h Mer, both organisationally, policy and code-wise.
Along with that, my role as maemo.org distmaster in communication of
licensing change requests with Nokia to help community development and
many other things.
Regards,
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maemo.org distmaster
_
> and will certainly be topic of discussion at the next steering group meeting
> (which I believe is this friday)
So since this comes with a few days warning - when, where and how will
this meeting be? (IRC, conference call, etc)?
Regards,
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s, It was my finding that those willing to
compromise were the best to collaborate even in an environment with
many different attitudes, devices and approaches - towards the common
goal of a open source platform.
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>
> On Mar 19, 2010, at 9:43 PM, Carsten Munk wrote:
>
>> 2. We are willing to compromise on our ideology short-term and in the
>> long-term help hardware vendors towards open source.
>
> You're willing to compromise. I'm not.
&
not
as practical and easy.
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MeeGo. We don't have high
hopes with UX, but let us see where this leads. It can also be a good
way for new contributors to get familiar with MeeGo porting to ARM
devices.
You can follow and participate here:
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=48929
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we'll sort them out together. I know they are not perfect
but should work with the bare instructions under Fedora.
FWIW, I had same problems as some of you report regarding pykickstart
- I normally use Ubuntu as my desktop, Fedora as chroot.
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mparable to rootstraps. Use the standard kickstart
files for generating system images.
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ant a compelling system right after a
port has been made. That's where MeeGo can shine - being a sane
handset/netbook/etc OS that works with a minimal of porting.
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[1] http://hackthejoggler.freeforums.org/working-mer-linux-t93.html
[2] http://hackthejoggler.freeforum
ted to the proposal, don't let it become a flamewar.
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http://wiki.meego.com/Developing_in_a_Meego_Environment#Setting_up_your_development_environment
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ot;
In the following, team/group/WGs/appointed groups of people is shorted
to 'team'. MeeGo project is defined as any direct work going into the
open MeeGo project.
Contact person for proposal: Carsten Munk, maemo.org distmaster,
Stskeeps on IRC.
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[1]
(http:
overs how to make kernel patches and a
brief mention of the seperation between a generic config with common
options and then having kernel configs which inherits from the generic
config.
Also, 'CONFIG_X86_32=y' in config-generic?
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2010/4/20 Greg KH :
> On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 05:05:24PM +0200, Carsten Munk wrote:
>> Is there any HOWTO/Documentation on how to add a new kernel
>> configuration (generally, not only ARM) into the packaging from
>> http://meego.gitorious.org/meego-os-base/kernel-source?
>
--config=Devel-ia32.ks
> --format=livecd --cache=mycache" according to the "Image Creation For
> Beginners", but the error info is
Hi,
the 'developer' images there should be either --format fs or --format
loop, as they are only for building packages, not actually launc
;
> Why it happens?
Hi,
You need to download the development branch of mic2 - the feature for
chrooting into a loopback image was not submitted in time for 0.17
release.
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;re seeing might
just be a bug.
Should Handset compositor be executing a xrandr call to adjust
rotation? I think perhaps it only should in case of standard X11
applications.
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tor and images of the
> 'fs' type(?)
I saw the same problem in very early days of N900 with -f fs too.
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Use -f raw
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ant to understand the software architecture of QT+X11+OpenGL ES in MeeGo.
> Any docs available?
>
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2010/11/24 Leo :
> http://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5616
> please look at this bug, I found there is a bug same as mine.
>
>
Could you tell what device (specifically, what SoC/chipset?) this is from?
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're running into bug 5616 alright - we don't know exactly
what causes it. If we use the SGX driver from Nokia N900 + it's
libraries, the problem does not manifest.
Could you note down the version of SGX drivers/GFX package you use in
the bug report?
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pretty much same image as N900, but drop in 'official' TI OMAP3 GFX,
the fonts corrupt. We've seen that when using the N900 sgx drivers on
Beagleboard, this problem doesn't manifest..
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I'd like us to use same SGX driver on all OMAP3 devices, yes. We've
verified it worked on Beagle, but it requires that everyone uses the
same kernel side driver too, that is, you should be working with the
MeeGo kernel directly and contribute there.
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2010/11/24 joern
ture ABI-compatible innovations.
* Compliant applications will be default armv7hl, but provided your
device can handle it, repositories/app stores/etc can also offer
armv7hln packages of the same application. This means application
vendors can optimize applications if they have a benefit for it,
'exchange area' for daily acceptance/sanity testing images for QA, or
development images, while there has been no legal need to not have
this in public.
