Thanks to all who responded - I replaced them yesterday with new Bosch - 3
of the 5 were not working
Uh, Scott - you wrote - older 917's would that be a Porsche 917? ;-)
It does have a fusible link - or maybe just a fuse? on the inner fender -
the new GPs fixed it - it fired instantly -
There are two failure modes for pencil glow plugs -- either the
filament breaks and the GP goes open or the filament sags and shorts
on the side somewhere (or worse, the weld at the tip breaks, leaving
a tiny hole) and the filament grounds on the side of the pencil.
The shorted ones still
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M1, hyd lifters.
Wilton
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From: Scott and Gwen Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com
To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 12:45 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Glowing ]91 350SDL
What kind of oil in motor, too thick? You have
Has anyone found a product that actually works to keep the engine
areas cleaner?
A metal plate, strategically applied...
(Maybe not for your car.)
-- Jim
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Looking at an 89 300e. I know nothing about the gassers and this chassis.
What should I look for? What is too high for mileage?
Thanks, Mike
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Probably the most important thing is a properly working fuel
distributor. Parts are getting VERY expensive.
Next is suspension -- that car used the old design suspension links
and they are likely dead if not replaced fairly recently. Not a huge
job, but they drive horribly until you get
I've put another little rant on my web site:
http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/fog.html
This may evolve a bit over time, but I've been wanting
to say this for some time.
-- Jim
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Jim Cathey wrote:
I've put another little rant on my web site:
http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/fog.html
I have a solution. I haven't implemented it yet, but I'm THIS CLOSE to doing it.
Those little blue wire taps they make for tapping into the brake light wires to
hook up a trailer
Spot on Jim.
Fog light misuse is one of my bugs too.
Russ W.
On 12/18/2011 12:15 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:
I've put another little rant on my web site:
http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/fog.html
This may evolve a bit over time, but I've been wanting
to say this for some time.
-- Jim
A pair of 100W Dick Cepek off-road lights aimed a bit to the left are
adequate counter-measures.
--R
On 12/18/11 1:38 PM, Russ Williams wrote:
Spot on Jim.
Fog light misuse is one of my bugs too.
Russ W.
On 12/18/2011 12:15 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:
I've put another little rant on my web site:
At least I got home. The axle on my 83 240D has failed. Tap tap tap
turned into clack clack clack in about 10 miles of driving. While
crawling around under the car on the side of the road, I discovered
that the outer boot on the passenger side axle is torn and that is
where the sound
Yes it's the axle shaft. The cheap ones are Chinese! I've never done this job
but plenty here have.
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On Dec 18, 2011, at 2:38 PM, John Ingram joh...@cloud9.net wrote:
At least I got home. The axle on my 83 240D has failed. Tap tap tap turned
into clack clack clack in
It's not a hard job at all. I could go through it but if you google rr
w123 axle shaft there are a couple good writeups already.
Mike
On Dec 18, 2011 2:38 PM, John Ingram joh...@cloud9.net wrote:
At least I got home. The axle on my 83 240D has failed. Tap tap tap
turned into clack clack
They are pretty easy to replace if you follow the procedure. The worst
part is opening the diff to get at the clip, and getting it back in.
Make sure you first open the filler so you can be sure that you will be
able to refill the diff through a non-seized filler. Also make sure you
have
The two kinds are interchangeable. There are spacers on the diff end you
may have to change to get the clip to set tight to the side gear.
Mike
On Dec 18, 2011 2:52 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net
wrote:
They are pretty easy to replace if you follow the procedure. The
On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 2:10 PM, Rich Thomas
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:
What a bargain! Better than a lump of coal!
http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/2748017179.html
Alas, poor E34!
One of the top half-dozen best-looking postwar 4-door sedans IMHO.
Alex
This would be my guess too. However if you're getting the chance to crank 3
different times for 30 seconds I'm doubting the battery itself. Maybe a slight
corrosion on the cables? Easy to check at the battery end.
-Curt
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 17:43:29 -0600
From: Peter Frederick
Did you leave a 1 out of your post? 2 tons curb weight would leave out many
50's-60's era cars...
-Curt
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 19:17:20 -0600
From: Hans Neureiter diese...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rich? Max?
Message-ID:
Could have a Webasto heater, those were available equipment.
My mother's first car was a similar era beetle. She said the problem wasn't in
having enough heat it was in being able to control it adequately. Apparently
you either fried or froze, there were no in between settings.
Living in
I went through this a lot with my '96 Dodge Dakota, apparently it was an early
'96 and used a lot of '95 parts.
I remember having trouble with the starter, blower motor and alternator
specifically.
The starter especially, the '96 wasn't even close to right.
-Curt
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011
Marshall and I used to fight about this. I'd suggested replacing all the plugs
pro-actively every 50,000 miles or so and always replacing all of them at once.
He was of the mind that you need only replace them when they failed and only
replace those that had failed.
Under Marshall's rule I had
It'll spin plenty rapidly, but I don't wanta grind/spin it so; if glow plugs
are doing what they usually do, just a touch of the starter will start it.
