: Re: [MBZ] I'm feeling sleepy ...
Being the MB bigot that I am, I'd be looking for a nice 320 or 350 CDI --
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I think anything that displaces O2 in the air will cause light
headedness...
As far as economical, think how much it will be to replace
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On Behalf Of Tim C
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm feeling sleepy ...
My in-laws have 80k on one Prius, 10k or so on their second. Both bought
used, not sure
Bill Ringgold wrote:
Not exactly going the right direction on fuel use, but I do think I would
have a seriously nicer car for the miles I do drive.
I'm not totally sold on anything at the moment, but do love my MB's.
What's a year's worth of license, insurance, and interest on an old MBZ, as
: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 1:37 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm feeling sleepy ...
Bill Ringgold wrote:
Not exactly going the right direction on fuel use, but I do think I would
have a seriously nicer car for the miles I do drive.
I'm not totally sold on anything at the moment
Bill Ringgold wrote:
With the claimed 50 mpg on a Prius vs the @22 on my diesel it works out to
about $1,300/year for 12k miles.
And 4% interest on, say, $15,000, would be $600.
Oh, I left out annual depreciation. It's got to be thousands per year on a two
year old Pious. And nonzero on a
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Bill Ringgold wrote:
With the claimed 50 mpg on a Prius vs the @22 on my diesel it works out to
about $1,300/year
Bill Ringgold wrote:
Try less. The wife wants to look at the S420. We would be buying from a MB
employee [his personal car], serviced at the dealer. Maybe borrow $5K to
buy it, so some loss of interest, but with interest as it is, not losing
much there.
I was thinking that if you borrowed
: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 3:10 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm feeling sleepy ...
Bill Ringgold wrote:
Try less. The wife wants to look at the S420. We would be buying from a
MB
employee [his personal car], serviced at the dealer. Maybe borrow $5K to
buy it, so some loss
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On Behalf Of Bill Ringgold
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm feeling sleepy ...
Yes, that would suck. I enjoy the ride of the big MB enough to think I
would not be that happy going from a 300SD to a Prius ... except at the gas
Bill Ringgold wrote:
http://search.ebay.com/140522817143
How likely is this to be a money pit just to keep it going properly?
Generally speaking, you sell a car on eBay because you know that anybody who
looked at it in person wouldn't want to buy it.
Then you've got the usual Florida used
Oh, btw: It's a 'one owner' car, but it was titled in CA in 2001 and FL in 2002.
(maybe the one owner moved across the country). It was then titled in FL in
2006 and FL in 2010. I guess Florida vehicle titles expire every four years,
because we know it's a one owner car, right?
Mitch.
, 2011 4:45 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm feeling sleepy ... S500?
Oh, btw: It's a 'one owner' car, but it was titled in CA in 2001 and FL in
2002.
(maybe the one owner moved across the country). It was then titled in FL
in
2006 and FL in 2010. I guess Florida vehicle
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Bill Ringgold billr32...@comcast.netwrote:
I appreciate the attention to this. I also called my nephew who looked up
the records for his S500 customers. The general impression is to stay away
from anything that has an air suspension system.
I might be
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm feeling sleepy ... S500?
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Bill Ringgold
billr32...@comcast.netwrote:
I appreciate the attention to this. I also called my nephew who looked
As a Floridian who has registered plenty of cars here over the years, I can
assure you that Florida titles, like those in other states, do not expire.
Someone who tells you otherwise should be avoided, especially if it involves
the purchase of a car.
Dan
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On Mar 15, 2011, at
Dan Penoff wrote:
As a Floridian who has registered plenty of cars here over the years, I can assure you
that Florida titles, like those in other states, do not expire.
Someone who tells you otherwise should be avoided, especially if it involves
the purchase of a car.
What do you think of
Tires are pretty pricey. My buddy has a '03 S430, a brake job was like
$1k at the dealer 3 yr ago. Those are 2 data points I have.
--R
On 3/15/2011 3:30 PM, Bill Ringgold wrote:
OK, I think I might have talked myself out of the Prius, and like the 1996
dealer maintained S420 [127k miles].
Registered in FL? Are you SURE it has only the stated miles?
Wilton
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Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 4:44 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm feeling sleepy ... S500?
Oh, btw: It's
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On Behalf Of Bill Ringgold
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm feeling sleepy ...
Yes, that would suck. I enjoy the ride of the big MB enough to think I
would not be that happy going from
, 2011 5:32 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm feeling sleepy ... S500?
Tires are pretty pricey. My buddy has a '03 S430, a brake job was like
$1k at the dealer 3 yr ago. Those are 2 data points I have.
