Re: [maemo-developers] Cairo benchmarking

2005-10-27 Thread Clemens Eisserer
> For simple static images it not gonna be too much of a problem ( FP > API ) but in an animation where things are getting called over and > over again its pain :(. > > Its kind of dissapoiting cairo never got a fixed point api ( though it > probably would have seemed a little wierd to lucky FPU ow

Re: [maemo-developers] Warning. Installing Maemo Development Platform

2005-10-27 Thread Karoliina Salminen
Luca De Cicco wrote: >Hi there this is my first post on this ml. I'm quite sorry for the >subject of this post (it would have better if i'd announce release of >some package...) > >This day i downloaded Maemo Development Platform from the maemo website >and i was happy to know what was new and sudd

[maemo-developers] homearea background is white ?

2005-10-27 Thread wang baisheng
hi, my homearea background is white ? why ? regards. wang baisheng ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers

[maemo-developers] home_me_set_home_background error

2005-10-27 Thread wang baisheng
hi, When I click "home_app_home_name --> home_me_set_home_background", matchbox gvies the following error : (home:20457): libgnomevfs-CRITICAL **: gnome_vfs_uri_extract_short_path_name: assertion `uri != NULL' failed (home:20457): libgnomevfs-CRITICAL **: gnome_vfs_uri_get_host_nam

Re: [maemo-developers] Synchronization Application?

2005-10-27 Thread Jochen Eisinger
Hi, if installing these sync tools isn't really an option for you, there's an easy way to import ical formated calendar files into gpe-calendar. I've written a small script (http://c0ffee.org/stuff/conv.pl) that will convert an ical file to a series of sql commands. Run those using sqlite 2.x on a

Re: [maemo-developers] Cairo benchmarking

2005-10-27 Thread Matthew Allum
Hi; On 10/27/05, Kalle Vahlman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2005/10/27, Matthew Allum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Hey; > > > > Though internally cairo is mostly fixed point, its api is floating point - > > the 770 ( like most ARM devices ) lacks an FPU and thus any FP operations ( > > especially wit

Re: compatibility vs speed and bloat Re: [maemo-developers] gtk+ builtin stock icons removed

2005-10-27 Thread Frantisek Dufka
Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: Could you do some tests if basic maemo platform compiles with uclib and how much space it saves? Both static (file size) and dynamic (apps running). Maybe, but not in very near future. I still haven't got the device and when I get it I will try something easie

Re: [maemo-developers] Cairo benchmarking

2005-10-27 Thread Kalle Vahlman
2005/10/27, Matthew Allum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hey; > > Though internally cairo is mostly fixed point, its api is floating point - > the 770 ( like most ARM devices ) lacks an FPU and thus any FP operations ( > especially with hardfloat ) are slowww and really should be avoided. Yes, I'm pa

Re: [maemo-developers] Cairo benchmarking

2005-10-27 Thread Matthew Allum
Hey; Though internally cairo is mostly fixed point, its api is floating point - the 770 ( like most ARM devices ) lacks an FPU and thus any FP operations ( especially with hardfloat ) are slowww and really should be avoided. Also as yet cairo isn't heavily optimised and without any kind of su

Re: [maemo-developers] Cairo benchmarking

2005-10-27 Thread Koen Kooi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: > could you please try something using enlightenment Evas? > > It's supposed to be much faster than cairo. It's something entirely different, evas is a canvas (like gnomecanvas) and cairo is a nice way to use vector gr

[maemo-developers] Warning. Installing Maemo Development Platform

2005-10-27 Thread Luca De Cicco
Hi there this is my first post on this ml. I'm quite sorry for the subject of this post (it would have better if i'd announce release of some package...) This day i downloaded Maemo Development Platform from the maemo website and i was happy to know what was new and suddenly found out that all int

Re: compatibility vs speed and bloat Re: [maemo-developers] gtk+ builtin stock icons removed

