Re: [MBZ] was diesel, now Motorcycles for Bob

2008-05-14 Thread Curt Raymond
Finally found one, they call it o ring which it isn't cam shaft seal which it also isn't... The cross section I think was probably rectangular at some point, I'm 99.9% certain it wasn't an o ring, the hole it fits is NOT round. Anyway the new one should be here next week while I'm on vacation.

Re: [MBZ] OT Beer

2008-05-14 Thread MG
That rear seat must have been a bit smaller but then the rear window was smaller too. Manfred Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 20:19:53 -0500 From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] New? Bug? Mine was a 1951 On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 7:42 PM, MG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With all that room? Try a 68 VW

[MBZ] What's in a name was Re: What's a GLK?

2008-05-14 Thread Donald Snook
Bill R. wrote: From experience with my grandkids though, as soon as someone picks up an unusual name you will suddenly hear dozens of kids with the same name. I think the jury might still be out on Atticus, though. Perhaps little Atticus Snook (or Gregory Atticus Snook) will be the first to

Re: [MBZ] Atticus

2008-05-14 Thread Donald Snook
Randy wrote: With the very greatest respect, could a child named Atticus Snook make it through school alive? I wondered that too. Let's hope he doesn't have a lisp. That would be a really tough name. I would guess this future kid will not end up being named Atticus (at least as a first

Re: [MBZ] Crazy Quantum

2008-05-14 Thread ernest breakfield
yeah, this guy's another victim of the BioD craze. tried to sell this locally on one of the BioD-oriented lists; didn't even get any action there, and was a bit of a dick when questioned about it. cheers! e John Robbins wrote:

Re: [MBZ] What's in a name was Re: What's a GLK?

2008-05-14 Thread LWB250
Yes, but the real question would be, did she make them run around dressed as a ham? Dan (closet To Kill a Mockingbird fan who owns the DVD) Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bill R. wrote: From experience with my grandkids though, as soon as someone picks up an unusual name you

Re: [MBZ] What's in a name was Re: What's a GLK?

2008-05-14 Thread Robert Rentfro
Nuts...Dan beat me to the TKAM reference. Got to be on your toes 'round here. Bob R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LWB250 Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 7:21 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] What's in a name was Re:

Re: [MBZ] atticus

2008-05-14 Thread Donald Snook
There is a funny article in The Onion today by Atticus Finch. Pure Satire, but funny. http://www.theonion.com/content/opinion/i_would_say_to_kill_a Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor:

Re: [MBZ] What's in a name was Re: What's a GLK?

2008-05-14 Thread Bill R
Actually after a day looking at it on the list it is growing on me. If I have another boy I'll consider it BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 9:34 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject:

Re: [MBZ] What's in a name

2008-05-14 Thread Jim Cathey
I knew a girl in Law School who named her children Scout and Jem. I used to date a woman who named her _cats_ Scout and Jem. Dan (closet To Kill a Mockingbird fan who owns the DVD) Piffle. I'm a fan who owns the Laserdisc, and I don't care who knows it! :-) I read the book too, it's a

[MBZ] Fwd: help please: vacuum leak on 240D, 1983

2008-05-14 Thread Gary Hurst
-- Forwarded message -- From: Reid B. Paxton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, May 13, 2008 at 7:38 PM Subject: help please: vacuum leak on 240D, 1983 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I guess I have a really bad leak now as the engine won't shut off. Previously I had to wait a minute for the

Re: [MBZ] Crazy Quantum

2008-05-14 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 7:41 AM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Somebody near me listed a '96 Passat TDI on Craigslist for $3900, gone in a flash, probably induced a bidding war and sold it for $5500. A 25 year old Quantum should probably go for 2-3x intrinsic (scrap metal) value.