52F this morning; glowed 30 sec. twice before START; 'fired immediately with
a touch of the starter - maybe 1/4 turn; well, not much more,
fried or froze sounds like B-52 heating system.
Wilton
- Original Message -
From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com
To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 3:42 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fw: vw antartica
Could have a Webasto heater, those were available
I agree with you. Keep the old good ones in your car as emergency spares. When
a glow plug fails and leaves you stranded it's going to be cold out. Usually
really cold. Not fun.
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 18, 2011, at 3:46 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:
Marshall and I used to
Unless the battery is really in trouble I don't think we're talking cold enough
to really worry about that. Even around freezing a 60x engine should start well
even with 15w40 conventional oil provided the preglow system, battery and
starter are all in good shape.
-Curt
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011
I am with Curt on this one. As I shared in a different thread - I replaced
all of mine for reasons I don't remember this summer and it starts GREAT,
like when I got back from driving a bus for 10 hours back and forth to
Chicago the other night and it was 4AM and the car was frosty. One 30
second
I never owned one of the Webasto gas fired heaters, but I had a buddy who had a
Karmann Ghia with one.
Froze or fried is right! That thing would run you out in short order.
Scared the heck out of me because it was gas(online) fired. I was convinced the
thing would blow up one day...
Dan
Sent
Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com writes:
Marshall and I used to fight about this. I'd suggested replacing all
the plugs pro-actively every 50,000 miles or so and always replacing
all of them at once. He was of the mind that you need only replace
them when they failed and only replace those
WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com writes:
It'll spin plenty rapidly, but I don't wanta grind/spin it so; if glow
plugs are doing what they usually do, just a touch of the starter will
start it. 52F this morning; glowed 30 sec. twice before START; 'fired
immediately with a touch of the starter - maybe
John Ingram joh...@cloud9.net writes:
Over the years I have taken most of this car apart but never an axle.
Is it difficult to replace? I notice that there are replacement
axles available starting at $159.95, remanufactured at $270, and GKN
Drivetech at $471. Does anyone have any
The prices you mention seem high. Call Rusty in the morning, I'm sure he has
them cheaper than his web site shows.
If necessary I could sell you one of my 240D shafts, but the shipping would not
be cheap unless you're very close to southern Michigan.
Mitch.
Rich Thomas wrote:
A pair of 100W Dick Cepek off-road lights aimed a bit to the left are
adequate counter-measures.
So the fog light users, or most of them anyway, know the fog lights are on, and
turn them off when you flash your auxiliaries at them?
Mitch.
or forget about it?)
LarryT
91 300D
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Further, the Dodge and Subaru fog lights are not even the proper
yellow color. The yellow is a result of selective filtering of the blue
light which would otherwise cause glare in the fog.
Didn't know you could easily rewire the fogs to be independent of the
low beams. I'll put that on my list.
no, what I did was flash my high beams, then if they flashed theirs, I
would put on the high beams and hit the 100Wers. That got their
attention but I am sure they had no idea as to why I would do such a
thing. One guy actually stopped once, waved me down as he was coming
toward me, and
Hello Dimitri,
With the 602 engine it's not possible to RR the GPs without removing
the intake manifold. At least I have never found a way unless I find a way
to make my hands shrink to 1/10 of their size!
In general I will typically go ahead and replace all 5 - mostly because
if 3
Temp has never been any worry at all before; 'just now since I replaced the
glow plugs. Prob started immediately when I replaced glow plugs.
Wilton
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From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com
To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 3:54
Yes, something's WRONG; not the starter and not bat.
BTW, 'never been worried 'bout hurting the starter; just no need to grind on
it if engine is not ready to run.
'Don't mind grinding when necessary.
Wilton
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From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu
To: Mercedes
On Sun, 18 Dec 2011 18:21:59 -0500 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:
Temp has never been any worry at all before; 'just now since I replaced
the glow plugs. Prob started immediately when I replaced glow plugs.
Kind of points to the glow plugs, doesn't it? Or maybe something you
disturbed when
That's nothing. People think I have my highs on all the time because my
side markers are partially clear... I frequently get the blink you! or
the I'll turn every flipping light on responses... They get the point if
I'm ticked enough to flash the high beams...
The fogs that were optional for my
On Sun, 18 Dec 2011 19:52:16 -0500 Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com
wrote:
I also have a personal preference to aim the drivers side headlight a
half degree or so lower than pass side, so the low-beam cut is well
below the oncoming traffic's line of site. Pass side is also a little
lower
I looked for something disturbed or shorted immediately and have several
times since; can't find anything yet.
Wilton
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From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 7:48 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Glowing ]91 350SDL
On
And, as best as I remember, there was the aera with the green
wires/harneses. 124 201 alike.
Power to the 123/126 and earlier cars.
Thinking of the adoption of computers in the automotive world makes me weep
(twice the wires, but where do they all go to?).
Yes, now we have ABS, ASC, Traction
Wow. I didn't know that the manifold had to be removed! The more I learn, the
more I realize how much I love my older OM615, 616 engines.
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 18, 2011, at 5:24 PM, Larry l02tur...@comcast.net wrote:
Hello Dimitri,
With the 602 engine it's not possible to RR the GPs
Dimitri Seretakis wrote:
Wow. I didn't know that the manifold had to be removed!
