is that the private list shows up under the Public lists:
header in the response e-mail. I think that this private listing
should have a heading in the reply stating that it is private and is
listed because of the address used to access the command.
Dragon
Filters.
That way you still get the functionality of
holding/rejecting/discarding those messages without the list address
in the to: or cc: fields while still passing messages sent to the old address.
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handles Perl, Python, PHP, Java and a few other languages).
You can try it free and a personal license is pretty cheap.
http://www.activestate.com/
I don't work for them, I just love the software because it has made
my script programming a lot easier.
Dragon
an rpm from the
repository and install it and then maybe 20 minutes to configure
things and you should be going.
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to the list's admin page, go to Privacy Options and set advertised = yes.
That should do it.
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/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq01.026.htp
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the
approved: header method or you can add the administrator address to
the accept_these_nonmembers setting under the Privacy options-Sender
filters page.
Using the approved header is described in FAQ here:
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.011.htp
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There is a FAQ entry on this.
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.042.htp
And yeah, Gmail does some stinky things. (I am not a fan of web mail
in general, or even IMAP for that matter, give me a good MUA and POP3
and I am happy).
Dragon
by simply clicking the Subscribe radio
button and entering the addresses in the appropriate field. Is there
some reason why this won't work for you?
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.
If there is a Python module out there for escaping HTML strings, it
seems like it would be a fairly simple task to apply the escape
function while generating the output to the page.
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under the GNU
GPL. No warranty of any kind is given or implied.
Anyway, I hope some of you will find this useful.
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OK, so the attachment appears to have been stripped by the list. :-(
To get the tar file for the script viewer, please go here:
http://www.crimson-dragon.com/mmlog.tar.gz
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for that list to see if it throws an exception
or reports a problem.
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faster than attempting to resolve them over
the network every time.
Then again, I could be completely off here and something else is
causing the delay. I don't know Exim at all and sendmail only in the
barest manner so I cannot be much help beyond this.
Dragon
in the web interface.
The only other option as of now is to unsubscribe the user and then
re-subscribe him or her via the mass subscription interface. The big
problem with that approach is that it sets all user settings (digest,
mail delivery, etc.) to the list defaults.
Dragon
file for that list and it will be skipped.
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the logical
place to put it.
In the web interface for the list under Non-digest options, edit the
msg_footer setting. Under the digest settings, edit the text of digest_footer.
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virtual domains to
allow this conflict to resolve correctly but I do not know how to do this.
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by a filter rule and Mailman is doing the right thing.
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you are getting bit by a filter rule and Mailman is doing the right thing.
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I am certain it is the EXACT same message.
How do I know this?
The message ID's for the duplicate emails are exactly the same:
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Could this be a postfix issue? I don't think so
blank. Don't type a new-line
after the regexp.
Well, I think it would indeed result in an empty pattern which would
match everything. Sounds like you may have hit the cause.
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of content filtering or scrubbing? It could be
that after scrubbing of the mail message there are no valid parts left to send.
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-mail address that has a host part to pass as
well as any from the TLD without a host part.
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requires code
modifications, you are pretty much out of luck as there is no
standard configuration that will allow you to do what you wish.
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that is to happen.
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to them
as the mailman developers know little about what cPanel has done to
the mailman code base.
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.
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overrides for site specific options are supposed to go.
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should turn it up in no time.
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no way to trigger these actions.
Mailman knows nothing about whether you have accessed it or not. It
does not make a decision on when to send the password reminder on
anything other than whether you have enabled password reminders.
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that Hotmail is really bad about sending HTML only e-mails
instead of multipart mixed with a plain-text version. This caused a
great amount of frustration for one of my users until I was able to
deduce just what was going on.
Dragon
filtering, it will save you a
lot of frustration. At the very least, use gray-listing because the
vast majority of spam simply won't be resent when a deferral response
is sent from your MTA to the sender.
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John W. Baxter sent the message below at 09:25 11/10/2006:
On 11/10/06 9:07 AM, Dragon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You really should use the power of MTA filtering, it will save you a
lot of frustration. At the very least, use gray-listing because the
vast majority of spam simply won't
e-mail.
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these changes before or after setting up the list(s)?
If after, did you run fix_url on the list(s) to update their configuration?
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My 2-cents...
If the site or list admin can see these members through the
membership management interface (which they can), I see no reason why
they should not be able to see them through the method you are proposing.
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The mbox files are where the messages used to build the archive HTML
files reside.
If you remove them or edit them, you would not be able to rebuild
your archives the way they are if you ever had a need to do so.