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: help please: vacuum leak on 240D, 1983

2008-05-14 Thread LWB250
I think this is a recipe for disaster - he's talking about the compressor? Yikes. Dan Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: Reid B. Paxton Date: Tue, May 13, 2008 at 7:38 PM Subject: help please: vacuum leak on 240D, 1983 To:

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: help please: vacuum leak on 240D, 1983

2008-05-14 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 8:44 AM, LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think this is a recipe for disaster - he's talking about the compressor? I didn't interpret it that way. He's talking about the vacuum pump---he's just got its function backwards. Pumping the system up and listening for leaks

Re: [MBZ] Atticus

2008-05-14 Thread R A Bennell
Actually, was not me who wrote that, but I do sort of share the sentiment. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 7:39 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Atticus Randy wrote: With the

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: help please: vacuum leak on 240D, 1983

2008-05-14 Thread Rich Thomas
Did you tell him what he needs to do or are you waiting for someone else to tell him? --R Gary Hurst wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: Reid B. Paxton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, May 13, 2008 at 7:38 PM Subject: help please: vacuum leak on 240D, 1983 To: [EMAIL

[MBZ] Keys!

2008-05-14 Thread R A Bennell
This morning I got into my car in the garage and went to put the key in the ignition switch. No key! Just the plastic piece left. Got to love those silly soft plastic key tops. Started to make a wooden blank replacement a while back but never finished. I guess now I will be making 2 - assuming I

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: help please: vacuum leak on 240D, 1983

2008-05-14 Thread R A Bennell
I'm sort of there too. Sometimes I have to open the hood and hold the lever down to stop my car. Therefore, I too would like to have the wisdom of those who have done this before. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent:

Re: [MBZ] Thought I was in a different car...

2008-05-14 Thread Bill R
Two of the rods that work to move all the throttle stuff [like my technical terms?] had been swapped at some point in the past. Manfred fiddled with trying to get the snag out of the linkage movement while having the stop lever be in the correct position, and finally discovered that to get that

Re: [MBZ] What's in a name was Re: What's a GLK?

2008-05-14 Thread Bill R
Yeah, a little weird, but then she was planning to be alawyer..;=) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 9:34 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] What's in a name was Re: What's a GLK? Bill R.

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: help please: vacuum leak on 240D, 1983

2008-05-14 Thread Rich Thomas
You either have to make sure that all your vac lines are hooked up and not leaking, or that your vac-operated items are working (door locks the prime suspect), and that your vac pump is pumping vac. Easiest to check the vac pump with a MityVac, see if it is pulling enough, then you have to

Re: [MBZ] Keys!

2008-05-14 Thread Bill R
...and not broken off in the ignition. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R A Bennell Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 12:43 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Keys! This morning I got into my car in the garage and went to put

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: help please: vacuum leak on 240D, 1983

2008-05-14 Thread Allan Streib
Not meaning to hijack someone else's question -- but on this topic I have been dealing with intermittent total vacuum loss. I replaced a lot of the rubber hoses under the hood, and that largely resolved the problem. Still, every once in a while (not more than once every few weeks), I will lose

Re: [MBZ] Keys!

2008-05-14 Thread R A Bennell
No, that couldn't be as the whole metal part was gone - just had plastic left over. Looked in the house at lunch to no avail. However, found it in the trunk lock so now back to square one. Time to make some wooden key heads to replace the plastic. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

[MBZ] More on Vacuum

2008-05-14 Thread R A Bennell
Has anyone installed a vacuum gauage in a diesel MB? I started to wonder if that might be a means of keeping an eye on what the system was doing. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used

Re: [MBZ] Keys!

2008-05-14 Thread Wilton Strickland
Randy, my wooden (walnut) key top works great, feels good, looks good, but I really don't use it much - just lying in the drawer as a spare now. I noticed the walnut top gets dinged fast in my pocket with other keys and stuff, but I enjoyed making it and knowing that I can. Wilton -

[MBZ] O/T News Server

2008-05-14 Thread pm7088
I'm using Giganews, I think I'm getting hammered price wise, about $250/year. Any Suggestions? Pete ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or

Re: [MBZ] Keys!

2008-05-14 Thread Bill R
Glad you found it and didn't have to dig it out of a lock. You could get really industrious and make a bunch to give to all of us for Christmas... BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R A Bennell Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 3:02 PM To:

Re: [MBZ] Keys!

