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Only problem I see with ICF is the inability to change things. That is, you better be darned sure you’ve got all the openings and rough-ins where you want them, as you’re going to have a tough time changing things down the road. -D > On Apr 30, 2021, at 10:15 PM, Clay via Mercedes wrote: > >

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I want my next house to be designed and built ICF. I like the idea of the structure being capable of withstanding multitude of insults and lasting for more than a handful score years. --- clay I turned my computer upside down and shook it, but the bookmark for what I'm looking for didn't

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A neighbor is building a house with these, or similar. The structure is up with roof, working on the interior now. On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 1:11 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > With ICF, anybody's a structural mason > > >

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How does all that foam change things if there is a fire? Isn't it quite flamable and doesn't it produce a lot of toxic smoke when it burns? Allan Floyd Thursby via Mercedes writes: > yeah I did SIPs on my timber frame addition, they go up quick esp if you > have a shop to do the cutting

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We’re looking at SIPs if we go with building a place in AZ. Up front costs are higher, but the labor and finishing costs are much, much lower. And you can have a sealed (building) envelope in a day or two. -D > On Apr 30, 2021, at 3:33 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes > wrote: > > yeah I did

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yeah I did SIPs on my timber frame addition, they go up quick esp if you have a shop to do the cutting before you get onsite, then they go up fast since all the doors and windows are cut and framed. Althernatively a metal building is fast and cheap too, spray foam on the inside and finish it

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That or just go with SIPs: https://www.sips.org/about/what-are-sips -D > On Apr 30, 2021, at 2:09 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > > On 2021-04-29 21:49, Clay via Mercedes wrote: >> If >> they could source a mason, that could give them a

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On 2021-04-29 21:49, Clay via Mercedes wrote: If they could source a mason, that could give them a sturdy fortified keep. With ICF, anybody's a structural mason

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Also in the summer, mosquitos the size of pelicans, from what I remember. Dan Penoff via Mercedes writes: > True on the climate, but it’s just as cold. I’ve spent more time than I care > to recall in the Wausau area in the winter and it’s not pleasant. Not nearly > as bad as the northern

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My boy is the electrician, so that works for them. He knows some plumbing. They also have the heavy diesel mechanic (to keep the generator going) and a pair of IT workers. One of whose wife is going to be in charge of “farming”. They boys want their own range on the property, and to have

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Motley group with half of them heading to M$ jobs in Fargo. People he met in college who all bombed out end of freshman year, late bloomers. I am going to opine that it is wishful thinking for the most part, but I have been proven wrong often. Clay > On Apr 29, 2021, at 5:10 AM,

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These could be cleared with a black powder pistol. Shot gun pellets would cause trouble to units alongside. Clay > On Apr 28, 2021, at 11:15 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes > wrote: > > AKA shotgun house down south. > > -Original Message- ___

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True on the climate, but it’s just as cold. I’ve spent more time than I care to recall in the Wausau area in the winter and it’s not pleasant. Not nearly as bad as the northern plains, however. It didn’t occur to me until now that since it’s a former Amish farm there won’t be electricity in

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Wausau gets a lot less snow and wind, much better climate, and some decent topography (rolling hills).  However, the state politics are going south.  A big advantage for Wisconsin is that the Governor has a line item veto power, so he can strike out any stupid pork or other nonsense from

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Clay, If they’re not set on ND the former Amish farm I posted in the original post might be of interest. I think it was 100 acres with 60 farmable. Big Amish house and related buildings that need some work and most likely electricity run in them. Outside of Wausau, WI, which is about as

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AKA shotgun house down south. -Original Message- From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Clay via Mercedes Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2021 12:04 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Clay Subject: Re: [MBZ] New Okie Acres The chinese are swooping in and leveling homes on lots over 0.25 acre

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I suspect they will need to set up a condominium agreement. Not my trouble to take on. Grown group of men, let them figure it out, is my view. SWMBA is a helicopter mom, so will most likely make it her affair to meddle in. Foo foo drinks with paper parasols on a beach is my end goal. Keep

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Clay via Mercedes writes: > Four or five investors, as long as they remain on good terms, could pencil > out. I'd highly recommend working with an attorney to very clearly define what happens if/when any of them "want out" of the deal. Allan ___

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> When we bought in 2006 I think the smart money was suggesting 3x > income. The bank said we "could afford" 4x but I refused that idea. 3x is what I've always heard, of course the amount of other debt a person has can reduce this. If renting, 30% of monthly income is a good "upper bound." When

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The chinese are swooping in and leveling homes on lots over 0.25 acre. Then they toss up these slim townhomes that are no wider than a garage. Zoning allows for mass density. Maybe the investor got the property for a million, bulldozes and puts up seven units that sell for $1mm each. One

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SEA is allowing/mandating that there be up to three housing units permitted on lots within the city. So, you can build bigger (since they also mandated you could not build residence larger than 2k sqft) if you include a rentable suite in the main home, and then you can toss another residential

