Re: [MBZ] 124 headliner repair ideas

2014-12-06 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
HA! Yeah, anytime they add Aircraft or Marine the prices triple! LarryT 91 300D On 12/3/2014 1:02 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: WOW! The FAA approved, flame resistant, custom sewn headliner for our Cessna was only $200! I didn't know that anything for an aircraft could be less expensive

Re: [MBZ] 124 headliner repair ideas

2014-12-06 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Ah, but you missed my point - the aircraft certified headliner is 1/5th the price of the MB headliner for a car that is 40 years newer than my aircraft! On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 5:05 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: HA! Yeah, anytime they add Aircraft or Marine the

Re: [MBZ] 124 headliner repair ideas

2014-12-06 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
check Youtube for an instructional video - they have everything there!when I did my 911, I found a video there! LarryT 91 300D On 12/3/2014 1:11 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: In 110, 111, 112, 114, 115, 116, 108, 123, 124, and 126 cars, some of which are over 40 years old, I have

Re: [MBZ] 124 headliner repair ideas

2014-12-06 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
That's really surprising! Larry On 12/6/2014 6:08 PM, OK Don wrote: Ah, but you missed my point - the aircraft certified headliner is 1/5th the price of the MB headliner for a car that is 40 years newer than my aircraft! On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 5:05 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes

[MBZ] 124 headliner repair ideas

2014-12-03 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
The headliner in my '95 sedan is sagging. New from Classic Center with MBCA discount is over $1000. I'd like to know if anyone else has successfully repaired / re-glued a 124 headliner. I'm also open to trying other options, like removing the old headliner entirely, and installing some dynamat

Re: [MBZ] 124 headliner repair ideas

2014-12-03 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
WOW! The FAA approved, flame resistant, custom sewn headliner for our Cessna was only $200! I didn't know that anything for an aircraft could be less expensive than the similar item for a car. On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The

Re: [MBZ] 124 headliner repair ideas

2014-12-03 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
The plane does not have a 3 point star on the front (unless you have a 3 bladed prop). RB On 03/12/2014 12:02 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: WOW! The FAA approved, flame resistant, custom sewn headliner for our Cessna was only $200! I didn't know that anything for an aircraft could be less

Re: [MBZ] 124 headliner repair ideas

2014-12-03 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Is it just fabric with the bows, or is it glued to a substrate of some sort? Later models had like a fiberglass panel that the fabric was glued to. Those are easy to do, as you just get it out of the car, remove the old fabric and glue new fabric on, then reinstall. Dan Sent from my iPad

Re: [MBZ] 124 headliner repair ideas

2014-12-03 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
But you had better use the proper glue. You can guess how I know that. RB On 03/12/2014 12:04 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Is it just fabric with the bows, or is it glued to a substrate of some sort? Later models had like a fiberglass panel that the fabric was glued to. Those are

Re: [MBZ] 124 headliner repair ideas

2014-12-03 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
In 110, 111, 112, 114, 115, 116, 108, 123, 124, and 126 cars, some of which are over 40 years old, I have never seen this problem. Another reason I think pre-1990 MB are better. The headliner in my '95 sedan is sagging. New from Classic Center with MBCA discount is over $1000. I'd like to

Re: [MBZ] 124 headliner repair ideas

2014-12-03 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
I'm sure that there is a more appropriate place to buy auto headliner supplies, but this is the one I know about - http://www.aircraftspruce.com/search/search.php?s=headlinerx=0y=0 IIRC, the issue with old MB headliners was it shrinking and pulling out of the rear window molding. I'd glue it up

Re: [MBZ] 124 headliner repair ideas

2014-12-03 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
I think that all but one of my 107, 115, 123, 124, and 126 cars did have the headliner falling down in front of the rear window. However, I never did anything about it. On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: In 110, 111, 112, 114, 115, 116, 108,

Re: [MBZ] 124 headliner repair ideas

2014-12-03 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
JoAnn Fabrics sells the fabric and the spray adhesive for it. Expensive stuff ($20/can) but is application specific and is highly regarded as the stuff to do it with. The fabric isn't that expensive, maybe $15/yard. Dan Sent from my iPad On Dec 3, 2014, at 1:06 PM, Randy Bennell

Re: [MBZ] 124 headliner repair ideas

2014-12-03 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Dan, The fabric is glued to a foam/fiber substrate piece, and almost all of that glue has let go. The fabric is really only held up around the edges now. I'm tempted to get some plastic fasteners of some kind to rivet/staple the thing back into place. I'm sure from an assembly standpoint, the

Re: [MBZ] 124 headliner repair ideas

2014-12-03 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
I have the same issue with the G. Here in LA there are headliner repair guys. Some people recover the backing with suede and reinstall. Some camie 313 or any high tack spray upholstery adhesive on both surfaces, wait a few seconds until it tacks up to touch, then smooth it down, spray another

Re: [MBZ] 124 headliner repair ideas

2014-12-03 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 18:13:25 -0500 Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Is it just fabric with the bows, or is it glued to a substrate of some sort? Later models had like a fiberglass panel that the fabric was glued to. Those are easy to

Re: [MBZ] 124 headliner repair ideas

2014-12-03 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
I saw some headliner re-attachment thingies at NAPA yesterday - they are little barbed tacks that you stick up into the foam substrate and holds the fabric up. I think they wanted them spaced every two inches or so. Yes, they will look tacky, as they only come in one color and it's not likely to

Re: [MBZ] 124 headliner repair ideas

2014-12-03 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Thanks Don, may not be an elegant solution but effective and frugal. I wonder if I could cover the heads with something so they blend in... Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Dec 3, 2014 9:34 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: I saw some headliner re-attachment thingies at NAPA yesterday - they are

Re: [MBZ] 124 headliner repair ideas

2014-12-03 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
JoAnn Fabric has replacement fabric, it's the same stuff used by GM and Jeep, both of which have falling headliner issues. Remove the backing and bad headliner, scrape all the crap off, fit new fabric, and glue it on with 3M spray adhesive, just like putting a new foam pad in the engine