2008-05-14 Thread Bill R
Still perfect for someone like me. I leave a single key in the ignition almost all the time. Not always a good idea, I know, as one of these days I might go out to a blank parking spot. I even forget to lock it many nights and have never had it even gone through. Yet. BillR Jacksonville FL

Re: [MBZ] O/T News Server

2008-05-14 Thread John Robbins
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm using Giganews, I think I'm getting hammered price wise, about $250/year. What newsgroups are you hosting? I don't have any suggestions, but that doesn't seem like a service that should cost all that much. John ___

Re: [MBZ] Keys!

2008-05-14 Thread R A Bennell
Hi Wilton I plan to do essentially what you did. I'm not really concerned about the wood getting dinged. I just don't want to mess with the plastic stuff anymore. I looked at whether I could rivet some brass onto the key but there is not a whole lot of the metal key as you well know so the

Re: [MBZ] Keys!

2008-05-14 Thread R A Bennell
I went off to the lake for the weekend a while back and left the keys in the door lock with the car parked on the front street. No harm. Still there when I got back. (Not the Mercedes - it was an old Mercury that we had then) I am convinced that most people couldn't start my car even with the

Re: [MBZ] Keys!

2008-05-14 Thread Mitch Haley
Wilton Strickland wrote: noticed the walnut top gets dinged fast in my pocket with other keys Nothing like a good piece of Hickory. Or maybe Ironwood or Ash. I was going to make some out of Cherry or Walnut, but I'm having second thoughts now that you brought up dent resistance.

Re: [MBZ] used motor oil for fuel

2008-05-14 Thread Luther
Hense the reason for my question. Ethanol (for fuel) is denatured immediately by law... On Sun, 11 May 2008 20:08:08 -0500, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My understanding is that ethanol is what was previously referred to as moonshine. On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 5:45 AM, Luther

Re: [MBZ] What's in a name was Re: What's a GLK?

2008-05-14 Thread Donald Snook
Bill R. wrote: Yeah, a little weird, but then she was planning to be a lawyer It didn't work out for her. She didn't pass the bar and then gave up trying. It is surprising how many people go through the pain of law school only to not take the bar or not practice at all. Donald H. Snook

Re: [MBZ] What's in a name was Re: What's a GLK?

2008-05-14 Thread Mitch Haley
Donald Snook wrote: It didn't work out for her. She didn't pass the bar and then gave up trying. It is surprising how many people go through the pain of law school only to not take the bar or not practice at all. I know a guy who got fired for not passing the CPA exam. They hired him with a

Re: [MBZ] hail damage

2008-05-14 Thread RELNGSON
It took two weeks to get an appointment to get an estimate on car repairs. Musta used up a 5-gallon bucket of Bondo. Dent Wizard does those jobs now. RLE   ** Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food.

Re: [MBZ] Keys!

2008-05-14 Thread Wilton Strickland
Yea, I thought about Hickory, Ash and Ironwood, too, but I had Walnut readily available. Oh, how 'bout boxwood and dogwood? I have a bit of those too. Oh, and I have some cherry here -- somewhere. How 'bout rosewood - an old rose bush down near the ground or just underground? Wilton -

[MBZ] NOT what I wanted to hear

2008-05-14 Thread Bill R
Just got a call from the MN specialist who wants me to come over so he can show me where the frame is cracked. That I was not expecting nor am I pleased to hear that one. Any thoughts as to what if anything can be done? He wanted me to see it before we talked about it. BillR Jacksonville FL

Re: [MBZ] What's in a name was Re: What's a GLK?

