Re: question about downloading music from my Apple Music library

2023-09-22 Thread Brad Snyder
Unfortunately, there is not a magic button that will initiate a download of all 
of your Apple music library to your device.

- Brad -



On Sep 22, 2023, at 12:35, Jessica Barr  wrote:

Hi. I want to download my music to my Mac, and have already started. I have a 
huge library, though, so going into each album, activating the Download button, 
going back to the list of albums and repeating the process with the next one is 
very tedious. Is there a faster way to do this?

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question about downloading music from my Apple Music library

2023-09-22 Thread Jessica Barr
Hi. I want to download my music to my Mac, and have already started. I have a 
huge library, though, so going into each album, activating the Download button, 
going back to the list of albums and repeating the process with the next one is 
very tedious. Is there a faster way to do this?

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Re: A Question for Veteran iOS, iPAD OS Apple Music App VoiceOver Users

2023-08-07 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
That is true and apple creates a favorites mix for you every Tuesday.
Its in the listen now tap.
THere are a lot with Apple Music I am unhappy with.
Bless.
/A

> 6 aug. 2023 kl. 22:22 skrev M. Taylor :
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> I have been an Amazon Music subscriber for about 2 years, now.  When a song
> is playing on any Alexa enabled device, I can say, "Alexa, I like this."
> Alexa will reply with something like, "OK, Mark, got it."  
> 
> Later, when I open the Amazon Music app on any device, there is an
> automatically generated play list called something like "Mark's Favorites."
> 
> 
> I have come to use this feature a great deal and, apparently, have begun
> taking it for granted.
> 
> Now, as part of my Apple One subscription, I have started using my Apple
> Music app on both my iPhone and iPad.
> 
> For the past few days, when various songs were playing, I said, "Siri, I
> like this."  Just like Alexa, Siri responds with, "got it."  Upon hearing
> this, I foolishly assumed that, like Alexa, some kind of playlist or station
> would be populated with a list of the songs I specifically liked, during
> playback.  Wrong, wrong, wrong
> 
> Wow!
> 
> After conducting some extremely unsatisfying searches on the net, from what
> I can tell, no automatically generated playlist is created by Siri.  Then, I
> read that one can tell Siri to add the currently playing song to a specific
> playlist.
> 
> Then, I read that one can create smart playlists that, in effect, mimic the
> functionality of Alexa.
> 
> Imagine my surprise when I discovered that one cannot create smart playlists
> via the Apple Music app on iPhone or iPad?  Question: is this true???  If
> so, it is crazy!!!
> 
> So, I am posting this in hopes that someone will correct the info I have
> obtained or confirming it.  And no, I do not want to create a shortcut in
> order to create / manipulate playlists.
> 
> All replies greatly appreciated.
> 
> Mark
> 
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RE: A Question for Veteran iOS, iPAD OS Apple Music App VoiceOver Users

2023-08-06 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Rajiv,

It's good to hear from you.

Okay, thank you for your reply.  

To say that I am underwhelmed with Siri's Apple Music management capabilities 
in comparison to that of Alexa's Amazon Music management capability, would be 
the understatement of the summer, thus far, (smile).

Mark

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Rajiv Shah
Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2023 3:45 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A Question for Veteran iOS, iPAD OS Apple Music App VoiceOver Users

Hi Mark,

As a fellow Apple Music user, I am afraid that all you can do with Siri is the 
following: "Hey Siri, add this album to my library." "Hey Siri, add this song 
to my workout playlist."

In another words, speak the name of the playlist to which you'd like to add the 
song.

Thank you.

Rajiv

- Original Message -
From: "M. Taylor" 
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2023 4:22:17 PM
Subject: A Question for Veteran iOS, iPAD OS Apple Music App VoiceOver Users

Hello All,

I have been an Amazon Music subscriber for about 2 years, now.  When a song is 
playing on any Alexa enabled device, I can say, "Alexa, I like this."
Alexa will reply with something like, "OK, Mark, got it."  

Later, when I open the Amazon Music app on any device, there is an 
automatically generated play list called something like "Mark's Favorites."


I have come to use this feature a great deal and, apparently, have begun taking 
it for granted.

Now, as part of my Apple One subscription, I have started using my Apple Music 
app on both my iPhone and iPad.

For the past few days, when various songs were playing, I said, "Siri, I like 
this."  Just like Alexa, Siri responds with, "got it."  Upon hearing this, I 
foolishly assumed that, like Alexa, some kind of playlist or station would be 
populated with a list of the songs I specifically liked, during playback.  
Wrong, wrong, wrong

Wow!

After conducting some extremely unsatisfying searches on the net, from what I 
can tell, no automatically generated playlist is created by Siri.  Then, I read 
that one can tell Siri to add the currently playing song to a specific playlist.

Then, I read that one can create smart playlists that, in effect, mimic the 
functionality of Alexa.

Imagine my surprise when I discovered that one cannot create smart playlists 
via the Apple Music app on iPhone or iPad?  Question: is this true???  If so, 
it is crazy!!!

So, I am posting this in hopes that someone will correct the info I have 
obtained or confirming it.  And no, I do not want to create a shortcut in order 
to create / manipulate playlists.

All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark


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Re: A Question for Veteran iOS, iPAD OS Apple Music App VoiceOver Users

2023-08-06 Thread Rajiv Shah
Hi Mark,

As a fellow Apple Music user, I am afraid that all you can do with Siri is the 
following: "Hey Siri, add this album to my library." "Hey Siri, add this song 
to my workout playlist."

In another words, speak the name of the playlist to which you'd like to add the 
song.

Thank you.

Rajiv

- Original Message -
From: "M. Taylor" 
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2023 4:22:17 PM
Subject: A Question for Veteran iOS, iPAD OS Apple Music App VoiceOver Users

Hello All,

I have been an Amazon Music subscriber for about 2 years, now.  When a song
is playing on any Alexa enabled device, I can say, "Alexa, I like this."
Alexa will reply with something like, "OK, Mark, got it."  

Later, when I open the Amazon Music app on any device, there is an
automatically generated play list called something like "Mark's Favorites."


I have come to use this feature a great deal and, apparently, have begun
taking it for granted.

Now, as part of my Apple One subscription, I have started using my Apple
Music app on both my iPhone and iPad.

For the past few days, when various songs were playing, I said, "Siri, I
like this."  Just like Alexa, Siri responds with, "got it."  Upon hearing
this, I foolishly assumed that, like Alexa, some kind of playlist or station
would be populated with a list of the songs I specifically liked, during
playback.  Wrong, wrong, wrong

Wow!

After conducting some extremely unsatisfying searches on the net, from what
I can tell, no automatically generated playlist is created by Siri.  Then, I
read that one can tell Siri to add the currently playing song to a specific
playlist.

Then, I read that one can create smart playlists that, in effect, mimic the
functionality of Alexa.

Imagine my surprise when I discovered that one cannot create smart playlists
via the Apple Music app on iPhone or iPad?  Question: is this true???  If
so, it is crazy!!!

So, I am posting this in hopes that someone will correct the info I have
obtained or confirming it.  And no, I do not want to create a shortcut in
order to create / manipulate playlists.

All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark


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A Question for Veteran iOS, iPAD OS Apple Music App VoiceOver Users

2023-08-06 Thread M. Taylor
Hello All,

I have been an Amazon Music subscriber for about 2 years, now.  When a song
is playing on any Alexa enabled device, I can say, "Alexa, I like this."
Alexa will reply with something like, "OK, Mark, got it."  

Later, when I open the Amazon Music app on any device, there is an
automatically generated play list called something like "Mark's Favorites."


I have come to use this feature a great deal and, apparently, have begun
taking it for granted.

Now, as part of my Apple One subscription, I have started using my Apple
Music app on both my iPhone and iPad.

For the past few days, when various songs were playing, I said, "Siri, I
like this."  Just like Alexa, Siri responds with, "got it."  Upon hearing
this, I foolishly assumed that, like Alexa, some kind of playlist or station
would be populated with a list of the songs I specifically liked, during
playback.  Wrong, wrong, wrong

Wow!

After conducting some extremely unsatisfying searches on the net, from what
I can tell, no automatically generated playlist is created by Siri.  Then, I
read that one can tell Siri to add the currently playing song to a specific
playlist.

Then, I read that one can create smart playlists that, in effect, mimic the
functionality of Alexa.

Imagine my surprise when I discovered that one cannot create smart playlists
via the Apple Music app on iPhone or iPad?  Question: is this true???  If
so, it is crazy!!!

So, I am posting this in hopes that someone will correct the info I have
obtained or confirming it.  And no, I do not want to create a shortcut in
order to create / manipulate playlists.

All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark


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Re: Strange Apple Music phenomena.

2023-04-17 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
Ok, thanks.
Will have it  on on my Iphone.
/A

> 17 apr. 2023 kl. 16:34 skrev Patrick Ford :
> 
> Hi,
> You can turn this off. I am not sure if you are on your iPhone or mac but it 
> can be turned off. For the iPhone you have to open the play now screen and 
> along the bottom of this pop up screen you will find options one of which is 
> to stop the continuous play. 
> Patrick 
> 
>> On Apr 17, 2023, at 9:36 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>> 
>> Nothing strange about this. It is definitely a feature and it has been doing 
>> this for a long time.
>> I rather like it. I can tell my HomePod to play a single song, and it will 
>> continuously play other music based upon that song for hours.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> On Apr 17, 2023, at 07:35, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Anders,
>> 
>> This has been happening for long time.  It took me by surprise at first, but 
>> now I actually like it.  I can pick an album by an artist and I just let it 
>> play after the album’s done.  Eventually, it plays something I don’t like, 
>> and then I either tell it to stop, or tell it to play something else. :)
>> Take care,
>> Donna
>> 
>>> On Apr 17, 2023, at 7:24 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>>> 
>>>  Hi!
>>> I don’t know if this is a feature or what it is but its a bit frustrating 
>>> for me.
>>> When I play an album in  Apple Music and its played the music continues 
>>> with some similar music.
>>> So directly after the played album music does not stop it just continues.
>>> Very odd.
>>> /A
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Re: Strange Apple Music phenomena.

2023-04-17 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
I haven’t had this feature since 2 weeks ago.
Bless.
/A

> 17 apr. 2023 kl. 15:36 skrev Brad Snyder :
> 
> Nothing strange about this. It is definitely a feature and it has been doing 
> this for a long time.
> I rather like it. I can tell my HomePod to play a single song, and it will 
> continuously play other music based upon that song for hours.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> On Apr 17, 2023, at 07:35, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Anders,
> 
> This has been happening for long time.  It took me by surprise at first, but 
> now I actually like it.  I can pick an album by an artist and I just let it 
> play after the album’s done.  Eventually, it plays something I don’t like, 
> and then I either tell it to stop, or tell it to play something else. :)
> Take care,
> Donna
> 
>> On Apr 17, 2023, at 7:24 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>>   Hi!
>> I don’t know if this is a feature or what it is but its a bit frustrating 
>> for me.
>> When I play an album in  Apple Music and its played the music continues with 
>> some similar music.
>> So directly after the played album music does not stop it just continues.
>> Very odd.
>> /A
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Re: Strange Apple Music phenomena.

2023-04-17 Thread Herbie Allen
It treats every device differently. I have it disabled on the mac, but enabled 
on the iPhone.

> On Apr 17, 2023, at 10:13, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> This is good to know.
> I like the feature, but I also like being able to control if the feature is 
> on or off when listening on my iPhone.  On the HomePod, that is different.
> I rarely listen on my Mac, but it is also good to know how to enable/disable 
> the feature on the Mac as well. 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> 
> On Apr 17, 2023, at 09:34, Patrick Ford  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> You can turn this off. I am not sure if you are on your iPhone or mac but it 
> can be turned off. For the iPhone you have to open the play now screen and 
> along the bottom of this pop up screen you will find options one of which is 
> to stop the continuous play. 
> Patrick 
> 
>> On Apr 17, 2023, at 9:36 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>> 
>> Nothing strange about this. It is definitely a feature and it has been doing 
>> this for a long time.
>> I rather like it. I can tell my HomePod to play a single song, and it will 
>> continuously play other music based upon that song for hours.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> On Apr 17, 2023, at 07:35, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Anders,
>> 
>> This has been happening for long time.  It took me by surprise at first, but 
>> now I actually like it.  I can pick an album by an artist and I just let it 
>> play after the album’s done.  Eventually, it plays something I don’t like, 
>> and then I either tell it to stop, or tell it to play something else. :)
>> Take care,
>> Donna
>> 
>>> On Apr 17, 2023, at 7:24 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> I don’t know if this is a feature or what it is but its a bit frustrating 
>>> for me.
>>> When I play an album in  Apple Music and its played the music continues 
>>> with some similar music.
>>> So directly after the played album music does not stop it just continues.
>>> Very odd.
>>> /A
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Re: Strange Apple Music phenomena.

2023-04-17 Thread Brad Snyder
This is good to know.
I like the feature, but I also like being able to control if the feature is on 
or off when listening on my iPhone.  On the HomePod, that is different.
I rarely listen on my Mac, but it is also good to know how to enable/disable 
the feature on the Mac as well. 

Thanks,

- Brad -



On Apr 17, 2023, at 09:34, Patrick Ford  wrote:

Hi,
You can turn this off. I am not sure if you are on your iPhone or mac but it 
can be turned off. For the iPhone you have to open the play now screen and 
along the bottom of this pop up screen you will find options one of which is to 
stop the continuous play. 
Patrick 

> On Apr 17, 2023, at 9:36 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> Nothing strange about this. It is definitely a feature and it has been doing 
> this for a long time.
> I rather like it. I can tell my HomePod to play a single song, and it will 
> continuously play other music based upon that song for hours.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> On Apr 17, 2023, at 07:35, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Anders,
> 
> This has been happening for long time.  It took me by surprise at first, but 
> now I actually like it.  I can pick an album by an artist and I just let it 
> play after the album’s done.  Eventually, it plays something I don’t like, 
> and then I either tell it to stop, or tell it to play something else. :)
> Take care,
> Donna
> 
>> On Apr 17, 2023, at 7:24 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>>  Hi!
>> I don’t know if this is a feature or what it is but its a bit frustrating 
>> for me.
>> When I play an album in  Apple Music and its played the music continues with 
>> some similar music.
>> So directly after the played album music does not stop it just continues.
>> Very odd.
>> /A
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Re: Strange Apple Music phenomena.

2023-04-17 Thread Herbie Allen
You might have to show the Play next button first with VO Space. Also, when you 
turn off the autoplay, you might need to clear the history as well.

> On Apr 17, 2023, at 09:45, Patrick Ford  wrote:
> 
> ...for the mac, open up the music app and while the music is playing VO right 
> until you find the second playing next button - interact with this - then you 
> will find the word history - interact here - within this interaction you will 
> find the auto play on/off button - VO space bar to turn off - 
> 
>> On Apr 17, 2023, at 9:36 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>> 
>> Nothing strange about this. It is definitely a feature and it has been doing 
>> this for a long time.
>> I rather like it. I can tell my HomePod to play a single song, and it will 
>> continuously play other music based upon that song for hours.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> On Apr 17, 2023, at 07:35, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Anders,
>> 
>> This has been happening for long time.  It took me by surprise at first, but 
>> now I actually like it.  I can pick an album by an artist and I just let it 
>> play after the album’s done.  Eventually, it plays something I don’t like, 
>> and then I either tell it to stop, or tell it to play something else. :)
>> Take care,
>> Donna
>> 
>>> On Apr 17, 2023, at 7:24 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>>> 
>>>  Hi!
>>> I don’t know if this is a feature or what it is but its a bit frustrating 
>>> for me.
>>> When I play an album in  Apple Music and its played the music continues 
>>> with some similar music.
>>> So directly after the played album music does not stop it just continues.
>>> Very odd.
>>> /A
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Re: Strange Apple Music phenomena.

2023-04-17 Thread Patrick Ford
...for the mac, open up the music app and while the music is playing VO right 
until you find the second playing next button - interact with this - then you 
will find the word history - interact here - within this interaction you will 
find the auto play on/off button - VO space bar to turn off - 

> On Apr 17, 2023, at 9:36 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> Nothing strange about this. It is definitely a feature and it has been doing 
> this for a long time.
> I rather like it. I can tell my HomePod to play a single song, and it will 
> continuously play other music based upon that song for hours.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> On Apr 17, 2023, at 07:35, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Anders,
> 
> This has been happening for long time.  It took me by surprise at first, but 
> now I actually like it.  I can pick an album by an artist and I just let it 
> play after the album’s done.  Eventually, it plays something I don’t like, 
> and then I either tell it to stop, or tell it to play something else. :)
> Take care,
> Donna
> 
>> On Apr 17, 2023, at 7:24 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>>   Hi!
>> I don’t know if this is a feature or what it is but its a bit frustrating 
>> for me.
>> When I play an album in  Apple Music and its played the music continues with 
>> some similar music.
>> So directly after the played album music does not stop it just continues.
>> Very odd.
>> /A
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Re: Strange Apple Music phenomena.

2023-04-17 Thread Patrick Ford
Hi,
You can turn this off. I am not sure if you are on your iPhone or mac but it 
can be turned off. For the iPhone you have to open the play now screen and 
along the bottom of this pop up screen you will find options one of which is to 
stop the continuous play. 
Patrick 

> On Apr 17, 2023, at 9:36 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> Nothing strange about this. It is definitely a feature and it has been doing 
> this for a long time.
> I rather like it. I can tell my HomePod to play a single song, and it will 
> continuously play other music based upon that song for hours.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> On Apr 17, 2023, at 07:35, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Anders,
> 
> This has been happening for long time.  It took me by surprise at first, but 
> now I actually like it.  I can pick an album by an artist and I just let it 
> play after the album’s done.  Eventually, it plays something I don’t like, 
> and then I either tell it to stop, or tell it to play something else. :)
> Take care,
> Donna
> 
>> On Apr 17, 2023, at 7:24 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>>   Hi!
>> I don’t know if this is a feature or what it is but its a bit frustrating 
>> for me.
>> When I play an album in  Apple Music and its played the music continues with 
>> some similar music.
>> So directly after the played album music does not stop it just continues.
>> Very odd.
>> /A
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Re: Strange Apple Music phenomena.

2023-04-17 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
It can be quite nice as you say.
Not a big issue but was a bit surprised though.
/A

> 17 apr. 2023 kl. 14:33 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> :
> 
> Hi Anders,
> 
> This has been happening for long time.  It took me by surprise at first, but 
> now I actually like it.  I can pick an album by an artist and I just let it 
> play after the album’s done.  Eventually, it plays something I don’t like, 
> and then I either tell it to stop, or tell it to play something else. :)
> Take care,
> Donna
> 
>> On Apr 17, 2023, at 7:24 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>>  Hi!
>> I don’t know if this is a feature or what it is but its a bit frustrating 
>> for me.
>> When I play an album in  Apple Music and its played the music continues with 
>> some similar music.
>> So directly after the played album music does not stop it just continues.
>> Very odd.
>> /A
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Re: Strange Apple Music phenomena.

