Re: [MBZ] Was 722.6 ATF Temperature chart - now Teaching

2019-08-14 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Absolutely. If there was someone in the class that had experience that was relevant to the material, I did everything I could to engage them and get them to share as long as time permitted. I always told my students that it would be a learning experience for me as well, and it always was. I

Re: [MBZ] Was 722.6 ATF Temperature chart - now Teaching

2019-08-13 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I sat in a class one time with a guy who looked just like Dustin Hoffman, could be his brother. Rick is probably in his late 50s and is a Linux wizard. He was totally content to let somebody else drive the keyboard while he fed you commands. His knowledge of vi is encyclopedic. The only

Re: [MBZ] Was 722.6 ATF Temperature chart - now Teaching

2019-08-13 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Yeah, I did that once or twice.   Same silence, but the guy was compliant after that. I think every class I taught about M$ network engineering had 1 or more in it that knew things I didn't, and many knew command line or shortcuts I didn't.   I always tried to firgure out who they were and

Re: [MBZ] Was 722.6 ATF Temperature chart - now Teaching

2019-08-13 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
"Since you already know almost everything, take a break, go to the parking lot and practice falling down and bleeding, The rest of us will be out when we are done here to check on your progress and give you any help you might need developing those skills." Delivered with a cynical smile and while

Re: [MBZ] Was 722.6 ATF Temperature chart - now Teaching

2019-08-13 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Yes there are,redeeming dynamics if you let them happen. I see that even with my good obedient Catholic freshman. Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Tue, Aug 13, 2019, 8:52 PM Curt Raymond wrote: > What always amazes me is that these jokers had their employer paying > thousands of dollars to see

Re: [MBZ] Was 722.6 ATF Temperature chart - now Teaching

2019-08-13 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
What always amazes me is that these jokers had their employer paying thousands of dollars to see me talk but couldn't be bothered to pay attention. Actually the stranger ones are the self-employed that are paying for themselves but trying to run a business at the same time. I understand that

Re: [MBZ] Was 722.6 ATF Temperature chart - now Teaching

2019-08-13 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Stories from a great teacher. My audience is,a bit more,captive but i still see some of these behaviors Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Tue, Aug 13, 2019, 7:53 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: > As a technical trainer for a corporate entity you get to experience some > of the worst possible

Re: [MBZ] Was 722.6 ATF Temperature chart - now Teaching

2019-08-13 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
As a technical trainer for a corporate entity you get to experience some of the worst possible students: 1.) Someone who has been doing the job/work who thinks they know more than you and wants to point it out every chance they get; or, 2.) The employee who has been forced to attend, like it