2008-05-14 Thread Bill R
It does seem a bit odd to do all of that and then stop. When I was in grad school that happened once in awhile, but very rare. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 4:02 PM To:

Re: [MBZ] diesel

2008-05-14 Thread Luther
Hahaha, regretting that trade like the SDL you sold to me? :) Luther On Mon, 12 May 2008 18:53:06 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: damn you OK Don wrote: IIRC, I got about 45 MPG on both the R69S and the R100, but that was awhile ago. I'm very happy with 30- 33 in the 602

Re: [MBZ] hail damage

2008-05-14 Thread Bill R
Not sure, I took the insurance money and sold the car to someone who thought it cute that way. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 4:14 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] hail

Re: [MBZ] [Banned] NOT what I wanted to hear

2008-05-14 Thread Bill R
Make that the MB specialist ... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill R Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 4:31 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List'; 'Banned List' Subject: [Banned] NOT what I wanted to hear Just got a call from the MN specialist

Re: [MBZ] O/T News Server

2008-05-14 Thread pm7088
I'm not hosting, yet. I'm looking into hosting a moderated Masonic Group. Pete -- Original message -- From: John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm using Giganews, I think I'm getting hammered price wise, about $250/year. What

Re: [MBZ] More on Vacuum

2008-05-14 Thread Rich Thomas
Easy enough to tap off one of the lines and go to a gauge mounted somewhere. I had one I used while diagnosing what turned out to be the bad brake booster, you could see the vac drop when pressing the brake pedal (break pettle). --R R A Bennell wrote: Has anyone installed a vacuum gauage in

Re: [MBZ] NOT what I wanted to hear

2008-05-14 Thread E M
Sometimes if you know you're keeping it for life, it's easier to spend money on them. All part of sorting an old car out. Ed 300E 2008/5/14 Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Just got a call from the MN specialist who wants me to come over so he can show me where the frame is cracked. That I was not

[MBZ] lawsuit over a Mercedes

2008-05-14 Thread Donald Snook
I was reading the Journal of the Kansas Bar Association today and it has reports of recent decisions by the Kansas Court of Appeals. There was a case about a guy who bought a 1995 Mercedes (it just says it was a 320) for $17,000 in January 2005. It had over 135,000 miles. The new owners

Re: [MBZ] Keys!

2008-05-14 Thread E M
Those aren't dings Wilton, that's patina. ;-) Ed 300E 2008/5/14 Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Randy, my wooden (walnut) key top works great, feels good, looks good, but I really don't use it much - just lying in the drawer as a spare now. I noticed the walnut top gets dinged fast in

Re: [MBZ] [Banned] NOT what I wanted to hear

2008-05-14 Thread R A Bennell
Frames on most things can be repaired. I know a fellow who bought a new Chevy truck and cut 2 feet out of the frame because he wanted a shortbox 3/4 ton diesel and GM does not make such a thing. The low rider people cut parts out of the frame and box them to make them stronger. Just make sure

Re: [MBZ] NOT what I wanted to hear

2008-05-14 Thread Allan Streib
Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Just got a call from the MN specialist who wants me to come over so he can show me where the frame is cracked. That I was not expecting nor am I pleased to hear that one. Any thoughts as to what if anything can be done? He wanted me to see it before we talked

Re: [MBZ] Keys!

2008-05-14 Thread Curt Raymond
What about braze? Make a new head out of metal and braze them together? I haven't had that problem with my 190D but when I get my 240D back I'll need to come up with some way to fix the head. -Curt Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 14:48:06 -0500 From: R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ]

Re: [MBZ] lawsuit over a Mercedes

2008-05-14 Thread Luther
So you are ok with a buyer being a dumbass and not checking EVERYTHING out on a used car regardless of the price paid? No more caveat emptor? If this is the case, Kaleb, I need you to pay for my transmission in the SDL. Luther On Wed, 14 May 2008 16:02:14 -0500, Donald Snook [EMAIL

Re: [MBZ] NOT what I wanted to hear

2008-05-14 Thread R A Bennell
Still a frame of sorts even if not the old style full frame. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 3:12 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] NOT what I wanted to hear Bill R

Re: [MBZ] lawsuit over a Mercedes

2008-05-14 Thread John Robbins
Donald Snook wrote: I was reading the Journal of the Kansas Bar Association today and it has reports of recent decisions by the Kansas Court of Appeals. There was a case about a guy who bought a 1995 Mercedes (it just says it was a 320) for $17,000 in January 2005. It had over 135,000 miles.

