Jim Cathey wrote:
totally OT question - how did that electronic OD work?
My guess is the usual: a bolt-on planetary gear with a solenoid
to engage/disengage a clutch on the outside. A planetary gear,
with nothing pinned down, doesn't change the gear ratio.
That's basically it, as far as my
Second best car Volvo made (the 740s are nicer).
Very robust, non-interference engines, not many serious problems.
Check for rust, they are all getting pretty old by now!
Only real nasty job I know of is replacing ball joints on some models
that have the retainer nut INSIDE the strut at the
The Volvo does indeed use an I5 VW/Audi designed Diesel engine that is
not very bulletproof due to the fact that neither VW nor Audi had the
need for an I5 with the V6 diesels Audi had in the European market.
Volvo wanted to source a diesel from VW/Audi but was set on an inline
design and needed
Ed Booher wrote:
The Volvo does indeed use an I5 VW/Audi designed Diesel engine that is
not very bulletproof due to the fact that neither VW nor Audi had the
need for an I5 with the V6 diesels Audi had in the European market.
I think you'll find it's a 2.4L I6, and VW used it in their LT
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I've heard this many times as well, but it seems to be a myth. The
lubrication system works excellent, and was re-designed for the
inline 6. These engines were used in large trucks, boats, and
military vehicles built by VW, and are still in use
I'd like to hear this too - have wondered. I know college-type kids run
around in them, so I bet they're reliable. Funny how they have a 240D
designation in a Volvo, but it's not a diesel.
Brian
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Are the Volvo 240 series a good car? I
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The Volvo 240 probably has the best overall build quality of any car
I've ever seen, and are designed to be easy to maintain. The
1975-1980 models have more durable interiors, are easier to work on,
and have less electrical problems. They
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I've owned about 7 240s, and have never had a major breakdown or been
left stranded in one. They do not have a 240D, just a 240DL which is
the low end trim model. The diesel has the entire word diesel written
out on the trunk.
Tyler
On Nov
240s are a great and durable workhorse, but I'd also recommend the 7-series
Volvos, which are a great value, and have more usable space. If I had to
drive a gasser, and wasn't hip to MBs, I'd be driving either an Audi A4
wagon or a Volvo 740 wagon.
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The Volvo 240 series are a GREAT car! The later models(86-89) had MUCH
better fuel injection than the earlier models. They are IMHO as solid and
probably the only car safer than a MBZ W123 240D. They handle very well,
hold up to abuse even better and keep you alive in a crash the best. I
I have a neighbor that bought an older Volvo several years ago. It had a
(5) cylinder VW diesel in it (?). He now has (2) more Volvos, one of which
is a new 40 series.
Robert Massmann
Wilmington, Ohio
87 190D 2.5 Turbo
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Thank you Tyler/Tom Scordato
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The Volvo 240
thaks Mike/Tom Scordato
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The Volvo 240 series are a GREAT car! The later models(86-89
thanks Casey/Tom Scordato
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240s are a great and durable workhorse, but I'd also recommend the
7
240s are a great and durable workhorse, but I'd also recommend the 7-series
Volvos, which are a great value, and have more usable space. If I had to
drive a gasser, and wasn't hip to MBs, I'd be driving either an Audi A4
wagon or a Volvo 740 wagon.
Will seCOnd the 740 reCommendation.
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Are the Volvo 240 series a good car? I think they are 4 cylinders. I seem
to recall these being one of the high mileage gassers
Friend of mine is looking around 1983-1989 vintage.
Are they easy to work on? Any stories?
Biggest problem I know of is that in the salt
Mike Canfield wrote:
The Volvo 240 series are a GREAT car! The later models(86-89) had MUCH
better fuel injection than the earlier models. They are IMHO as solid and
probably the only car safer than a MBZ W123 240D. They handle very well,
hold up to abuse even better and keep you alive in a
Anytime Tom.
Mike
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thaks Mike/Tom Scordato
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DamnThey have planned obsolescence down to the day now ay?
Technology...
Mike
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240s are a great
of the Volvo's and SAAB's. Although I would stay
away from a SAAB if you are not experienced in working with them.
Mike
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I can provide input as the the rust resistance of Swedish metal. My 84 Saab
900 came from Vermont and has spent most of its life here in Minnesota.
I am quite impressed with the lack of rust on the body, including the
floorpans throughout. The thing came with undercoating. I can see it, and
it's
I bought an 84 240 in 85. It lasted ~10 years before it rusted away.
The manual transmission had a bolt on electronic overdrive that gave
you a 5th gear when you pressed the little square button on top of the
gear shift knob. Reminded me of the James Bond ejector seat. Had to
replace the leaking
totally OT question - how did that electronic OD work?
I test drove a 1988 740 GLE wagon with a 5-speed as you describe (button on
top of gearshift for 5th) and to this day, I have no idea how it works.
I can't figure out how the lever stays in 4th but how you get another gear.
And I regret
Tyler Backman wrote:
The bodies, engines, and transmissions last
forever, but are not as comfortable or refined as a mercedes.
The bodies last forever *if* you're not in an area that uses road salt.
The Volvo 240 loves to rust. Particular trouble spots are the floor
pans, front fenders,
Tony Wirtel wrote:
On an only tangentially related note, would NOT reCOmmend a Toshiba
laptop- as of this morning we're having our third keyboard problem and
the 1 year warranty ended YEsterday. Freaking great.
I'm sorry to hear Toshiba's quality control has declined. I had a
Satellite
I believe Volvo used a VW, or was it the Audi, 6 cylinder diesel which
I have heard was not very bulletproof.
On 11/25/06, dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I bought an 84 240 in 85. It lasted ~10 years before it rusted away.
The manual transmission had a bolt on electronic overdrive that
totally OT question - how did that electronic OD work?
My guess is the usual: a bolt-on planetary gear with a solenoid
to engage/disengage a clutch on the outside. A planetary gear,
with nothing pinned down, doesn't change the gear ratio.
-- Jim
The button only engaged the 5th gear if you were in 4th. It has it's
own clutch supposedly, but always shifted a bit hard for me so I would
clutch it like any other gear - especially on ice. I recall that it
was bolted on between the transmission and the driveshaft and
functioned externally and
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