subject:"Re\: Article\: Apple on target for October MacBook Release"

Hi, I dont know much about usbc, would you be able to us enormal usb devices 
with an adapter?
Greetings, Anouk,
> On 19 Oct 2016, at 09:14, Sandi Jazmin Kruse  wrote:
> 
> Hi, as a girl who got the Mac book, the one without respiration i can
> say that it is slower, way slower, however it is my main machine right
> as we speak for MS flightsim, which it runs relative fine.
> I am not sure that changing to Usbc is a good thing, but that is just
> me , as a Keytarist, that would make me think twice about getting the
> new mac book pro.
> 
> 
> On 10/18/16, David Chittenden  wrote:
>> There were no 7+ available, so I went with the 7 two days ago. I will
>> probably switch back to the + size iPhone next year. I do love my 7.
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>> Mobile: +61 488 988 936
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 19/10/2016, at 15:24, Scott Granados  wrote:
>>> 
>>> A new iPhone is a most worth while cause.  I love my 7+.  Go with the plus
>>> if you do upgrade.
>>> 
 On Oct 18, 2016, at 6:49 PM, E.T.  wrote:
 
 Interesting developments to be. I know nothing about USB C but I usually
 go with the flow and so expect it probably will be an easy enough change
 to adapt to.
 
 The touch bar I find interesting too. We need someone to beta test
 hardware! Oh right. NDA. So much for that.
 
 My mid 2012 MBP still seems healthy whereas my bank account is not so a
 new Mac is not on my radar. A new iPhone has a better chance.
 
 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 Without H2O there is no life!
 ancient.ali...@icloud.com
 
> On 10/18/2016 10:03 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
> Found this article on redmond pie and it seemed totally on topic to
> discuss.  Includes expectations about the up coming release of the
> laptops including the end of the MacBook air 11, the 12 Inch MacBook
> taking the place of the 11 inch air, the continuation and upgrade of the
> MacBook air 13, and changes to the MacBook Pro..  The article notes the
> source has a hit and miss record with rumors, it does indicate that it
> matches other reports from more reliable sources so it seems worth
> reading.  I’d be interested in comments, I’m not sure I like all the
> proposed changes.
>   The changes include an OLED light bar (I assume in place of function
> keys), no more mag safe adapter, no more USB, and what’s being included
> is USB-C (I do like this) (Thunderbolt 3 (Apple always has to provide a
> little bit different but proprietary port that’s a little faster, just
> because) and the power button has the fingerprint Censor (I like it).
> What do you all think?
> 
> Read more here.
> http://www.redmondpie.com/2016-macbook-pro-still-on-track-for-october-launch-will-feature-usb-c-and-thunderbolt-3/
> 
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Re: Article: Apple on target for October MacBook Release

I dont want to buy an iphone this year but perhaps next year if the upgrade is 
big enough an dprobbably if they upgrade the se. I want a smaller one.
Greetings, Anouk,
> On 19 Oct 2016, at 07:24, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> A new iPhone is a most worth while cause.  I love my 7+.  Go with the plus if 
> you do upgrade.
> 
>> On Oct 18, 2016, at 6:49 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>> 
>>  Interesting developments to be. I know nothing about USB C but I usually go 
>> with the flow and so expect it probably will be an easy enough change to 
>> adapt to.
>> 
>>  The touch bar I find interesting too. We need someone to beta test 
>> hardware! Oh right. NDA. So much for that.
>> 
>>  My mid 2012 MBP still seems healthy whereas my bank account is not so a new 
>> Mac is not on my radar. A new iPhone has a better chance.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> Without H2O there is no life!
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> 
>> On 10/18/2016 10:03 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> Found this article on redmond pie and it seemed totally on topic to 
>>> discuss.  Includes expectations about the up coming release of the laptops 
>>> including the end of the MacBook air 11, the 12 Inch MacBook taking the 
>>> place of the 11 inch air, the continuation and upgrade of the MacBook air 
>>> 13, and changes to the MacBook Pro..  The article notes the source has a 
>>> hit and miss record with rumors, it does indicate that it matches other 
>>> reports from more reliable sources so it seems worth reading.  I’d be 
>>> interested in comments, I’m not sure I like all the proposed changes.
>>> The changes include an OLED light bar (I assume in place of function 
>>> keys), no more mag safe adapter, no more USB, and what’s being included is 
>>> USB-C (I do like this) (Thunderbolt 3 (Apple always has to provide a little 
>>> bit different but proprietary port that’s a little faster, just because) 
>>> and the power button has the fingerprint Censor (I like it).
>>> What do you all think?
>>> 
>>> Read more here.
>>> http://www.redmondpie.com/2016-macbook-pro-still-on-track-for-october-launch-will-feature-usb-c-and-thunderbolt-3/
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Article: Apple on target for October MacBook Release

I would miss the macbook air, i now have a macbook air 11 inch and would buy an 
11inch model again in a few years.
I wodner how that new function bar would work under windows?
Greetings, Anouk,
> On 19 Oct 2016, at 00:49, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   Interesting developments to be. I know nothing about USB C but I usually go 
> with the flow and so expect it probably will be an easy enough change to 
> adapt to.
> 
>   The touch bar I find interesting too. We need someone to beta test 
> hardware! Oh right. NDA. So much for that.
> 
>   My mid 2012 MBP still seems healthy whereas my bank account is not so a new 
> Mac is not on my radar. A new iPhone has a better chance.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>  Without H2O there is no life!
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 10/18/2016 10:03 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> Found this article on redmond pie and it seemed totally on topic to discuss. 
>>  Includes expectations about the up coming release of the laptops including 
>> the end of the MacBook air 11, the 12 Inch MacBook taking the place of the 
>> 11 inch air, the continuation and upgrade of the MacBook air 13, and changes 
>> to the MacBook Pro..  The article notes the source has a hit and miss record 
>> with rumors, it does indicate that it matches other reports from more 
>> reliable sources so it seems worth reading.  I’d be interested in comments, 
>> I’m not sure I like all the proposed changes.
>>  The changes include an OLED light bar (I assume in place of function 
>> keys), no more mag safe adapter, no more USB, and what’s being included is 
>> USB-C (I do like this) (Thunderbolt 3 (Apple always has to provide a little 
>> bit different but proprietary port that’s a little faster, just because) and 
>> the power button has the fingerprint Censor (I like it).
>> What do you all think?
>> 
>> Read more here.
>> http://www.redmondpie.com/2016-macbook-pro-still-on-track-for-october-launch-will-feature-usb-c-and-thunderbolt-3/
>> 
>> 
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Re: Article: Apple on target for October MacBook Release

Hi, When will this be announced by apple will there be a live event again?
Greetings, Anouk,
> On 18 Oct 2016, at 19:03, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> Found this article on redmond pie and it seemed totally on topic to discuss.  
> Includes expectations about the up coming release of the laptops including 
> the end of the MacBook air 11, the 12 Inch MacBook taking the place of the 11 
> inch air, the continuation and upgrade of the MacBook air 13, and changes to 
> the MacBook Pro..  The article notes the source has a hit and miss record 
> with rumors, it does indicate that it matches other reports from more 
> reliable sources so it seems worth reading.  I’d be interested in comments, 
> I’m not sure I like all the proposed changes.
>   The changes include an OLED light bar (I assume in place of function 
> keys), no more mag safe adapter, no more USB, and what’s being included is 
> USB-C (I do like this) (Thunderbolt 3 (Apple always has to provide a little 
> bit different but proprietary port that’s a little faster, just because) and 
> the power button has the fingerprint Censor (I like it).
> What do you all think?
> 
> Read more here.
> http://www.redmondpie.com/2016-macbook-pro-still-on-track-for-october-launch-will-feature-usb-c-and-thunderbolt-3/
> 
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Re: Article: Apple on target for October MacBook Release

At times I’ll run over 12, it all depends.  Most are virtual routers which I 
attach together using the network adapter feature.  I’m able to build virtual 
networks and test changes before touching real hardware or with out the need 
for a full lab.