Re: [MBZ] lawsuit over a Mercedes

2008-05-14 Thread Peter T . Arnold
I'm not sure how a non technical buyer would check an A/C in January. Not sure how I would either ;-) -- Regards, Peter T. Arnold 2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, 20Kmi, No problems! 1987 300SDL 286 KMI Now lives with Dave Walton, Cleveland Ohio 1995 F-250 PowerChoke 199Kmi 1954 Metropolitan

Re: [MBZ] Keys!

2008-05-14 Thread Donald Snook
I am confused about all this talk about the keys. Why not just order a new steel key from Rusty or the Dealer. The last one I ordered from the dealer worked great. It is the aftermarket cheap keys that failed. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com

[MBZ] WOW! I really like this car.

2008-05-14 Thread Donald Snook
http://tinyurl.com/5ajv43 Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] Keys!

2008-05-14 Thread R A Bennell
The keys came from the dealer. Unfortunately, they are not like the original keys in that the plastic top part is soft and it tears after a bit of use so tha the metal part is no longer attached to the plastic part. I assume this may be intended as a safety issue a sthe metal part that does not

Re: [MBZ] lawsuit over a Mercedes

2008-05-14 Thread Luther
Pay $100 for a COMPLETE inspection by a qualified and TRUSTED mechanic. Case closed. Luther On Wed, 14 May 2008 16:30:43 -0500, Peter T. Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure how a non technical buyer would check an A/C in January. Not sure how I would either ;-) -- Regards,

[MBZ] lawsuit

2008-05-14 Thread R A Bennell
I should think that a working air conditioner would be necessary in Kansas and that one would expect a Mercedes to have a working air conditioner unless told that it did not work. There are means of testing to see if it worked at the time of sale. Unfortunate for the buyers who assumed all was

Re: [MBZ] lawsuit over a Mercedes

2008-05-14 Thread R A Bennell
Then sue your poor trusted mechanic who only got $100 if he turns out to be wrong? Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Luther Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 3:40 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] lawsuit over a Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] NOT what I wanted to hear

2008-05-14 Thread Curt Raymond
How does the frame crack on a unibody car? Would it be easier to fix on a unibody car? We had a frame crack repaired on the GMC farm truck not all that long ago. They boxed that section of the frame, maybe 1 foot around the crack. -Curt Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 16:31:00 -0400 From: Bill R [EMAIL

Re: [MBZ] WOW! I really like this car.

2008-05-14 Thread LWB250
And who wouldn't like to have the best of the SL models there is? Nice job on this car, if it's a restoration. Dan --- Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://tinyurl.com/5ajv43 Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see

Re: [MBZ] NOT what I wanted to hear

2008-05-14 Thread Bill R
I have no idea. My talents never ran toward the mechanical end of things. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 5:12 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] NOT what I wanted to hear

Re: [MBZ] WOW! I really like this car.

2008-05-14 Thread Bill R
Don - that is a pretty car. Why not go for that and impress the clients? It would sure impress me/. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 5:33 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] WOW! I

Re: [MBZ] NOT what I wanted to hear

2008-05-14 Thread R A Bennell
Are we talking about the subframe that the engine is mounted in and the front suspension attaches to? Did I hear somewhere that there are sometimes cracks that occur where the steering box mounts to the frame, or am I thinking of another vehicle? I know it happens to others - not sure if it

Re: [MBZ] WOW! I really like this car.

2008-05-14 Thread R A Bennell
Very Nice. I wonder how good it really is? And how much it may sell for? Wonder what the reserve price is? Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 3:33 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ]

Re: [MBZ] NOT what I wanted to hear

2008-05-14 Thread Bill R
Guess I'll learn a lot more tomorrow. Thanks for what I take to be encouragement about the frame crack. We do have some good welders around these parts. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008

Re: [MBZ] WOW! I really like this car.

