co.) imitated this style of argumentation. I have
spent a fair amount of time extracting the usable from the offal.
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CeJ jannuzi --
RD:
You certainly cannot understand Marx without understanding the Young
Hegelian milieu. The Second International Marxists never understood it
and Engels' pamphlet on Feuerbach did not provide sufficient
information and perspective.
Agreed, but one 'popular' view that we often
Charles Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/19/2008 1:46 PM
CeJ jannuzi --
RD:
You certainly cannot understand Marx without understanding the Young
Hegelian milieu. The Second International Marxists never understood it
and Engels' pamphlet on Feuerbach did not provide sufficient
information and
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CeJ
Engels and later Lenin (and Lenin had real revolutionary practices to
get a grip on) end up with their materialist drawers tied into
idealist knots dealing with Marx's conception
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Subject: Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Iyenkov on Hegel
You certainly cannot understand Marx without understanding the Young Hegelian
milieu. The Second International Marxists never understood it and Engels'
pamphlet on Feuerbach did not provide sufficient information
Iyenkov on Hegel
CeJ
Engels and later Lenin (and Lenin had real revolutionary practices to
get a grip on) end up with their materialist drawers tied into
idealist knots dealing with Marx's conception of 'materialism'
vis-a-vis the physical sciences.
CB: If you are more specific we can
Popper's work on
scientific methods and induction is formidable and some of the most
important after Hume, Mills and Peirce.
I meant 'J.S. Mill' here, but I was reading a wikipedia article on
Hayley Mills at the time.
CJ
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^^^
CB: Cause he [Popper] was doing anti-communist/anti-Soviet hack
work .
^^^
The interesting post-modern aspect of Popper for me is that he
opened
up 'anglo-analytic' philosophy of science to
Closing up a real problem with reference in my discourse:
These two could be called 'Hegelian' Marxists, or Marxists who stress
the importance of Hegel in Marx and Marxism, not just in young Marx,
but in Marx-Engels' subsequent 'return' to Hegel.
'These two' should refer to 'Lukacs and Korsch'.
RD:
You certainly cannot understand Marx without understanding the Young
Hegelian milieu. The Second International Marxists never understood it
and Engels' pamphlet on Feuerbach did not provide sufficient
information and perspective.
Agreed, but one 'popular' view that we often are asked to
CeJ [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/16/2008 10:43 PM
http://www.marxists.org/archive/ilyenkov/works/essays/essay7.htm
The sole path to a real, critical mastering of Hegel's conception of
thought lay through a revolutionary, critical attitude to the world of
alienation, i.e. to the world of
of a degenerating narcissistic liberalism (Rorty) and
pseudo-leftism. I too am selective and choose to select more rewarding material.
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The materialist doctrine that men are products of circumstances and upbringing,
and that, therefore, changed men are products of changed circumstances and
changed upbringing, forgets that it is men who change circumstances and that
the educator must himself be educated. Hence this doctrine is
http://www.marxists.org/archive/ilyenkov/works/essays/essay7.htm
The sole path to a real, critical mastering of Hegel's conception of
thought lay through a revolutionary, critical attitude to the world of
alienation, i.e. to the world of commodity-capitalist relations. Only
along that path could
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