[Mailman-Users] Has anybody installed mailman on Solaris 9?

2004-12-01 Thread Shubham Saxena
I have to install mailman on Solaris 9. Can anybody help me out?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem Installing on Solaris 10

2006-04-03 Thread Kent Taylor
Thank you Mark. I get an option --without-extension not recognized error.
/kpt
 



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To: Kent Taylor; mailman-users@python.org
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem Installing on Solaris 10



Kent Taylor wrote:

I'm attempting to install Mailman 2.1.8b1 on Solaris 10 - configure works - 
make works - make install does not. I checked the lists and found that I'm 
not the only person to have this problem - Unfortunately, the other person's 
solution was to revert to Solaris 8 - I really don't want to do that. The 
make install error is command 
'/sgnome/tools/x86-solaris/forte/SOS8/SUNWspro/bin/cc' failed with exit status 
2 trying to compile src/hangul.c - Any assistance would be appreciated. 
Thank you.

I'm only guessing as a workaround that might not work or might cause
other problems, but if you look at misc/Makefile in the unpack
directory, you'll see

SHELL=  /bin/sh
PYTHONLIBDIR=   $(prefix)/pythonlib
SETUPINSTOPTS=  --install-lib $(DESTDIR)$(PYTHONLIBDIR) \
--install-purelib $(DESTDIR)$(PYTHONLIBDIR) \
--install-data $(DESTDIR)$(PYTHONLIBDIR)
SETUPCMD=   setup.py --quiet install $(SETUPINSTOPTS)
PKGDIR= $(srcdir)

Try adding a line to SETUPINSTOPTS so it becomes

SETUPINSTOPTS=  --install-lib $(DESTDIR)$(PYTHONLIBDIR) \
--install-purelib $(DESTDIR)$(PYTHONLIBDIR) \
--without-extension \
--install-data $(DESTDIR)$(PYTHONLIBDIR)

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[Mailman-Users] Problem Installing on Solaris 10

2006-04-03 Thread Kent Taylor
I'm attempting to install Mailman 2.1.8b1 on Solaris 10 - configure works - 
make works - make install does not. I checked the lists and found that I'm 
not the only person to have this problem - Unfortunately, the other person's 
solution was to revert to Solaris 8 - I really don't want to do that. The make 
install error is command 
'/sgnome/tools/x86-solaris/forte/SOS8/SUNWspro/bin/cc' failed with exit status 
2 trying to compile src/hangul.c - Any assistance would be appreciated. 
Thank you.
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[Mailman-Users] Installation on Solaris 10

2006-04-03 Thread Kent Taylor
I'm attempting to install Mailman 2.1.8b1 on Solaris 10 - configure works - 
make works - make install does not. The problem seems to a Python issue - I 
checked the Python lists and found that I'm not the only person to have this 
problem - Unfortunately, the other person's solution was to revert to Solaris 8 
- I really don't want to do that. The make install error is command 
'/sgnome/tools/x86-solaris/forte/SOS8/SUNWspro/bin/cc' failed with exit status 
2 trying to compile src/hangul.c - Any assistance would be appreciated. 
Thank you.
/kpt
 
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[Mailman-Users] Mailman installation on Solaris 10 crashes

2007-02-01 Thread vancleef
A couple of weeks ago there were two or three posts about Mailman
crashing on install of the Japanese and Korean Codecs.  I swapped some
offlist E-mails with Barry Sapiro and told him that I would
investigate this for him when I did a fresh install of Solaris 10 
on a box to be used as a Mailman mail server.

Accordingly, this afternoon I did a default Jumpstart install of 
the Solaris 10 entire package on an Ultra 60 and added a gcc 3.3
development system from a Solaris Software Companion disk.  One 
additional item was to set the install default path to pick up 
needed directories that are not included in the Solaris base install.

PATH=$PATH:/usr/ccs/bin:/usr/sfw/bin:/usr/local/bin:/opt/sfw/bin

The last three directories in that order are significant.  

I did a build and install of Python 2.5 in /usr/local, and configured
Mailman with the needed mail and cgi gid statments, then ran a make.

Make install failed.  The key section in the installation output is
this:

(cd ./$p ; umask 02 ; PYTHONPATH=/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib
/usr/sfw/bin/p
ython setup.py --quiet install --install-lib
/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib  --ins
tall-purelib /usr/local/mailman/pythonlib  --install-data
/usr/local/mailman/pyt
honlib); \
done
/usr/sfw/lib/python2.3/distutils/dist.py:213: UserWarning: 'licence'
distribution option is deprecated; use 'license'
  warnings.warn(msg)
/usr/ucb/cc:  language optional software package not installed
error: command '/usr/sfw/lib/python2.3/pycc' failed with exit status 1
*** Error code 1
make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `install-packages'
Current working directory /usr/local/src/mailman-2.1.9/misc

WHOOPS!  What is with the very clear /opt/sfw/lib/python2.3 when I
just installed 2.5 and put it in /usr/local/bin?  

Yes, Sun has included an older version of Python in the Solaris 10
distribution.  To build and install with a locally-built Python, 
you have to put --with-python=/path/to/python as a flag to the
configure script.  Doing so produced a clean make and install.

Note that while the fact that the wrong version of Python is not
clearly evident until the installation crashes, the make step is also
done with the same version.  

As of this writing, I don't know what issues this raises for Mailman
at runtime.  Nor do I know what issues are raised if the offending 
packages are removed.  The actual version reported is 2.3.3, and
pkginfo includes the notation GNOME, so the runtime, at least, has
some involvement if you are using the gnome desktop.  

An additional (and very well-known) Solaris gotcha is the error line

/usr/ucb/cc:  language optional software package not installed

Evidently, the Solaris Python looks for a cc in the path.
/usr/ucb/cc is simply a stub that most Solaris sysadmins rename or
move after installation.  The Sun Studio 11 native compiler is
probably compatible with it, but there is still the objection to 
using an older Python.  

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem Installing on Solaris 10

2006-04-03 Thread Mark Sapiro
Kent Taylor wrote:

I'm attempting to install Mailman 2.1.8b1 on Solaris 10 - configure works - 
make works - make install does not. I checked the lists and found that I'm 
not the only person to have this problem - Unfortunately, the other person's 
solution was to revert to Solaris 8 - I really don't want to do that. The 
make install error is command 
'/sgnome/tools/x86-solaris/forte/SOS8/SUNWspro/bin/cc' failed with exit status 
2 trying to compile src/hangul.c - Any assistance would be appreciated. 
Thank you.

I'm only guessing as a workaround that might not work or might cause
other problems, but if you look at misc/Makefile in the unpack
directory, you'll see

SHELL=  /bin/sh
PYTHONLIBDIR=   $(prefix)/pythonlib
SETUPINSTOPTS=  --install-lib $(DESTDIR)$(PYTHONLIBDIR) \
--install-purelib $(DESTDIR)$(PYTHONLIBDIR) \
--install-data $(DESTDIR)$(PYTHONLIBDIR)
SETUPCMD=   setup.py --quiet install $(SETUPINSTOPTS)
PKGDIR= $(srcdir)

Try adding a line to SETUPINSTOPTS so it becomes

SETUPINSTOPTS=  --install-lib $(DESTDIR)$(PYTHONLIBDIR) \
--install-purelib $(DESTDIR)$(PYTHONLIBDIR) \
--without-extension \
--install-data $(DESTDIR)$(PYTHONLIBDIR)

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on Solaris8

2001-05-04 Thread Barry A. Warsaw


 LM == Len Merikanto [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

LM Retried everything if i do everything from the scratch.
LM ie install mailman and do not upgrade it.
LM just install from scratch it works.

LM then when i copt all files from mailman dir on freebsd move
LM them to solaris reisntall mailman like upgrade it everything
LM goes wrong.

LM and i get that error. also tried only just copy lists from
LM lists dir of freebsd mailman and the mm_cfg.py from Mailman
LM dir into solaris i get it halfly working. i can see listinfo
LM but cannot admin nor do anything to lists.

Did you try going to the shell prompt, running Python interactively,
and typing in that Python code?  What do you get for that?

I would suggest that you do a fresh install on Solaris, then if you
want to move the `lists' subdir from FreeBSD, that should work.

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[Mailman-Users] Mailman installation on Solaris 10

2009-01-13 Thread Hank van Cleef
I'm beginning to replace the Mailman 2.1.9 installation on Solaris 9
Sparc, which has served us very well for the last two years.   The new
target machines are Sun Ultra 60's, one running Solaris 10-u4 (8/07)
and the other, Solaris 10-u6 (10/08).  All that is on either machine
is a fresh install of Solaris (full install).

While I've been through the drill of building and installing both
Python and Mailman on Solaris before, I have a few obsrvations and
questions.

I went through the Mailman web page to find a download site.  Going to
Sourceforge offers only 2.12.rc1 unless you click stable on the
first screen.  I was unable to download either 2.1.11 or 2.1.12 from
Sourceforge.  That site links to Superb Hosting, which appears to be
unresponsive.  I had to get the software from the alternative GNU
site.

Both of the Solaris installs include Python 2.4.4.  Whether the
Solaris build is something resembling a full build or not, I don't
know, but will soon find out unless someone has checked this out
before me.  In the past, getting anything resembling a full build of
Python on Solaris has been a labor of love (porting the build
scripts), and I'd prefer not to have to build and install another
version of Python.  

I see Mark Sapiro's mail about incompatibility between 2.1.12rc1 and
Python 2.4.  

My production installations have to have an archive search (not part
of Mailman).  In the past, we've used htDig 3.1.6, which is decidedly
long in tooth, particularly as it requires gcc/g++ 2.95.3 to build
(will not build with gcc 3 or above).  For one installation, I'll
filch the already-built binaries.  

However, I'll reopen the question of a better (and currently-maintained) 
search engine.  I'm aware of a mail list discussing using Mhonarc and
Mnogosearch, but nothing since the last posts to that site (early
2006).   Is there something newer and better, or is doing the porting
work needed to use Mnogosearch the best alternative available?  One
issue with the current 2.1.9 installation is performance while
searching archives with htDig.  We currently have 5gb of archives, and
archive searches are very popular with our listers. 

I have picked up the patches for htDig-Mailman integration for 2.1.11
and assume I'm on my own for 2.1.12, for the present.  

Unless somebody tells me otherwise, I'll assume that I'm the first
installing 2.1.12 on Solaris 10.  That will go on the later (current
rev) machine.  Worth noting that on Solaris 10 10/08, it appears that
sun has included the Studio 12 development system, with the c compiler
in /usr/bin/cc.  While our old nemesis, the BSD stub /usr/bin/cc is
still there, a PATH that has /usr/bin before /usr/ucb should find a
working cc. 

The config.pck files currently on the production system are for 2.1.9.
If I build 2.1.11 and 2.1.12 as fresh builds and installs (no upgrade)
and later copy my 2.1.9 config.pck files into them, will Mailman
detect and correct the configuration?  

Any notes, comments, advice greatly appreciated.

Hank
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Re: [Mailman-Users] install problem python 2.2 on solaris 7

2002-02-25 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner

Alex Chavez wrote:

 I'm not able to install Python 2.2 on a solaris 7 os5.7 sparc box. Can
 anyone help? The output and error msg are below:

This is a Python problem, and you've posted to Mailman's user list.  You
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browse its newsgroup news:comp.lang.python

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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman setup

2002-02-03 Thread Kelemen Zoltan

Idzet sunny [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I am not able to continue...as i have executed 
 make install  on a solaris 2.8,and when i try
 accessing webservername.domain/mailman it says file
 not found...pls help..

make install is not enough to do the job. You have to manually config your 
webserver too, and then some other stuff. Read INSTALL carefully... there's 
quite a lot to do :(

 zOLtaN

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman installation on Solaris 10 crashes

2007-02-03 Thread vancleef
 
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 Hash: SHA1
 
 On Feb 2, 2007, at 1:25 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  crashing on install of the Japanese and Korean Codecs.  I swapped some
  offlist E-mails with Barry Sapiro and told him that I would
 
 I'm almost afraid to ask who Barry Sapiro is.  Is that some kind of  
 mashup of me and Mark?  :)
 
And another WHOOPS!  Another over-the-hill geezer special.  But
since I saw the backside of the big 70 a while back, I suppose I'm
entitled to one once in a while.  

  WHOOPS!  What is with the very clear /opt/sfw/lib/python2.3 when I
  just installed 2.5 and put it in /usr/local/bin?
 
 I would additionally make sure /usr/local/bin is first on your $PATH.
 
There is a great deal of discussion (and some religious fervor) on the
Solaris newsgroups about having (or refusing to have) a /usr/local
directory on a Solaris system.   The anti faction has some very strong
points.  Putting the /usr filesystem on its own filesystem mounted
read-only is a good security measure.  I bypass the arguments by
putting /usr/local on its own filesystem.  

A better PATH layout for Solaris 9 or 10 would probably end with 
/usr/ccs/bin:/usr/local/bin:/opt/sfw/bin:/usr/sfw/bin  
Those directories all have to be added locally to the Solaris
distribution defaults.  

Sun has moved to including more and more of what was known to Unix
developers as the GNU suite in Solaris in the /usr/sfw directory,
with some GNU things (bash, gzip) in /usr/bin.  Time was (Solaris
2.5.1) that the GNU suite was all add-on from packages on the bonus
software companion disk.  

What I'm working out is a suitable layout for a Solaris 10
development system that requires a minimum of jiggery-pokery for 
compiling various open source software packages.  The system that
actually runs Mailman in production is a different 
minimally-configured hardened-up Solaris box.  A lot of this is
OS-specific and site-specific, and probably discussion here should be
limited to getting Python and Mailman installed.

  An additional (and very well-known) Solaris gotcha is the error line
 
  /usr/ucb/cc:  language optional software package not installed
 
  Evidently, the Solaris Python looks for a cc in the path.
  /usr/ucb/cc is simply a stub that most Solaris sysadmins rename or
  move after installation.  The Sun Studio 11 native compiler is
  probably compatible with it, but there is still the objection to
  using an older Python.
 
 It's actually probably the Makefile that's finding /usr/ucb/cc.   
 Pretty well-known failure mode on Solaris.  Make sure a usable C  
 compiler (either named gcc or cc wink) is first on your $PATH.
 
No doubt.  What I posted was the result of some offlist discussions I
had with Mark about problems building Mailman on Solaris that were 
posted here a week or so ago.  I offered to investigate a few of these
on a fresh install of Solaris 10 11/06 before I had fully configured 
the box to my normal layout.  Ultimately, that box will be configured
to use the Sun development system (Studio 11, has cc and CC wink).

There are decisions that a Solaris administrator has to make, such as
whether to download and compile sendmail, apache, and bind; or to use
the Sun distribution versions.  I think that the decision is clear 
about Python---download and build your own, and configure your system
so that it is the Python of choice on your site.  (I'll note in
passing that I didn't like the looks of the additional compiling in
the Python install, and am going to go back to revisit that).  

Hank 
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[Mailman-Users] mailman setup

2002-02-03 Thread sunny

I am not able to continue...as i have executed 
make install  on a solaris 2.8,and when i try
accessing webservername.domain/mailman it says file
not found...pls help..
regs
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem with Installing Mailman 2.1.9 on Solaris 10

2007-04-04 Thread vancleef
The esteemed David Devereaux-Weber has said:
 
 Hank,
 
 Thanks for your help!
 
 I installed Python 2.4.4.  I did receive errors that tcl and something 
 else didn't install.  Now, the Mailman install script still finds 
 /opt/csw/lib/python2.3/distutils/dist.py:213 .  Can you tell me where 
 Python 2.4.4 puts the distutils?
 
 Dave
 
If you built python 2.4.4 to install in /usr/local, you should have a
/usr/local/lib/python2.4 directory that has the distutils in it.  

I assume you're building Mailman 2.1.9 from downloaded source; if not,
I recommend you do that, rather than using somebody else's prebuilt
source.  

Make sure the correct python is in your PATH.  If you've already built
Mailman with the /opt/csw python2.3, do a make clean, rerun configure,
make, and make install on Mailman.  

As I've said, /opt/csw is not a Solaris 10 directory, but is used by
one or more of the package prebuilders.  I would do an audit on what
is in that directory and pkgrm anything you don't actually need on
your system.  

Using the Solaris release sendmail and apache works well, but I'd
build Python 2.4.4 and Mailman 2.1.9 from source.  The default gid for
sendmail is other and for apache is nobody, for the Mailman
configure script on Solaris 9/10.

