that's Apple 
>>> and Amazon for ya.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Shawn,
>>> Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air
>>> 
>>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
>>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
>>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
>>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com>
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 14, 2019, at 12:05 AM, Simon Fogarty >>> <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Donna,
>>>> 
>>>> From your phone yes, anything that is internal to your phones music 
>>>> collection  you can play through alexa.
>>>> 
>>>> Also apple music is available through amazon alexa now or at least on echo 
>>>> devices.
>>>> 
>>>> I've been trying to get my itunes library from my server to be seen by my 
>>>> echo but I've had no luck.
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>>> Sent: Monday, 14 January 2019 4:53 AM
>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Subject: Does anyone know if it’s possible to play your iTunes library 
>>>> using Alexa?
>>>> 
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> After about a month of trying to set up a smart home using Apple home, my 
>>>> husband and I have finally given up and gone with Alexa. I would very much 
>>>> like to be able to play my iTunes library on our Alexa device. Does anyone 
>>>> know if there’s a way to do this?
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Donna
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Does anyone know if it’s possible to play your iTunes library using Alexa?

2019-01-15 Thread 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries
Hi Donna. Unfortunately Apple Music on alexa is only available on Echo devices. 
So I guess no Sonos support yet.
 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 15, 2019, at 6:32 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hey Shawn,
> 
> Well, it seems that we--or at least some of us--in the U.S. don't get it 
> either.
> 
> I have Apple Music linked to Alexa on my phone, but when I try to play it on 
> the Sonos 1 using Alexa, she says "Apple Music is not supported on this 
> device.  To play Apple Music, I actually have to use Siri on my phone with 
> AirPlay.  Pretty Lame, imho.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> 
>> On Jan 15, 2019, at 1:22 AM, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Simon. We countries that don't have the initials USA in their names don't 
>> get Apple Music on the Echo just yet. Don't know why but that's Apple and 
>> Amazon for ya.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Shawn,
>> Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air
>> 
>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
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>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
>> 
>>> On Jan 14, 2019, at 12:05 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Donna,
>>> 
>>> From your phone yes, anything that is internal to your phones music 
>>> collection  you can play through alexa.
>>> 
>>> Also apple music is available through amazon alexa now or at least on echo 
>>> devices.
>>> 
>>> I've been trying to get my itunes library from my server to be seen by my 
>>> echo but I've had no luck.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  
>>> Sent: Monday, 14 January 2019 4:53 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Does anyone know if it’s possible to play your iTunes library 
>>> using Alexa?
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> After about a month of trying to set up a smart home using Apple home, my 
>>> husband and I have finally given up and gone with Alexa. I would very much 
>>> like to be able to play my iTunes library on our Alexa device. Does anyone 
>>> know if there’s a way to do this?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Re: Does anyone know if it’s possible to play your iTunes library using Alexa?

2019-01-15 Thread Karen Lewellen

Hi Tim,
I suppose from my hardware perspective, I bought my last stereo in 1991, 
and  it still works, I am unsure why someone would need both, with need 
the buzz word here.
Its nifty that inter-product negotiations are taking place of course. Add 
that  Amazon  did come first with folks perhaps moving to Apple Music for 
product quality reasons..but both?

Kare



On Tue, 15 Jan 2019, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:


Hi,

While the Alexa/Google/Spofify/Apple Music battle for supremacy continues, 
there does appear to be negotiations between some of the players for 
inter-racial cooperation.  Apple has made arrangements with Amazon and Samsung 
for their devices to have access to the Apple Music environment.  Those with 
Apple ecosystem devices often have other devices as well and/or services like 
Amazon Prime for purchasing products.  In the case of Amazon Prime, this also 
gives you a basic Amazon Music subscription, so the waters muddy once again.  
Alexa and Apple Music do speak to each other, just not as efficiently as Apple 
to Apple.  There are links out there that explain how to use Apple Music on 
your Alexa device that would probably do better than I could in a short message 
here.  Again, it's not the smoothest relationship, but it is doable in specific 
situations.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jan 15, 2019, at 09:21, Karen Lewellen  wrote:

Actually, is it truly?
Amazon  wants you to focus on their service when using their devices, so they  
have little reason to support Apple music, certainly not if they prefer you use 
their own.
additionally, I had a thought while writing  this message.  granted I do not 
use either service, but wonder if there might be a copyright factor crossing 
platforms like this, especially where the licensing rights are concerned?
someone told me ages back that ITunes used to be rather destructive where 
private music libraries are concerned, our desire to play files of your own via 
ITunes I mean.
Speaking very personally,  as someone who still has a stereo...complete with  
turntable smiles, I have to ask why a person needs access to both platforms  in 
a cross platform fashion?  Why do you need to play apple music   items using an 
amazon product and the other way around?  or why one needs  playlists in both 
platforms?
Just curious frankly,
Kare



On Tue, 15 Jan 2019, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:


Hey Shawn,

Well, it seems that we--or at least some of us--in the U.S. don't get it either.

I have Apple Music linked to Alexa on my phone, but when I try to play it on the 
Sonos 1 using Alexa, she says "Apple Music is not supported on this device.  To 
play Apple Music, I actually have to use Siri on my phone with AirPlay.  Pretty 
Lame, imho.
Cheers,
Donna



On Jan 15, 2019, at 1:22 AM, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Hi Simon. We countries that don't have the initials USA in their names don't 
get Apple Music on the Echo just yet. Don't know why but that's Apple and 
Amazon for ya.

Regards,
Shawn,
Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air

Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com> <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com 
<mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com>>


On Jan 14, 2019, at 12:05 AM, Simon Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com> <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com 
<mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>>> wrote:

Hi Donna,

From your phone yes, anything that is internal to your phones music collection  
you can play through alexa.

Also apple music is available through amazon alexa now or at least on echo 
devices.

I've been trying to get my itunes library from my server to be seen by my echo 
but I've had no luck.

-Original Message-
From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>>
Sent: Monday, 14 January 2019 4:53 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Does anyone know if it???s possible to play your iTunes library using 
Alexa?

Hi all,

After about a month of trying to set up a smart home using Apple home, my 
husband and I have finally given up and gone with Alexa. I would very much like 
to be able to play my iTunes library on our Alexa device. Does anyone know if 
there???s a way to do this?
Thanks,
Donna

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Does anyone know if it’s possible to play your iTunes library using Alexa?

2019-01-15 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi,

While the Alexa/Google/Spofify/Apple Music battle for supremacy continues, 
there does appear to be negotiations between some of the players for 
inter-racial cooperation.  Apple has made arrangements with Amazon and Samsung 
for their devices to have access to the Apple Music environment.  Those with 
Apple ecosystem devices often have other devices as well and/or services like 
Amazon Prime for purchasing products.  In the case of Amazon Prime, this also 
gives you a basic Amazon Music subscription, so the waters muddy once again.  
Alexa and Apple Music do speak to each other, just not as efficiently as Apple 
to Apple.  There are links out there that explain how to use Apple Music on 
your Alexa device that would probably do better than I could in a short message 
here.  Again, it's not the smoothest relationship, but it is doable in specific 
situations.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jan 15, 2019, at 09:21, Karen Lewellen  wrote:

Actually, is it truly?
Amazon  wants you to focus on their service when using their devices, so they  
have little reason to support Apple music, certainly not if they prefer you use 
their own.
additionally, I had a thought while writing  this message.  granted I do not 
use either service, but wonder if there might be a copyright factor crossing 
platforms like this, especially where the licensing rights are concerned?
someone told me ages back that ITunes used to be rather destructive where 
private music libraries are concerned, our desire to play files of your own via 
ITunes I mean.
Speaking very personally,  as someone who still has a stereo...complete with  
turntable smiles, I have to ask why a person needs access to both platforms  in 
a cross platform fashion?  Why do you need to play apple music   items using an 
amazon product and the other way around?  or why one needs  playlists in both 
platforms?
Just curious frankly,
Kare



On Tue, 15 Jan 2019, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

> Hey Shawn,
> 
> Well, it seems that we--or at least some of us--in the U.S. don't get it 
> either.
> 
> I have Apple Music linked to Alexa on my phone, but when I try to play it on 
> the Sonos 1 using Alexa, she says "Apple Music is not supported on this 
> device.  To play Apple Music, I actually have to use Siri on my phone with 
> AirPlay.  Pretty Lame, imho.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> 
>> On Jan 15, 2019, at 1:22 AM, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Simon. We countries that don't have the initials USA in their names don't 
>> get Apple Music on the Echo just yet. Don't know why but that's Apple and 
>> Amazon for ya.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Shawn,
>> Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air
>> 
>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com> 
>> <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com>>
>> 
>>> On Jan 14, 2019, at 12:05 AM, Simon Fogarty >> <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com> <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com 
>>> <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Donna,
>>> 
>>> From your phone yes, anything that is internal to your phones music 
>>> collection  you can play through alexa.
>>> 
>>> Also apple music is available through amazon alexa now or at least on echo 
>>> devices.
>>> 
>>> I've been trying to get my itunes library from my server to be seen by my 
>>> echo but I've had no luck.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>>
>>> Sent: Monday, 14 January 2019 4:53 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
>>> Subject: Does anyone know if it’s possible to play your iTunes library 
>>> using Alexa?
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> After about a month of trying to set up a smart home using Apple home, my 
>>> husband and I have finally given up and gone with Alexa. I would very much 
>>> like to be able to play my iTunes library on our Alexa device. Does anyone 
>>> know if there’s a way to do this?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> --
>>>

Re: Re: Does anyone know if it’s possible to play your iTunes library using Alexa?

