Our KitchenAid bifold ice maker is and has been a brick for 6.75 years.
On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 2:26 AM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
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> I have a GE fridge and everything related to water and ice failed
> within the first two years.
>
> Allan
>
> Kaleb Striplin via
I have a GE fridge and everything related to water and ice failed
within the first two years.
Allan
Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes writes:
> Oh geez, never buy Samsung appliances, especially refrigerators. Ours is
> great, but the ice maker does not work, period. It continually jambs
> and
Oh hey, I forgot to tell the other big camp story from last week. We got a
refrigerator!
Onna these in white:
https://uniqueappliances.com/product/8-cu-ft-propane-fridge/?c=72e1ba2726d6
8 cu ft is pretty small but at $1500 delivered propane fridges are pretty
spendy. Ours weighs as much as the
Oh geez, never buy Samsung appliances, especially refrigerators. Ours is
great, but the ice maker does not work, period. It continually jambs
and freezes up and I noticed the ice makers on the new models are
exactly like ours. I am tempted to dump it or move it as a spare fridge
to the
The things are not that smart. That feature would be good. I have to visit a
web site and use QR coding to access programming to input through the phone
into the appliance to activate the special sock wash and eat cycle, or sanitize
and shred bedsheets.
clay
“I think it’s time we stopped
The new opener in GWN has that option. I could not make my phone work with it.
The rest of the household figured it out. I do not see a need to use my phone
to have some hacker track me. The former keypad opener was not compatible with
the new machine. A replacement arrived today that wants
I have a Samsung fridge, the ice makers have minds of their own
--FT
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> On Oct 17, 2020, at 9:04 AM, Robert Massmann via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> I have replaced it with a Samsung which hopefully, is be better engineered
> than the LG, but only time will tell.
Last washer I bought was from Lowes. They didn't have the model I wanted
in stock, but had it on their website, so I ordered it online and had it
delivered to the local Lowes store, where I picked it up. Took a few
extra days but worked out fine.
All our local appliance stores but one are gone,
I had a similar issue with a replacement tail light lens for Angie's car. It
was really poorly packed in just a light cardboard box. Think cereal box and
you wouldn't be far off.
They got me a good one on the second try and compared to all the other places
the price was very good but it was
This one was $1400 IIRC. The home warranty paid for $1200 of it.
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> On Oct 19, 2020, at 5:17 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
>
>
> Prices on good quality dishwashers have gone up 20 percent in the past 6
> months.
>
>> On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 6:14 PM Kaleb Striplin via
Yup always buy local. Boycott big boxes.
Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI
On Mon, Oct 19, 2020, 6:09 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
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> My brother-in-law is building a new place. They went to Lowes or Home
> Depot, I forget which, for appliances and were told some sob
Prices on good quality dishwashers have gone up 20 percent in the past 6
months.
On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 6:14 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
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> Our new top of the line Bosch dishwasher we ordered 2 months ago is
> supposed to be delivered this week.
>
> Sent from
Our new top of the line Bosch dishwasher we ordered 2 months ago is supposed to
be delivered this week.
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> On Oct 19, 2020, at 5:03 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> I was simply aghast when I walked through Lowe’s the other day and I didn’t
> see a refrigerator
My brother-in-law is building a new place. They went to Lowes or Home Depot, I
forget which, for appliances and were told some sob story, can't get appliances
until January. They'd like to move in by November...
Then they tried a local appliance place, they had everything in stock,
delivered 2
I was simply aghast when I walked through Lowe’s the other day and I didn’t see
a refrigerator in one aisle for less than $2k. That’s nuts.
-D
> On Oct 19, 2020, at 5:58 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:
>
> My brother-in-law is building a new place. They went to Lowes or Home Depot,
> I forget which,
If it will tell you what part is broken you can just order and install it
yourself, saving some cash potentially on repair people.
On Sun, Oct 18, 2020 at 5:04 PM Clay via Mercedes
wrote:
> New appliances are toys not tools. I have no need to interface with my
> washer or fridge over wifi.
PO of my house put one of those in on the main garage door, so I got it by
default when I bought the house.
The notifications are a little annoying, but the ability to open and close with
the app can be convenient when I’m in a car that doesn’t have a remote.