Hank

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Re: [Mailman-Users] 2.1 Install Issues

2003-01-04 Thread David LeVine
I don't claim to be a developer, however, the following change to
misc/Makefile.in works in my testing:

-- cut here -
diff misc/Makefile.in-2.1 misc/Makefile.in
78c78,81
   $(INSTALL) -m $(FILEMODE) $(ICONS) $(ICONDIR)
---
   for i in $(ICONS); \
   do \
   $(INSTALL) -m $(FILEMODE) $$i $(ICONDIR); \
   done
-- cut here -

I hope that is sufficient help.  Thanks!

David

 Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 11:44:19 -0500
 To: David LeVine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] 2.1 Install Issues
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Barry A. Warsaw)
 
  DL == David LeVine [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 DL I think the Solaris make does support wildcarding, perhaps
 DL with slightly different syntax...:^)
 
 Maybe you can help figure out the right syntax for Solaris make?
 
 -Barry

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem with Installing Mailman 2.1.9 on Solaris 10

2007-04-02 Thread David Devereaux-Weber
Hank,

Thanks for your help!

I installed Python 2.4.4.  I did receive errors that tcl and something 
else didn't install.  Now, the Mailman install script still finds 
/opt/csw/lib/python2.3/distutils/dist.py:213 .  Can you tell me where 
Python 2.4.4 puts the distutils?

Dave

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The esteemed David Devereaux-Weber has said:
   
 I'm having a problem with building mailman 2.1.9 on Solaris 10.  No problems 
 with configure or make, but make install breaks.

 Here is an extract:

 /opt/csw/lib/python2.3/distutils/dist.py:213: 
 

 There's your problem.
   
 Does anyone see something here?

 
 You're using the wrong Python.  I don't know where you got this Python
 (/opt/csw is not a Solaris 10 directory), but it's behaving the same
 as the Python 2.3 that is in the Solaris 10 distribution installed in
 /usr/sfw.  My recollection is that /opt/csw is being used by one or
 more prebuilt services who have religious tabus about using
 /usr/local, and presume you've downloaded a prebuilt Python package
 and installed it.  

 Download the Python 2.4.4 source (not 2.5 or later), configure, and
 build that.  It will not build completely, but what doesn't build
 (tcl and the ssl functions) isn't needed for Mailman.  Solaris 10
 comes with gcc 3.4.2 in /usr/sfw/bin, which can be used to build both
 Python and Mailman.  

 When you've got Python 2.4.4 built and installed, use which python
 to make sure it's the first one in your path.  
 /usr/local/bin/python

 Also, on a Solaris system (all versions), I strongly recommend
 renaming /usr/ucb/cc to something else so that configure scripts don't
 think the system has a working cc.  That particular cc is a shell
 script stub that is there for historical reasons dating from the
 original SVR4 specification in 1988.  

 If you have downloaded and installed the Sun development system
 (Studio 11 is the current marketing name for it) that installs by
 default in /opt/SUNWspro, use that cc and CC instead of the GNU stuff.
 Note that you'll have to force the configure scripts not to use gcc
 when you run them.  

 Hank 

   
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1.[56] installation problem w/ KoreanCodecs

2007-01-06 Thread Frank Cusack
Hi, found this message back from 2005/11/28:

 make install dies with
 (cd ./$p ; umask 02 ; PYTHONPATH=/home/mailman/2.1.5/pythonlib
 /usr/local/bin/python setup.py --quiet install --install-lib
 /home/mailman/2.1.5/pythonlib  --install-purelib
 /home/mailman/2.1.5/pythonlib  --install-data
 /home/mailman/2.1.5/pythonlib); \
 done
 /usr/local/lib/python2.4/distutils/dist.py:222: UserWarning: 'licence'
 distribution option is deprecated; use 'license'
   warnings.warn(msg)
 src/hangul.c:33: error: syntax error before numeric constant
 src/hangul.c:34: error: syntax error before numeric constant
 error: command 'gcc' failed with exit status 1
 *** Error code 1

 This happens with either 2.1.5 or 2.1.6, various versions of
 Python as well.  It's on Solaris 10 with Sun's bundled gcc
 (/usr/sfw/bin/gcc).

 Rather furstrating.  Is there an easy way to just skip these
 codecs i have no use for?

I came across the same problem with mailman 2.1.9 and thought I'd
share my solution.

This is due to a bug in Solaris 10 headers.  signal.h includes
sys/regset.h which pollutes the macro namespace (if you will)
with definitions for x86 registers, like GS and SS.  This is only
on Solaris/x86; Solaris/sparc doesn't have this error.

Before running configure, I do this:

# work around solaris bug
# http://forum.java.sun.com/thread.jspa?threadID=5074551
gtar zxf misc/KoreanCodecs-2.0.5.tar.gz
perl -i -pe 's/GS, N/MYGS, N/; s/CODE.GS./CODE(MYGS)/;
 s/SS, N/MYSS, N/; s/CODE.SS./CODE(MYSS)/;' \
  KoreanCodecs-2.0.5/src/hangul.c
gtar zcf misc/KoreanCodecs-2.0.5.tar.gz KoreanCodecs-2.0.5

The tarball has to be unpacked and repacked because 'make' unpacks
it.  If you unpack it and patch it, without repacking it, 'make'
will overwrite your changes when it unpacks it again.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] 2.1 Install Issues

2003-01-04 Thread Barry A. Warsaw

 DL == David LeVine [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

DL I think the Solaris make does support wildcarding, perhaps
DL with slightly different syntax...:^)

Maybe you can help figure out the right syntax for Solaris make?

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[Mailman-Users] installation on solaris

2004-03-31 Thread Lenny Shovsky
Hi everybody.

I'm trying to install mailman on solaris. It builds fine and
creates subdirectories in /usr/local/mailman/, but stops with permission 
errorswhen trying to copy files to those directories. Which is kind of 
strange, because the directory has group write permissions and the user
'make installing' is in that group.

Also I have a question about the web interface. Is setting ScriptAliases
to cgi-bin in mailman directory enough to get that working or is there a 
step missing from the readmes ?

thank you in advance

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest options - list configuration

2008-08-08 Thread Hank van Cleef
The esteemed Brad Knowles has said:
 
 On 8/7/08, Mark Sapiro wrote:
 
   After some off list back and forth, Alan determined that the problem was
   that the mailman user had /bin/false as a login shell. Once that was
   changed, the script worked as expected.
 
 Was this on a Solaris box?  I've had problems with them lately not 
 allowing cron jobs to run under a specific userid, even if they were 
 in the /etc/cron.allow list, unless the user had a valid password 
 hash and a valid shell.
 
 One of the more screwed-up things I've seen from a Solaris box 
 lately, I tell you
 
Nothing particularly screwed up about Solaris as a platform for
mailman.  When setting up the mailman account, set up the account as a
normal account, then use vipw to edit /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow. 
Just delete specification of any shell from the passwd line.

Shadow line should look like:
mailman:NP:::

The letters NP in the password hash field are important.  But there
are already plenty of examples in the file for you to follow.

When setting up the crontab, and changing it, su from root to mailman,
and follow the Solaris instructions.  They are in the man pages.  

You don't need to fuss with cron.allow and cron.deny to get cron to
process the mailman crontab.  

Just because:
Solaris isn't Linux, and sendmail isn't Postfix, isn't a reason to
call either one of them screwed up.  The Mailman build-install
instructions work just fine on Solaris/sendmail, if you pay attention
to doing things the Solaris way, and treat Mailman as just another 
sendmail user on an existing and functioning sendmail installation.

julie:vancleef:$ uptime
  9:54am  up 194 day(s), 17:24,  3 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.01,
0.02

It would be longer than that if we hadn't had a power outage shutown
last winter.

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[Mailman-Users] configure mailman on Solaris 8

2002-09-05 Thread George Crum

Hello,
I'm having trouble getting configure to run on a Solaris 8 server.  Here is
the configure command that I issue and the resulting error.

./configure --prefix=/export/home/mailman --with-mail-gid=25
--with-cgi-gid=1004

checking for --with-var-prefix... no
checking for --with-username... mailman
checking for mailman UID... Traceback (most recent call last):
  File conftest.py, line 1, in ?
import pwd, string
ImportError: No module named pwd
cat: cannot open conftest.out

configure: error: 
* No mailman user found!
* Your system must have a mailman user defined
* (usually in your /etc/passwd file).  Please see the INSTALL
* file for details.

I have created the user mailman and a group called mailman.  Plus created
the home directory /export/home/mailman.

Has anyone out there compiled Mailman on Solaris 8?

- George Crum

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[Mailman-Users] Solaris 10 and Python

2011-01-21 Thread McNutt Jr, William R
Has anyone successfully made this work on a Sun Solaris 10?  I've been at this 
for three days and no matter what I do, I only manage to change error messages. 
 At this point I've made it through the ./configure step, but it's breaking on 
make install.

It's a Sun Fire x4100 running solaris 10.  I've got mailman 2.1.14 and python 
2.6.2

If you've made it work under that configuration and are willing so show off 
your 'leet skills helping me deal with this, please shoot me a note at 
mcn...@utk.edumailto:mcn...@utk.edu.

Bill
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem with Installing Mailman 2.1.9 on Solaris

2007-04-09 Thread vancleef
The esteemed David Devereaux-Weber, P.E. has said:
 
 Hank,
 
 I'm still not succeeding in building Mailman.  I'd like to follow 
 another path.  Can you explain why Tcl/TK don't build?  The Python make 
 install command fatals there, and doesn't complete copying some of the 
 modules into the right places.
 
 Dave
 
You're running into problems I haven't encountered, if you can't
install Python without tcl and ssl.  I'd suggest clearing the build
and install directories, doing a fresh unpack of the Python sources, 
and running through the build process again.  My recollection is that
both Python and Mailman will build with the gcc 3.4.2 that is in the
Solaris 10 distribution /usr/sfw directory tree, but that you have to
do some jiggery-pokery with LD_RUN_PATH, LD_LIBRARY_PATH, or crle to
get the builds to find the GNU libraries.  My installations were built
with the Sun development system (Studio 11, installs in
/opt/SUNWspro), so I haven't explored the implications of running with
a GNU build on Solaris 10 very far.

Why Python won't build with the extensions in Solaris is that the
build process doesn't look in /opt/sfw.  I've done enough porting
exploration to see that a fix involves adding a search to those
directories in setup.py (in the Python build base directory), but
haven't explored everything I need to know to assure that I've got an
appropriate fix.  Some queries to the Python users and Python
developers mail lists didn't produce meaningful results, and I'm left
with the feeling that yer on yer own with Python reliability.  What
I can tell you is that my builds of Python 2.4.4 and 2.5, using the
Sun devsys, and without doing any porting work, install and support
Mailman on my systems.  

I'd suggest capturing the outputs of the configure and make steps and
reviewing them.  Also, the various log, makefile, and status files that 
configure generates.  I'm not really prepared to wear a Python
developer hat and try to work Python-on-Solaris problems beyond
getting a Python that will support Mailman.

Hank
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman installation on Solaris 10 crashes

2007-02-02 Thread Barry Warsaw
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On Feb 2, 2007, at 1:25 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 crashing on install of the Japanese and Korean Codecs.  I swapped some
 offlist E-mails with Barry Sapiro and told him that I would

I'm almost afraid to ask who Barry Sapiro is.  Is that some kind of  
mashup of me and Mark?  :)

 WHOOPS!  What is with the very clear /opt/sfw/lib/python2.3 when I
 just installed 2.5 and put it in /usr/local/bin?

I would additionally make sure /usr/local/bin is first on your $PATH.

 An additional (and very well-known) Solaris gotcha is the error line

 /usr/ucb/cc:  language optional software package not installed

 Evidently, the Solaris Python looks for a cc in the path.
 /usr/ucb/cc is simply a stub that most Solaris sysadmins rename or
 move after installation.  The Sun Studio 11 native compiler is
 probably compatible with it, but there is still the objection to
 using an older Python.

It's actually probably the Makefile that's finding /usr/ucb/cc.   
Pretty well-known failure mode on Solaris.  Make sure a usable C  
compiler (either named gcc or cc wink) is first on your $PATH.

- -Barry

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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman install problem - Solaris

2007-01-23 Thread Piniella, David A
 

No dice, I tried that with gcc and yacc. Is there any way to just avoid
the Japanese and Korean codecs packages' compilation, or to skip them
entirely? I don't really need to host any lists in Japanese or Korean
(or do these packages do something else?)

-Original Message-
From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 5:09 PM
To: Piniella, David A; Hank van Cleef
Cc: mailman-users@python.org; Kent Taylor
Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] mailman install problem - Solaris

Piniella, David A wrote:


Thanks for you help, guys. Actually, I checked the Makefile in 
/usr/local/mailman (my $prefix), and /usr/local/mailman/src/Makefile 
and they both have CC=3D gcc. I have deleted the Makefiles, 
config.cache  config.status, rerun ./configure (my specific options 
are --prefix, --with-cgi-gid, --with-mailhost and --with-urlhost) and 
re-run make and make install. I keep getting the error on make install.

For laughs, since I saw the Makefile had the full path in the PYTHON=3D

line, I put the full path to gcc in the CC=3D line, re-ran configure 
and it still fails.


Yeah, I realized the problem after I sent my last reply. The problem is
in the 'make install'. The install target runs the install target of
misc/Makefile which in turn runs install-packages which installs the
email, JapaneseCodecs, and KoreanCodecs packages. This install starts by
unzipping and expanding the .tar.gz files containing the packages and
then running the setup.py file from the package. Part of the
KoreanCodecs package requires compilation of C modules.

I think this is where you and other Solaris users run into difficulty.

I'm not really an expert on this, but perhaps if you put a symlink to
your gcc named cc somewhere on your path before running make install,
this will do it.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman install problem - Solaris

2007-01-23 Thread Mark Sapiro
Piniella, David A wrote:


Thanks for you help, guys. Actually, I checked the Makefile in
/usr/local/mailman (my $prefix), and /usr/local/mailman/src/Makefile and
they both have CC=3D gcc. I have deleted the Makefiles, config.cache 
config.status, rerun ./configure (my specific options are --prefix,
--with-cgi-gid, --with-mailhost and --with-urlhost) and re-run make and
make install. I keep getting the error on make install. For laughs,
since I saw the Makefile had the full path in the PYTHON=3D line, I put
the full path to gcc in the CC=3D line, re-ran configure and it still
fails.


Yeah, I realized the problem after I sent my last reply. The problem is
in the 'make install'. The install target runs the install target of
misc/Makefile which in turn runs install-packages which installs the
email, JapaneseCodecs, and KoreanCodecs packages. This install starts
by unzipping and expanding the .tar.gz files containing the packages
and then running the setup.py file from the package. Part of the
KoreanCodecs package requires compilation of C modules.

I think this is where you and other Solaris users run into difficulty.

I'm not really an expert on this, but perhaps if you put a symlink to
your gcc named cc somewhere on your path before running make install,
this will do it.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman install problem

2007-01-23 Thread Hank van Cleef
The esteemed Piniella, David A has said:
 
 Hi,
 
 I'm trying to install mailman 2.1.9 on a Solaris 10 x86 machine and I'm
 running into problems with make install.
 I have no cc installed, I am using GCC 3.4.5 which I've installed from
 blastwave.org; python is 2.3.5. 
 
 I've searched the archives of the list and hit up google to no avail,
 any suggestion(s) or hints would be most appreciated, I'm ready to scrap
 this install. I don't know if it's something funky in Sol10's make or
 maybe mailman's expecting gcc to be cc (see unable to execute cc: No
 such file or directory \ error: command 'cc' failed with exit status 1
 -- I did NOT specify the --with-gcc=no option during the configure).

(snippity snippity)
 
 /opt/csw/lib/python2.3/distutils/dist.py:213: UserWarning: 'licence'
 distribution option is deprecated; use 'license'
   warnings.warn(msg)
 unable to execute cc: No such file or directory
 error: command 'cc' failed with exit status 1
 make[1]: *** [install-packages] Error 1
 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/mailman/misc'
 *** Error code 2

You're probably seeing what's a well-known problem with Solaris using
GNU-type configure and Makefile generation.  Easy to fix.

The cc that some makefile is finding is probably /usr/ucb/cc in the 
Solaris install. That is a stub that does nothing.  Rename it to cc.bsd.

On a Solaris site, you have to set up PATH as a post-install operation.
Most Solaris admins have a post-install script for doing this.  

Do a check, using the which command.  which gcc should point to the path
where the gcc you want to use is located, and do a version check.   

Then do a which cc.  Unless you have Studio 11 installed, you should get
a not found return.  The Studio 11 compiler resources are in
/opt/SUNWspro/bin if they are installed.  

You may have to locate the offending Makefile or rerun configure to
recover, but try make install first, after assuring that nothing can
find /usr/ucb/cc.