2008-05-14 Thread Rich Thomas
Friend of mine has a 66 230SL 4spd that is almost like new (he babies it a LOT), he drives it daily in the summer. White with black interior. Not particularly fast, but great style. --R R A Bennell wrote: Very Nice. I wonder how good it really is? And how much it may sell for? Wonder what

Re: [MBZ] lawsuit over a Mercedes

2008-05-14 Thread Donald Snook
Luther wrote: So you are ok with a buyer being a dumbass and not checking EVERYTHING out on a used car regardless of the price paid? No more caveat emptor? If this is the case, Kaleb, I need you to pay for my transmission in the SDL. No. Actually, I agreed with the dissenting Judge who

Re: [MBZ] lawsuit over a Mercedes

2008-05-14 Thread Donald Snook
John R. wrote: So how much would all of those attorney fees cost? Surely more than the $4k in question! Definitely! That is one reason these cases get litigated and appealed is because of the award of fees. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For

Re: [MBZ] WOW! I really like this car.

2008-05-14 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
Yes, this is the Mercedes model for which I lust in my heart. A pagoda. I wouldn't care if it were 230sl, 250sl, or 280sl. You should go for it-enough of this Buick business. Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K miles. 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles. (SOLD). 1990 300D 2.5t 160K

Re: [MBZ] Keys!

2008-05-14 Thread Wilton Strickland
Yeah, that's what I was about to say, too, Ed - patina. Wilton - Original Message - From: E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 5:01 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Keys! Those aren't dings Wilton, that's patina. ;-) Ed 300E

Re: [MBZ] WOW! I really like this car.

2008-05-14 Thread Allan Streib
Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://tinyurl.com/5ajv43 That is a beauty! -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change

[MBZ] OT - Black bear

2008-05-14 Thread Wilton Strickland
Driving to Greenville, NC, this morning, for an IVIG treatment, I literally saw with my own eyes the answer to the age-old question, Does a bear go in the woods? I now know without any doubt whatsoever that, yes, a bear does, indeed, go in the woods. On a 2-lane country road, suddenly, there

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: help please: vacuum leak on 240D, 1983

2008-05-14 Thread John Freer
By any chance did you just have an oil filter change? There is a vacuum line (yellow?)that is pretty easy to disconnect in that area. John On 5/14/08, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You either have to make sure that all your vac lines are hooked up and not leaking, or that your

[MBZ] OT - another car on wagon wheels

2008-05-14 Thread Wilton Strickland
Also saw this morning a $200 90's Cadillac on $2000 chrome wheels about 30 inches in diameter. What a ridiculous sight! Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL

Re: [MBZ] Keys!

2008-05-14 Thread OK Don
I've thought about casting an aluminum head around the brass key - with Al melting around 660C and Brass around 900C, I'd have to watch the wax burn-out temp closely. The MB star seems a likely shape --- -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and

Re: [MBZ] WOW! I really like this car.

2008-05-14 Thread OK Don
Second best - it's an auto. On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 4:47 PM, LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And who wouldn't like to have the best of the SL models there is? -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: help please: vacuum leak on 240D, 1983

2008-05-14 Thread Peter Frederick
Check the plastic part in the main line where the brake booster check valve is and all the other lines connect. These crack with age, and leak intermittantly. Buy a new line, they are something like $45 (at least the one for my 300D was). Fast and easy, and eliminates lots of problems.

Re: [MBZ] Keys!

2008-05-14 Thread Peter Frederick
You only have a brass key if you have a non-MB replacement. I strongly recommend you stick with the MB steel ones -- brass keys tend to shed crud into the tumbler, and make it stick prematurely. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see

Re: [MBZ] Keys!

2008-05-14 Thread OK Don
Good point! I have MB keys, so they ought to be steel - forgot that. On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 8:29 PM, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You only have a brass key if you have a non-MB replacement. I strongly recommend you stick with the MB steel ones -- brass keys tend to shed crud

Re: [MBZ] Boo's E320

2008-05-14 Thread RELNGSON
lawsuit over a Mercedes After reading through that document, my eyes are spininng like pinwheels. In opposite directions,yet. Also, I wouldn't go to any Doctor who is known as Boo. RLE ** Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food.

Re: [MBZ] WOW! I really like this car.

2008-05-14 Thread Jim Cathey
And who wouldn't like to have the best of the SL models there is? That's a pretty subjective opinion. I've seen a few of the pre-107's, and decided that the 107 was more to my taste than any of the other SL's. But I expect that others would have differing opinions. Nice job on this car, if

Re: [MBZ] Keys!

