Re: I Want to Buy a HomePod But, ...

2018-02-16 Thread Saqib Hussain 
Hi. The HomePod doesn’t support multiple timers. You cannot pair it to your 
phone either. You can do this with the Amazon Echo. This HomePod has been 
rushed into the market and it’s cost Apple around £250 to assemble and they 
can’t price it less than what it is right now. I’m happy with my Echos as they 
do all the things that the HomePod can’t. I admit Sound is excelent on the 
HomePod but that’s about it. Even Siri is dummer than the Siri you have on your 
phone and neither can compete with Alexa or Google voice assistant offerings. 

> On 16 Feb 2018, at 01:50, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the response. Just to clarify, I meant I want to be able to add 
> calendar events, or move them around. As to timers, I'd want named timers, 
> and to have multiple ones. For instance, I'd want HomePod to tell me the 
> cookies are done after 12 minutes, and that the laundry is done after 25.
> 
> Still, multiple accounts is the big one. I want HomePod to know who's 
> speaking, just as Siri already does on phones and iPads. It should then use 
> that person's account to respond to the request. Better still, use Apple 
> Watch authentication to make sure the person speaking is nearby, similar to 
> automatic login on macOS. After all, I could be on the wifi network, but 
> nowhere near the speaker, and HomePod will consider me present right now. 
> That seems like a poor design choice if one has roommates, ornery siblings, 
> and so on.
> 
> I'm sure HomePod sounds incredible, but as someone who likes music but wants 
> the smarts and audio books more than tunes, I can't get behind it as it is 
> right now.
> 
> --
> Alex Hall
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Feb 14, 2018, at 22:27, David Chittenden > > wrote:
>> 
>> We decided to return our Home Pod for now. We are waiting for it to, 
>> hopefully, interface with our Sonos home theatre setup. That said, Home Pod 
>> definitely sets timers and alarms. It will say what the upcoming 
>> appointments on the calendar are. Unfortunately, this is currently only for 
>> one user.
>> 
>> Apple Music is not necessary. One can either place music in one's iCloud 
>> account, or purchase Apple Music Match and Home Pod will play said music. No 
>> matter how loud the volume is set, the mic is excellent. I never needed to 
>> raise my voice. And, the unit was able to understand me when I was in rooms 
>> near the lounge where we had the speaker.
>> 
>> The rumour is that Home Pod should interface with Sonos systems when AirPlay 
>> II comes out. As Apple will most likely not raise the price of Home Pod, we 
>> decided to wait until it meets our use case before purchasing.
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com 
>> Mobile: +61 488 988 936
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 15 Feb 2018, at 12:33, Alex Hall > > wrote:
>> 
>>> I'm waiting for, at the very least, the software to improve. I want more 
>>> smarts and less audio perfection, so I need Siri to at least handle 
>>> multiple users' accounts and do things like calendars and named timers.
>>> 
>>> As to the audio jack, I very much doubt it will ever happen. This speaker 
>>> is meant to blend into the background, and interact with wireless streaming 
>>> and speech input/output. In my mind, it will never include an audio jack. 
>>> But Apple could do anything, so don't take my word for it. 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Alex Hall
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Feb 14, 2018, at 20:51, M. Taylor > wrote:
 
 Hello Everyone,
 
 I was really considering buying a HOmePod.  However, as I am not subscribed
 to Apple Music nor am I going to subscribe anytime soon, I was hoping that
 the HomePod would have a 3.5mm jack so that I could use it with non-apple
 and/or legacy hardware devices such as my iPod Nanno.  What a bummer that 
 it
 does not have such a port.
 
 Perhaps I'll wait until the next generation model in hopes that they will
 permit legacy-device attachments.  
 
 Thoughts?
 
 Mark
 
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Re: I Want to Buy a HomePod But, ...

2018-02-15 Thread Alex Hall 
Thanks for the response. Just to clarify, I meant I want to be able to add 
calendar events, or move them around. As to timers, I'd want named timers, and 
to have multiple ones. For instance, I'd want HomePod to tell me the cookies 
are done after 12 minutes, and that the laundry is done after 25.

Still, multiple accounts is the big one. I want HomePod to know who's speaking, 
just as Siri already does on phones and iPads. It should then use that person's 
account to respond to the request. Better still, use Apple Watch authentication 
to make sure the person speaking is nearby, similar to automatic login on 
macOS. After all, I could be on the wifi network, but nowhere near the speaker, 
and HomePod will consider me present right now. That seems like a poor design 
choice if one has roommates, ornery siblings, and so on.