Hank

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem with Installing Mailman 2.1.9 on Solaris 10

2007-04-08 Thread David Devereaux-Weber, P.E.
Hank,

I'm still not succeeding in building Mailman.  I'd like to follow 
another path.  Can you explain why Tcl/TK don't build?  The Python make 
install command fatals there, and doesn't complete copying some of the 
modules into the right places.

Dave

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The esteemed David Devereaux-Weber has said:
 Hank,

 Thanks for your help!

 I installed Python 2.4.4.  I did receive errors that tcl and something 
 else didn't install.  Now, the Mailman install script still finds 
 /opt/csw/lib/python2.3/distutils/dist.py:213 .  Can you tell me where 
 Python 2.4.4 puts the distutils?

 Dave

 If you built python 2.4.4 to install in /usr/local, you should have a
 /usr/local/lib/python2.4 directory that has the distutils in it.  
 
 I assume you're building Mailman 2.1.9 from downloaded source; if not,
 I recommend you do that, rather than using somebody else's prebuilt
 source.  
 
 Make sure the correct python is in your PATH.  If you've already built
 Mailman with the /opt/csw python2.3, do a make clean, rerun configure,
 make, and make install on Mailman.  
 
 As I've said, /opt/csw is not a Solaris 10 directory, but is used by
 one or more of the package prebuilders.  I would do an audit on what
 is in that directory and pkgrm anything you don't actually need on
 your system.  
 
 Using the Solaris release sendmail and apache works well, but I'd
 build Python 2.4.4 and Mailman 2.1.9 from source.  The default gid for
 sendmail is other and for apache is nobody, for the Mailman
 configure script on Solaris 9/10.
 
 Hank

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Re: [Mailman-Users] 2.1 Install Issues

2003-01-03 Thread David LeVine
 Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 02:00:46 -0500
 To: David LeVine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] 2.1 Install Issues
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Barry A. Warsaw)
 
 DL On most directories, each file to be installed is enumerated
 DL and installed within a loop, however, for the icons directory,
 DL the Makefile seems to rely on wildcard matching.  That may not
 DL be a valid assumption.
 
 Could be a GNU Make-ism.  Maybe Solaris's make doesn't do wildcarding?
 (It's been too long since I've been on Solaris and I'm too tired right
 now to look it up. ;).

I think the Solaris make does support wildcarding, perhaps with slightly
different syntax...:^)

 DL On the line that installs the template subdirectories, the
 DL 'install-sh -c' line has '-m 644 instead of '-m 664', so that
 DL may also be a Makefile issue.
 
 That's correct for the files inside the template subdirs.
 
 DL As for the messages subdirectories, those appear to be created
 DL with simple calls to mkdir rather than install and they don't
 DL appear to have permissions being set at all.
 
 Actually, both should be created by the mkinstalldirs script in the
 top level source directory.
 
 I'll have to try to find some time to build Mailman on the Solaris box
 in the SF compile farm.

Thanks for the time and the support...

 -Barry

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem with Installing Mailman 2.1.9 on Solaris 10

2007-03-25 Thread vancleef
The esteemed David Devereaux-Weber has said:
 
 I'm having a problem with building mailman 2.1.9 on Solaris 10.  No problems 
 with configure or make, but make install breaks.
 
 Here is an extract:
 
 /opt/csw/lib/python2.3/distutils/dist.py:213: 

There's your problem.
 
 Does anyone see something here?
 
You're using the wrong Python.  I don't know where you got this Python
(/opt/csw is not a Solaris 10 directory), but it's behaving the same
as the Python 2.3 that is in the Solaris 10 distribution installed in
/usr/sfw.  My recollection is that /opt/csw is being used by one or
more prebuilt services who have religious tabus about using
/usr/local, and presume you've downloaded a prebuilt Python package
and installed it.  

Download the Python 2.4.4 source (not 2.5 or later), configure, and
build that.  It will not build completely, but what doesn't build
(tcl and the ssl functions) isn't needed for Mailman.  Solaris 10
comes with gcc 3.4.2 in /usr/sfw/bin, which can be used to build both
Python and Mailman.  

When you've got Python 2.4.4 built and installed, use which python
to make sure it's the first one in your path.  
/usr/local/bin/python

Also, on a Solaris system (all versions), I strongly recommend
renaming /usr/ucb/cc to something else so that configure scripts don't
think the system has a working cc.  That particular cc is a shell
script stub that is there for historical reasons dating from the
original SVR4 specification in 1988.  

If you have downloaded and installed the Sun development system
(Studio 11 is the current marketing name for it) that installs by
default in /opt/SUNWspro, use that cc and CC instead of the GNU stuff.
Note that you'll have to force the configure scripts not to use gcc
when you run them.  

Hank 


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[Mailman-Users] One more try......

2002-07-02 Thread Con Wieland

I could really use some help.

Can someone help me (or point me to)  with directions on how to use the 
patch updates on solaris. So I don't have to do the complete install. I 
looked through the archives and FAQ's but couldn't find anything (what 
did I miss).

TIA
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[Mailman-Users] make install failure

2008-06-29 Thread Vidiot
OK, the Solaris 10 box is operational, in that root is the only user and I'm
getting things up and running.  While my user account exists, none of my
personal stuff is there yet, as it is in a state of flux.  Once I bring the
system on line, then I copy over all the home directory files, etc.

In the meantime, I'm getting programs like mailman up and running.  I've
already replaced sendmail with exim, even getting it hooked into Solaris 10
smf control.

Based on the previous discussion, I've replaced the stock python 2.4.4 on the
box with a freshly compiled and installed 2.5.2 version.

The configure script runs without error, as does the initial make.  BTW,
the install manual has an error:

Page 4: % cd mailman-version
% ./configure
% make install

The make install should be just make.  Gotta make it before you can
install it. :-)

In any event, the following error occurs when trying to install:

(cd ./$p ; umask 02 ; PYTHONPATH=/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib 
/usr/local/bin/python setup.py --quiet install --install-lib 
/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib  --install-purelib /usr/local/mailman/pythonlib  
--install-data /usr/local/mailman/pythonlib); \
done
/usr/local/lib/python2.5/distutils/dist.py:247: UserWarning: 'licence' 
distribution option is deprecated; use 'license'
  warnings.warn(msg)
src/hangul.c:33: error: syntax error before numeric constant
src/hangul.c:34: error: syntax error before numeric constant
error: command 'gcc' failed with exit status 1
*** Error code 1
make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `install-packages'
Current working directory /usr/local/src/mailman-2.1.11rc2/misc
*** Error code 1
The following command caused the error:
for d in bin cron misc Mailman scripts src templates messages tests; \
do \
(cd $d; make DESTDIR= install); \
done
make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `doinstall'


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[Mailman-Users] Errors installing mailman-2.0.13 / Python-2.2.1 / Solaris 8

2002-09-29 Thread Friedman, Jeff
Title: Errors installing mailman-2.0.13 / Python-2.2.1 / Solaris 8 





./configure returns errors installing mailman-2.0.13 with Python-2.2.1 under the Solaris 8 operating environment, Ultra 5.

The initial errors I encounter were with the UID and group ID checking.
I fixed these by following the advice from the post below: 
Re: [Mailman-Users] Solaris install problem



David Sammons [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DS 
You have a module pwd in python2.../Modules/Setup which it's commented, just uncomment that and
re-compile python and if it's necessary MM too... 


But the odd this is that with Python 2.2.1, it should auto-detect and automatically build the pwd module, without hacking Setup. If id doesn't do that, then there's a problem with the Python build process, but I didn't see that when I built it on SourceForge's compile farm. -Barry

==


Now the script runs until this point: 


checking for mail wrapper GID... 60001
checking for CGI wrapper GID... 60001
checking for CGI extensions... no
Traceback (most recent call last):
 File conftest.py, line 2, in ?
 from socket import *
 File /usr/local/lib/python2.2/socket.py, line 41, in ?
 from _socket import *
ImportError: No module named _socket
 pwd


Anyone have an idea how to edit the /Python-2.2.1/Modules/Setup file, or should I look for another combination of source codes?

Thank you,


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on Solaris-based web server

2004-10-21 Thread Mauricio Tavares
Mark Sapiro wrote:
John Wheaton wrote:
 

I am curious whether Mailman will work on Solaris, and how best to  
integrate it with our current web site. Our school maintains an  
informational website at www.stfrancishighschool.com, hosted by IgLou in  
Louisville. We have been discussing with a few alumni the possibility of  
creating mailing lists for the alums, and Mailman seems like a good  
solution. We have also looked into Majordomo, which IgLou will administer  
for additional monthly charges. We would like to save money.

Can Mailman be installed alongside our website? In other words, is it self  
contained? Can its bin and lib files, for example, be installed in our web  
directory, and still allow Mailman to function?
   

Mailman can be installed under Solaris in your own virtual domain on
your web host, but it requires (probably root) access to the shell on
the server to do it and to integrate it with the web server and MTA on
the host. I.e. IgLou will probably have to do it for you and will
probably charge you for the installation and maybe for monthly use as
well.
To see what's involved in installing Mailman, go to
http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/mailman/mailman/INSTALL?only_with_tag=Release_2_1_5view=markup
 

   Adding to the mess, I am running mailman right now with postfix in a
Solaris 8 box.  Besides my own errors (I am working on that ;), I had no
problems getting it to work. I literally set it to do postfix (and
postfix to do it), typed ./config and off it went.  Compiler used was
gcc. So, if you need someone to harass, that much I may be able to help. =)
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on Solaris-based web server

2004-10-21 Thread Mauricio Tavares
John Wheaton wrote:
Hello,
I am curious whether Mailman will work on Solaris, and how best to  
integrate it with our current web site. Our school maintains an  
informational website at www.stfrancishighschool.com, hosted by IgLou 
in  Louisville. We have been discussing with a few alumni the 
possibility of  creating mailing lists for the alums, and Mailman 
seems like a good  solution. We have also looked into Majordomo, which 
IgLou will administer  for additional monthly charges. We would like 
to save money.

Can Mailman be installed alongside our website? In other words, is it 
self  contained? Can its bin and lib files, for example, be installed 
in our web  directory, and still allow Mailman to function?
   What you are asking is exactly what I am planning on doing here.  We 
have a mail server (Solaris 8 box) which is currently being used as 
mailman's website.  What we are going to do is to NFS mount the mailman 
directory in our webserver (a Solaris 9 box) so it can be accessed 
there. Probably, the best way to do it is kinda like what you infered: 
install mailman in the webserver and then automount the data 
directories. I'll be playing with that and keep you all posted with my 
adventures.

Our other possible solution is to host the mailing lists on one of our 
own  Linux servers, if the app cannot be installed on our host's 
server. Since  we run Exchange Server, I am trying to simplify matters 
by hosting the  mailing lists offsite, though.

Thanks for your help.
John Wheaton,
Technology Coordinator
St. Francis High School
233 W. Broadway
Louisville, KY 40202


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[Mailman-Users] How to integrate HTDIG when installing with Yum

2011-06-30 Thread Rosenbaum, Larry M.
I am about to install Mailman on a RHEL6 system using Yum.  How do I integrate 
HTDIG with it?

I have previously done HTDig integration on an install from source on Solaris, 
which involved a bunch of patching, I'm relatively new at Linux, but I suspect 
there is a better way to do it.

Thanks,

Larry

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[Mailman-Users] Problem installing on Solaris 8

2005-12-02 Thread Steve Garcia
I'm trying to install Mailman 2.1.6 on a Solaris 8 machine.  There seems
to be a rather strange error and I'm not sure if it's a misconfiguration
of my machine or a problem with Mailman.

I had no problem with 'configure' or with 'make'.  I *did* use gcc --
there is a cc binary on the system, but the Sun compiler is *not*
present, and this was no problem during the compile phase.

However, when I got to 'make install' it seems there is a problem.  The
install process seems to want to call cc, even though it was not
specified or used in either 'configure' or 'make'.

Here is the error I get:

8---start--
(cd ./$p ; umask 02 ; PYTHONPATH=/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib
/opt/csw/bin/python setup.py --quiet install --install-lib
/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib  --install-purelib
/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib  --install-data
/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib); \
done
/opt/csw/lib/python2.3/distutils/dist.py:213: UserWarning: 'licence'
distribution option is deprecated; use 'license'
  warnings.warn(msg)
/usr/ucb/cc:  language optional software package not installed
error: command 'cc' failed with exit status 1
*** Error code 1
make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `install-packages'
Current working directory /export/home/users/steve/mailman-2.1.6/misc
*** Error code 1
make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `doinstall'
8stop---

The error message from cc is the message that you get because the Sun
compiler is not installed.  But why is it being called?  I've tried
taking /usr/ucb out of the path so that there is no cc binary
available, but then I get the error that there is no cc.

OK, here's a workaround, but it's ugly.  I put a symlink pointing cc to
gcc and then made sure /usr/ucb was not in the path.  I got some warnings:

cc1: warning: -Wno-deprecated is valid for C++ but not C/ObjC

but the install finished.  It really sounds like there is something in
the Mailman install procedure that has cc hard coded.




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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman 2.1.11 install problem

2008-08-21 Thread Mark Sapiro
CJ Keist wrote:

One more thing,
I just tried to link cc to gcc but then get the following when I try 
to install:

cc: language arch=v8 not recognized
cc: src/_japanese_codecs.c: linker input file unused because linking not 
done
cc: build/temp.solaris-2.10-sun4v-2.5/src/_japanese_codecs.o: No such 
file or directory
error: command 'cc' failed with exit status 1
*** Error code 1
make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `install-packages'
Current working directory /space/src/mailman-2.1.11/misc
*** Error code 1
The following command caused the error:
for d in bin cron misc Mailman scripts src templates messages tests; \
do \
 (cd $d; make DESTDIR= install); \
done
make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `doinstall'


That's a twist. Usually it's the Korean codecs that cause a problem,
but see
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2008-June/062275.html
for some info on the solaris install.

Also, there's lots more in the archives. you can try sifting through
http://www.mail-archive.com/search?q=solaris+installl=mailman-users%40python.org
or refining that search.

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[Mailman-Users] Migration Help

2003-03-27 Thread irix
Hi, I need some help migrating our mailing lists.  I've looked on list.org, and
searched google, and I've yet to find anyone who's done what I'm doing. 
Basically, we have our lists running on a Linux box with mailman 2.0.13.  We're
moving it to Solaris, using mailman 2.0.13.  I obviously can't just tar up the
directories, so I need to know what I need to take from the Linux install to get
it working on Solaris.  I've tried a bunch of different things, the only thing
that I haven't done is recreating the lists, then importing their respective
directories and archives.  I can't really do this, as I only manage one out of
the many lists we have.. if I have to I will, but there has to be an easier way.
 Mailman works fine for lists that I create on that box, so the Solaris install
is not the problem, it's just the lists I try to move.

Can anyone out there shed some light on this for me?

Thanks,

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Re: [Mailman-Users] sendmail and solaris stuff

2007-02-27 Thread vancleef
The esteemed Barry Warsaw has said:
 
 Thanks Hank.  I haven't used Sendmail in 20 years, so if there is  
 some specific text you'd like to see added (or preferably a patch to  
 the latex file), please feel free to send it directly to me and I'll  
 push up a doc update.
 
Barry (and Mark)

Just to acknowledge your note.  I am installing Mailman on a Solaris
10 cold O/S install, and am right at the point in the install manual
where I have to configure sendmail to work with Mailman.  This is the
fourth or fifth time I've gone through the process, so as they say in
the automotive trades, I'm able to make flat rate.  

Since you guys aren't working with either Sendmail or Solaris, I think
it would be best for me to walk through and record the entire process,
and give that to you as a basis for inclusion where and however you
want to use it.  

I'll note that the sendmail.org faq on setting up virtual domains is
broken, and while the bat book covers doing it, the discussion is not
complete.  I think that including the relevant part of the main.mc
file, as well as the configuration of the local-domain-name file 
(known as the cw file), to give the novice admin. all of what is
needed to set up a virtual domain system might be wise.  That would
save you guys from having to answer FAQ questions constantly. 

Mark, I still owe you a how-to on moving an existing list to a new
host.  Your notes on my first stab at it made clear that I was
overcomplicating things.  

