Re: [MBZ] Hunting 124 update

2010-05-29 Thread OK Don
The car got new ball joints, new tires, and an alignment. It's a different car now! Much better. The struts are leaking, but not too bad, and are still functioning. However, it's only a matter of time until I'll have to replace them. Looking at the FSM CD, though they tell you to use a spring

Re: [MBZ] Hunting 124 update

2010-05-29 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I did struts on a 201 which is the same, I did not use a spring compressor. It was about the same as regular shocks, except easier I do believe. OK Don wrote: The car got new ball joints, new tires, and an alignment. It's a different car now! Much better. The struts are leaking, but not too

Re: [MBZ] Hunting 124 update

2010-05-29 Thread Peter Frederick
Put a jack stand under the control arm, supporting the weight of the car. Job isn't bad if the upper bolt at the steering knuckle isn't siezed. Get new dust boots and jounce bumpers, and I'd suggest new upper strut mounts at the same time, they aren't expensive and again will make a

Re: [MBZ] Hunting 124 update

2010-05-29 Thread OK Don
Great - thanks. That's how it looked to me. On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.netwrote: Put a jack stand under the control arm, supporting the weight of the car. Job isn't bad if the upper bolt at the steering knuckle isn't siezed. Get new dust boots and

Re: [MBZ] Hunting 124 update

2010-05-29 Thread OK Don
That's good news! Never thought regular shocks were much trouble, so this shouldn't be an issue at all then. Did you get it aligned afterwards? On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 12:10 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: I did struts on a 201 which is the same, I did not use a spring

Re: [MBZ] Hunting 124 update

2010-05-29 Thread Jim Cathey
Looking at the FSM CD, though they tell you to use a spring compressor, they also hint that you might be able to change them without it. *The shock absorber struts serve simultaneously as the rebound stop for the front wheels. For this reason loosen shock absorber strut suspension only when

Re: [MBZ] Hunting 124 update

2010-05-23 Thread Mitch Haley
Hendrik Fay wrote: Hendrik who collects beer bottles and cans, much to the missus annoyment when she feels like dusting them Some of my friends collect Mint Julep glasses from Churchill Downs. http://www.santafetradingpost.com/kentucky_derby_glasses.html One year, a fellow I'll call D2

Re: [MBZ] Hunting 124 update

2010-05-22 Thread Hendrik Fay
Hey I know how to operate a BBQ, as long as it is right hand drive, should post some pictures of my hybrid 5 burner. Anyway I'll get the missus to remind me of the dates of our travel itinerary. I would look them up myself but my footy team is on the telly. Goota go. Hendrik who bought a box

Re: [MBZ] Hunting 124 update

2010-05-22 Thread John Reames
Can you put up some pictures of LHD and RHD BBQs? -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On May 22, 2010, at 15:10, Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au wrote: Hey I know how to operate a BBQ, as long as it is right hand drive, should post some pictures

Re: [MBZ] Hunting 124 update

2010-05-22 Thread Rich Thomas
There is GOOD beer here in the US if you stay away from that mass-produced swill. --R Hendrik Fay wrote: Hey I know how to operate a BBQ, as long as it is right hand drive, should post some pictures of my hybrid 5 burner. Anyway I'll get the missus to remind me of the dates of our travel

Re: [MBZ] Hunting 124 update

2010-05-22 Thread OK Don
I'm sorry - you should have asked first! Hendrik who bought a box of Miller draft (we spell it draught) beer to get used to US grog -- OK Don Panic! (the national past time). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To

Re: [MBZ] Hunting 124 update

2010-05-22 Thread Hendrik Fay
We are limited in the variety of US beers, either Miller or Budweiser. Hendrik who thought that the Miller was not too bad but will give final verdict when sampling a fresh batch from the factory Rich Thomas wrote: There is GOOD beer here in the US if you stay away from that mass-produced

Re: [MBZ] Hunting 124 update

2010-05-22 Thread Dieselhead
My condolences. In WI, there is Leinenkugels and Point Special. Both are good and have lots of varieties. And quite a few microbreweries, and a lot of brands owned by the majors. We are limited in the variety of US beers, either Miller or Budweiser. Hendrik who thought that the Miller was

Re: [MBZ] Hunting 124 update

2010-05-22 Thread Mitch Haley
Dieselhead wrote: My condolences. In WI, there is Leinenkugels and Point Special. Both are good and have lots of varieties. And quite a few microbreweries, and a lot of brands owned by the majors. Like this one? http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2610/3895175131_b5f6fa18ab.jpg