I'm sure HomePod sounds incredible, but as someone who likes music but wants 
the smarts and audio books more than tunes, I can't get behind it as it is 
right now.

--
Alex Hall




> On Feb 14, 2018, at 22:27, David Chittenden  wrote:
> 
> We decided to return our Home Pod for now. We are waiting for it to, 
> hopefully, interface with our Sonos home theatre setup. That said, Home Pod 
> definitely sets timers and alarms. It will say what the upcoming appointments 
> on the calendar are. Unfortunately, this is currently only for one user.
> 
> Apple Music is not necessary. One can either place music in one's iCloud 
> account, or purchase Apple Music Match and Home Pod will play said music. No 
> matter how loud the volume is set, the mic is excellent. I never needed to 
> raise my voice. And, the unit was able to understand me when I was in rooms 
> near the lounge where we had the speaker.
> 
> The rumour is that Home Pod should interface with Sonos systems when AirPlay 
> II comes out. As Apple will most likely not raise the price of Home Pod, we 
> decided to wait until it meets our use case before purchasing.
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com 
> Mobile: +61 488 988 936
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 15 Feb 2018, at 12:33, Alex Hall  > wrote:
> 
>> I'm waiting for, at the very least, the software to improve. I want more 
>> smarts and less audio perfection, so I need Siri to at least handle multiple 
>> users' accounts and do things like calendars and named timers.
>> 
>> As to the audio jack, I very much doubt it will ever happen. This speaker is 
>> meant to blend into the background, and interact with wireless streaming and 
>> speech input/output. In my mind, it will never include an audio jack. But 
>> Apple could do anything, so don't take my word for it. 
>> 
>> --
>> Alex Hall
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 14, 2018, at 20:51, M. Taylor >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>> 
>>> I was really considering buying a HOmePod.  However, as I am not subscribed
>>> to Apple Music nor am I going to subscribe anytime soon, I was hoping that
>>> the HomePod would have a 3.5mm jack so that I could use it with non-apple
>>> and/or legacy hardware devices such as my iPod Nanno.  What a bummer that it
>>> does not have such a port.
>>> 
>>> Perhaps I'll wait until the next generation model in hopes that they will
>>> permit legacy-device attachments.  
>>> 
>>> Thoughts?
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
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Re: I Want to Buy a HomePod But, ...

2018-02-15 Thread Scott Davert 
I agree with Tim. My snarky comment aside, I'm afraid this just isn't
going to happen. In the view of many, the headphone jack is a step
backward, not forward. While there are things like Bluetooth
transmitters that you could pair that can be hooked in to something
with a 3.5 MM jack, it requires the purchase of more stuff. Though the
sound quality of the Homepod is great from what I can tell, the
absence of a headphone jack was one of the things that turned me off
to it. Further, as already mentioned, there is no direct support for
other music streaming services which are available through other
devices on the market such as the Echo, Sonos, and Google platforms.
yes, you can certainly Airplay your iPhone using spotify or whatever
other music you have on your iPhone, but you cannot, for example, ask
Siri to play something specific from Spotify and have it be
successful. If you are an Apple Music subscriber and want something
with fantastic sound and do not mind using Airplay, though, the
HomePod certainly seems to fit that bill well. I'm also sure it will
improve when updates are released to include stereo sound and
multi-room support. I also will not be getting one, as it doesn't fit
my use case.

Just my thoughts,
Scott

On 2/15/18, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> As mentioned by others, there's no need to have Apple Music.  You should be
> able to play music from your iPod via AirPlay to the HomePod wirelessly,
> thus, playing your music from the exact playlists and such that reside on
> the iPod itself.  Regarding the inclusion of a 3.5 mm jack, I would bet big
> money that you'll never see such an animal on the HomePod, it just doesn't
> fit the use model that Apple has for the HomePod.
>
> Later...
>
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>
> On Feb 14, 2018, at 18:51, M. Taylor  wrote:
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I was really considering buying a HOmePod.  However, as I am not subscribed
> to Apple Music nor am I going to subscribe anytime soon, I was hoping that
> the HomePod would have a 3.5mm jack so that I could use it with non-apple
> and/or legacy hardware devices such as my iPod Nanno.  What a bummer that
> it
> does not have such a port.
>
> Perhaps I'll wait until the next generation model in hopes that they will
> permit legacy-device attachments.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Mark
>
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Re: I Want to Buy a HomePod But, ...