2019-01-15 Thread Karen Lewellen

Actually, is it truly?
Amazon  wants you to focus on their service when using their devices, so 
they  have little reason to support Apple music, certainly not if they 
prefer you use their own.
additionally, I had a thought while writing  this message.  granted I do 
not use either service, but wonder if there might be a copyright factor 
crossing platforms like this, especially where the licensing rights are 
concerned?
someone told me ages back that ITunes used to be rather destructive where 
private music libraries are concerned, our desire to play files of your 
own via ITunes I mean.
Speaking very personally,  as someone who still has a stereo...complete 
with  turntable smiles, I have to ask why a person needs access to both 
platforms  in a cross platform fashion?  Why do you need to play apple 
music   items using an amazon product and the other way around?  or why 
one needs  playlists in both platforms?

Just curious frankly,
Kare



On Tue, 15 Jan 2019, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:


Hey Shawn,

Well, it seems that we--or at least some of us--in the U.S. don't get it either.

I have Apple Music linked to Alexa on my phone, but when I try to play it on the 
Sonos 1 using Alexa, she says "Apple Music is not supported on this device.  To 
play Apple Music, I actually have to use Siri on my phone with AirPlay.  Pretty 
Lame, imho.
Cheers,
Donna



On Jan 15, 2019, at 1:22 AM, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Hi Simon. We countries that don't have the initials USA in their names don't 
get Apple Music on the Echo just yet. Don't know why but that's Apple and 
Amazon for ya.

Regards,
Shawn,
Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air

Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com>


On Jan 14, 2019, at 12:05 AM, Simon Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Hi Donna,

From your phone yes, anything that is internal to your phones music collection  
you can play through alexa.

Also apple music is available through amazon alexa now or at least on echo 
devices.

I've been trying to get my itunes library from my server to be seen by my echo 
but I've had no luck.

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Subject: Does anyone know if it???s possible to play your iTunes library using 
Alexa?

Hi all,

After about a month of trying to set up a smart home using Apple home, my 
husband and I have finally given up and gone with Alexa. I would very much like 
to be able to play my iTunes library on our Alexa device. Does anyone know if 
there???s a way to do this?
Thanks,
Donna

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Re: Does anyone know if it’s possible to play your iTunes library using Alexa?

2019-01-15 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Hey Shawn,

Well, it seems that we--or at least some of us--in the U.S. don't get it either.

I have Apple Music linked to Alexa on my phone, but when I try to play it on 
the Sonos 1 using Alexa, she says "Apple Music is not supported on this device. 
 To play Apple Music, I actually have to use Siri on my phone with AirPlay.  
Pretty Lame, imho.
Cheers,
Donna


> On Jan 15, 2019, at 1:22 AM, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Simon. We countries that don't have the initials USA in their names don't 
> get Apple Music on the Echo just yet. Don't know why but that's Apple and 
> Amazon for ya.
> 
> Regards,
> Shawn,
> Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air
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>> On Jan 14, 2019, at 12:05 AM, Simon Fogarty > <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Donna,
>> 
>> From your phone yes, anything that is internal to your phones music 
>> collection  you can play through alexa.
>> 
>> Also apple music is available through amazon alexa now or at least on echo 
>> devices.
>> 
>> I've been trying to get my itunes library from my server to be seen by my 
>> echo but I've had no luck.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> Sent: Monday, 14 January 2019 4:53 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Does anyone know if it’s possible to play your iTunes library using 
>> Alexa?
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> After about a month of trying to set up a smart home using Apple home, my 
>> husband and I have finally given up and gone with Alexa. I would very much 
>> like to be able to play my iTunes library on our Alexa device. Does anyone 
>> know if there’s a way to do this?
>> Thanks,
>> Donna
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Does anyone know if it’s possible to play your iTunes library using Alexa?

2019-01-15 Thread Pete Nalda
I saw someone bluetoothing their phone to an amazon echo and playing music in 
their iTunes library that way. Not elegant, but functional. 

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> On Jan 15, 2019, at 1:51 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi Donna
> 
> Yeah that makes sense,
> 
> I can get my apple music to play but it was my own library I wanted.
> 
> Cheers though.
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Subject: Re: Does anyone know if it’s possible to play your iTunes library 
> using Alexa?
> 
> Hey Simon,
> 
> I don't think you can play your library on an Eco, except through Apple music.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> 
>> On Jan 14, 2019, at 12:05 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Donna,
>> 
>> From your phone yes, anything that is internal to your phones music 
>> collection  you can play through alexa.
>> 
>> Also apple music is available through amazon alexa now or at least on echo 
>> devices.
>> 
>> I've been trying to get my itunes library from my server to be seen by my 
>> echo but I've had no luck.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  
>> Sent: Monday, 14 January 2019 4:53 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Does anyone know if it’s possible to play your iTunes library using 
>> Alexa?
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> After about a month of trying to set up a smart home using Apple home, my 
>> husband and I have finally given up and gone with Alexa. I would very much 
>> like to be able to play my iTunes library on our Alexa device. Does anyone 
>> know if there’s a way to do this?
>> Thanks,
>> Donna
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Does anyone know if it’s possible to play your iTunes library using Alexa?

2019-01-14 Thread Simon Fogarty
Hi Donna

Yeah that makes sense,

I can get my apple music to play but it was my own library I wanted.

Cheers though.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Tuesday, 15 January 2019 1:00 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Does anyone know if it’s possible to play your iTunes library 
using Alexa?

Hey Simon,

I don't think you can play your library on an Eco, except through Apple music.
Cheers,
Donna


> On Jan 14, 2019, at 12:05 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi Donna,
> 
> From your phone yes, anything that is internal to your phones music 
> collection  you can play through alexa.
> 
> Also apple music is available through amazon alexa now or at least on echo 
> devices.
> 
> I've been trying to get my itunes library from my server to be seen by my 
> echo but I've had no luck.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  
> Sent: Monday, 14 January 2019 4:53 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Does anyone know if it’s possible to play your iTunes library using 
> Alexa?
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> After about a month of trying to set up a smart home using Apple home, my 
> husband and I have finally given up and gone with Alexa. I would very much 
> like to be able to play my iTunes library on our Alexa device. Does anyone 
> know if there’s a way to do this?
> Thanks,
> Donna
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Does anyone know if it’s possible to play your iTunes library using Alexa?

2019-01-14 Thread 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries
Hi Simon. We countries that don't have the initials USA in their names don't 
get Apple Music on the Echo just yet. Don't know why but that's Apple and 
Amazon for ya.

Regards,
Shawn,
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> On Jan 14, 2019, at 12:05 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi Donna,
> 
> From your phone yes, anything that is internal to your phones music 
> collection  you can play through alexa.
> 
> Also apple music is available through amazon alexa now or at least on echo 
> devices.
> 
> I've been trying to get my itunes library from my server to be seen by my 
> echo but I've had no luck.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  
> Sent: Monday, 14 January 2019 4:53 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Does anyone know if it’s possible to play your iTunes library using 
> Alexa?
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> After about a month of trying to set up a smart home using Apple home, my 
> husband and I have finally given up and gone with Alexa. I would very much 
> like to be able to play my iTunes library on our Alexa device. Does anyone 
> know if there’s a way to do this?
> Thanks,
> Donna
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Does anyone know if it’s possible to play your iTunes library using Alexa?

2019-01-14 Thread 'Catherine Turner' via MacVisionaries
Hi,

Well I haven't tried this myself yet but apparently there are ways
around it.  Have a read of this:
https://www.techhive.com/article/3257787/speakers/how-to-play-music-you-own-on-an-amazon-echo.html

Catherine

On 1/14/19, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
 wrote:
> Hey Simon,
>
> I don't think you can play your library on an Eco, except through Apple
> music.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>
>
>> On Jan 14, 2019, at 12:05 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Donna,
>>
>> From your phone yes, anything that is internal to your phones music
>> collection  you can play through alexa.
>>
>> Also apple music is available through amazon alexa now or at least on echo
>> devices.
>>
>> I've been trying to get my itunes library from my server to be seen by my
>> echo but I've had no luck.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>
>> Sent: Monday, 14 January 2019 4:53 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Does anyone know if it’s possible to play your iTunes library
>> using Alexa?
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> After about a month of trying to set up a smart home using Apple home, my
>> husband and I have finally given up and gone with Alexa. I would very much
>> like to be able to play my iTunes library on our Alexa device. Does anyone
>> know if there’s a way to do this?
>> Thanks,
>> Donna
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Does anyone know if it’s possible to play your iTunes library using Alexa?