Mine is a belt drive, and the
My landlord’s guy just installed a new garage door opener in the joint. It has
Wifi. I valiantly fought the urge to download the app that allows me to open
and close the door and know the status of the door from anywhere on earth. I
lasted two days and then I did it mainly to mess with my
New appliances are toys not tools. I have no need to interface with my washer
or fridge over wifi. EVER. Except, now I do, if I want to access the more
arcane and magical permutations of cleaning or food storage. I prefer analog
with the brain engagement over expecting some programmer who
I totally agree. This is my favorite, most trouble free washing machine.
https://columbuswashboard.com/products/sunnyland-washboard
On Sat, Oct 17, 2020 at 3:28 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
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> It's hard to draw broad conclusions from anecdotes. My LG front-loader
It's hard to draw broad conclusions from anecdotes. My LG front-loader
lasted 13 years with one minor failure (drain pump, which was easy to
replace thanks to good design) prior to its final fatal failure. It was
serving a family of 5 so it got a lot of use during that time.
Samsung and LG are
ts energy usage.
>
> I have replaced it with a Samsung which hopefully, is be better engineered
> than the LG, but only time will tell.
>
> Bob Massmann
>
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Now it's the washing machine
Well the new LG washer ate its drain pump. Lasted a couple years max. Of
course it probably did 5 million
Last time I needed a drain pump for an LG I ordered it on Amazon to save
a few bucks. It arrived broken. They did exchange it, but that's
annoying and left me without a washer for longer than necessary. The
eventual replacement did work and lasted until the pot-metal drum
support broke (see the
For what it’s worth, I was wondering about the chatter about new appliances
being unobtanium due to everyone staying home with the pandemic. Our new house
had no appliances even though they were on the description, so we negotiated
$3k off the price. The builder said they can’t get stuff fast
Well the new LG washer ate its drain pump. Lasted a couple years max. Of
course it probably did 5 million loads of Laundry during that time. I
wonder if it has a load counter on it.
LG has only one warehouse and its in AL. So we are without a washer until
next week. Kind of unbelievable given
I've got an old coffee can, pot, jug, whatever you call a plastic thing that
once held a couple pounds of coffee. In that I separated the acid into plastic
sandwich bags so that if the humidity got to one it would only ruin that bag.
The whole thing is in the basement which is the worst
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--FT
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> On May 28, 2020, at 10:46 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes
> wrote:
Exactly. It’s cheap and does the job, and I don’t have to mess with storing a
big tub of it. Around here there’s a good chance it would solidify into a giant
block if not tightly sealed due to the humidity.
-D
> On May 28, 2020, at 10:41 AM, Curt Raymond wrote:
>
> I bought 5# of citric acid
I bought 5# of citric acid on Amazon for like $20, 7 or 8 years ago for
cleaning lantern founts. A teaspoon full in a gallon of water makes a good
de-rusting agent. Ought to clean your washer too as the active ingredient in
your lemonade is citric acid.
-Curt
On Thursday, May 28, 2020,
Karl,
I get the boxes of 10 “sticks” of sugar free lemonade mix at WalMart and use 5
of them in the washing machine. I’ve got a top loader that has a “tub clean”
mode, so I dump them in the tub, shut the lid and turn it to that. A couple
hours later it’s done and the insides are now lemony
How many scoops per load? And how much goes in the radiator?
On Mon, May 25, 2020, 9:52 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes
wrote:
> I buy generic “Kool-Aid” lemonade and use it to run cleaning cycles on the
> dishwasher and washing machine.
>
> -D
>
> > On May 25, 2020, at 12:49 PM, Karl Wittnebel via
We leave ours open. Of course those doing laundry around here have a bad habit
of doing a load, then forgetting about it and coming back the next day to dry
it and by that time the cloths have to be washed again because they stink.
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> On May 26, 2020, at 3:21 AM, Max Dillon
Leave the door ajar, and wipe out the little puddle on the seal.
I also use a half scoop of plain unscented OxyClean per load unless I'm using
bleach. No mildew, clean clothes.
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> We always leave our washer door open, no mildew, 20 years of use.
Top loaders, too. It's not in the way of anything, another advantage IMHO.
-- Jim
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I did.
-D
> On May 26, 2020, at 4:21 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> Those of you with front loader mildew: do you keep the door closed when the
> washer is not in use? We always leave our washer door open, no mildew, 20
> years of use.
