[Mailman-Users] Problem creating mailing lists via web interface in 2.1.11

2012-03-28 Thread Steve Matzura
It works just fine if I log in as root and use newlist, but if I try to create a new list via the web admin interface, two things happen. First, I get an error, whose text I do not have in front of me (I know, I know, first rule of error reporting, report the exact error, but you probably won't

Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem creating mailing lists via web interface in 2.1.11

2012-03-28 Thread Steve Matzura
12288 2012-03-28 19:07 aliases.db -rw-rw 1 root list 5830 2012-03-28 19:07 virtual-mailman -rw-r- 1 root list 12288 2012-03-28 19:07 virtual-mailman.db On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 01:52:45 +0900, you wrote: On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 9:34 PM, Steve Matzura sm...@noisynotes.com wrote: user unknown

Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem creating mailing lists via webinterface in2.1.11

2012-03-28 Thread Steve Matzura
12:28:27 -0700, you wrote: Mark Sapiro wrote: Steve Matzura wrote: and second, the aliases file is not updated, so if a subscriber tries to send a message to the list, they receive an auto-reply telling them user unknown in virtual mailbox table. My question is, why doesn't the web interface

Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem creating mailing lists via webinterface in 2.1.11

2012-03-28 Thread Steve Matzura
On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 12:46:48 -0700, you wrote: You need to 'chmod 660 /var/lib/mailman/data/virtual-mailman.db' It must be writable by the 'list group or it can't be updated by the web server running the create CGI. I did that and am still receiving the unknown virtual host error when

Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem creating mailing lists via webinterface in2.1.11

2012-03-28 Thread Steve Matzura
On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 16:24:07 -0500 (CDT), you wrote: On Wed, 28 Mar 2012, Steve Matzura wrote: It would *never* be in my best interest not to give you all the info. The problem is, I don't know exactly what info you need or want, and what would be superfluous. Let's see if I can provide more

Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem creating mailing lists via webinterface in2.1.11

2012-03-28 Thread Steve Matzura
patronus.theglobalvoice.info, which may have something to do with why the Web create doesn't work, but 'newlist' does. On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 18:19:29 -0500, you wrote: On Mar 28, 2012, at 4:40 PM, Steve Matzura wrote: On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 16:24:07 -0500 (CDT), you wrote: How about the error message you get when

Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem creating mailing lists via webinterface in2.1.11

2012-03-28 Thread Steve Matzura
On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 19:37:42 -0700, you wrote: Did I forget to check or report on anything? Well, you never answered the questions I asked at http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2012-March/073113.html so we don't know what was wrong there, but presumably, you don't care as you

[Mailman-Users] Install from repository, or build from source?

2014-06-04 Thread Steve Matzura
I am a site admin for a system built on Debian version 7 (Wheezy). The current available mailman package distribution version is 2.1.15 but I want to use 2.1.18-1, which means, unless I miss my guess, it's got to be built from source. If this isn't so, I'd greatly appreciate knowing where and how

[Mailman-Users] Moving Configurations and Lists to a New Server

2014-06-05 Thread Steve Matzura
Thanks to Steve Turnbull's help and some intelligent manual-reading, I have successfully built and installed version 2.1.18-1 on a Debian 7 (Wheezy) system. check_perms reports no problems, `version' reports the right version number, I'm ready for the next step, which is to move an entire

Re: [Mailman-Users] Moving Configurations and Lists to a New Server

2014-06-05 Thread Steve Matzura
(which is already underway) and then switch the DNS records after the new environment has been thoroughly tested. I'll check the wiki's you mentioned and report on progress when done. On Thu, 05 Jun 2014 08:09:52 -0700, you wrote: On 06/05/2014 04:27 AM, Steve Matzura wrote: I'm ready for the next

Re: [Mailman-Users] Moving Configurations and Lists to a New Server

2014-06-05 Thread Steve Matzura
On Thu, 05 Jun 2014 12:13:30 -0500, you wrote: On Thu, 2014-06-05 at 12:43 -0400, Steve Matzura wrote: This reply mechanism is driving me a little weird--the reply function sends the messages to their individual authors, not the list. I hope I'm not breeching etiquette by redirecting my reply

[Mailman-Users] Unknown Virtual Host question

2015-01-19 Thread Steve Matzura
I'm setting up a new Mailman implementation on a new machine that's a virtual copy of a running production machine. I'm expecting problems because I'm trying to use the same domain name in two places, and I absolutely understand that's not going to work, but the bottom line is, the faster I get

Re: [Mailman-Users] We're sorry, we hit a bug!