According to Marshall, you merely need the appropriate 1/4 drive Snap-On socket
with built in swivel.
Mitch.
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Fog lights are a decorative fad nowadays.
Used to be yellow and de-focused.
Just about anything on 4 wheels now comes with a front Bumper with 2
holes in it to make you spend cash to put something in that cannot be aimed
but looks good.
My Harley came with Passing Lights, which came on only at low
I'm replacing engine mounts on 240D that has an adjustable front engine
stop.
Found the following on the 'net:
Installing New Engine Mounts Made Easy...
by: Omar Sidak
There are slight differences between model years and types of transmissions
so please keep this in mind.
The 1980 W123 body
You saw the analysis results from M1 in my '87 300SDL at over 12,000 miles
per change - not a problem.
On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Larry l02tur...@comcast.net wrote:
Thanks Peter -
I had used only M1 for years until the difficulty in finding 15W40
and/or 15W50. Plus the cost is not
On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 12:59 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:
Is the #1 injection pipe different than the others?
Was it Alex that had a pipe made and said that afterward idle was a little
bit off?
Indeed it was! Good memory, Curt. Yes, #6 hard line (closest to the
firewall)
Check the strip fuse - then the connections to the GP relay? Start with the
easy stuff.
On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 7:06 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:
I looked for something disturbed or shorted immediately and have several
times since; can't find anything yet.
Wilton
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I think the bio-degradable wiring came in '90 or '91? Might not be an issue
in the '89, or I could be wrong.
On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 7:47 PM, Hans Neureiter diese...@gmail.com wrote:
And, as best as I remember, there was the aera with the green
wires/harneses. 124 201 alike.
Power to the
One more for the count please.
The moose was here since Friday. Big bull just left.
Drove the Benz today after it was neglected for a few weeks. Glow light
does not come on (bulb?)
Started OK in the low 50's on the firrst 5 sec pregloww try.
But it snarls at me. Sounds like an exhaust leak. I took
The light won't light if 2 GPs are bad. Check resistance or current
draw of the plugs first. Much easier than pulling out the cluster.
I think if #1 goes out, it won't light either. The circuit compares
#1 and each of the others, so if #1 burns out first, it thinks all 5
(on a 603) are
Don; I know.
The '87 EeDee was a suspect.
I think you rode in it.
It as was a cross-over year and I got lucky.
Confusing times.
124's were replaced by 201's.
E300D's were replaced by E300 Compressor's,
And after 1989 diesels were no longer sold in the USA.
Starting with the 190 class, I lost it.
Relay (new) has good main power (12v); fuse has good power both ends. Time,
maybe, tomorrow for more checking. How 'bout 12v at each relay plug
terminal during 30 sec. cycle? Relay likely not it, though; 'zackly same
prob with old relay. All plugs show good continuity. Need better meter
You do this with that SDL you keep threatening to replace.
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Hans - you've been feeling the flower power a bit too much lately --
I thought EeDee was a '95. Yes, it was a very nice ride!
The 201 came first in '84, followed by the 124 in '86 (at least in the US).
I own both a '90 and '92 300D 2.5 Turbo, so, yes, Diesels were (and still
are) sold in the US.
The circuit compares #1 and each of the others,
...compares #1 against _all_ of the others! The circuit is
quite clever and cancels the magnetic field generated by a
single-turn winding on a relay that feeds #'s 2-5 (say)
against a 4-turn counter-direction winding feeding #1. So
long as #1
Yes, you are correct. I am a decade off.
EeDee is a '95 W124. Ex takes good care of it and I still am consulted
(bust my knuckles).
I always thought the 201's succedes the 124's.
As far as the clatta, clatta goes, --- urban myths.
Courtesy transport from the dealer where my car was towed to after
worst part is opening the diff to get at the clip, and getting it back
in.
I use a short pair (4?) of vise-grips to grip the tab on the
retaining clip, it yanks out and pushes back in easily that way.
-- Jim
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I pull the cluster almost faster than I can open the hood.
Optimist/looser I am, a blown bulb ...
But a plug can also go out instantly like a light bulb.
You are correct. Marshal alays said: RTFM.
I don't have one, but the service manual says the same.
Thanks.
--
Hans Neureiter, Katy, TX
'82
Jim, you amaze me.
You explained so elegant how it does it.
I am always occupied by Ohm's law and forget electro magnetic induction
(Tesslers idea using it created AC,-- Chicago World Fair ---told Edison
off).
Who was the Italian that figured it out first?
Galvan? Farady was not Italian.
On Sun,
But than Dr. Booth also commended to replace all the fuses semi anually and
RTFM.
On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:
Marshall and I used to fight about this. I'd suggested replacing all the
plugs pro-actively every 50,000 miles or so and always replacing
You are learning.
'82 OM 517.xxx
Never changed the plugs and I still think it's the bulb in the Kluster.
I will disclose what I found after I dig in.
It's the pissant 7mm nuts that dissapear.
On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 7:51 PM, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.comwrote:
Wow. I didn't know that
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