So a 'MeeGo.com' exchange area could come in handy.
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the MeeGo release
process. If something is released from repo.meego.com it should be
quality.
We did it like this in the N900 hardware adaptation, starting out as a
quite broken proof of concept of MeeGo on ARM, evolving into something
part of the release process and now automatically generated alongside
the rest.
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2010/12/1 Clark, Joel :
>
> Carsten Munk wrote:
>>> Joel Clark wrote:
>>> I don't get it either. If the "long-time, active community member"
>>> is willing to build, test, upload, >> distribute and deal with problems
>>> from any
e? I think there's many teams around who's
not sure where they should put on-going MeeGo work and be a part of
the release process.
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2010/12/1 joern :
> Hi,
> Is there any Command to rotate the screen manually?
> Or any other why to get the screen rotated during developement on a real
> Hardware device?
Try Ctrl-shift-R
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Hi,
For future reference, meego-port...@meego.com is a more appropriate
place to ask this question :)
OpenGL ES stack being closed source is not a problem.
If you have DRI, DRM, X11 driver and source for these, you need to
integrate these into kernel and package them into RPM packages
For the O
zation such as
prestarting, Qt boosting, battery life is obvious since we don't have
OMAP power management in kernel and general slowness is due to the SGX
drivers :)
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_DATE__ and __TIME__)
* Patch those usages away in spec file.
or
* Make build-compare able to notice a build change is 'just' because
of __DATE__ and __TIME__ and otherwise similar.
What do you think?
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Hi,
We'll be starting Nokia N900 hardware adaptation IRC meetings again
(also covering Core+Handset ARM issues).
These will happen each Thursday at 8.00 UTC, see
http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/Meetings for more information and
agenda + procedures about agenda
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the confusion is already going on, try
browsing through:
http://blogsearch.google.com/blogsearch?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=smeegol+meego&btnG=Search+Blogs
or meego smeegol on Google..
I think that pretty much shows there exists an actual confusion. When
there's people popping in #
we should try to centralize these
BSPs/HW adaptations at meego.com and test them, instead of having
shady HW adaptations laying about for download at vendor sites...
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ot $BIGCORP with money to spend.
> GO AWAY WE DO NOT WANT YOU!"
>
> From my point of view that's just sad.
>
>
I think this would be a good time to start discussing how really to get
hardware adaptations into MeeGo in a practical manner and make it into a
wiki guide..
Everyth
2010/12/15 Arjan van de Ven
> On 12/15/2010 11:28 AM, Carsten Munk wrote:
>
>> 2010/12/15 Thomas B. Ruecker > dm8...@openaos.org>>
>>
>>
>>On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 09:47:33AM -0800, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
>>> On 12/15/2010 9:26 AM, Thomas B
2010/12/10 Carsten Munk
> Hi,
>
> We'll be starting Nokia N900 hardware adaptation IRC meetings again
> (also covering Core+Handset ARM issues).
>
> These will happen each Thursday at 8.00 UTC, see
> http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/Meetings for more information and
&
us 127
>
> then stalling at
>
> Installing: libasyncns ##### [222/551]
>
> What qemu are you using?
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Hi,
Out of curiosity, what's the technical reasoning for having Xinerama
disabled in MeeGo X.org?
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2010/12/19 Arjan van de Ven
> On 12/18/2010 6:42 AM, Carsten Munk wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Out of curiosity, what's the technical reasoning for having Xinerama
>> disabled in MeeGo X.org?\
>>
>
> it's completely obsoleted by the xrandr stuff.
> Why do we no longer have N900 images which boot from ubifs? Is there
> something that needs to be fixed to re-enable it?
MeeGo is basically too fat for the internal flash (250m or so) and we have been
pursuing a non-destructive method so people can try out MeeGo without breaking
their current s
> On Thu, 2010-12-23 at 10:43 +0100, Carsten Munk wrote:
> > MeeGo is basically too fat for the internal flash (250m or so) and we
> > have been pursuing a non-destructive method so people can try out
> > MeeGo without breaking their current setup.
>
> Oh, for som
Consider meego-porting@ for MeeGo porting questions
/Carsten
2010/12/27 Mueller, Robert :
> Ok - understood, sorry.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Arjan van de Ven [mailto:ar...@linux.intel.com]
> Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 12:57
> To: Mueller, Robert
> Cc: meego-dev@meego.com; dan..
roject what's going on in Program Office regarding
the roadmaps for 1.2 for your areas? It'll help people understand why
these roadmaps may be missing and set up expectations to when we'll
see them :)
Thank you in advance,
BR
Carsten Munk
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27;t help to clear up the picture of what's going to be
delivered/planned.