2015-01-10 Thread Steve Matzura
Well, on a new implementation, I'm getting the same thing in 2.18-1. What'd you do to fix it on your end? On Tue, 1 Jul 2014 17:33:19 +0200, you wrote: Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote: The above message indicates the traceback was written to some 'error' log, just not the one you're

[Mailman-Users] 18-1 Bug with Empty error logfile

2015-01-10 Thread Steve Matzura
I just brought up a new 2.1.18-1 installation and am geting the we're sorry but we encountered a bug page on theadmin interface. /var/log/mail/error is 0-length. Should I turn stealth mode off to get more info possibly? -- Mailman-Users mailing

Re: [Mailman-Users] 18-1 Bug with Empty error logfile

2015-01-10 Thread Steve Matzura
as it should be. All good now, and of course, many thanks. It's always the little things. On Sat, 10 Jan 2015 10:04:43 -0800, you wrote: On 01/10/2015 07:01 AM, Steve Matzura wrote: I just brought up a new 2.1.18-1 installation and am geting the we're sorry but we encountered a bug page on theadmin

[Mailman-Users] Trying to get mail working

2015-05-13 Thread Steve Matzura
I have charge of a very mixed system--current OS (Fedora 20--OK 21's out but I just haven't upgraded yet), current (or nearly so) Mailman (2.1.18-1), Postfix 2.10 with a configuration file sfrom something a lot older which I've run through the upgrade-configuration procedure, and old Dovecot

Re: [Mailman-Users] Trying to get mail working

2015-05-14 Thread Steve Matzura
On Wed, 13 May 2015 23:19:45 +0900, Steve Turnbull wrote: Dovecot and Mailman should be mostly independent of each other, while both depend crucially on Postfix. The first thing to do is to find the log files for each application, and test that mail works for all combinations of inside and

Re: [Mailman-Users] Permissions error

2015-07-03 Thread Steve Matzura
Mark: On Thu, 02 Jul 2015 17:07:21 -0700, you wrote: The smpt log is now clean. Newest message is ten minutes older than the current date and time. I suspect running check_perms fixed everything. Does a 'subscribe' email get delivered to Mailman? That could have been a permissions issue,

Re: [Mailman-Users] Permissions error

2015-07-03 Thread Steve Matzura
On Thu, 02 Jul 2015 16:46:00 -0700, you wrote: On 07/02/2015 09:23 AM, Steve Matzura wrote: On Thu, 02 Jul 2015 08:23:23 -0700, you wrote: Mailman is sending a notice to the 'mailman' list and it's undeliverable. That doesn't look like a 'bounce' log message. It looks more like 'post' log

[Mailman-Users] Permissions error

2015-07-02 Thread Steve Matzura
I have a new Mailman implementation connected to Postfix which is in turn connected to Dovecot. These two components are working correctly, as I have mailboxes set up with them and have created a test Mailman mailing list and received confirmation that it has in fact been created. Now I'm

[Mailman-Users] Unable to access Mailman Web interface

2015-07-02 Thread Steve Matzura
If I browse to http://{my-node.my-domain.com}/mailman/admin, I get the following: Bug in Mailman version 2.1.18-1 Bug in Mailman version 2.1.18-1 We're sorry, we hit a bug! Please inform the webmaster for this site of this problem. Printing of traceback and other system information has been

Re: [Mailman-Users] Nightly Messages Show Problems

2015-07-04 Thread Steve Matzura
This should have gone to the list instead of where it went. On Sat, 04 Jul 2015 07:45:07 -0700, Mark Shapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote: These occur because you have installed a crontab which has been formatted as a system crontab and intended to be installed in a place like /etc/cron.d/mailman as a

Re: [Mailman-Users] Unable to access Mailman Web interface

2015-07-04 Thread Steve Matzura
On Sat, 04 Jul 2015 07:22:43 -0700, Mark wrote: Mailman has two main configuration paths, $prefix for immutable code, etc. and $var_prefix for mutable data. By default, $var_prefix = $prefix, but in your case, you or the packager whose package you installed configured mailman with

Re: [Mailman-Users] Unable to access Mailman Web interface

2015-07-04 Thread Steve Matzura
On Sat, 04 Jul 2015 08:54:44 -0700, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote: The RedHat/Centos package is even more complex. See the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/8486953. Thanks. Noted and saved for future reference. -- Mailman-Users mailing list

Re: [Mailman-Users] Nightly Messages Show Problems

2015-07-04 Thread Steve Matzura
On Sat, 04 Jul 2015 09:11:54 -0700, you wrote: On 07/04/2015 08:27 AM, Steve Matzura wrote: On Sat, 04 Jul 2015 07:45:07 -0700, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote: These occur because you have installed a crontab which has been formatted as a system crontab and intended to be installed