2005-10-27 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
On 10/27/05, Frantisek Dufka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Eero Tamminen napsal(a): > >>I know this is pretty bold comment from me but if you think 30KB is > >>enough to break compatibility, why not to use uClibc instead of glibc or > >>ipkg packaging system from Familiar instead of full dpkg and .d

Re: [maemo-developers] Cairo benchmarking

2005-10-27 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
could you please try something using enlightenment Evas? It's supposed to be much faster than cairo. -- Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri --- Computer Engineer 2001 - UNICAMP GPSL - Grupo Pro Software Livre Cell..: +55 (19) 9165 8010 Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ#: 17

Re: compatibility vs speed and bloat Re: [maemo-developers] gtk+ builtin stock icons removed

2005-10-27 Thread Frantisek Dufka
Eero Tamminen napsal(a): I know this is pretty bold comment from me but if you think 30KB is enough to break compatibility, why not to use uClibc instead of glibc or ipkg packaging system from Familiar instead of full dpkg and .deb? Package database and tools don't consume RAM. Well they take

Re: [maemo-developers] flasher utility - new versions for MacOS X and PowerPCs running LInux

2005-10-27 Thread Johan Hedberg
On Thu, Oct 27, 2005, Sjoerd Simons wrote: > It crashes on my powerbook running Debian sid: > > # ./flasher.linux_ppc --query-rd-mode > Suitable USB device not found, waiting > *** glibc detected *** corrupted double-linked list: 0x10093568 *** > zsh: 32458 abort ./flasher.linux_ppc --query-r

[maemo-developers] Cairo benchmarking

2005-10-27 Thread Kalle Vahlman
Hola list! I started to write a little Cairo animation to better introduce myself to the wonders of it, and thought I'd do a little Cairo benchmarking with it on the 770. The setup: Compiled cairo 1.0.2 with vanilla settings, and copied to the device. Compiled my demo with -O3 The device was not

Re: [maemo-developers] flasher utility - new versions for MacOS X and PowerPCs running LInux

2005-10-27 Thread Sjoerd Simons
On Thu, Oct 27, 2005 at 12:07:06AM +0300, Ferenc Szekely wrote: > Hello, > > Big thanks to Johan and Onne: we have flasher runnning on MacOS X and on > Linux "powered" PowerPC. You can find them here (behind the bars;) : > http://maemo.org/downloads/d3.php It crashes on my powerbook running Debia

Re: [maemo-developers] Problem with Maemo's version of GTK

2005-10-27 Thread Clemens Eisserer
to be honest I am a bit sad since the question about changes to maemo's gtk turned into a discussion about the qemu version bundled with scratchbox ;-) Nevermind, however would be great if anybody could help me a bit with the GTK trouble *please* ;-) I really don't know any further :-( Thanks, lg

[maemo-developers] Fixing the stock icons issue

2005-10-27 Thread Tommi Komulainen
Hi, To get back to the problem.. The problem is that whether you use the builtin icons or not, the instant you load the first icon you get the 30k penalty per process. This shouldn't be necessary and the gtk+ team has said they'd be willing to consider a patch that changes the lookup priority so t

Re: [maemo-developers] Problem with Maemo's version of GTK

2005-10-27 Thread valtteri
On Thu, 27 Oct 2005, Timo Savola wrote: > On Thu, Oct 27, 2005 at 04:49:49PM +0300, Kaj Grönholm wrote: > > > One should not run applications inside QEMU arm emulation, as it does > > not work well enough for that (at least 0.9.8.4, later .5 and 1.0.x > > versions work a bit better). > > I've had

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: Flasher debs

2005-10-27 Thread Ferenc Szekely
ext Timo Steuerwald wrote: >>We can not provide the flasher anywhere else then behind the "License >>Acceptance" page. We can create a deb package however and put it there, >>but only there. >> >> >> > I don't understand where's the difference between the current way and > the common debian way:

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: Flasher debs

2005-10-27 Thread Timo Steuerwald
Ferenc Szekely wrote: Hello, ext Aleksandr Koltsoff wrote: On Thursday 27 October 2005 15:59, Aleksandr Koltsoff wrote: I agree with Timo on this one. Just came up with another package that could be placed in such repo. The documentation html-stuff. Would be nice