In addition to the featurezilla stuff, some information about
deadlines for 'ACCEPTED' for 1.2 and when 1.3 planning starts, would
be useful - some insight in your processes, if any exist :)
Best regards
2011/1/5 Leaf John :
> Hi,
>
> I try to calibrate the power usage of each process in MeeGo system,
> So I used powertop & upower on MeeGo 1.1, N900, but they can't do
> this job for the TIMER_STATS config is disabled.
>
> I check the meego gitorious and kernel source code release, this option
> is
ull logs and minutes at
http://trac.tspre.org/meetbot/meego-meeting/2011/meego-meeting.2011-01-05-08.00.html
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>
> Hi,
>
> is there a reason for not using systemd?
> I think i've seen discussions about MeeGo using systemd somewhere..
> Fedora is going to use systemd in their next version, abandoning upstart.
> Opensuse is also going to use systemd in the next version.
>
> So is ther
vendors wonder about too in our
feature process/package maintaining/etc, so here they are:
Specifically:
* what are the requirements for a maintainer in terms of:
* availability
* time commitment
* response to requirement changes
So, anyone who is able to answer those?
Best regards,
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he relevant areas soon.
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is wise? I would imagine something like ubifs would be saner as it's
suited for that kind of purpose.
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s fast now.
rest are library dependancies for the binaries.
This has been tested on a copy of Trunk:Testing without any problems.
rpm-x86 has a minor problem with signature checking we're still
looking into ('warning: .init_b_cache/kernel-headers.rpm: Header V3
DSA/SHA1 Signature, key I
m investigating Linaro 2010.12 to see if this fixes the NEON
issues. Downside of this is that it is actually 4.5.2 based, which we
don't have current program office approval for changing.
* More work on armv7nhl side as this needs to be ready for 1.2 too.
Hi (ARM toolchain group mostly)
Do we have a patch for glibc-2.11-12-g24c0bf7 and/or glibc-2.12.1 that
enables ARM RunFast[1] mode by default anywhere? Would be good to push
it along with hardfp while we're at it and getting things tested
through.
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[1]
2011/1/12 Arjan van de Ven :
> On 1/12/2011 1:06 AM, Carsten Munk wrote:
>>
>> Hi (ARM toolchain group mostly)
>>
>> Do we have a patch for glibc-2.11-12-g24c0bf7 and/or glibc-2.12.1 that
>> enables ARM RunFast[1] mode by default anywhere? Would be good to push
&g
not any testing yet. (kallam, 08:32:55)
23. Camera: we haven't done any bug reports out BMC and I prefer we
wait that gst-plugins-camera is in our testing images and modules
autoloading gets solved. (theodor, 08:38:00)
Best regards,
Carsten Munk
MeeG
s used for policy framework :) Prolog, while you thought you'd
never meet it again outside university, is actually useful for these
kind of things.
http://conference2010.meego.com/session/policy-framework-flexible-way-orchestrate-multiple-functionalities-meego-devices
for
2011/1/11 Carsten Munk :
> Hi,
>
> So, as some of you have noticed, I've submitted a bunch of -x86
> packages to devel:toolchain, so I'd like to take a minute of your time
> to explain what this does as it'll be a larger submission towards
> Trunk:Testing. And I w
.@meego.com [mailto:meego-dev-boun...@meego.com]
>>On Behalf Of ext Carsten Munk
>>Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 7:02 PM
>>To: meego-dev
>>Subject: [MeeGo-dev] Nokia N900 hardware adaptation team meeting minutes
>>13/01/2011
>>
>>Next meeting next Thursday 20
he whole 'speedrpm' go to trunk:testing?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: meego-dev-boun...@meego.com [mailto:meego-dev-boun...@meego.com] On
> Behalf Of Carsten Munk
> Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 2:59 PM
> To: meego-dev
> Subject: Re: [MeeGo-dev] speedrpm for ARM co
Go-dev] ARM RunFast by default in glibc
>
> On Wednesday, 12 de January de 2011 16:01:31 Carsten Munk wrote:
>> 2011/1/12 Arjan van de Ven :
>> > On 1/12/2011 1:06 AM, Carsten Munk wrote:
>> >> Hi (ARM toolchain group mostly)
>> >>
>> >>
2011/1/14 Martin Mohring :
> On 01/14/2011 02:09 PM, Jan-Simon Möller wrote:
>>> installing rpm-libs-4.8.1-2.2
>>> installing rpm-libs-x86-arm-4.8.1-7.1
>>> installing libtool-2.2.6b-1.3
>>> installing rpm-4.8.1-2.2
>>> installing cross-armv7l-gcc-accel-armv7l-4.5.1-2.4
>>> rpmdb: Build signature d
So, to keep people in the loop:
* We have deployed speedrpm in devel:toolchain and it seems to work
fine. Hardfp patches doesn't seem to kill anything, devel:base was
sanity checked on armv7l side.