> On Oct 19, 2016, at 2:38 PM, christopher hallsworth  
> wrote:
> 
> Half a dozen virtual machines? Wow! Just saying.
>> On 19 Oct 2016, at 11:18, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> 
>> You’d definitely have heat problems.  My 15 inch MacBook Pro 2.8 GHZ Quad 
>> Core, 1 TB loves to turn the fans on full and warm right up, especially when 
>> running half a dozen or more virtual machines.  The performance is fantastic 
>> and everything runs very smoothly but wow! warm!
>>  Warm enough that sometimes I stick to using it on a desk.
>> 
>>> On Oct 19, 2016, at 4:40 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks Scott,
>>> 
>>> Sounds interesting,
>>> 
>>> I'm not overly impressed by the removing the 11 inch MBA, I prefer that 
>>> size machine but  want the specs of a MBP but that wont be possible I don't 
>>> believe.
>>> 
>>> Dreaming.
>>> Quad core processor 
>>> 16GB ram 
>>> 1tb ssd 
>>> Wonder if that would melt the mba 11inch keyboard?
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
>>> Sent: Wednesday, 19 October 2016 6:03 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Article: Apple on target for October MacBook Release
>>> 
>>> Found this article on redmond pie and it seemed totally on topic to 
>>> discuss.  Includes expectations about the up coming release of the laptops 
>>> including the end of the MacBook air 11, the 12 Inch MacBook taking the 
>>> place of the 11 inch air, the continuation and upgrade of the MacBook air 
>>> 13, and changes to the MacBook Pro..  The article notes the source has a 
>>> hit and miss record with rumors, it does indicate that it matches other 
>>> reports from more reliable sources so it seems worth reading.  I’d be 
>>> interested in comments, I’m not sure I like all the proposed changes.
>>> The changes include an OLED light bar (I assume in place of function 
>>> keys), no more mag safe adapter, no more USB, and what’s being included is 
>>> USB-C (I do like this) (Thunderbolt 3 (Apple always has to provide a little 
>>> bit different but proprietary port that’s a little faster, just because) 
>>> and the power button has the fingerprint Censor (I like it).
>>> What do you all think?
>>> 
>>> Read more here.
>>> http://www.redmondpie.com/2016-macbook-pro-still-on-track-for-october-launch-will-feature-usb-c-and-thunderbolt-3/
>>> 
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Re: Article: Apple on target for October MacBook Release

2016-10-19 Thread christopher hallsworth

Half a dozen virtual machines? Wow! Just saying.
> On 19 Oct 2016, at 11:18, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> You’d definitely have heat problems.  My 15 inch MacBook Pro 2.8 GHZ Quad 
> Core, 1 TB loves to turn the fans on full and warm right up, especially when 
> running half a dozen or more virtual machines.  The performance is fantastic 
> and everything runs very smoothly but wow! warm!
>   Warm enough that sometimes I stick to using it on a desk.
> 
>> On Oct 19, 2016, at 4:40 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks Scott,
>> 
>> Sounds interesting,
>> 
>> I'm not overly impressed by the removing the 11 inch MBA, I prefer that size 
>> machine but  want the specs of a MBP but that wont be possible I don't 
>> believe.
>> 
>> Dreaming.
>> Quad core processor 
>> 16GB ram 
>> 1tb ssd 
>> Wonder if that would melt the mba 11inch keyboard?
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
>> Sent: Wednesday, 19 October 2016 6:03 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Article: Apple on target for October MacBook Release
>> 
>> Found this article on redmond pie and it seemed totally on topic to discuss. 
>>  Includes expectations about the up coming release of the laptops including 
>> the end of the MacBook air 11, the 12 Inch MacBook taking the place of the 
>> 11 inch air, the continuation and upgrade of the MacBook air 13, and changes 
>> to the MacBook Pro..  The article notes the source has a hit and miss record 
>> with rumors, it does indicate that it matches other reports from more 
>> reliable sources so it seems worth reading.  I’d be interested in comments, 
>> I’m not sure I like all the proposed changes.
>>  The changes include an OLED light bar (I assume in place of function 
>> keys), no more mag safe adapter, no more USB, and what’s being included is 
>> USB-C (I do like this) (Thunderbolt 3 (Apple always has to provide a little 
>> bit different but proprietary port that’s a little faster, just because) and 
>> the power button has the fingerprint Censor (I like it).
>> What do you all think?
>> 
>> Read more here.
>> http://www.redmondpie.com/2016-macbook-pro-still-on-track-for-october-launch-will-feature-usb-c-and-thunderbolt-3/
>> 
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Re: Article: Apple on target for October MacBook Release

Thanks. I got to make tracks then and look at one. I might just pass
on the 6s. (smiles)

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On 10/19/2016 8:59 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

You asked about the adapter, it’s very very small, think of two plugs about the
size of the lightning end of your power cord with about an inch or so of cable
between them. Fits right in the bottom and has a flexible cable separating the
jack and lightning end so you don’t damage your connector with a big adapter
hanging out.

On Oct 19, 2016, at 11:56 AM, E.T. wrote:

Looks like the non plus would be just fine for me since I am not a camera
shutter freak. The produce man at my store would argue that one. (smiles)

I recharge at least every other day depending on what I did with the phone.
Its always a good idea to keep these things topped up.

I need to get a ride to the store and look at the 7. My 5 is still fine but
its over 3 years old. That is way longer than the flip phones I've had before.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 10/19/2016 8:48 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:

Hi ET,

For the most part, I think size is the only difference. I know that with the
6S, the plus models were reputed to have better battery life, don't know if
that is still true for the 7. Personally this was a non-issue for me, because
I charge my phone every night anyway, and I've always had enough battery life
to last a whole day.
HTH,
Donna

On Oct 19, 2016, at 10:14 AM, E.T. wrote:

Hi Donna,
Is size the only difference? Perhaps I will look at the 7/7 plus when I can
and decide then. Whonose? I might like it too.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 10/19/2016 7:45 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:

Hi ET,

The 7--both the plus and the regular have:
a newer, faster processor
the new chip that supports the airpots
Improved camera (I realize that may or may not matter to you)
stereo speakers (I personally find the sound noticeably improved)
The new virtual home button
Is slightly thinner

Others can probably add to this list. Remember the Plus refers to the larger
sized phone. Personally I prefer the smaller size, but that seems to be a
gender dependent thing, i.e. most guys seem to like the Plus, most women don't.
HTH,
Donna

On Oct 19, 2016, at 9:01 AM, E.T. wrote:

I was thinking 6s. What does the 7 plus have that the non plus model does not?
By the way, how long is the lightning to 3.5 adapter?

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 10/18/2016 10:24 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

A new iPhone is a most worth while cause. I love my 7+. Go with the plus if
you do upgrade.