Re: [maemo-developers] Problems with Maemo developer rootfs

2005-10-27 Thread Laurent Lieben
Le 27 oct. 05 à 17:06, Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller a écrit : Hi, So I downloaded and installed the Maemo_Dev_Platform_rootfs_v1.1rc5.jffs2 update from http://www.maemo.org/downloads/d1.php, but now I am unable to access the 770 due to no input seeming to work anymore. Touching the screen

[maemo-developers] Problems with Maemo developer rootfs

2005-10-27 Thread Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller
Hi, So I downloaded and installed the Maemo_Dev_Platform_rootfs_v1.1rc5.jffs2 update from http://www.maemo.org/downloads/d1.php, but now I am unable to access the 770 due to no input seeming to work anymore. Touching the screen with the stylus only manages to get the backlight turned on, but apart

compatibility vs speed and bloat Re: [maemo-developers] gtk+ builtin stock icons removed

2005-10-27 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, > I know this is pretty bold comment from me but if you think 30KB is > enough to break compatibility, why not to use uClibc instead of glibc or > ipkg packaging system from Familiar instead of full dpkg and .deb? Package database and tools don't consume RAM. > I know Familiar distribution

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: Flasher debs

2005-10-27 Thread Ferenc Szekely
Hello, ext Aleksandr Koltsoff wrote: > On Thursday 27 October 2005 15:59, Aleksandr Koltsoff wrote: > >>I agree with Timo on this one. Just came up with another package that could >>be placed in such repo. The documentation html-stuff. Would be nice to be >>able to download the docs in proper /us

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: Flasher debs

2005-10-27 Thread Nils Faerber
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ferenc Szekely schrieb: > ext Timo Savola wrote: >>How about providing Debian packages (i386 and powerpc) of the flasher? >>It would be in line with the recommendation to use Debian or Ubuntu for >>development with maemo. Or would the (click-through)

compatibility vs speed and bloat Re: [maemo-developers] gtk+ builtin stock icons removed

2005-10-27 Thread Frantisek Dufka
Tommi Komulainen wrote: This message was brought to you by the performance police. The builtin stock icons compiled in the gtk+ library are causing extra >30k dynamic memory consumption regardless of whether they're ever used. In 770 all icons are coming from the icon theme anyway, so this is a c

Re: [maemo-developers] Problem with Maemo's version of GTK

2005-10-27 Thread Timo Savola
On Thu, Oct 27, 2005 at 04:49:49PM +0300, Kaj Grönholm wrote: > One should not run applications inside QEMU arm emulation, as it does > not work well enough for that (at least 0.9.8.4, later .5 and 1.0.x > versions work a bit better). I've had no problems running AF and other GTK+ apps with 0.9.

Re: [maemo-developers] Problem with Maemo's version of GTK

2005-10-27 Thread Clemens Eisserer
> One should not run applications inside QEMU arm emulation, as it does > not work well enough for that (at least 0.9.8.4, later .5 and 1.0.x > versions work a bit better). Well, of course I tested it on the real device since I got SigSev when running it using Qemu. Running it on the real device l

Re: [maemo-developers] Problem with Maemo's version of GTK

2005-10-27 Thread Kaj Grönholm
Hi, > although it works with the x86-version of maemo running in scatchbox, > sadly I was not able to run it on arm-emulation since it dies with > Signal11 (in fact any program that is a bit more complicated bahaves > strange when running in qemu). One should not run applications inside QEMU arm

Re: [maemo-developers] kernel sources

2005-10-27 Thread Komal Shah
--- Koen Kooi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Koen Kooi wrote: > > Paul Mundt wrote: > > > >>>On Fri, Oct 21, 2005 at 11:31:40AM +0200, Koen Kooi wrote: > >>> > >>> > Any news on the kernel sources? > >>> > >>> > >>>http://lkml.org/lkml/2005/1