2019-01-14 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Hey Simon,

I don't think you can play your library on an Eco, except through Apple music.
Cheers,
Donna


> On Jan 14, 2019, at 12:05 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi Donna,
> 
> From your phone yes, anything that is internal to your phones music 
> collection  you can play through alexa.
> 
> Also apple music is available through amazon alexa now or at least on echo 
> devices.
> 
> I've been trying to get my itunes library from my server to be seen by my 
> echo but I've had no luck.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  
> Sent: Monday, 14 January 2019 4:53 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Does anyone know if it’s possible to play your iTunes library using 
> Alexa?
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> After about a month of trying to set up a smart home using Apple home, my 
> husband and I have finally given up and gone with Alexa. I would very much 
> like to be able to play my iTunes library on our Alexa device. Does anyone 
> know if there’s a way to do this?
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> Donna
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RE: Does anyone know if it’s possible to play your iTunes library using Alexa?

2019-01-13 Thread Simon Fogarty
Hi Donna,

>From your phone yes, anything that is internal to your phones music collection 
> you can play through alexa.

Also apple music is available through amazon alexa now or at least on echo 
devices.

I've been trying to get my itunes library from my server to be seen by my echo 
but I've had no luck.

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Subject: Does anyone know if it’s possible to play your iTunes library using 
Alexa?

Hi all,

After about a month of trying to set up a smart home using Apple home, my 
husband and I have finally given up and gone with Alexa. I would very much like 
to be able to play my iTunes library on our Alexa device. Does anyone know if 
there’s a way to do this?
Thanks,
Donna

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Re: Does anyone know if it’s possible to play your iTunes library using Alexa?

2019-01-13 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
I got it up and running this afternoon.  thanks, though, Mary.
Cheers,
Donna


> On Jan 13, 2019, at 5:02 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Hi Donna, in order to set up Apple Music, you need to use the Alexa app on 
> your iPhone. This is what an article I found says to do, and I think it is 
> what I actually did. Open the Alexa app and tap the menu in the top left 
> corner. Of course for us it’s double tap. Next, double tap settings. Then 
> within the “Alexa preferences“, double tap “Linc new service“. Double tap 
> “Apple Music“.   Then double tap “in able“ then follow the instructions to 
> link your Apple ID.
> If you want Apple Music to be your default, which I did, you can after you 
> got it connected, go back into settings on your Alexa app.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 13, 2019, at 8:17 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Mary,
>> 
>> I just signed up  for Apple Music this morning. Still haven’t figured out 
>> quite how it works. If you have Apple Music, how do you go about playing 
>> your I tunes library?
>> Thanks,
>> Donna
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 13, 2019, at 9:57 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Donna,
>>> Is your iTunes library also part of an Apple Music library? That is, do you 
>>> have Apple Music? If so, then yes. If not, I am almost certain it’s not 
>>> possible. I have Apple Music. So my iTunes library is sort of the same as 
>>> my Apple Music library although not entirely, since I have a few things in 
>>> there that I didn’t buy or rip into iTunes but just entered through Apple 
>>> Music.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 13, 2019, at 7:53 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> After about a month of trying to set up a smart home using Apple home, my 
>>>> husband and I have finally given up and gone with Alexa. I would very much 
>>>> like to be able to play my iTunes library on our Alexa device. Does anyone 
>>>> know if there’s a way to do this?
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Donna
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Does anyone know if it’s possible to play your iTunes library using Alexa?

2019-01-13 Thread Mary Otten
Hi Donna, in order to set up Apple Music, you need to use the Alexa app on your 
iPhone. This is what an article I found says to do, and I think it is what I 
actually did. Open the Alexa app and tap the menu in the top left corner. Of 
course for us it’s double tap. Next, double tap settings. Then within the 
“Alexa preferences“, double tap “Linc new service“. Double tap “Apple Music“.   
Then double tap “in able“ then follow the instructions to link your Apple ID.
If you want Apple Music to be your default, which I did, you can after you got 
it connected, go back into settings on your Alexa app.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 13, 2019, at 8:17 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary,
> 
> I just signed up  for Apple Music this morning. Still haven’t figured out 
> quite how it works. If you have Apple Music, how do you go about playing your 
> I tunes library?
> Thanks,
> Donna
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 13, 2019, at 9:57 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Donna,
>> Is your iTunes library also part of an Apple Music library? That is, do you 
>> have Apple Music? If so, then yes. If not, I am almost certain it’s not 
>> possible. I have Apple Music. So my iTunes library is sort of the same as my 
>> Apple Music library although not entirely, since I have a few things in 
>> there that I didn’t buy or rip into iTunes but just entered through Apple 
>> Music.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 13, 2019, at 7:53 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> After about a month of trying to set up a smart home using Apple home, my 
>>> husband and I have finally given up and gone with Alexa. I would very much 
>>> like to be able to play my iTunes library on our Alexa device. Does anyone 
>>> know if there’s a way to do this?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Does anyone know if it’s possible to play your iTunes library using Alexa?

2019-01-13 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Hi Mary,

I just signed up  for Apple Music this morning. Still haven’t figured out quite 
how it works. If you have Apple Music, how do you go about playing your I tunes 
library?
Thanks,
Donna

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 13, 2019, at 9:57 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Hi Donna,
> Is your iTunes library also part of an Apple Music library? That is, do you 
> have Apple Music? If so, then yes. If not, I am almost certain it’s not 
> possible. I have Apple Music. So my iTunes library is sort of the same as my 
> Apple Music library although not entirely, since I have a few things in there 
> that I didn’t buy or rip into iTunes but just entered through Apple Music.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 13, 2019, at 7:53 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> After about a month of trying to set up a smart home using Apple home, my 
>> husband and I have finally given up and gone with Alexa. I would very much 
>> like to be able to play my iTunes library on our Alexa device. Does anyone 
>> know if there’s a way to do this?
>> Thanks,
>> Donna
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Does anyone know if it’s possible to play your iTunes library using Alexa?

2019-01-13 Thread Mary Otten
Hi Donna,
Is your iTunes library also part of an Apple Music library? That is, do you 
have Apple Music? If so, then yes. If not, I am almost certain it’s not 
possible. I have Apple Music. So my iTunes library is sort of the same as my 
Apple Music library although not entirely, since I have a few things in there 
that I didn’t buy or rip into iTunes but just entered through Apple Music.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

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>  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> After about a month of trying to set up a smart home using Apple home, my 
> husband and I have finally given up and gone with Alexa. I would very much 
> like to be able to play my iTunes library on our Alexa device. Does anyone 
> know if there’s a way to do this?
> Thanks,
> Donna
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Does anyone know if it’s possible to play your iTunes library using Alexa?

2019-01-13 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Hi all,

After about a month of trying to set up a smart home using Apple home, my 
husband and I have finally given up and gone with Alexa. I would very much like 
to be able to play my iTunes library on our Alexa device. Does anyone know if 
there’s a way to do this?
Thanks,
Donna

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Re: Sharing my iTunes video library

2018-12-26 Thread Maria Reyes
Hi, you can use family sharing to share apps, movies, and maybe videos. I'm not 
too sure about that. But that way, you don't have to share Apple IDs.

Sent from my Apple Watch

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> I have looked into the possibility of sharing my iTunes video library with my 
> husband. We both have Apple TVs. But we have different Apple ID’s. Of course 
> I have audio description enabled on my Apple TV, and he can’t stand it. From 
> the reading I have done, it sounds like all of the devices which will share 
> the library have to have the same Apple ID. So that’s not going to work for 
> us. Am I wrong? Is there a way that I can share my iTunes library with his 
> Apple TV even though his ID is different from mine?
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Sharing my iTunes video library

2018-12-26 Thread Mary Otten
I have looked into the possibility of sharing my iTunes video library with my 
husband. We both have Apple TVs. But we have different Apple ID’s. Of course I 
have audio description enabled on my Apple TV, and he can’t stand it. From the 
reading I have done, it sounds like all of the devices which will share the 
library have to have the same Apple ID. So that’s not going to work for us. Am 
I wrong? Is there a way that I can share my iTunes library with his Apple TV 
even though his ID is different from mine?
Mary


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RE: iTunes not seeing iPod Touch

2018-12-19 Thread Simon Fogarty
Once you've trusted what happens if you close and reopen itunes 

Does the pod not show up?

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Traci Duncan
Sent: Thursday, 20 December 2018 11:08 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iTunes not seeing iPod Touch

I had a message to trust this computer, but there was no pin.  Once I tapped 
trust, the iPod never showed up in iTunes.

Thanks,
Traci


> On Dec 13, 2018, at 10:40 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Tracey,
> 
> Did you have a message on your  iPod to trust the computer or on the computer 
> to unlock the device with your pin number?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Traci Duncan
> Sent: Thursday, 13 December 2018 7:05 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: iTunes not seeing iPod Touch
> 
> Any tips here? I connected my iTouch and went through the trust this 
> computer, but it didn’t show up in the menu. Now I can’t get iTunes to 
> recognize it at all.  I’ve tried both USB ports, restarted both device and 
> Mac. I’ve connected my iPhone and synced that up fine. I’ve looked at my 
> Mac’s system information and under USB it shows iPod.
> 
> *Shrugs, I’m at a loss. What do you guys recommend?
> 
> Thanks,
> Traci
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Re: iTunes not seeing iPod Touch

2018-12-19 Thread Traci Duncan
I had a message to trust this computer, but there was no pin.  Once I tapped 
trust, the iPod never showed up in iTunes.

