Re: [MBZ] OT: Retrospect backup problem

2009-05-27 Thread Curt Raymond
LOL the ones that say if you see water here shut off the computer now!? I've got one of those, I'm keeping it around to see how long before it starts to leak... -Curt Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 16:01:00 -0700 (PDT) From: LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Retrospect backup problem

Re: [MBZ] OT: Retrospect backup problem

2009-05-26 Thread Curt Raymond
setting to change though. If you try it and it goes to webpages very slowly drop a note and we can fix you right up. -Curt Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 20:32:30 -0400 From: LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Retrospect backup problem To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] OT: Retrospect backup problem

2009-05-26 Thread dave walton
but not a workstation. -Curt Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 12:57:36 -0700 From: tyler casi...@usermail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Retrospect backup problem To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 4a1703b0.2010...@usermail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format

Re: [MBZ] OT: Retrospect backup problem

2009-05-26 Thread Ed Booher
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm going to blow my mind and again stick up for Microsoft. Its simply not their fault that Toshiba doesn't make XP drivers... Thats like blaming MB because your 240D doesn't support the hydrogen economy... Date:

Re: [MBZ] OT: Retrospect backup problem

2009-05-26 Thread Curt Raymond
have done in the first place instead of messing around for a week. -Curt Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 17:45:39 -0700 (PDT) From: LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Retrospect backup problem To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 671836.95329...@web65710.mail.ac4

Re: [MBZ] OT: Retrospect backup problem

2009-05-26 Thread archer
How do you keep your backup servers ready to use in case of a breakdown? Do you update them daily or is there a continuous or simultaneous backup? Thanks, Gerry --- From: dave walton walton.d...@gmail.com In a business environment you need spares. Any

Re: [MBZ] OT: Retrospect backup problem

2009-05-26 Thread dave walton
Load balancing, mirroring, log shipping, clustering and/or virtualization depending on what the server is doing and how deep the customer's pockets are. Microsoft does not require an additional SQL License for a Mirror server. The Datacenter edition of Windows allows for any number of VM's to run

Re: [MBZ] OT: Retrospect backup problem

2009-05-26 Thread tyler
If someone is using any Microsoft products at all on a mission critical server, they have bigger problems that no amount of redundancy will correct IMO. Postgresql requires no license, but one can purchase a professional support contract from a 3rd party. It also doesn't suffer from the

Re: [MBZ] OT: Retrospect backup problem

2009-05-26 Thread dave walton
Thousands of consultants around the world wake up every morning thankful that businesses continue to use crappy Microsoft products and pay people like me to try to keep them working :-) I put in Linux boxes and applications when I can but I know when I leave a Debian install that I may NEVER see

Re: [MBZ] OT: Retrospect backup problem

2009-05-26 Thread tyler
Nice response! Hilarious, and shockingly honest! dave walton wrote: Thousands of consultants around the world wake up every morning thankful that businesses continue to use crappy Microsoft products and pay people like me to try to keep them working :-) I put in Linux boxes and applications

Re: [MBZ] OT: Retrospect backup problem

2009-05-26 Thread LWB250
--- On Tue, 5/26/09, dave walton walton.d...@gmail.com wrote: From: dave walton walton.d...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Retrospect backup problem To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Tuesday, May 26, 2009, 10:06 AM In a business environment you need spares. Any amount

Re: [MBZ] OT: Retrospect backup problem

2009-05-26 Thread LWB250
: [MBZ] OT: Retrospect backup problem To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Tuesday, May 26, 2009, 11:32 AM Education and enterprise you're talking customers with many (hundreds?) of machines right? What about a video production house with maybe 5 machines. How can they afford 2-3 days

Re: [MBZ] OT: Retrospect backup problem

2009-05-25 Thread Curt Raymond
take that kind of chance on a machine they use for work. Home machine sure but not a workstation. -Curt Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 12:57:36 -0700 From: tyler casi...@usermail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Retrospect backup problem To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID

Re: [MBZ] OT: Retrospect backup problem

2009-05-25 Thread Peter Frederick
that kind of chance on a machine they use for work. Home machine sure but not a workstation. -Curt Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 12:57:36 -0700 From: tyler casi...@usermail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Retrospect backup problem To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 4a1703b0.2010

Re: [MBZ] OT: Retrospect backup problem

2009-05-25 Thread LWB250
took a good 2-3 days to show up, unless we screamed bloody murder. Dan --- On Mon, 5/25/09, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Retrospect backup problem To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Monday

Re: [MBZ] OT: Retrospect backup problem

2009-05-22 Thread Tim C .
: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 1:32 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Retrospect backup problem A sorta related question -- I want to set up a dedicated machine in my shop to run my CNC machine, I can bodge one up using some old stuff I have around. The control

[MBZ] OT: Retrospect backup problem

2009-05-22 Thread archer
Hi Loren, While using the computer yesterday, WinXP crashed. Using several roundabout methods I managed to boot it up but every time I tried to staighten it out it ran into roadblocks. Using the MS repair program on the WinXP disc didn't help. The taskbar along the bottom of the screen seems to

Re: [MBZ] OT: Retrospect backup problem

2009-05-22 Thread Rich Thomas
full boot IIRC). HDD dupe will probably not do what you want. Cheers, -Tim -Original Message- From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 1:32 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Retrospect backup problem

Re: [MBZ] OT: Retrospect backup problem

2009-05-22 Thread Loren Faeth
mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Retrospect backup problem A sorta related question -- I want to set up a dedicated machine in my shop to run my CNC machine, I can bodge one up using some old stuff I have around. The control software I use runs on XP. I have XP on a disk. I vaguely