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: Flasher debs

2005-10-27 Thread Aleksandr Koltsoff
On Thursday 27 October 2005 15:59, Aleksandr Koltsoff wrote: > I agree with Timo on this one. Just came up with another package that could > be placed in such repo. The documentation html-stuff. Would be nice to be > able to download the docs in proper /usr/share/doc-path when going on a > trip wit

Re: Superwaba Re: [maemo-developers] JamVM on 770 (Java)

2005-10-27 Thread Olivier Bornet
Hello, On Thu, Oct 27, 2005 at 12:09:02PM +0200, Frantisek Dufka wrote: > Just a warning. SuperWaba is very good but no longer free. Since version > 5.x authors invented new business model and started to charge for LGPLed > version (approx. 500$ per year). The version they call GPLed is still >

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: Flasher debs

2005-10-27 Thread Aleksandr Koltsoff
On Thursday 27 October 2005 15:49, Timo Savola wrote: > On Thu, Oct 27, 2005 at 03:42:04PM +0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Thu, 27 Oct 2005, Aleksandr Koltsoff wrote: > > > Other possibility is making a separate deb repo for tools that one > > > would find useful when developing on debian, b

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: Flasher debs

2005-10-27 Thread Timo Savola
On Thu, Oct 27, 2005 at 03:42:04PM +0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Thu, 27 Oct 2005, Aleksandr Koltsoff wrote: > > > On Thursday 27 October 2005 10:45, Ferenc Szekely wrote: > > > ext Timo Savola wrote: > > > > How about providing Debian packages (i386 and powerpc) of the flasher? > > > yes,

[maemo-developers] Problem with Maemo's version of GTK

2005-10-27 Thread Clemens Eisserer
Hello again, While playing a bit with classpath-based jvm's on my 770 I found a quite interresting problem I can't explain myself. When I try to create an offscreen-image in java I get the following assertion: jamvm[1625]: GLIB CRITICAL ** GLib-GObject - g_object_ref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (obje

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: Flasher debs

2005-10-27 Thread valtteri
On Thu, 27 Oct 2005, Aleksandr Koltsoff wrote: > On Thursday 27 October 2005 10:45, Ferenc Szekely wrote: > > ext Timo Savola wrote: > > > How about providing Debian packages (i386 and powerpc) of the flasher? > > yes, it is the license that prohibits us to distribute the tool in a > > debian repo

Re: [maemo-developers] flasher (Linux) doesn't find device

2005-10-27 Thread Alexandre Boeglin
Le Jeudi 27 Octobre 2005 13:38, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : > and only after that you switch the device on with the power button. Isn't there also a way to keep the device in usb mode ? I managed this once or twice by pressing and holding the home key while booting, but as soon as I release the

Re: [maemo-developers] Packet Telephony?

2005-10-27 Thread Andre Magalhaes
On 10/27/05, Komal Shah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- Andre Magalhaes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > is correct. No other open source telephony apps use GStreamer > > > (that I know of) and it looks like you'd have to hack it to make > > > it work on an n770 and a desktop from the same

My instructions (link) Re: [maemo-developers] flasher (Linux) doesn't find device

2005-10-27 Thread Karoliina Salminen
Hello, > i scrawled on maemo.org to find out information regarding the R&D mode > and the differences between R&D / Production mode. Some more information can be found from here: http://www.karoliinasalminen.com/blog/?page_id=68 Best Regards, Karoliina -- http://www.karoliinasalminen.com/blog

Re: [maemo-developers] gtk+ builtin stock icons removed

2005-10-27 Thread Kalle Vahlman
2005/10/27, Tommi Komulainen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > The only places where things might get broken is when the builtin stock > icon is the only piece of information provided to the user such as in > the toolbar in an appview - gtk+ toolbars should always have icon+text > information provided as per

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: Flasher debs

2005-10-27 Thread Aleksandr Koltsoff
On Thursday 27 October 2005 10:45, Ferenc Szekely wrote: > ext Timo Savola wrote: > > How about providing Debian packages (i386 and powerpc) of the flasher? > yes, it is the license that prohibits us to distribute the tool in a > debian repo. we could place the deb packages to the same place, but i