Thanks,
Traci


> On Dec 13, 2018, at 10:40 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
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> Tracey,
> 
> Did you have a message on your  iPod to trust the computer or on the computer 
> to unlock the device with your pin number?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Traci Duncan
> Sent: Thursday, 13 December 2018 7:05 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: iTunes not seeing iPod Touch
> 
> Any tips here? I connected my iTouch and went through the trust this 
> computer, but it didn’t show up in the menu. Now I can’t get iTunes to 
> recognize it at all.  I’ve tried both USB ports, restarted both device and 
> Mac. I’ve connected my iPhone and synced that up fine. I’ve looked at my 
> Mac’s system information and under USB it shows iPod.
> 
> *Shrugs, I’m at a loss. What do you guys recommend?
> 
> Thanks,
> Traci
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RE: iTunes not seeing iPod Touch

2018-12-13 Thread Simon Fogarty
Tracey,

Did you have a message on your  iPod to trust the computer or on the computer 
to unlock the device with your pin number?

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Traci Duncan
Sent: Thursday, 13 December 2018 7:05 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: iTunes not seeing iPod Touch

Any tips here? I connected my iTouch and went through the trust this computer, 
but it didn’t show up in the menu. Now I can’t get iTunes to recognize it at 
all.  I’ve tried both USB ports, restarted both device and Mac. I’ve connected 
my iPhone and synced that up fine. I’ve looked at my Mac’s system information 
and under USB it shows iPod.

*Shrugs, I’m at a loss. What do you guys recommend?

Thanks,
Traci

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Re: iTunes not seeing iPod Touch

2018-12-12 Thread John Panarese
   I know with my iPod touch, it takes several minutes before it shows up in 
iTunes. I don’t know why, but it can take up to five plus minutes before you 
see the iPod register and you can access it.


> On Dec 12, 2018, at 1:05 PM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
> 
> Any tips here? I connected my iTouch and went through the trust this 
> computer, but it didn’t show up in the menu. Now I can’t get iTunes to 
> recognize it at all.  I’ve tried both USB ports, restarted both device and 
> Mac. I’ve connected my iPhone and synced that up fine. I’ve looked at my 
> Mac’s system information and under USB it shows iPod.
> 
> *Shrugs, I’m at a loss. What do you guys recommend?
> 
> Thanks,
> Traci
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iTunes not seeing iPod Touch

2018-12-12 Thread Traci Duncan
Any tips here? I connected my iTouch and went through the trust this computer, 
but it didn’t show up in the menu. Now I can’t get iTunes to recognize it at 
all.  I’ve tried both USB ports, restarted both device and Mac. I’ve connected 
my iPhone and synced that up fine. I’ve looked at my Mac’s system information 
and under USB it shows iPod.

*Shrugs, I’m at a loss. What do you guys recommend?

Thanks,
Traci

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RE: How to sign up for iTunes match if you are running a Windows PC

2018-11-28 Thread Simon Fogarty
Hi Mary,

Get him to try this 


Subscribe to iTunes Match. Open iTunes on a Mac or PC. At the top of the iTunes 
window, click Store. Under Music Quick Links at the right side of the window, 
click iTunes Match. Click the Subscribe button.


Hope that helps.
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To: viph...@googlegroups.com; macvisionaries@googlegroups.com; 
mac4thebl...@freelists.org
Subject: How to sign up for iTunes match if you are running a Windows PC

I am asking this question for a friend. I have been signed up with iTunes match 
for several years, so I have no idea how to help him. He does not have a mask. 
He does have a Windows PC, and he does have a bunch of stuff in iTunes. He was 
trying to sign up for iTunes match and was not successful. So the question: how 
to sign up for iTunes match if you are running a Windows PC?
Mary


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How to sign up for iTunes match if you are running a Windows PC

2018-11-28 Thread Mary Otten
I am asking this question for a friend. I have been signed up with iTunes match 
for several years, so I have no idea how to help him. He does not have a mask. 
He does have a Windows PC, and he does have a bunch of stuff in iTunes. He was 
trying to sign up for iTunes match and was not successful. So the question: how 
to sign up for iTunes match if you are running a Windows PC?
Mary


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Black Friday 2018: Get the $100 App Store and iTunes Gift Card for $80 Today Only

2018-11-23 Thread Mary Otten
This is the first 20% off of iTunes gift cards I have seen in a very very long 
time. 15% is not uncommon. But at least in my experience, 20% is much less 
common.

Black Friday 2018: Get the $100 App Store and iTunes Gift Card for $80 Today 
Only
MacRumors: Mac News and Rumors  /  Mitchel Broussard

App Store and iTunes gift cards are perfect stocking stuffers and super simple 
for last-minute gift giving, so if you're on the hunt for a few of the gift 
cards this Black Friday we've rounded up the best sales in this article. 

Note: MacRumors is an affiliate partner with some of these vendors. When you 
click a link and make a purchase, we may receive a small payment, which helps 
us keep the site running. 

Amazon and Costco offer the biggest discount on iTunes gift cards this Black 
Friday, providing rare 20 percent discounts on the cards today only. Like many 
of the sales in the list below, Amazon and Costco will send the iTunes gift 
card to you in an e-mail within a few hours of purchase. These 20 percent 
discounts on iTunes gift cards are rare, so if you're interested check out the 
sales -- and all of the others -- in the list below: 
Amazon - Get the $100 iTunes gift card for $80 (with code ITUNES20)

Costco - Get the $100 iTunes gift card for $79.49

Costco - Get the $25 iTunes gift card for $21.49

PayPal via eBay - Get the $100 iTunes gift card for $85

Target - Buy one get one 30 percent off

Best Buy - Get the $50 iTunes gift card for $40

Staples - Save 10 percent on select iTunes gift cards

Meijer - Get the $25 iTunes gift card for $21.25
If you decide to go with Target's offer, opting for the higher $100 iTunes gift 
card will net you the biggest savings. As an example, BOGO 30 percent off deals 
(when purchasing two cards of the same amount) will break down like this: 

- Buying two $15 iTunes Gift Cards = $25.50 
- Buying two $25 iTunes Gift Card = $42.50 
- Buying two $50 iTunes Gift Card = $85 
- Buying two $100 iTunes Gift Card = $170 

For more details on the latest Black Friday shopping updates, be sure to visit 
our full Black Friday Roundup.

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Re: iTunes layout?

2018-11-21 Thread Jonathan Cohn
In my iTunes, I can choose between Grid layout and list layout and when the 
interaction level is high enough when in list view, the arrow keys will read 
the entire row. Now, you can adjust what is in that row by looking at the 
scroll area of the dialog brought up with command-J (View Option).

HTH,

Jonathan

> On Nov 20, 2018, at 12:03 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
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> Hi,
> 
> Try to change the style of view.  For example, when the playlist is selected, 
> go up to the View menu, down to View As, and right to Playlist.  It sounds 
> like you are currently in the Songs view, so Playlist view may be more what 
> you're hoping for.
> 
> Later...
> 
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> 
> On Nov 20, 2018, at 09:29, Matt Turner  <mailto:meturner2...@gmail.com>> wrote:
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> Hi, let me see if I can explane this.
> So in windows using, NVDA let's say the track number/ name is 01.untitled.
> It would read all that at the same time.
> With voiceover, I need to vo left, then I see the track number 01, then vo 
> left then i see the tracks title.
> It’s just something I’ll have to get used to maybe.   
> 
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>> Hi,
>> 
>> How does it do it in Windows?  Not sure exactly what you want here.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
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>> 
>> On Nov 20, 2018, at 07:47, Matt Turner > <mailto:meturner2...@gmail.com>> wrote:
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>> Hi folks.
>> Just wondering if there’s a way to have vo speak the track number/ title 
>> like it does in windows?
>> If I’m on a song, I have to vo left, then I here the track number, then if I 
>> vo left again, I here the track title.
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Re: iTunes layout?

2018-11-20 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi,

Try to change the style of view.  For example, when the playlist is selected, 
go up to the View menu, down to View As, and right to Playlist.  It sounds like 
you are currently in the Songs view, so Playlist view may be more what you're 
hoping for.

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On Nov 20, 2018, at 09:29, Matt Turner  wrote:

Hi, let me see if I can explane this.
So in windows using, NVDA let's say the track number/ name is 01.untitled.
It would read all that at the same time.
With voiceover, I need to vo left, then I see the track number 01, then vo left 
then i see the tracks title.
It’s just something I’ll have to get used to maybe. 

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Re: iTunes layout?

2018-11-20 Thread Matt Turner
Hi, let me see if I can explane this.
So in windows using, NVDA let's say the track number/ name is 01.untitled.
It would read all that at the same time.
With voiceover, I need to vo left, then I see the track number 01, then vo left 
then i see the tracks title.
It’s just something I’ll have to get used to maybe. 

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Re: iTunes layout?

2018-11-20 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi,

How does it do it in Windows?  Not sure exactly what you want here.

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Just wondering if there’s a way to have vo speak the track number/ title like 
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iTunes layout?