2023-04-17 Thread 'Mervin Keck III' via MacVisionaries
I remember when Spotify did this and Apple Music did not. I used to hate this 
feature until I started using YouTube Premium which comes with YouTube Music. I 
became very accustomed to it and now I like it and use it frequently on both 
YouTube Music and Apple Music. 
Merv


> On Apr 17, 2023, at 9:36 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
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> Nothing strange about this. It is definitely a feature and it has been doing 
> this for a long time.
> I rather like it. I can tell my HomePod to play a single song, and it will 
> continuously play other music based upon that song for hours.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> On Apr 17, 2023, at 07:35, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi Anders,
> 
> This has been happening for long time.  It took me by surprise at first, but 
> now I actually like it.  I can pick an album by an artist and I just let it 
> play after the album’s done.  Eventually, it plays something I don’t like, 
> and then I either tell it to stop, or tell it to play something else. :)
> Take care,
> Donna
> 
>> On Apr 17, 2023, at 7:24 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
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>>   Hi!
>> I don’t know if this is a feature or what it is but its a bit frustrating 
>> for me.
>> When I play an album in  Apple Music and its played the music continues with 
>> some similar music.
>> So directly after the played album music does not stop it just continues.
>> Very odd.
>> /A
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Re: Strange Apple Music phenomena.

2023-04-17 Thread Brad Snyder
Nothing strange about this. It is definitely a feature and it has been doing 
this for a long time.
I rather like it. I can tell my HomePod to play a single song, and it will 
continuously play other music based upon that song for hours.

- Brad -

On Apr 17, 2023, at 07:35, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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Hi Anders,

This has been happening for long time.  It took me by surprise at first, but 
now I actually like it.  I can pick an album by an artist and I just let it 
play after the album’s done.  Eventually, it plays something I don’t like, and 
then I either tell it to stop, or tell it to play something else. :)
Take care,
Donna

> On Apr 17, 2023, at 7:24 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
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>Hi!
> I don’t know if this is a feature or what it is but its a bit frustrating for 
> me.
> When I play an album in  Apple Music and its played the music continues with 
> some similar music.
> So directly after the played album music does not stop it just continues.
> Very odd.
> /A
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Re: Strange Apple Music phenomena.

2023-04-17 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Hi Anders,

This has been happening for long time.  It took me by surprise at first, but 
now I actually like it.  I can pick an album by an artist and I just let it 
play after the album’s done.  Eventually, it plays something I don’t like, and 
then I either tell it to stop, or tell it to play something else. :)
Take care,
Donna

> On Apr 17, 2023, at 7:24 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
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> I don’t know if this is a feature or what it is but its a bit frustrating for 
> me.
> When I play an album in  Apple Music and its played the music continues with 
> some similar music.
> So directly after the played album music does not stop it just continues.
> Very odd.
> /A
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Re: Strange Apple Music phenomena.

2023-04-17 Thread 'Jason J.G. White' via MacVisionaries
They probably think it’s a feature, and I couldn’t find an option to turn it 
off. Apple Music Classical, which I now use, doesn’t exhibit this problem, 
however.

> On Apr 17, 2023, at 08:24, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
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>   Hi!
> I don’t know if this is a feature or what it is but its a bit frustrating for 
> me.
> When I play an album in  Apple Music and its played the music continues with 
> some similar music.
> So directly after the played album music does not stop it just continues.
> Very odd.
> /A
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Strange Apple Music phenomena.

2023-04-17 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
I don’t know if this is a feature or what it is but its a bit frustrating for 
me.
When I play an album in  Apple Music and its played the music continues with 
some similar music.
So directly after the played album music does not stop it just continues.
Very odd.
/A

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Re: iPhone apple music playlist name

2022-08-16 Thread Jonathan Cohn
Hello,

Seems you have to navigate by touch for this one. 
Double tap the play list.
Find the "more" button in the top right of the screen, and tap it.
Find the Edit button in the list that comes up.
Below the Picture you should find two text areas both of these are editable one 
says the name of the play list followed by the word text. If you double tap on 
this you should be able to edit the playlist name.

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



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> In creating a new playlist using the iPhone, by default the first track 
> chosen becomes the name of the playlist. I cannot figure out how to 
> manipulate this edit field to choose the name I want.
> Can this be done, or naming is only by way of the mac?
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iPhone apple music playlist name

2022-08-16 Thread Patrick Ford
Hi,
In creating a new playlist using the iPhone, by default the first track chosen 
becomes the name of the playlist. I cannot figure out how to manipulate this 
edit field to choose the name I want.
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Re: Youtube music, Apple Music, Spotify.

2022-07-03 Thread 'ja...@jasonjgw.net' via MacVisionaries
I switched from Apple Music to Primephonic, a specialist streaming service for 
serious music. Most streaming services assume everything is a “song”, and can’t 
handle multiple movement works well (e.g., operas, symphonies, sonatas, etc.). 
Primephonic solved that problem, while allowing you to find and compare 
different recordings of the same work, for instance. The Primephonic 
application and Web site had some accessibility issues, but the catalogue was 
excellent, and the application was designed for the kind of music I listen to.
Then Apple purchased Primephonic, so I’m back to Apple Music again. It’s 
rumored that Apple may at some point release a new application based on 
Primephonic’s design. If they do, I hope the accessibility with VoiceOver is 
improved.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  on 
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Date: Saturday, 2July, 2022 at 04:59
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Subject: Youtube music, Apple Music, Spotify.
Hello,

how do you use service for listening to music and why?
I am talking about the services in a subject.

Thank you.

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Re: Youtube music, Apple Music, Spotify.

2022-07-03 Thread Greg Wocher
Hello,
I use YouTube music. The reason is that I pay for YouTube premium for me and my 
son so we do not see adds in YouTube. We watch YouTube a lot so it is worth it 
for us. YouTube music comes with a YouTube premium subscription.

Greg Wocher


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> I also use Apple Music, because I like the high quality at no extra cost, the 
> ease of use with Siri, the fact that I have HomePods and iOS devices etc. I 
> also had it linked to my Amazon, although that went out a little while back 
> and I haven’t tried it since. I did have Amazon music, but I dropped it, 
> because it never got linked up with my HomePods so never mind. I have YouTube 
> premium but not for the music, just for the fact that I don’t have to see ads 
> ever.
> 
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> Sent from my iPhone
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>> 
>> how do you use service for listening to music and why?
>> I am talking about the services in a subject.
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Re: Youtube music, Apple Music, Spotify.

2022-07-02 Thread Mary Otten
I also use Apple Music, because I like the high quality at no extra cost, the 
ease of use with Siri, the fact that I have HomePods and iOS devices etc. I 
also had it linked to my Amazon, although that went out a little while back and 
I haven’t tried it since. I did have Amazon music, but I dropped it, because it 
never got linked up with my HomePods so never mind. I have YouTube premium but 
not for the music, just for the fact that I don’t have to see ads ever.


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Re: Youtube music, Apple Music, Spotify.

2022-07-02 Thread Lorie McCloud
I use Amazon music primarily because I've bought music from Amazon since 2000. 
I don't use their streaming service but I have a lot of music in my library and 
I have the level that comes with Amazon prime.

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Re: Youtube music, Apple Music, Spotify.

2022-07-02 Thread 'Mervin Keck III' via MacVisionaries
I have Apple Music but also have YouTube Premium which includes YouTube music. 
I like having access to YouTube Music on my Mac, iPhone and Toshiba Fire TV.
Merv


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> My preference is now Apple Music. It has an easy interface on the phone and 
> Mac, and you don’t have to pay extra for the High quality Music. Dolby Atmos 
> is great too on the supported tracks. Youtube Music is my second just because 
> of the integration with Youtube. It is a great way to find live  
> performances, or hard to find tracks like those that have not been converted 
> to digital. It is also better then Apple Music when it comes to  suggested 
> tracks which is also true of Spotify. Before Apple Music introduced the high 
> quality Music I used Tidal.
> 
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Re: Youtube music, Apple Music, Spotify.

2022-07-02 Thread Herbie Allen
My preference is now Apple Music. It has an easy interface on the phone and 
Mac, and you don’t have to pay extra for the High quality Music. Dolby Atmos is 
great too on the supported tracks. Youtube Music is my second just because of 
the integration with Youtube. It is a great way to find live  performances, or 
hard to find tracks like those that have not been converted to digital. It is 
also better then Apple Music when it comes to  suggested tracks which is also 
true of Spotify. Before Apple Music introduced the high quality Music I used 
Tidal.

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Re: Youtube music, Apple Music, Spotify.

2022-07-02 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Hi,

I have free versions of Pandora and Spotify, and Apple Music.  I still play 
stations that I created on the first two, but mostly I use Apple Music.  The 
audio quality is great, and it’s super easy to just say “Hey Siri, play x, 
whether it’s in my library or not.  I’ve never used Youtube for music, and 
don’t really see any reason to start now.
Cheers,
Donna

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> Hi!
> Hmm, i seldom use Spotify just because the free version has adds and I never 
> use YouTube when it comes to music.
> Not much as I could do.
> Mostly I use Apple Music  and I must say I like it  when it comes to 
> searching for artists and songs and absolutely when it comes to audio quality.
> I guess both Spotify and Youtube has good quality too but since I started 
> with Apple Music I don’t want to change to something else since I have like 
> over 1000 albums in my library.
> /A
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>> Hello,
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>> I am talking about the services in a subject.
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Re: Youtube music, Apple Music, Spotify.

2022-07-02 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
Hmm, i seldom use Spotify just because the free version has adds and I never 
use YouTube when it comes to music.
Not much as I could do.
Mostly I use Apple Music  and I must say I like it  when it comes to searching 
for artists and songs and absolutely when it comes to audio quality.
I guess both Spotify and Youtube has good quality too but since I started with 
Apple Music I don’t want to change to something else since I have like over 
1000 albums in my library.
/A

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Youtube music, Apple Music, Spotify.

2022-07-02 Thread Tibor Niesner
Hello,

how do you use service for listening to music and why?
I am talking about the services in a subject.

Thank you.

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Re: Strangeness with radio station in Apple Music.

2022-04-27 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
Its great.
I am try9ng it out.
/A

> 26 apr. 2022 kl. 21:54 skrev Herbie Allen :
> 
> The Tunein App for the Mac is a regular Mac app and is not M1 dependent.
> 
>> On Apr 26, 2022, at 14:23, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
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>> Hi!
>> Well, I haven’t tried tuneIn on the Mac yet.
>> I don’t have the m1 Macs så I guess it won’t work.
>> TUnein removed all my recordings so I am a bit pissed off at them.
>> But I might give it a try.
>> /A
>> 
>>> 26 apr. 2022 kl. 21:04 skrev Herbie Allen :
>>> 
>>> Have you tried the actual Tunein app on your Mac? That might prove easier. 
>>> Apple Music on the Mac is not the same as the phone version so it is not 
>>> surprising you are having issues with one vs the other.
>>> 
>>>> On Apr 25, 2022, at 13:41, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi!
>>>> You know that there are several TuneIn radio stations if you have an Apple 
>>>> Music account.
>>>> I wanted to play a Swedish station named p4 Gotland.
>>>> I can do this with no issue on any iOS or iPad os device.
>>>> But when I try to play the station from my Mac I can not seem to start it.
>>>> So I wonder what’s going on.
>>>> Any thoughts.
>>>> I have tried to route the mouse to the cursor and the cursor to the mouse.
>>>> No luck.
>>>> I press ctrl option command space and then in the menu I press the  click 
>>>> button.
>>>> /A
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Re: Strangeness with radio station in Apple Music.

2022-04-26 Thread Herbie Allen
The Tunein App for the Mac is a regular Mac app and is not M1 dependent.

> On Apr 26, 2022, at 14:23, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Well, I haven’t tried tuneIn on the Mac yet.
> I don’t have the m1 Macs så I guess it won’t work.
> TUnein removed all my recordings so I am a bit pissed off at them.
> But I might give it a try.
> /A
> 
>> 26 apr. 2022 kl. 21:04 skrev Herbie Allen :
>> 
>> Have you tried the actual Tunein app on your Mac? That might prove easier. 
>> Apple Music on the Mac is not the same as the phone version so it is not 
>> surprising you are having issues with one vs the other.
>> 
>>> On Apr 25, 2022, at 13:41, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> You know that there are several TuneIn radio stations if you have an Apple 
>>> Music account.
>>> I wanted to play a Swedish station named p4 Gotland.
>>> I can do this with no issue on any iOS or iPad os device.
>>> But when I try to play the station from my Mac I can not seem to start it.
>>> So I wonder what’s going on.
>>> Any thoughts.
>>> I have tried to route the mouse to the cursor and the cursor to the mouse.
>>> No luck.
>>> I press ctrl option command space and then in the menu I press the  click 
>>> button.
>>> /A
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Re: Strangeness with radio station in Apple Music.

2022-04-26 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
Well, I haven’t tried tuneIn on the Mac yet.
I don’t have the m1 Macs så I guess it won’t work.
TUnein removed all my recordings so I am a bit pissed off at them.
But I might give it a try.
/A

> 26 apr. 2022 kl. 21:04 skrev Herbie Allen :
> 
> Have you tried the actual Tunein app on your Mac? That might prove easier. 
> Apple Music on the Mac is not the same as the phone version so it is not 
> surprising you are having issues with one vs the other.
> 
>> On Apr 25, 2022, at 13:41, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> You know that there are several TuneIn radio stations if you have an Apple 
>> Music account.
>> I wanted to play a Swedish station named p4 Gotland.
>> I can do this with no issue on any iOS or iPad os device.
>> But when I try to play the station from my Mac I can not seem to start it.
>> So I wonder what’s going on.
>> Any thoughts.
>> I have tried to route the mouse to the cursor and the cursor to the mouse.
>> No luck.
>> I press ctrl option command space and then in the menu I press the  click 
>> button.
>> /A
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Re: Strangeness with radio station in Apple Music.

2022-04-26 Thread Herbie Allen
Have you tried the actual Tunein app on your Mac? That might prove easier. 
Apple Music on the Mac is not the same as the phone version so it is not 
surprising you are having issues with one vs the other.

> On Apr 25, 2022, at 13:41, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> You know that there are several TuneIn radio stations if you have an Apple 
> Music account.
> I wanted to play a Swedish station named p4 Gotland.
> I can do this with no issue on any iOS or iPad os device.
> But when I try to play the station from my Mac I can not seem to start it.
> So I wonder what’s going on.
> Any thoughts.
> I have tried to route the mouse to the cursor and the cursor to the mouse.
> No luck.
> I press ctrl option command space and then in the menu I press the  click 
> button.
> /A
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Re: Strangeness with radio station in Apple Music.

2022-04-26 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
I searched for sr p4 Gotland.
Or Ork sport if you prefer.
/A

> 26 apr. 2022 kl. 15:56 skrev Terje Strømberg :
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> How do you choose tune in in apple music ?
> 
> Take care
> 
> 
> 
> man. 25. apr. 2022 kl. 20:41 skrev Anders Holmberg  <mailto:and...@pipkrokodil.se>>:
> Hi!
> You know that there are several TuneIn radio stations if you have an Apple 
> Music account.
> I wanted to play a Swedish station named p4 Gotland.
> I can do this with no issue on any iOS or iPad os device.
> But when I try to play the station from my Mac I can not seem to start it.
> So I wonder what’s going on.
> Any thoughts.
> I have tried to route the mouse to the cursor and the cursor to the mouse.
> No luck.
> I press ctrl option command space and then in the menu I press the  click 
> button.
> /A
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Re: Strangeness with radio station in Apple Music.

2022-04-26 Thread Terje Strømberg
How do you choose tune in in apple music ?

Take care



man. 25. apr. 2022 kl. 20:41 skrev Anders Holmberg :

> Hi!
> You know that there are several TuneIn radio stations if you have an Apple
> Music account.
> I wanted to play a Swedish station named p4 Gotland.
> I can do this with no issue on any iOS or iPad os device.
> But when I try to play the station from my Mac I can not seem to start it.
> So I wonder what’s going on.
> Any thoughts.
> I have tried to route the mouse to the cursor and the cursor to the mouse.
> No luck.
> I press ctrl option command space and then in the menu I press the  click
> button.
> /A
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Strangeness with radio station in Apple Music.

2022-04-25 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
You know that there are several TuneIn radio stations if you have an Apple 
Music account.
I wanted to play a Swedish station named p4 Gotland.
I can do this with no issue on any iOS or iPad os device.
But when I try to play the station from my Mac I can not seem to start it.
So I wonder what’s going on.
Any thoughts.
I have tried to route the mouse to the cursor and the cursor to the mouse.
No luck.
I press ctrl option command space and then in the menu I press the  click 
button.
/A

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RE: Apple Music and Siri versus Amazon Music with Alexa, Just Listen

2021-10-30 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Donna,

In no way did I take your comments as criticism.  

I do not have my software set to update automatically as I don’t have my 
HomePod on, 24 / 7.  In my case, I had to restart HomePod several times, etc.  
Apple instructed me to manually reset the device, etc.The long and short of 
it is, regardless of others’ pleasant experiences with HomePod setup, mine was 
not.

Fortunately, there is something out there for everyone.

Mark


From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2021 9:01 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music and Siri versus Amazon Music with Alexa, Just Listen

Hi, Tim,

I’m so glad you posted this.  Those were my exact thoughts when I read Mark’s 
post.  I love my Homepods, and I love Apple Music.  I’ve never had any of the 
frustrations Mark described, but I do have all my Homepods and Minis set to 
automatically update.  And as for base, I was surprised by Mark’s comments.  I 
consider myself someone who really hates too much base, and I’m quite 
comfortable with the base level on the HomePod.  Of course, one’s tolerance for 
base is subjective, so I’m not saying Mark’s assessment is wrong, just that for 
me, who also prefers lighter base, the HomePod is just fine.

No offense, Mark, no criticism intended here.  We are all entitled to our own 
opinions and the ways in which we use and experience tech are highly 
subjective.  I just wanted to support Tim’s message.
Cheers,
Donna


On Oct 30, 2021, at 9:56 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Hi Mark,

Thanks for sharing your experience.  I will, though, dispel a few possible 
misconceptions pointed out here.

• updating the HomePod.  If you have it set to automatically update software, 
it will just do it in the middle of the night, or some other convenient time 
when you’re not playing music on it.  My two HomePods and two HomePod Minis are 
all up to date with iOS 15 and I have not touched that interface in months.
• as to the difficulty updating them if not set to update automatically, I’d be 
interested in learning why you found it awkward.  Again, when in the Home app, 
this is a straight forward and logical process in my opinion.
• Apple Music has curated playlists as well.  You could say something like “Hey 
Siri, play the best of the 70’s”, and she would do just that.  Well, it’s a 
matter of opinion whether it would actually be the best of the 70’s.  When I 
tested this, I heard a couple of hours of 70’s music, far too much Disco for my 
liking, but some good old 70’s Top 40, like Orleans and Nazareth, even 
including some classic Canadian music like BTO and Gordon Lightfoot.
• if bass isn’t your thing, you may wish to go for the HomePod mini instead of 
the HomePod.  All the same Siri features, a much smaller footprint, much 
cheaper, and not near the bass simply due to its smaller size.

Now, I realize that you were simply sharing your own personal preferences, and 
we are all definitely welcome to our own feelings on such things.  I just 
didn’t want people to think that Apple Music was lacking in some manner 
compared to Amazon Music.  I believe that all these services have their 
benefits and drawbacks, but curated playlists is not one of them.

Lastly, if I was in the US, I’d take the HomePod off your hands as they are 
rather difficult items to get ahold of nowadays.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Professional Learning Specialist
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada


On Oct 29, 2021, at 4:49 PM, M. Taylor <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:

Hello Everyone,

First, the following is just my musings as to my recent discovery regarding
using Homepod with Siri and Echo with Alexa.

Second, this is the first time, since September 27th, that I have felt calm
enough and comfortable enough to write anything other than tech support
questions (smile).

Okay, it has long been my goal to begin using Apple Music on my HomePod in
order to have ambient music throughout my home.  

One reason why I have not yet done this is because of the lack of a
device-specific audio equalizer for HomePod.