Re: [MBZ] Hunting 124 update

2010-05-22 Thread Hendrik Fay
I think you may have had a few too many Verginas when you took that picture. Hendrik who collects beer bottles and cans, much to the missus annoyment when she feels like dusting them Mitch Haley wrote: Dieselhead wrote: My condolences. In WI, there is Leinenkugels and Point Special. Both

Re: [MBZ] Hunting 124 update

2010-05-17 Thread LarryT
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hunting 124 update The car must be standing on the tires in driving position for the suspension to be aligned -- the wheels move in complex ways as they go up and down, and to track true, they must be in driving position. Tires can do strange things, but won't change

Re: [MBZ] Hunting 124 update

2010-05-16 Thread Mitch Haley
Jim Cathey wrote: the steering wheel is about 5 degrees off level now (was level before I started). That's easy DIY, maybe 1/8 turn on both sides (appropriately) will keep the alignment the same yet re-center the wheel. Did the part that was changed affect one wheel's steering position? Then

Re: [MBZ] Hunting 124 update

2010-05-16 Thread Peter Frederick
, 2010 12:02 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hunting 124 update the steering wheel is about 5 degrees off level now (was level before I started). That's easy DIY, maybe 1/8 turn on both sides (appropriately) will keep the alignment the same yet re-center

Re: [MBZ] Hunting 124 update

2010-05-16 Thread OK Don
It will get aligned. I'm not sure that it was right before the work, and is most likely different now from what is was before. The tires are getting thin, and one has a non-leaking screw in the center of the tread. It'll get new tires after the alignment. The only remaining question is where it

Re: [MBZ] Hunting 124 update

2010-05-16 Thread LarryT
Don okd...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 9:21 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hunting 124 update I replaced both tie rods, the drag link, the steering shock, and the idler arm bushings today. I stood the old and the new tie rods on end on the front

Re: [MBZ] Hunting 124 update

2010-05-16 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sun, 16 May 2010 13:49:59 -0500 OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: It'll get new tires after the alignment. I have heard that the change from old to new tires can affect the alignment and that it's best to get an alignment right AFTER you get new tires. Craig

Re: [MBZ] Hunting 124 update

2010-05-16 Thread Dieselhead
-- From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 9:21 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hunting 124 update I replaced both tie rods, the drag link, the steering shock, and the idler arm bushings today. I stood the old and the new tie rods

Re: [MBZ] Hunting 124 update

2010-05-16 Thread OK Don
The nearest Dealer is 120 miles away, but a visit there would be followed by a visit to Kaleb and other friends in the area, so it wouldn't be a single purpose trip. The only good indie frame/alignment shop that I knew of closed, so it's into the phone book to try and find another one. On Sun,

Re: [MBZ] Hunting 124 update

2010-05-16 Thread OK Don
I usually do that because I neglect to get the alignment before the tires, but have never planned it that way! However, if the car is in the air for the alignment, I don't see how tires would make a difference. On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 5:25 PM, Craig McCluskey diese...@pisquared.netwrote: On

Re: [MBZ] Hunting 124 update

2010-05-16 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sun, 16 May 2010 18:03:52 -0500 OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: I have heard that the change from old to new tires can affect the alignment and that it's best to get an alignment right AFTER you get new tires. I usually do that because I neglect to get the alignment before the tires,

Re: [MBZ] Hunting 124 update

2010-05-16 Thread Mitch Haley
OK Don wrote: I usually do that because I neglect to get the alignment before the tires, but have never planned it that way! However, if the car is in the air for the alignment, I don't see how tires would make a difference. You cannot align a car unless the car's weight is on the wheels.

Re: [MBZ] Hunting 124 update

2010-05-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I know we have a chain here, Robertson Tire, that supposedly one of their stores in tulsa has the spreader bar. OK Don wrote: It will get aligned. I'm not sure that it was right before the work, and is most likely different now from what is was before. The tires are getting thin, and one has a

Re: [MBZ] Hunting 124 update

2010-05-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I would think you would get it done at the same time. They put the new tires on, then align before you leave. Craig McCluskey wrote: On Sun, 16 May 2010 13:49:59 -0500 OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: It'll get new tires after the alignment. I have heard that the change from old to

Re: [MBZ] Hunting 124 update

2010-05-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
yea, come on by for a visit. I think the aussies will be here pretty soon, you will have to come up for that. OK Don wrote: The nearest Dealer is 120 miles away, but a visit there would be followed by a visit to Kaleb and other friends in the area, so it wouldn't be a single purpose trip.