2018-11-20 Thread Matt Turner
Hi folks.
Just wondering if there’s a way to have vo speak the track number/ title like 
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Re: Audio Description in iTunes Store

2018-11-19 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
   Thanks Tim and Ray. I will delve into this during the week. Just 
might find some treasure.


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On 11/18/2018 7:20 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,

Yes, the iTunes Store offers a lot of content with Audio Descriptions. 
  You used to be able to enter "audio description" in the Search field 
and you'd get the titles.  I'm not sure if that is still the case.  You 
can, though, know if a title has audio descriptions when going to the 
page for a specific movie.  For example, choose a Marvel title like one 
of the Captain America movies, or one of the Harry Potter titles, and 
you should hear a notation for Close Captioning and one for Audio 
Description.  I believe that it says something like CC and AD after the 
title in one of the headings.


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   Question came to mind tonight. Does the iTunes store offer video 
content with audio description? If it does, is it called audio 
description or something else?


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Re: Audio Description in iTunes Store

2018-11-18 Thread Raymond Foret Jr
You’re overlooking another method.

Go to:

iTunes.com/audiodescription

and there they will all be.

No TV shows yet but just movies.


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Sincerely,

The constantly barefooted Ray

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> Yes, the iTunes Store offers a lot of content with Audio Descriptions.  You 
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> know if a title has audio descriptions when going to the page for a specific 
> movie.  For example, choose a Marvel title like one of the Captain America 
> movies, or one of the Harry Potter titles, and you should hear a notation for 
> Close Captioning and one for Audio Description.  I believe that it says 
> something like CC and AD after the title in one of the headings.
> 
> Later...
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Re: Audio Description in iTunes Store

2018-11-18 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi,

Yes, the iTunes Store offers a lot of content with Audio Descriptions.  You 
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one of the Harry Potter titles, and you should hear a notation for Close 
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like CC and AD after the title in one of the headings.

Later...

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Fort McMurray, AB Canada

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  Question came to mind tonight. Does the iTunes store offer video content with 
audio description? If it does, is it called audio description or something else?

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Audio Description in iTunes Store

2018-11-18 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
   Question came to mind tonight. Does the iTunes store offer video 
content with audio description? If it does, is it called audio 
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Re: iTunes under Mojave Issue

2018-11-04 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
   All sorted out. iTunes Media is the correct folder for the library. 
What I probably needed was to consolidate it, not sure but it is in 
working order now and Apple TV sees the library.


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Hmmm.  That's not what is supposed to happen when you consolidate.  I 
know that computers don't always do what they're supposed to, but the 
consolidation is supposed to organize everything properly.  Oh well.  In 
either case, I'm not sure why you're having that problem.  I tested it 
here and all is normal.


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   I had done that and everything was moved out of the iTunes Media 
folder, very messy. So I did a restore, redownloaded the TV shows and 
got the same result.


   Everything went fine when iTunes was pointed to the iTunes Media 
folder. I don't know what I may have changed after installing Mojave and 
I ended up pointing to the iTunes folder to resolve something else. 
Strange because I have done perhaps 3-4 clean installs.


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Hi,
In some ways, it just doesn't matter, but if you really wish to try, 
you could go under the File menu in iTunes, down to Library, then 
right and down to Organize Library.  See if that cleans things up for you.

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Mojave. Instead of these shows being placed in the TV Shows folder 
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  I can see them fine in iTunes and in Apple TV. How best to correct 
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Re: iTunes under Mojave Issue

2018-11-02 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hmmm.  That's not what is supposed to happen when you consolidate.  I know that 
computers don't always do what they're supposed to, but the consolidation is 
supposed to organize everything properly.  Oh well.  In either case, I'm not 
sure why you're having that problem.  I tested it here and all is normal.

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  I had done that and everything was moved out of the iTunes Media folder, very 
messy. So I did a restore, redownloaded the TV shows and got the same result.

  Everything went fine when iTunes was pointed to the iTunes Media folder. I 
don't know what I may have changed after installing Mojave and I ended up 
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> In some ways, it just doesn't matter, but if you really wish to try, you 
> could go under the File menu in iTunes, down to Library, then right and down 
> to Organize Library.  See if that cleans things up for you.
> Later...
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>   I can see them fine in iTunes and in Apple TV. How best to correct this? 
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Re: iTunes under Mojave Issue

2018-11-02 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
   I had done that and everything was moved out of the iTunes Media 
folder, very messy. So I did a restore, redownloaded the TV shows and 
got the same result.


   Everything went fine when iTunes was pointed to the iTunes Media 
folder. I don't know what I may have changed after installing Mojave and 
I ended up pointing to the iTunes folder to resolve something else. 
Strange because I have done perhaps 3-4 clean installs.


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Hi,

In some ways, it just doesn't matter, but if you really wish to try, you 
could go under the File menu in iTunes, down to Library, then right and 
down to Organize Library.  See if that cleans things up for you.


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   I can see them fine in iTunes and in Apple TV. How best to correct 
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Re: iTunes under Mojave Issue

2018-11-02 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi,

In some ways, it just doesn't matter, but if you really wish to try, you could 
go under the File menu in iTunes, down to Library, then right and down to 
Organize Library.  See if that cleans things up for you.

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  I purchased a couple TV shows this week, first time since installing Mojave. 
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iTunes under Mojave Issue

2018-11-02 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
   I purchased a couple TV shows this week, first time since installing 
Mojave. Instead of these shows being placed in the TV Shows folder under 
iTunes Media. They are in a TV Shows folder under the iTunes folder.


   I can see them fine in iTunes and in Apple TV. How best to correct 
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RE: Mojave and iTunes Library

2018-10-15 Thread Simon Fogarty
Hey ET,

Sorry to here about your trekking,

If I had of known last week,
I could have got a message to captain kerk,
He was here in NZ to open Rocket Labs a new space agency here in NZ.

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Subject: Re: Mojave and iTunes Library

Hi,

That's a travesty, missing Star Trek.  Especially, when you yourself are 
extra-terrestrial.

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  Nothing seems to work. I have disconnected the external drive and I still see 
the content in iTunes and I have repeated changing the location in preferences. 
The only thing I have not done is to reboot Apple TV, I miss my Star Trek. :)

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Hi,
It doesn't sound like you did anything wrong to me.  I suggest you disconnect 
then reconnect and make sure to have your computer handy in case there's any 
security code that is required now.
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location, and turning on Home Sharing, my Apple TV says there is no content in 
the library. What am I missing here? Thanks.
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Re: Mojave and iTunes Library

2018-10-14 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries

   Good! (grins)

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She couldn't reach while she was driving ;).

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   All squared away. That was why ATV didn't see any content. I changed 
the location to that parent folder and its good now. Good thing your 
wife did not toss your laptop out the window this summer. :)


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ET,
Normally, when choosing an iTunes library from the Option key, I 
suggest you pick the iTunes parent folder,, not the iTunes Media 
folder.  Since the parent folder contains the ITL and other database 
files, the proper libraries are normally chosen.  It looks like what 
you did worked anyway, so good work.

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Tim,
  Had a hunch so while holding the option key I opened iTunes and 
tried choosing the library that way. Selected the iTunes Media folder 
and opened it. Got an error message and googled it. Eventually found 
the fix was to select the .itl file directly. But it was old so copied 
the most current one from backup. That did it and I watched Star Trek. :)
  I don't know why that most current file was not on the external 
drive but was on the backup drive which I run weekly. Strange.

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Hi,
H.  That's interesting indeed.  I checked on my system and 
everything is fine.  When I connect to my MBP with Mojave, I see the 
local media, but not the iCloud Music Library based content.  When I 
connect to my El Capitan server, I see everything there as well. 
 Sure does sound like a security thing to me, but I'm not sure where 
the problem lies.

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  Neither. Everything is in the library on the external drive. I 
booted High Sierra which I had cloned to another drive and its all 
working there. Checked settings, didn't see anything different.

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Hi,
Are you using Apple Music or iTunes Match?  Just checking to make 
sure that your music is stored locally instead of being Cloud based. 
 If you connect to a computer where the music is primarily streamed 
instead of being stored locally, that Library may show as having no 
content.

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On Oct 13, 2018, at 13:21, Tim Kilburn <mailto:kilbu...@me.com> <mailto:kilbu...@me.com> 
<mailto:kilbu...@me.com> <mailto:kilbu...@me.com>> wrote:

Hi,
That's a travesty, missing Star Trek.  Especially, when you yourself 
are extra-terrestrial.

Later
Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
On Oct 13, 2018, at 13:11, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
  Nothing seems to work. I have disconnected the external drive and 
I still see the content in iTunes and I have repeated changing the 
location in preferences. The only thing I have not done is to reboot 
Apple TV, I miss my Star Trek. :)

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Re: Mojave and iTunes Library

2018-10-14 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
She couldn't reach while she was driving ;).

