Re: [MBZ] Stella Awards

2008-01-03 Thread andrew strasfogel
I only drink free range coffee now anyways. On Jan 2, 2008 3:11 PM, LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting that you mention this. There was a very spirited conversation at a party I went to this week about how Bunn coffeemakers were the only ones that made good coffee, and that was

Re: [MBZ] Stella Awards

2008-01-03 Thread archer
Here is an attorneys defense of such cases from another list, and then a physicians explanation of the MacDonalds case: -- The fact that these cases are conceivable to people may simply be a reflection that people have been fed a nonstop

Re: [MBZ] Stella Awards

2008-01-02 Thread andrew strasfogel
Right on, BillR! My ex spouse burned herself badly after we drove away from a McDs in Rockville MD in the early 80s. I was driving when it spilled. She had first degree burns in the same area as the woman in the lawsuit, despite the fact that the coffee was several minuites old. It may be

Re: [MBZ] Stella Awards

2008-01-02 Thread Allan Streib
Yes, I am sure the discussion at McDonald's headquarters went something like this: What's the matter, Ron? Well Don, we've run flat out of ideas on how to scr*w our customers. No problem Ron, I've been working on a new idea on how we can burn them with our coffee! Wow! Sounds great, Don!

Re: [MBZ] Stella Awards

2008-01-02 Thread andrew strasfogel
Not at all what I am saying, Allan. Management knew about the problem but chose to ignore it, as fixing matters would cost a few $$ or 2) maybe they were afraid that a few customers would complain because they were used to scalding hot coffee Anyway, McD is long over this incident and more

Re: [MBZ] Stella Awards

2008-01-02 Thread John Robbins
Allan Streib wrote: Yes, I am sure the discussion at McDonald's headquarters went something like this: What's the matter, Ron? Well Don, we've run flat out of ideas on how to scr*w our customers. No problem Ron, I've been working on a new idea on how we can burn them with our

Re: [MBZ] Stella Awards

2008-01-02 Thread Mitch Haley
John Robbins wrote: probably some benefit to keeping the coffee that hot We've got the hottest, freshest brew in town!!! The paperwork with the Bunn home brewer claims that it maintains a tank of 190 degree water because it's the perfect brewing temperature. If you brew at 190 and serve it

Re: [MBZ] Stella Awards

2008-01-02 Thread Timothy Robinson
. From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2008 13:23:09 -0500 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Stella Awards John Robbins wrote: probably some benefit to keeping the coffee that hot

Re: [MBZ] Stella Awards

2008-01-02 Thread LWB250
Interesting that you mention this. There was a very spirited conversation at a party I went to this week about how Bunn coffeemakers were the only ones that made good coffee, and that was because of how hot they got the water. Dan --- Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Robbins wrote:

Re: [MBZ] Stella Awards

2008-01-02 Thread Curt Raymond
UGH DD is pretty poor. I'll get it only because sometimes I like having coffee in the car and refuse to go to McDs for anything even though their coffee is pretty good, which I found out by accident. You want good coffee you get Tim Hortons... Or barring that you go to NYC and get it from a

Re: [MBZ] Stella Awards

2008-01-02 Thread Curt Raymond
Oh and if you put coffee between your legs and it burns you you get what you get. Coffee is supposed to be hot, if it was cold you'd complain. A cup thats between your legs is full of stuff thats going to get on you. The first thing to do is to admit that you do stupid stuff, then look at your

Re: [MBZ] Stella Awards

2008-01-02 Thread Bill
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Stella Awards UGH DD is pretty poor. I'll get it only because sometimes I like having coffee in the car and refuse to go to McDs for anything even though their coffee is pretty good, which I found out by accident. You want good coffee you get Tim Hortons... Or barring that you

Re: [MBZ] Stella Awards

2008-01-02 Thread Bill
Raymond Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 5:24 PM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Stella Awards Oh and if you put coffee between your legs and it burns you you get what you get. Coffee is supposed to be hot, if it was cold you'd complain. A cup thats between your legs is full of stuff thats going

Re: [MBZ] Stella Awards

2008-01-02 Thread Allan Streib
Coffee in a covered styrofoam cup will stay hot for a LONG time. Much longer than coffee in an uncovered ceramic mug or even most automobile-style travel mugs. Adjust your expectations accordingly. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've never spilled hot coffee on