For the most part, I had kind of given up on setting up any kind of audio
ambient system in my house if for no other reason than doing so seemed less
and less important.

Okay, now we go back to September 27th, 2021; the day upon which my beloved
Windows 7 PC virtually blew up; while it did not explode, it did, in fact
begin to smoke (smile), no kidding.

For the next two weeks or so, I began my long journey into the world of
Windows 10 on a new desktop PC, Fusion, a new version of iTunes for Windows,
and more.  Add to this the fact that my primary router, which I had been
using for over 10 years, also stopped working during this period.  

You know?  They say that bad things come in threes; I think this is true
because I could not update my beloved iPad Pro 10.5 to iPad 

Re: Apple Music and Siri versus Amazon Music with Alexa, Just Listen

2021-10-30 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Hi, Tim,

I’m so glad you posted this.  Those were my exact thoughts when I read Mark’s 
post.  I love my Homepods, and I love Apple Music.  I’ve never had any of the 
frustrations Mark described, but I do have all my Homepods and Minis set to 
automatically update.  And as for base, I was surprised by Mark’s comments.  I 
consider myself someone who really hates too much base, and I’m quite 
comfortable with the base level on the HomePod.  Of course, one’s tolerance for 
base is subjective, so I’m not saying Mark’s assessment is wrong, just that for 
me, who also prefers lighter base, the HomePod is just fine.

No offense, Mark, no criticism intended here.  We are all entitled to our own 
opinions and the ways in which we use and experience tech are highly 
subjective.  I just wanted to support Tim’s message.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Oct 30, 2021, at 9:56 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mark,
> 
> Thanks for sharing your experience.  I will, though, dispel a few possible 
> misconceptions pointed out here.
> 
> • updating the HomePod.  If you have it set to automatically update software, 
> it will just do it in the middle of the night, or some other convenient time 
> when you’re not playing music on it.  My two HomePods and two HomePod Minis 
> are all up to date with iOS 15 and I have not touched that interface in 
> months.
> • as to the difficulty updating them if not set to update automatically, I’d 
> be interested in learning why you found it awkward.  Again, when in the Home 
> app, this is a straight forward and logical process in my opinion.
> • Apple Music has curated playlists as well.  You could say something like 
> “Hey Siri, play the best of the 70’s”, and she would do just that.  Well, 
> it’s a matter of opinion whether it would actually be the best of the 70’s.  
> When I tested this, I heard a couple of hours of 70’s music, far too much 
> Disco for my liking, but some good old 70’s Top 40, like Orleans and 
> Nazareth, even including some classic Canadian music like BTO and Gordon 
> Lightfoot.
> • if bass isn’t your thing, you may wish to go for the HomePod mini instead 
> of the HomePod.  All the same Siri features, a much smaller footprint, much 
> cheaper, and not near the bass simply due to its smaller size.
> 
> Now, I realize that you were simply sharing your own personal preferences, 
> and we are all definitely welcome to our own feelings on such things.  I just 
> didn’t want people to think that Apple Music was lacking in some manner 
> compared to Amazon Music.  I believe that all these services have their 
> benefits and drawbacks, but curated playlists is not one of them.
> 
> Lastly, if I was in the US, I’d take the HomePod off your hands as they are 
> rather difficult items to get ahold of nowadays.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Oct 29, 2021, at 4:49 PM, M. Taylor > <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> First, the following is just my musings as to my recent discovery regarding
>> using Homepod with Siri and Echo with Alexa.
>> 
>> Second, this is the first time, since September 27th, that I have felt calm
>> enough and comfortable enough to write anything other than tech support
>> questions (smile).
>> 
>> Okay, it has long been my goal to begin using Apple Music on my HomePod in
>> order to have ambient music throughout my home.  
>> 
>> One reason why I have not yet done this is because of the lack of a
>> device-specific audio equalizer for HomePod.
>> 
>> For the most part, I had kind of given up on setting up any kind of audio
>> ambient system in my house if for no other reason than doing so seemed less
>> and less important.
>> 
>> Okay, now we go back to September 27th, 2021; the day upon which my beloved
>> Windows 7 PC virtually blew up; while it did not explode, it did, in fact
>> begin to smoke (smile), no kidding.
>> 
>> For the next two weeks or so, I began my long journey into the world of
>> Windows 10 on a new desktop PC, Fusion, a new version of iTunes for Windows,
>> and more.  Add to this the fact that my primary router, which I had been
>> using for over 10 years, also stopped working during this period.  
>> 
>> You know?  They say that bad things come in threes; I think this is true
>> because I could not update my beloved iPad Pro 10.5 to iPad 15.1 because it
>> would not / could not get passed the software verification screen.
>> 
>> I write all of this so that you may begin to u

Re: Apple Music and Siri versus Amazon Music with Alexa, Just Listen

2021-10-30 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi Mark,

Thanks for sharing your experience.  I will, though, dispel a few possible 
misconceptions pointed out here.

• updating the HomePod.  If you have it set to automatically update software, 
it will just do it in the middle of the night, or some other convenient time 
when you’re not playing music on it.  My two HomePods and two HomePod Minis are 
all up to date with iOS 15 and I have not touched that interface in months.
• as to the difficulty updating them if not set to update automatically, I’d be 
interested in learning why you found it awkward.  Again, when in the Home app, 
this is a straight forward and logical process in my opinion.
• Apple Music has curated playlists as well.  You could say something like “Hey 
Siri, play the best of the 70’s”, and she would do just that.  Well, it’s a 
matter of opinion whether it would actually be the best of the 70’s.  When I 
tested this, I heard a couple of hours of 70’s music, far too much Disco for my 
liking, but some good old 70’s Top 40, like Orleans and Nazareth, even 
including some classic Canadian music like BTO and Gordon Lightfoot.
• if bass isn’t your thing, you may wish to go for the HomePod mini instead of 
the HomePod.  All the same Siri features, a much smaller footprint, much 
cheaper, and not near the bass simply due to its smaller size.

Now, I realize that you were simply sharing your own personal preferences, and 
we are all definitely welcome to our own feelings on such things.  I just 
didn’t want people to think that Apple Music was lacking in some manner 
compared to Amazon Music.  I believe that all these services have their 
benefits and drawbacks, but curated playlists is not one of them.

Lastly, if I was in the US, I’d take the HomePod off your hands as they are 
rather difficult items to get ahold of nowadays.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Professional Learning Specialist
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On Oct 29, 2021, at 4:49 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> First, the following is just my musings as to my recent discovery regarding
> using Homepod with Siri and Echo with Alexa.
> 
> Second, this is the first time, since September 27th, that I have felt calm
> enough and comfortable enough to write anything other than tech support
> questions (smile).
> 
> Okay, it has long been my goal to begin using Apple Music on my HomePod in
> order to have ambient music throughout my home.  
> 
> One reason why I have not yet done this is because of the lack of a
> device-specific audio equalizer for HomePod.
> 
> For the most part, I had kind of given up on setting up any kind of audio
> ambient system in my house if for no other reason than doing so seemed less
> and less important.
> 
> Okay, now we go back to September 27th, 2021; the day upon which my beloved
> Windows 7 PC virtually blew up; while it did not explode, it did, in fact
> begin to smoke (smile), no kidding.
> 
> For the next two weeks or so, I began my long journey into the world of
> Windows 10 on a new desktop PC, Fusion, a new version of iTunes for Windows,
> and more.  Add to this the fact that my primary router, which I had been
> using for over 10 years, also stopped working during this period.  
> 
> You know?  They say that bad things come in threes; I think this is true
> because I could not update my beloved iPad Pro 10.5 to iPad 15.1 because it
> would not / could not get passed the software verification screen.
> 
> I write all of this so that you may begin to understand my mind-set which
> lead me to the Apple Music / Amazon Music decision.
> 
> Now let's jump forward to the present.
> 
> 1.
> I purchased a new, bigger better primary router and successfully integrated
> it into my system.
> 
> 2.
> While I do miss my old beloved Windows 7 PC, although it pains me to admit
> it, I am definitely beginning to appreciate all of the accessibility
> advancements made since Windows 10.  Be that as it may, I will never be a
> big fan of any Microsoft product newer than Office 2007 for a host of
> reasons that are too far off-topic for this forum.  I am now running the
> latest version of iTunes for Windows and it's not bad; seems to work well
> with Fusion, I Guess.  What I like most is that I can, once again, backup my
> Apple products without fear of a loss of support.  As an F Y I, as my iTunes
> library is located on a network drive, I did not lose any data due to the
> loss of the old computer.
> 
> 3.
> As difficult  as it is to believe, Apple tech support provided some
> excellent feedback which enabled me to update my beloved iPad Pro to iPad
> 15.1.
> 
> In light of these few but very significant recent successes, I decided that
> it was time to get this home music playback issue, 

Apple Music and Siri versus Amazon Music with Alexa, Just Listen

2021-10-29 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Everyone,

First, the following is just my musings as to my recent discovery regarding
using Homepod with Siri and Echo with Alexa.

Second, this is the first time, since September 27th, that I have felt calm
enough and comfortable enough to write anything other than tech support
questions (smile).

Okay, it has long been my goal to begin using Apple Music on my HomePod in
order to have ambient music throughout my home.  

One reason why I have not yet done this is because of the lack of a
device-specific audio equalizer for HomePod.

For the most part, I had kind of given up on setting up any kind of audio
ambient system in my house if for no other reason than doing so seemed less
and less important.

Okay, now we go back to September 27th, 2021; the day upon which my beloved
Windows 7 PC virtually blew up; while it did not explode, it did, in fact
begin to smoke (smile), no kidding.

For the next two weeks or so, I began my long journey into the world of
Windows 10 on a new desktop PC, Fusion, a new version of iTunes for Windows,
and more.  Add to this the fact that my primary router, which I had been
using for over 10 years, also stopped working during this period.  

You know?  They say that bad things come in threes; I think this is true
because I could not update my beloved iPad Pro 10.5 to iPad 15.1 because it
would not / could not get passed the software verification screen.

I write all of this so that you may begin to understand my mind-set which
lead me to the Apple Music / Amazon Music decision.

Now let's jump forward to the present.

1.
I purchased a new, bigger better primary router and successfully integrated
it into my system.

2.
While I do miss my old beloved Windows 7 PC, although it pains me to admit
it, I am definitely beginning to appreciate all of the accessibility
advancements made since Windows 10.  Be that as it may, I will never be a
big fan of any Microsoft product newer than Office 2007 for a host of
reasons that are too far off-topic for this forum.  I am now running the
latest version of iTunes for Windows and it's not bad; seems to work well
with Fusion, I Guess.  What I like most is that I can, once again, backup my
Apple products without fear of a loss of support.  As an F Y I, as my iTunes
library is located on a network drive, I did not lose any data due to the
loss of the old computer.

3.
As difficult  as it is to believe, Apple tech support provided some
excellent feedback which enabled me to update my beloved iPad Pro to iPad
15.1.

In light of these few but very significant recent successes, I decided that
it was time to get this home music playback issue, settled, once and for
all.  Essentially, I want to use my HomePod for something other than an
overpriced paperweight (smile).

Now keep in mind that all I want, in terms of music, is the ability to say
to Siri, or Alexa, or Hank (for all I care), something like, "Play popular
songs from the 70s." 

After Apple's announcement that it was launching an Apple Music
voice-control-only subscription, I thought this would be a perfect fit for
my needs.

List member Ed informed me that, although there is still not a
device-specific equalizer for HomePod, there is the ability to reduce the
bass via a new setting introduced in recent versions of the OS.

Let me say that I have not used my HomePod in over a year; I had to update
the software and, in my opinion, this was not a pleasant experience, not in
the slightest.  In fact, I found it slow and extremely frustrating.  By the
time I got it working, correctly, I was already feeling negative and
thinking, for the hundredth time, "Why did I buy this thing"

Finally, I was able to test this new reduce bass option but, still, I find
the sound a little too bass-heavy for my personal taste.  Don't get me
wrong, were I hosting a party, HomePod would be perfect.  But for casual
ambient listening?  Not so much.

I am an Amazon Prime subscriber.  So, I fired up my Echo, for the first time
in over 18 months or so.  After it powered on, it informed me that there was
a new update and that it was installing.  I did not have to do anything,
just let it do its thing.  After a few minutes, I was ready to go.  When I
looked in the device-specific settings, there was an excellent equalizer.  I
had been afraid that Amazon would have removed it but, no, it was still
there.  I said to Alexa, "Play 80s dance music," and the dance began
(smile).  I discovered that my Prime membership includes the ability to play
Amazon Music curated playlists which, after all, is exactly what I want.

So, there you have it.  For now, I am firmly in the Amazon Music camp if for
no other reason but that I can adjust the audio output, of its hardware
playback devices, to my specific comfort.

By the way, I composed this post on my new Windows PC with Fusion.

I will say that while I am currently interacting with you via a Microsoft
Window, the view from that proverbial 

Re: turning apple music off ...

2021-10-17 Thread Herbie Allen
You have to VO space on the Play Next button first. Then you can VO right to 
the play next  option and interact.

> On Oct 17, 2021, at 16:40, Patrick Ford  wrote:
> 
> Hi and thanks - the first step given I cannot find - for me there is no auto 
> play button - I do find the play next button but but vcannot interact with it 
> - I have gone through the menus but no auto play in menus - maybe because I 
> have this m1  mac the path is different - 
> Come and See
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>> First, you will need a song  playing. Once you have a song going,  VO right 
>> to Autoplay and VO space on the button. Now VO right to the “Play Next” and 
>> interact. The first thing you should see is a "Play Next, and Autoplay is on 
>> button” Interact and VO right to the Autoplay button and VO Space. That will 
>> disable the feature. You can pause the  song if you want once you start it 
>> playing.
>> 
>>> On Oct 17, 2021, at 13:50, Patrick Ford  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> After my playlist ends, apple music continues with their own idea of the 
>>> music. Where do I go to tuen turn this off?
>>> Thanks.
>>> Patrick 
>>> 
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Re: turning apple music off ...

2021-10-17 Thread Patrick Ford
Hi and thanks - the first step given I cannot find - for me there is no auto 
play button - I do find the play next button but but vcannot interact with it - 
I have gone through the menus but no auto play in menus - maybe because I have 
this m1  mac the path is different - 
Come and See
scripturepassage-subscr...@groups.io

> On Oct 17, 2021, at 5:07 PM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
> 
> First, you will need a song  playing. Once you have a song going,  VO right 
> to Autoplay and VO space on the button. Now VO right to the “Play Next” and 
> interact. The first thing you should see is a "Play Next, and Autoplay is on 
> button” Interact and VO right to the Autoplay button and VO Space. That will 
> disable the feature. You can pause the  song if you want once you start it 
> playing.
> 
>> On Oct 17, 2021, at 13:50, Patrick Ford  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> After my playlist ends, apple music continues with their own idea of the 
>> music. Where do I go to tuen turn this off?
>> Thanks.
>> Patrick 
>> 
>> Come and See
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Re: turning apple music off ...

2021-10-17 Thread Herbie Allen
First, you will need a song  playing. Once you have a song going,  VO right to 
Autoplay and VO space on the button. Now VO right to the “Play Next” and 
interact. The first thing you should see is a "Play Next, and Autoplay is on 
button” Interact and VO right to the Autoplay button and VO Space. That will 
disable the feature. You can pause the  song if you want once you start it 
playing.

> On Oct 17, 2021, at 13:50, Patrick Ford  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> After my playlist ends, apple music continues with their own idea of the 
> music. Where do I go to tuen turn this off?
> Thanks.
> Patrick 
> 
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turning apple music off ...

2021-10-17 Thread Patrick Ford
Hi,
After my playlist ends, apple music continues with their own idea of the music. 
Where do I go to tuen turn this off?
Thanks.
Patrick 

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Re: Apple Music On Mac?

2021-10-11 Thread Brad Snyder
Before you can do any of this, you must first go in to preferences for the 
music app, and enable Apple Music.

- Brad -

On Oct 11, 2021, at 21:09, Herbie Allen  wrote:

Launch the music app. VO right to the side bar and interact. At the top you 
will see a search icon and if you continue to VO right you will find various 
playlists though unless you’ve added or created any, then don’t worry about 
that just yet. In the search dialog, type what you are looking for, it is not 
the most friendly VO friendly and will not easily read what you’re typing. Hit 
enter and VO J. It should take you to a section. There’s a web part you want to 
  interact with and you should be good. You van navigate by heading through the 
 diferent sections and  click the play button or on any  albums.  You can find 
the enhanced music options under preferences for high quality and all that good 
stuff.

> On Oct 11, 2021, at 20:48, Fazil  wrote:
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> Hi, Group.
> I have subscribed to Apple Music lately, how can I listen to Apple Music on 
> my MacBookPro2017?
> Thanks!
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Re: Apple Music On Mac?

2021-10-11 Thread Herbie Allen
Launch the music app. VO right to the side bar and interact. At the top you 
will see a search icon and if you continue to VO right you will find various 
playlists though unless you’ve added or created any, then don’t worry about 
that just yet. In the search dialog, type what you are looking for, it is not 
the most friendly VO friendly and will not easily read what you’re typing. Hit 
enter and VO J. It should take you to a section. There’s a web part you want to 
  interact with and you should be good. You van navigate by heading through the 
 diferent sections and  click the play button or on any  albums.  You can find 
the enhanced music options under preferences for high quality and all that good 
stuff.

> On Oct 11, 2021, at 20:48, Fazil  wrote:
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Apple Music On Mac?

2021-10-11 Thread Fazil
Hi, Group.

I have subscribed to Apple Music lately, how can I listen to Apple Music on
my MacBookPro2017?