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Oct 14, 2018, at 10:05, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

  All squared away. That was why ATV didn't see any content. I changed the 
location to that parent folder and its good now. Good thing your wife did not 
toss your laptop out the window this summer. :)

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On 10/13/2018 9:56 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> ET,
> Normally, when choosing an iTunes library from the Option key, I suggest you 
> pick the iTunes parent folder,, not the iTunes Media folder.  Since the 
> parent folder contains the ITL and other database files, the proper libraries 
> are normally chosen.  It looks like what you did worked anyway, so good work.
> Later...
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> On Oct 13, 2018, at 22:23, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> Tim,
>   Had a hunch so while holding the option key I opened iTunes and tried 
> choosing the library that way. Selected the iTunes Media folder and opened 
> it. Got an error message and googled it. Eventually found the fix was to 
> select the .itl file directly. But it was old so copied the most current one 
> from backup. That did it and I watched Star Trek. :)
>   I don't know why that most current file was not on the external drive but 
> was on the backup drive which I run weekly. Strange.
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> in the past. What if it were true?
> On 10/13/2018 1:01 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> Hi,
>> H.  That's interesting indeed.  I checked on my system and everything is 
>> fine.  When I connect to my MBP with Mojave, I see the local media, but not 
>> the iCloud Music Library based content.  When I connect to my El Capitan 
>> server, I see everything there as well.  Sure does sound like a security 
>> thing to me, but I'm not sure where the problem lies.
>> Later...
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> On Oct 13, 2018, at 13:48, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>>   Neither. Everything is in the library on the external drive. I booted High 
>> Sierra which I had cloned to another drive and its all working there. 
>> Checked settings, didn't see anything different.
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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>> <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
>> Many believe that we have been visited
>> in the past. What if it were true?
>> On 10/13/2018 12:36 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> Are you using Apple Music or iTunes Match?  Just checking to make sure that 
>>> your music is stored locally instead of being Cloud based.  If you connect 
>>> to a computer where the music is primarily streamed instead of being stored 
>>> locally, that Library may show as having no content.
>>> Later...
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> On Oct 13, 2018, at 13:21, Tim Kilburn >> <mailto:kilbu...@me.com> <mailto:kilbu...@me.com> <mailto:kilbu...@me.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> That's a travesty, missing Star Trek.  Especially, when you yourself are 
>>> extra-terrestrial.
>>> Later
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> On Oct 13, 2018, at 13:11, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>>>   Nothing seems to work. I have disconnected the external drive and I still 
>>> see the content in iTunes and I have repeated changing the location in 
>>> preferences. The only thing I have not done is to reboot Apple TV, I miss 
>>> my Star Trek. :)
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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>>> <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com> <mailto:ancient

Re: Mojave and iTunes Library

2018-10-14 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
   All squared away. That was why ATV didn't see any content. I changed 
the location to that parent folder and its good now. Good thing your 
wife did not toss your laptop out the window this summer. :)


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On 10/13/2018 9:56 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:

ET,

Normally, when choosing an iTunes library from the Option key, I suggest 
you pick the iTunes parent folder,, not the iTunes Media folder.  Since 
the parent folder contains the ITL and other database files, the proper 
libraries are normally chosen.  It looks like what you did worked 
anyway, so good work.


Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Oct 13, 2018, at 22:23, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:


Tim,
   Had a hunch so while holding the option key I opened iTunes and tried 
choosing the library that way. Selected the iTunes Media folder and 
opened it. Got an error message and googled it. Eventually found the fix 
was to select the .itl file directly. But it was old so copied the most 
current one from backup. That did it and I watched Star Trek. :)


   I don't know why that most current file was not on the external drive 
but was on the backup drive which I run weekly. Strange.


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On 10/13/2018 1:01 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,
H.  That's interesting indeed.  I checked on my system and 
everything is fine.  When I connect to my MBP with Mojave, I see the 
local media, but not the iCloud Music Library based content.  When I 
connect to my El Capitan server, I see everything there as well.  Sure 
does sound like a security thing to me, but I'm not sure where the 
problem lies.

Later...
Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
On Oct 13, 2018, at 13:48, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
  Neither. Everything is in the library on the external drive. I 
booted High Sierra which I had cloned to another drive and its all 
working there. Checked settings, didn't see anything different.

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<mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>

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On 10/13/2018 12:36 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,
Are you using Apple Music or iTunes Match?  Just checking to make 
sure that your music is stored locally instead of being Cloud based. 
 If you connect to a computer where the music is primarily streamed 
instead of being stored locally, that Library may show as having no 
content.

Later...
Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
On Oct 13, 2018, at 13:21, Tim Kilburn <mailto:kilbu...@me.com> <mailto:kilbu...@me.com> 
<mailto:kilbu...@me.com>> wrote:

Hi,
That's a travesty, missing Star Trek.  Especially, when you yourself 
are extra-terrestrial.

Later
Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
On Oct 13, 2018, at 13:11, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
  Nothing seems to work. I have disconnected the external drive and I 
still see the content in iTunes and I have repeated changing the 
location in preferences. The only thing I have not done is to reboot 
Apple TV, I miss my Star Trek. :)

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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On 10/13/2018 11:45 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,
It doesn't sound like you did anything wrong to me.  I suggest you 
disconnect then reconnect and make sure to have your computer handy 
in case there's any security code that is required now.

Later...
Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
On Oct 12, 2018, at 16:23, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
  After installing Mojave, and setting up the iTunes library, 
pointing to its location, and turning on Home Sharing, my Apple TV 
says there is no content in the library. What am I missing here?

Re: Mojave and iTunes Library

2018-10-13 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
ET,

Normally, when choosing an iTunes library from the Option key, I suggest you 
pick the iTunes parent folder,, not the iTunes Media folder.  Since the parent 
folder contains the ITL and other database files, the proper libraries are 
normally chosen.  It looks like what you did worked anyway, so good work.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Oct 13, 2018, at 22:23, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Tim,
  Had a hunch so while holding the option key I opened iTunes and tried 
choosing the library that way. Selected the iTunes Media folder and opened it. 
Got an error message and googled it. Eventually found the fix was to select the 
.itl file directly. But it was old so copied the most current one from backup. 
That did it and I watched Star Trek. :)

  I don't know why that most current file was not on the external drive but was 
on the backup drive which I run weekly. Strange.

>From E.T.'s Keyboard...
  ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 10/13/2018 1:01 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> Hi,
> H.  That's interesting indeed.  I checked on my system and everything is 
> fine.  When I connect to my MBP with Mojave, I see the local media, but not 
> the iCloud Music Library based content.  When I connect to my El Capitan 
> server, I see everything there as well.  Sure does sound like a security 
> thing to me, but I'm not sure where the problem lies.
> Later...
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> On Oct 13, 2018, at 13:48, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
>   Neither. Everything is in the library on the external drive. I booted High 
> Sierra which I had cloned to another drive and its all working there. Checked 
> settings, didn't see anything different.
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> On 10/13/2018 12:36 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Are you using Apple Music or iTunes Match?  Just checking to make sure that 
>> your music is stored locally instead of being Cloud based.  If you connect 
>> to a computer where the music is primarily streamed instead of being stored 
>> locally, that Library may show as having no content.
>> Later...
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> On Oct 13, 2018, at 13:21, Tim Kilburn > <mailto:kilbu...@me.com> <mailto:kilbu...@me.com>> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> That's a travesty, missing Star Trek.  Especially, when you yourself are 
>> extra-terrestrial.
>> Later
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> On Oct 13, 2018, at 13:11, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>>   Nothing seems to work. I have disconnected the external drive and I still 
>> see the content in iTunes and I have repeated changing the location in 
>> preferences. The only thing I have not done is to reboot Apple TV, I miss my 
>> Star Trek. :)
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com> 
>> <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
>> Many believe that we have been visited
>> in the past. What if it were true?
>> On 10/13/2018 11:45 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> It doesn't sound like you did anything wrong to me.  I suggest you 
>>> disconnect then reconnect and make sure to have your computer handy in case 
>>> there's any security code that is required now.
>>> Later...
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> On Oct 12, 2018, at 16:23, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>>>   After installing Mojave, and setting up the iTunes library, pointing to 
>>> its location, and turning on Home Sharing, my Apple TV says there is no 
>>> content in the library. What am I missing here? Thanks.
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com> 
>>> <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>

Re: Mojave and iTunes Library

2018-10-13 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries

Tim,
   Had a hunch so while holding the option key I opened iTunes and 
tried choosing the library that way. Selected the iTunes Media folder 
and opened it. Got an error message and googled it. Eventually found the 
fix was to select the .itl file directly. But it was old so copied the 
most current one from backup. That did it and I watched Star Trek. :)


   I don't know why that most current file was not on the external 
drive but was on the backup drive which I run weekly. Strange.


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On 10/13/2018 1:01 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,

H.  That's interesting indeed.  I checked on my system and 
everything is fine.  When I connect to my MBP with Mojave, I see the 
local media, but not the iCloud Music Library based content.  When I 
connect to my El Capitan server, I see everything there as well.  Sure 
does sound like a security thing to me, but I'm not sure where the 
problem lies.


Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Oct 13, 2018, at 13:48, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:


   Neither. Everything is in the library on the external drive. I booted 
High Sierra which I had cloned to another drive and its all working 
there. Checked settings, didn't see anything different.


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On 10/13/2018 12:36 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,
Are you using Apple Music or iTunes Match?  Just checking to make sure 
that your music is stored locally instead of being Cloud based.  If 
you connect to a computer where the music is primarily streamed 
instead of being stored locally, that Library may show as having no 
content.