On Oct 18, 2016, at 6:49 PM, E.T. wrote:

Interesting developments to be. I know nothing about USB C but I usually go
with the flow and so expect it probably will be an easy enough change to adapt
to.

The touch bar I find interesting too. We need someone to beta test hardware! Oh
right. NDA. So much for that.

My mid 2012 MBP still seems healthy whereas my bank account is not so a new Mac
is not on my radar. A new iPhone has a better chance.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 10/18/2016 10:03 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

Found this article on redmond pie and it seemed totally on topic to discuss.
Includes expectations about the up coming release of the laptops including the
end of the MacBook air 11, the 12 Inch MacBook taking the place of the 11 inch
air, the continuation and upgrade of the MacBook air 13, and changes to the
MacBook Pro.. The article notes the source has a hit and miss record with
rumors, it does indicate that it matches other reports from more reliable
sources so it seems worth reading. I’d be interested in comments, I’m not sure
I like all the proposed changes.
The changes include an OLED light bar (I assume in place of function
keys), no more mag safe adapter, no more USB, and what’s being included is
USB-C (I do like this) (Thunderbolt 3 (Apple always has to provide a little bit
different but proprietary port that’s a little faster, just because) and the
power button has the fingerprint Censor (I like it).
What do you all think?

Read more here.
http://www.redmondpie.com/2016-macbook-pro-still-on-track-for-october-launch-will-feature-usb-c-and-thunderbolt-3/

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Re: Article: Apple on target for October MacBook Release

You asked about the adapter, it’s very very small, think of two plugs about the 
size of the lightning end of your power cord with about an inch or so of cable 
between them.  Fits right in the bottom and has a flexible cable separating the 
jack and lightning end so you don’t damage your connector with a big adapter 
hanging out.
 

> On Oct 19, 2016, at 11:56 AM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   Looks like the non plus would be just fine for me since I am not a camera 
> shutter freak. The produce man at my store would argue that one. (smiles)
> 
>   I recharge at least every other day depending on what I did with the phone. 
> Its always a good idea to keep these things topped up.
> 
>   I need to get a ride to the store and look at the 7. My 5 is still fine but 
> its over 3 years old. That is way longer than the flip phones I've had before.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>  Without H2O there is no life!
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 10/19/2016 8:48 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>> Hi ET,
>> 
>> For the most part, I think size is the only difference.  I know that with 
>> the 6S, the plus models were reputed to have better battery life, don't know 
>> if that is still true for the 7.  Personally this was a non-issue for me, 
>> because I charge my phone every night anyway, and I've always had enough 
>> battery life to last a whole day.
>> HTH,
>> Donna
>>> On Oct 19, 2016, at 10:14 AM, E.T.  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Donna,
>>>  Is size the only difference? Perhaps I will look at the 7/7 plus when I 
>>> can and decide then. Whonose? I might like it too.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> Without H2O there is no life!
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> 
>>> On 10/19/2016 7:45 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
 Hi ET,
 
 The 7--both the plus and the regular have:
 a newer, faster processor
 the new chip that supports the airpots
 Improved camera (I realize that may or may not matter to you)
 stereo speakers  (I personally find the sound noticeably improved)
 The new virtual home button
 Is slightly thinner
 
 
 Others can probably add to this list.  Remember the Plus refers to the 
 larger sized phone.  Personally I prefer the smaller size, but that seems 
 to be a gender dependent thing, i.e. most guys seem to like the Plus, most 
 women don't.
 HTH,
 Donna
> On Oct 19, 2016, at 9:01 AM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
> I was thinking 6s. What does the 7 plus have that the non plus model does 
> not? By the way, how long is the lightning to 3.5 adapter?
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> Without H2O there is no life!
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 10/18/2016 10:24 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> A new iPhone is a most worth while cause.  I love my 7+.  Go with the 
>> plus if you do upgrade.
>> 
>>> On Oct 18, 2016, at 6:49 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Interesting developments to be. I know nothing about USB C but I 
>>> usually go with the flow and so expect it probably will be an easy 
>>> enough change to adapt to.
>>> 
>>> The touch bar I find interesting too. We need someone to beta test 
>>> hardware! Oh right. NDA. So much for that.
>>> 
>>> My mid 2012 MBP still seems healthy whereas my bank account is not so a 
>>> new Mac is not on my radar. A new iPhone has a better chance.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> Without H2O there is no life!
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> 
>>> On 10/18/2016 10:03 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
 Found this article on redmond pie and it seemed totally on topic to 
 discuss.  Includes expectations about the up coming release of the 
 laptops including the end of the MacBook air 11, the 12 Inch MacBook 
 taking the place of the 11 inch air, the continuation and upgrade of 
 the MacBook air 13, and changes to the MacBook Pro..  The article 
 notes the source has a hit and miss record with rumors, it does 
 indicate that it matches other reports from more reliable sources so 
 it seems worth reading.  I’d be interested in comments, I’m not sure I 
 like all the proposed changes.
The changes include an OLED light bar (I assume in place of 
 function keys), no more mag safe adapter, no more USB, and what’s 
 being included is USB-C (I do like this) (Thunderbolt 3 (Apple always 
 has to provide a little bit different but proprietary port that’s a 
 little faster, just because) and the power button has the fingerprint 
 Censor (I like it).
 What do you all think?
 
 Read more here.
 http://www.redmondpie.com/2016-macbook-pro-still-on-track-for-october-launch-will-feature-usb-c-and-thunderbolt-3/
 
 
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Re: Article: Apple on target for October MacBook Release

FYI Apple is announcing an event next Thursday.

Probably to release these MacBooks.

> On Oct 19, 2016, at 11:49 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Interesting.  I didn't know about the extra gig of program memory.  I can see 
> where that would be handy, but still don't think I'd want such a ginormous 
> phone.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>> On Oct 19, 2016, at 10:46 AM, Scott Granados  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> The + also has a second camera, an extra gig of program memory and a bit 
>> larger battery as I understand it.
>> 
>>> On Oct 19, 2016, at 10:45 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi ET,
>>> 
>>> The 7--both the plus and the regular have:
>>> a newer, faster processor
>>> the new chip that supports the airpots
>>> Improved camera (I realize that may or may not matter to you)
>>> stereo speakers  (I personally find the sound noticeably improved)
>>> The new virtual home button
>>> Is slightly thinner
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Others can probably add to this list.  Remember the Plus refers to the 
>>> larger sized phone.  Personally I prefer the smaller size, but that seems 
>>> to be a gender dependent thing, i.e. most guys seem to like the Plus, most 
>>> women don't.
>>> HTH,
>>> Donna
 On Oct 19, 2016, at 9:01 AM, E.T.  wrote:
 
 I was thinking 6s. What does the 7 plus have that the non plus model does 
 not? By the way, how long is the lightning to 3.5 adapter?
 
