[MBZ] A strange question about leaks

2011-10-22 Thread Bill Ringgold
Does anyone know how much water comes in through a closed sunroof on a 140 when it is sitting in the rain? I need to document the amount of water under my back seat vs. the rainfall in the weeks prior to the company moving it inside. What I hope to document is that the amount of water [about a

Re: [MBZ] A strange question about leaks

2011-10-22 Thread Michael Canfield
Interesting. I would assume none but I am no expert. Mike On Oct 22, 2011 6:46 AM, Bill Ringgold billr32...@comcast.net wrote: Does anyone know how much water comes in through a closed sunroof on a 140 when it is sitting in the rain? I need to document the amount of water under my back

Re: [MBZ] A strange question about leaks

2011-10-22 Thread TE
My C140 never had any water leak into the area in question (yes, the PSE pump on the C140 is located in the same area under the rear passenger side seat). It's been through quite a few downpours too. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] A strange question about leaks

2011-10-22 Thread Dave Walton
We have 2 140's. In our experience the answer is a steady zero. -Dave Walton On Oct 22, 2011, at 6:45 AM, Bill Ringgold billr32...@comcast.net wrote: Does anyone know how much water comes in through a closed sunroof on a 140 when it is sitting in the rain? I need to document the amount of

Re: [MBZ] A strange question about leaks

2011-10-22 Thread Hans Neureiter
Should be zip unless the gutter drains are plugged. On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 5:45 AM, Bill Ringgold billr32...@comcast.netwrote: Does anyone know how much water comes in through a closed sunroof on a 140 when it is sitting in the rain? -- Hans Neureiter, Katy, TX '82 300SD

[MBZ] Upcoming auction

2011-10-22 Thread Rich Thomas
I see Solyndra is going to have a fire sale auction soon -- might be some good stuff some of y'all would want from them if you are in the neighborhood. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] A strange question about leaks

2011-10-22 Thread Mitch Haley
I think the question is whether the shop left the car outdoors with something open, or whether the water was there all along but the shop had the misfortune of being in possession when expensive electrical components died from it. Somebody at the shop knows the true answer, but they'll say

Re: [MBZ] A strange question about leaks

2011-10-22 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
None. Never seen or heard of a 140 with a sunroof leak yet unless it was left open Sent from my iPhone On Oct 22, 2011, at 5:45 AM, Bill Ringgold billr32...@comcast.net wrote: Does anyone know how much water comes in through a closed sunroof on a 140 when it is sitting in the rain? I need

Re: [MBZ] A strange question about leaks

2011-10-22 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
It's possible that the shop is at fault but I don't think that proving it will be easy or possible. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 22, 2011, at 10:21 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: I think the question is whether the shop left the car outdoors with something open, or whether the water

Re: [MBZ] Upcoming auction

2011-10-22 Thread Rich Thomas
Forgot the link http://www.hgpauction.com/ --R On 10/22/11 10:19 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: I see Solyndra is going to have a fire sale auction soon -- might be some good stuff some of y'all would want from them if you are in the neighborhood. --R ___

Re: [MBZ] A strange question about leaks

2011-10-22 Thread Dave Walton
I was friends with the local Circuit County Court Judge for a number of years. They have an uncanny ability to cut through the bullshit and get to the truth of a mater. If you push it to the point where it gets in front of a judge, the other side will be waay motivated to settle even if it's

Re: [MBZ] A strange question about leaks

2011-10-22 Thread Bill Ringgold
I should have been a bit more specific in my question [you know how imprecise we liberal arts majors can be]. The drains around that sunroof should easily handle all of the water that comes in from the sunroof [I believe all of them leak]. With the torque on the body while driving I don't think

Re: [MBZ] A strange question about leaks

2011-10-22 Thread Rich Thomas
Did you check around the back glass seal? Not saying that was it, but that is occasionally a weak point for water leakage into the trunk/back seat area on these cars (in general). My suspicion is that someone drove the car around, left a window down, it rained a lot, and it pooled back

Re: [MBZ] A strange question about leaks

2011-10-22 Thread Luther's Benz
Are the electronics up front (center console) ok or did the dealership replace parts there too? nbsp;From the shops perspective, I would question the sunroof being the source IF the only water found was under the rear seat. nbsp;It doesn't seem possible that water would not be under the front

Re: [MBZ] A strange question about leaks

2011-10-22 Thread Luther's Benz
It would be a simple calculation atnbsp;http://ga.water.usgs.gov/edu/sc2.html Try their calculator with the dimensions of your sunroof opening. Luther On Oct 22, 2011 10:40 AM, Bill Ringgold lt;billr32...@comcast.netgt; wrote: I should have been a bit more specific in my question [you know

[MBZ] Missing iBook?