Later...
Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
On Oct 13, 2018, at 13:21, Tim Kilburn <mailto:kilbu...@me.com> <mailto:kilbu...@me.com>> wrote:

Hi,
That's a travesty, missing Star Trek.  Especially, when you yourself 
are extra-terrestrial.

Later
Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
On Oct 13, 2018, at 13:11, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
  Nothing seems to work. I have disconnected the external drive and I 
still see the content in iTunes and I have repeated changing the 
location in preferences. The only thing I have not done is to reboot 
Apple TV, I miss my Star Trek. :)

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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<mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>

Many believe that we have been visited
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On 10/13/2018 11:45 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,
It doesn't sound like you did anything wrong to me.  I suggest you 
disconnect then reconnect and make sure to have your computer handy 
in case there's any security code that is required now.

Later...
Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
On Oct 12, 2018, at 16:23, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
  After installing Mojave, and setting up the iTunes library, 
pointing to its location, and turning on Home Sharing, my Apple TV 
says there is no content in the library. What am I missing here? Thanks.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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Re: Mojave and iTunes Library

2018-10-13 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
   If its related to security, when I turn on the Apple TV next, I will 
come upstairs and check the Mac.


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On 10/13/2018 1:01 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,

H.  That's interesting indeed.  I checked on my system and 
everything is fine.  When I connect to my MBP with Mojave, I see the 
local media, but not the iCloud Music Library based content.  When I 
connect to my El Capitan server, I see everything there as well.  Sure 
does sound like a security thing to me, but I'm not sure where the 
problem lies.


Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Oct 13, 2018, at 13:48, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:


   Neither. Everything is in the library on the external drive. I booted 
High Sierra which I had cloned to another drive and its all working 
there. Checked settings, didn't see anything different.


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On 10/13/2018 12:36 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,
Are you using Apple Music or iTunes Match?  Just checking to make sure 
that your music is stored locally instead of being Cloud based.  If 
you connect to a computer where the music is primarily streamed 
instead of being stored locally, that Library may show as having no 
content.

Later...
Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
On Oct 13, 2018, at 13:21, Tim Kilburn <mailto:kilbu...@me.com> <mailto:kilbu...@me.com>> wrote:

Hi,
That's a travesty, missing Star Trek.  Especially, when you yourself 
are extra-terrestrial.

Later
Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
On Oct 13, 2018, at 13:11, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
  Nothing seems to work. I have disconnected the external drive and I 
still see the content in iTunes and I have repeated changing the 
location in preferences. The only thing I have not done is to reboot 
Apple TV, I miss my Star Trek. :)

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On 10/13/2018 11:45 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,
It doesn't sound like you did anything wrong to me.  I suggest you 
disconnect then reconnect and make sure to have your computer handy 
in case there's any security code that is required now.

Later...
Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
On Oct 12, 2018, at 16:23, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
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<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
  After installing Mojave, and setting up the iTunes library, 
pointing to its location, and turning on Home Sharing, my Apple TV 
says there is no content in the library. What am I missing here? Thanks.

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Re: Mojave and iTunes Library

2018-10-13 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi,

H.  That's interesting indeed.  I checked on my system and everything is 
fine.  When I connect to my MBP with Mojave, I see the local media, but not the 
iCloud Music Library based content.  When I connect to my El Capitan server, I 
see everything there as well.  Sure does sound like a security thing to me, but 
I'm not sure where the problem lies.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Oct 13, 2018, at 13:48, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

  Neither. Everything is in the library on the external drive. I booted High 
Sierra which I had cloned to another drive and its all working there. Checked 
settings, didn't see anything different.

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> Hi,
> Are you using Apple Music or iTunes Match?  Just checking to make sure that 
> your music is stored locally instead of being Cloud based.  If you connect to 
> a computer where the music is primarily streamed instead of being stored 
> locally, that Library may show as having no content.
> Later...
> Tim Kilburn
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> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> On Oct 13, 2018, at 13:21, Tim Kilburn  <mailto:kilbu...@me.com>> wrote:
> Hi,
> That's a travesty, missing Star Trek.  Especially, when you yourself are 
> extra-terrestrial.
> Later
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> On Oct 13, 2018, at 13:11, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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>   Nothing seems to work. I have disconnected the external drive and I still 
> see the content in iTunes and I have repeated changing the location in 
> preferences. The only thing I have not done is to reboot Apple TV, I miss my 
> Star Trek. :)
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>> disconnect then reconnect and make sure to have your computer handy in case 
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>> content in the library. What am I missing here? Thanks.
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Re: Mojave and iTunes Library

2018-10-13 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
   Neither. Everything is in the library on the external drive. I 
booted High Sierra which I had cloned to another drive and its all 
working there. Checked settings, didn't see anything different.


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Hi,

Are you using Apple Music or iTunes Match?  Just checking to make sure 
that your music is stored locally instead of being Cloud based.  If you 
connect to a computer where the music is primarily streamed instead of 
being stored locally, that Library may show as having no content.


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Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Oct 13, 2018, at 13:21, Tim Kilburn <mailto:kilbu...@me.com>> wrote:


Hi,

That's a travesty, missing Star Trek.  Especially, when you yourself are 
extra-terrestrial.


Later

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(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Oct 13, 2018, at 13:11, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:


   Nothing seems to work. I have disconnected the external drive and I 
still see the content in iTunes and I have repeated changing the 
location in preferences. The only thing I have not done is to reboot 
Apple TV, I miss my Star Trek. :)


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Hi,
It doesn't sound like you did anything wrong to me.  I suggest you 
disconnect then reconnect and make sure to have your computer handy in 
case there's any security code that is required now.

Later...
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to its location, and turning on Home Sharing, my Apple TV says there 
is no content in the library. What am I missing here? Thanks.

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Re: Mojave and iTunes Library

2018-10-13 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
   Uh huh indeed. Guess this extraterrestrial has been among humans too 
long. Hehe.


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Hi,

That's a travesty, missing Star Trek.  Especially, when you yourself are 
extra-terrestrial.


Later

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On Oct 13, 2018, at 13:11, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:


   Nothing seems to work. I have disconnected the external drive and I 
still see the content in iTunes and I have repeated changing the 
location in preferences. The only thing I have not done is to reboot 
Apple TV, I miss my Star Trek. :)


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disconnect then reconnect and make sure to have your computer handy in 
case there's any security code that is required now.

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to its location, and turning on Home Sharing, my Apple TV says there 
is no content in the library. What am I missing here? Thanks.

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Re: Mojave and iTunes Library

2018-10-13 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi,

Are you using Apple Music or iTunes Match?  Just checking to make sure that 
your music is stored locally instead of being Cloud based.  If you connect to a 
computer where the music is primarily streamed instead of being stored locally, 
that Library may show as having no content.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Oct 13, 2018, at 13:21, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

Hi,

That's a travesty, missing Star Trek.  Especially, when you yourself are 
extra-terrestrial.

Later

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Oct 13, 2018, at 13:11, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
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  Nothing seems to work. I have disconnected the external drive and I still see 
the content in iTunes and I have repeated changing the location in preferences. 
The only thing I have not done is to reboot Apple TV, I miss my Star Trek. :)

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Re: Mojave and iTunes Library

2018-10-13 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi,

That's a travesty, missing Star Trek.  Especially, when you yourself are 
extra-terrestrial.

Later

Tim Kilburn
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On Oct 13, 2018, at 13:11, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

  Nothing seems to work. I have disconnected the external drive and I still see 
the content in iTunes and I have repeated changing the location in preferences. 
The only thing I have not done is to reboot Apple TV, I miss my Star Trek. :)

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> Later...
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Re: Mojave and iTunes Library

2018-10-13 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
   Nothing seems to work. I have disconnected the external drive and I 
still see the content in iTunes and I have repeated changing the 
location in preferences. The only thing I have not done is to reboot 
Apple TV, I miss my Star Trek. :)


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Hi,

It doesn't sound like you did anything wrong to me.  I suggest you 
disconnect then reconnect and make sure to have your computer handy in 
case there's any security code that is required now.


Later...

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On Oct 12, 2018, at 16:23, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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   After installing Mojave, and setting up the iTunes library, pointing 
to its location, and turning on Home Sharing, my Apple TV says there is 
no content in the library. What am I missing here? Thanks.


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Re: Mojave and iTunes Library

2018-10-13 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi,

It doesn't sound like you did anything wrong to me.  I suggest you disconnect 
then reconnect and make sure to have your computer handy in case there's any 
security code that is required now.

Later...

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(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

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the library. What am I missing here? Thanks.

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Mojave and iTunes Library

2018-10-12 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
   After installing Mojave, and setting up the iTunes library, pointing 
to its location, and turning on Home Sharing, my Apple TV says there is 
no content in the library. What am I missing here? Thanks.


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Having trouble with the maccessibility podcast and iTunes in Mojave

2018-09-29 Thread Robert Hill
Hi all,

I am having trouble accessing the maccessibility podcast in iTunes on my 
Macintosh computer.
I am running Mojave.

I am using the following link to subscribe.
http://maccessibility.net/feed-podcast.rss

I can subscribe successfully, and can see the listing of episodes when 
expandint the feed list.

However, I am not able to play episodes, or download them.