 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 Without H2O there is no life!
 ancient.ali...@icloud.com
 
 On 10/18/2016 10:24 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
> A new iPhone is a most worth while cause.  I love my 7+.  Go with the 
> plus if you do upgrade.
> 
>> On Oct 18, 2016, at 6:49 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>> 
>> Interesting developments to be. I know nothing about USB C but I usually 
>> go with the flow and so expect it probably will be an easy enough change 
>> to adapt to.
>> 
>> The touch bar I find interesting too. We need someone to beta test 
>> hardware! Oh right. NDA. So much for that.
>> 
>> My mid 2012 MBP still seems healthy whereas my bank account is not so a 
>> new Mac is not on my radar. A new iPhone has a better chance.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> Without H2O there is no life!
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> 
>> On 10/18/2016 10:03 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> Found this article on redmond pie and it seemed totally on topic to 
>>> discuss.  Includes expectations about the up coming release of the 
>>> laptops including the end of the MacBook air 11, the 12 Inch MacBook 
>>> taking the place of the 11 inch air, the continuation and upgrade of 
>>> the MacBook air 13, and changes to the MacBook Pro..  The article notes 
>>> the source has a hit and miss record with rumors, it does indicate that 
>>> it matches other reports from more reliable sources so it seems worth 
>>> reading.  I’d be interested in comments, I’m not sure I like all the 
>>> proposed changes.
>>> The changes include an OLED light bar (I assume in place of 
>>> function keys), no more mag safe adapter, no more USB, and what’s being 
>>> included is USB-C (I do like this) (Thunderbolt 3 (Apple always has to 
>>> provide a little bit different but proprietary port that’s a little 
>>> faster, just because) and the power button has the fingerprint Censor 
>>> (I like it).
>>> What do you all think?
>>> 
>>> Read more here.
>>> http://www.redmondpie.com/2016-macbook-pro-still-on-track-for-october-launch-will-feature-usb-c-and-thunderbolt-3/
>>> 
>>> 
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   Looks like the non plus would be just fine for me since I am not a 
camera shutter freak. The produce man at my store would argue that one. 
(smiles)


   I recharge at least every other day depending on what I did with the 
phone. Its always a good idea to keep these things topped up.


   I need to get a ride to the store and look at the 7. My 5 is still 
fine but its over 3 years old. That is way longer than the flip phones 
I've had before.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
  Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 10/19/2016 8:48 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:

Hi ET,

For the most part, I think size is the only difference.  I know that with the 
6S, the plus models were reputed to have better battery life, don't know if 
that is still true for the 7.  Personally this was a non-issue for me, because 
I charge my phone every night anyway, and I've always had enough battery life 
to last a whole day.
HTH,
Donna

On Oct 19, 2016, at 10:14 AM, E.T.  wrote:

Hi Donna,
  Is size the only difference? Perhaps I will look at the 7/7 plus when I can 
and decide then. Whonose? I might like it too.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 10/19/2016 7:45 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:

Hi ET,

The 7--both the plus and the regular have:
a newer, faster processor
the new chip that supports the airpots
Improved camera (I realize that may or may not matter to you)
stereo speakers  (I personally find the sound noticeably improved)
The new virtual home button
Is slightly thinner


Others can probably add to this list.  Remember the Plus refers to the larger 
sized phone.  Personally I prefer the smaller size, but that seems to be a 
gender dependent thing, i.e. most guys seem to like the Plus, most women don't.
HTH,
Donna

On Oct 19, 2016, at 9:01 AM, E.T.  wrote:

 I was thinking 6s. What does the 7 plus have that the non plus model does not? 
By the way, how long is the lightning to 3.5 adapter?

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 10/18/2016 10:24 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

A new iPhone is a most worth while cause.  I love my 7+.  Go with the plus if 
you do upgrade.


On Oct 18, 2016, at 6:49 PM, E.T.  wrote:

Interesting developments to be. I know nothing about USB C but I usually go 
with the flow and so expect it probably will be an easy enough change to adapt 
to.

The touch bar I find interesting too. We need someone to beta test hardware! Oh 
right. NDA. So much for that.

My mid 2012 MBP still seems healthy whereas my bank account is not so a new Mac 
is not on my radar. A new iPhone has a better chance.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 10/18/2016 10:03 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

Found this article on redmond pie and it seemed totally on topic to discuss.  
Includes expectations about the up coming release of the laptops including the 
end of the MacBook air 11, the 12 Inch MacBook taking the place of the 11 inch 
air, the continuation and upgrade of the MacBook air 13, and changes to the 
MacBook Pro..  The article notes the source has a hit and miss record with 
rumors, it does indicate that it matches other reports from more reliable 
sources so it seems worth reading.  I’d be interested in comments, I’m not sure 
I like all the proposed changes.
The changes include an OLED light bar (I assume in place of function 
keys), no more mag safe adapter, no more USB, and what’s being included is 
USB-C (I do like this) (Thunderbolt 3 (Apple always has to provide a little bit 
different but proprietary port that’s a little faster, just because) and the 
power button has the fingerprint Censor (I like it).
What do you all think?

Read more here.
http://www.redmondpie.com/2016-macbook-pro-still-on-track-for-october-launch-will-feature-usb-c-and-thunderbolt-3/




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2016-10-19 Thread Donna Goodin

Interesting.  I didn't know about the extra gig of program memory.  I can see 
where that would be handy, but still don't think I'd want such a ginormous 
phone.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Oct 19, 2016, at 10:46 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> The + also has a second camera, an extra gig of program memory and a bit 
> larger battery as I understand it.
> 
>> On Oct 19, 2016, at 10:45 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi ET,
>> 
>> The 7--both the plus and the regular have:
>> a newer, faster processor
>> the new chip that supports the airpots
>> Improved camera (I realize that may or may not matter to you)
>> stereo speakers  (I personally find the sound noticeably improved)
>> The new virtual home button
>> Is slightly thinner
>> 
>> 
>> Others can probably add to this list.  Remember the Plus refers to the 
>> larger sized phone.  Personally I prefer the smaller size, but that seems to 
>> be a gender dependent thing, i.e. most guys seem to like the Plus, most 
>> women don't.
>> HTH,
>> Donna
>>> On Oct 19, 2016, at 9:01 AM, E.T.  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I was thinking 6s. What does the 7 plus have that the non plus model does 
>>> not? By the way, how long is the lightning to 3.5 adapter?
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> Without H2O there is no life!
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> 
>>> On 10/18/2016 10:24 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
 A new iPhone is a most worth while cause.  I love my 7+.  Go with the plus 
 if you do upgrade.
 
> On Oct 18, 2016, at 6:49 PM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
> Interesting developments to be. I know nothing about USB C but I usually 
> go with the flow and so expect it probably will be an easy enough change 
> to adapt to.
> 
> The touch bar I find interesting too. We need someone to beta test 
> hardware! Oh right. NDA. So much for that.
> 
> My mid 2012 MBP still seems healthy whereas my bank account is not so a 
> new Mac is not on my radar. A new iPhone has a better chance.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> Without H2O there is no life!
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 10/18/2016 10:03 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> Found this article on redmond pie and it seemed totally on topic to 
>> discuss.  Includes expectations about the up coming release of the 
>> laptops including the end of the MacBook air 11, the 12 Inch MacBook 
>> taking the place of the 11 inch air, the continuation and upgrade of the 
>> MacBook air 13, and changes to the MacBook Pro..  The article notes the 
>> source has a hit and miss record with rumors, it does indicate that it 
>> matches other reports from more reliable sources so it seems worth 
>> reading.  I’d be interested in comments, I’m not sure I like all the 
>> proposed changes.
>>  The changes include an OLED light bar (I assume in place of function 
>> keys), no more mag safe adapter, no more USB, and what’s being included 
>> is USB-C (I do like this) (Thunderbolt 3 (Apple always has to provide a 
>> little bit different but proprietary port that’s a little faster, just 
>> because) and the power button has the fingerprint Censor (I like it).
>> What do you all think?
>> 
>> Read more here.
>> http://www.redmondpie.com/2016-macbook-pro-still-on-track-for-october-launch-will-feature-usb-c-and-thunderbolt-3/
>> 
>> 
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Re: Article: Apple on target for October MacBook Release

Both the 7 and 7+ now have optical image stabilization as well, not just 
electronic like the 6 and 6s models.  SO that difference is no longer there.  
Mainly more memory, more screen, more battery and an extra camera.