2011-10-22 Thread LWB250
Somebody (Rich?) sent me a white 13 iBook a couple of years ago to check out.   I wasn't able to at the time since I didn't have a power supply for it. I just found it in my stuff while unpacking. If you're the owner and want it returned, drop me a PM and I'll get it on the way back to you...

Re: [MBZ] Missing iBook?

2011-10-22 Thread Michael Canfield
And if the owner doesn't need it any more I would be interested in buying it if the price is right. Mike On Oct 22, 2011 12:31 PM, LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: Somebody (Rich?) sent me a white 13 iBook a couple of years ago to check out. I wasn't able to at the time since I didn't have a

Re: [MBZ] A strange question about leaks

2011-10-22 Thread WILTON
All of this about a leaking, closed sunroof or an open sunroof through which water can obviously gush strongly supports my contention of how stupid it is to ruin a perfectly good steel top by cutting a hole in it. 'Wish I could sell my two un-used sunroofs to a sunroof lover for what he/she

Re: [MBZ] Missing iBook?

2011-10-22 Thread Rich Thomas
No not me but if no one claims it... My macbook got stolen by my daughter's landlord in Granada last summer when we were visiting. --R On 10/22/11 12:31 PM, LWB250 wrote: Somebody (Rich?) sent me a white 13 iBook a couple of years ago to check out. I wasn't able to at the time since I

Re: [MBZ] Upcoming auction

2011-10-22 Thread G Mann
I wouldn't mind bidding on the bank records that show where the $500,000,000 went just to sweep up the crumbs that might be lying about. Or maybe the Exec officers assets, they must have some nice toys from blowing all that goberm'nt money, huh? G... Think those will be in the auction? On

[MBZ] W124 front end rebuild

2011-10-22 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
Hi Guys, We did the front end in a friend's W124 today and I did a write up on my website you might enjoy: http://www.jaimekop.com/2011/10/w124-front-end-rebuild/ Jaime ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list

Re: [MBZ] Missing iBook?

2011-10-22 Thread astrasfogel
Why Granada? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 13:02:20 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List

Re: [MBZ] Missing iBook?

2011-10-22 Thread Mitch Haley
astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Why Granada? Stanford Medical School didn't want her? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options

Re: [MBZ] Missing iBook?

2011-10-22 Thread Rich Thomas
She did a semester at the Universidad there, we went to visit when she was finished then did a road trip in Spain and Portugal. Met her at her apt, left my computer on the table, hers was in her room, when we went out for some almuerzo, got back and they were both gone though another

Re: [MBZ] Missing iBook?

2011-10-22 Thread Rich Thomas
That's Grenada, it is south of here not east. --R On 10/22/11 5:39 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Why Granada? Stanford Medical School didn't want her? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To

Re: [MBZ] W124 front end rebuild

2011-10-22 Thread Rich Thomas
How long did it take? I think I need to do mama's 126 ASAP as it is feeling a bit wobbly. Anybody have any details on that job? --R On 10/22/11 5:26 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: Hi Guys, We did the front end in a friend's W124 today and I did a write up on my website you might enjoy:

Re: [MBZ] W124 front end rebuild

2011-10-22 Thread Peter Frederick
Tie rods are the same, drag link and bushings are the same, but ball joints are MUCH more work and you have to deal with the possbility of worn out thrust links on the W126 rather than a simple control arm bushing replacement (or control arm replacement, since it's cheap). Peter On Oct

Re: [MBZ] W126 front end rebuild

2011-10-22 Thread Rich Thomas
I need to look at the suspension bits and the relevant manual sections, and order the parts I guess. I did the 123 front suspension, it was pretty straightforward, though I did take the ball joints to a mech to have them removed and pressed in with the MB tool. --R On 10/22/11 5:58 PM,