Hank

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Rr: Recovering from Server Fail

2011-01-20 Thread Mark Sapiro
McNutt Jr, William R wrote:

If I continue to make install I get the following error:

.././install-sh -c -m 755 mailman /usr/local/mailman/scripts
.././install-sh -c -m 644 sitelist.cfg /usr/local/mailman/data
for p in email-2.5.8 JapaneseCodecs-1.4.11 KoreanCodecs-2.0.5; \
do \
gunzip -c ./$p.tar.gz | (cd . ; tar xf -); \
(cd ./$p ; umask 02 ; PYTHONPATH=/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib 
 /usr/local/bin/python setup.py --quiet install --install-lib 
 /usr/local/mailman/pythonlib  --install-purelib /usr/local/mailman/pythonlib  
 --install-data /usr/local/mailman/pythonlib); \
done
/usr/local/lib/python2.6/distutils/dist.py:250: UserWarning: 'licence' 
distribution option is deprecated; use 'license'
  warnings.warn(msg)
src/hangul.c:33: error: syntax error before numeric constant
src/hangul.c:34: error: syntax error before numeric constant
error: command 'gcc' failed with exit status 1
*** Error code 1
make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `install-packages'
Current working directory /export/home/local/mailman-2.1.9/misc
*** Error code 1
The following command caused the error:
for d in bin cron misc Mailman scripts src templates messages tests; \
do \
(cd $d; make DESTDIR= install); \
done
make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `doinstall'


There's a lot of stuff in the archives of this list about various
solaris installation issues. Try googling site:mail.python.org
inurl:mailman solaris 10 codecs syntax.

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[Mailman-Users] Admin authentication failed 'cause of cookie

2001-01-12 Thread Stephane Thillay

 Hi,

I'm working on a fresh install with Mailman 2.0.1, Python 2.0 and
Apache 1.3.14 on a Solaris 2.6 box.

I can't reach the administrative web page for my lists. Each time I
enter the passwd (in myhost/mailman/admin/mylist) I receive a
"Authentication failed" message followed by the password form.

I tried to compare with a 'magic ports' installation on a FreeBSD 4.2
box, This one works fine, Then I discoverd that the Solaris box
doesn't send the cookie named 'mylist:admin'.

Whatever password I use (list or site), access is blocked.

In the mailing list archive, I found a message talking about an update
of Python from 1.5.5 to 2.0 that avoid proper authentication.
(http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2001-January/008812.html)
So I tried Python 1.6 and 1.5.2 without any success.

Any ideas ?

STh

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Compile Problem: msgmerge: command not found.

2004-10-06 Thread Tokio Kikuchi
Hi,
Aaron The Young wrote:
Hey all,
I'm running Solaris 2.8 and python 2.3.3 and my configure of mailman 
2.1.5 goes swell, but when I attempt to
compile, I get the following during my compile:

make[1]: Entering directory `/nn/local/src/mailman-2.1.5/messages'
Merging new template file with existing translations
msgmerge -U ca/LC_MESSAGES/mailman.po mailman.pot
make[1]: msgmerge: Command not found
Solaris 8 has no msgmerge. You have to install GNU gettext.
Or, you can download latest messages/Makefile.in from CVS
(Release_2_1-maint branch) and restart installation from
'configure'.
You can get the latest CVS for the Release_2_1-maint by
$ cvs -z3 -d:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvsroot/mailman \
  co -r Release_2_1-maint mailman
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Re: [Mailman-Users] newlist list creation error

2008-06-29 Thread Tim Bell

Vidiot wrote:


When I get to the step about getting mailman to start at boot time,
I'll see if I can get it wedged into the Solaris 10 services system.
The stuff I got to install exim should be modifiable to work with mailman.
If I do manage to get it to work, I'll submit the files for future
inclusion.


Do some searching before you sit down to write a Solaris smf (service management facility) 
manifest from scratch.  You will find other examples out there.  I got my mailman manifest from 
this weblog entry: http://whacked.net/2005/08/14/more-work-on-grommit and a postfix manifest 
for my MTA from http://cuddletech.com/opensolaris/smf/postfix.xml


There is also an archive of smf examples here:

  http://opensolaris.org/os/community/smf/manifests/

HTH - Tim
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Apache, mailman and ScriptAlias - not as documented

2008-06-25 Thread Vidiot
That's because you're installing a RedHat package, and the RPM already
installed /etc/httpd/conf.d/mailman.conf which contains that
ScriptAlias.

Oh crap.  Another reason I am going toward Solaris 10.  The last thing I'd
do is stick a web server confing file in another directory and include it.
If they would have dropped the mailman config file in the main config
directory, it would have caught my attention.

Burying it elsewhere just does the out-of-sight, out-of-mind thing.

You should be following the RedHat documentation that came with your
package, not our generic, install from source documentation.

Ya, that is going to be fun - NOT!  I don't even know where the DVD is at
the moment and have no idea if they actually installed any doumentation.

At this point I'm just going to say screw it until I get the Solaris 10 box
up and running.  The configurations are obviously going to be different as
I have no idea what the Hell they did when mailman was installed.  FYI,
there is no man page for mailman, so there isn't even a hint as to what
they did.

The computer is running, sorta.  The damn processor is running hot and that
is just sitting on the BIOS screen looking at system values.  The AMD
supplied heatsink can't even keep the temp near 40 deg C doing nothing.
In a warm room, trying to install Solaris results in Solaris bitching
that the temp is too hot and stopping.  Sure enough, it was at 61 degrees,
four less than the operational max.

Not your problem.

Thanks for pointing this out.  I'll go away now and compile the source
when I get Sol10 working.  Speaking of that, do you suggest using GNU or
Sun Studio to compile the package?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem installing on Solaris 8

2005-12-02 Thread Young, Darren
 I'm trying to install Mailman 2.1.6 on a Solaris 8 machine.  
 There seems to be a rather strange error and I'm not sure if 
 it's a misconfiguration of my machine or a problem with Mailman.
 
 I had no problem with 'configure' or with 'make'.  I *did* 
 use gcc -- there is a cc binary on the system, but the Sun 
 compiler is *not* present, and this was no problem during the 
 compile phase.
 
 However, when I got to 'make install' it seems there is a 
 problem.  The install process seems to want to call cc, 
 even though it was not specified or used in either 
 'configure' or 'make'.
 
 Here is the error I get:
 
 8---start--
 (cd ./$p ; umask 02 ; PYTHONPATH=/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib
 /opt/csw/bin/python setup.py --quiet install --install-lib 
 /usr/local/mailman/pythonlib  --install-purelib 
 /usr/local/mailman/pythonlib  --install-data 
 /usr/local/mailman/pythonlib); \ done
 /opt/csw/lib/python2.3/distutils/dist.py:213: UserWarning: 'licence'
 distribution option is deprecated; use 'license'
   warnings.warn(msg)
 /usr/ucb/cc:  language optional software package not installed
 error: command 'cc' failed with exit status 1
 *** Error code 1
 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `install-packages'
 Current working directory /export/home/users/steve/mailman-2.1.6/misc
 *** Error code 1
 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `doinstall'
 8stop---
 
 The error message from cc is the message that you get 
 because the Sun compiler is not installed.  But why is it 
 being called?  I've tried taking /usr/ucb out of the path so 
 that there is no cc binary available, but then I get the 
 error that there is no cc.
 
 OK, here's a workaround, but it's ugly.  I put a symlink 
 pointing cc to gcc and then made sure /usr/ucb was not in the 
 path.  I got some warnings:
 
 cc1: warning: -Wno-deprecated is valid for C++ but not C/ObjC
 
 but the install finished.  It really sounds like there is 
 something in the Mailman install procedure that has cc hard coded.
 

Try export CC='gcc' or CC='/path/to/gcc' then clean and re-run configure

Or clean and run configure CC='/path/to/gcc'

Or even both.

Watch out for ar as well, I've had that do the same thing on Solaris 8. 

I usually add CC='/opt/sfw/bin/gcc' and AR='/opt/sfw/bin/gcc' to all my
configure's and make's


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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman install problem

2007-01-23 Thread Piniella, David A
I have actually already renamed the /usr/ucb/cc (to cc_old) and modified my 
path (specifically for the install):

bash-3.00# which gcc
/opt/csw/gcc3/bin/gcc

bash-3.00# which cc
no cc in /usr/local/sbin /opt/csw/sbin /opt/sfw/sbin /opt/sbin /usr/sbin /sbin 
/usr/local/bin /usr/bin /opt/bin /bin /usr/openwin/bin /opt/csw/bin 
/opt/sfw/bin /usr/apache/bin /opt/csw/gcc3/bin /usr/ccs/bin

bash-3.00#

I'm still getting the same unable to execute cc error. I really don't 
understand it; would there be any cached info?

-d.




-Original Message-
From: Hank van Cleef [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tue 1/23/2007 3:52 PM
To: Piniella, David A
Cc: mailman-users@python.org
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman install problem
 
The esteemed Piniella, David A has said:
 
 Hi,
 
 I'm trying to install mailman 2.1.9 on a Solaris 10 x86 machine and I'm
 running into problems with make install.
 I have no cc installed, I am using GCC 3.4.5 which I've installed from
 blastwave.org; python is 2.3.5. 
 
 I've searched the archives of the list and hit up google to no avail,
 any suggestion(s) or hints would be most appreciated, I'm ready to scrap
 this install. I don't know if it's something funky in Sol10's make or
 maybe mailman's expecting gcc to be cc (see unable to execute cc: No
 such file or directory \ error: command 'cc' failed with exit status 1
 -- I did NOT specify the --with-gcc=no option during the configure).

(snippity snippity)
 
 /opt/csw/lib/python2.3/distutils/dist.py:213: UserWarning: 'licence'
 distribution option is deprecated; use 'license'
   warnings.warn(msg)
 unable to execute cc: No such file or directory
 error: command 'cc' failed with exit status 1
 make[1]: *** [install-packages] Error 1
 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/mailman/misc'
 *** Error code 2

You're probably seeing what's a well-known problem with Solaris using
GNU-type configure and Makefile generation.  Easy to fix.

The cc that some makefile is finding is probably /usr/ucb/cc in the 
Solaris install. That is a stub that does nothing.  Rename it to cc.bsd.

On a Solaris site, you have to set up PATH as a post-install operation.
Most Solaris admins have a post-install script for doing this.  

Do a check, using the which command.  which gcc should point to the path
where the gcc you want to use is located, and do a version check.   

Then do a which cc.  Unless you have Studio 11 installed, you should get
a not found return.  The Studio 11 compiler resources are in
/opt/SUNWspro/bin if they are installed.  

You may have to locate the offending Makefile or rerun configure to
recover, but try make install first, after assuring that nothing can
find /usr/ucb/cc.

Hank

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on Solaris-based web server

2004-10-19 Thread Mark Sapiro
John Wheaton wrote:

I am curious whether Mailman will work on Solaris, and how best to  
integrate it with our current web site. Our school maintains an  
informational website at www.stfrancishighschool.com, hosted by IgLou in  
Louisville. We have been discussing with a few alumni the possibility of  
creating mailing lists for the alums, and Mailman seems like a good  
solution. We have also looked into Majordomo, which IgLou will administer  
for additional monthly charges. We would like to save money.

Can Mailman be installed alongside our website? In other words, is it self  
contained? Can its bin and lib files, for example, be installed in our web  
directory, and still allow Mailman to function?

Mailman can be installed under Solaris in your own virtual domain on
your web host, but it requires (probably root) access to the shell on
the server to do it and to integrate it with the web server and MTA on
the host. I.e. IgLou will probably have to do it for you and will
probably charge you for the installation and maybe for monthly use as
well.

To see what's involved in installing Mailman, go to
http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/mailman/mailman/INSTALL?only_with_tag=Release_2_1_5view=markup

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Re: [Mailman-Users] I've built apache, sendmail, mailman successfully, how to make them work?

2006-02-13 Thread Mark Sapiro
lovecreatesbeauty wrote:

I build this mail system using apache, sendmail (bundled with Solaris
10) and mailman on Solaris 10 experimental. All these componemts work
properly separately.

How to make them work tegother, and just work as a real mail system as yours?

Following are the working processes of the three main components on my
Solaris 10 machine:

snip of ps outputs showing sendmail, apache and mailman are running.

I am really disturbed by the problems of this mail system and mailman
for some days. Could you please help me?


See http://www.list.org/mailman-install/index.html

If you want more specific help from this list, you have to at least
give us a clue like what do you do and what happens when you do it?

And what part of Mailman works separately from apache and sendmail???

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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman install problem - Solaris

2007-01-23 Thread Mark Sapiro
Piniella, David A wrote:

No dice, I tried that with gcc and yacc. Is there any way to just avoid
the Japanese and Korean codecs packages' compilation, or to skip them
entirely? I don't really need to host any lists in Japanese or Korean
(or do these packages do something else?)


This too is really tricky. See yesterday's take on this in the thread
at
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2007-January/055498.html.

There is some issue which seems to affect some combination of Solaris
release  8 and some versions of Python's distutils module and
probably the specific configuration of the Solaris machine that
impacts the installation of the C modules in the KoreanCodecs package.

You can't just eliminate the Korean codecs because it causes problems
for the email package. If your Python is 2.4 or later however, there
are Korean codecs in Python so you don't need the package in Mailman's
pythonlib. If you have an earlier Python, installing CJKCodecs
http://cjkpython.i18n.org might eliminate the need for the Korean
and Japanese codecs in Mailman's pythonlib.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Solaris 10 and Python

2011-01-21 Thread Gary R. Schmidt

On 22/01/2011 12:40 PM, McNutt Jr, William R mcn...@utk.edu wrote:

 Has anyone successfully made this work on a Sun Solaris 10?  I've
 been at this for three days and no matter what I do, I only manage
 to change error messages.  At this point I've made it through the
 ./configure step, but it's breaking on make install.

 It's a Sun Fire x4100 running solaris 10.  I've got mailman 2.1.14
 and python 2.6.2
Worked out of the box for me:
./configure \
--prefix=/data/mailman \
--with-python=/opt/webstack/bin/python \
--with-cgi-gid=webservd \
--with-mailhost=mail.mydomain \
--with-urlhost=www.mydomain \
--with-gcc=no

Note that I have SunStudio, WebStack, and Postfix (built from source) on 
this machine.


 If you've made it work under that configuration and are willing so
 show off your 'leet skills helping me deal with this, please shoot
 me a note at mcn...@utk.edumailto:mcn...@utk.edu.

Ask on the list, get answered on the list :-'

Cheers,
GaryB-)
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Solaris 10 and Python

2011-01-24 Thread Steff Watkins
 

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 From: mailman-users-bounces+s.watkins=nhm.ac...@python.org 
 [mailto:mailman-users-bounces+s.watkins=nhm.ac...@python.org] 
 On Behalf Of McNutt Jr, William R
 Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 8:53 PM
 To: mailman-users@python.org
 Subject: [Mailman-Users] Solaris 10 and Python
 
 Has anyone successfully made this work on a Sun Solaris 10?  
 I've been at this for three days and no matter what I do, I 
 only manage to change error messages.  At this point I've 
 made it through the ./configure step, but it's breaking on 
 make install.

Any chance you can post what the failure message your make session
returns? [this is me busily digging a very deep hole from which I may
never return!]

At this point, with no further info, I'm guessing it's most likely that
you've probably not got your binary search path or your link library
path setup to pick up all the things that make needs.

A side question: is this list the best place to discuss mailman build
issues? If not, then someone please squeal and the line of banter can be
taken off-list.

Steff
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[Mailman-Users] Recovering from Server Fail, was FW: Make Install Fails

2011-01-20 Thread McNutt Jr, William R
I've continued to fiddle with this and now have different errors, so I thought 
I would back up and give ya'll the big picture in case I'm approaching this 
from the wrong direction.  Tuesday morning I had a hardware failure on my old 
Solaris 10 box.  In 25 years in the business, I don't think I've seen a 
hardware failure as thorough as this that didn't involve smoke.  The machine is 
utterly unrecoverable. 

So to get back into service, I decided to  move the service to a different box. 
 It's also a Solaris box, but is a Sun X4100.  I have restored the directory 
tree from tape, but presume that the executables can't be run on the new 
platform.  

What is the quickest way to get mailman back in service?

Bill McNutt

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Jr, William R
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 10:44 PM
To: mailman-users@python.org
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Make Install Fails

I'm attempting to install Mailman on a Solaris 10 box and I am unable to get 
past make install.

Sorry - not a unix guy, please use small words and explicit direction.