> On Oct 19, 2016, at 11:48 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Hi ET,
> 
> For the most part, I think size is the only difference.  I know that with the 
> 6S, the plus models were reputed to have better battery life, don't know if 
> that is still true for the 7.  Personally this was a non-issue for me, 
> because I charge my phone every night anyway, and I've always had enough 
> battery life to last a whole day.
> HTH,
> Donna
>> On Oct 19, 2016, at 10:14 AM, E.T.  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Donna,
>>  Is size the only difference? Perhaps I will look at the 7/7 plus when I can 
>> and decide then. Whonose? I might like it too.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> Without H2O there is no life!
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> 
>> On 10/19/2016 7:45 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>>> Hi ET,
>>> 
>>> The 7--both the plus and the regular have:
>>> a newer, faster processor
>>> the new chip that supports the airpots
>>> Improved camera (I realize that may or may not matter to you)
>>> stereo speakers  (I personally find the sound noticeably improved)
>>> The new virtual home button
>>> Is slightly thinner
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Others can probably add to this list.  Remember the Plus refers to the 
>>> larger sized phone.  Personally I prefer the smaller size, but that seems 
>>> to be a gender dependent thing, i.e. most guys seem to like the Plus, most 
>>> women don't.
>>> HTH,
>>> Donna
 On Oct 19, 2016, at 9:01 AM, E.T.  wrote:
 
 I was thinking 6s. What does the 7 plus have that the non plus model does 
 not? By the way, how long is the lightning to 3.5 adapter?
 
 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 Without H2O there is no life!
 ancient.ali...@icloud.com
 
 On 10/18/2016 10:24 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
> A new iPhone is a most worth while cause.  I love my 7+.  Go with the 
> plus if you do upgrade.
> 
>> On Oct 18, 2016, at 6:49 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>> 
>> Interesting developments to be. I know nothing about USB C but I usually 
>> go with the flow and so expect it probably will be an easy enough change 
>> to adapt to.
>> 
>> The touch bar I find interesting too. We need someone to beta test 
>> hardware! Oh right. NDA. So much for that.
>> 
>> My mid 2012 MBP still seems healthy whereas my bank account is not so a 
>> new Mac is not on my radar. A new iPhone has a better chance.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> Without H2O there is no life!
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> 
>> On 10/18/2016 10:03 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> Found this article on redmond pie and it seemed totally on topic to 
>>> discuss.  Includes expectations about the up coming release of the 
>>> laptops including the end of the MacBook air 11, the 12 Inch MacBook 
>>> taking the place of the 11 inch air, the continuation and upgrade of 
>>> the MacBook air 13, and changes to the MacBook Pro..  The article notes 
>>> the source has a hit and miss record with rumors, it does indicate that 
>>> it matches other reports from more reliable sources so it seems worth 
>>> reading.  I’d be interested in comments, I’m not sure I like all the 
>>> proposed changes.
>>> The changes include an OLED light bar (I assume in place of 
>>> function keys), no more mag safe adapter, no more USB, and what’s being 
>>> included is USB-C (I do like this) (Thunderbolt 3 (Apple always has to 
>>> provide a little bit different but proprietary port that’s a little 
>>> faster, just because) and the power button has the fingerprint Censor 
>>> (I like it).
>>> What do you all think?
>>> 
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Re: Article: Apple on target for October MacBook Release

I haven’t tried this, do you have a pointer how to do this?  My understanding 
is Macs couldn’t be over clocked other than the built in Turbo mode which 
automatically bumps up the clock rate, in my case from 2.8 to 4.0 GHZ.  Is 
there an over clocking mechanism like there is with non Mac hardware?

> On Oct 19, 2016, at 7:12 AM, Sandi Jazmin Kruse  wrote:
> 
> says under her breath you can over clock a mac like you can with any
> cpu, really. do it at your own risk, though :)
> 
> On 10/19/16, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> I’m sure they will come up with what ever adapters you’ll need.  I’m
>> surprised for example by the audio improvement on the iPhone 7 using the
>> adapter with non Apple headphones and the included headset is also very
>> good.
>> 
>> how cool would it be if you could plug in a high quality D/A convertor to
>> your iPhone for recording maybe like someone said make  it part of a high
>> end Microphone package. (I like that idea)
>> 
>> I just wonder myself about the removal of the traditional USB ports.  I
>> still have a lot of cables that use that format not the least of which are
>> all of my Apple devices.:)
>> 
>> I’m more curious about the light bar and how Voiceover will be addressed.
>> 
>>> On Oct 19, 2016, at 3:14 AM, Sandi Jazmin Kruse 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, as a girl who got the Mac book, the one without respiration i can
>>> say that it is slower, way slower, however it is my main machine right
>>> as we speak for MS flightsim, which it runs relative fine.
>>> I am not sure that changing to Usbc is a good thing, but that is just
>>> me , as a Keytarist, that would make me think twice about getting the
>>> new mac book pro.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 10/18/16, David Chittenden  wrote:
 There were no 7+ available, so I went with the 7 two days ago. I will
 probably switch back to the + size iPhone next year. I do love my 7.
 
 Kind regards,
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +61 488 988 936
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On 19/10/2016, at 15:24, Scott Granados 
> wrote:
> 
> A new iPhone is a most worth while cause.  I love my 7+.  Go with the
> plus
> if you do upgrade.
> 
>> On Oct 18, 2016, at 6:49 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>> 
>> Interesting developments to be. I know nothing about USB C but I
>> usually
>> go with the flow and so expect it probably will be an easy enough
>> change
>> to adapt to.
>> 
>> The touch bar I find interesting too. We need someone to beta test
>> hardware! Oh right. NDA. So much for that.
>> 
>> My mid 2012 MBP still seems healthy whereas my bank account is not so
>> a
>> new Mac is not on my radar. A new iPhone has a better chance.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> Without H2O there is no life!
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> 
>>> On 10/18/2016 10:03 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> Found this article on redmond pie and it seemed totally on topic to
>>> discuss.  Includes expectations about the up coming release of the
>>> laptops including the end of the MacBook air 11, the 12 Inch MacBook
>>> taking the place of the 11 inch air, the continuation and upgrade of
>>> the
>>> MacBook air 13, and changes to the MacBook Pro..  The article notes
>>> the
>>> source has a hit and miss record with rumors, it does indicate that
>>> it
>>> matches other reports from more reliable sources so it seems worth
>>> reading.  I’d be interested in comments, I’m not sure I like all the
>>> proposed changes.
>>>  The changes include an OLED light bar (I assume in place of
>>> function
>>> keys), no more mag safe adapter, no more USB, and what’s being
>>> included
>>> is USB-C (I do like this) (Thunderbolt 3 (Apple always has to provide
>>> a
>>> little bit different but proprietary port that’s a little faster,
>>> just
>>> because) and the power button has the fingerprint Censor (I like it).
>>> What do you all think?
>>> 
>>> Read more here.
>>> http://www.redmondpie.com/2016-macbook-pro-still-on-track-for-october-launch-will-feature-usb-c-and-thunderbolt-3/
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Article: Apple on target for October MacBook Release