Re: [Mailman-Users] Permissions error

2015-07-02 Thread Steve Matzura
On Thu, 02 Jul 2015 08:23:23 -0700, you wrote: On 07/02/2015 07:56 AM, Steve Matzura wrote: I have a new Mailman implementation connected to Postfix which is in turn connected to Dovecot. These two components are working correctly, as I have mailboxes set up with them and have created a test

Re: [Mailman-Users] Permissions error

2015-07-02 Thread Steve Matzura
On Thu, 02 Jul 2015 08:23:23 -0700, you wrote: Mailman is sending a notice to the 'mailman' list and it's undeliverable. That doesn't look like a 'bounce' log message. It looks more like 'post' log. What's in the 'smtp-failure' log? Jul 02 16:12:13 2015 (1308)

Re: [Mailman-Users] Unable to access Mailman Web interface

2015-07-02 Thread Steve Matzura
On Thu, 02 Jul 2015 08:24:12 -0700, you wrote: On 07/02/2015 07:56 AM, Steve Matzura wrote: If I browse to http://{my-node.my-domain.com}/mailman/admin, I get the following: Bug in Mailman version 2.1.18-1 Bug in Mailman version 2.1.18-1 We're sorry, we hit a bug! Please inform

[Mailman-Users] Learning to use withlist

2015-07-03 Thread Steve Matzura
What's the best section of the standard documentation or the wiki to consult in order to learn how to correctly use withlist? -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman

Re: [Mailman-Users] Unable to access Mailman Web interface

2015-07-03 Thread Steve Matzura
On Thu, 02 Jul 2015 16:39:36 -0700, you wrote: After check_perms fixed all problems, I re-ran it and got this: Warning: Private archive directory is other-executable (o+x). This could allow other users on your system to read private archives. If you're on a shared

[Mailman-Users] Nightly Messages Show Problems

2015-07-04 Thread Steve Matzura
I guess things are getting better with my new mailman implementation, as I received nine messages overnight I've never gotten before. four are Errno 13 permission denied, five only contain one line: /bin/sh: mailman: command not found The subject fields of these five all begin with the same text

Re: [Mailman-Users] Unable to access Mailman Web interface

2015-07-04 Thread Steve Matzura
On Fri, 03 Jul 2015 06:50:58 -0700, you wrote: $prefix/archives and the private/ and public/ sub-directories thereof are created on installation, and if Mailman is running there must be a 'mailman' site list and thus $prefix/archives/private/mailman/ and $prefix/archives/private/mailman.mbox/

Re: [Mailman-Users] Learning to use withlist

2015-07-04 Thread Steve Matzura
On Fri, 03 Jul 2015 06:38:49 -0700, you wrote: If you mean what can you do interactively after invoking withlist on a list and have a '' prompt, see https://wiki.python.org/moin/BeginnersGuide#Learning_Python for the Python part. For the Mailman specific stuff, You need to understand what list

Re: [Mailman-Users] Nightly Messages Show Problems

2015-07-06 Thread Steve Matzura
On Sat, 04 Jul 2015 09:11:54 -0700, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote: In your case, the RedHat package has modified Mailman's crontab.in to be a system crontab and already installed it in /etc/cron.d/. It did, but the file is virtually empty (only three or four comment lines warning not to

[Mailman-Users] No luck on the overnights

2015-08-11 Thread Steve Matzura
I'm now thinking none of the overnight cron jobs are running. I set digest mode to a couple lists, posted to them, then modified the digest job's run time from 12:00 every day to a minute or two from current time, waited ten minutes, and got nothing in response. Then I did the same for the monthly

[Mailman-Users] mailpasswd failure

2015-08-01 Thread Steve Matzura
With some excellent help, all my Mailman problems up to today have been solved. and my mailing lists have been behaving normally. Since it's a new month, mailpasswd ran earlier this morning. The email of the cron job reported a permissions error on one of the config.pck files for one of the lists.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Permissions error on all Mailman overnights

2015-08-09 Thread Steve Matzura
On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 18:47:29 -0700, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote: On 08/08/2015 06:22 PM, Steve Matzura wrote: On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 12:39:19 -0700, Mark asked: What does groups mailman report? It should be 'mailman : mailman'. If so, and the crons are getting permission problems

Re: [Mailman-Users] Permissions error on all Mailman overnights

2015-08-09 Thread Steve Matzura
On Sun, 09 Aug 2015 08:44:56 -0700, Mark wrote: On 08/09/2015 08:25 AM, Steve Matzura wrote: No errors on the overnights, Things appear to be working correctly. I'm trying to run the password reminder job now, /var/log/messages shows it started twenty-three minutes ago, I haven't received