2018-02-15 Thread Tim Kilburn 
Hi,

As mentioned by others, there's no need to have Apple Music.  You should be 
able to play music from your iPod via AirPlay to the HomePod wirelessly, thus, 
playing your music from the exact playlists and such that reside on the iPod 
itself.  Regarding the inclusion of a 3.5 mm jack, I would bet big money that 
you'll never see such an animal on the HomePod, it just doesn't fit the use 
model that Apple has for the HomePod.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Feb 14, 2018, at 18:51, M. Taylor  wrote:

Hello Everyone,

I was really considering buying a HOmePod.  However, as I am not subscribed
to Apple Music nor am I going to subscribe anytime soon, I was hoping that
the HomePod would have a 3.5mm jack so that I could use it with non-apple
and/or legacy hardware devices such as my iPod Nanno.  What a bummer that it
does not have such a port.

Perhaps I'll wait until the next generation model in hopes that they will
permit legacy-device attachments.  

Thoughts?

Mark

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Re: I Want to Buy a HomePod But, ...

2018-02-14 Thread David Chittenden 
We decided to return our Home Pod for now. We are waiting for it to, hopefully, 
interface with our Sonos home theatre setup. That said, Home Pod definitely 
sets timers and alarms. It will say what the upcoming appointments on the 
calendar are. Unfortunately, this is currently only for one user.

Apple Music is not necessary. One can either place music in one's iCloud 
account, or purchase Apple Music Match and Home Pod will play said music. No 
matter how loud the volume is set, the mic is excellent. I never needed to 
raise my voice. And, the unit was able to understand me when I was in rooms 
near the lounge where we had the speaker.

The rumour is that Home Pod should interface with Sonos systems when AirPlay II 
comes out. As Apple will most likely not raise the price of Home Pod, we 
decided to wait until it meets our use case before purchasing.

Kind regards,

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +61 488 988 936
Sent from my iPhone

> On 15 Feb 2018, at 12:33, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> I'm waiting for, at the very least, the software to improve. I want more 
> smarts and less audio perfection, so I need Siri to at least handle multiple 
> users' accounts and do things like calendars and named timers.
> 
> As to the audio jack, I very much doubt it will ever happen. This speaker is 
> meant to blend into the background, and interact with wireless streaming and 
> speech input/output. In my mind, it will never include an audio jack. But 
> Apple could do anything, so don't take my word for it. 
> 
> --
> Alex Hall
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Feb 14, 2018, at 20:51, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> I was really considering buying a HOmePod.  However, as I am not subscribed
>> to Apple Music nor am I going to subscribe anytime soon, I was hoping that
>> the HomePod would have a 3.5mm jack so that I could use it with non-apple
>> and/or legacy hardware devices such as my iPod Nanno.  What a bummer that it
>> does not have such a port.
>> 
>> Perhaps I'll wait until the next generation model in hopes that they will
>> permit legacy-device attachments.  
>> 
>> Thoughts?
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
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Re: I Want to Buy a HomePod But, ...

2018-02-14 Thread Alex Hall 
I'm waiting for, at the very least, the software to improve. I want more smarts 
and less audio perfection, so I need Siri to at least handle multiple users' 
accounts and do things like calendars and named timers.

As to the audio jack, I very much doubt it will ever happen. This speaker is 
meant to blend into the background, and interact with wireless streaming and 
speech input/output. In my mind, it will never include an audio jack. But Apple 
could do anything, so don't take my word for it. 

--
Alex Hall




> On Feb 14, 2018, at 20:51, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> I was really considering buying a HOmePod.  However, as I am not subscribed
> to Apple Music nor am I going to subscribe anytime soon, I was hoping that
> the HomePod would have a 3.5mm jack so that I could use it with non-apple
> and/or legacy hardware devices such as my iPod Nanno.  What a bummer that it
> does not have such a port.
> 
> Perhaps I'll wait until the next generation model in hopes that they will
> permit legacy-device attachments.  
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> Mark
> 
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I Want to Buy a HomePod But, ...

2018-02-14 Thread M. Taylor 
Hello Everyone,

I was really considering buying a HOmePod.  However, as I am not subscribed
to Apple Music nor am I going to subscribe anytime soon, I was hoping that
the HomePod would have a 3.5mm jack so that I could use it with non-apple
and/or legacy hardware devices such as my iPod Nanno.  What a bummer that it
does not have such a port.

Perhaps I'll wait until the next generation model in hopes that they will
permit legacy-device attachments.  

Thoughts?

Mark

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