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A sad reality. #1 boy is hoping to acquire a plop of land in ND with his cadre of buds. They are thinking farmable parcel and compound for under half mil. Four or five investors, as long as they remain on good terms, could pencil out. Too hard to foresee the future to my myopic eyes on that

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Gadzooks you guys are old ;) Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 9:16 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: Yeah mine was like 1981, 13.75%, $34k loan. It was a Bawstun “triple dekka” with 2 rentals, I was making more after I bought it than before as I had no

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Yeah mine was like 1981, 13.75%, $34k loan. It was a Bawstun “triple dekka” with 2 rentals, I was making more after I bought it than before as I had no rent and the rent from the two apahtments was more than mortgage and taxes and such. Thanks Jimmuh for that --FT Sent from iPhone > On Apr

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> Just because you can doesn’t mean you should. Truth. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

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8, 2021 6:26 PM > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Cc: rickkno...@hotmail.com > Subject: Re: [MBZ] New Okie Acres > > That was for double digit interest payments though right? > > When we bought in 2006 I think the smart money was suggesting 3x income. The > bank said we

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edes@okiebenz.com > Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Cc: d...@penoff.com > Subject: Re: [MBZ] New Okie Acres > > The City of Flagstaff requires builders to earmark a certain percentage of > new construction as subsidized housing (they have a better term for it, I > don’t recall wh

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High single digits. 9-10 percent or so. We'll be back there soon, I suspect. Rick From: curtlud...@yahoo.com Sent: April 28, 2021 6:26 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: rickkno...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] New Okie Acres That was for double digit interest payments though right? When we

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.com Cc: d...@penoff.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] New Okie Acres The City of Flagstaff requires builders to earmark a certain percentage of new construction as subsidized housing (they have a better term for it, I don’t recall what it is) that can only be sold to City employees at a reduced amount.

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@okiebenz.com Cc: d...@penoff.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] New Okie Acres The City of Flagstaff requires builders to earmark a certain percentage of new construction as subsidized housing (they have a better term for it, I don’t recall what it is) that can only be sold to City employees at a reduced amount. I

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The City of Flagstaff requires builders to earmark a certain percentage of new construction as subsidized housing (they have a better term for it, I don’t recall what it is) that can only be sold to City employees at a reduced amount. I looked at a couple of the homes being built in a

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Here, there is a special fund set aside for housing developments that builds new wings on one of the many prisons located out in the desert "High Security Housing Fund"... cuts out all the middle men in the process... you know, to "save the children"... On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 1:35 PM Allan

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Mitch Haley via Mercedes writes: > Some places they demand 'affordable housing units' as part of million > dollar McMansion developments. So, on the far corner of the property, a > high density section 8 apartment building gets built, satisfying the > local government's need for a criminal

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On 2021-04-28 14:58, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: Housing prices and rents are out of sight here as well. The city's response is mainly demands for developers to build "affordable" housing. They are typically ignorant of the realities of economics. Some places they demand 'affordable

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Californians are destroying any chance an Arizonan has on getting a house here in AZ. I started paying some attention a little over two years ago when we had pretty much decided that we wouldn’t have a condo down here in Phoenix for the winter, and a condo or a house up in the mountains for the

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That and planning boards. "Build affordable housing!" "Well don't build it there. We don't allow high density in that zone." even if they will let you build there it'll get tied up in committee for 3 years, then they'll lose all the paperwork so you can start over. Of course right now you

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Housing prices and rents are out of sight here as well. The city's response is mainly demands for developers to build "affordable" housing. They are typically ignorant of the realities of economics. Allan Max Dillon via Mercedes writes: > The inflation is coming.  In your place, I'd put a

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Good. F that liberal shithole!. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 27, 2021, at 10:00 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > wrote: > > Washington gained one rep and OR also grew in population. CA lost one seat. > >> On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 9:35 PM Clay via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Left coast is

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It depends on where he is willing to live, northern Maine is still quite affordable. There are 2x 3 unit apartment buildings by my grandmother's house (now owned by my aunt and uncle) for sale, combined price of less than $200,000. -Curt On Wednesday, April 28, 2021, 8:25:14 AM EDT, Jim

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> Left coast is hemorrhaging people. I noted that the U-Haul sign in downtown Spokane was trumpeting going-west specials. That tells you something right there. The blind offer letter I just got in the mail is offering me a 6x profit on my bare land parcel, after 25+ years. (Has it really been

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The inflation is coming.  In your place, I'd put a small portion of the proceeds into an inflation hedge, such as precious metals (GLD is the ticket symbol for an ETF that tracks the price of gold).  Land is another good hedge but has more risk as external forces can play a big role. Max

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You’ll be able to buy a new G-wagen to slog through the GWN --FT Sent from iPhone > On Apr 27, 2021, at 9:19 PM, Clay via Mercedes wrote: > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change

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Washington gained one rep and OR also grew in population. CA lost one seat. On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 9:35 PM Clay via Mercedes wrote: > Left coast is hemorrhaging people. It is so bad the poor people of Uhaul > have no trailers to rent. At all. People fled the pacific coast and went > inland.