I don't have any issues with other podcast players, and I can get the podcast 
to play in the podcasts app on my iPHone.

Just wondering if anyone has this issue, or if anyone can suggest ways to 
correct this.

Thanks.

Bob Hill

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ADD to iTunes as a spoken track and Alex voice.

2018-09-23 Thread Leo Bado

Hi everyone,

Now that the update to mohave  is getting closer and closer I wonder if 
the Alex voice can be use with the service send to iTunes as a spoken track?


did anyone try this out?


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Re: iTunes 12.9, Broken On Mac, Too?

2018-09-17 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries

   12.9.

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On 9/16/2018 11:41 PM, Simon Fogarty wrote:

Sorry ET,

Just confirm, did you mean 12.10 or 12.0?

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Sent: Monday, 17 September 2018 5:20 AM
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Subject: Re: iTunes 12.9, Broken On Mac, Too?

 I see what happened. The iTunes version usually matches on both platforms. 
Mojave which will be released very soon is running iTunes 12.0.

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On the VIPhone  list,  they say 12.9. They are discussing iTunes for pc, so 
perhaps the numbers are different.

Arnold Schmidt

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On Sep 16, 2018, at 11:42 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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Yu mean 12.8 which was just updated recently. No issues here on the Mac.

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There is discussion on the VIPhone  and other lists, that iTunes 12.9 for pc 
has serious accessibility issues. How is it for the Mac? Thanks for any 
opinions.
Arnold Schmidt
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RE: Don't Forget That There Is Always iTunes for Business

2018-09-17 Thread Simon Fogarty
Hi Mark,

Thanks for this,

I can only assume it works with the iPhone x?

And jaws 2018 
More to the point where can I get it?


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Subject: Don't Forget That There Is Always iTunes for Business

Hello Everyone,

After reading the posts that say that the latest version of iTunes for Windows 
may cause problems for some screen readers, I just wanted to remind you that 
you can always install iTunes for business on both Mac OS and Windows 
computers.  

While I use the latest standard version of iTunes on all of my Macs, I use the 
latest version of iTunes for business on all of my PCs.

In short, the version about which I am posting is the one that Apple released 
and continues to update, that has the app store and ringtones in
the application, itself.   This version was created shortly after the
release of iOS 11 when businesses complained, rightly so, that removing the App 
Store and Ring Tones section of the application, iTunes 12.7,  was 
counterproductive to batch iOS deployment.

The latest version of iTunes for business, which was released on September 12, 
2018, I presume in preparation for the debut of iOS 12, is 12.6.5.3, located at:

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208079


Personally, I love this version of iTunes and plan on using it for as long as 
possible.

Mark


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RE: iTunes 12.9, Broken On Mac, Too?

2018-09-17 Thread Simon Fogarty
Sorry ET,

Just confirm, did you mean 12.10 or 12.0?

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Subject: Re: iTunes 12.9, Broken On Mac, Too?

I see what happened. The iTunes version usually matches on both platforms. 
Mojave which will be released very soon is running iTunes 12.0.

 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
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On 9/16/2018 9:27 AM, Arnold Schmidt wrote:
> On the VIPhone  list,  they say 12.9. They are discussing iTunes for pc, so 
> perhaps the numbers are different.
> 
> Arnold Schmidt
> 
> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone
> 
> On Sep 16, 2018, at 11:42 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
>Yu mean 12.8 which was just updated recently. No issues here on the Mac.
> 
>  From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were 
> true?
> 
>> On 9/16/2018 1:02 AM, Arnold Schmidt wrote:
>> There is discussion on the VIPhone  and other lists, that iTunes 12.9 for pc 
>> has serious accessibility issues. How is it for the Mac? Thanks for any 
>> opinions.
>> Arnold Schmidt
>> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone
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RE: iTunes 12.9, Broken On Mac, Too?

2018-09-17 Thread Simon Fogarty
No,

 12.9 is the latest on the windows platform.

And yeah it doesn't work.


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Sent: Monday, 17 September 2018 4:28 AM
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Subject: Re: iTunes 12.9, Broken On Mac, Too?

On the VIPhone  list,  they say 12.9. They are discussing iTunes for pc, so 
perhaps the numbers are different. 

Arnold Schmidt 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone

On Sep 16, 2018, at 11:42 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

  Yu mean 12.8 which was just updated recently. No issues here on the Mac.

>From E.T.'s Keyboard...
  ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
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> On 9/16/2018 1:02 AM, Arnold Schmidt wrote:
> There is discussion on the VIPhone  and other lists, that iTunes 12.9 for pc 
> has serious accessibility issues. How is it for the Mac? Thanks for any 
> opinions.
> Arnold Schmidt
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Don't Forget That There Is Always iTunes for Business

2018-09-16 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Everyone,

After reading the posts that say that the latest version of iTunes for
Windows may cause problems for some screen readers, I just wanted to remind
you that you can always install iTunes for business on both Mac OS and
Windows computers.  

While I use the latest standard version of iTunes on all of my Macs, I use
the latest version of iTunes for business on all of my PCs.

In short, the version about which I am posting is the one that Apple
released and continues to update, that has the app store and ringtones in
the application, itself.   This version was created shortly after the
release of iOS 11 when businesses complained, rightly so, that removing the
App Store and Ring Tones section of the application, iTunes 12.7,  was
counterproductive to batch iOS deployment.

The latest version of iTunes for business, which was released on September
12, 2018, I presume in preparation for the debut of iOS 12, is 12.6.5.3,
located at:

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208079


Personally, I love this version of iTunes and plan on using it for as long
as possible.

Mark


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Re: iTunes 12.9, Broken On Mac, Too?

2018-09-16 Thread Arnold Schmidt
They are saying that, at least with jaws, the column browser doesn't work, plus 
some other problems. Other users say they have no problem with it, so who 
knows. My old pc is way too old to run a modern version of iTunes, and my Mac 
Mini is not going to be able to run Mojave, so I guess I don't have to worry. I 
was just curious. 


Arnold Schmidt 


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On Sep 16, 2018, at 3:07 PM, matthew dyer  
wrote:

Hi,

Using here on my mac and not seeing any problems.  What seems to be the problem 
with itunes on the mac.

Matthew



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There is discussion on the VIPhone  and other lists, that iTunes 12.9 for pc 
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Arnold Schmidt 


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RE: iTunes 12.9, Broken On Mac, Too?

2018-09-16 Thread matthew dyer
Hi,

Using here on my mac and not seeing any problems.  What seems to be the problem 
with itunes on the mac.

Matthew



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There is discussion on the VIPhone  and other lists, that iTunes 12.9 for pc 
has serious accessibility issues. How is it for the Mac? Thanks for any 
opinions. 

Arnold Schmidt 


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Re: iTunes 12.9, Broken On Mac, Too?

2018-09-16 Thread Jonathan Cohn
I believe NVDA 2018.3 beta works better with the new iTunes than the current 
2018.2 version. Nun f said for this list.
> On Sep 16, 2018, at 1:19 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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>   I see what happened. The iTunes version usually matches on both platforms. 
> Mojave which will be released very soon is running iTunes 12.0.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
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> On 9/16/2018 9:27 AM, Arnold Schmidt wrote:
>> On the VIPhone  list,  they say 12.9. They are discussing iTunes for pc, so 
>> perhaps the numbers are different.
>> Arnold Schmidt
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>> On Sep 16, 2018, at 11:42 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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>>   Yu mean 12.8 which was just updated recently. No issues here on the Mac.
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>> Many believe that we have been visited
>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>> On 9/16/2018 1:02 AM, Arnold Schmidt wrote:
>>> There is discussion on the VIPhone  and other lists, that iTunes 12.9 for 
>>> pc has serious accessibility issues. How is it for the Mac? Thanks for any 
>>> opinions.
>>> Arnold Schmidt
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Re: iTunes 12.9, Broken On Mac, Too?

2018-09-16 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
   I see what happened. The iTunes version usually matches on both 
platforms. Mojave which will be released very soon is running iTunes 12.0.


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   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 9/16/2018 9:27 AM, Arnold Schmidt wrote:

On the VIPhone  list,  they say 12.9. They are discussing iTunes for pc, so 
perhaps the numbers are different.

Arnold Schmidt

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone

On Sep 16, 2018, at 11:42 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

   Yu mean 12.8 which was just updated recently. No issues here on the Mac.

 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?


On 9/16/2018 1:02 AM, Arnold Schmidt wrote:
There is discussion on the VIPhone  and other lists, that iTunes 12.9 for pc 
has serious accessibility issues. How is it for the Mac? Thanks for any 
opinions.
Arnold Schmidt
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Re: iTunes 12.9, Broken On Mac, Too?

2018-09-16 Thread Arnold Schmidt
On the VIPhone  list,  they say 12.9. They are discussing iTunes for pc, so 
perhaps the numbers are different. 

Arnold Schmidt 

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On Sep 16, 2018, at 11:42 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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  Yu mean 12.8 which was just updated recently. No issues here on the Mac.

>From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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> There is discussion on the VIPhone  and other lists, that iTunes 12.9 for pc 
> has serious accessibility issues. How is it for the Mac? Thanks for any 
> opinions.
> Arnold Schmidt
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