Attached is the results of make install:
Creating architecture independent directories...
chmod o-r /usr/local/mailman/archives/private
Creating architecture dependent directories...
for f in mmsitepass newlist rmlist add_members  list_members remove_members 
clone_member update arch  sync_members check_db withlist check_perms 
find_member  version config_list list_lists dumpdb cleanarch  list_admins 
genaliases change_pw mailmanctl qrunner inject  unshunt fix_url.py convert.py 
transcheck b4b5-archfix  list_owners msgfmt.py show_qfiles discard rb-archfix  
reset_pw.py; \ do \
.././install-sh -c -m 755 ../build/bin/$f /usr/local/mailman/bin; \ done 
for f in crontab.in; \ do \
.././install-sh -c -m 644 $f /usr/local/mailman/cron; \ done for f in 
checkdbs mailpasswds senddigests gate_news  nightly_gzip bumpdigests disabled; 
\ do \
.././install-sh -c -m 755 ../build/cron/$f /usr/local/mailman/cron; \ done 
for i in ./*.jpg ./*.png; \ do \
  .././install-sh -c -m 644 $i /usr/local/mailman/icons; \ done for d in bin 
cron scripts tests; \ do \
dir=/usr/local/mailman/$d; \
.././install-sh -c -m 644 paths.py $dir; \ done .././install-sh -c -m 755 
mailman /usr/local/mailman/scripts .././install-sh -c -m 644 sitelist.cfg 
/usr/local/mailman/data for p in email-2.5.8 JapaneseCodecs-1.4.11 
KoreanCodecs-2.0.5; \ do \
gunzip -c ./$p.tar.gz | (cd . ; tar xf -); \
(cd ./$p ; umask 02 ; PYTHONPATH=/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib 
/usr/local/bin/python setup.py --quiet install --install-lib 
/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib  --install-purelib /usr/local/mailman/pythonlib  
--install-data /usr/local/mailman/pythonlib); \ done
/usr/local/lib/python2.6/distutils/dist.py:250: UserWarning: 'licence' 
distribution option is deprecated; use 'license'
  warnings.warn(msg)
src/hangul.c:33: error: syntax error before numeric constant
src/hangul.c:34: error: syntax error before numeric constant
error: command 'gcc' failed with exit status 1
*** Error code 1
make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `install-packages'
Current working directory /export/home/local/mailman/mailman-2.1.9/misc
*** Error code 1
The following command caused the error:
for d in bin cron misc Mailman scripts src templates messages tests; \ do \
(cd $d; make DESTDIR= install); \
done
make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `doinstall'
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman complie errors again

2005-12-09 Thread Mark Sapiro
Carl Zwanzig wrote:

In a flurry of recycled electrons, Elvis Fernandes wrote:
 I am compiling mailman-2.1.5 on Solaris10 (SPARC) with gcc 3.3.2
 When I do make install, I get the following fatal error:

Mailman compiles itself. Are you compiling -python-? (That's what it looks 
like.) Sort of out of scope for this list, but you might want to take a 
look at:

http://www.python.org/download/download_other.html

 /usr/include/sys/siginfo.h:432: error: parse error before k_siginfo_t
 /usr/include/sys/siginfo.h:437: error: parse error before '}' token
 In file included from /usr/include/sys/procset.h:24,
  from /usr/include/sys/wait.h:25,
  from /usr/include/stdlib.h:22,
  from /usr/local/include/python2.4/Python.h:39,
  from src/_japanese_codecs.c:12:


Actually, this comes from the installation of the japanese codecs in
mailman. The src/_japanese_codecs.c file is in the Mailman 2.1.5
distribution in the misc/JapaneseCodecs-1.4.10 directory.

This is one of several compilations of c programs/modules in the
Mailman make install process.

Note however that Mailman 2.1.5 is not fully compatible with Python
2.4. I don't know if it would fix this problen, but if you're running
Python 2.4 (or even if you're not) you would do well to install
Mailman 2.1.6 or later.

I see from a later post, Elvis 'fixed' the problem by falling back to
Solaris 8. It's hard to say what's really going on in the case that
fails, but it looks like there is some compatibility issue between the
header files in /usr/include/sys/ and gcc 3.3.2 on Solaris 10.

Presumably, the Python header file
/usr/local/include/python2.4/Python.h is included in many Python
modules and thus this whole include path was exercised during the
original compile of Python for Solaris 10 (maybe with some other c
compiler).

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[Mailman-Users] solaris10 sparc, check_perms messages

2010-12-11 Thread upen
Hi,

This is my first attempt to install Mailman-2.1.14 on solaris10/sparc.
HAving installed pythin-2.6.2 and gcc4 I then successfull did y
configure, gmake, gmake install. However, when I run bin/check_perms I
receive below messages.

-bash-3.00# ./bin/check_perms
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File ./bin/check_perms, line 395, in module
checkmail()
  File ./bin/check_perms, line 293, in checkmail
mode = statmode(wrapper)
  File ./bin/check_perms, line 82, in statmode
return os.stat(path)[ST_MODE]
OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman'


Can someone throw some light on this issue? In addition, if there is
any howto or install document on internet for Mailman on solaris 10
then please let me know that too.

Thanks.
Aero
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Re: [Mailman-Users] 2.1 Install Issues

2003-01-03 Thread Barry A. Warsaw

DL On most directories, each file to be installed is enumerated
DL and installed within a loop, however, for the icons directory,
DL the Makefile seems to rely on wildcard matching.  That may not
DL be a valid assumption.

Could be a GNU Make-ism.  Maybe Solaris's make doesn't do wildcarding?
(It's been too long since I've been on Solaris and I'm too tired right
now to look it up. ;).

DL On the line that installs the template subdirectories, the
DL 'install-sh -c' line has '-m 644 instead of '-m 664', so that
DL may also be a Makefile issue.

That's correct for the files inside the template subdirs.

DL As for the messages subdirectories, those appear to be created
DL with simple calls to mkdir rather than install and they don't
DL appear to have permissions being set at all.

Actually, both should be created by the mkinstalldirs script in the
top level source directory.

I'll have to try to find some time to build Mailman on the Solaris box
in the SF compile farm.

-Barry

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[Mailman-Users] Problem with Installing Mailman 2.1.9 on Solaris 10

2007-03-25 Thread David Devereaux-Weber
I'm having a problem with building mailman 2.1.9 on Solaris 10.  No problems 
with configure or make, but make install breaks.

Here is an extract:

/opt/csw/lib/python2.3/distutils/dist.py:213: UserWarning: 'licence' 
distribution option is deprecated; use 'license'
  warnings.warn(msg)
unable to execute cc: No such file or directory
error: command 'cc' failed with exit status 1
*** Error code 1
make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `install-packages'
Current working directory /usr/local/src/mailman-2.1.9/misc
*** Error code 1
The following command caused the error:
for d in bin cron misc Mailman scripts src templates messages tests; \
do \
(cd $d; make DESTDIR= install); \
done
make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `doinstall'



Does anyone see something here?

Thanks!

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Re: [Mailman-Users] solaris10 sparc, check_perms messages

2010-12-11 Thread Mark Sapiro
upen wrote:

This is my first attempt to install Mailman-2.1.14 on solaris10/sparc.
HAving installed pythin-2.6.2 and gcc4 I then successfull did y
configure, gmake, gmake install. However, when I run bin/check_perms I
receive below messages.

-bash-3.00# ./bin/check_perms
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File ./bin/check_perms, line 395, in module
checkmail()
  File ./bin/check_perms, line 293, in checkmail
mode = statmode(wrapper)
  File ./bin/check_perms, line 82, in statmode
return os.stat(path)[ST_MODE]
OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman'


Presumably this is because the mail wrapper has some other name,
perhaps 
/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman.exe, but why? Or is there no
/usr/local/mailman/mail/* mail wrapper at all?


Can someone throw some light on this issue?


It may be a bug in check_perms. What options did you give to configure?
What is the name of the mail wrapper file in /usr/local/mailman/mail/?


In addition, if there is
any howto or install document on internet for Mailman on solaris 10
then please let me know that too.


Try
http://www.google.com/#q=site:mail.python.org+inurl%3Amailman+solaris
10

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[Mailman-Users] Upgrading from 2.0.5 to 2.0.8

2002-01-14 Thread Ash


I'm currently running Mailman 2.0.5 on a Solaris 8 box, and am
planning on upgrading it to 2.0.8.  

I've noticed that there are patch files available on SourceForge 
for the patch command.  After I apply the patch files and run the
make and make install commands, will this erase the mailing
list data and configuration directories?  Or is there a provision
in the make file for preserving these directories with mailing list
data  (e.g. data/, archives/private/, archives/public/, lists/, 
etc...)?

Is there a FAQ on upgrading Mailman or a recommended plan for doing 
upgrades on a live installation that doesn't require the erasure 
of data?

Thanks,

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[Mailman-Users] Migration to new host new version

2002-08-01 Thread Brian Vandruff

I need to migrate an existing Mailman install to a new machine running a 
newer version of Mailman. here are the details:

OLD SERVER

OS  Solaris 7
Mailman version 2.0beta2
MailmanDir /usr/local/mailman


NEW SERVER
==
OS  Redhat 7.2
Mailman Version 2.0.11-1 
MailmanDir /var/mailman


What is the process to migrate to the new server? Can I just copy all the 
following files to the new server :

archives
data 
lists  
mail 
templates
cron 
filters

Mailman is new to me so any help would be appreciated.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Solaris install problem

2002-09-18 Thread Barry A. Warsaw


 DS == David Sammons [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

DS   You have a module pwd in python2.../Modules/Setup
DS which it´s commented, just uncomment that and
DS re-compile python and if it´s necesary MM too...

But the odd this is that with Python 2.2.1, it should auto-detect and
automatically build the pwd module, without hacking Setup.  If id
doesn't do that, then there's a problem with the Python build process,
but I didn't see that when I built it on SourceForge's compile farm.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman-2.1.26: `make install` fails

2018-06-05 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 06/05/2018 01:40 PM, Brent Kearney wrote:
> Thanks Mark; its an old Sun Solaris 10 system. I’m not sure how to get the 
> version from make itself, but the GCC version is 3.4.3.


Try

make --version

or if that doesn't work,

make --help

to see the options.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1.[56] installation problem w/ KoreanCodecs

2005-11-27 Thread Tokio Kikuchi
Christophe Kalt wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 make install dies with
 (cd ./$p ; umask 02 ; PYTHONPATH=/home/mailman/2.1.5/pythonlib 
 /usr/local/bin/python setup.py --quiet install --install-lib 
 /home/mailman/2.1.5/pythonlib  --install-purelib 
 /home/mailman/2.1.5/pythonlib  --install-data /home/mailman/2.1.5/pythonlib); 
 \
 done
 /usr/local/lib/python2.4/distutils/dist.py:222: UserWarning: 'licence' 
 distribution option is deprecated; use 'license'
   warnings.warn(msg)
 src/hangul.c:33: error: syntax error before numeric constant
 src/hangul.c:34: error: syntax error before numeric constant
 error: command 'gcc' failed with exit status 1
 *** Error code 1
 
 This happens with either 2.1.5 or 2.1.6, various versions of
 Python as well.  It's on Solaris 10 with Sun's bundled gcc
 (/usr/sfw/bin/gcc).
 
 Rather furstrating.  Is there an easy way to just skip these
 codecs i have no use for?

You are using python2.4 which should support Chinese/Korean/Japanese 
codecs by itself. So, you need not, in principle, install 
Korean/Japanese codecs which are included in mailman distribution.
You may want to try my language select patch in the SF tracker:

http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=1298355group_id=103atid=300103

Or, you can go to the mailman_source/misc directory and find [Kk]orean 
notation in Makefile and paths.py and comment them out, then do the make 
install again.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Solaris install problem

2002-09-17 Thread David Sammons


  You have a module pwd in python2.../Modules/Setup
which it´s commented, just uncomment that and
re-compile python and if it´s necesary MM too...

 
--- derf [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:  
 
 I'm trying to install Mailman under Solaris 8 with
 the 8_recommended patches
 installed.  I've downloaded, compiled, and installed
 Python 2.2.1.  While
 attempting to configure Mailman 2.0.13, it gives the
 following error no
 matter what I do:
 
 # ./configure --with-username=mailman
 loading cache ./config.cache
 checking for --with-python... no
 checking for python... /usr/local/bin/python
 checking Python interpreter... /usr/local/bin/python
 checking Python version... 2.2.1
 checking for a BSD compatible install...
 ./install-sh -c
 checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... yes
 checking for true... /usr/bin/true
 checking for --without-gcc... no
 checking for gcc... gcc
 checking whether the C compiler (gcc  ) works... yes
 checking whether the C compiler (gcc  ) is a
 cross-compiler... no
 checking whether we are using GNU C... yes
 checking whether gcc accepts -g... yes
 checking whether #! works in shell scripts... yes
 checking for --with-var-prefix... no
 checking for --with-username... mailman
 checking for mailman UID... Traceback (most recent
 call last):
   File conftest.py, line 1, in ?
 import pwd, string
 ImportError: No module named pwd
 cat: cannot open conftest.out
 
 configure: error: 
 * No mailman user found!
 * Your system must have a mailman user defined
 * (usually in your /etc/passwd file).  Please
 see the INSTALL
 * file for details.
 # 
 
 My /etc/passwd has the following line in it:
 
 mailman:x:126:508::/apps/mailman:/usr/local/bin/tcsh
 
 The user and group have been created as per the
 instructions.  I'm thinking
 that it's giving me this error message, but not
 because of the user issue,
 but because of something else.
 
 Does anybody have any idea what this could be?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Derf
 

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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman 2.1.11 install problem

2008-08-21 Thread CJ Keist

Mark,
   Thank you.  I did find the following messages:
http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/msg43260.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/msg43262.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/msg35645.html

But nothing is working, they seem to make sure your env path is set 
right. This is what I have set:


/usr/ccs/bin:/usr/sfw/bin:/usr/local/bin:/opt/csw/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin

I don't have access to Sun Studio compiler so that option is out for 
me.  I'm using python from blastwave.org version 2.5.1



Mark Sapiro wrote:

CJ Keist wrote:

  

One more thing,
   I just tried to link cc to gcc but then get the following when I try 
to install:


cc: language arch=v8 not recognized
cc: src/_japanese_codecs.c: linker input file unused because linking not 
done
cc: build/temp.solaris-2.10-sun4v-2.5/src/_japanese_codecs.o: No such 
file or directory

error: command 'cc' failed with exit status 1
*** Error code 1
make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `install-packages'
Current working directory /space/src/mailman-2.1.11/misc
*** Error code 1
The following command caused the error:
for d in bin cron misc Mailman scripts src templates messages tests; \
do \
(cd $d; make DESTDIR= install); \
done
make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `doinstall'




That's a twist. Usually it's the Korean codecs that cause a problem,
but see
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2008-June/062275.html
for some info on the solaris install.

Also, there's lots more in the archives. you can try sifting through
http://www.mail-archive.com/search?q=solaris+installl=mailman-users%40python.org
or refining that search.

  


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Re: [Mailman-Users] How to integrate HTDIG when installing with Yum

2011-06-30 Thread Mark Sapiro
Rosenbaum, Larry M. wrote:

I am about to install Mailman on a RHEL6 system using Yum.  How do I integrate 
HTDIG with it?

I have previously done HTDig integration on an install from source on Solaris, 
which involved a bunch of patching, I'm relatively new at Linux, but I suspect 
there is a better way to do it.


The only htDig integration I am aware of is a set of patches originally
developed by Richard Barrett and currently available in various
versions at https://bugs.launchpad.net/mailman/+bug/266554,
http://www.openinfo.co.uk/mm/index.html and
http://www.msapiro.net/mm/.

These patches are designed to be applied during a source install.
Application to an installed Mailman, particularly a RHEL package,
would at a minimum require some knowledge of the details of the
patches to know what to apply to the various installed files, what new
files to add, how to compile the htdig and mmsearch wrappers and so
forth.

The better way would be for someone familiar with the Red Hat package,
the htDig patches and Red Hat packaging in general to create a Red Hat
Mailman RPM with htDig integration installed and then people could
just install that RPM. As far as I know, no such RPM exists.

My advice is if you are not going to enable SELinux on your RHEL
server, forget the RedHat Package and install Mailman from source with
the patches as you did on Solaris.

If you are going to enable SELinux, consider still installing Mailman
from source and including the Red Hat patch you will find linked from
the FAQ article at http://wiki.list.org/x/KYCB or a more recent
version if you can find one, and then struggling through the security
policy issues that may remain.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on Solaris8

2001-05-04 Thread Len Merikanto

On Fri, 4 May 2001, Barry A. Warsaw wrote:

 
  LM == Len Merikanto [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 | choose_boundary
 | hostid = socket.gethostbyname(socket.gethostname())
 | error: host not found
 
 LM Hostname is ok. domain name is ok.
 
 LM What can this problem be?
 
 gethostname or gethostbyname is misconfigured? ;)
 
 Try this in straight Python:
 
  snip snip 
 % /usr/bin/python
 Python 1.5.2 (#1, Sep 17 1999, 20:15:36)  [GCC egcs-2.91.66 19990314/Linux (egcs- on 
linux-i386
 Copyright 1991-1995 Stichting Mathematisch Centrum, Amsterdam
  from socket import *
  gethostname()
 'anthem'
  gethostbyname(gethostname())
 '192.168.1.2'
  snip snip 
 
 Do you get the hostname and IP address as expected?  If not, then it's
 a DNS, NIS, or /etc/hosts problem (i.e. a system configuration problem
 and not Python or Mailman).
 