Dragon
become publicly accessible if
a search matches one of your pages.
Which leads me to the next question... why not use something like
htdig or namazu for searching your site? These can be integrated into
mailman through a few patches and are relatively easy to set up.
Dragon
runner is not working, it would result in
the behavior you see.
Try the following command to see what qrunners are actually functioning:
ps aux | grep mailman
Have you tried a restart of mailman?
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,
registered subtypes of text, image, audio, and video should
not contain embedded information that is really of a different type.
Such compound formats should be represented using the multipart or
application types.
Dragon
to boost the error-reporting level in
your PHP script using the error_reporting function in your script to
get the level of detail you need.
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Benjamin Donnachie sent the message below at 15:22 9/18/2006:
Dragon wrote:
Is there some reason you would not want to run https on all of the lists?
I host a number of sites free of charge. While I don't mind offering
Mailman FoC, I feel that there are somethings users should pay
potential issues as possible.
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0.3 11800 6496 ?SSep06 0:00
/usr/bin/python /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=RetryRunner:0:1 -s
root 14080 0.0 0.0 3760 700 pts/0S+ 13:09 0:00 grep mailman
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.
Have you examined the qrunner, post, vette, smtp, and error logs? On
your system they should be located in /var/mailman/logs
If the posts are getting to your MTA, you will need to look at its
logs to see if you can find anything there.
Dragon
there.
This ought to be a FAQ entry, it's not the first time this issue has come up.
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the
motivation, go for it.
Dragon was right about the location of customized files:
/usr/local/mailman/lists/listname/language/. Alas, I don't have the
permissions to write to those dirs, so it's back to cut-and-paste on the web
site.
Well that is a problem. :-(
Can you get one of the server
there to a searchable
version of the list archives.
Look at the end of this post and you will find those links. There may
even be an answer to your question in the FAQ or archives.
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are vulnerable to attack.
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request with the developers of Firefox (or any other
similarly affected browser) is the right course of action.
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if that does work.
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and that your use of a program under
the license is entirely at your own risk.
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this?
reject=451 4.7.1 Greylisting in action, please come back in 00:10:00
If so, you need to get with their sysadmin and have them whitelist
your mailman server.
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Bretton Vine sent the message below at 08:47 AM 9/1/2006:
Dragon said the following on 2006/09/01 05:29 PM:
Have you actually read the GPL?
http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.txt
yes plus variations ;-)
There is such an obligation explicitly defined in it within section 3
that states
of their time
responding to queries here should be taken as what it is, another
gift to the community. I think they have gone above and beyond the
call of duty in this discussion and I am amazed at the restraint they
have shown.
Dragon
Bretton Vine sent the message below at 14:22 8/30/2006:
Dragon said the following on 2006/08/30 10:03 PM:
Oops... forgot to send my reply to the list too. Sorry about that
Bretton, I did not mean for you to receive it twice.
Not a problem, and thanks for the reply ;-)
However it doesn't solve
installed on your own machine. Similar scripts
can be devised in Perl, PHP or any other language that can retrieve a
web page and parse a text file.
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solution your provider is using).
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, it automatically converts them from the db format to the pck format.
So all you have to do is start (or restart) mailman via the
mailmanctl script and this will be done for you.
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with Redhat's
way of doing things.
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file
locations for mailman.
If everything goes well, it is literally less than 30 minutes to do
all of this and you only have to keep mailman and your MTA off line
for maybe 5 or 10 minutes.
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that in a separate message.
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Since the FAQ is open to contributions from anyone, you can go there
and add this in a new entry yourself.
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on a list to on or off in one operation.
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Dragon sent the message below at 14:30 8/25/2006:
Allan Trick sent the message below at 13:49 8/25/2006:
Sorry to post so many questions in the space of a week to this
list. I work at a school and all the changes we make to our mailing
lists tend to take place just once a year--now. So
for answers
followed by searching the list archives.
Links to both the FAQ and the archives are in the footer of every
e-mail posted to this list.
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goes off on a tangent and uses Reply-To in their MUA to post a new
message to the list? (People do these sorts of thing sometimes, there
is no way you can reliably account for them).
So you can see why I say they are on crack. Tell them to step back
and take a deep breath of reality.
Dragon
, and reset the setting if the
threshold is reached. You would then run that script as a cron job. I
don't know if there is a way to find the time somebody subscribed, I
don't think it is stored in the config.pck for the list but it may be
in a log somewhere.
Dragon
in disclosing e-mail addresses
to just anyone.