>
> May 25, 2020 8:42:17 AM Dimitri
Those of you with front loader mildew: do you keep the door closed when the
washer is not in use? We always leave our washer door open, no mildew, 20
years of use.
May 25, 2020 8:42:17 AM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes :
> Yes I have a 12 ish year old Maytag front loader and it does have
I buy generic “Kool-Aid” lemonade and use it to run cleaning cycles on the
dishwasher and washing machine.
-D
> On May 25, 2020, at 12:49 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> Running those Affresh packets through the machine periodically and leaving
> the door ajar when not in use
Running those Affresh packets through the machine periodically and leaving
the door ajar when not in use seem to fix the smell issue for us.
On Mon, May 25, 2020, 6:07 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes
wrote:
> We struggled with this on a GE front loader bought in the early 2000s.
> Unfortunately, it
I used to want an on-premises commercial Speed Queen. (laundromat quality
but no coin box)
Back in 2002 a front loader was about $1400.
I ended up getting Mom a high efficiency Fisher and Paykel top loader
instead. Spiritual ancestor to the Whirlpool Calypso.
No belts or gearbox. Just a high
On Sun, May 24, 2020 10:38 pm, Clay via Mercedes wrote:
> Water is rather hard. Canât have a teapot on the stove because it
> cakes up inside.
Friend of mine runs distilled water in the coffee maker.
Keurig doesn't get crudded up.
Also, distilled water apparently has less dissolved air in it,
Yup nothing better than just going back to old school simplicity.
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> On May 25, 2020, at 9:07 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> We struggled with this on a GE front loader bought in the early 2000s.
> Unfortunately, it was not one of the front loaders covered
We struggled with this on a GE front loader bought in the early 2000s.
Unfortunately, it was not one of the front loaders covered under the massive
recall campaign that seemed to affect nearly every one that was built. I used
to drain the sump almost weekly, but could never get it totally
Yes I have a 12 ish year old Maytag front loader and it does have mildew smell
issues.
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> On May 24, 2020, at 2:24 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> Took the back panel off and can see the motor but not the bearing. Turns
> fairly easily by hand but something is
Correct. Whirlpool was the primary supplier of Kenmore label products when it
came to large appliances.
-D
> On May 24, 2020, at 10:03 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> Clay via Mercedes writes:
>
>> The washer drier set that came with the house was kenmore from the late
>> ‘60s.
Water is rather hard. Can’t have a teapot on the stove because it cakes up
inside.
clay
I have no pronouns please do not refer to me.
> On May 24, 2020, at 6:32 PM, fmiser via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
>> Clay wrote:
>
>> It does a much better job than the turd HE top load,
>
>> Whites are
> Clay wrote:
> It does a much better job than the turd HE top load,
> Whites are dusky instead of BRIGHT white
Maybe it the water...
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AK house got a new LG washer just before WRD hit. Front load, top of the score
from Consumer Rip-off. The instruction manual is in four languages. Mostly
pictures. And all it covers is how to turn the thing on to do “normal” load.
There are a bunch more options, but to use them you need
Clay via Mercedes writes:
> The washer drier set that came with the house was kenmore from the late ‘60s.
> The washer failed, but the dryer kept on blazing the moisture out of cloth
> until 2008. It was replaced by the orphaned stacked unit dryer from the
> upstair remodel when the washer
> Took one more look at it and tried scraping some of the corrosion and
> gunk off with a screwdriver. The metal is crumbling away. I think it's
> too far gone.
Yep, if the tin worm has got at it... Replace the part, either solo or in
concert.
-- Jim
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control boards cook/desolder with prolonged high oven temps. Was expensive,
but better than purchasing new to have a fresh board installed
Yep, you got to wash them skid marks out of your shorts.
On 5/24/2020 5:26 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
I guess it sounds plausible. Looking at the part though, it's pretty
corroded from the center to about 2/3 of the way out each of the
arms. It would take a good amount of time with a
Took one more look at it and tried scraping some of the corrosion and
gunk off with a screwdriver. The metal is crumbling away. I think it's
too far gone.