Re: [MBZ] OT: Retrospect backup problem

2009-05-22 Thread dave walton
).  HDD dupe will probably not do what you want. Cheers, -Tim -Original Message- From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 1:32 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT:  Retrospect backup problem A sorta

Re: [MBZ] OT: Retrospect backup problem

2009-05-22 Thread tyler
Another reason to use a Mac- every time I've called Apple, I get to speak to a fluent English speaker. I have nothing against Indian people, but I do have something against a company who offers phone support for products sold in the USA, but doesn't staff their call center with people who

Re: [MBZ] OT: Retrospect backup problem

2009-05-22 Thread Loren Faeth
you want. Cheers, -Tim -Original Message- From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 1:32 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Retrospect backup problem A sorta related question -- I want to set up

Re: [MBZ] OT: Retrospect backup problem

2009-05-22 Thread LarryT
dupe will probably not do what you want. Cheers, -Tim -Original Message- From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 1:32 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Retrospect backup problem A sorta related

Re: [MBZ] OT: Retrospect backup problem

2009-05-22 Thread LarryT
22, 2009 5:06 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Retrospect backup problem I've battled problems with so-called help from MS tech support. I usually do it all via email and still have language problems. I usually send an email an then they repeat my problem - usually incorrectly - before saying

Re: [MBZ] OT: Retrospect backup problem

2009-05-22 Thread Ed Booher
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 8:32 PM, LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net wrote:   Does anyone have comments about going to Debian Vs Vista? Ubuntu, which is built off of Debian, is a better Beginner Linux system than Debian, in my opinion. There is also gOS and Mint Linux that are supposed to be good for

Re: [MBZ] OT: Retrospect backup problem

2009-05-22 Thread Tim C .
Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Retrospect backup problem Well, Microsoft has just about done it - forced me to join the Linux army. I can install a free OS called Debian (there's others, but I know so little about any so I'm basically throwing a dart) that I

Re: [MBZ] OT: Retrospect backup problem

2009-05-22 Thread dave walton
Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 5:06 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Retrospect backup problem I've battled problems with so-called help from MS tech support.  I usually do it all via email and still have language problems.  I usually send an email an then they repeat my problem - usually incorrectly

Re: [MBZ] OT: Retrospect backup problem

2009-05-22 Thread Loren Faeth
ALL OS10, now at 10.5 is based on BSD *nix I think that is somewhere around 8-10 years now At 08:47 PM 5/22/2009, you wrote: Another option is Apple. The $1500 24 iMac is sweet. If I recall correctly, Apple dropped their proprietary kernel and switched to a Linux base - was that when they

Re: [MBZ] OT: Retrospect backup problem

2009-05-22 Thread Douglas
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Retrospect backup problem Most of the activation calls I have made, I have talked to people who sound like native American english speakers. MS technical support however.. at least 3 layers of indians without any hope of a native english speaker. And, you never get

Re: [MBZ] OT: Retrospect backup problem

2009-05-22 Thread archer
: Friday, May 22, 2009 8:32 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Retrospect backup problem Well, Microsoft has just about done it - forced me to join the Linux army. I can install a free OS called Debian (there's others, but I know so little about any

[MBZ] OT: Retrospect backup problem

2009-05-19 Thread Archer
I set up an external HD and loaded a Retrospect backup set of this computers HD on it. When I tried to make a disaster recovery CD using Retrospects program it said I needed the WinXP product key. When I loaded the WinXP disk in order to be sure the product key worked, WinXP refused to go

Re: [MBZ] OT: Retrospect backup problem

2009-05-19 Thread Loren Faeth
Sounds like typical MS. I don't have a solution to this problem In the Retrospect when you are making the disaster recovery cd, will it take your product key? if not, then this is time consuming, but the only shot I can think of: in the install programs control panel: Remove SP3 Restart

Re: [MBZ] OT: Retrospect backup problem

2009-05-19 Thread dave walton
RockXP http://www.snapfiles.com/get/rockxp.html It works, but will probably trigger your antivirus software. Magical Jelly Bean KeyFinder http://www.magicaljellybean.com/keyfinder/ It works when Symantec prevents you from running RockXP. -Dave Walton On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Archer

Re: [MBZ] OT: Retrospect backup problem

2009-05-19 Thread Rich Thomas
A sorta related question -- I want to set up a dedicated machine in my shop to run my CNC machine, I can bodge one up using some old stuff I have around. The control software I use runs on XP. I have XP on a disk. I vaguely recall in various reinstalls that XP wants to connect to the

Re: [MBZ] OT: Retrospect backup problem

2009-05-19 Thread Archer
Thanks, Dave. I can use those to find out if the Product Key I install in the Disaster Recovery program will work with the WinXP OS loaded on the computer. Gerry From: dave walton RockXP http://www.snapfiles.com/get/rockxp.html It works, but

Re: [MBZ] OT: Retrospect backup problem

2009-05-19 Thread Archer
Didn't try it yet. Dell had sent me the wrong WinXP disc (WinXP Pro instead of WinXP Home which was loaded on the computer). After much fiddling around they finally sent me a WinXP Home CD which was missing a lot of the drivers and such that came with the machine and was sort of squirrelly

Re: [MBZ] OT: Retrospect backup problem

2009-05-19 Thread Bill R
12:54 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Retrospect backup problem RockXP http://www.snapfiles.com/get/rockxp.html It works, but will probably trigger your antivirus software. Magical Jelly Bean KeyFinder http://www.magicaljellybean.com/keyfinder/ It works when Symantec