* We have just started speedrpm in devel:base to verify there.
* We're still exploring the KVM iss
exibility.
If there's no objections, I'll submit this towards the various places
the archs needs to be supported in.
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2011/1/18 Thiago Macieira :
> On Tuesday, 18 de January de 2011 13:03:38 Carsten Munk wrote:
>> Some comments about current hardfp RPM optflags has been that we have
>> -mno-thumb . And some vendors might want to optimize some things for
>> thumb in terms of memory size. S
Access"
http://download.meego.com/live/home:/lisayue:/branches:/devel:/multimedia/testing/
can be used for temporary testing (we normally shouldn't use /live
unless it is for quick testing/development, as it is a not-so-quick
connection)
Lisa, could you enable publishing for armv7el p
2011/1/18 Carsten Munk :
> Hi,
>
> Some comments about current hardfp RPM optflags has been that we have
> -mno-thumb . And some vendors might want to optimize some things for
> thumb in terms of memory size. So I'd like to preempt this issue
> before we run into it in depl
ality to our rpm (or the 4.9 work that is ongoing)?
I personally think this could make our platform development a lot easier.
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contains example of usage. The binaries
> compiled for ca8-hardfp, so you can launch it without recompilation if hw is
> the same.
>
> With best wishes,
> Leonid
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: carsten.m...@gmail.com [mailto:carsten.m...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of ext
>
>From 968427eb8c8acd219a51e2cd650fbf17e7d3aeba Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
---
rpmrc |4
1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)
diff --git a/rpmrc b/rpmrc
index 21f363c..858862d 100644
--- a/rpmrc
+++ b/rpmrc
@@ -48,6 +48,10 @@ optflags: armv5tejl %{__global_cflags} -march=armv5t
2011/1/19 Carsten Munk :
> Hi,
>
> One of the biggest problems about debugging on mobile devices running
> MeeGo is that our debuginfo packages currently contain the entire
> source of the software. While this is nice for stepping through source
> code, it is horrible for simple
our
OBS worker(s) or local development setup.
The advantage is way faster ARM builds for you and in addition to
that, your ARM builds will actually work :)
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2011/1/24 Mickey Kim :
>
>
> I'm testing our XVideo implementation on MeeGo platform.
>
> When I run gst-launch with xvimagesink, I couldn't see video output display.
> (gst-launch-0.10 filesrc location="file name" ! decodebin ! xvimagesink)
> We use two windows (top: UI, bottom: Video).
> I could
2011/1/24 Mickey Kim :
>
>
>> 2011/1/24 Mickey Kim :
>
>> >
>
>> >
>
>> > I'm testing our XVideo implementation on MeeGo platform.
>
>> >
>
>> > When I run gst-launch with xvimagesink, I couldn't see video output
>
>> display.
>
>> > (gst-launch-0.10 filesrc location="file name" ! decodebin !
>
>>
Hi,
Do we have a sane and performing NEON memcpy that would be suitable
for MeeGo glibc version anywhere? Would be useful for glibc armv7nhl
variant.
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2011/1/24 Robison, Clayne B :
> I've got a bricked n900 that got messed up as I was trying to put meego on
> the device. There is a lot of documentation on how to fix bricked n900s, but
> the assumption is that when you press the 'u' key on power on, you will get
> to a Nokia screen with a USB
a week same time, same place
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[2]
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2011/1/28 Arjan van de Ven :
> On 1/28/2011 4:04 AM, Carsten Munk wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> We just noticed we (N900 images) seem to be the only ones using btrfs
>> on Handset images[1] [2]. When was this change made and is it an
>> error? If not, why?
>&g
I get more info about the BME?
BME is closed source but redistributable on meego.com and only useful
on Nokia N900.
> Thanks a lot.
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evdev to latest upstream worked (xinput2 support included),
but no remedy.