RE: [maemo-developers] flasher (Linux) doesn't find device

2005-10-27 Thread Weinehall David (Nokia-M/Tampere)
On tor, 2005-10-27 at 14:06 +0200, ext Martin Grimme wrote: > Hello, > > Am Donnerstag, den 27.10.2005, 14:38 +0300 schrieb > [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > > Yes, always start flashing by first turning off the device. > > Then you connect the usb cable, start flasher with parameters like > > (whatever you

RE: [maemo-developers] flasher (Linux) doesn't find device

2005-10-27 Thread Martin Grimme
Hello, Am Donnerstag, den 27.10.2005, 14:38 +0300 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > Yes, always start flashing by first turning off the device. > Then you connect the usb cable, start flasher with parameters like > (whatever you prefer), my usual parameters are: > ./flasher -F -f --enable-rd-mode --en

Re: [maemo-developers] gtk+ builtin stock icons removed

2005-10-27 Thread Florian Boor
Hi, Tommi Komulainen wrote: > There's probably a more simple solution to make stock icons work well; > just add "gtk-bold.png" and similarly named files in the hicolor icon > theme and things should just work. However the current solution works that's a good idea... expecially because you can shi

Re: [maemo-developers] flasher (Linux) doesn't find device

2005-10-27 Thread Laurent Lieben
If you want to set the device only to rd-mode, you don't need to flash, you can just type (you need to do the same thing though as described above): ./flasher --enable-rd-mode Karoliina, i scrawled on maemo.org to find out information regarding the R&D mode and the differences between R&D /

Re: [maemo-developers] gtk+ builtin stock icons removed

2005-10-27 Thread Philippe De Swert
Hi, > i don't think 30k is worth making it a major pain maintaining applications > which > support both plain GTK and Hildon UI. But that's my personal opinion. > In addition to this you loose a pile of convenient functions to deal with the > stock icons. UI guidelines (e.g. the Gnome HIG) sugges

RE: [maemo-developers] flasher (Linux) doesn't find device

2005-10-27 Thread Karoliina.T.Salminen
Hello, Yes, always start flashing by first turning off the device. Then you connect the usb cable, start flasher with parameters like (whatever you prefer), my usual parameters are: ./flasher -F -f --enable-rd-mode --enable-usb-host-mode --set-rd-flags=serial-console and only after that you swit

Re: [maemo-developers] gtk+ builtin stock icons removed

2005-10-27 Thread Tommi Komulainen
Let me reiterate the consequences of removing the builtin stock icons (not items, icons): it has no ill effect on stock menu items or stock buttons (the icon has always been considered optional, see gtk-button-images and gtk-menu-images GtkSettings.) The only places where things might get broken i

Re: [maemo-developers] Success: Network using PC BT Network Access Point

2005-10-27 Thread Johan Hedberg
On Thu, Oct 27, 2005, Ilkka Urtamo wrote: > PS. Anyone already working on the NAP support for gwconnect? If not, I > could take a look. AFAIK, no. However, I'm not so sure it even makes sense since there's already pand on the system. If you want to have a D-BUS interface for PAN the effort would

Re: [maemo-developers] kernel sources

2005-10-27 Thread Koen Kooi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Koen Kooi wrote: > Paul Mundt wrote: > >>>On Fri, Oct 21, 2005 at 11:31:40AM +0200, Koen Kooi wrote: >>> >>> Any news on the kernel sources? >>> >>> >>>http://lkml.org/lkml/2005/10/12/87 > > > I guess the dev program doesn't count as 'sale' or '

[maemo-developers] Success: Network using PC BT Network Access Point

2005-10-27 Thread Ilkka Urtamo
OK thanks to everyone who helped, I now have net using bt NAP. Here is how I did it (everything is by hand, I will try to automatize it later) Host PC: needed: bluez kernel, bluez lib & tools,iptables Using typical hcid.conf forwarding ready: iptables -F iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0

[maemo-developers] Re: can't find system-dbus-socket. How to deal with dbus ?