--R
On 3/15/2011 3:30 PM, Bill Ringgold wrote:
OK, I think I might have
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm feeling sleepy ... S500?
Bill, you're comparing apples and oranges here. The W140 stopped
production end of 99. Only
The events in question, if the title remained in the same owner's name, were
probably address changes, I would guess.
Dan
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From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net
Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm feeling sleepy ... S500?
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Before Roger beats me to it, the W202 and 203 are Common class models.
You may be thinking of the 210 and 211 Executive class.
BTW there is an saying along the lines of: an older Showoff class might
be cheaper to buy but is not cheaper to maintain.
It's always a good idea to price some of the
, 2011 7:38 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm feeling sleepy ... S500?
Before Roger beats me to it, the W202 and 203 are Common class models.
You may be thinking of the 210 and 211 Executive class.
BTW there is an saying along the lines of: an older Showoff class might
be cheaper
and you don't spend all that much time at the gas station ;-)
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 1:19 PM, Bill Ringgold billr32...@comcast.netwrote:
Yes, that would suck. I enjoy the ride of the big MB enough to think I
would not be that happy going from a 300SD to a Prius ... except at the gas
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Just drive with the windows down and don't worry about it.
--R
On 3/13/2011 9:33 PM, Bill Ringgold wrote:
... which Manfred tells me is due to a 3/4 -1' hole in the muffler of my
1981 300SD. He is helping me with the car, and a muffler
I hope Manfred is catching all these good suggestions.
Bill R
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On Behalf Of OK Don
Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2011 10:30 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm feeling sleepy
up a bit I can think
about another diesel someday.
Bill R
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm feeling sleepy
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Sent: Mon, March 14, 2011 7:41:24 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm feeling sleepy ...
I'll suggest that to him. We are working out a trade whereby he does a lot
of time consuming small stuff that I can't do and can't afford to pay
$70/hour to have repaired
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On Behalf Of Max Dillon
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm feeling sleepy ...
If you want high mileage in a small car, why spend so much on the car? I
think
Hyundai offers a model for about
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm feeling sleepy ...
If you want high mileage in a small car, why spend so much on the car? I
think
Hyundai offers a model for about $7k that gets over 40 mpg; those economics
make
Bill Ringgold wrote:
I'm thinking a 2008 hybrid Prius with the comforts this old body wants will
run about $18K. I have wondered about some of the new Hyundai models, but
do not want a stripped down model, even though we have the S320 for road
trips. Worth looking at, but and extra 10 mpg is
: Monday, March 14, 2011 9:32 AM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm feeling sleepy ...
Oh god not a Prius! How about a Jetta diesel? Around 20K new, gives around
45 mpg and is a real car, not some cheesoid entomomorphic wannabe spaceship.
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On Mar 14, 2011, at 9:14
Oh god not a Prius! How about a Jetta diesel? Around 20K new, gives
around 45 mpg and is a real car, not some cheesoid entomomorphic
wannabe spaceship.
Them smugmobiles is ugly!
-- Jim
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On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 6:47 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:
A good economy car without the battery might get 30 city and 40 hwy, so I
would only pay more for the Hybrid if I were planning on doing a lot of
local driving. For my driving, I'd take a good look at a Chevy Cruze before
B Wrong! The base assumption here is that carbon monoxide
(CO) from the exhaust is making you sleepy. The car is a 300SD.
That means it is a Diesel. Diesel exhaust will not kill you or your
canary. Diesel exhaust has negligible CO content. Diesel exhaust
WILL NOT make you
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm feeling sleepy ...
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 6:47 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:
A good economy car without the battery might get 30 city and 40 hwy, so I
would only pay
Good to know. Thanks.
Bill R
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On Behalf Of Dieselhead
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm feeling sleepy ...
B Wrong! The base
If I were looking for true mileage, I'd get a 1960 Ford Falcon with the 144 cu
in straight 6. My Dad's got 30-32 mpg with 6 people in the car. Or you could
get a 4 cyc Renault Daphne. My brother in law had a 1960 that got 40 mpg
consistently. Yes, I know these are old cars, but they point out
Well, not totally true. Diesel exhaust might kill you but it will take
some time. Those particles are not so good for the lungs over the long haul.
Randy
B Wrong! The base assumption here is that carbon monoxide
(CO) from the exhaust is making you sleepy. The car is a 300SD.
That
Or, if you want to be bit classier, get one of the early Mustangs with
the small inline 6 and a manual transmission. I had a 65 with the 170
cid engine. No hot rod but really good mileage on it too. Wish I still
had it (doesn't everyone say that?).