 -Barry
 

Retried everything if i do everything from the scratch.
ie install mailman and do not upgrade it.
just install from scratch it works.

then when i copt all files from mailman dir on freebsd move them to
solaris reisntall mailman like upgrade it everything goes wrong.

and i get that error. also tried only just copy lists from lists dir of
freebsd mailman and the mm_cfg.py from Mailman dir into solaris
i get it halfly working. i can see listinfo but cannot admin nor do
anything to lists.


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[Mailman-Users] problem upgrading from 2.0.11 to 2.1.8 on Solaris 9 with Python 2.4

2006-06-26 Thread Kralizec Craig

Hi everyone,

I'm updating a mailman installation which is currently 2.0.11 running 
under Solaris 9 on a Sun Sparc system

I've compiled mailman-2.1.8 without a problem but when I went to install it, 
it's aborted part-way through the update process with this error:

 start 

Updating Mailman 2.0 pending_subscriptions.db database
Traceback (most recent call last):

   File bin/update, line 789, in ?
 errors = main()
   File bin/update, line 713, in main
 update_pending()
   File bin/update, line 592, in update_pending
 addr = data[0].address
AttributeError: 'str' object has no attribute 'address'
gmake: *** [update] Error 1

 stop 

I made sure that the web server and mail server are turned off before 
trying to install the new version of the software...

Could this be an unknown problem when updating from 2.0.11, or is it 
something more insidious - perhaps a problem with Python itself?

The machine used to have Python 2.2 installed but before starting the 
mailman upgrade I upgraded Python from 2.2 to 2.4. Maybe backing that out 
by re-installing Python 2.2 will help?

Regards,

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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman install problem - Solaris

2007-01-23 Thread Hank van Cleef
The esteemed Piniella, David A has said:
 
 
 
 OK, for giggles, I updated python to 2.5 from 2.3.5, and now configure does 
 this:
 
 checking for group name mailman... Traceback (most recent call last):
   File conftest.py, line 1, in module
 import grp
 ImportError: ld.so.1: python: fatal: libgcc_s.so.1: open failed: No such file 
 or directory
 cat: cannot open conftest.out
 configure: error:
 * No mailman group found!
 * Your system must have a mailman group defined
 * (usually in your /etc/group file).  Please see the INSTALL
 * file for details.
 bash-3.00# cat /etc/group | grep mailman
 mailman::100:mailman
 bash-3.00#
 
 ...what?

David, at this point I'm going to bow out and let Mark do the talking.
The only real contribution I had to make was to flag the /usr/bin/cc
issue in Solaris, which is is something that bites almost everyone
sooner or later.   

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[Mailman-Users] mailman-2.1.9 on Solaris 8: /bin/sh: /bin/update: cannot execute

2007-10-11 Thread gregben

I'm having trouble with

# make install

The last few lines of output are:

Compiling /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/htmlformat.py ...
Compiling /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/i18n.py ...
Compiling /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/versions.py ...
/bin/sh: bin/update: cannot execute
make: *** [update] Error 1
#

The file bin/update contained:

#! @PYTHON@

in the shebang line.
I changed this to:

#!/usr/local/bin/python

and this allows me to execute /bin/update from the command line
but the make install still fails so I must barking up the wrong tree.

Python version is 2.3.3

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[Mailman-Users] Make Install Fails

2011-01-19 Thread McNutt Jr, William R
I'm attempting to install Mailman on a Solaris 10 box and I am unable to get 
past make install.

Sorry - not a unix guy, please use small words and explicit direction.

Attached is the results of make install:
Creating architecture independent directories...
chmod o-r /usr/local/mailman/archives/private
Creating architecture dependent directories...
for f in mmsitepass newlist rmlist add_members  list_members remove_members 
clone_member update arch  sync_members check_db withlist check_perms 
find_member  version config_list list_lists dumpdb cleanarch  list_admins 
genaliases change_pw mailmanctl qrunner inject  unshunt fix_url.py convert.py 
transcheck b4b5-archfix  list_owners msgfmt.py show_qfiles discard rb-archfix  
reset_pw.py; \
do \
.././install-sh -c -m 755 ../build/bin/$f /usr/local/mailman/bin; \
done
for f in crontab.in; \
do \
.././install-sh -c -m 644 $f /usr/local/mailman/cron; \
done
for f in checkdbs mailpasswds senddigests gate_news  nightly_gzip bumpdigests 
disabled; \
do \
.././install-sh -c -m 755 ../build/cron/$f /usr/local/mailman/cron; \
done
for i in ./*.jpg ./*.png; \
do \
  .././install-sh -c -m 644 $i /usr/local/mailman/icons; \
done
for d in bin cron scripts tests; \
do \
dir=/usr/local/mailman/$d; \
.././install-sh -c -m 644 paths.py $dir; \
done
.././install-sh -c -m 755 mailman /usr/local/mailman/scripts
.././install-sh -c -m 644 sitelist.cfg /usr/local/mailman/data
for p in email-2.5.8 JapaneseCodecs-1.4.11 KoreanCodecs-2.0.5; \
do \
gunzip -c ./$p.tar.gz | (cd . ; tar xf -); \
(cd ./$p ; umask 02 ; PYTHONPATH=/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib 
/usr/local/bin/python setup.py --quiet install --install-lib 
/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib  --install-purelib /usr/local/mailman/pythonlib  
--install-data /usr/local/mailman/pythonlib); \
done
/usr/local/lib/python2.6/distutils/dist.py:250: UserWarning: 'licence' 
distribution option is deprecated; use 'license'
  warnings.warn(msg)
src/hangul.c:33: error: syntax error before numeric constant
src/hangul.c:34: error: syntax error before numeric constant
error: command 'gcc' failed with exit status 1
*** Error code 1
make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `install-packages'
Current working directory /export/home/local/mailman/mailman-2.1.9/misc
*** Error code 1
The following command caused the error:
for d in bin cron misc Mailman scripts src templates messages tests; \
do \
(cd $d; make DESTDIR= install); \
done
make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `doinstall'
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[Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.0.13

2002-09-04 Thread David Sammons


  Hi there!!!

   I´m trying to install MM2.0.9, but when I run:
./configure --with-python=/path/to/python 

   I received the next message: 
Checking for mailman UID...Tracebak(most recent call
last):
   File conftest.py, line 1, in ?
  import pwd, string
   ImportError: ld.so.1: /usr/python/bin/python:
fatal:  libgcc_s.so.1: open failed: No such file or
directory
   cat: cannot open conftest.out

   configure: error:
*** No mailman user found!
*** Your system must have a mailman user defined
*** (usually in your /etc/passwd file). Please see the
INSTALL
*** file for details 


   I´ve create the user mailman and group

   I´m using solaris 7 and python 2.1

   Any ideas

   Thanks


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[Mailman-Users] 2.1 Install Issues

2002-12-31 Thread David LeVine
Hi,

My server is running Solaris 2.8 with Python 2.2.2.  I just downloaded and
installed the 2.1 tarball and I've run into a few issues.  Please point me
to the correct FAQ if I've done something wrong, otherwise, please add them
to the list of things to be addressed:

- Not all of the icons were copied over from the source directory into the
  ~mailman/icons directory during the 'make install'; only the GNU icon was,
  neither the Python nor the mailman icon were.

- All of the subdirectories under ~mailman/{messages,templates} were created
  with permissions 02755 instead of 02775.

- When I create a list and try to change the 'description' under the 'general
  options', the change is ignored.

- When I submit any change under the 'general options', it now pops me back
  to the authentication page (it didn't do this under 2.0.13).

Thanks for any guidance or updates!

David

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Multi-language support

2003-06-23 Thread Tokio Kikuchi
Jeroen Valcke wrote:

Of course I'm on Solaris and the .mo file is missing. :-(
Is there another way to do translations? Is there somewhere a reference.
Here is a patch for srcdir/messages/Makefile.in. You can edit
Makefile directly and skip configure.
--- Makefile.in.origMon Jun 23 19:41:09 2003
+++ Makefile.in Mon Jun 23 19:42:23 2003
@@ -106,7 +106,7 @@
po=$(srcdir)/$$d/LC_MESSAGES/mailman.po; \
mo=$(srcdir)/$$d/LC_MESSAGES/mailman.mo; \
dir=$(DESTDIR)$(prefix)/messages/$$d/LC_MESSAGES; \
-   $(INSTALL) -m $(FILEMODE) $$po $$mo $$dir; \
+   $(INSTALL) -m $(FILEMODE) $$mo $$dir; \
done
 mofiles: $(MOFILES)
==
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Re: [Mailman-Users] No mail is going out

2003-11-30 Thread Angus Claydon
I'm new to this list - working on a solaris install.

I struggled for a while with the same symptoms as you on 2.1.3 .

What clinched it for me was creating the list mailman - my test list only
worked after doing this.
Look at the section Create a site-wide mailing list in INSTALL

hth
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem installing on Solaris 8

2005-12-02 Thread Mark Sapiro
Steve Garcia wrote:

However, when I got to 'make install' it seems there is a problem.  The
install process seems to want to call cc, even though it was not
specified or used in either 'configure' or 'make'.

Here is the error I get:
snip

The error message from cc is the message that you get because the Sun
compiler is not installed.  But why is it being called?  I've tried
taking /usr/ucb out of the path so that there is no cc binary
available, but then I get the error that there is no cc.

Did you try this *before* running configure? I.e. did you rerun
configure after taking /usr/ucb out of the path?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem with Installing Mailman 2.1.9 on Solaris

2007-04-09 Thread David Devereaux-Weber
Hank,

I finally succeeded in getting python and mailman to build and install.  
There were a series of issues.  I had an error in the path for the root 
user, and I had an error in PYTHONHOME for my user.  Since I was using 
the standard location for python, I removed PYTHONHOME, and I fixed the 
path for root (used for make install for python).

Thanks for your patience!

Dave

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[Mailman-Users] What is really required to go from 2.0.x to 2.1.y?

2008-03-14 Thread Christopher Waltham
I am almost hesitant to post this email at all, because I am so amazingly 
confused at what is going on I half-think I'm imagining it.

I have a Mailman 2.0.12 instance (not 2.0.5 as I previously thought, sorry 
Mark) running on a Solaris 8 SPARC server, which I'd planned to move onto a 
Linux RHEL4 x86 server using Mailman 2.1.9. In both cases, Mailman would be 
installed into /home/mailman to minimize configuration changes. In both cases, 
the hostname of the server would be list.bowdoin.edu. In both cases, 
/home/mailman would actually be served via NFS. And, oh yeah, I'm switching 
MTAs too (Postfix to sendmail). 

So, I made a copy of /home/mailman (which is actually on a NetApp) in case I 
had to revert my migration from Solaris to Linux. This was my workflow on the 
Linux server:

* mount a fresh copy of /home/mailman (which is Mailman 0.12 from Solaris)
* rm -rf /home/mailman/Mailman (because I'm switching MTAs)
* configure Mailman 2.1.9 using the following string: ./configure 
--prefix=/home/mailman --with-urlhost=list.bowdoin.edu 
--with-mailhost=list.bowdoin.edu --with-cgi-gid=apache --with-mail-gid=mail
* run make install
* watch as make install runs bin/update, it fails on a couple of lists. 
Remove the offending lists, re-run bin/update, watch it run successfully.
* rm /home/mailman/locks/* ; rm /home/mailman/qfiles/* ; rm 
/home/mailman/data/pending_subscriptions.db just to make sure
* run bin/check_perms -f, watch it run successfully.
* run bin/genaliases, paste output into /etc/aliases, run newaliases
* run bin/mm_sitepass
* run bin/mailmanctl start

The problem is when I run bin/list_members on a list of whose membership I 
know well. Amazingly, when I run that command, I see list members from around 
2-3 years ago; I do not see list members whom I absolutely know are on that 
list. And then, well, I get so confused I can hardly stand. :)

What on earth is going on here? I have seen URLs like 
http://acd.ucar.edu/~fredrick/linux/mailman/upgrading.html and 
http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/msg13279.html with hints 
for migrating server and versions at the same time; specifically running the 
fix_url command to update URLs for archives. But, I'm keeping the same hostname 
(list.bowdoin.edu) from both Solaris and Linux, so I don't bother with this.

Does anyone have the faintest idea of what's going on? It's like I'm seeing a 
ghost. I know that copy of /home/mailman is, pre-upgrade, the same from the Sun 
server to the Linux server because there are unique files in there which I've 
placed myself.

FWIW, I just made *another* copy of the /home/mailman directory from the Sun 
server, mounted it on the Linux server and DID NOT UPGRADE IT. Lo and behold, 
when I run bin/list_members, I see _correct_ users, _not old ones_.

Thoughts? Am I going crazy?

Thanks,


Chris

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman installation on Solaris 10

2009-01-13 Thread Mark Sapiro
Hank van Cleef wrote:

I went through the Mailman web page to find a download site.  Going to
Sourceforge offers only 2.12.rc1 unless you click stable on the
first screen.  I was unable to download either 2.1.11 or 2.1.12 from
Sourceforge.  That site links to Superb Hosting, which appears to be
unresponsive.  I had to get the software from the alternative GNU
site.


It was really slow when I just tried it, but worked eventually, You can
select an alternate mirror on SF.


Both of the Solaris installs include Python 2.4.4.  Whether the
Solaris build is something resembling a full build or not, I don't
know, but will soon find out unless someone has checked this out
before me.  In the past, getting anything resembling a full build of
Python on Solaris has been a labor of love (porting the build
scripts), and I'd prefer not to have to build and install another
version of Python.  


Configure requires distutils be available. It checks that it can

import distutils.errors
import distutils.sysconfig

and also checks for the presence of the Python.h C header file,
normally in /usr/include/pythonx.x/Python.h


I see Mark Sapiro's mail about incompatibility between 2.1.12rc1 and
Python 2.4.  


Good. My production server is running 2.1.12rc1 and Python 2.4.3 with
the addition of the one patch to Scrubber.py. It is just by
coincidence that a post that triggered that problem arrived the same
day I upgraded. Just lucky I guess.

I plan to upgrade that server soon to Python 2.6.1. I've done
everything but 'make install'. It's a good thing I didn't do it before
installing 2.1.12rc1 or that issue would have lurked until you found
it wink.


My production installations have to have an archive search (not part
of Mailman).  In the past, we've used htDig 3.1.6, which is decidedly
long in tooth, particularly as it requires gcc/g++ 2.95.3 to build
(will not build with gcc 3 or above).  For one installation, I'll
filch the already-built binaries.  


I have installed htDig from CVS
http://htdig.cvs.sourceforge.net/htdig/ with gcc 4.1.1.


However, I'll reopen the question of a better (and currently-maintained) 
search engine.  I'm aware of a mail list discussing using Mhonarc and
Mnogosearch, but nothing since the last posts to that site (early
2006).   Is there something newer and better, or is doing the porting
work needed to use Mnogosearch the best alternative available?  One
issue with the current 2.1.9 installation is performance while
searching archives with htDig.  We currently have 5gb of archives, and
archive searches are very popular with our listers. 

I have picked up the patches for htDig-Mailman integration for 2.1.11
and assume I'm on my own for 2.1.12, for the present.  


The patches will apply with some 'offsets' and one 'fuzz'. If you want
a set that applies clean you can get them at
http://www.msapiro.net/mm/index.patch.2.1.12 and
http://www.msapiro.net/mm/htdig.patch.2.1.12 (mirrored at
http://fog.ccsf.edu/~msapiro/mm/index.patch.2.1.12 and
http://fog.ccsf.edu/~msapiro/mm/htdig.patch.2.1.12)

There are also two other patches in that directory named
'nightly_htdig' and 'rundig' which apply after the first two and which
implement updating the htDig database when possible instead of
rebuilding it from scratch every time.


Unless somebody tells me otherwise, I'll assume that I'm the first
installing 2.1.12 on Solaris 10.  That will go on the later (current
rev) machine.  Worth noting that on Solaris 10 10/08, it appears that
sun has included the Studio 12 development system, with the c compiler
in /usr/bin/cc.  While our old nemesis, the BSD stub /usr/bin/cc is
still there, a PATH that has /usr/bin before /usr/ucb should find a
working cc. 

The config.pck files currently on the production system are for 2.1.9.
If I build 2.1.11 and 2.1.12 as fresh builds and installs (no upgrade)
and later copy my 2.1.9 config.pck files into them, will Mailman
detect and correct the configuration?  


Yes. It will detect that they are old and convert them on the fly. In
theory, it will even convert config.db files from Mailman 1.x, but I
won't guarantee that that one is error free.