[MBZ] W123 front end rebuild

2011-10-22 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
With all this talk on front end rebuilds in the air this is a good time to ask. I'm planning a front end rebuild on my 82 240D next weekend with the assistance of a friend and possibly Andrew if he can get away from squashing around:) I've never done this. I bought all the parts from Rusty. I

Re: [MBZ] W123 front end rebuild

2011-10-22 Thread Rich Thomas
Did you check out my web page? Everything you need to know, right there! http://www.constructivity.net/rebuilding_a_79_300td.htm Nothing to dread, I would take the ball joints to an indy shop and let them deal with it. You could rent the spring compressor from Rusty for cheapcheep. The

Re: [MBZ] W116, driver's power window

2011-10-22 Thread Allan Streib
Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu writes: Actually my book (W116 Chassis manual, section 72) does not talk about anything called a regulator. The instructions for removing the electric window opener and also the drive motor alone both call for drilling the holes to access the motor mounting

Re: [MBZ] W116, driver's power window

2011-10-22 Thread Allan Streib
I also found the reason my door locks are not working... the yellow/red vacuum line has separated at the door hinge in the driver's door. I'm going to try to get some rubber hose over each end to reconnect. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___

Re: [MBZ] W123 front end rebuild

2011-10-22 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Thanks Rich. That is some good stuff! Sent from my iPhone On Oct 22, 2011, at 7:00 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Did you check out my web page? Everything you need to know, right there! http://www.constructivity.net/rebuilding_a_79_300td.htm Nothing to dread, I

Re: [MBZ] Missing iBook?

2011-10-22 Thread Hendrik Fay
Ummmnh, that would have been me, you may also remember that I posted $5000 along with the ithingy, you can send that back to me as well. Hendrik who is sitting by the letterbox waiting for his igadget and cash LWB250 wrote: Somebody (Rich?) sent me a white 13 iBook a couple of years ago to

Re: [MBZ] W123 front end rebuild

2011-10-22 Thread Max
Once you get the LCA's off, take them to a shop for the joints and the bushings. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: With all this talk on front end rebuilds in the air this is a good time to ask. I'm planning a front end rebuild on my

Re: [MBZ] Upcoming auction

2011-10-22 Thread Dieselhead
I'd settle for 10% of that gummit gayronteed loan.But I am sure the (Bambam buddy) company muckymucks have sequestered all that offshore and out of reach somewhere. I don't see where much of it could be spent between the grant and the bankruptcy. Bambam probably ends up with a cut of it

Re: [MBZ] W116, driver's power window

2011-10-22 Thread Russ Williams
Get a can of Right Stuff Gasket sealer. I've used sealing up Antenna Motors. Easy to remove if you have to open the motor again. Don't go overboard with it though. Russ W. On 10/22/2011 7:56 PM, Allan Streib wrote: Allan Streibstr...@cs.indiana.edu writes: I'm not sure how to seal up the

Re: [MBZ] Upcoming auction

2011-10-22 Thread Dieselhead
nice toys from blowing all that goberm'nt money, huh? G... Mr. Mann gives me an idea for a more appropriate term: goberm'nt = GOOBERm'nt, cause the current crop is sure a bunch of goobers without any real work (world) experience. Maybe Goobermut? Speaking of goobers:

Re: [MBZ] W126 front end rebuild

2011-10-22 Thread Dieselhead
Definitely rent the ball joint tool from Rusty for a 126. You can knock the old ones out with the same 1 1/16 deep socket you used for R R injector nozzle holders Just put it over the stem of the old BJ (Best to take off the boot first, if it is still there.) and whack with a businesslike

Re: [MBZ] W116, driver's power window

2011-10-22 Thread Dieselhead
Another WIN! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] W116, driver's power window

2011-10-22 Thread Dieselhead
Congrats! that is a WIN and the price is right. Those are the best kind! Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu writes: Actually my book (W116 Chassis manual, section 72) does not talk about anything called a regulator. The instructions for removing the electric window opener and also the

Re: [MBZ] W116, driver's power window

2011-10-22 Thread Rich Thomas
Strong work. --R On 10/22/11 8:56 PM, Allan Streib wrote: Allan Streibstr...@cs.indiana.edu writes: Actually my book (W116 Chassis manual, section 72) does not talk about anything called a regulator. The instructions for removing the electric window opener and also the drive motor alone