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Re: Sonos and Apple Music

2021-10-10 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi,

In this case that Donna outlined, the HomePods, or HomePod Minis, are what 
Apple calls a “Home Hub”.  The Home Hub is needed to coordinate your Apple Home 
experience.  The Apple TV HD or Apple TV 4K can also work as your Home Hub, so 
when adding the Sonos speakers to your Apple Home, HomePods are not the only 
option.  An iPad can also be used as a Home Hub, but the iPad that is being 
used as the home Hub needs to be left at home if you wish it to control devices 
in your home when you are away.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
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> On Oct 9, 2021, at 1:58 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Just to clarify what I wrote, it’s not imperative that you group the Sonos 
> speakers with a HomePod or a HomePod mini, but you do have to add them to 
> HomeKit. Once they’re added to HomeKit you can use Siri to control them.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 9, 2021, at 2:48 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> If you have HomePods or HomePod minis in your home, you can group your Sonos 
>> speakers with them, and then use Siri to talk to the HomePod devices, which 
>> will in turn play the music on your Sonos speakers. Hope this helps.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 9, 2021, at 1:36 PM, joseph hodge  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> You're not doing anything wrong! The issue is Google try to steal things 
>>> from Sonos as far as how they do Mesh networking and trade secrets. And 
>>> retaliation from Sono suing them they have pretty much neuter the Google 
>>> assistant on Sonos devices. It's often happens though in third-party 
>>> devices with voice assistance it's not an equal playing Ground. The only 
>>> way to get apple music to work with voice on Sonos currently is with Alexa.
>>> 
>>> On October 9, 2021 8:47:22 AM Ian Harrison  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hello all,
>>>> 
>>>> I use google assistant on my Sonos speakers but they refuse to play my 
>>>> Apple playlists etc. However, I can perform this instruction on my google 
>>>> nest mini. What am I not doing properly?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>> Ian
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Re: Sonos and Apple Music

2021-10-09 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Just to clarify what I wrote, it’s not imperative that you group the Sonos 
speakers with a HomePod or a HomePod mini, but you do have to add them to 
HomeKit. Once they’re added to HomeKit you can use Siri to control them.
Cheers,
Donna

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 9, 2021, at 2:48 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> If you have HomePods or HomePod minis in your home, you can group your Sonos 
> speakers with them, and then use Siri to talk to the HomePod devices, which 
> will in turn play the music on your Sonos speakers. Hope this helps.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Oct 9, 2021, at 1:36 PM, joseph hodge  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> You're not doing anything wrong! The issue is Google try to steal things 
>> from Sonos as far as how they do Mesh networking and trade secrets. And 
>> retaliation from Sono suing them they have pretty much neuter the Google 
>> assistant on Sonos devices. It's often happens though in third-party devices 
>> with voice assistance it's not an equal playing Ground. The only way to get 
>> apple music to work with voice on Sonos currently is with Alexa.
>> 
>>> On October 9, 2021 8:47:22 AM Ian Harrison  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello all,
>>> 
>>> I use google assistant on my Sonos speakers but they refuse to play my 
>>> Apple playlists etc. However, I can perform this instruction on my google 
>>> nest mini. What am I not doing properly?
>>> 
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>> Ian
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Re: Sonos and Apple Music

2021-10-09 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Hi,

If you have HomePods or HomePod minis in your home, you can group your Sonos 
speakers with them, and then use Siri to talk to the HomePod devices, which 
will in turn play the music on your Sonos speakers. Hope this helps.
Cheers,
Donna

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 9, 2021, at 1:36 PM, joseph hodge  wrote:
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> 
> You're not doing anything wrong! The issue is Google try to steal things from 
> Sonos as far as how they do Mesh networking and trade secrets. And 
> retaliation from Sono suing them they have pretty much neuter the Google 
> assistant on Sonos devices. It's often happens though in third-party devices 
> with voice assistance it's not an equal playing Ground. The only way to get 
> apple music to work with voice on Sonos currently is with Alexa.
> 
>> On October 9, 2021 8:47:22 AM Ian Harrison  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello all,
>> 
>> I use google assistant on my Sonos speakers but they refuse to play my Apple 
>> playlists etc. However, I can perform this instruction on my google nest 
>> mini. What am I not doing properly?
>> 
>> Thanks in advance.
>> Ian
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Re: Sonos and Apple Music

2021-10-09 Thread joseph hodge
You're not doing anything wrong! The issue is Google try to steal things 
from Sonos as far as how they do Mesh networking and trade secrets. And 
retaliation from Sono suing them they have pretty much neuter the Google 
assistant on Sonos devices. It's often happens though in third-party 
devices with voice assistance it's not an equal playing Ground. The only 
way to get apple music to work with voice on Sonos currently is with Alexa.



On October 9, 2021 8:47:22 AM Ian Harrison  wrote:


Hello all,

I use google assistant on my Sonos speakers but they refuse to play my 
Apple playlists etc. However, I can perform this instruction on my google 
nest mini. What am I not doing properly?


Thanks in advance.
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Sonos and Apple Music

2021-10-09 Thread Ian Harrison
Hello all,

I use google assistant on my Sonos speakers but they refuse to play my Apple 
playlists etc. However, I can perform this instruction on my google nest mini. 
What am I not doing properly?

Thanks in advance.
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Re: repeat mode in apple music

2021-08-28 Thread Herbie Allen
So with itoff, it should not repeat any songs, once means it should repeat 
once, and the other one should work indefinitely. I have not played with that 
feature much but will do so.

> On Aug 28, 2021, at 10:00, Patrick Ford  wrote:
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> How is repeat mode set for on in apple music? In the control menu there is a 
> repeat menu with 3 options: off, all, or 1. But it does not seem to function. 
> This is with a M1 mac book air.
> Thanks.
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repeat mode in apple music

2021-08-28 Thread Patrick Ford
Hi,
How is repeat mode set for on in apple music? In the control menu there is a 
repeat menu with 3 options: off, all, or 1. But it does not seem to function. 
This is with a M1 mac book air.
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Re: Apple Music or other provider

2021-06-20 Thread 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries



On 19/6/21 1:55 pm, Anders Holmberg wrote:
But now since apple has started using lossless I guess it will sound 
as good as a cd.

At least for me.

Up to 192khz audio, provided you have the right equipment, and, I 
assume, depending on the source format of the recording - hence, 
significantly better than a CD.



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Re: Apple Music or other provider

2021-06-18 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
I will of course start with the same caveat that others have offered - that 
this is a very subjective decision.  But I agree with Anders and Mary.  I like 
Apple Music a lot.  It is very accessible as Anders says.  I also like how it 
interfaces with my Music library.  For example, if I tell Siri to play an album 
from my library, that album will play, and then Apple Music will keep playing 
music that is similar to that album until I tell it to stop.  I’ve discovered 
quite a bit of new music that way.

I have Apple Music, free Pandora, and free Spotify.  Of the three, my favorite 
is Apple Music.  If you use Siri a lot to play music, I think Apple Music is 
the easiest.  Pandora works pretty well, and, though I haven’t tried it, I 
think there’ve been improvements in how Spotify works with Siri.  But I find 
Apple Music to be most seamless.

Cheers,
Donna

> On Jun 18, 2021, at 2:59 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
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> Hi!
> I think you should stay.
> Apple Music is really good.
> And I think its good in terms of accessibility too.
> /A
> 
>> 18 juni 2021 kl. 15:50 skrev Rebecca Sabo > <mailto:beckyas...@gmail.com>>:
>> 
>> Hi all
>> I have a free subscription of Apple Music, I got it  when I got my iPad. My 
>> free subscription ends in July. What should I do should I stay or is your 
>> and your subscription? Thanks
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> On Jun 16, 2021, at 11:41 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Ronald,
>> 
>> You’re most welcome.  Yes, modifying the decoder within the AirPlay or 
>> AirPlay 2  protocol would be a great solution.  It would be interesting if 
>> Apple made the Apple Music app available to be installed on sound systems in 
>> the way that they made Apple TV installable on some smart TV’s.  This would 
>> make things extremely easy in my opinion.  I know that Spotify is available 
>> on my AV receiver, so if Apple Music was available as well, then the whole 
>> Apple TV connection may not be needed.
>> 
>> Regarding the Chrome Cast vs AirPlay question, there’s advantages and 
>> disadvantages to both devices.  Of course, it likely depends on your use 
>> case, your adoption of one eco-system vs the other, and other factors.  
>> Here’s an article where one person gives there opinion on the benefits and 
>> drawbacks of each.
>> 
>> https://www.allhomerobotics.com/airplay-vs-chromecast-which-one/ 
>> <https://www.allhomerobotics.com/airplay-vs-chromecast-which-one/>
>> 
>> Remember, this is only the opinion of this fellow and we all have our own 
>> biases.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>>> On Jun 16, 2021, at 10:46 AM, Ronald van Rhijn >> <mailto:pa...@xs4all.nl>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Tim,
>>> 
>>> Many thanks for all your information, really appreciate it!
>>> So I have to run the Apple Music app on Apple TV 4k and send the audio 
>>> through a hdmi cable to the audio device. That figures, it is a bit 
>>> cumbersome to have to do it this way though. 
>>> There’s hope that Apple will fix this lossless to lossy stream, because 
>>> Airplay is able to stream lossless after all.
>>> The audio device isn’t a normal receiver, its a complete music-system. So I 
>>> definately have to check for hdmi ports on that.
>>> On another note, i cannot get why Apple only offers Airplay. I prefer the 
>>> way Chromecast does it, it gets its own signal from the internet.
>>> 
>>> Anyways, thanks again.
>>> 
>>> Ronald
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  Op 16 jun. 2021, om 17:48 heeft 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> het volgende geschreven:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> The Apple TV has to be the device sending the music to the receiver.  If 
>>>> you AirPlay from your iPhone to the Apple TV, then it is the iPhone that 
>>>> is in control, and thus you are essentially using AirPlay to deal with the 
>>>> music, and AirPlay which then limits the bandwidth.   The Apple TV 4K is 
>>>> perfectly accessible and supports Siri, thus you can ask music to be 
>>>> played via the Siri remote for the Apple TV.  As long as the receiver has 
>>>> HDMI input, you’re good to go.  There’s no need to conne

Re: Apple Music or other provider

2021-06-18 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
I think you should stay.
Apple Music is really good.
And I think its good in terms of accessibility too.
/A

> 18 juni 2021 kl. 15:50 skrev Rebecca Sabo :
> 
> Hi all
> I have a free subscription of Apple Music, I got it  when I got my iPad. My 
> free subscription ends in July. What should I do should I stay or is your and 
> your subscription? Thanks
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Jun 16, 2021, at 11:41 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Ronald,
> 
> You’re most welcome.  Yes, modifying the decoder within the AirPlay or 
> AirPlay 2  protocol would be a great solution.  It would be interesting if 
> Apple made the Apple Music app available to be installed on sound systems in 
> the way that they made Apple TV installable on some smart TV’s.  This would 
> make things extremely easy in my opinion.  I know that Spotify is available 
> on my AV receiver, so if Apple Music was available as well, then the whole 
> Apple TV connection may not be needed.
> 
> Regarding the Chrome Cast vs AirPlay question, there’s advantages and 
> disadvantages to both devices.  Of course, it likely depends on your use 
> case, your adoption of one eco-system vs the other, and other factors.  
> Here’s an article where one person gives there opinion on the benefits and 
> drawbacks of each.
> 
> https://www.allhomerobotics.com/airplay-vs-chromecast-which-one/ 
> <https://www.allhomerobotics.com/airplay-vs-chromecast-which-one/>
> 
> Remember, this is only the opinion of this fellow and we all have our own 
> biases.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Jun 16, 2021, at 10:46 AM, Ronald van Rhijn > <mailto:pa...@xs4all.nl>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Tim,
>> 
>> Many thanks for all your information, really appreciate it!
>> So I have to run the Apple Music app on Apple TV 4k and send the audio 
>> through a hdmi cable to the audio device. That figures, it is a bit 
>> cumbersome to have to do it this way though. 
>> There’s hope that Apple will fix this lossless to lossy stream, because 
>> Airplay is able to stream lossless after all.
>> The audio device isn’t a normal receiver, its a complete music-system. So I 
>> definately have to check for hdmi ports on that.
>> On another note, i cannot get why Apple only offers Airplay. I prefer the 
>> way Chromecast does it, it gets its own signal from the internet.
>> 
>> Anyways, thanks again.
>> 
>> Ronald
>>  
>> 
>>  Op 16 jun. 2021, om 17:48 heeft 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> het volgende geschreven:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> The Apple TV has to be the device sending the music to the receiver.  If 
>>> you AirPlay from your iPhone to the Apple TV, then it is the iPhone that is 
>>> in control, and thus you are essentially using AirPlay to deal with the 
>>> music, and AirPlay which then limits the bandwidth.   The Apple TV 4K is 
>>> perfectly accessible and supports Siri, thus you can ask music to be played 
>>> via the Siri remote for the Apple TV.  As long as the receiver has HDMI 
>>> input, you’re good to go.  There’s no need to connect a TV for the video 
>>> when playing music.  There are ways of using your iPhone as a remote for 
>>> the Apple TV, but it’s not really that necessary with the Siri remote.
>>> 
>>> I would say that all AV modern receivers would have HDMI inputs and 
>>> outputs, but if it’s not an AV receiver that you’re interested in, then 
>>> you’ll need to confirm.
>>> 
>>> Later…
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Jamf Certified Tech
>>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 16, 2021, at 9:30 AM, Ronald van Rhijn >>> <mailto:pa...@xs4all.nl>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Tim,
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks. That was something where I feared for. I honestly don’t know if 
>>>> the music system which I am interested in has any hdmi ports, but even if 
>>>> it does and I get an Apple TV 4k for this, how do I control Apple Music? 
>>>> From the Apple TV or from my iPhone too? The latter is my preferred method.
>>>> 
>>>> Ronald
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Op 16 jun. 2021, om 1

Re: Apple Music or other provider

2021-06-18 Thread Mary Otten
As somebody else already said, that decision is up to you, based on your usage 
and whether you’re happy with the service. You can save some money if you get a 
yearly subscription. I believe the cost for that is $100, or $99.99. That means 
that you would be saving about $20 over the monthly price. I like Apple Music. 
Others like Spotify. If you have AirPods Pro or AirPods Max, he would be able 
to take advantage of spatial audio, which I think is kind of cool.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 18, 2021, at 6:50 AM, Rebecca Sabo  wrote:
> 
> Hi all
> I have a free subscription of Apple Music, I got it  when I got my iPad. My 
> free subscription ends in July. What should I do should I stay or is your and 
> your subscription? Thanks
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Jun 16, 2021, at 11:41 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Ronald,
> 
> You’re most welcome.  Yes, modifying the decoder within the AirPlay or 
> AirPlay 2  protocol would be a great solution.  It would be interesting if 
> Apple made the Apple Music app available to be installed on sound systems in 
> the way that they made Apple TV installable on some smart TV’s.  This would 
> make things extremely easy in my opinion.  I know that Spotify is available 
> on my AV receiver, so if Apple Music was available as well, then the whole 
> Apple TV connection may not be needed.
> 
> Regarding the Chrome Cast vs AirPlay question, there’s advantages and 
> disadvantages to both devices.  Of course, it likely depends on your use 
> case, your adoption of one eco-system vs the other, and other factors.  
> Here’s an article where one person gives there opinion on the benefits and 
> drawbacks of each.
> 
> https://www.allhomerobotics.com/airplay-vs-chromecast-which-one/
> 
> Remember, this is only the opinion of this fellow and we all have our own 
> biases.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Jun 16, 2021, at 10:46 AM, Ronald van Rhijn  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Tim,
>> 
>> Many thanks for all your information, really appreciate it!
>> So I have to run the Apple Music app on Apple TV 4k and send the audio 
>> through a hdmi cable to the audio device. That figures, it is a bit 
>> cumbersome to have to do it this way though. 
>> There’s hope that Apple will fix this lossless to lossy stream, because 
>> Airplay is able to stream lossless after all.
>> The audio device isn’t a normal receiver, its a complete music-system. So I 
>> definately have to check for hdmi ports on that.
>> On another note, i cannot get why Apple only offers Airplay. I prefer the 
>> way Chromecast does it, it gets its own signal from the internet.
>> 
>> Anyways, thanks again.
>> 
>> Ronald
>>  
>> 
>>  Op 16 jun. 2021, om 17:48 heeft 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>  het volgende geschreven:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> The Apple TV has to be the device sending the music to the receiver.  If 
>>> you AirPlay from your iPhone to the Apple TV, then it is the iPhone that is 
>>> in control, and thus you are essentially using AirPlay to deal with the 
>>> music, and AirPlay which then limits the bandwidth.   The Apple TV 4K is 
>>> perfectly accessible and supports Siri, thus you can ask music to be played 
>>> via the Siri remote for the Apple TV.  As long as the receiver has HDMI 
>>> input, you’re good to go.  There’s no need to connect a TV for the video 
>>> when playing music.  There are ways of using your iPhone as a remote for 
>>> the Apple TV, but it’s not really that necessary with the Siri remote.
>>> 
>>> I would say that all AV modern receivers would have HDMI inputs and 
>>> outputs, but if it’s not an AV receiver that you’re interested in, then 
>>> you’ll need to confirm.
>>> 
>>> Later…
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Jamf Certified Tech
>>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 16, 2021, at 9:30 AM, Ronald van Rhijn  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Tim,
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks. That was something where I feared for. I honestly don’t know if 
>>>> the music system which I am interested in has any hdmi ports, but even if 
>>>> it does and I get an Apple TV 4k for this, how do I control Apple Music? 
>>>> From the Apple TV or from 

Re: Apple Music or other provider

2021-06-18 Thread Brad Snyder
I think that is a question that only you can answer for yourself.
Once your trial subscription ends in July, you will be charged $9.99 USD per 
month, if you decide to keep the service.
If you feel the Apple Music service is worth $9.99 each month, then you should 
keep it.  If you do not feel the service is worth $9.99, then you should end 
your subscription at least 1 day before the end of your trial, and you will not 
be charged.

- Brad -


On Jun 18, 2021, at 08:50, Rebecca Sabo  wrote:

Hi all
I have a free subscription of Apple Music, I got it  when I got my iPad. My 
free subscription ends in July. What should I do should I stay or is your and 
your subscription? Thanks

Sent from my iPad

On Jun 16, 2021, at 11:41 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Hi Ronald,

You’re most welcome.  Yes, modifying the decoder within the AirPlay or AirPlay 
2  protocol would be a great solution.  It would be interesting if Apple made 
the Apple Music app available to be installed on sound systems in the way that 
they made Apple TV installable on some smart TV’s.  This would make things 
extremely easy in my opinion.  I know that Spotify is available on my AV 
receiver, so if Apple Music was available as well, then the whole Apple TV 
connection may not be needed.

Regarding the Chrome Cast vs AirPlay question, there’s advantages and 
disadvantages to both devices.  Of course, it likely depends on your use case, 
your adoption of one eco-system vs the other, and other factors.  Here’s an 
article where one person gives there opinion on the benefits and drawbacks of 
each.

https://www.allhomerobotics.com/airplay-vs-chromecast-which-one/ 
<https://www.allhomerobotics.com/airplay-vs-chromecast-which-one/>

Remember, this is only the opinion of this fellow and we all have our own 
biases.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Professional Learning Specialist
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On Jun 16, 2021, at 10:46 AM, Ronald van Rhijn  <mailto:pa...@xs4all.nl>> wrote:
> 
> Hi Tim,
> 
> Many thanks for all your information, really appreciate it!
> So I have to run the Apple Music app on Apple TV 4k and send the audio 
> through a hdmi cable to the audio device. That figures, it is a bit 
> cumbersome to have to do it this way though. 
> There’s hope that Apple will fix this lossless to lossy stream, because 
> Airplay is able to stream lossless after all.
> The audio device isn’t a normal receiver, its a complete music-system. So I 
> definately have to check for hdmi ports on that.
> On another note, i cannot get why Apple only offers Airplay. I prefer the way 
> Chromecast does it, it gets its own signal from the internet.
> 
> Anyways, thanks again.
> 
> Ronald
>  
> 
>  Op 16 jun. 2021, om 17:48 heeft 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> het volgende geschreven:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> The Apple TV has to be the device sending the music to the receiver.  If you 
>> AirPlay from your iPhone to the Apple TV, then it is the iPhone that is in 
>> control, and thus you are essentially using AirPlay to deal with the music, 
>> and AirPlay which then limits the bandwidth.   The Apple TV 4K is perfectly 
>> accessible and supports Siri, thus you can ask music to be played via the 
>> Siri remote for the Apple TV.  As long as the receiver has HDMI input, 
>> you’re good to go.  There’s no need to connect a TV for the video when 
>> playing music.  There are ways of using your iPhone as a remote for the 
>> Apple TV, but it’s not really that necessary with the Siri remote.
>> 
>> I would say that all AV modern receivers would have HDMI inputs and outputs, 
>> but if it’s not an AV receiver that you’re interested in, then you’ll need 
>> to confirm.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>>> On Jun 16, 2021, at 9:30 AM, Ronald van Rhijn >> <mailto:pa...@xs4all.nl>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Tim,
>>> 
>>> Thanks. That was something where I feared for. I honestly don’t know if the 
>>> music system which I am interested in has any hdmi ports, but even if it 
>>> does and I get an Apple TV 4k for this, how do I control Apple Music? From 
>>> the Apple TV or from my iPhone too? The latter is my preferred method.
>>> 
>>> Ronald
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Op 16 jun. 2021, om 17:12 heeft 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>>> het volgende

Apple Music or other provider

2021-06-18 Thread Rebecca Sabo
Hi all
I have a free subscription of Apple Music, I got it  when I got my iPad. My 
free subscription ends in July. What should I do should I stay or is your and 
your subscription? Thanks

Sent from my iPad

On Jun 16, 2021, at 11:41 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Hi Ronald,

You’re most welcome.  Yes, modifying the decoder within the AirPlay or AirPlay 
2  protocol would be a great solution.  It would be interesting if Apple made 
the Apple Music app available to be installed on sound systems in the way that 
they made Apple TV installable on some smart TV’s.  This would make things 
extremely easy in my opinion.  I know that Spotify is available on my AV 
receiver, so if Apple Music was available as well, then the whole Apple TV 
connection may not be needed.