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[Mailman-Users] ./configure brakes on mailman 2.0.12

2002-07-30 Thread Roberto Colon

Hello there folks:

I am trying to install mailman in a Sun Solaris V9 Sparc Ultra 5 
desktop. I have Python 2.2.1 install and running fine. When I try to 
execute the command ./configure --prefix=/usr/local/mailman it works 
for a few seconds and then brakes with this error:

loading cache ./config.cache
checking for --with-python... no
checking for python... /usr/local/bin/python
checking Python interpreter... /usr/local/bin/python
checking Python version... 2.2.1
checking for a BSD compatible install... ./install-sh -c
checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... yes
checking for true... /usr/bin/true
checking for --without-gcc... no
checking for gcc... no
checking for cc... cc
checking whether the C compiler (cc  ) works... yes
checking whether the C compiler (cc  ) is a cross-compiler... no
checking whether we are using GNU C... no
checking whether cc accepts -g... yes
checking whether #! works in shell scripts... yes
checking for --with-var-prefix... no
checking for --with-username... mailman
checking for mailman UID... 1003
checking for --with-groupname... mailman
checking for mailman GID... 507
checking permissions on /usr/local/mailman... okay
checking for mail wrapper GID... 1
checking for CGI wrapper GID... 60001
checking for CGI extensions... no
./configure: test: unknown operator ==

I have installed and configure mailman 2.0.11 and I am trying to 
upgrade. I have stoped the old mailman version before I try to install 
the newone but that still won't work.

Any thoughts???



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[Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1.[56] installation problem w/ KoreanCodecs

2005-11-27 Thread Christophe Kalt
Hi all,

make install dies with
(cd ./$p ; umask 02 ; PYTHONPATH=/home/mailman/2.1.5/pythonlib 
/usr/local/bin/python setup.py --quiet install --install-lib 
/home/mailman/2.1.5/pythonlib  --install-purelib /home/mailman/2.1.5/pythonlib  
--install-data /home/mailman/2.1.5/pythonlib); \
done
/usr/local/lib/python2.4/distutils/dist.py:222: UserWarning: 'licence' 
distribution option is deprecated; use 'license'
  warnings.warn(msg)
src/hangul.c:33: error: syntax error before numeric constant
src/hangul.c:34: error: syntax error before numeric constant
error: command 'gcc' failed with exit status 1
*** Error code 1

This happens with either 2.1.5 or 2.1.6, various versions of
Python as well.  It's on Solaris 10 with Sun's bundled gcc
(/usr/sfw/bin/gcc).

Rather furstrating.  Is there an easy way to just skip these
codecs i have no use for?
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[Mailman-Users] mailman 2.1.11 install problem

2008-08-21 Thread CJ Keist

Hello,
   I'm upgrading from mailman 2.1.8 to 2.1.11.  Running into a install 
problem, here is what I'm doing:


./configure --prefix=/userM/mail-services/mailman2 
--with-python=/opt/csw/bin/python --with-cgi-gid=15


make

I'm using gcc 3.4.3 on solaris 10 sparc platform

This is the error I'm getting when I do make install

unable to execute cc: No such file or directory
error: command 'cc' failed with exit status 1
*** Error code 1
make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `install-packages'
Current working directory /space/src/mailman-2.1.11/misc
*** Error code 1
The following command caused the error:
for d in bin cron misc Mailman scripts src templates messages tests; \
do \
   (cd $d; make DESTDIR= install); \
done
make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `doinstall'

Had something similar when installing 2.1.8 and back then I just renamed 
/usr/ucb/cc to /usr/ucb/cc.otw


But now it looks like it wants cc for some reason???

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Re: [Mailman-Users] configure mailman on Solaris 8

2002-09-06 Thread Richard Barrett

At 13:48 05/09/2002 -0700, George Crum wrote:
Hello,
I'm having trouble getting configure to run on a Solaris 8 server.  Here is
the configure command that I issue and the resulting error.

./configure --prefix=/export/home/mailman --with-mail-gid=25
--with-cgi-gid=1004

checking for --with-var-prefix... no
checking for --with-username... mailman
checking for mailman UID... Traceback (most recent call last):
   File conftest.py, line 1, in ?
 import pwd, string
ImportError: No module named pwd
cat: cannot open conftest.out

configure: error:
* No mailman user found!
* Your system must have a mailman user defined
* (usually in your /etc/passwd file).  Please see the INSTALL
* file for details.

I have created the user mailman and a group called mailman.  Plus created
the home directory /export/home/mailman.

Has anyone out there compiled Mailman on Solaris 8?

- George Crum

This looks line a python installation problem and not a Mailman specific 
problem.

pwd is a standard python module used to access the password database on 
Unix systems and the error message you are getting is python saying that 
the module cannot be imported.

You can confirm (or deny) this proposition by running python from the 
command line and trying to use pwd. For instance on my test system I get:

[testsys!/u/barrett]:python
Python 1.5.2 (#12, Oct 15 1999, 16:24:36) [C] on sunos5
Copyright 1991-1995 Stichting Mathematisch Centrum, Amsterdam
  import pwd
  pwd.getpwnam('barrett')
('barrett', 'x', 500, 101, 'Richard Barrett', '/u/barrett', 
'/usr/local/bin/bash')
  pwd.getpwnam('mailman')
('mailman', 'x', 601, 601, 'Mailman Maillist Manager account', 
'/u/mailman', '/usr/local/bin/bash')
 

If you get an import failure after typing the import pwd line then you need 
to look to your python installation for the problem.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on Solaris-based web server

2004-10-19 Thread Brad Knowles
At 4:42 PM -0400 2004-10-18, John Wheaton wrote:
 I am curious whether Mailman will work on Solaris,
	Yes, it will work on Solaris.  See 
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq01.024.htp 
for some information on this topic.

and how best to
 integrate it with our current web site.
	That's a tougher question.  How do you want it to integrate with 
your web site?

 Can Mailman be installed alongside our website? In other words, is it
 self contained?
Yes.
  Can its bin and lib files, for example, be installed
 in our web directory, and still allow Mailman to function?
	Do you mean as an unprivileged user?  No, that won't work. 
Mailman needs to be installed as it's own userid/groupid, which needs 
to be the same that will be used by the web server and the mail 
server, at least for the Mailman-related functions.

 Our other possible solution is to host the mailing lists on one of our
 own Linux servers, if the app cannot be installed on our host's server.
 Since we run Exchange Server, I am trying to simplify matters by hosting
 the mailing lists offsite, though.
	You're running Exchange Server on Linux?!?  If you've got a Linux 
box somewhere and you have privileged access to that machine, you can 
install and run Mailman there.  The Linux box should have the 
software you will need to interface with Mailman, typically something 
like Apache (for the web server) and sendmail or postfix (for the 
mail server).

	Exchange would be something run somewhere else, presumably on a 
Windows server of some sort.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on Solaris-based web server

2004-10-19 Thread Richard Barrett
On 19 Oct 2004, at 19:50, Brad Knowles wrote:
At 4:42 PM -0400 2004-10-18, John Wheaton wrote:
 I am curious whether Mailman will work on Solaris,
	Yes, it will work on Solaris.  See 
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq01.024.htp 
for some information on this topic.

and how best to
 integrate it with our current web site.
	That's a tougher question.  How do you want it to integrate with your 
web site?

 Can Mailman be installed alongside our website? In other words, is it
 self contained?
Yes.
  Can its bin and lib files, for example, be installed
 in our web directory, and still allow Mailman to function?
	Do you mean as an unprivileged user?  No, that won't work. Mailman 
needs to be installed as it's own userid/groupid, which needs to be 
the same that will be used by the web server and the mail server, at 
least for the Mailman-related functions.
Not so. But you do need to specify what gid the MTA will run the MM 
delivery script under and what gid the Web Server will run Mailman's 
cgi scripts as.


 Our other possible solution is to host the mailing lists on one of 
our
 own Linux servers, if the app cannot be installed on our host's 
server.
 Since we run Exchange Server, I am trying to simplify matters by 
hosting
 the mailing lists offsite, though.
	You're running Exchange Server on Linux?!?  If you've got a Linux box 
somewhere and you have privileged access to that machine, you can 
install and run Mailman there.  The Linux box should have the software 
you will need to interface with Mailman, typically something like 
Apache (for the web server) and sendmail or postfix (for the mail 
server).

	Exchange would be something run somewhere else, presumably on a 
Windows server of some sort.

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[Mailman-Users] Syntax error encountered on install

2003-04-06 Thread Jonathan Bentley
Hi,

  Any help with the following would be greatly appreciated:
  
  I'm trying to install Mailman 2.1.1
  My python executable is in /usr/local/bin/python  
  I have configured with parameters: ./configure --prefix=/sw/mailman/2.1.1 
--with-mail-gid=mail --with-cgi-gid=www
  I am using solaris 8.
  
  When I run the command make install it gives the following:
  
Creating language directory /sw/mailman/2.1.1/messages/ru/LC_MESSAGES
Creating language directory /sw/mailman/2.1.1/messages/sv/LC_MESSAGES
for f in ./test*.py ./*Base.py; \
do \
/usr/local/bin/install -c -m 644 $f /sw/mailman/2.1.1/tests; \
done
for f in ./onebounce.py ./fblast.py; \
do \
/usr/local/bin/install -c -m 755 $f /sw/mailman/2.1.1/tests; \
done
for d in bounces msgs; \
do \
(cd $d; make install); \
done
for f in ./*.txt; \
do \
/usr/local/bin/install -c -m 644 $f /sw/mailman/2.1.1/tests/bounces; \
done
for f in ./*.txt; \
do \
/usr/local/bin/install -c -m 644 $f /sw/mailman/2.1.1/tests/msgs; \
done
/usr/local/bin/python -c 'from compileall import *; 
compile_dir(/sw/mailman/2.1.1/Mailman)'
  File string, line 1
from
   ^
SyntaxError: invalid syntax
*** Error code 1
make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `doinstall'

  
   I get the same syntax error if I run /usr/local/python -c 'from compileall import 
*'  at the command line.  This seems 
to indicate it's a problem with Python.  Any advice would be great.  
   
   Cheers.
 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman-2.1.9 on Solaris 8: /bin/sh: /bin/update:cannot execute

2007-10-12 Thread Mark Sapiro
gregben wrote:

I'm having trouble with

# make install

The last few lines of output are:

Compiling /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/htmlformat.py ...
Compiling /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/i18n.py ...
Compiling /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/versions.py ...
/bin/sh: bin/update: cannot execute
make: *** [update] Error 1
#

The file bin/update contained:

#! @PYTHON@

in the shebang line.


Something is wrong here, because make install should be running
bin/update from the installation ($prefix) directory, and all the
scripts in that directory should have been installed from configure's
build/ directory and should have had the @PYTHON@
 in the shebang line changed to an actual path by configure.


I changed this to:

#!/usr/local/bin/python

and this allows me to execute /bin/update from the command line
but the make install still fails so I must barking up the wrong tree.


/bin/update ? or do you mean $prefix/bin/update ?

bin/update is the very last thing run by make install, so if make
install fails in running bin/update, and you fix the problem and run
bin/update successfully, you are done.

How does make install fail the second time? The same way?

There are 3 bin/update files (if you run configure and make correctly)

1) bin/update in the unpack-configure directory with a #! @PTHHON@
shebang

2) build/bin/update in the unpack-configure directory created by
configure with a proper path in the shebang

3) bin/update in the installation ($prefix) directory installed from 2)
by make install.

It is 3) that is run at the end of make install.

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[Mailman-Users] mailman 2.1.11 install problem

2008-08-21 Thread CJ Keist

One more thing,
   I just tried to link cc to gcc but then get the following when I try 
to install:


cc: language arch=v8 not recognized
cc: src/_japanese_codecs.c: linker input file unused because linking not 
done
cc: build/temp.solaris-2.10-sun4v-2.5/src/_japanese_codecs.o: No such 
file or directory

error: command 'cc' failed with exit status 1
*** Error code 1
make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `install-packages'
Current working directory /space/src/mailman-2.1.11/misc
*** Error code 1
The following command caused the error:
for d in bin cron misc Mailman scripts src templates messages tests; \
do \
(cd $d; make DESTDIR= install); \
done
make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `doinstall'


---

Hello,
   I'm upgrading from mailman 2.1.8 to 2.1.11.  Running into a install
problem, here is what I'm doing:

./configure --prefix=/userM/mail-services/mailman2
--with-python=/opt/csw/bin/python --with-cgi-gid=15

make

I'm using gcc 3.4.3 on solaris 10 sparc platform

This is the error I'm getting when I do make install

unable to execute cc: No such file or directory
error: command 'cc' failed with exit status 1
*** Error code 1
make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `install-packages'
Current working directory /space/src/mailman-2.1.11/misc
*** Error code 1
The following command caused the error:
for d in bin cron misc Mailman scripts src templates messages tests; \
do \
   (cd $d; make DESTDIR= install); \
done
make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `doinstall'

Had something similar when installing 2.1.8 and back then I just renamed
/usr/ucb/cc to /usr/ucb/cc.otw

But now it looks like it wants cc for some reason???

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[Mailman-Users] Cannot install Mailman 2.1: bin/update fails (Solaris 9, Python 2.2.2)

2003-01-14 Thread Frank Thommen
Hi,

I don't succeed in installing Mailman 2.1.  'make install' fails with the following 
messages:

# make install
[...]
Compiling /home/mailman/Mailman//Mailman/versions.py ...
bin/update: downgrade is detected), nothing will be done.^J^J-h/--help^J
Print this text and exit.^J^JUse this script to help you update to the latest release 
of Mailman from^Jsome previous version.  It knows about versions back to 1.0b4 
(?).^J: not found
bin/update: Perform all necessary upgrades.^J^JUsage: %(PROGRAM)s 
[options]^J^JOptions:^J-f/--force^JForce running the upgrade procedures.  
Normally, if the version number^Jof the installed Mailman matches the current 
version number (or a^J: not found
bin/update: import: not found
bin/update: import: not found
bin/update: import: not found
bin/update: import: not found
bin/update: import: not found
bin/update: import: not found
bin/update: import: not found
bin/update: import: not found
bin/update: import: not found
bin/update: from: not found
bin/update: from: not found
bin/update: from: not found
bin/update: from: not found
bin/update: from: not found
bin/update: from: not found
bin/update: from: not found
bin/update: from: not found
bin/update: FRESH: not found
bin/update: NOTFRESH: not found
bin/update: syntax error at line 58: `(' unexpected
make: *** [update] Error 2
#

I tried with Mailman 2.1 tarballs from list.org and from sourceforge.  For 'make' I 
used solaris make and gnu make (3.80).  Python is a freshly installed Python 2.2.2.  
Compiler is gcc 2.95.3.  There is no Mailman installed on the system yet.

It seems to me, that there might be a Python syntax error in bin/update, but since I 
don't know Python, I'm not sure about it.

Any hints, where the problem could come from or where I could start to look for a 
solution?

Thanks in advance
  
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Re: [Mailman-Users] problem upgrading from 2.0.11 to 2.1.8 on Solaris 9with Python 2.4

2006-06-26 Thread Mark Sapiro
Kralizec Craig wrote:

I'm updating a mailman installation which is currently 2.0.11 running 
under Solaris 9 on a Sun Sparc system

I've compiled mailman-2.1.8 without a problem but when I went to install it, 
it's aborted part-way through the update process with this error:

 start 

Updating Mailman 2.0 pending_subscriptions.db database
Traceback (most recent call last):

   File bin/update, line 789, in ?
 errors = main()
   File bin/update, line 713, in main
 update_pending()
   File bin/update, line 592, in update_pending
 addr = data[0].address
AttributeError: 'str' object has no attribute 'address'
gmake: *** [update] Error 1

 stop 

I made sure that the web server and mail server are turned off before 
trying to install the new version of the software...

Could this be an unknown problem when updating from 2.0.11, or is it 
something more insidious - perhaps a problem with Python itself?


I'm not sure if this is a Mailman issue or if there is some specific
problem with your data/pending.db file. I would have to research the
actual pending.db format for 2.0.11 to answer this for sure, but I
think Mailman is OK.

update is trying to convert a pending subscription request from  2.0.11
format to the current pending.pck per list format and at the point of
the error, data[0] is supposed to be a UserDesc instance and it is a
string.

If you are willing to abandon any unconfirmed subscribe, unsubscribe,
address change or delivery re-enable requests or confirmation of held
messages (I think they'll still be in the admindb web interface), you
can just rename or move aside the data/pending.db file and rerun
'bin/update' which is the only part of the install that didn't
complete.


The machine used to have Python 2.2 installed but before starting the 
mailman upgrade I upgraded Python from 2.2 to 2.4. Maybe backing that out 
by re-installing Python 2.2 will help?