2008-05-14 Thread Jim Cathey
I looked at whether I could rivet some brass onto the key but there is not a whole lot of the metal key I brazed a steel washer onto the end of a brass aftermarket key for the 450SL. It was the 'spare' key, and with the washer was still very flat. One has to be careful, brazing brass onto

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: help please: vacuum leak on 240D, 1983

2008-05-14 Thread Jim Cathey
every few weeks), I will lose vacuum. Usually first noticed while driving as a loss of brake boost...Can the vacuum shut-off in the key switch leak intermittently? Yes, but there's no way that even a full-open leak in that small piping can cause the brakes to fail, there is supposed to be

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: help please: vacuum leak on 240D, 1983

2008-05-14 Thread Jim Cathey
I guess I have a really bad leak now as the engine won't shut off. Previously I had to wait a minute for the compressor to do its thing. Anything out there for me to self diagnois, fix this problem? Visual inspection of vacuum distribution under the hood. Failing that, get some golf tees (or

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: help please: vacuum leak on 240D, 1983

2008-05-14 Thread Allan Streib
Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Check the plastic part in the main line where the brake booster check valve is and all the other lines connect. These crack with age, and leak intermittantly. Buy a new line, they are something like $45 (at least the one for my 300D was). Fast and

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: help please: vacuum leak on 240D, 1983

2008-05-14 Thread Mitch Haley
Isn't it a dual system like my 300SD, with half the pump going directly to the booster, and the other half feeds the rest of the system, or if necessary, the booster? Like Jim said, that narrows it down to the booster and the few components upstream of it, like the pump, check valves, and

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: help please: vacuum leak on 240D, 1983

2008-05-14 Thread Peter Frederick
Only if it has failed! You should also verify that the brake booster is good -- they can fail in such a way that they only leak badly when the brake is applied -- this will cause the shutoff to not work when you are stepping on the brake, but fine if you are not. Peter On May 14, 2008, at

Re: [MBZ] NOT what I wanted to hear

2008-05-14 Thread MG
Oh man what a bummer, that is not anything I would want to hear either. I guess that might be that groaning I was hearing when stopping, starting or turning a corner. I hope it will be possible to repair the cracks without to great a cost. Manfred Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 16:31:00 -0400 From:

Re: [MBZ] Help! I want my 300D back! 380SL

2008-05-14 Thread Loren Faeth
Yes, I got it, but won't have time until maybe Friday afternoon to check it out any further. Thanks Much! (bowing in the direction of Catheyville)) At 09:58 PM 5/13/2008, you wrote: with a wire it works? I guess if you jump it from the power in to the power out to fuel pump and it works,

Re: [MBZ] WOW! I really like this car.

2008-05-14 Thread Loren Faeth
Down boy! Careful, this is a 99k odometer. Get a real history or look at it up close an personal. A real 99k 280SL taken care of will have a nice patina and not need restored Might be ok, but might not. Look at back issues of the Star for similar pagoda SLs. That is a reasonable price

Re: [MBZ] WOW! I really like this car.

2008-05-14 Thread Loren Faeth
Donald, Forgot to add, the Pagodas are beautiful cars and fun to drive. If you buy it, I'll give ya $500 for it next year when you are tired of it! If you want to see a true low mile Pagoda, I have a friend in the Davenport, IA area who I could probably persuade to show you his. NO, you

Re: [MBZ] NOT what I wanted to hear

2008-05-14 Thread Loren Faeth
Same on a unibody, only you can't box the top, just bottom and 2 sides. recoat with rustproofing. At 04:44 PM 5/14/2008, you wrote: How does the frame crack on a unibody car? Would it be easier to fix on a unibody car? We had a frame crack repaired on the GMC farm truck not all that long ago.

Re: [MBZ] NOT what I wanted to hear

2008-05-14 Thread Loren Faeth
A groaning sound under those conditions would be consistent with a substantial frame crack. If you want a really good weld, find the local guy who is building a tubing frame homebuilt airplane, or a good A+P mechanic with emphasis on the A! When you weld on airframes, you don't want