Regarding the Chrome Cast vs AirPlay question, there’s advantages and 
disadvantages to both devices.  Of course, it likely depends on your use case, 
your adoption of one eco-system vs the other, and other factors.  Here’s an 
article where one person gives there opinion on the benefits and drawbacks of 
each.

https://www.allhomerobotics.com/airplay-vs-chromecast-which-one/

Remember, this is only the opinion of this fellow and we all have our own 
biases.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Professional Learning Specialist
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On Jun 16, 2021, at 10:46 AM, Ronald van Rhijn  wrote:
> 
> Hi Tim,
> 
> Many thanks for all your information, really appreciate it!
> So I have to run the Apple Music app on Apple TV 4k and send the audio 
> through a hdmi cable to the audio device. That figures, it is a bit 
> cumbersome to have to do it this way though. 
> There’s hope that Apple will fix this lossless to lossy stream, because 
> Airplay is able to stream lossless after all.
> The audio device isn’t a normal receiver, its a complete music-system. So I 
> definately have to check for hdmi ports on that.
> On another note, i cannot get why Apple only offers Airplay. I prefer the way 
> Chromecast does it, it gets its own signal from the internet.
> 
> Anyways, thanks again.
> 
> Ronald
>  
> 
>  Op 16 jun. 2021, om 17:48 heeft 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  het volgende geschreven:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> The Apple TV has to be the device sending the music to the receiver.  If you 
>> AirPlay from your iPhone to the Apple TV, then it is the iPhone that is in 
>> control, and thus you are essentially using AirPlay to deal with the music, 
>> and AirPlay which then limits the bandwidth.   The Apple TV 4K is perfectly 
>> accessible and supports Siri, thus you can ask music to be played via the 
>> Siri remote for the Apple TV.  As long as the receiver has HDMI input, 
>> you’re good to go.  There’s no need to connect a TV for the video when 
>> playing music.  There are ways of using your iPhone as a remote for the 
>> Apple TV, but it’s not really that necessary with the Siri remote.
>> 
>> I would say that all AV modern receivers would have HDMI inputs and outputs, 
>> but if it’s not an AV receiver that you’re interested in, then you’ll need 
>> to confirm.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>>> On Jun 16, 2021, at 9:30 AM, Ronald van Rhijn  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Tim,
>>> 
>>> Thanks. That was something where I feared for. I honestly don’t know if the 
>>> music system which I am interested in has any hdmi ports, but even if it 
>>> does and I get an Apple TV 4k for this, how do I control Apple Music? From 
>>> the Apple TV or from my iPhone too? The latter is my preferred method.
>>> 
>>> Ronald
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Op 16 jun. 2021, om 17:12 heeft 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>  het volgende geschreven:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Ronald,
>>>> 
>>>> According to this post:
>>>> 
>>>> https://discussions.apple.com/thread/252848734
>>>> 
>>>> Both AirPlay and AirPlay 2 can actually handle lossless, but for some 
>>>> reason, the AirPlay signal is converted/compressed thus it will not be 
>>>> lossless by the time it reaches your receiver.
>>>> 
>>>> The best way to get lossless audio as well as Dolby Atmos is to use an 
>>>> Apple TV 4K connected via HDMI to the receiver.  If your system supports 
>>>> it, lossless and Dolby Atmos will be passed through to the receiver from 
>>>>

Re: Lossless Apple Music

2021-06-16 Thread Steve Matzura
Good grief! This message had more tails than message text! I cut 'em all 
off. LOL. And I thought email clients were supposed to do that 
automatically. Seems most never do. Double LOL!



Why does Apple offer only Airplay? Probably because it's their product, 
their patent, their trademarked thing, and for those who haven't figured 
it by now, Apple doesn't play or like playing with others. It likes to 
do everything for itself on its own. That's why it's called the Apple 
sandbox.



On 6/16/2021 12:46 PM, Ronald van Rhijn wrote:

Hi Tim,

Many thanks for all your information, really appreciate it!
So I have to run the Apple Music app on Apple TV 4k and send the audio 
through a hdmi cable to the audio device. That figures, it is a bit 
cumbersome to have to do it this way though.
There’s hope that Apple will fix this lossless to lossy stream, 
because Airplay is able to stream lossless after all.
The audio device isn’t a normal receiver, its a complete music-system. 
So I definately have to check for hdmi ports on that.
On another note, i cannot get why Apple only offers Airplay. I prefer 
the way Chromecast does it, it gets its own signal from the internet.


Anyways, thanks again.

Ronald

 Op 16 jun. 2021, om 17:48 heeft 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> het volgende geschreven:


Hi,

The Apple TV has to be the device sending the music to the receiver. 
 If you AirPlay from your iPhone to the Apple TV, then it is the 
iPhone that is in control, and thus you are essentially using AirPlay 
to deal with the music, and AirPlay which then limits the bandwidth. 
  The Apple TV 4K is perfectly accessible and supports Siri, thus you 
can ask music to be played via the Siri remote for the Apple TV.  As 
long as the receiver has HDMI input, you’re good to go.  There’s no 
need to connect a TV for the video when playing music.  There are 
ways of using your iPhone as a remote for the Apple TV, but it’s not 
really that necessary with the Siri remote.


I would say that all AV modern receivers would have HDMI inputs and 
outputs, but if it’s not an AV receiver that you’re interested in, 
then you’ll need to confirm.


Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Professional Learning Specialist
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jun 16, 2021, at 9:30 AM, Ronald van Rhijn <mailto:pa...@xs4all.nl>> wrote:


Hi Tim,

Thanks. That was something where I feared for. I honestly don’t know 
if the music system which I am interested in has any hdmi ports, but 
even if it does and I get an Apple TV 4k for this, how do I control 
Apple Music? From the Apple TV or from my iPhone too? The latter is 
my preferred method.


Ronald


Op 16 jun. 2021, om 17:12 heeft 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> het volgende geschreven:


Hi Ronald,

According to this post:

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/252848734 
<https://discussions.apple.com/thread/252848734>


Both AirPlay and AirPlay 2 can actually handle lossless, but for 
some reason, the AirPlay signal is converted/compressed thus it 
will not be lossless by the time it reaches your receiver.


The best way to get lossless audio as well as Dolby Atmos is to use 
an Apple TV 4K connected via HDMI to the receiver.  If your system 
supports it, lossless and Dolby Atmos will be passed through to the 
receiver from the Apple TV 4K using this setup.


Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Professional Learning Specialist
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jun 16, 2021, at 9:02 AM, Ronald van Rhijn <mailto:pa...@xs4all.nl>> wrote:


hello,

You are probably right there Tim, in being the track your are 
playing should be in lossless if you have this setting enabled. 
The problem is not every track is available in lossless yet, about 
20 million Apple says. And by the end of the year they should all be.
I want to be absolutely sure my favourite music is or will be in 
lossless, since I also use Qobuz for this reason (which is not 
accessible enough and double the price of Apple Music).
Another issue with Apple Music could be when playing on a high end 
music system. Apple Music only lets you connect through Airplay 
(if supported) and I don’t know if Airplay supports lossless audio.


best,
Ronald


Op 15 jun. 2021, om 22:22 heeft 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> het volgende geschreven:


Hi,

As far as I can tell, if you’re listening to the Apple Music 
version of a title, it will be lossless if you’ve set your device 
to play lossless.  There are other considerations as well.  See 
this article:


https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT212183 
<https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT212183>


Also, for an interesting read on the whole lossless, spacial 
audio realm

Re: Lossless Apple Music

2021-06-16 Thread Ronald van Rhijn
Interesting reading.
And btw, the limitations for streaming lossless with Airplay and Apple Music, 
lie with Apple Music in this case. Airplay is able to stream lossless audio, to 
a certain degree of course, but Apple Music doesn’t support it (yet).
Very weird. Hopefully the Apple Music app will arrive on more devices indeed.

Ronald
 

> Op 16 jun. 2021, om 19:41 heeft 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  het volgende geschreven:
> 
> Hi Ronald,
> 
> You’re most welcome.  Yes, modifying the decoder within the AirPlay or 
> AirPlay 2  protocol would be a great solution.  It would be interesting if 
> Apple made the Apple Music app available to be installed on sound systems in 
> the way that they made Apple TV installable on some smart TV’s.  This would 
> make things extremely easy in my opinion.  I know that Spotify is available 
> on my AV receiver, so if Apple Music was available as well, then the whole 
> Apple TV connection may not be needed.
> 
> Regarding the Chrome Cast vs AirPlay question, there’s advantages and 
> disadvantages to both devices.  Of course, it likely depends on your use 
> case, your adoption of one eco-system vs the other, and other factors.  
> Here’s an article where one person gives there opinion on the benefits and 
> drawbacks of each.
> 
> https://www.allhomerobotics.com/airplay-vs-chromecast-which-one/ 
> <https://www.allhomerobotics.com/airplay-vs-chromecast-which-one/>
> 
> Remember, this is only the opinion of this fellow and we all have our own 
> biases.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Jun 16, 2021, at 10:46 AM, Ronald van Rhijn > <mailto:pa...@xs4all.nl>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Tim,
>> 
>> Many thanks for all your information, really appreciate it!
>> So I have to run the Apple Music app on Apple TV 4k and send the audio 
>> through a hdmi cable to the audio device. That figures, it is a bit 
>> cumbersome to have to do it this way though. 
>> There’s hope that Apple will fix this lossless to lossy stream, because 
>> Airplay is able to stream lossless after all.
>> The audio device isn’t a normal receiver, its a complete music-system. So I 
>> definately have to check for hdmi ports on that.
>> On another note, i cannot get why Apple only offers Airplay. I prefer the 
>> way Chromecast does it, it gets its own signal from the internet.
>> 
>> Anyways, thanks again.
>> 
>> Ronald
>>  
>> 
>>  Op 16 jun. 2021, om 17:48 heeft 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> het volgende geschreven:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> The Apple TV has to be the device sending the music to the receiver.  If 
>>> you AirPlay from your iPhone to the Apple TV, then it is the iPhone that is 
>>> in control, and thus you are essentially using AirPlay to deal with the 
>>> music, and AirPlay which then limits the bandwidth.   The Apple TV 4K is 
>>> perfectly accessible and supports Siri, thus you can ask music to be played 
>>> via the Siri remote for the Apple TV.  As long as the receiver has HDMI 
>>> input, you’re good to go.  There’s no need to connect a TV for the video 
>>> when playing music.  There are ways of using your iPhone as a remote for 
>>> the Apple TV, but it’s not really that necessary with the Siri remote.
>>> 
>>> I would say that all AV modern receivers would have HDMI inputs and 
>>> outputs, but if it’s not an AV receiver that you’re interested in, then 
>>> you’ll need to confirm.
>>> 
>>> Later…
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Jamf Certified Tech
>>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 16, 2021, at 9:30 AM, Ronald van Rhijn >>> <mailto:pa...@xs4all.nl>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Tim,
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks. That was something where I feared for. I honestly don’t know if 
>>>> the music system which I am interested in has any hdmi ports, but even if 
>>>> it does and I get an Apple TV 4k for this, how do I control Apple Music? 
>>>> From the Apple TV or from my iPhone too? The latter is my preferred method.
>>>> 
>>>> Ronald
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Op 16 jun. 2021, om 17:12 heeft 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>&

Re: Lossless Apple Music

2021-06-16 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi Ronald,

You’re most welcome.  Yes, modifying the decoder within the AirPlay or AirPlay 
2  protocol would be a great solution.  It would be interesting if Apple made 
the Apple Music app available to be installed on sound systems in the way that 
they made Apple TV installable on some smart TV’s.  This would make things 
extremely easy in my opinion.  I know that Spotify is available on my AV 
receiver, so if Apple Music was available as well, then the whole Apple TV 
connection may not be needed.

Regarding the Chrome Cast vs AirPlay question, there’s advantages and 
disadvantages to both devices.  Of course, it likely depends on your use case, 
your adoption of one eco-system vs the other, and other factors.  Here’s an 
article where one person gives there opinion on the benefits and drawbacks of 
each.

https://www.allhomerobotics.com/airplay-vs-chromecast-which-one/ 
<https://www.allhomerobotics.com/airplay-vs-chromecast-which-one/>

Remember, this is only the opinion of this fellow and we all have our own 
biases.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Professional Learning Specialist
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On Jun 16, 2021, at 10:46 AM, Ronald van Rhijn  wrote:
> 
> Hi Tim,
> 
> Many thanks for all your information, really appreciate it!
> So I have to run the Apple Music app on Apple TV 4k and send the audio 
> through a hdmi cable to the audio device. That figures, it is a bit 
> cumbersome to have to do it this way though. 
> There’s hope that Apple will fix this lossless to lossy stream, because 
> Airplay is able to stream lossless after all.
> The audio device isn’t a normal receiver, its a complete music-system. So I 
> definately have to check for hdmi ports on that.
> On another note, i cannot get why Apple only offers Airplay. I prefer the way 
> Chromecast does it, it gets its own signal from the internet.
> 
> Anyways, thanks again.
> 
> Ronald
>  
> 
>  Op 16 jun. 2021, om 17:48 heeft 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> het volgende geschreven:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> The Apple TV has to be the device sending the music to the receiver.  If you 
>> AirPlay from your iPhone to the Apple TV, then it is the iPhone that is in 
>> control, and thus you are essentially using AirPlay to deal with the music, 
>> and AirPlay which then limits the bandwidth.   The Apple TV 4K is perfectly 
>> accessible and supports Siri, thus you can ask music to be played via the 
>> Siri remote for the Apple TV.  As long as the receiver has HDMI input, 
>> you’re good to go.  There’s no need to connect a TV for the video when 
>> playing music.  There are ways of using your iPhone as a remote for the 
>> Apple TV, but it’s not really that necessary with the Siri remote.
>> 
>> I would say that all AV modern receivers would have HDMI inputs and outputs, 
>> but if it’s not an AV receiver that you’re interested in, then you’ll need 
>> to confirm.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>>> On Jun 16, 2021, at 9:30 AM, Ronald van Rhijn >> <mailto:pa...@xs4all.nl>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Tim,
>>> 
>>> Thanks. That was something where I feared for. I honestly don’t know if the 
>>> music system which I am interested in has any hdmi ports, but even if it 
>>> does and I get an Apple TV 4k for this, how do I control Apple Music? From 
>>> the Apple TV or from my iPhone too? The latter is my preferred method.
>>> 
>>> Ronald
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Op 16 jun. 2021, om 17:12 heeft 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>>> het volgende geschreven:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Ronald,
>>>> 
>>>> According to this post:
>>>> 
>>>> https://discussions.apple.com/thread/252848734 
>>>> <https://discussions.apple.com/thread/252848734>
>>>> 
>>>> Both AirPlay and AirPlay 2 can actually handle lossless, but for some 
>>>> reason, the AirPlay signal is converted/compressed thus it will not be 
>>>> lossless by the time it reaches your receiver.
>>>> 
>>>> The best way to get lossless audio as well as Dolby Atmos is to use an 
>>>> Apple TV 4K connected via HDMI to the receiver.  If your system supports 
>>>> it, lossless and Dolby Atmos will be passed through to the recei

Re: Lossless Apple Music

2021-06-16 Thread Ronald van Rhijn
Hi Tim,

Many thanks for all your information, really appreciate it!
So I have to run the Apple Music app on Apple TV 4k and send the audio through 
a hdmi cable to the audio device. That figures, it is a bit cumbersome to have 
to do it this way though. 
There’s hope that Apple will fix this lossless to lossy stream, because Airplay 
is able to stream lossless after all.
The audio device isn’t a normal receiver, its a complete music-system. So I 
definately have to check for hdmi ports on that.
On another note, i cannot get why Apple only offers Airplay. I prefer the way 
Chromecast does it, it gets its own signal from the internet.

Anyways, thanks again.

Ronald
 

 Op 16 jun. 2021, om 17:48 heeft 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
 het volgende geschreven:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> The Apple TV has to be the device sending the music to the receiver.  If you 
> AirPlay from your iPhone to the Apple TV, then it is the iPhone that is in 
> control, and thus you are essentially using AirPlay to deal with the music, 
> and AirPlay which then limits the bandwidth.   The Apple TV 4K is perfectly 
> accessible and supports Siri, thus you can ask music to be played via the 
> Siri remote for the Apple TV.  As long as the receiver has HDMI input, you’re 
> good to go.  There’s no need to connect a TV for the video when playing 
> music.  There are ways of using your iPhone as a remote for the Apple TV, but 
> it’s not really that necessary with the Siri remote.
> 
> I would say that all AV modern receivers would have HDMI inputs and outputs, 
> but if it’s not an AV receiver that you’re interested in, then you’ll need to 
> confirm.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Jun 16, 2021, at 9:30 AM, Ronald van Rhijn > <mailto:pa...@xs4all.nl>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Tim,
>> 
>> Thanks. That was something where I feared for. I honestly don’t know if the 
>> music system which I am interested in has any hdmi ports, but even if it 
>> does and I get an Apple TV 4k for this, how do I control Apple Music? From 
>> the Apple TV or from my iPhone too? The latter is my preferred method.
>> 
>> Ronald
>> 
>> 
>>> Op 16 jun. 2021, om 17:12 heeft 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> het volgende geschreven:
>>> 
>>> Hi Ronald,
>>> 
>>> According to this post:
>>> 
>>> https://discussions.apple.com/thread/252848734 
>>> <https://discussions.apple.com/thread/252848734>
>>> 
>>> Both AirPlay and AirPlay 2 can actually handle lossless, but for some 
>>> reason, the AirPlay signal is converted/compressed thus it will not be 
>>> lossless by the time it reaches your receiver.
>>> 
>>> The best way to get lossless audio as well as Dolby Atmos is to use an 
>>> Apple TV 4K connected via HDMI to the receiver.  If your system supports 
>>> it, lossless and Dolby Atmos will be passed through to the receiver from 
>>> the Apple TV 4K using this setup.
>>> 
>>> Later…
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Jamf Certified Tech
>>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 16, 2021, at 9:02 AM, Ronald van Rhijn >>> <mailto:pa...@xs4all.nl>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> hello,
>>>> 
>>>> You are probably right there Tim, in being the track your are playing 
>>>> should be in lossless if you have this setting enabled. The problem is not 
>>>> every track is available in lossless yet, about 20 million Apple says. And 
>>>> by the end of the year they should all be.
>>>> I want to be absolutely sure my favourite music is or will be in lossless, 
>>>> since I also use Qobuz for this reason (which is not accessible enough and 
>>>> double the price of Apple Music).
>>>> Another issue with Apple Music could be when playing on a high end music 
>>>> system. Apple Music only lets you connect through Airplay (if supported) 
>>>> and I don’t know if Airplay supports lossless audio.
>>>> 
>>>> best,
>>>> Ronald
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Op 15 jun. 2021, om 22:22 heeft 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>> >>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> het volgende geschrev

Re: Lossless Apple Music

2021-06-16 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi,

The Apple TV has to be the device sending the music to the receiver.  If you 
AirPlay from your iPhone to the Apple TV, then it is the iPhone that is in 
control, and thus you are essentially using AirPlay to deal with the music, and 
AirPlay which then limits the bandwidth.   The Apple TV 4K is perfectly 
accessible and supports Siri, thus you can ask music to be played via the Siri 
remote for the Apple TV.  As long as the receiver has HDMI input, you’re good 
to go.  There’s no need to connect a TV for the video when playing music.  
There are ways of using your iPhone as a remote for the Apple TV, but it’s not 
really that necessary with the Siri remote.