2005-10-27 Thread Florian Boor
Hello, wang baisheng wrote: > I have found it is the dbus that caues the problem. The > hildon-navigator > can't find /tmp/session-dbus-socket. Now I run /usr/bib/dbus-daemon-1 > --session &, then the hildon-navigator find the /tmp/seesion-dbus-socket. But > it then can't find /usr/var/r

Re: [maemo-developers] Packet Telephony?

2005-10-27 Thread Koen Kooi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Komal Shah wrote: > --- Andre Magalhaes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>>is correct. No other open source telephony apps use GStreamer >>>(that I know of) and it looks like you'd have to hack it to make >>>it work on an n770 and a desktop from the

Superwaba Re: [maemo-developers] JamVM on 770 (Java)

2005-10-27 Thread Frantisek Dufka
Just a warning. SuperWaba is very good but no longer free. Since version 5.x authors invented new business model and started to charge for LGPLed version (approx. 500$ per year). The version they call GPLed is still free but mostly only as in beer and the future is not bright. It works a bit li

Re: [maemo-developers] Packet Telephony?

2005-10-27 Thread Komal Shah
--- Andre Magalhaes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > is correct. No other open source telephony apps use GStreamer > > (that I know of) and it looks like you'd have to hack it to make > > it work on an n770 and a desktop from the same code base... > > assuming you had software plugins for the co

Re: [maemo-developers] Control Panel / Memory App crash after GPE install.

2005-10-27 Thread Koen Kooi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Martin Grimme wrote: > Hi, > > Am Donnerstag, den 27.10.2005, 11:17 +0200 schrieb Laurent Lieben: > >>after flashing back my device with the actual retail software, i >>could launch the Memory App flawlessly >>Thereafter, i reinstalled GPE-TODO / G

Re: [maemo-developers] Control Panel / Memory App crash after GPE install.

2005-10-27 Thread Clemens Eisserer
I experienced the same - I installed a simple self-made package withought any size-tag in the package's control file, it installed fine but after it the memory app crashed _once_. Although now it works like it should withought any problems. lg Clemens _

Re: [maemo-developers] Control Panel / Memory App crash after GPE install.

2005-10-27 Thread Martin Grimme
Hi, Am Donnerstag, den 27.10.2005, 11:17 +0200 schrieb Laurent Lieben: > after flashing back my device with the actual retail software, i > could launch the Memory App flawlessly > Thereafter, i reinstalled GPE-TODO / GPE-CONTACT and all belongings > libraries. > > Then, the Memory App from t

[maemo-developers] Control Panel / Memory App crash after GPE install.

2005-10-27 Thread Laurent Lieben
Hello, after flashing back my device with the actual retail software, i could launch the Memory App flawlessly Thereafter, i reinstalled GPE-TODO / GPE-CONTACT and all belongings libraries. Then, the Memory App from the control panel crash. does it have anything related with GPE installati

Re: [maemo-developers] gtk+ builtin stock icons removed

2005-10-27 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, >> My suggestion: Forget about this as long as you don't offer a similar >> feature to replace the builtin stock icons. My guess would be that Tommi has some long term plan to fix this properly when there's time. :-) >> It might be a good idea to >> modify GTK in a way that only the the sto

[maemo-developers] Re: Flasher debs

2005-10-27 Thread Ferenc Szekely
ext Timo Savola wrote: > How about providing Debian packages (i386 and powerpc) of the flasher? > It would be in line with the recommendation to use Debian or Ubuntu for > development with maemo. Or would the (click-through) license prohibit > that (or make it unfeasible)? > yes, it is the license

Re: [maemo-developers] JamVM on 770 (Java)

2005-10-27 Thread Clemens Eisserer
Hi Fabrício, > Your idea is very good. Thanks for the flowers ;-) > But there is a similar very good too. Visit > www.superwaba.com. I know superwaba and its a cool platform, however since my goal is to implement a J2ME "player" for the 770 (so the 770 will be able to run the tons of mobile gam