2016-10-19 Thread Donna Goodin

Hi ET,

For the most part, I think size is the only difference.  I know that with the 
6S, the plus models were reputed to have better battery life, don't know if 
that is still true for the 7.  Personally this was a non-issue for me, because 
I charge my phone every night anyway, and I've always had enough battery life 
to last a whole day.
HTH,
Donna
> On Oct 19, 2016, at 10:14 AM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
> Hi Donna,
>   Is size the only difference? Perhaps I will look at the 7/7 plus when I can 
> and decide then. Whonose? I might like it too.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>  Without H2O there is no life!
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 10/19/2016 7:45 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>> Hi ET,
>> 
>> The 7--both the plus and the regular have:
>> a newer, faster processor
>> the new chip that supports the airpots
>> Improved camera (I realize that may or may not matter to you)
>> stereo speakers  (I personally find the sound noticeably improved)
>> The new virtual home button
>> Is slightly thinner
>> 
>> 
>> Others can probably add to this list.  Remember the Plus refers to the 
>> larger sized phone.  Personally I prefer the smaller size, but that seems to 
>> be a gender dependent thing, i.e. most guys seem to like the Plus, most 
>> women don't.
>> HTH,
>> Donna
>>> On Oct 19, 2016, at 9:01 AM, E.T.  wrote:
>>> 
>>>  I was thinking 6s. What does the 7 plus have that the non plus model does 
>>> not? By the way, how long is the lightning to 3.5 adapter?
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> Without H2O there is no life!
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> 
>>> On 10/18/2016 10:24 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
 A new iPhone is a most worth while cause.  I love my 7+.  Go with the plus 
 if you do upgrade.
 
> On Oct 18, 2016, at 6:49 PM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
> Interesting developments to be. I know nothing about USB C but I usually 
> go with the flow and so expect it probably will be an easy enough change 
> to adapt to.
> 
> The touch bar I find interesting too. We need someone to beta test 
> hardware! Oh right. NDA. So much for that.
> 
> My mid 2012 MBP still seems healthy whereas my bank account is not so a 
> new Mac is not on my radar. A new iPhone has a better chance.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> Without H2O there is no life!
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 10/18/2016 10:03 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> Found this article on redmond pie and it seemed totally on topic to 
>> discuss.  Includes expectations about the up coming release of the 
>> laptops including the end of the MacBook air 11, the 12 Inch MacBook 
>> taking the place of the 11 inch air, the continuation and upgrade of the 
>> MacBook air 13, and changes to the MacBook Pro..  The article notes the 
>> source has a hit and miss record with rumors, it does indicate that it 
>> matches other reports from more reliable sources so it seems worth 
>> reading.  I’d be interested in comments, I’m not sure I like all the 
>> proposed changes.
>>  The changes include an OLED light bar (I assume in place of function 
>> keys), no more mag safe adapter, no more USB, and what’s being included 
>> is USB-C (I do like this) (Thunderbolt 3 (Apple always has to provide a 
>> little bit different but proprietary port that’s a little faster, just 
>> because) and the power button has the fingerprint Censor (I like it).
>> What do you all think?
>> 
>> Read more here.
>> http://www.redmondpie.com/2016-macbook-pro-still-on-track-for-october-launch-will-feature-usb-c-and-thunderbolt-3/
>> 
>> 
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Re: Article: Apple on target for October MacBook Release

The + also has a second camera, an extra gig of program memory and a bit larger 
battery as I understand it.

> On Oct 19, 2016, at 10:45 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Hi ET,
> 
> The 7--both the plus and the regular have:
> a newer, faster processor
> the new chip that supports the airpots
> Improved camera (I realize that may or may not matter to you)
> stereo speakers  (I personally find the sound noticeably improved)
> The new virtual home button
> Is slightly thinner
> 
> 
> Others can probably add to this list.  Remember the Plus refers to the larger 
> sized phone.  Personally I prefer the smaller size, but that seems to be a 
> gender dependent thing, i.e. most guys seem to like the Plus, most women 
> don't.
> HTH,
> Donna
>> On Oct 19, 2016, at 9:01 AM, E.T.  wrote:
>> 
>>  I was thinking 6s. What does the 7 plus have that the non plus model does 
>> not? By the way, how long is the lightning to 3.5 adapter?
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> Without H2O there is no life!
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> 
>> On 10/18/2016 10:24 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> A new iPhone is a most worth while cause.  I love my 7+.  Go with the plus 
>>> if you do upgrade.
>>> 
 On Oct 18, 2016, at 6:49 PM, E.T.  wrote:
 
 Interesting developments to be. I know nothing about USB C but I usually 
 go with the flow and so expect it probably will be an easy enough change 
 to adapt to.
 
 The touch bar I find interesting too. We need someone to beta test 
 hardware! Oh right. NDA. So much for that.
 
 My mid 2012 MBP still seems healthy whereas my bank account is not so a 
 new Mac is not on my radar. A new iPhone has a better chance.
 
 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 Without H2O there is no life!
 ancient.ali...@icloud.com
 
 On 10/18/2016 10:03 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
> Found this article on redmond pie and it seemed totally on topic to 
> discuss.  Includes expectations about the up coming release of the 
> laptops including the end of the MacBook air 11, the 12 Inch MacBook 
> taking the place of the 11 inch air, the continuation and upgrade of the 
> MacBook air 13, and changes to the MacBook Pro..  The article notes the 
> source has a hit and miss record with rumors, it does indicate that it 
> matches other reports from more reliable sources so it seems worth 
> reading.  I’d be interested in comments, I’m not sure I like all the 
> proposed changes.
>   The changes include an OLED light bar (I assume in place of function 
> keys), no more mag safe adapter, no more USB, and what’s being included 
> is USB-C (I do like this) (Thunderbolt 3 (Apple always has to provide a 
> little bit different but proprietary port that’s a little faster, just 
> because) and the power button has the fingerprint Censor (I like it).
> What do you all think?
> 
> Read more here.
> http://www.redmondpie.com/2016-macbook-pro-still-on-track-for-october-launch-will-feature-usb-c-and-thunderbolt-3/
> 
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Re: Article: Apple on target for October MacBook Release

2016-10-19 Thread Kliphton Miller

Well, I prefer the 4.7 model.  I had the 6 Plus, but didn’t really need all 
that extra screen, the battery life was nice though.
> On Oct 19, 2016, at 10:45 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Hi ET,
> 
> The 7--both the plus and the regular have:
> a newer, faster processor
> the new chip that supports the airpots
> Improved camera (I realize that may or may not matter to you)
> stereo speakers  (I personally find the sound noticeably improved)
> The new virtual home button
> Is slightly thinner
> 
> 
> Others can probably add to this list.  Remember the Plus refers to the larger 
> sized phone.  Personally I prefer the smaller size, but that seems to be a 
> gender dependent thing, i.e. most guys seem to like the Plus, most women 
> don't.
> HTH,
> Donna
>> On Oct 19, 2016, at 9:01 AM, E.T.  wrote:
>> 
>>  I was thinking 6s. What does the 7 plus have that the non plus model does 
>> not? By the way, how long is the lightning to 3.5 adapter?
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> Without H2O there is no life!
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> 
>> On 10/18/2016 10:24 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> A new iPhone is a most worth while cause.  I love my 7+.  Go with the plus 
>>> if you do upgrade.
>>> 
 On Oct 18, 2016, at 6:49 PM, E.T.  wrote:
 
 Interesting developments to be. I know nothing about USB C but I usually 
 go with the flow and so expect it probably will be an easy enough change 
 to adapt to.
 