I would say that all AV modern receivers would have HDMI inputs and outputs, 
but if it’s not an AV receiver that you’re interested in, then you’ll need to 
confirm.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Professional Learning Specialist
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On Jun 16, 2021, at 9:30 AM, Ronald van Rhijn  wrote:
> 
> Hi Tim,
> 
> Thanks. That was something where I feared for. I honestly don’t know if the 
> music system which I am interested in has any hdmi ports, but even if it does 
> and I get an Apple TV 4k for this, how do I control Apple Music? From the 
> Apple TV or from my iPhone too? The latter is my preferred method.
> 
> Ronald
> 
> 
>> Op 16 jun. 2021, om 17:12 heeft 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> het volgende geschreven:
>> 
>> Hi Ronald,
>> 
>> According to this post:
>> 
>> https://discussions.apple.com/thread/252848734 
>> <https://discussions.apple.com/thread/252848734>
>> 
>> Both AirPlay and AirPlay 2 can actually handle lossless, but for some 
>> reason, the AirPlay signal is converted/compressed thus it will not be 
>> lossless by the time it reaches your receiver.
>> 
>> The best way to get lossless audio as well as Dolby Atmos is to use an Apple 
>> TV 4K connected via HDMI to the receiver.  If your system supports it, 
>> lossless and Dolby Atmos will be passed through to the receiver from the 
>> Apple TV 4K using this setup.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>>> On Jun 16, 2021, at 9:02 AM, Ronald van Rhijn >> <mailto:pa...@xs4all.nl>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> hello,
>>> 
>>> You are probably right there Tim, in being the track your are playing 
>>> should be in lossless if you have this setting enabled. The problem is not 
>>> every track is available in lossless yet, about 20 million Apple says. And 
>>> by the end of the year they should all be.
>>> I want to be absolutely sure my favourite music is or will be in lossless, 
>>> since I also use Qobuz for this reason (which is not accessible enough and 
>>> double the price of Apple Music).
>>> Another issue with Apple Music could be when playing on a high end music 
>>> system. Apple Music only lets you connect through Airplay (if supported) 
>>> and I don’t know if Airplay supports lossless audio.
>>> 
>>> best,
>>> Ronald
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Op 15 jun. 2021, om 22:22 heeft 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>>> het volgende geschreven:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> As far as I can tell, if you’re listening to the Apple Music version of a 
>>>> title, it will be lossless if you’ve set your device to play lossless.  
>>>> There are other considerations as well.  See this article:
>>>> 
>>>> https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT212183 
>>>> <https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT212183>
>>>> 
>>>> Also, for an interesting read on the whole lossless, spacial audio realm, 
>>>> check out the article below:
>>>> 
>>>> https://www.gsmarena.com/understanding_lossless_highresolution_and_spatial_audio-news-49490.php
>>>>  
>>>> <https://www.gsmarena.com/understanding_lossless_highresolution_and_spatial_audio-news-49490.php>
>>>> 
>>>> Later…
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Tim Kilburn
>>>> Jamf Certified Tech
>>>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
>>>> Apple Teacher
>>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>>> Fort 

Re: Lossless Apple Music

2021-06-16 Thread Ronald van Rhijn
Hi Tim,

Thanks. That was something where I feared for. I honestly don’t know if the 
music system which I am interested in has any hdmi ports, but even if it does 
and I get an Apple TV 4k for this, how do I control Apple Music? From the Apple 
TV or from my iPhone too? The latter is my preferred method.

Ronald


> Op 16 jun. 2021, om 17:12 heeft 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  het volgende geschreven:
> 
> Hi Ronald,
> 
> According to this post:
> 
> https://discussions.apple.com/thread/252848734 
> <https://discussions.apple.com/thread/252848734>
> 
> Both AirPlay and AirPlay 2 can actually handle lossless, but for some reason, 
> the AirPlay signal is converted/compressed thus it will not be lossless by 
> the time it reaches your receiver.
> 
> The best way to get lossless audio as well as Dolby Atmos is to use an Apple 
> TV 4K connected via HDMI to the receiver.  If your system supports it, 
> lossless and Dolby Atmos will be passed through to the receiver from the 
> Apple TV 4K using this setup.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Jun 16, 2021, at 9:02 AM, Ronald van Rhijn > <mailto:pa...@xs4all.nl>> wrote:
>> 
>> hello,
>> 
>> You are probably right there Tim, in being the track your are playing should 
>> be in lossless if you have this setting enabled. The problem is not every 
>> track is available in lossless yet, about 20 million Apple says. And by the 
>> end of the year they should all be.
>> I want to be absolutely sure my favourite music is or will be in lossless, 
>> since I also use Qobuz for this reason (which is not accessible enough and 
>> double the price of Apple Music).
>> Another issue with Apple Music could be when playing on a high end music 
>> system. Apple Music only lets you connect through Airplay (if supported) and 
>> I don’t know if Airplay supports lossless audio.
>> 
>> best,
>> Ronald
>> 
>> 
>>> Op 15 jun. 2021, om 22:22 heeft 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> het volgende geschreven:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> As far as I can tell, if you’re listening to the Apple Music version of a 
>>> title, it will be lossless if you’ve set your device to play lossless.  
>>> There are other considerations as well.  See this article:
>>> 
>>> https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT212183 
>>> <https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT212183>
>>> 
>>> Also, for an interesting read on the whole lossless, spacial audio realm, 
>>> check out the article below:
>>> 
>>> https://www.gsmarena.com/understanding_lossless_highresolution_and_spatial_audio-news-49490.php
>>>  
>>> <https://www.gsmarena.com/understanding_lossless_highresolution_and_spatial_audio-news-49490.php>
>>> 
>>> Later…
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Jamf Certified Tech
>>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 15, 2021, at 12:06 PM, Ronald van Rhijn >>> <mailto:pa...@xs4all.nl>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Will do., although lossless is most important to me. 
>>>> 
>>>> thanks,
>>>> Ronald
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Op 15 jun. 2021, om 19:57 heeft 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>> >>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> het volgende geschreven:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ronald,
>>>>> 
>>>>> In the Music app, in Apple Music, select the Browse tab.  If your device 
>>>>> supports it, there are spacial audio playlists there for you to check out.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Later…
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Tim Kilburn
>>>>> Jamf Certified Tech
>>>>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
>>>>> Apple Teacher
>>>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jun 15, 2021, at 11:55 AM, Ronald van Rhijn >>>>> <mailto:pa...@xs4all.nl>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Patrick,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ok you came across

Re: Lossless Apple Music

2021-06-16 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi Ronald,

According to this post:

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/252848734 
<https://discussions.apple.com/thread/252848734>

Both AirPlay and AirPlay 2 can actually handle lossless, but for some reason, 
the AirPlay signal is converted/compressed thus it will not be lossless by the 
time it reaches your receiver.

The best way to get lossless audio as well as Dolby Atmos is to use an Apple TV 
4K connected via HDMI to the receiver.  If your system supports it, lossless 
and Dolby Atmos will be passed through to the receiver from the Apple TV 4K 
using this setup.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Professional Learning Specialist
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On Jun 16, 2021, at 9:02 AM, Ronald van Rhijn  wrote:
> 
> hello,
> 
> You are probably right there Tim, in being the track your are playing should 
> be in lossless if you have this setting enabled. The problem is not every 
> track is available in lossless yet, about 20 million Apple says. And by the 
> end of the year they should all be.
> I want to be absolutely sure my favourite music is or will be in lossless, 
> since I also use Qobuz for this reason (which is not accessible enough and 
> double the price of Apple Music).
> Another issue with Apple Music could be when playing on a high end music 
> system. Apple Music only lets you connect through Airplay (if supported) and 
> I don’t know if Airplay supports lossless audio.
> 
> best,
> Ronald
> 
> 
>> Op 15 jun. 2021, om 22:22 heeft 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> het volgende geschreven:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> As far as I can tell, if you’re listening to the Apple Music version of a 
>> title, it will be lossless if you’ve set your device to play lossless.  
>> There are other considerations as well.  See this article:
>> 
>> https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT212183 
>> <https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT212183>
>> 
>> Also, for an interesting read on the whole lossless, spacial audio realm, 
>> check out the article below:
>> 
>> https://www.gsmarena.com/understanding_lossless_highresolution_and_spatial_audio-news-49490.php
>>  
>> <https://www.gsmarena.com/understanding_lossless_highresolution_and_spatial_audio-news-49490.php>
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>>> On Jun 15, 2021, at 12:06 PM, Ronald van Rhijn >> <mailto:pa...@xs4all.nl>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Will do., although lossless is most important to me. 
>>> 
>>> thanks,
>>> Ronald
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Op 15 jun. 2021, om 19:57 heeft 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>>> het volgende geschreven:
>>>> 
>>>> Ronald,
>>>> 
>>>> In the Music app, in Apple Music, select the Browse tab.  If your device 
>>>> supports it, there are spacial audio playlists there for you to check out.
>>>> 
>>>> Later…
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Tim Kilburn
>>>> Jamf Certified Tech
>>>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
>>>> Apple Teacher
>>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 15, 2021, at 11:55 AM, Ronald van Rhijn >>>> <mailto:pa...@xs4all.nl>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Patrick,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ok you came across some playlists marked with the word spatial audio, 
>>>>> that’s good to know. The word Spatial, was that in the name of the 
>>>>> playlist or an additional tag?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ronald
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Op 15 jun. 2021, om 19:47 heeft Patrick Ford >>>>> <mailto:xplorer1...@gmail.com>> het volgende geschreven:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi, I have noticed that there are a number of playlists designed by 
>>>>>> Apple that are marked with the words spatial audio. These lists cover a 
>>>>>> wide variety of genres. I have also noticed that when you select 
>>>>>> lossless files in your preferences all the music which has not been 
>>>>>> downloaded will play in this format.
>>>>>> The bummer for me is that, unl

Re: Lossless Apple Music

2021-06-16 Thread Ronald van Rhijn
hello,

You are probably right there Tim, in being the track your are playing should be 
in lossless if you have this setting enabled. The problem is not every track is 
available in lossless yet, about 20 million Apple says. And by the end of the 
year they should all be.
I want to be absolutely sure my favourite music is or will be in lossless, 
since I also use Qobuz for this reason (which is not accessible enough and 
double the price of Apple Music).
Another issue with Apple Music could be when playing on a high end music 
system. Apple Music only lets you connect through Airplay (if supported) and I 
don’t know if Airplay supports lossless audio.

best,
Ronald


> Op 15 jun. 2021, om 22:22 heeft 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  het volgende geschreven:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> As far as I can tell, if you’re listening to the Apple Music version of a 
> title, it will be lossless if you’ve set your device to play lossless.  There 
> are other considerations as well.  See this article:
> 
> https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT212183 
> <https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT212183>
> 
> Also, for an interesting read on the whole lossless, spacial audio realm, 
> check out the article below:
> 
> https://www.gsmarena.com/understanding_lossless_highresolution_and_spatial_audio-news-49490.php
>  
> <https://www.gsmarena.com/understanding_lossless_highresolution_and_spatial_audio-news-49490.php>
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Jun 15, 2021, at 12:06 PM, Ronald van Rhijn > <mailto:pa...@xs4all.nl>> wrote:
>> 
>> Will do., although lossless is most important to me. 
>> 
>> thanks,
>> Ronald
>> 
>> 
>>> Op 15 jun. 2021, om 19:57 heeft 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> het volgende geschreven:
>>> 
>>> Ronald,
>>> 
>>> In the Music app, in Apple Music, select the Browse tab.  If your device 
>>> supports it, there are spacial audio playlists there for you to check out.
>>> 
>>> Later…
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Jamf Certified Tech
>>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
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>>> 
>>>> On Jun 15, 2021, at 11:55 AM, Ronald van Rhijn >>> <mailto:pa...@xs4all.nl>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Patrick,
>>>> 
>>>> Ok you came across some playlists marked with the word spatial audio, 
>>>> that’s good to know. The word Spatial, was that in the name of the 
>>>> playlist or an additional tag?
>>>> 
>>>> Ronald
>>>> 
>>>>> Op 15 jun. 2021, om 19:47 heeft Patrick Ford >>>> <mailto:xplorer1...@gmail.com>> het volgende geschreven:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi, I have noticed that there are a number of playlists designed by Apple 
>>>>> that are marked with the words spatial audio. These lists cover a wide 
>>>>> variety of genres. I have also noticed that when you select lossless 
>>>>> files in your preferences all the music which has not been downloaded 
>>>>> will play in this format.
>>>>> The bummer for me is that, unless I am misunderstanding, you cannot 
>>>>> appreciate the spatial audio unless you are wearing a headset and I think 
>>>>> certain TV's. I have a surround sound system but sadly it will not play 
>>>>> the spatial audio.
>>>>> Patrick 
>>>>> Come and See
>>>>> scripturepassage-subscr...@groups.io 
>>>>> <mailto:scripturepassage-subscr...@groups.io>
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jun 15, 2021, at 1:01 PM, Ronald van Rhijn >>>>> <mailto:pa...@xs4all.nl>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Is anyone using the lossless feature of Apple Music on Mac and/or iPhone 
>>>>>> already? 
>>>>>> I am curious if we can read which music is in lossless format with Voice 
>>>>>> Over. And if so, where exactly is this info found. Perhaps its due to  
>>>>>> me still running Catalina, but I never hear any info about lossless 
>>>>>> quality when browsing the Apple Music library. Same goes for Dolby 
>>>>>> Atmos/Sp

Re: Lossless Apple Music

2021-06-15 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi,

As far as I can tell, if you’re listening to the Apple Music version of a 
title, it will be lossless if you’ve set your device to play lossless.  There 
are other considerations as well.  See this article:

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT212183

Also, for an interesting read on the whole lossless, spacial audio realm, check 
out the article below:

https://www.gsmarena.com/understanding_lossless_highresolution_and_spatial_audio-news-49490.php

Later…


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Apple Professional Learning Specialist
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(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
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> On Jun 15, 2021, at 12:06 PM, Ronald van Rhijn  wrote:
> 
> Will do., although lossless is most important to me. 
> 
> thanks,
> Ronald
> 
> 
>> Op 15 jun. 2021, om 19:57 heeft 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> het volgende geschreven:
>> 
>> Ronald,
>> 
>> In the Music app, in Apple Music, select the Browse tab.  If your device 
>> supports it, there are spacial audio playlists there for you to check out.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>>> On Jun 15, 2021, at 11:55 AM, Ronald van Rhijn >> <mailto:pa...@xs4all.nl>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Patrick,
>>> 
>>> Ok you came across some playlists marked with the word spatial audio, 
>>> that’s good to know. The word Spatial, was that in the name of the playlist 
>>> or an additional tag?
>>> 
>>> Ronald
>>> 
>>>> Op 15 jun. 2021, om 19:47 heeft Patrick Ford >>> <mailto:xplorer1...@gmail.com>> het volgende geschreven:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi, I have noticed that there are a number of playlists designed by Apple 
>>>> that are marked with the words spatial audio. These lists cover a wide 
>>>> variety of genres. I have also noticed that when you select lossless files 
>>>> in your preferences all the music which has not been downloaded will play 
>>>> in this format.
>>>> The bummer for me is that, unless I am misunderstanding, you cannot 
>>>> appreciate the spatial audio unless you are wearing a headset and I think 
>>>> certain TV's. I have a surround sound system but sadly it will not play 
>>>> the spatial audio.
>>>> Patrick 
>>>> Come and See
>>>> scripturepassage-subscr...@groups.io 
>>>> <mailto:scripturepassage-subscr...@groups.io>
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 15, 2021, at 1:01 PM, Ronald van Rhijn >>>> <mailto:pa...@xs4all.nl>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Is anyone using the lossless feature of Apple Music on Mac and/or iPhone 
>>>>> already? 
>>>>> I am curious if we can read which music is in lossless format with Voice 
>>>>> Over. And if so, where exactly is this info found. Perhaps its due to  me 
>>>>> still running Catalina, but I never hear any info about lossless quality 
>>>>> when browsing the Apple Music library. Same goes for Dolby Atmos/Spatial 
>>>>> Audio.
>>>>> 
>>>>> thanks,
>>>>> Ronald
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Re: Lossless Apple Music

2021-06-15 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
The spacial audio is for the  AirPods I think.
I can use it with the AirPods max but I haven’t tried that yet..
/A

> 15 juni 2021 kl. 19:55 skrev Brad Snyder :
> 
> you won't see a Lossless option unless you are running macOS Big Sur 11.4 on 
> your Mac, or iOS/iPadOS 14.6 on your iPhone or iPad.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> On Jun 15, 2021, at 12:35, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> On the Mac, while the music is playing, look in the LCD panel.  If the title 
> is Dolby Atmos, it will say so.  Similarly, in the Now Playing screen on your 
> iPhone, it will be announced by VO somewhere on that screen.  With respect to 
> Lossless, make sure that you’ve set your music app to play lossless audio in 
> Music Settings on iPhone, and Music Preferences, in the Playback tab on Mac.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Jun 15, 2021, at 11:01 AM, Ronald van Rhijn > <mailto:pa...@xs4all.nl>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Is anyone using the lossless feature of Apple Music on Mac and/or iPhone 
>> already? 
>> I am curious if we can read which music is in lossless format with Voice 
>> Over. And if so, where exactly is this info found. Perhaps its due to  me 
>> still running Catalina, but I never hear any info about lossless quality 
>> when browsing the Apple Music library. Same goes for Dolby Atmos/Spatial 
>> Audio.
>> 
>> thanks,
>> Ronald
>> 
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Re: Lossless Apple Music

2021-06-15 Thread Patrick Ford
It's in the anme of the playlist, i.e, classical music in spatial audio - jazz 
in spatial audio - I don't know how long they will keep these playlists  but 
they had quite a few  such as classic rock in spatial audio and  so look around 
and I'm sure you will come across  these playlists - I had received an email 
originally with a bunch of the playlists listed so apple could promote the new 
sound -
Come and See
scripturepassage-subscr...@groups.io

> On Jun 15, 2021, at 1:55 PM, Ronald van Rhijn  wrote:
> 
> Hi Patrick,
> 
> Ok you came across some playlists marked with the word spatial audio, that’s 
> good to know. The word Spatial, was that in the name of the playlist or an 
> additional tag?
> 
> Ronald
> 
>> Op 15 jun. 2021, om 19:47 heeft Patrick Ford  het 
>> volgende geschreven:
>> 
>> Hi, I have noticed that there are a number of playlists designed by Apple 
>> that are marked with the words spatial audio. These lists cover a wide 
>> variety of genres. I have also noticed that when you select lossless files 
>> in your preferences all the music which has not been downloaded will play in 
>> this format.
>> The bummer for me is that, unless I am misunderstanding, you cannot 
>> appreciate the spatial audio unless you are wearing a headset and I think 
>> certain TV's. I have a surround sound system but sadly it will not play the 
>> spatial audio.
>> Patrick 
>> Come and See
>> scripturepassage-subscr...@groups.io
>> 
>>> On Jun 15, 2021, at 1:01 PM, Ronald van Rhijn  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Is anyone using the lossless feature of Apple Music on Mac and/or iPhone 
>>> already? 
>>> I am curious if we can read which music is in lossless format with Voice 
>>> Over. And if so, where exactly is this info found. Perhaps its due to  me 
>>> still running Catalina, but I never hear any info about lossless quality 
>>> when browsing the Apple Music library. Same goes for Dolby Atmos/Spatial 
>>> Audio.
>>> 
>>> thanks,
>>> Ronald
>>> 
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Re: Lossless Apple Music

2021-06-15 Thread Ronald van Rhijn
Will do., although lossless is most important to me. 

thanks,
Ronald


> Op 15 jun. 2021, om 19:57 heeft 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  het volgende geschreven:
> 
> Ronald,
> 
> In the Music app, in Apple Music, select the Browse tab.  If your device 
> supports it, there are spacial audio playlists there for you to check out.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Jun 15, 2021, at 11:55 AM, Ronald van Rhijn > <mailto:pa...@xs4all.nl>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Patrick,
>> 
>> Ok you came across some playlists marked with the word spatial audio, that’s 
>> good to know. The word Spatial, was that in the name of the playlist or an 
>> additional tag?
>> 
>> Ronald
>> 
>>> Op 15 jun. 2021, om 19:47 heeft Patrick Ford >> <mailto:xplorer1...@gmail.com>> het volgende geschreven:
>>> 
>>> Hi, I have noticed that there are a number of playlists designed by Apple 
>>> that are marked with the words spatial audio. These lists cover a wide 
>>> variety of genres. I have also noticed that when you select lossless files 
>>> in your preferences all the music which has not been downloaded will play 
>>> in this format.
>>> The bummer for me is that, unless I am misunderstanding, you cannot 
>>> appreciate the spatial audio unless you are wearing a headset and I think 
>>> certain TV's. I have a surround sound system but sadly it will not play the 
>>> spatial audio.
>>> Patrick 
>>> Come and See
>>> scripturepassage-subscr...@groups.io 
>>> <mailto:scripturepassage-subscr...@groups.io>
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 15, 2021, at 1:01 PM, Ronald van Rhijn  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> Is anyone using the lossless feature of Apple Music on Mac and/or iPhone 
>>>> already? 
>>>> I am curious if we can read which music is in lossless format with Voice 
>>>> Over. And if so, where exactly is this info found. Perhaps its due to  me 
>>>> still running Catalina, but I never hear any info about lossless quality 
>>>> when browsing the Apple Music library. Same goes for Dolby Atmos/Spatial 
>>>> Audio.
>>>> 
>>>> thanks,
>>>> Ronald
>>>> 
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Re: Lossless Apple Music

2021-06-15 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Ronald,

In the Music app, in Apple Music, select the Browse tab.  If your device 
supports it, there are spacial audio playlists there for you to check out.