[Mailman-Users] Permissions error on all Mailman overnights

2015-08-08 Thread Steve Matzura
Every night, I get the following error at the bottom of a mail message to my mailman list telling me that checkdbs, digest and disabled failed: IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/usr/local/mailman/locks/mailman.lock.{my-FQDN}.{some-number}.0' This also happened on the one and only password

Re: [Mailman-Users] Permissions error on all Mailman overnights

2015-08-08 Thread Steve Matzura
On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 09:19:27 -0700, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote: On 08/08/2015 08:12 AM, Steve Matzura wrote: Every night, I get the following error at the bottom of a mail message to my mailman list telling me that checkdbs, digest and disabled failed: IOError: [Errno 13] Permission

Re: [Mailman-Users] Permissions error on all Mailman overnights

2015-08-08 Thread Steve Matzura
On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 12:39:19 -0700, Mark asked: What does groups mailman report? It should be 'mailman : mailman'. If so, and the crons are getting permission problems, check if SELinux is enabled and if so, try disabling it. It's mailman : mailman postfix, and SELinux is disabled according to

[Mailman-Users] Wrong perms?(fwd) Cron mailman@patronus /usr/lib/mailman/cron/nightly_gzip

2015-07-09 Thread Steve Matzura
After solving my cron confusions, I get these messages daily: Subject: Cron mailman@{mynode} /usr/lib/mailman/cron/checkdbs ... IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/var/lock/mailman/mailman.lock.{mynode}.{mydomain.com}.7552.0' Subject: Cron mailman@{mynode} /usr/lib/mailman/cron/disabled

Re: [Mailman-Users] Wrong perms?(fwd) Cron mailman@patronus /usr/lib/mailman/cron/nightly_gzip

2015-07-10 Thread Steve Matzura
On Thu, 09 Jul 2015 08:00:38 -0700, Mark wrote: On 07/09/2015 06:48 AM, Steve Matzura wrote: After solving my cron confusions, I get these messages daily: Subject: Cron mailman@{mynode} /usr/lib/mailman/cron/checkdbs ... IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/var/lock/mailman

Re: [Mailman-Users] Nightly Messages Show Problems

2015-07-07 Thread Steve Matzura
On Mon, 06 Jul 2015 19:17:23 -0700, you wrote: RedHat's /etc/init.d/mailman copies the cron/crontab.in to /etc/cron.d/mailman. So if you start Mailman via 'service mailman start', the crontab in crontab.in will be installed. At least that's the way I *think* it works. Ask RedHat or look at the

Re: [Mailman-Users] Nightly Messages Show Problems

2015-07-07 Thread Steve Matzura
On Tue, 07 Jul 2015 07:11:40 -0400, Mark wrote: RedHat's /etc/init.d/mailman copies the cron/crontab.in to /etc/cron.d/mailman. So if you start Mailman via 'service mailman start', the crontab in crontab.in will be installed. It's done in the Mailman service definition, which means the crontab

[Mailman-Users] cron log looks odd

2015-09-01 Thread Steve Matzura
I get Mailman job logs that look like this: Sep 1 08:00:01 {my_node} CROND[29280]: (mailman) CMD (/usr/bin/python -S /usr/local/mailman/cron/checkdbs^M) Sep 1 09:00:01 {my_node} CROND[30120]: (mailman) CMD (/usr/bin/python -S /usr/local/mailman/cron/disabled^M) Sep 1 12:00:01 {my_node} atronus

Re: [Mailman-Users] cron log looks odd

2015-09-01 Thread Steve Matzura
On Tue, 1 Sep 2015 10:24:24 -0700, you wrote: >On 09/01/2015 10:00 AM, Steve Matzura wrote: >> I get Mailman job logs that look like this: >> >> Sep 1 08:00:01 {my_node} CROND[29280]: (mailman) CMD (/usr/bin/python >> -S /usr/local/mailman/cron/checkdbs^M) >>

[Mailman-Users] Message may contain ... administrivia?

2015-09-30 Thread Steve Matzura
Well now I've seen everything. Why would Mailman send a return message to a subscriber to a mailing list that says their message couldn't be posted to the mailing list because "message may contain administrivia"? -- Mailman-Users mailing list

Re: [Mailman-Users] Message may contain ... administrivia?

2015-10-02 Thread Steve Matzura
Guilty as charged. On several counts. Oy! On Thu, 01 Oct 2015 08:56:57 +0200, you wrote: >In a message of Thu, 01 Oct 2015 01:35:02 -0400, Steve Matzura writes: >>Well now I've seen everything. Why would Mailman send a return message >>to a subscriber to a mailing list that say