 The touch bar I find interesting too. We need someone to beta test 
 hardware! Oh right. NDA. So much for that.
 
 My mid 2012 MBP still seems healthy whereas my bank account is not so a 
 new Mac is not on my radar. A new iPhone has a better chance.
 
 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 Without H2O there is no life!
 ancient.ali...@icloud.com
 
 On 10/18/2016 10:03 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
> Found this article on redmond pie and it seemed totally on topic to 
> discuss.  Includes expectations about the up coming release of the 
> laptops including the end of the MacBook air 11, the 12 Inch MacBook 
> taking the place of the 11 inch air, the continuation and upgrade of the 
> MacBook air 13, and changes to the MacBook Pro..  The article notes the 
> source has a hit and miss record with rumors, it does indicate that it 
> matches other reports from more reliable sources so it seems worth 
> reading.  I’d be interested in comments, I’m not sure I like all the 
> proposed changes.
>   The changes include an OLED light bar (I assume in place of function 
> keys), no more mag safe adapter, no more USB, and what’s being included 
> is USB-C (I do like this) (Thunderbolt 3 (Apple always has to provide a 
> little bit different but proprietary port that’s a little faster, just 
> because) and the power button has the fingerprint Censor (I like it).
> What do you all think?
> 
> Read more here.
> http://www.redmondpie.com/2016-macbook-pro-still-on-track-for-october-launch-will-feature-usb-c-and-thunderbolt-3/
> 
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Hi Donna,
   Is size the only difference? Perhaps I will look at the 7/7 plus 
when I can and decide then. Whonose? I might like it too.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
  Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 10/19/2016 7:45 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:

Hi ET,

The 7--both the plus and the regular have:
a newer, faster processor
the new chip that supports the airpots
Improved camera (I realize that may or may not matter to you)
stereo speakers  (I personally find the sound noticeably improved)
The new virtual home button
Is slightly thinner


Others can probably add to this list.  Remember the Plus refers to the larger 
sized phone.  Personally I prefer the smaller size, but that seems to be a 
gender dependent thing, i.e. most guys seem to like the Plus, most women don't.
HTH,
Donna

On Oct 19, 2016, at 9:01 AM, E.T.  wrote:

  I was thinking 6s. What does the 7 plus have that the non plus model does 
not? By the way, how long is the lightning to 3.5 adapter?

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 10/18/2016 10:24 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

A new iPhone is a most worth while cause.  I love my 7+.  Go with the plus if 
you do upgrade.


On Oct 18, 2016, at 6:49 PM, E.T.  wrote:

 Interesting developments to be. I know nothing about USB C but I usually go 
with the flow and so expect it probably will be an easy enough change to adapt 
to.

 The touch bar I find interesting too. We need someone to beta test hardware! 
Oh right. NDA. So much for that.

 My mid 2012 MBP still seems healthy whereas my bank account is not so a new 
Mac is not on my radar. A new iPhone has a better chance.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 10/18/2016 10:03 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

Found this article on redmond pie and it seemed totally on topic to discuss.  
Includes expectations about the up coming release of the laptops including the 
end of the MacBook air 11, the 12 Inch MacBook taking the place of the 11 inch 
air, the continuation and upgrade of the MacBook air 13, and changes to the 
MacBook Pro..  The article notes the source has a hit and miss record with 
rumors, it does indicate that it matches other reports from more reliable 
sources so it seems worth reading.  I’d be interested in comments, I’m not sure 
I like all the proposed changes.
The changes include an OLED light bar (I assume in place of function 
keys), no more mag safe adapter, no more USB, and what’s being included is 
USB-C (I do like this) (Thunderbolt 3 (Apple always has to provide a little bit 
different but proprietary port that’s a little faster, just because) and the 
power button has the fingerprint Censor (I like it).
What do you all think?

Read more here.
http://www.redmondpie.com/2016-macbook-pro-still-on-track-for-october-launch-will-feature-usb-c-and-thunderbolt-3/




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Re: Article: Apple on target for October MacBook Release

2016-10-19 Thread Donna Goodin

Hi ET,

The 7--both the plus and the regular have:
a newer, faster processor
the new chip that supports the airpots
Improved camera (I realize that may or may not matter to you)
stereo speakers  (I personally find the sound noticeably improved)
The new virtual home button
Is slightly thinner


Others can probably add to this list.  Remember the Plus refers to the larger 
sized phone.  Personally I prefer the smaller size, but that seems to be a 
gender dependent thing, i.e. most guys seem to like the Plus, most women don't.
HTH,
Donna
> On Oct 19, 2016, at 9:01 AM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   I was thinking 6s. What does the 7 plus have that the non plus model does 
> not? By the way, how long is the lightning to 3.5 adapter?
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>  Without H2O there is no life!
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 10/18/2016 10:24 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> A new iPhone is a most worth while cause.  I love my 7+.  Go with the plus 
>> if you do upgrade.
>> 
>>> On Oct 18, 2016, at 6:49 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>>> 
>>>  Interesting developments to be. I know nothing about USB C but I usually 
>>> go with the flow and so expect it probably will be an easy enough change to 
>>> adapt to.
>>> 
>>>  The touch bar I find interesting too. We need someone to beta test 
>>> hardware! Oh right. NDA. So much for that.
>>> 
>>>  My mid 2012 MBP still seems healthy whereas my bank account is not so a 
>>> new Mac is not on my radar. A new iPhone has a better chance.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> Without H2O there is no life!
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> 
>>> On 10/18/2016 10:03 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
 Found this article on redmond pie and it seemed totally on topic to 
 discuss.  Includes expectations about the up coming release of the laptops 
 including the end of the MacBook air 11, the 12 Inch MacBook taking the 
 place of the 11 inch air, the continuation and upgrade of the MacBook air 
 13, and changes to the MacBook Pro..  The article notes the source has a 
 hit and miss record with rumors, it does indicate that it matches other 
 reports from more reliable sources so it seems worth reading.  I’d be 
 interested in comments, I’m not sure I like all the proposed changes.
The changes include an OLED light bar (I assume in place of function 
 keys), no more mag safe adapter, no more USB, and what’s being included is 
 USB-C (I do like this) (Thunderbolt 3 (Apple always has to provide a 
 little bit different but proprietary port that’s a little faster, just 
 because) and the power button has the fingerprint Censor (I like it).
 What do you all think?
 
 Read more here.
 http://www.redmondpie.com/2016-macbook-pro-still-on-track-for-october-launch-will-feature-usb-c-and-thunderbolt-3/
 
 
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Re: Article: Apple on target for October MacBook Release

   I was thinking 6s. What does the 7 plus have that the non plus model 
does not? By the way, how long is the lightning to 3.5 adapter?


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On 10/18/2016 10:24 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

A new iPhone is a most worth while cause.  I love my 7+.  Go with the plus if 
you do upgrade.


On Oct 18, 2016, at 6:49 PM, E.T.  wrote:

  Interesting developments to be. I know nothing about USB C but I usually go 
with the flow and so expect it probably will be an easy enough change to adapt 
to.

  The touch bar I find interesting too. We need someone to beta test hardware! 
Oh right. NDA. So much for that.

  My mid 2012 MBP still seems healthy whereas my bank account is not so a new 
Mac is not on my radar. A new iPhone has a better chance.