Later…


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(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
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> On Jun 15, 2021, at 11:55 AM, Ronald van Rhijn  wrote:
> 
> Hi Patrick,
> 
> Ok you came across some playlists marked with the word spatial audio, that’s 
> good to know. The word Spatial, was that in the name of the playlist or an 
> additional tag?
> 
> Ronald
> 
>> Op 15 jun. 2021, om 19:47 heeft Patrick Ford  het 
>> volgende geschreven:
>> 
>> Hi, I have noticed that there are a number of playlists designed by Apple 
>> that are marked with the words spatial audio. These lists cover a wide 
>> variety of genres. I have also noticed that when you select lossless files 
>> in your preferences all the music which has not been downloaded will play in 
>> this format.
>> The bummer for me is that, unless I am misunderstanding, you cannot 
>> appreciate the spatial audio unless you are wearing a headset and I think 
>> certain TV's. I have a surround sound system but sadly it will not play the 
>> spatial audio.
>> Patrick 
>> Come and See
>> scripturepassage-subscr...@groups.io
>> 
>>> On Jun 15, 2021, at 1:01 PM, Ronald van Rhijn  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Is anyone using the lossless feature of Apple Music on Mac and/or iPhone 
>>> already? 
>>> I am curious if we can read which music is in lossless format with Voice 
>>> Over. And if so, where exactly is this info found. Perhaps its due to  me 
>>> still running Catalina, but I never hear any info about lossless quality 
>>> when browsing the Apple Music library. Same goes for Dolby Atmos/Spatial 
>>> Audio.
>>> 
>>> thanks,
>>> Ronald
>>> 
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Re: Lossless Apple Music

2021-06-15 Thread Brad Snyder
you won't see a Lossless option unless you are running macOS Big Sur 11.4 on 
your Mac, or iOS/iPadOS 14.6 on your iPhone or iPad.

- Brad -

On Jun 15, 2021, at 12:35, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Hi,

On the Mac, while the music is playing, look in the LCD panel.  If the title is 
Dolby Atmos, it will say so.  Similarly, in the Now Playing screen on your 
iPhone, it will be announced by VO somewhere on that screen.  With respect to 
Lossless, make sure that you’ve set your music app to play lossless audio in 
Music Settings on iPhone, and Music Preferences, in the Playback tab on Mac.

Later…


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Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Professional Learning Specialist
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On Jun 15, 2021, at 11:01 AM, Ronald van Rhijn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Is anyone using the lossless feature of Apple Music on Mac and/or iPhone 
> already? 
> I am curious if we can read which music is in lossless format with Voice 
> Over. And if so, where exactly is this info found. Perhaps its due to  me 
> still running Catalina, but I never hear any info about lossless quality when 
> browsing the Apple Music library. Same goes for Dolby Atmos/Spatial Audio.
> 
> thanks,
> Ronald
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Re: Lossless Apple Music

2021-06-15 Thread Ronald van Rhijn
Hi Patrick,

Ok you came across some playlists marked with the word spatial audio, that’s 
good to know. The word Spatial, was that in the name of the playlist or an 
additional tag?
 
Ronald

> Op 15 jun. 2021, om 19:47 heeft Patrick Ford  het 
> volgende geschreven:
> 
> Hi, I have noticed that there are a number of playlists designed by Apple 
> that are marked with the words spatial audio. These lists cover a wide 
> variety of genres. I have also noticed that when you select lossless files in 
> your preferences all the music which has not been downloaded will play in 
> this format.
> The bummer for me is that, unless I am misunderstanding, you cannot 
> appreciate the spatial audio unless you are wearing a headset and I think 
> certain TV's. I have a surround sound system but sadly it will not play the 
> spatial audio.
> Patrick 
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>> On Jun 15, 2021, at 1:01 PM, Ronald van Rhijn  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Is anyone using the lossless feature of Apple Music on Mac and/or iPhone 
>> already? 
>> I am curious if we can read which music is in lossless format with Voice 
>> Over. And if so, where exactly is this info found. Perhaps its due to  me 
>> still running Catalina, but I never hear any info about lossless quality 
>> when browsing the Apple Music library. Same goes for Dolby Atmos/Spatial 
>> Audio.
>> 
>> thanks,
>> Ronald
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Re: Lossless Apple Music

2021-06-15 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi,

Yes, there certainly are limitations on what will play the Dolby Atmos and/or 
Spacial Audio.

I have the AirPod Pro which will do spacial audio in supported movies and TV 
shows when playing from iPhone.  My surround sound system does support Dolby 
Atmos, but I only have the Apple TV HD at the moment, not the 4K version, so 
Dolby Atmos is not passed to the system.  I’ll look at updating my Apple TV in 
the Fall and then we’ll see how things sound :).

Later…


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(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
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> On Jun 15, 2021, at 11:47 AM, Patrick Ford  wrote:
> 
> Hi, I have noticed that there are a number of playlists designed by Apple 
> that are marked with the words spatial audio. These lists cover a wide 
> variety of genres. I have also noticed that when you select lossless files in 
> your preferences all the music which has not been downloaded will play in 
> this format.
> The bummer for me is that, unless I am misunderstanding, you cannot 
> appreciate the spatial audio unless you are wearing a headset and I think 
> certain TV's. I have a surround sound system but sadly it will not play the 
> spatial audio.
> Patrick 
> Come and See
> scripturepassage-subscr...@groups.io
> 
>> On Jun 15, 2021, at 1:01 PM, Ronald van Rhijn  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Is anyone using the lossless feature of Apple Music on Mac and/or iPhone 
>> already? 
>> I am curious if we can read which music is in lossless format with Voice 
>> Over. And if so, where exactly is this info found. Perhaps its due to  me 
>> still running Catalina, but I never hear any info about lossless quality 
>> when browsing the Apple Music library. Same goes for Dolby Atmos/Spatial 
>> Audio.
>> 
>> thanks,
>> Ronald
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Re: Lossless Apple Music

2021-06-15 Thread Ronald van Rhijn
Hi Tim,

Thanks for that. Isn't it noticeable when searching for music on Apple Music? I 
mean not my own library, but looking for new music to add to my library. I 
think I read somewhere you should be able to find it when searching. Not sure 
though.
I cannot set the lossless format, cause it isn’t supported in Catalina. 
Therefor I probably cannot see it in the lcd either.

thanks,
Ronald
 

> Op 15 jun. 2021, om 19:34 heeft 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi,
> 
> On the Mac, while the music is playing, look in the LCD panel.  If the title 
> is Dolby Atmos, it will say so.  Similarly, in the Now Playing screen on your 
> iPhone, it will be announced by VO somewhere on that screen.  With respect to 
> Lossless, make sure that you’ve set your music app to play lossless audio in 
> Music Settings on iPhone, and Music Preferences, in the Playback tab on Mac.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
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> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
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> 
>> On Jun 15, 2021, at 11:01 AM, Ronald van Rhijn > <mailto:pa...@xs4all.nl>> wrote:
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>> Hi,
>> 
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>> already? 
>> I am curious if we can read which music is in lossless format with Voice 
>> Over. And if so, where exactly is this info found. Perhaps its due to  me 
>> still running Catalina, but I never hear any info about lossless quality 
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>> Audio.
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Re: Lossless Apple Music

2021-06-15 Thread Patrick Ford
Hi, I have noticed that there are a number of playlists designed by Apple that 
are marked with the words spatial audio. These lists cover a wide variety of 
genres. I have also noticed that when you select lossless files in your 
preferences all the music which has not been downloaded will play in this 
format.
The bummer for me is that, unless I am misunderstanding, you cannot appreciate 
the spatial audio unless you are wearing a headset and I think certain TV's. I 
have a surround sound system but sadly it will not play the spatial audio.
Patrick 
Come and See
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> On Jun 15, 2021, at 1:01 PM, Ronald van Rhijn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Is anyone using the lossless feature of Apple Music on Mac and/or iPhone 
> already? 
> I am curious if we can read which music is in lossless format with Voice 
> Over. And if so, where exactly is this info found. Perhaps its due to  me 
> still running Catalina, but I never hear any info about lossless quality when 
> browsing the Apple Music library. Same goes for Dolby Atmos/Spatial Audio.
> 
> thanks,
> Ronald
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Re: Lossless Apple Music

2021-06-15 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi,

On the Mac, while the music is playing, look in the LCD panel.  If the title is 
Dolby Atmos, it will say so.  Similarly, in the Now Playing screen on your 
iPhone, it will be announced by VO somewhere on that screen.  With respect to 
Lossless, make sure that you’ve set your music app to play lossless audio in 
Music Settings on iPhone, and Music Preferences, in the Playback tab on Mac.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
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(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On Jun 15, 2021, at 11:01 AM, Ronald van Rhijn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Is anyone using the lossless feature of Apple Music on Mac and/or iPhone 
> already? 
> I am curious if we can read which music is in lossless format with Voice 
> Over. And if so, where exactly is this info found. Perhaps its due to  me 
> still running Catalina, but I never hear any info about lossless quality when 
> browsing the Apple Music library. Same goes for Dolby Atmos/Spatial Audio.
> 
> thanks,
> Ronald
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Lossless Apple Music

2021-06-15 Thread Ronald van Rhijn
Hi,

Is anyone using the lossless feature of Apple Music on Mac and/or iPhone 
already? 
I am curious if we can read which music is in lossless format with Voice Over. 
And if so, where exactly is this info found. Perhaps its due to  me still 
running Catalina, but I never hear any info about lossless quality when 
browsing the Apple Music library. Same goes for Dolby Atmos/Spatial Audio.

thanks,
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Re: OT Sonos, google assistant and apple music

2021-06-02 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Hi Ian,

Is there any particular reason you want to use Google Assistant? I have Sonos 
speakers throughout the house, and  use Siri to play my Apple Music library. It 
can sometimes hiccup, but most of the time it works pretty well.
Cheers,
Donna

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> Its possible this isn’t supported by Sonos and Google. Third party speakers 
> work differently. I know Alexa and Apple Music work but Sonos is fighting 
> with Google because Google stole some patons.
> 
>> On Jun 2, 2021, at 8:32 AM, Ian Harrison  wrote:
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>> Hi everyone,
>> 
>> I can’t get the google assistant on my Sonos player to connect to my apple 
>> music library, yet it will do this from my little google nest speaker. Any 
>> ideas?
>> 
>> Thanks in advance
>> Ian
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Re: OT Sonos, google assistant and apple music

2021-06-02 Thread joseph hodge
Its possible this isn’t supported by Sonos and Google. Third party speakers 
work differently. I know Alexa and Apple Music work but Sonos is fighting with 
Google because Google stole some patons.

> On Jun 2, 2021, at 8:32 AM, Ian Harrison  wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> I can’t get the google assistant on my Sonos player to connect to my apple 
> music library, yet it will do this from my little google nest speaker. Any 
> ideas?
> 
> Thanks in advance
> Ian
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OT Sonos, google assistant and apple music

2021-06-02 Thread Ian Harrison
Hi everyone,

I can’t get the google assistant on my Sonos player to connect to my apple 
music library, yet it will do this from my little google nest speaker. Any 
ideas?

Thanks in advance
Ian

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Re: A detailed podcast on how to use the apple music on mac please?

2021-03-01 Thread Ramy Moustafa Saber
Thanks so much For ur Reply
Frankly, I tried Spotify on mac, and it is more accessible and easy to use ,
Really, i love it more than APple music.


> On Feb 27, 2021, at 11:54 PM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
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> I’m not sure if there is one, but I certainly could create a tutorial. Some 
> quick tips. For searching, you need to find the Treeview and interact. VO 
> Left to search and VO space to start typing. VO is not good about reading 
> bac, so make sure you know what you are typing. You then hit enter and look 
> for Apple Music.
> Music on the Mac does take getting used too.
> 
>> On Feb 26, 2021, at 18:06, Ramy Moustafa Saber  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I activated my apple music 3 month  for free, and i love the app on Iphone 
>> so much, easy, and very accessible.
>> but what about mac? i willl pay money to listen to music on my big speakers, 
>> so, my experience wiht apple music on mac is not ok, i can not understand 
>> how to get songs, how to arrange my library etc,i found very strange songs 
>> which i did not add to my library, also, can not search for a song, many 
>> many things.
>> is there a detailed podcast that explain the app? and are there any 
>> accessibility issues inside the app?
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Re: A detailed podcast on how to use the apple music on mac please?

2021-02-27 Thread Herbie Allen
I’m not sure if there is one, but I certainly could create a tutorial. Some 
quick tips. For searching, you need to find the Treeview and interact. VO Left 
to search and VO space to start typing. VO is not good about reading bac, so 
make sure you know what you are typing. You then hit enter and look for Apple 
Music.
Music on the Mac does take getting used too.

> On Feb 26, 2021, at 18:06, Ramy Moustafa Saber  
> wrote:
> 
> I activated my apple music 3 month  for free, and i love the app on Iphone so 
> much, easy, and very accessible.
> but what about mac? i willl pay money to listen to music on my big speakers, 
> so, my experience wiht apple music on mac is not ok, i can not understand how 
> to get songs, how to arrange my library etc,i found very strange songs which 
> i did not add to my library, also, can not search for a song, many many 
> things.
> is there a detailed podcast that explain the app? and are there any 
> accessibility issues inside the app?
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A detailed podcast on how to use the apple music on mac please?

2021-02-26 Thread Ramy Moustafa Saber
I activated my apple music 3 month  for free, and i love the app on Iphone so 
much, easy, and very accessible.
but what about mac? i willl pay money to listen to music on my big speakers, 
so, my experience wiht apple music on mac is not ok, i can not understand how 
to get songs, how to arrange my library etc,i found very strange songs which i 
did not add to my library, also, can not search for a song, many many things.
is there a detailed podcast that explain the app? and are there any 
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Re: Apple Music and iTunes match subscriptions I currently have iTunes match and M now on a three months trial subscription to Apple Music. I kind of like Apple Music. What will I lose if I ditch the

2020-06-23 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi,

Supposedly, it should not matter as they both use the iCloud Music Library.  
But, I ended up keeping both.  Apple Music kept substituting live versions, or 
alternative, versions of many of my titles that were ripped from CD’s.  The 
version that I am used to hearing, is the version that I prefer to listen to.  
There are a few half-workarounds that you can do such as search through the 
Apple Music catalog for your specific version of the song, but that is not 
always successful.  There were even a few cases where songs were not available 
in Apple Music in my country, but iTunes Match gave me the iTunes Plus version 
just fine.  My understanding is that, in most cases, if you have both services, 
iTunes Match content takes priority.  I’ve kept a separate backup of my matched 
content just in case anything else happens too.  Apple Music likes to replace 
your personal copy with the Apple Music high quality version, so if you ever 
stopped your Apple Music subscription, you would then lose access to all those 
songs.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
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(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jun 23, 2020, at 8:45 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:



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Apple Music and iTunes match subscriptions I currently have iTunes match and M now on a three months trial subscription to Apple Music. I kind of like Apple Music. What will I lose if I ditch the iTun

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Re: apple music, sharing playlists publicly

2020-03-13 Thread Patrick Ford
ok thanks.

> On Mar 12, 2020, at 8:33 PM, Maria Reyes  wrote:
> 
> If you're in the playlist already you can just hit share and share it that 
> way.
> 
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>> On Mar 12, 2020, at 7:17 PM, Patrick Ford  wrote:
>> 
>> ok great thank you.
>> 
>>> On Mar 12, 2020, at 7:15 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Sort of.  You can also just select "Copy Link" then post it via Twitter, 
>>> FaceBook, InstaGram etc, if you don't wish to use Mail or Messages.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Jamf Certified Tech
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On Mar 12, 2020, at 15:49, Patrick Ford >> <mailto:xplorer1...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ok great  the last part of your instructions I did not know about; so, I 
>>> can only share if I send someone a text or message to listen?Thanks.
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 12, 2020, at 5:44 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> If you have the playlist already created, then do the following.  We'll 
>>>> call your playlist "Patrick's Favourites" for fun.
>>>> 
>>>> 1.  In the Music app, select Patrick's Favourites from the sidebar.
>>>> 2.  Interact with the area named "Patrick's Favourites Header Group".
>>>> 3.  Check the box that reads "Publish on profile and in search".
>>>> 4.  Navigate to the More button and VO-space on it.
>>>> 5.  Select Share from this menu then navigate right and down to either 
>>>> Mail or Message.
>>>> 
>>>> The appropriate app will open and you should be able to send the playlist 
>>>> to your friend.  Note, your friend must be an Apple Music subscriber in 
>>>> order to receive/use the shared playlist.
>>>> 
>>>> HTH.
>>>> 
>>>> Later...
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Tim Kilburn
>>>> Jamf Certified Tech
>>>> Apple Teacher
>>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>> 
>>>> On Mar 12, 2020, at 15:19, Patrick Ford >>> <mailto:xplorer1...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>Hi,
>>>> As far as I can tell, sharing playlists is done this way: go into apple 
>>>> music under the For You section, then my account, then a search field to 
>>>> add a friend’s username.
>>>> But this does not seem to work for me.
>>>> And now, I am only getting the opportunity  to sign into face book. This I 
>>>> do not want to do.
>>>> Does anyone know how to share playlists publicly? 
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> Patrick 
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Re: apple music, sharing playlists publicly

2020-03-12 Thread Maria Reyes
If you're in the playlist already you can just hit share and share it that way.