Randy
On 14/03/2011 11:26 AM,
On 14/03/2011 9:48 AM, Alex Chamberlain wrote:
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 6:47 AM, Mitch Haleym...@voyager.net wrote:
A good economy car without the battery might get 30 city and 40 hwy, so I
would only pay more for the Hybrid if I were planning on doing a lot of
local driving. For my driving,
Roger wrote:
Yes, I know these are old cars, but they point out how little we've improved
in mpg over the past 50 years.
You are getting too cynical.
I am too cynical also.
Where is tech getting us - especially in transportation?
Bluetooth, CD changers, computers on wheels, computer ABS,
on any
more, and she is right.
Bill R
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Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 12:27 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm feeling sleepy ...
If I were looking
Bill Ringgold wrote:
I notice no one is suggesting a Smart. I have pretty well ruled that one
out because on occasion I haul three grandkids around, and I don't think
that a Smart would be able to do that.
The Smart, and the New Mini, along with gas versions of the New Beetle, use too
much
I think anything that displaces O2 in the air will cause light headedness...
As far as economical, think how much it will be to replace that battery pack
in the prius when it goes flat...
I think a TDI Jetta would be the bees knees, torquey, fun, cheap enough.
Walt
On Mar 14, 2011 1:44 PM,
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 10:59 AM, Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com wrote:
I think a TDI Jetta would be the bees knees, torquey, fun, cheap enough.
My ex's 2000 New Beetle TDI consistently got 40 mpg highway, 35 mpg about
50-50 city/highway. That was with a slushbox, so I imagine it would
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I'll suggest that to him. We are working out a trade whereby he does a lot
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:
Remember how much the TAX will be, and your payments and increased
insurance and then tell me how much better the Prius is...
Chevy Malibu and Ford Fusion are probably some of the best deals out there
for boring day
]. I'll be checking out the Jetta, so I'm not firmly
settled as yet.
Bill R
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm feeling
].
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On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 10:59 AM, Walt Zarnoch
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On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:
Remember how much the TAX will be, and your payments and increased
insurance and then tell me how much better the Prius is...
Chevy Malibu and Ford Fusion
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On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com
wrote:
Remember how much the TAX will be, and your payments
I think a TDI Jetta would be the bees knees, torquey, fun, cheap enough
And it would still have that Clatta Clatta! I'm thinking of getting a daily
driver vehicle that's less cumbersome and more economical than the big Ram
pickup. It's good for hauling stuff and dragging the boat around.
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I think my biggest fight over choosing an American car comes from having
grown up in the 1960's and 70's
I have a good friend who is married to a CPA that is a real penny pincher. They
bought a Prius new with the intent of saving big bucks due to her 60+/day
commute.
As she tells the story, the car started out with great mileage, somewhere
upwards of 50 mpg, but over time ended up being around 35
cheap,
either, and also proprietary.
I will need to do some more checking.
Bill R
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm
Being the MB bigot that I am, I'd be looking for a nice 320 or 350 CDI --
OK Don
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... which Manfred tells me is due to a 3/4 -1' hole in the muffler of my
1981 300SD. He is helping me with the car, and a muffler [without the holes]
is needed. Manfred can weld it in place, so just 5-6 of pipe is needed on
the muffler. Anyone got one at a reasonable price that will fit on the
Just drive with the windows down and don't worry about it.
--R
On 3/13/2011 9:33 PM, Bill Ringgold wrote:
... which Manfred tells me is due to a 3/4 -1' hole in the muffler of my
1981 300SD. He is helping me with the car, and a muffler [without the holes]
is needed. Manfred can weld it in
Or fix the hole in the floor that is letting the fumes in ---
On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 8:37 PM, Rich Thomas
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:
Just drive with the windows down and don't worry about it.
--R
On 3/13/2011 9:33 PM, Bill Ringgold wrote:
... which Manfred tells me is
OK Don wrote:
Or fix the hole in the floor that is letting the fumes in ---
Instead of another rusty old muffler with 5-6 of pipe on it, why don't you weld
in 5-6' of brand new pipe? Show the people behind you what a turbine sounds like.
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Mitch wrote:
Instead of another rusty old muffler with 5-6 of pipe on it...
You make it sound like rusty is a bad word.
Around here, Rusty is a good word, no?
He can get you good price on new metal, I bet.
mao
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On Mar 13, 2011, at 10:35 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:
OK Don wrote:
Or fix the hole in the floor that is letting the fumes in ---
Instead of another
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