Re: [MBZ] Hunting 124 update

2010-05-16 Thread OK Don
The Aussies are coming here after they leave you --- On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 7:04 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: yea, come on by for a visit. I think the aussies will be here pretty soon, you will have to come up for that. OK Don wrote: The nearest Dealer is 120 miles

Re: [MBZ] Hunting 124 update

2010-05-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
oh ok, I see. I was not sure which way they were going. When are they supposed to be here? OK Don wrote: The Aussies are coming here after they leave you --- -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87

Re: [MBZ] Hunting 124 update

2010-05-16 Thread OK Don
They scheduled leaving Claremore June 18th. or 19th. --- so I asume they're arriving there the 16th. or 17th. On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: oh ok, I see. I was not sure which way they were going. When are they supposed to be here? OK Don

Re: [MBZ] Hunting 124 update

2010-05-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Oh OK, thats good. I was thinking it was this week for some reason. Maybe we will have to have a OkieQ or something Regina will be in a C collar so I dont think she would want to though. I guess I would have to do all the work!! OK Don wrote: They scheduled leaving Claremore June 18th. or

Re: [MBZ] Hunting 124 update

2010-05-16 Thread OK Don
Ouch - what ahppened to her? We could help (cooking and the such) should you plan it then. On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 7:15 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: Oh OK, thats good. I was thinking it was this week for some reason. Maybe we will have to have a OkieQ or something Regina

Re: [MBZ] Hunting 124 update

2010-05-16 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sun, 16 May 2010 19:19:29 -0400 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Alignment mechanics are pretty fussy about tire pressure, but it seems like the tires wouldn't matter a lot as long as the machine reads off the rim and not off the turntables the tires are sitting on. How could the tire

Re: [MBZ] hunting 124 update

2010-05-16 Thread RELNGSON
I usually do that because I neglect to get the alignment before the tires, but have never planned it that way!  However, if the car is in the air for the alignment, I don't see how tires would make a difference... Since alignments are done with the car on it's wheels, I suspect you

Re: [MBZ] Hunting 124 update

2010-05-16 Thread Peter Frederick
The car must be standing on the tires in driving position for the suspension to be aligned -- the wheels move in complex ways as they go up and down, and to track true, they must be in driving position. Tires can do strange things, but won't change the alignment, or indeed affect it at

Re: [MBZ] Hunting 124 update

2010-05-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
she is having some sort of spine surgery OK Don wrote: Ouch - what ahppened to her? We could help (cooking and the such) should you plan it then. On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 7:15 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: Oh OK, thats good. I was thinking it was this week for some reason.

Re: [MBZ] Hunting 124 update

2010-05-16 Thread John Reames
Umm how about unevenness of wear on the tires? I'd think that a feathered edge on a tire would make it want to lean out... -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On May 16, 2010, at 21:31, Craig McCluskey diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Sun, 16 May

Re: [MBZ] Hunting 124 update

2010-05-15 Thread OK Don
I replaced both tie rods, the drag link, the steering shock, and the idler arm bushings today. I stood the old and the new tie rods on end on the front of the lower section of the tool box, held a 12 extension for the 3/8 ratchet across the tops, and adjusted the new rod till the extension

Re: [MBZ] Hunting 124 update

2010-05-15 Thread Jim Cathey
the steering wheel is about 5 degrees off level now (was level before I started). That's easy DIY, maybe 1/8 turn on both sides (appropriately) will keep the alignment the same yet re-center the wheel. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used

Re: [MBZ] Hunting 124 update

2010-05-02 Thread OK Don
Got the car back from the daughter today - jacked up only the left wheel first, at the jack point, and found no loosness at all. The smallest mocement of the wheel was visible in the steering wheel. I decided to repeat the test, but jacking up the swame wheel under the lower control arm, right by

Re: [MBZ] Hunting 124 update

2010-05-02 Thread Peter Frederick
That is my prescription for loose front end on a W124. About 200,000 miles in normal driving will wear out the steering damper, which then allows the normal impacts on the wheels to beat the tie rod ends and drag link joints to death, along with the idler arm bushings. The damper wears

Re: [MBZ] Hunting 124 update

2010-05-02 Thread OK Don
GOod idea - there isn't much noise, but while I'm at it On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 9:37 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.netwrote: That is my prescription for loose front end on a W124. Take a look at the sway bar bushings while you are in there, they are likely rock hard and shrunken