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those lists and this is how it generally ought to be.
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server they should be shown on
the new one if you copied the list config.pck files over.
To set display of these lists, you need to go to the list admin page,
select Privacy options, then on the Subscription rules page set
advertised = Yes.
Dragon
your archive
template files pages to include a link that points to the Old
Archives. You would still need to run bin/arch --wipe to get those
links to show up in the all of the new archive pages.
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,
open-subscription list is to get a new e-mail address. So you could
ban one e-mail address and this person could get another free account
at yahoo or msn or somewhere else and you are back where you started.
It can be quite maddening and frustrating.
Dragon
to get somebody with root access to do it or have an admin add
you to the appropriate group to allow it. The default user:group in
default install is mailman:mailman but that could have been changed
using configure when mailman was installed.
Dragon
-mail address.
So what it really comes down to is personal preference. If you like
the convention, use it. If not, then don't use it.
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to rewrite all
http: requests to https: requests.
Any ideas?
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You have to have cookies enabled in your browser. If you do not, it won't work.
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Tony Stocker sent the message below at 14:11 7/25/2006:
You have to have cookies enabled in your browser. If you do not,
it won't work.
Dragon
I do have cookies enabled, and just to doublecheck I turned off the
privacy settings and set it to allow all cookies but the results were
.
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My suggestion to minimize impact is to create a copy of the .mbox
file in another directory, edit it as needed. Shut down mailman, move
the file over to where it needs to be using the mv command. Restart mailman.
Better safe than sorry.
Dragon
it because if
it somehow becomes disclosed accidentally, there is much less
potential for damage by malicious people than with the administrator password.
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]
2. List name: Mailman
Description: Mailman site list
Requests to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- Unprocessed:
end
- Done.
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the script does but nothing on exactly how to use
it. I was thinking about using a cron job to call the inject script
to send a monthly list policy e-mail.
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Patrick Bogen sent the message below at 15:30 7/13/2006:
On 7/13/06, Dragon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just a quick question about using the inject script to put a message
in a list queue...
What exactly is the inject script expecting? As in what exactly is
the format of the file that gets fed
that can be done to prevent
spammers from sending, the best tactic that can be used today is a
good bayesian spam filter. But that is only part of the solution, it
also requires a conscientious administrator who is willing to take
the time to train it on both ham and spam.
Dragon
with
private archives that uses htdig to index the archive. There are a
few other search packages you can use and they are mentioned in the FAQ.
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Patrick Bogen sent the message below at 13:08 7/11/2006:
On 7/11/06, Dragon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Such obfuscation is virtually useless. It is a pretty trivial
exercise to write a Perl program to collect e-mail addresses from
such schemes (I could do it in a matter of less than an hour
] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ]
This example makes sense to me.
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And to me, it is clear and concise. It's also what I thought Brad
meant when he proposed it.
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of this forum.
There is an extensive FAQ with a search facility that would have
gotten you the answer you needed without the unpleasantness.
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hogs). It's probably a lot easier to create a shell
script to build and install new versions of mailman in however many
directories you need for the various copies you wish to run.
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that.
However, the .mbx files that Eudora uses are a slightly modified mbox
format and can be viewed easily with a text editor.
The easiest way to do this is to create a new mailbox in Eudora,
transfer the message to that mailbox and then open it in a text editor.
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and mailman can at least understand what is there. Whether
those edits are then lexically and logically correct is another story
altogether.
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to configure the permissions correctly.
But before you do that, I would very seriously recommend that you
rebuild and reinstall your mailman installation so it is not owned by
root before somebody trashes your machine.
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the correct
permissions and owner/group assigned.
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.
However, she e-mailed me a while ago to let me know that adding the
user to the mailman group and running the check_perms script fixed her problem.
So even though I was a bit mixed up there about the details, she did
get to where she needed to be.
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not recognize as valid. Without the fully
qualified domain name, the MTA has no idea if
somebody is trying to bounce spam off of it, it
needs it to verify that the mail is from an allowed sender.
This is a good thing.
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it means is that Mailman has sent the mail to the list on behalf
of the person posting.
I'm not sure why you consider this a problem, Mailman is not the only
application that manipulates this header, there are other mailing
list managers and MUAs that do it also.
Dragon
as a discussion list, then reply-to munging is
the easiest way to keep discussion ON the list.
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your list.
Those who want it will try to make sure they get it. Those who don't
will either unsubscribe or filter it out.
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the moderators administrator level access.
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of these documents by going here:
http://www.ietf.org/rfc.html
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