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On 10/18/2016 10:03 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

Found this article on redmond pie and it seemed totally on topic to discuss.  
Includes expectations about the up coming release of the laptops including the 
end of the MacBook air 11, the 12 Inch MacBook taking the place of the 11 inch 
air, the continuation and upgrade of the MacBook air 13, and changes to the 
MacBook Pro..  The article notes the source has a hit and miss record with 
rumors, it does indicate that it matches other reports from more reliable 
sources so it seems worth reading.  I’d be interested in comments, I’m not sure 
I like all the proposed changes.
The changes include an OLED light bar (I assume in place of function 
keys), no more mag safe adapter, no more USB, and what’s being included is 
USB-C (I do like this) (Thunderbolt 3 (Apple always has to provide a little bit 
different but proprietary port that’s a little faster, just because) and the 
power button has the fingerprint Censor (I like it).
What do you all think?

Read more here.
http://www.redmondpie.com/2016-macbook-pro-still-on-track-for-october-launch-will-feature-usb-c-and-thunderbolt-3/




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Re: Article: Apple on target for October MacBook Release

2016-10-19 Thread Sandi Jazmin Kruse

says under her breath you can over clock a mac like you can with any
cpu, really. do it at your own risk, though :)

On 10/19/16, Scott Granados  wrote:
> I’m sure they will come up with what ever adapters you’ll need.  I’m
> surprised for example by the audio improvement on the iPhone 7 using the
> adapter with non Apple headphones and the included headset is also very
> good.
>
> how cool would it be if you could plug in a high quality D/A convertor to
> your iPhone for recording maybe like someone said make  it part of a high
> end Microphone package. (I like that idea)
>
> I just wonder myself about the removal of the traditional USB ports.  I
> still have a lot of cables that use that format not the least of which are
> all of my Apple devices.:)
>
> I’m more curious about the light bar and how Voiceover will be addressed.
>
>> On Oct 19, 2016, at 3:14 AM, Sandi Jazmin Kruse 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi, as a girl who got the Mac book, the one without respiration i can
>> say that it is slower, way slower, however it is my main machine right
>> as we speak for MS flightsim, which it runs relative fine.
>> I am not sure that changing to Usbc is a good thing, but that is just
>> me , as a Keytarist, that would make me think twice about getting the
>> new mac book pro.
>>
>>
>> On 10/18/16, David Chittenden  wrote:
>>> There were no 7+ available, so I went with the 7 two days ago. I will
>>> probably switch back to the + size iPhone next year. I do love my 7.
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>>
>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>>> Mobile: +61 488 988 936
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
 On 19/10/2016, at 15:24, Scott Granados 
 wrote:

 A new iPhone is a most worth while cause.  I love my 7+.  Go with the
 plus
 if you do upgrade.

> On Oct 18, 2016, at 6:49 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>
> Interesting developments to be. I know nothing about USB C but I
> usually
> go with the flow and so expect it probably will be an easy enough
> change
> to adapt to.
>
> The touch bar I find interesting too. We need someone to beta test
> hardware! Oh right. NDA. So much for that.
>
> My mid 2012 MBP still seems healthy whereas my bank account is not so
> a
> new Mac is not on my radar. A new iPhone has a better chance.
>
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> Without H2O there is no life!
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>
>> On 10/18/2016 10:03 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> Found this article on redmond pie and it seemed totally on topic to
>> discuss.  Includes expectations about the up coming release of the
>> laptops including the end of the MacBook air 11, the 12 Inch MacBook
>> taking the place of the 11 inch air, the continuation and upgrade of
>> the
>> MacBook air 13, and changes to the MacBook Pro..  The article notes
>> the
>> source has a hit and miss record with rumors, it does indicate that
>> it
>> matches other reports from more reliable sources so it seems worth
>> reading.  I’d be interested in comments, I’m not sure I like all the
>> proposed changes.
>>   The changes include an OLED light bar (I assume in place of
>> function
>> keys), no more mag safe adapter, no more USB, and what’s being
>> included
>> is USB-C (I do like this) (Thunderbolt 3 (Apple always has to provide
>> a
>> little bit different but proprietary port that’s a little faster,
>> just
>> because) and the power button has the fingerprint Censor (I like it).
>> What do you all think?
>>
>> Read more here.
>> http://www.redmondpie.com/2016-macbook-pro-still-on-track-for-october-launch-will-feature-usb-c-and-thunderbolt-3/
>>
>>
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I’m sure they will come up with what ever adapters you’ll need.  I’m surprised 
for example by the audio improvement on the iPhone 7 using the adapter with non 
Apple headphones and the included headset is also very good.

how cool would it be if you could plug in a high quality D/A convertor to your 
iPhone for recording maybe like someone said make  it part of a high end 
Microphone package. (I like that idea)

I just wonder myself about the removal of the traditional USB ports.  I still 
have a lot of cables that use that format not the least of which are all of my 
Apple devices.:)

I’m more curious about the light bar and how Voiceover will be addressed.

> On Oct 19, 2016, at 3:14 AM, Sandi Jazmin Kruse  wrote:
> 
> Hi, as a girl who got the Mac book, the one without respiration i can
> say that it is slower, way slower, however it is my main machine right
> as we speak for MS flightsim, which it runs relative fine.
> I am not sure that changing to Usbc is a good thing, but that is just
> me , as a Keytarist, that would make me think twice about getting the
> new mac book pro.
> 
> 
> On 10/18/16, David Chittenden  wrote:
>> There were no 7+ available, so I went with the 7 two days ago. I will
>> probably switch back to the + size iPhone next year. I do love my 7.
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>> Mobile: +61 488 988 936
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 19/10/2016, at 15:24, Scott Granados  wrote:
>>> 
>>> A new iPhone is a most worth while cause.  I love my 7+.  Go with the plus
>>> if you do upgrade.
>>> 
 On Oct 18, 2016, at 6:49 PM, E.T.  wrote:

 Interesting developments to be. I know nothing about USB C but I usually
 go with the flow and so expect it probably will be an easy enough change
 to adapt to.

 The touch bar I find interesting too. We need someone to beta test
 hardware! Oh right. NDA. So much for that.

 My mid 2012 MBP still seems healthy whereas my bank account is not so a
 new Mac is not on my radar. A new iPhone has a better chance.

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 Without H2O there is no life!
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> On 10/18/2016 10:03 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
> Found this article on redmond pie and it seemed totally on topic to
> discuss.  Includes expectations about the up coming release of the
> laptops including the end of the MacBook air 11, the 12 Inch MacBook
> taking the place of the 11 inch air, the continuation and upgrade of the
> MacBook air 13, and changes to the MacBook Pro..  The article notes the
> source has a hit and miss record with rumors, it does indicate that it
> matches other reports from more reliable sources so it seems worth
> reading.  I’d be interested in comments, I’m not sure I like all the
> proposed changes.
>   The changes include an OLED light bar (I assume in place of function
> keys), no more mag safe adapter, no more USB, and what’s being included
> is USB-C (I do like this) (Thunderbolt 3 (Apple always has to provide a
> little bit different but proprietary port that’s a little faster, just
> because) and the power button has the fingerprint Censor (I like it).
> What do you all think?
> 
> Read more here.
> http://www.redmondpie.com/2016-macbook-pro-still-on-track-for-october-launch-will-feature-usb-c-and-thunderbolt-3/
> 
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