I don't think so.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Linux Preferred?

2009-01-28 Thread Hank van Cleef
The esteemed Brad Knowles has said:
 
 on 1/27/09 9:07 AM, Tim Ferguson said:
 
  Is there a preferred flavor of Linux that Mailman seems to work and
  install the best with?  I'm trying Ubuntu, but the apt-get feature is
  getting hung up on trying to find the repositories and can't, so,
  until I get that fixed I just thought I'd ask.
 
 If you're installing from our source, then most any recent version of 
 Linux should work fine.  If you're installing from someone else's binary 
 packages, then you are dependent on the person doing the packaging -- 
 they have to keep up with our releases, back-port patches, etc
 
 
 On python.org, where we host all the official mailman-* mailing lists, 
 Debian works just fine.  But we run the version from our own source, and 
 not the binary packaged version.
 
I have to put in another plug for building Mailman from sources vs.
doing a prepackaged install built by somebody else.   I have just
built and installed Mailman 2.1.11 and 2.1.12rc1 on Solaris 10
following the installation guide at

http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-install/index.html

If you've got an appropriate Python installed and have a compiler on
the build machine, actually configuring, building, and installing the
Mailman application is the easiest part of the job.  The remainder are
very straightforward systems administration tasks to get the mailman
account set up properly and get correct permissions on everything.  

We also built Mailman 2.1.9 on a Debian machine a couple of years ago.
Another guy did the work and had problems because he did not follow
the Installation Guide completely.  I was asked to audit and correct
things, which involved no more than correcting group name and
permissions as outlined in the Installation Guide.  

I have always been an advocate for building from source rather than
using prepackaged as the default choice for add-on programs.  Only
when I trust a pre-built package (as with the sendmail and bind in the
Solaris distribution) do I use a prepackaged version.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] solaris10 sparc, check_perms messages

2010-12-11 Thread upen
Hi,



On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 9:33 PM, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote:
 upen wrote:

This is my first attempt to install Mailman-2.1.14 on solaris10/sparc.
HAving installed pythin-2.6.2 and gcc4 I then successfull did y
configure, gmake, gmake install. However, when I run bin/check_perms I
receive below messages.

-bash-3.00# ./bin/check_perms
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File ./bin/check_perms, line 395, in module
    checkmail()
  File ./bin/check_perms, line 293, in checkmail
    mode = statmode(wrapper)
  File ./bin/check_perms, line 82, in statmode
    return os.stat(path)[ST_MODE]
OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 
'/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman'


 Presumably this is because the mail wrapper has some other name,
 perhaps
 /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman.exe, but why? Or is there no
 /usr/local/mailman/mail/* mail wrapper at all?

Yes, surprisingly there was no mailman file or directory in
/usr/local/mailman/mail after installation. However, I later decided
not to use python package and gcc4 provided by Blastwave CSW and
infact removed all references to csw/lib and csw/bin from PATH and
LD_LIBRARY_PATH and decided to use old gcc version from /usr/local/bin
and python from /usr/sfw/bin and installed Mailman again. This way
everything is working fine. In fact check_perms also worked fine this
time. :)



Can someone throw some light on this issue?


 It may be a bug in check_perms. What options did you give to configure?
 What is the name of the mail wrapper file in /usr/local/mailman/mail/?


In addition, if there is
any howto or install document on internet for Mailman on solaris 10
then please let me know that too.


 Try
 http://www.google.com/#q=site:mail.python.org+inurl%3Amailman+solaris
 10

Thanks much. Issue resolved.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Installation / Web Interface Error

2002-03-13 Thread Alan Mizrahi


I think the problem is with your SSL libraries.
Are you using static or dynamic SSL libraries? Did you remove the dynamic
libraries after installing?
Maybe its just a matter of setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH.


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On Wed, 13 Mar 2002, Jeffrey M. Johnson wrote:

 I have run Mailman for a couple of years on a old Solaris on Intel box and
 have recently purchased a new Sun Netra X1 to run my mail programs.

 Currently I am running Solaris 2.8, Mailman 2.0.8, Python 2.1, openssl
 0.9.6c

 During the 'make install' one of the last lines is
 /usr/bin/env: No such file or Directory
 However there is no amplification of this error else where.


 When I attempt to access Mailman via the web interface I get teh Bug in
 Mailman...

 The error log contains the following error (hand typed here)
 admin(9415): ImportError: ld.so.1: /usr/local/bin/python: fatal: relocation
 error: file /usr/local/lib/python2.1/lib-dynload/_socket.so: symbol
 SSL_set_fd referenced symbol not found

 Any Ideas?

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[Mailman-Users] Problems installing mailman on Solaris 8

2002-12-12 Thread Alex Heatley
Hi all,

We are attempting to install mailman on a solaris 8 box. We installed python via a 
package from sunfreeware.com and compiled and installed mailman from source. 

However when we try to access the admin script, we get the following error:
admin(11198): [- Traceback --]
admin(11198): Traceback (most recent call last):
admin(11198):   File /usr/local/mailman/scripts/driver, line 80, in run_main
admin(11198): import Mailman.pythonlib.cgi
admin(11198):   File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/pythonlib/cgi.py, line 35, in ?
admin(11198): from StringIO import StringIO
admin(11198): ImportError: cannot import name StringIO
admin(11198): [- Python Information -]

which is a complete mystery to us, a web search and a search of the archives reveals 
that this problem has been reported before in 2001 but no solution was provided, just 
the question. 

Has anyone got a suggestion for how we can resolve this? What are we doing wrong?

Thanks


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[Mailman-Users] Please you help me !!

2002-09-09 Thread phlin



Hi:

 I am now install mailman ,but there are some 
problem when configuation.
Can you help me ?
The Errer is :
 ms1% ./configure loading cache 
./config.cache checking for --with-python... no checking for 
python... /usr/local/bin/python checking Python interpreter... 
/usr/local/bin/python checking Python version... 2.2.1 
checking for a BSD compatible install... ./install-sh -c checking 
whether make sets ${MAKE}... yes checking for true... 
/bin/true checking for --without-gcc... no checking for 
gcc... gcc checking whether the C compiler (gcc ) works... 
yes checking whether the C compiler (gcc ) is a 
cross-compiler... no checking whether we are using GNU C... 
yes checking whether gcc accepts -g... yes checking whether 
#! works in shell scripts... yes checking for --with-var-prefix... 
no checking for --with-username... mailmanchecking for 
mailman UID... Traceback (most recent call last):  File 
"conftest.py", line 1, in ?  import 
pwd ImportError: No module named pwd 
cat: cannot open conftest.out
 configure: 
error: * No "mailman" user found!
 * Your system must have a 
"mailman" user defined * (usually in your 
/etc/passwd file). Please see the INSTALL 
* file for details.

Note: My system is Solaris 2.8 ,python have installed, 
andusername "mailman" have created , why have the error message 
!!!

Thanks!!

Ann Lin


Re: [Mailman-Users] Please you help me !!

2002-09-09 Thread Michael Pike

Simple...

as root... go to your shell and type:

adduser mailman

thats it.


On Mon, 2002-09-02 at 03:37, phlin wrote:
 Hi:
 
I am now install mailman ,but there are some problem when configuation.
 Can you help me ?
 The Errer is :
   ms1% ./configure
   loading cache ./config.cache
   checking for --with-python... no
   checking for python... /usr/local/bin/python
   checking Python interpreter... /usr/local/bin/python
   checking Python version... 2.2.1
   checking for a BSD compatible install... ./install-sh -c
   checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... yes
   checking for true... /bin/true
   checking for --without-gcc... no
   checking for gcc... gcc
   checking whether the C compiler (gcc  ) works... yes
   checking whether the C compiler (gcc  ) is a cross-compiler... no
   checking whether we are using GNU C... yes
   checking whether gcc accepts -g... yes
   checking whether #! works in shell scripts... yes
   checking for --with-var-prefix... no
   checking for --with-username... mailman
   checking for mailman UID... Traceback (most recent call last):
 File conftest.py, line 1, in ?
   import pwd
 ImportError: No module named pwd
 cat: cannot open conftest.out
  configure: error:
  * No mailman user found!
  * Your system must have a mailman user defined
  * (usually in your /etc/passwd file).  Please see the INSTALL
  * file for details.
 
 Note: My system is Solaris 2.8 ,python have installed, and username mailman have 
created , why have the error message !!!
 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] how I install

2003-09-14 Thread Daniel J McDonald
On Sun, 2003-09-14 at 01:58, Arvinda Agarwal wrote:
 How I install Mailman on my server, can any buddy tell me plz.

I just checked the mailman package when I put Mandrake Linux on my
system.  You can, on a mandrake box, just do:
root# urpmi mailman
and it should go find the latest integrated version and install it,
nicely integrated with postfix.

However, that might not work for you, since your server might be running
some other flavor of Linux, one of the BSD family, a commerical unix
like Solaris, AIX, HP/UX or Tru-64, maybe a nice old VMS box, maybe
Novell, or even some hideous code that sprang unbidden from the depths
of Redmond Washington.  And even if we knew which OS you were running,
we wouldn't know if you were running sendmail, postfix, exim, qmail,
pmdf, groupwise, cc:mail or exchange as your MTA.

Without knowing a bit more about your server, we can't tell you how to
install it.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman install problem

2007-01-23 Thread Mark Sapiro
Piniella, David A wrote:

I'm trying to install mailman 2.1.9 on a Solaris 10 x86 machine and I'm
running into problems with make install.
I have no cc installed, I am using GCC 3.4.5 which I've installed from
blastwave.org; python is 2.3.5. 

I've searched the archives of the list and hit up google to no avail,
any suggestion(s) or hints would be most appreciated, I'm ready to scrap
this install. I don't know if it's something funky in Sol10's make or
maybe mailman's expecting gcc to be cc (see unable to execute cc: No
such file or directory \ error: command 'cc' failed with exit status 1
-- I did NOT specify the --with-gcc=no option during the configure).


configure should find an appropriate C compiler and taylor the Makefile
appropriately. Were there any errors from configure. What does
config.log say about the C compiler?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Gmane ?

2010-01-19 Thread Terri Oda

John Fitzsimons wrote:

I have also contributed to public, and private, newsgroup servers for
more than ten years now. However, I am not a unix expert and I do 
not have root access to a unix server.  


Incidentally, if the problem is just one of access to a unix machine, 
the Systers group had a really nice little set up where they had a linux 
virtual machine, running mailman, set up to run in virtualbox.  That 
meant we could do testing on all the laptops: mac/windows/solaris/etc.


I totally understand if you don't have time to learn all this stuff, but 
if you're willing to learn, you can install virtualbox 
(http://www.virtualbox.org/), get a linux vm (or install one yourself -- 
I usually recommend Ubuntu for a quick and easy install), and install 
Mailman.  It's a bit time consuming, but it's not actually as hard as 
instructions make it sound, generally speaking.


There may be some instructions or links to the vms we were using here 
(or elsewhere in the systers wiki):


http://systers.org/systers-soc/doku.php/getting_started

With all your testing experience, it'd be totally awesome if you could 
grab the new mailman 3 alpha and test that!  And at worst, if you don't 
manage to get it running, you're still testing the instructions and 
that's still totally useful. :)


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Re: [Mailman-Users] error while running make install

2012-03-07 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 3/7/2012 2:54 PM, Con Wieland wrote:
 I get the following error while running make install on Solaris 10 trying to 
 install mailman-2.1.14-1
 
 any help would be appreciated. I see other folks with the error but no 
 solutions
[...]
 for p in   ; \
 do \
[...]


Your Python installation is new enough that none of the special
pythonlib packages need to be installed. Thus, configure has created
misc/Makefile containing

EMAILPKG=   
JACODECSPKG=
KOCODECSPKG=

PACKAGES= $(EMAILPKG) $(JACODECSPKG) $(KOCODECSPKG)

so that PACKAGES is empty resulting in

for p in $(PACKAGES); \

being seen as

 for p in   ; \

and whatever shell your version of make uses doesn't like this.

You might try setting

SHELL=/bin/bash

or the path to whatever shell will successfully accept

for p in  ; do echo xxx $p xxx; done

and produce no output at the beginning of misc/Makefile or just at the
command level before running 'make install'.

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[Mailman-Users] Integrating Sendmail and Solaris (installation guide)

2007-03-11 Thread vancleef
Mailman, in its default configuration, readily integrates with a
properly-configured sendmail installation.  

The discussion below gives specific file locations for a Solaris 9
installation.  Solaris 10 locates the sendmail control file sources in
/etc/mail/cf rather than /usr/lib/mail/cf.  Locations of the sendmail
executable and ancillary files are compile-time options for sendmail,
so you will need to determine file locations for your specific
installation.  In our discussion, we also assume that the sendmail MTA
that communicates with the Internet backbone and Mailman are installed
on the same node (same hardware box).  

Steps required for a Mailman-sendmail integration:

1. Enable smrsh. Creating the directory links was covered in the
previous installation step.  In addition, assure that the link to the
smrsh program is declared in main.mc. (/usr/lib/mail/cf/main.mc on a
Solaris 9 system).

FEATURE(smrsh, /usr/lib/smrsh)dnl

2. For each list that you create, you need to add a set of alias
pipes to the aliases file (typically /etc/mail/aliases) and run the
newaliases program (/usr/sbin/newaliases).  If you are following this
guide for an initial Mailman installation, you will not be creating 
lists until later steps.  Mailman will give you the alias information
when you create a list.  Additionaly, the $(prefix)/bin/genaliases
script will generate all of aliases needed for all lists that have
been created to stdout.  These are in the correct format for the
sendmail aliases file.  

3. Set up sendmail masquerading to correspond to the Mailman
configuration.  For example, if your installation is on a machine
known as myhost.mydomain.net and you create a list to receive mail
at [EMAIL PROTECTED], you will need to masquerade as mydomain.net.
You will also need to masquerade the sending envelope as well.  
In its simplest form, the statements in main.mc for doing this are:

MASQUERADE_AS(`mydomain.net')dnl
FEATURE(`masquerade_envelope')dnl

4. Add the masquerade address to /etc/mail/local-host-names. For the
example above, the local-host-names file must have:

mydomain.net

The above four items cover the basics needed to integrate Mailman with
a simple sendmail installation.  Except for the need to enable smrsh
and to install piping aliases, virtually everything surrounding a
Mailman installation supported by the sendmail MTA is specific to
sendmail, and some of the above is abstracted from sendmail
documentation.  

This documentation includes:

The README included in the sendmail source distribution from
http://www.sendmail.org/

Costales, Bryan: Sendmail, 3rd edition, O'Reilly, 2002
This is commonly referred to as the bat book.

Costales, Bryan: Sendmail 8.13 Companion, O'Reilly, 2006

Additional resources are the web site and sendmail faq at:
http://www.sendmail.org/
Usenet newsgroup comp.mail.sendmail

For convenience, we include comments here on sendmail configuration
considerations that often come up on the mailman-users list.  
References are to Costales, Sendmail.  

A general guiding principle when working with sendmail is to keep it
simple.  In particular, configure and test your sendmail installation
thoroughly, with user accounts running simple MUA's such as elm or
mutt, before expecting sendmail to work with Mailman.  Virtually all
of the problems users encounter with sendmail are visible to simple
MUA testing.  

In particular, do ALL of your sendmail configuration through the M4
macro files, rather than attempting to read and edit the .cf files.  
Since your M4 files will quickly become site-specific, we recommend
copying the the full M4 setup to a local directory, and managing the
configuration from there.  This will prevent a sendmail upgrade from 
overlaying your site's configuration, something that has historically
been a problem to Solaris users, where a sendmail upgrade is included
in a patch cluster.  

Management of sendmail .cf files through the M4 files is discussed in
Sendmail chapter 4.  

Virtual Domain handling:  This refers to the case where a server 
at mydomain.net handles mail for otherdomain.com.  The authoritative
DNS for otherdomain.com is set with A and/or MX records pointing to
the same IP as that for mydomain.net.

Handling this in sendmail is straightforward.  Masquerading is covered
in detail in Sendmail section 4.4, pp160ff.  However, the discussion
does not give a complete main.mc file masquerading configuration, which 
we include here for convenience:

MASQUERADE_AS(`mydomain.net')dnl
FEATURE(`masquerade_entire_domain')dnl
FEATURE(`limited_masquerade')dnl
LOCAL_DOMAIN(`mydomain.net otherdomain.com')dnl
MASQUERADE_DOMAIN(`mydomain.net')dnl

In short, you include all of the domain names you are handling, but
only specify masquerading for domains where you need a nodename
removed from the canonical name.  

You also need to add the additional domain(s) to
/etc/mail/local-host-names; each domain name on a separate line.

Note that local-host-names is actually

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