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Left coast is hemorrhaging people. It is so bad the poor people of Uhaul have no trailers to rent. At all. People fled the pacific coast and went inland. Closest trailer we could find (to move #1 boy’s things out of the house) is about 200 miles away from him. So, he would need to round

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Just signed a listing for my humble dojo. Realtor thinks seven figures, easy. Older Tudor style, so you either love classic, or you are going to knock it down and build to within inches of the lot line. Around me, the homes are predominantly post war suburb 50s/60s architecture on largish

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able to sell at this time. > Good luck with your new tenants. > > > Rick > > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Sent: April 25, 2021 11:53 AM > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Cc: ka...@striplin.net > Subject: Re: [MBZ] New Okie Acres > > W

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It's too bad you're unable to sell at this time. Good luck with your new tenants. Rick From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: April 25, 2021 11:53 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: ka...@striplin.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] New Okie Acres We have been reviewing apps

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t;>>>>> the cities in 5-10 years? Well, probably never thundering, slinking >>>>>> maybe. >>>>>> >>>>>> -Curt >>>>>> >>>>>> On Saturday, April 24, 2021, 9:31:54 PM EDT, Rick Knoble via Mer

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t >>>>> >>>>> On Saturday, April 24, 2021, 9:31:54 PM EDT, Rick Knoble via Mercedes >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Screw that. A cool million for 2600 sf? Uh, no. >>>>> >>>>> It will be interesting t

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008 bubble, or if >>>> high inflation is here to stay. Fixed income folks are about to get >>>> economically crushed. At least in the late seventies you could get a >>>> decent return on money market accounts, because interest rates were >>>> th

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were through the roof. Now, not so much. We are living in interesting times. I'm not sure if that's a blessing or a curse. Rick From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: April 24, 2021 8:10 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: d...@penoff.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] New Okie Acres

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least in the late seventies you could get a decent >> return on money market accounts, because interest rates were through the >> roof. Now, not so much. >> >> We are living in interesting times. I'm not sure if that's a blessing or a >> curse. >> >>

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] New Okie Acres Heh. If it was in Flagstaff it would be 3x more and already snapped up with cash by Kalifornians. I was just looking at a 4br 2-1/2 bath 2600 sf house in Flagstaff that listed for $850k on Monday. Multiple full price offers, it’s now under contract at $900k

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ng in interesting times. I'm not sure if that's a blessing or a > curse. > > > Rick > > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Sent: April 24, 2021 8:10 PM > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Cc: d...@penoff.com > Subject: Re: [MBZ] New Okie Acres

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> and the city they think they miss is still too high to buy into.. Or the city they think they miss is gone in one fashion or another. Kind of like missing Mayberry. The Mayberry towns of the '50s and '60s are pretty much gone. I know of one or two still around, but it's not "Anytown USA" like

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gt; Sent: April 24, 2021 8:10 PM > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Cc: d...@penoff.com > Subject: Re: [MBZ] New Okie Acres > > Heh. If it was in Flagstaff it would be 3x more and already snapped up > with cash by Kalifornians. > > I was just

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if that's a blessing or a curse. Rick From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: April 24, 2021 8:10 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: d...@penoff.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] New Okie Acres Heh. If it was in Flagstaff it would be 3x more and already snapped up with cash

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] New Okie Acres Heh. If it was in Flagstaff it would be 3x more and already snapped up with cash by Kalifornians. I was just looking at a 4br 2-1/2 bath 2600 sf house in Flagstaff that listed for $850k on Monday. Multiple full price offers, it’s now under contract at $900k

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Heh. If it was in Flagstaff it would be 3x more and already snapped up with cash by Kalifornians. I was just looking at a 4br 2-1/2 bath 2600 sf house in Flagstaff that listed for $850k on Monday. Multiple full price offers, it’s now under contract at $900k for a cash sale. Absolutely frickin’

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Or for you, too bad it's not in Arizona, by Flagstaff. Rick From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: April 24, 2021 7:56 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: d...@penoff.com Subject: [MBZ] New Okie Acres Kaleb needs to move to WI and establish an Okie Acres up there.

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Too bad it's not in Tennessee. Rick From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: April 24, 2021 7:56 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: d...@penoff.com Subject: [MBZ] New Okie Acres Kaleb needs to move to WI and establish an Okie Acres up there. Here’s a deal on an Amish

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Well Okie acres 1 is certainly well visible from satellite. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 30, 2014, at 6:32 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Wagons Ho! I'll contact the proper authorities so the satellites can be retasked to get pictures. Dan Sent from my

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Is it too late to put in a parts request? Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

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Sure, or come on down for free or cheap parts Sent from my iPhone On Sep 30, 2014, at 7:38 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Is it too late to put in a parts request? Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com

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On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 20:12:08 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Sure, or come on down for free or cheap parts I presume your mention of, I have parts ready to ship to a couple of people so please stand by, includes the parts I requested be sent to me. What about