Re: [MBZ] Stella Awards

2008-01-02 Thread LWB250
was spicier. How much leeway do they give the local chef? BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 5:20 PM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Stella Awards UGH DD is pretty poor. I'll get

Re: [MBZ] Stella Awards

2008-01-02 Thread Gary Hurst
if it is hot, you complain and get rich. if it is cold, you complain and drink crappy coffee. can you imagine a world in which they will be serving coffee at 140 degrees? or better yet, just ban to go coffee sales as too dangerous. have i ever made mention of how much i hate the world i live

Re: [MBZ] Stella Awards

2008-01-02 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Jan 2, 2008 3:00 PM, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Coffee in a covered styrofoam cup will stay hot for a LONG time. Leaching carcinogens into the coffee all the while! How anyone can stand to drink from a hot Styrofoam cup is beyond me. I can taste the chemicals in every sip.

Re: [MBZ] Stella Awards

2008-01-02 Thread Curt Raymond
track a sympathy buying pattern around the time of the lawsuit... -Curt Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 17:54:50 -0500 From: Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Stella Awards To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Re: [MBZ] Stella Awards

2008-01-02 Thread Curt Raymond
believe the glass of the press has any better insulating properties than the ceramic of my mug but the press is covered. -Curt Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2008 18:00:43 -0500 From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Stella Awards To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID

Re: [MBZ] Stella Awards

2008-01-02 Thread Rich Thomas
Wow,. personal responsibility -- that'll never fly. We got a pretty boy trial lawyer who made millions suing big drug companies (and no doubt he would have been all over McD's too if he had got there quick enough), thus driving up health care costs, running for president telling us health

Re: [MBZ] Stella Awards

2008-01-02 Thread archer
- Original Message - From: Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unlike the claims that come out in a trial [absolutely ridiculous, from what I have heard from friends], I do not believe that the intention was to injure anyone. It would be plain silly to suggest malice as a reason. Having had

Re: [MBZ] Stella Awards

2007-12-31 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Man that kind of stuff makes me mad. While Im sure crazy stuff like this goes on, these are false http://www.snopes.com/legal/lawsuits.asp archer wrote: It's time again for the annual Stella Awards! For those unfamiliar with these awards, they are named after 81-year-old Stella Liebeck who

Re: [MBZ] Stella Awards

2007-12-31 Thread Bill
I have always looked at the McDonald's hot coffee suit that way also, until I ran into someone who actually read the particulars of the case. The coffee, which McDonalds stated was too hot to be safe, burned through her skin and caused multiple surgeries and some permanent damage. Unsafe for

Re: [MBZ] Stella Awards

2007-12-31 Thread Chuck Landenberger
Kaleb, Thanks for doing the research.. Happy New Year to your new family. Chuck Phoenix AZ On Dec 31, 2007, at 11:37 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Man that kind of stuff makes me mad. While Im sure crazy stuff like this goes on, these are false

Re: [MBZ] Stella Awards

2007-12-31 Thread LWB250
If that makes you mad, you should hear some of the stories I would hear when working with the legal dept. at Kohler. While our division had some interesting litigation from time to time that we had to work on, the plumbing division had some real doozies. One of my favorites was the 600-700 pound

Re: [MBZ] Stella Awards

2007-12-31 Thread John M McIntosh
Ah, well I was looking at the Grohe UK catalog which has all sorts of nice things as compared to usa catalog and *was* wondering why the wall hung toilet assemblies looked more like a structure you'd find on front of a fork lift. On Dec 31, 2007, at 3:00 PM, LWB250 wrote: /// One of my

Re: [MBZ] Stella Awards

2007-12-31 Thread LWB250
I saw a demo in the development lab of the redesigned toilet, and to show how strong they were there were guys jumping up and down on one. The story I really enjoyed was about the time plumbers were pressure testing in an addition to an existing building, and while doing so, guillotined a guy's

Re: [MBZ] Stella Awards

2007-12-31 Thread Rich Thomas
Another college story -- in a rocket engineering class the prof told of the time when some wiseass (supposedly anonymous, but he knew lots of the details) hooked up a 2000 psi water line to the rocket lab toilet (one of those direct injection kind) at a school that sounded like the one he