Allan
Allan Streib writes:
> I guess it sounds plausible. Looking at the part though, it's pretty
> corroded from the center to about 2/3
> figuring out a way to clamp it ensuring that the shaft stays perpendicular
Not too much necessary. The part probably cracked and the crack propagated
along one leg. Once broken, the additional movement stressed the second leg to
break. Once cracked it probably wasn't properly perpendicular
I guess it sounds plausible. Looking at the part though, it's pretty
corroded from the center to about 2/3 of the way out each of the
arms. It would take a good amount of time with a die grinder to get all
of that down to clean metal. Plus fitting the wood and gluing, figuring
out a way to clamp
I would clean and rough up the metal thoroughly. Then rig a clamp or jigs
to hold the piece so that one of the broken off pieces can sit back in place
without aid. Then I'd mix a bit of JB-weld and dab it all along the break,
both edges. Then sit the broken piece on and let it cure. This will
> IDK about that As you can see by all the gunk and corrosion this is
> a part that is wet and at least partially submerged when the washer is
> running. Can't really imagine wood and JB weld holding up for long?
I can. For starters, trees are wet 100% of the time while living. But the
main
IDK about that As you can see by all the gunk and corrosion this is
a part that is wet and at least partially submerged when the washer is
running. Can't really imagine wood and JB weld holding up for long?
Allan
Jim Cathey writes:
> Acetone clean the broken part, cut sturdy hardwood
He still has a plastic drum that has been ground on to the point of smoking
and leaking shocks that need to be replaced. The time to cut and fit the
wood blocks would not be minimal, at least for me to do it.
On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 4:08 PM Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
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Acetone clean the broken part, cut sturdy hardwood blocks to fit snugly
in the webs, and pot it all back together with JB-Weld. Will be stronger
than new. Costs about $5, if you have to go buy the glue.
-- Jim
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Yup - a new one sounds like a good plan. The wear in the plastic tub could
become a problem (leaking) in the future as well.
On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 3:52 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
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> Took the machine apart. Not particularly difficult, but a little
> tedious.
Oft-overlooked costs of replacement are the hauling and disposal of
the old, the time it takes to install, hook up, and learn about the new one.
The time it takes to re-train all operators on how to best use it, etc.
Plus packaging disposal, cleanup, patching wall dings...
Keeping one you _like_
I pay for my water. Not a lot, in comparison to some areas, but it's not
free. Front loaders use less water which is the main reason I bought
this one.
I do have our old top-loader out in the garage, which I will probably
use until I decide whether to repair or replace the LG, assuming it's
still
Took the back panel off and can see the motor but not the bearing. Turns
fairly easily by hand but something is scraping.
The current base level LG front-loader (without WiFi and other useless
gizmos, and basically the current model repacement for what I have) is
on sale at Lowes right now so I
We have an LG in-line compressor refrigerator that’s half way into it’s 5th
year. It seems to be doing just fine, but will probably begin to complain after
I send this! Our Whirlpool top mount refrigerator in my Shoffice has begun to
sound as if it has a cricket inside it after just over 4
> Was pretty happy with this LG washer until now, I guess 10 years is a
> reasonable lifespan.
No, it's not. But not too horrible if all it needs is a reasonably-priced
servicing. I do not ever intend to have a front-loader, I think they're
inherently more failure-prone. Water here is free.
I haven’t bought a refrigerator or washer in a minute. What about going old
school? Kenmore? Maytag? What are their stories?
Bob R
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> On May 24, 2020, at 6:47 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> We bought a Samsung refrigerator about 2 years ago. While
We bought a Samsung refrigerator about 2 years ago. While the refrigerator
itself is so far good, their ice makers are total piles of crap. Ours is a
French door refrigerator with the freezer in the bottom. It has 2 ice makes one
up top for the door and one in the bottom freezer. The bottom one
I just went thru this with our 15 year old Maytag front loader. Bearings were
noisy for probably a year or 2 before I finally did the job but they never
started smoking. Sounds like you might have more serious problems. In any case
the machine had to be nearly completely disassembled but it was
I bought a Bosch at least ten years ago. No issues at all. Not cheap, but
then you do often get what you pay for, eh?
I don't know how available they are now, I got mine at Lowes when they
discontinued them.
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FWIW:
Internet wisdom (the same wisdom that says Honda and Toyota have mythical
powers of dependability) says Samsung washers are as unreliable as LG
liner compressor refrigerators.
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Washing machine suddenly very noisy tonight. LG front-loader, probably
close to 10 years old. Went to check on it and found the wash tub is
full of smoke and smoke is pouring out of the detergent tray.
So I'm guessing it's the main tub bearing, which repair clinic sells for
$20 but says it is a
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