Interested in a group where we talk everything Apple products? Join the VIP 
Apple Users group on WhatsApp! Just email me at maria.reyes1...@gmail.com with 
your WhatsApp info and I will add you.

> On Mar 12, 2020, at 7:17 PM, Patrick Ford  wrote:
> 
> ok great thank you.
> 
>> On Mar 12, 2020, at 7:15 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Sort of.  You can also just select "Copy Link" then post it via Twitter, 
>> FaceBook, InstaGram etc, if you don't wish to use Mail or Messages.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Mar 12, 2020, at 15:49, Patrick Ford  wrote:
>> 
>> ok great  the last part of your instructions I did not know about; so, I can 
>> only share if I send someone a text or message to listen?Thanks.
>> 
>>> On Mar 12, 2020, at 5:44 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> If you have the playlist already created, then do the following.  We'll 
>>> call your playlist "Patrick's Favourites" for fun.
>>> 
>>> 1.  In the Music app, select Patrick's Favourites from the sidebar.
>>> 2.  Interact with the area named "Patrick's Favourites Header Group".
>>> 3.  Check the box that reads "Publish on profile and in search".
>>> 4.  Navigate to the More button and VO-space on it.
>>> 5.  Select Share from this menu then navigate right and down to either Mail 
>>> or Message.
>>> 
>>> The appropriate app will open and you should be able to send the playlist 
>>> to your friend.  Note, your friend must be an Apple Music subscriber in 
>>> order to receive/use the shared playlist.
>>> 
>>> HTH.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Jamf Certified Tech
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On Mar 12, 2020, at 15:19, Patrick Ford  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> As far as I can tell, sharing playlists is done this way: go into apple 
>>> music under the For You section, then my account, then a search field to 
>>> add a friend’s username.
>>> But this does not seem to work for me.
>>> And now, I am only getting the opportunity  to sign into face book. This I 
>>> do not want to do.
>>> Does anyone know how to share playlists publicly? 
>>> Thanks.
>>> Patrick 
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Re: apple music, sharing playlists publicly

2020-03-12 Thread Patrick Ford
ok great thank you.

> On Mar 12, 2020, at 7:15 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Sort of.  You can also just select "Copy Link" then post it via Twitter, 
> FaceBook, InstaGram etc, if you don't wish to use Mail or Messages.
> 
> Later...
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Mar 12, 2020, at 15:49, Patrick Ford  <mailto:xplorer1...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> ok great  the last part of your instructions I did not know about; so, I can 
> only share if I send someone a text or message to listen?Thanks.
> 
>> On Mar 12, 2020, at 5:44 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> If you have the playlist already created, then do the following.  We'll call 
>> your playlist "Patrick's Favourites" for fun.
>> 
>> 1.  In the Music app, select Patrick's Favourites from the sidebar.
>> 2.  Interact with the area named "Patrick's Favourites Header Group".
>> 3.  Check the box that reads "Publish on profile and in search".
>> 4.  Navigate to the More button and VO-space on it.
>> 5.  Select Share from this menu then navigate right and down to either Mail 
>> or Message.
>> 
>> The appropriate app will open and you should be able to send the playlist to 
>> your friend.  Note, your friend must be an Apple Music subscriber in order 
>> to receive/use the shared playlist.
>> 
>> HTH.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Mar 12, 2020, at 15:19, Patrick Ford > <mailto:xplorer1...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>  Hi,
>> As far as I can tell, sharing playlists is done this way: go into apple 
>> music under the For You section, then my account, then a search field to add 
>> a friend’s username.
>> But this does not seem to work for me.
>> And now, I am only getting the opportunity  to sign into face book. This I 
>> do not want to do.
>> Does anyone know how to share playlists publicly? 
>> Thanks.
>> Patrick 
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Re: apple music, sharing playlists publicly

2020-03-12 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi,

Sort of.  You can also just select "Copy Link" then post it via Twitter, 
FaceBook, InstaGram etc, if you don't wish to use Mail or Messages.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Mar 12, 2020, at 15:49, Patrick Ford  wrote:

ok great  the last part of your instructions I did not know about; so, I can 
only share if I send someone a text or message to listen?Thanks.

> On Mar 12, 2020, at 5:44 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> If you have the playlist already created, then do the following.  We'll call 
> your playlist "Patrick's Favourites" for fun.
> 
> 1.  In the Music app, select Patrick's Favourites from the sidebar.
> 2.  Interact with the area named "Patrick's Favourites Header Group".
> 3.  Check the box that reads "Publish on profile and in search".
> 4.  Navigate to the More button and VO-space on it.
> 5.  Select Share from this menu then navigate right and down to either Mail 
> or Message.
> 
> The appropriate app will open and you should be able to send the playlist to 
> your friend.  Note, your friend must be an Apple Music subscriber in order to 
> receive/use the shared playlist.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> Later...
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Mar 12, 2020, at 15:19, Patrick Ford  <mailto:xplorer1...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>   Hi,
> As far as I can tell, sharing playlists is done this way: go into apple music 
> under the For You section, then my account, then a search field to add a 
> friend’s username.
> But this does not seem to work for me.
> And now, I am only getting the opportunity  to sign into face book. This I do 
> not want to do.
> Does anyone know how to share playlists publicly? 
> Thanks.
> Patrick 
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Re: apple music, sharing playlists publicly

2020-03-12 Thread Patrick Ford
ok great  the last part of your instructions I did not know about; so, I can 
only share if I send someone a text or message to listen?Thanks.

> On Mar 12, 2020, at 5:44 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> If you have the playlist already created, then do the following.  We'll call 
> your playlist "Patrick's Favourites" for fun.
> 
> 1.  In the Music app, select Patrick's Favourites from the sidebar.
> 2.  Interact with the area named "Patrick's Favourites Header Group".
> 3.  Check the box that reads "Publish on profile and in search".
> 4.  Navigate to the More button and VO-space on it.
> 5.  Select Share from this menu then navigate right and down to either Mail 
> or Message.
> 
> The appropriate app will open and you should be able to send the playlist to 
> your friend.  Note, your friend must be an Apple Music subscriber in order to 
> receive/use the shared playlist.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> Later...
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Mar 12, 2020, at 15:19, Patrick Ford  <mailto:xplorer1...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>   Hi,
> As far as I can tell, sharing playlists is done this way: go into apple music 
> under the For You section, then my account, then a search field to add a 
> friend’s username.
> But this does not seem to work for me.
> And now, I am only getting the opportunity  to sign into face book. This I do 
> not want to do.
> Does anyone know how to share playlists publicly? 
> Thanks.
> Patrick 
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Re: apple music, sharing playlists publicly

2020-03-12 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi,

If you have the playlist already created, then do the following.  We'll call 
your playlist "Patrick's Favourites" for fun.

1.  In the Music app, select Patrick's Favourites from the sidebar.
2.  Interact with the area named "Patrick's Favourites Header Group".
3.  Check the box that reads "Publish on profile and in search".
4.  Navigate to the More button and VO-space on it.
5.  Select Share from this menu then navigate right and down to either Mail or 
Message.

The appropriate app will open and you should be able to send the playlist to 
your friend.  Note, your friend must be an Apple Music subscriber in order to 
receive/use the shared playlist.

HTH.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Mar 12, 2020, at 15:19, Patrick Ford  wrote:

Hi,
As far as I can tell, sharing playlists is done this way: go into apple music 
under the For You section, then my account, then a search field to add a 
friend’s username.
But this does not seem to work for me.
And now, I am only getting the opportunity  to sign into face book. This I do 
not want to do.
Does anyone know how to share playlists publicly? 
Thanks.
Patrick 

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apple music, sharing playlists publicly

2020-03-12 Thread Patrick Ford
Hi,
As far as I can tell, sharing playlists is done this way: go into apple music 
under the For You section, then my account, then a search field to add a 
friend’s username.
But this does not seem to work for me.
And now, I am only getting the opportunity  to sign into face book. This I do 
not want to do.
Does anyone know how to share playlists publicly? 
Thanks.
Patrick 

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Re: How to use the adjustable index in the broadcast radio section of Apple Music on iOS 13

2019-10-03 Thread Mary Otten
e sources, that might give you an idea of 
>> how to ask for the stations.  It is a little particular..they are quite 
>> similar to how you would ask Alexa if you have an Echo device.  You also can 
>> add the source if you want it from a particular service, as some stations 
>> are on both .. hope this helps ..
>> 
>> On Oct 1, 2019, at 7:30 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> It possibly being locations specific could be why people in countries other 
>> than the US aren’t seeing it. But it certainly isn’t location specific to my 
>> little area here. None of the stations I saw were in Oregon, much less in 
>> Eugene Oregon. There was even a BBC one. Just one. I think it might’ve been 
>> world service, can’t remember.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Oct 1, 2019, at 5:25 PM, Petrus Tuerlings  wrote:
>> 
>> I’m wondering if it is location specific?
>> 
>> On 2/10/2019, at 13:00, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Mary,
>> 
>> I'm not subscribed.  But your right, it makes no sense that you should have 
>> to be.  I just looked on the Apple support site, and they don't say that you 
>> have to be subscribed to listen to local radio, only that you have to be 
>> subscribed in order to create your own stations.  Weird.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>> On Oct 1, 2019, at 6:56 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Donna,
>> Well, did you say that you were or were not subscribe to Apple Music? If you 
>> aren’t, I guess that’s why you can’t see the broadcast radio stuff, but it 
>> sure doesn’t make sense, since those are not part of Apple Music at all. 
>> They’re supposed to be connected with Siri if anything. It’s that new deal 
>> they have with I heart in tune in and radio.com. So I don’t get it.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Oct 1, 2019, at 4:50 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Mary,
>> 
>> I just tried what you described and still no.  There is no heading in my 
>> music app that says Broadcast radio.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 1, 2019, at 2:00 PM, John JD Denning  wrote:
>> 
>> Well, I looked again and found it. It is not at the bottom of the screen. It 
>> is right above the normal Apple Music what they call radio basically 
>> playlists. So it’s above that not below it. I’ll go play with it now.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Oct 1, 2019, at 14:26, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Mary,
>> 
>> Where did you find Broadcast radio?  I just tried to look for it, and I'm 
>> not seeing it.  Running 13.2.
>> Best,
>> Donna
>> 
>> On Oct 1, 2019, at 11:33 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>> Mary,
>> 
>> I haven't tried this feature yet, but the way this works in the rest of the 
>> music app is that you double tap, then slide your finger on the screen till 
>> you hear VO speak the letter that you want.  So, for example, if you're 
>> searching for the artist Bob Marley, you would slide till you hear the 
>> letter B.  then you would see all artists whose name starts with that 
>> letter.  Does it not work the same way in the radio section?
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>> On Oct 1, 2019, at 11:26 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> If you have updated to iOS 13, you can go into the Music app, and you will 
>> find that there is a radio tab. New in this tab is a section for broadcast 
>> radio. Right after the heading that says broadcast radio, which is the last 
>> heading in the whole tab, there is a “See all“ button. If you double tap 
>> that, voiceover announces section index, adjustable. I cannot figure out 
>> anyway to adjust this supposed index. And all you get in terms of radio 
>> stations is a very few. There are 100,000 supposedly. So it’s pretty clear 
>> that you need to be able to move through this index. Does anybody know how 
>> to accomplish that?
>> Mary
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: How to use the adjustable index in the broadcast radio section of Apple Music on iOS 13

2019-10-03 Thread Jonathan C. Cohn
s no sense that you should have 
> to be.  I just looked on the Apple support site, and they don't say that you 
> have to be subscribed to listen to local radio, only that you have to be 
> subscribed in order to create your own stations.  Weird.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> On Oct 1, 2019, at 6:56 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Hi Donna,
> Well, did you say that you were or were not subscribe to Apple Music? If you 
> aren’t, I guess that’s why you can’t see the broadcast radio stuff, but it 
> sure doesn’t make sense, since those are not part of Apple Music at all. 
> They’re supposed to be connected with Siri if anything. It’s that new deal 
> they have with I heart in tune in and radio.com. So I don’t get it.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Oct 1, 2019, at 4:50 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary,
> 
> I just tried what you described and still no.  There is no heading in my 
> music app that says Broadcast radio.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> 
> On Oct 1, 2019, at 2:00 PM, John JD Denning  wrote:
> 
> Well, I looked again and found it. It is not at the bottom of the screen. It 
> is right above the normal Apple Music what they call radio basically 
> playlists. So it’s above that not below it. I’ll go play with it now.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Oct 1, 2019, at 14:26, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Mary,
> 
> Where did you find Broadcast radio?  I just tried to look for it, and I'm not 
> seeing it.  Running 13.2.
> Best,
> Donna
> 
> On Oct 1, 2019, at 11:33 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Mary,
> 
> I haven't tried this feature yet, but the way this works in the rest of the 
> music app is that you double tap, then slide your finger on the screen till 
> you hear VO speak the letter that you want.  So, for example, if you're 
> searching for the artist Bob Marley, you would slide till you hear the letter 
> B.  then you would see all artists whose name starts with that letter.  Does 
> it not work the same way in the radio section?
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> On Oct 1, 2019, at 11:26 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> If you have updated to iOS 13, you can go into the Music app, and you will 
> find that there is a radio tab. New in this tab is a section for broadcast 
> radio. Right after the heading that says broadcast radio, which is the last 
> heading in the whole tab, there is a “See all“ button. If you double tap 
> that, voiceover announces section index, adjustable. I cannot figure out 
> anyway to adjust this supposed index. And all you get in terms of radio 
> stations is a very few. There are 100,000 supposedly. So it’s pretty clear 
> that you need to be able to move through this index. Does anybody know how to 
> accomplish that?
> Mary
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: How to use the adjustable index in the broadcast radio section of Apple Music on iOS 13

2019-10-02 Thread Mary Otten
in Eugene Oregon. There was even a BBC one. Just one. 
>>>>>> I think it might’ve been world service, can’t remember.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Oct 1, 2019, at 5:25 PM, Petrus Tuerlings  
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I’m wondering if it is location specific?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 2/10/2019, at 13:00, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi Mary,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I'm not subscribed.  But your right, it makes no sense that you should 
>>>>>>>> have to be.  I just looked on the Apple support site, and they don't 
>>>>>>>> say that you have to be subscribed to listen to local radio, only that 
>>>>>>>> you have to be subscribed in order to create your own stations.  Weird.
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Donna
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Oct 1, 2019, at 6:56 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi Donna,
>>>>>>>>> Well, did you say that you were or were not subscribe to Apple Music? 
>>>>>>>>> If you aren’t, I guess that’s why you can’t see the broadcast radio 
>>>>>>>>> stuff, but it sure doesn’t make sense, since those are not part of 
>>>>>>>>> Apple Music at all. They’re supposed to be connected with Siri if 
>>>>>>>>> anything. It’s that new deal they have with I heart in tune in and 
>>>>>>>>> radio.com. So I don’t get it.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 1, 2019, at 4:50 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Mary,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I just tried what you described and still no.  There is no heading 
>>>>>>>>>> in my music app that says Broadcast radio.
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>> Donna
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 1, 2019, at 2:00 PM, John JD Denning 
>>>>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Well, I looked again and found it. It is not at the bottom of the 
>>>>>>>>>>> screen. It is right above the normal Apple Music what they call 
>>>>>>>>>>> radio basically playlists. So it’s above that not below it. I’ll go 
>>>>>>>>>>> play with it now.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 1, 2019, at 14:26, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mary,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Where did you find Broadcast radio?  I just tried to look for it, 
>>>>>>>>>>>> and I'm not seeing it.  Running 13.2.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Donna
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 1, 2019, at 11:33 AM, Donna Goodin  
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mary,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I haven't tried this feature yet, but the way this works in the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> rest of the music app is that you double tap, then slide your 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> finger on the screen till you hear VO speak the letter that you 
>>>>

Re: How to use the adjustable index in the broadcast radio section of Apple Music on iOS 13

2019-10-02 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
To my knowledge, nothing has changed.  I set the Play last shortcut to the 
station I listen to most, and then just tune into the others the old-fashioned 
way.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Oct 2, 2019, at 10:23 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Hi Donna,
> So far as I am aware, Tune in  just has the one shortcut, which is play last 
> station. So if that’s the only station you want, you’re good. But if you like 
> other stations and would like shortcut, I don’t think you can do that in tune 
> in I looked recently and couldn’t find anything but that one shortcut. Has 
> something changed? Was I looking in the wrong place?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Oct 2, 2019, at 4:16 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Mary,
>> 
>> It seems more finicky with TuneIn.  I have a station from Ann Arbor Michigan 
>> where we used to live, that I access on TuneIn.  The only way I could get it 
>> to play with Siri was to set up a shortcut for the TuneIn app.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>>> On Oct 1, 2019, at 10:08 PM, Mary Otten >> <mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Interesting, but when I want our international stations. There are tons of 
>>> them that I know are on tune in. And when I asked my HomePod, it usually 
>>> doesn’t work. That’s why I was kind of interested in seeing if I could find 
>>> those things in This broadcast radio tab. That way I would knoThis 
>>> broadcast radio tab. That way I would know if they’re actually there for 
>>> Siri, and how they are listed. But I’m just not having any luck. The other 
>>> stuff, stuff in the US, I don’t care. I know the stations I want and 
>>> they’re call letters. Either work or they don’t.
>>>  Interesting, but when I want our international stations. There are tons of 
>>> them that I know are on tune in. And when I asked my HomePod, it usually 
>>> doesn’t work. That’s why I was kind of interested in seeing if I could find 
>>> those things in Siri
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 1, 2019, at 7:53 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> I ran this by folks on the beta list, and received the following helpful 
>>>> message.  It doesn't address the mysterious broadcast tab, but I was able 
>>>> to play a radio station about 500 miles from where I live.  Pretty cool.  
>>>> Hope it's useful to anyone interested in broadcast radio.  Message 
>>>> follows.  
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Donna
>>>> If you know the call letters, you can use Siri and ask her to play ..  for 
>>>> example play KLTY would get you 94.9 from Dallas.  Other places you can 
>>>> ask for something like:  play ESPN New York, and it will play 98.7 WEPN 
>>>> from there ..
>>>> 
>>>> If you have any of the apps for the sources, that might give you an idea 
>>>> of how to ask for the stations.  It is a little particular..they are quite 
>>>> similar to how you would ask Alexa if you have an Echo device.  You also 
>>>> can add the source if you want it from a particular service, as some 
>>>> stations are on both .. hope this helps ..
>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 1, 2019, at 7:30 PM, Mary Otten >>>> <mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> It possibly being locations specific could be why people in countries 
>>>>> other than the US aren’t seeing it. But it certainly isn’t location 
>>>>> specific to my little area here. None of the stations I saw were in 
>>>>> Oregon, much less in Eugene Oregon. There was even a BBC one. Just one. I 
>>>>> think it might’ve been world service, can’t remember.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 1, 2019, at 5:25 PM, Petrus Tuerlings >>>> <mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I’m wondering if it is location specific?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 2/10/2019, at 13:00, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>>>> >>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi Mary,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I'm not subscribed.

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