Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver

2010-09-30 Thread DJ Nezumi
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheree Heppe Sent: Tuesday, 28 September 2010 3:24 a.m. To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver Cheree Heppe here: That sounds like a plan. How does IWorks differ from the Microsoft product

RE: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver

2010-09-28 Thread Dave Taylor
from scratch now! Cheers Dave -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rose Morales Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 4:08 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver I had

RE: Word Service, an excellent addition to any word processing application (was Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver)

2010-09-28 Thread M. Taylor
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rose Morales Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 10:24 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Word Service, an excellent addition to any word processing application (was Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver) Hi all, In the Office 2011 thread, we

RE: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver

2010-09-28 Thread Simon Fogarty
Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheree Heppe Sent: Tuesday, 28 September 2010 3:24 a.m. To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver Cheree Heppe here: That sounds like a plan. How does

Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver

2010-09-27 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
! Cheers Dave -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Arrigo Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 11:03 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver I don't

Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver

2010-09-27 Thread ISAAC OBIE
: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver I too will be switching to I works rather than working with Microsoft Products in the future. Kawal Gucukoglu On 27 Sep 2010, at 12:53 AM, gkearney gkear...@gmail.com wrote: It is interesting to note that the ribbons were accessible, much of the user interface

Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver

2010-09-27 Thread Krister Ekstrom
, September 26, 2010 1:22 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com; macvoiceo...@freelists.org; Mary Beth Janes; Mike Shebanek Subject: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver It is my sad duty to report that after getting a chance to test Microsoft Office 2011 for Mac that it is no more accessible

RE: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver

2010-09-27 Thread Dave Taylor
] On Behalf Of Krister Ekstrom Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 11:18 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver but how good is OpenOffice really? When i tested it i found a couple show stoppers. You couldn't do a say all command, because VO

Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver

2010-09-27 Thread Rose Morales
- Original Message - From: Kawal Gucukoglu kawal_gucuko...@sent.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 4:27 AM Subject: Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver I too will be switching to I works rather than working with Microsoft Products

Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver

2010-09-27 Thread Isaac Obie
! :) :) I am going to save this one! this is a keeper! Isaac - Original Message - From: Rose Morales nothingbutl...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 8:15 AM Subject: Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver The problem with something like Notepad

Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver

2010-09-27 Thread Cheree Heppe
: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver I too will be switching to I works rather than working with Microsoft Products in the future. Kawal Gucukoglu On 27 Sep 2010, at 12:53 AM, gkearney gkear...@gmail.com wrote: It is interesting to note that the ribbons were accessible, much of the user

Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver

2010-09-27 Thread Cheree Heppe
: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver Hi Kawal, Frankly, I don't like programs like MS Word because it's too big for what I want to do. It's huge, clumsy and plain a pain in the posterior. I love notepad! I think Notepad can do all I want including cleaning up a file. Now when I really get

Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver

2010-09-27 Thread Justin Ekis
...@sent.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 4:27 AM Subject: Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver I too will be switching to I works rather than working with Microsoft Products in the future. Kawal Gucukoglu On 27 Sep 2010, at 12:53 AM, gkearney gkear

Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver

2010-09-27 Thread Scott Granados
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com; macvoiceo...@freelists.org; Mary Beth Janes; Mike Shebanek Subject: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver It is my sad duty to report that after getting a chance to test Microsoft Office 2011 for Mac that it is no more accessible in this version than

Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver

2010-09-27 Thread ISAAC OBIE
:51 AM Subject: Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver Hi Kawal, Frankly, I don't like programs like MS Word because it's too big for what I want to do. It's huge, clumsy and plain a pain in the posterior. I love notepad! I think Notepad can do all I want including cleaning up a file. Now when

Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver

2010-09-27 Thread Chris Moore
Message - From: Cheree Heppe che...@dogsc4me.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 10:28 AM Subject: Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver Cheree Heppe here: Notepad isn't enough for me, so I am hoping that the Apple alternative to Office

Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver

2010-09-27 Thread Erik Heil
- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Greg Kearney Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 1:22 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com; macvoiceo...@freelists.org; Mary Beth Janes; Mike Shebanek Subject: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver

Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver

2010-09-27 Thread Scott Howell
Subject: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver It is my sad duty to report that after getting a chance to test Microsoft Office 2011 for Mac that it is no more accessible in this version than in any of the previous versions. As in the past it is impossible to interact with any of the content areas

Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver

2010-09-27 Thread Sarah Alawami
: Kawal Gucukoglu kawal_gucuko...@sent.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 4:27 AM Subject: Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver I too will be switching to I works rather than working with Microsoft Products in the future. Kawal Gucukoglu On 27

Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver

2010-09-27 Thread Sarah Alawami
@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 4:27 AM Subject: Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver I too will be switching to I works rather than working with Microsoft Products in the future. Kawal Gucukoglu On 27 Sep 2010, at 12:53 AM, gkearney gkear...@gmail.com wrote

Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver

2010-09-27 Thread Mike Arrigo
Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 11:03 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver I don't think he said it was a beta. It is very disappointing indeed, really, Microsoft has no excuse for this one, it's not like they were not aware of accessibility

Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver

2010-09-27 Thread Mike Arrigo
: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver but how good is OpenOffice really? When i tested it i found a couple show stoppers. You couldn't do a say all command, because VO or if it is OOO itself presents every paragraph in a document as a separate edit box. Also you couldn't select using vo commands

Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver

2010-09-27 Thread Rose Morales
Subject: Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver The problem with something like Notepad is that notepad can only write text files. This is fine if you're just looking to jot down a note or ten. Hence the name notepad, :). MS Word is designed to let you format your text. Now, one could

Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver

2010-09-27 Thread Sarah Alawami
! :) :) I am going to save this one! this is a keeper! Isaac - Original Message - From: Rose Morales nothingbutl...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 8:15 AM Subject: Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver The problem with something like

Re: Word Service, an excellent addition to any word processing application (was Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver)

2010-09-27 Thread Esther
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 4:27 AM Subject: Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver I too will be switching to I works rather than working with Microsoft Products in the future. Kawal Gucukoglu On 27 Sep 2010, at 12:53 AM, gkearney gkear...@gmail.com

Re: Word Service, an excellent addition to any word processing application (was Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver)

2010-09-27 Thread Rose Morales
@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 4:27 AM Subject: Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver I too will be switching to I works rather than working with Microsoft Products in the future. Kawal Gucukoglu On 27 Sep 2010, at 12:53 AM, gkearney gkear...@gmail.com wrote

RE: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver

2010-09-27 Thread Dave Taylor
, September 28, 2010 12:52 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver Text edit will certainly handle the word processor side of things, and open office should handle the spreadsheet. On Sep 27, 2010, at 5:22 AM, Dave Taylor wrote: All I will need to do

Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver

2010-09-26 Thread Greg Kearney
It is my sad duty to report that after getting a chance to test Microsoft Office 2011 for Mac that it is no more accessible in this version than in any of the previous versions. As in the past it is impossible to interact with any of the content areas of the program. You are not able to review,

RE: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver

2010-09-26 Thread M. Taylor
- -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Greg Kearney Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 1:22 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com; macvoiceo...@freelists.org; Mary Beth Janes; Mike Shebanek Subject: Microsoft Office 2011

Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver

2010-09-26 Thread Scott Howell
- -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Greg Kearney Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 1:22 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com; macvoiceo...@freelists.org; Mary Beth Janes; Mike Shebanek Subject: Microsoft Office 2011

RE: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver

2010-09-26 Thread M. Taylor
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 1:59 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver Mark, I suspect Microsoft is simply not interested in accessibility for the Mac. I have never heard anything

Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver

2010-09-26 Thread Erik Heil
Janes; Mike Shebanek Subject: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver It is my sad duty to report that after getting a chance to test Microsoft Office 2011 for Mac that it is no more accessible in this version than in any of the previous versions. As in the past it is impossible to interact with any

Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver

2010-09-26 Thread Mike Arrigo
Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Greg Kearney Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 1:22 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com; macvoiceo...@freelists.org; Mary Beth Janes; Mike Shebanek Subject: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver

Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver

2010-09-26 Thread Mike Arrigo
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Greg Kearney Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 1:22 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com; macvoiceo...@freelists.org; Mary Beth Janes; Mike Shebanek Subject: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver It is my sad duty to report that after

Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver

2010-09-26 Thread Mike Arrigo
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 1:59 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver Mark, I suspect Microsoft is simply not interested in accessibility for the Mac. I have never

RE: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver

2010-09-26 Thread Dave Taylor
...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Arrigo Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 11:03 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver I don't think he said it was a beta. It is very disappointing indeed, really, Microsoft has no excuse for this one, it's not like they were

Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver

2010-09-26 Thread gkearney
, September 26, 2010 1:22 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com; macvoiceo...@freelists.org; Mary Beth Janes; Mike Shebanek Subject: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver It is my sad duty to report that after getting a chance to test Microsoft Office 2011 for Mac that it is no more accessible

Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver

2010-09-26 Thread Scott Howell
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com; macvoiceo...@freelists.org; Mary Beth Janes; Mike Shebanek Subject: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver It is my sad duty to report that after getting a chance to test Microsoft Office 2011 for Mac that it is no more accessible in this version than in any

Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver

2010-09-26 Thread gkearney
11:03 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver I don't think he said it was a beta. It is very disappointing indeed, really, Microsoft has no excuse for this one, it's not like they were not aware of accessibility and voice over, they just chose

Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver

2010-09-26 Thread Jonathan Cohn
Subject: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver It is my sad duty to report that after getting a chance to test Microsoft Office 2011 for Mac that it is no more accessible in this version than in any of the previous versions. As in the past it is impossible to interact with any