Re: [MBZ] Second chance ebay offers: What does ebay do?

2007-09-11 Thread Robert Bigham
reduced the incidence of me receiving those messages. I'm quite sure that something has decreased it. Perhaps it is my vile temper. - Original Message - From: Hendrik To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 9/10/2007 3:59:14 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Second chance ebay offers Yeah but what are ebay

Re: [MBZ] Second chance ebay offers

2007-09-10 Thread Robert Bigham
] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: 9/9/2007 7:26:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Second chance ebay offers I should think it is a waste of time reporting these types to ebay, impossible to track and most likely originating in Nigeria. I do report some of the more

Re: [MBZ] Second chance ebay offers

2007-09-10 Thread Hendrik
Yes but the 'supposed' seller does not make mention of not meeting reserve and there is a reserve not met on an auction if that is the case. I bid 100 bucks on that phone, it sold for 230 and the spoofer says that I can pay my price. John Freer wrote: Happens all the time. Something I List

Re: [MBZ] Second chance ebay offers

2007-09-10 Thread Mitch Haley
Hendrik wrote: Yes but the 'supposed' seller does not make mention of not meeting reserve and there is a reserve not met on an auction if that is the case. I bid 100 bucks on that phone, it sold for 230 and the spoofer says that I can pay my price. Several years ago, I sold stuff on eBay

Re: [MBZ] Second chance ebay offers

2007-09-10 Thread Tom Hargrave
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 12:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Second chance ebay offers I am 100% sure they are frauds, why would the seller put out second chance offers less than a day after auction end? But you are right, the only way to make sure

Re: [MBZ] Second chance ebay offers

2007-09-10 Thread Mitch Haley
Tom Hargrave wrote: I've often listed items for sale that did not bid up high enough immediately send out second chance offers right after the items did not sell. Did you ever say to yourself Hey, that keg tap went high, I'd like to sell three more to the losing bidders? I just

Re: [MBZ] Second chance ebay offers

2007-09-10 Thread Tom Hargrave
Of Mitch Haley Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 6:46 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Second chance ebay offers Tom Hargrave wrote: I've often listed items for sale that did not bid up high enough immediately send out second chance offers right after the items did not sell

Re: [MBZ] Second chance ebay offers

2007-09-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
, September 10, 2007 12:06 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Second chance ebay offers I am 100% sure they are frauds, why would the seller put out second chance offers less than a day after auction end? But you are right, the only way to make sure is to ask the seller via ebay. A lot of sellers state

Re: [MBZ] Second chance ebay offers

2007-09-10 Thread Hendrik
I take it these where auctions with reserves? A second chance offer from an item that did not make the reserve is different to a second chance offer from an unreserved auction. My understanding is that the highest bidder in an unreserved auction is the buyer, he/she may well default, in which

Re: [MBZ] Second chance ebay offers

2007-09-10 Thread Hendrik
Perhaps ebay should have a system in place where the reserve can be lowered by the consent of the seller and the highest bidder. Sort of like giving you the ability to send the highest bidder a revised auction with a lowered reserve, if the buyer accepts he/she will have the protection of the

Re: [MBZ] Second chance ebay offers

2007-09-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Hendrik [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 8:42 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Second chance ebay offers Perhaps ebay should have a system in place

Re: [MBZ] Second chance ebay offers

2007-09-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
10, 2007 8:34 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Second chance ebay offers I take it these where auctions with reserves? A second chance offer from an item that did not make the reserve is different to a second chance offer from an unreserved auction. My understanding is that the highest bidder

Re: [MBZ] Second chance ebay offers

2007-09-10 Thread Tom Hargrave
These are always auctions with reserves. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hendrik Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 8:34 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Second chance

Re: [MBZ] Second chance ebay offers

2007-09-10 Thread Jim Cathey
Anyhow I am suspicious that some unscrupulous ebayers are using the second chance offer system to stick it to the buying public. Bidding up their item and then when they end up the winner, due to greed, send out second chance offers to try and sell the item. Shill bidding can't screw you if

Re: [MBZ] Second chance ebay offers

2007-09-10 Thread John M McIntosh
On Sep 10, 2007, at 7:47 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: There'll be another bus along in awhile if you don't get it. Bid what you think is a fair price, and forget about it. Just MHO. The ebay automatic search function is also great way to find a part without endless checking on your part. For

Re: [MBZ] Second chance ebay offers

2007-09-10 Thread LWB250
Second chance offers are nothing more than eBay's effort to get more fees from sellers. Before their second chance offers, a lot of people (myself included) would contact the highest bidders if an auction didn't meet reserve to see if the bidders were interested. Of course, this is outside of

Re: [MBZ] Second chance ebay offers

2007-09-10 Thread Curt Raymond
realized you could run this game or people got wise... I probably made $400 though... -Curt Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 13:20:35 -0700 (PDT) From: LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Second chance ebay offers To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED

[MBZ] Second chance ebay offers

2007-09-09 Thread Hendrik
I am trying to buy a mobile phone off ebay at the moment, I kinda like those Sony Ericsson W series ones but don't want to pay the sticker price. Anyway I am getting quite a few second chance offers like this one: I'm the seller of the item #170087302378 that you've recently bided through the

Re: [MBZ] Second chance ebay offers

2007-09-09 Thread Tom Hargrave
Of Hendrik Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2007 5:10 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Second chance ebay offers I am trying to buy a mobile phone off ebay at the moment, I kinda like those Sony Ericsson W series ones but don't want to pay the sticker price. Anyway I am getting quite

Re: [MBZ] Second chance ebay offers

2007-09-09 Thread Peter Frederick
Actually, they do -- if it isn't in your eBay messages, it's fake. I've gotten several things on Second Chance offers, but they were all legit (things I'd bid on and not won). Report them to eBay as spam. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see

Re: [MBZ] Second chance ebay offers

2007-09-09 Thread Robert Bigham
PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Second chance ebay offers I am trying to buy a mobile phone off ebay at the moment, I kinda like those Sony Ericsson W series ones but don't want to pay the sticker price. Anyway I am getting quite a few second chance offers like this one: I'm the seller of the item

Re: [MBZ] Second chance ebay offers

2007-09-09 Thread Robert Tara Ludwick
If you get a second chance offer, contact the original seller through ebay and find out if it's legit. Most of the time it's scammers that go behind hot auctions like vultures and hit everyone on the bidder list., if it really is from the seller, you're good to go. -Robert Hendrik

Re: [MBZ] Second chance ebay offers

2007-09-09 Thread Hendrik
I am 100% sure they are frauds, why would the seller put out second chance offers less than a day after auction end? But you are right, the only way to make sure is to ask the seller via ebay. A lot of sellers state on their auction that they don't do second chance offers. Robert Tara Ludwick

Re: [MBZ] Second chance ebay offers

2007-09-09 Thread John Freer
Happens all the time. Something I List doesn't meet the Reserve but the highest bidder was close enough. I will then make a second offer to that bidder through Ebay. Anything out of the Ebay system should be ignored. On 9/9/07, Hendrik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am 100% sure they are frauds,