Normal X applications work fine, but Qt apps don't work properly.
What is the story here and what is timeframe for it being fixed? I'm a
bit tired of seeing very low % QA reports in acceptance for 4 days in
a row
ering why you have meego-repos package in your %packages when
it doesn't exist?
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>
> Anyone have any clues?
>
> Jeremiah
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If you'd like to discuss Nokia strategies and rumours, consider some
of the many forums that exist for this purpose. But this isn't one.
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more sophisticated solution for BMC#5997 and
BMC#7219, concerning number of icons visible in desktop. (jarismura,
08:40:03)
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2011/2/7 Endler, Axel :
> On what host system do you make:
> libqtwebkit-devel-2.1.0~2011week03-1.5.armv7l.rpm?
> (Ubuntu ?, Which version?)
>
> What cross-compiler do you use?
> (Which version?)
>
> What build options are you using?
We're using the OBS.
Until speedrpm was in place, qtweb
2011/2/9 Rémi Denis-Courmont :
> On Saturday 29 January 2011 10:42:28 ext Carsten Munk, you wrote:
>> 2011/1/29 Lego Ming :
>> > Hi all,
>> > We want to study the Battery Management Mechanism on MeeGo Handset.
>>
>> The battery management mechanism on M
2011/2/9 Eero Tamminen :
> Hi,
>
> ext fathi.bou...@nokia.com wrote:
>>>
>>> What build options are you using?
>>
>> CXXFLAGS='-O2 -g -pipe -Wall -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fexceptions
>> -fstack-protector --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -Wformat -Wformat-security
>> -fmessage-length=0 -march=armv7-a -mtu
0:12)
Action items
1. johnx will look at bug 8043
2. stskeeps will look at bug 12515 (fennec)
3. sage will move 4049 ahead
4. aruravi will move 11261 ahead
BR
Carsten Munk
MeeGo Nokia N900 Hardware Adaptation Maintainer
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2011/2/11 :
> Hi
>
> No it won't go away, see
> https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11796
> which is in 'new' state.
>
> Juha
We have someone looking on the GPS task, check status reports from
latest MeeGo N900 hardware adaptation meetings
/Carsten
>
>
>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: m
y plug-in for my
> application (that works really well). Shame no-one will ever use it ...
> or will they?
>
MeeGo's still open for business and taking patches. :)
http://meego.com/about/contribution-guidelines still applies and
Pulseaudio is an active area of
n those findings glibc seemed to be a good choice for MeeGo
(and MeeGo ARM too) and I personally don't see any reason why to use
eglibc instead of glibc in MeeGo.
BR
Carsten Munk
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plication,
implement support for camera keys(zoom, capture button), fix
viewfinder resolution (joonasta, 08:32:03)
22.
http://meego.com/community/blogs/harrihakulinen/2011/happy-birthday-meego
(stephg, 08:58:01)
23.
http://meego.com/community/blogs/harrihakulinen/2011/happy-birthda
vents work on this has been stopped and meego can
> continue to use sysvinit&fastinit.
This one is for architects: is the systemd switch in 1.3 still planned?
BR
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2011/2/17 ssuk hyun kim :
> Hi All,
> I am trying to play a video which is h.264 via meego-handset-video player on
> N900. But it doesn't play. ogg plays well.
> N900 is installed MeeGo handset 1.1 image.
> Please let me know how to video can play mp4 and h.264.
> Regards,
> SH
MP4 and H264 aren't
2011/2/17 Leonardo Luiz Padovani da Mata :
> Hello fellows,
>
> I'd like to know how long does it take to a patch be applied into the
> package and the package be compiled. I'm really interested on this
> change and since the OBS is not public i'd like to get access to
> change as soon as possible.
pdate:Testing/e2fsprogs(r2)(cleanup)
> -> MeeGo:1.1:Core:Update:Testing/e2fsprogs
>
>
> Message:
> Add a patch to fix BMC#13465
>
> State: accepted 2011-02-16T17:54:04 nwang2
> Comment: Thank you
>
>
> History: new 2011-02-13T15:07:32 nfang
>
2011/2/17 Arjan van de Ven :
> On 2/17/2011 1:08 AM, Carsten Munk wrote:
>>
>> 2011/2/17 Tapio Rantala:
>>>
>>> pe, 2011-01-07 kello 16:11 +0200, ext Tapio Rantala kirjoitti:
>>>>
>>>> Hi all!
>>>>
>>>> We are prepari
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