Re: [MBZ] W124 Lower Control Arms and Ball joints - cost comparison

2014-07-24 Thread Mike Esh via Mercedes
I just ordered new parts for my 1985 300D from Gary. He is very helpful in making sure I get the right part and the right quality of the part. I just recieved new Lemforder Tie Rod Assemblies, a drag link and a Bilstien steering shock. I communicate with him and place my orders via email.

Re: [MBZ] W124 Lower Control Arms and Ball joints - cost comparison

2014-07-24 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
That's great, Mike! I was chiding Larry because I know all too well that people will often ask trusted resources like Gary for information and then go off and find the items they're looking for elsewhere. As a former owner and employee of a service and parts business, I was often quite taken

Re: [MBZ] W124 Lower Control Arms and Ball joints - cost comparison

2014-07-24 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
Amen, Dan. ATTABOY. Wilton - Original Message - From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 8:54 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 Lower Control Arms and Ball joints - cost comparison That's great, Mike! I

Re: [MBZ] W124 Lower Control Arms and Ball joints - cost comparison

2014-07-24 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Well said Dan, right on. On Jul 24, 2014 8:55 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: That's great, Mike! I was chiding Larry because I know all too well that people will often ask trusted resources like Gary for information and then go off and find the items they're

Re: [MBZ] W124 Lower Control Arms and Ball joints - cost comparison

2014-07-24 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
He also sells Bilsteins --R On 7/24/14 8:54 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: That's great, Mike! I was chiding Larry because I know all too well that people will often ask trusted resources like Gary for information and then go off and find the items they're looking for elsewhere. As a

Re: [MBZ] W124 Lower Control Arms and Ball joints - cost comparison

2014-07-24 Thread LarryT via Mercedes
while selling it would certainly be the easier path, when I consider the rest of the stuff I've done recently and the overall condition of the car makes me think this is the right way forward.A recent oil analysis shows the engine to be perfect so keeping it is a good direction to move

Re: [MBZ] W124 Lower Control Arms and Ball joints - cost comparison

2014-07-24 Thread LarryT via Mercedes
That's the result of a double check - I stopped back by the shop yesterday to confirm I had the numbers right. It's a great little shop BTW -- they did a 4 wheel alignment on my 911 for ~$65 when other shops get twice that or more. Larry On 7/23/2014 1:25 PM, Meade Dillon wrote: Double

Re: [MBZ] W124 Lower Control Arms and Ball joints - cost comparison

2014-07-24 Thread LarryT via Mercedes
I thought the whole LCAs should be easier also -- that's why i checked it twice.They said popping the BJs and bushings out was never as easy as they hoped. I dunno -- somewhere around here i have shop labor rates -- I'll see what it says Larry On 7/23/2014 10:04 PM, Peter

Re: [MBZ] W124 Lower Control Arms and Ball joints - cost comparison

2014-07-24 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
OK, I guess one hour would be a fair time, if you had all the proper special MB tools and presses and access to whatever saw or torch or hydraulic press you might need, and all were set-up and ready to go, just carry the LCA and parts over and go to town. Sounds like a great shop, letting you

Re: [MBZ] W124 Lower Control Arms and Ball joints - cost comparison

2014-07-24 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
Yes, if it all goes well, no problem to do it quickly. BUT when working with old parts that have been under there for a while and have suffered the abuse that comes with the job, they can sometimes be difficult to take apart. I suppose the shops use big impact guns and heat etc but I don't have

Re: [MBZ] W124 Lower Control Arms and Ball joints - cost comparison

2014-07-24 Thread LarryT via Mercedes
I've broken Break Bars doing similar jobs! it's a really sickening feeling when something pops and you see the breaker bar is missing it's end! BTW, Ford always likes to advertise how strong the I Beam front suspension is on their F Series trucks! Sounds like they are put together to stay

Re: [MBZ] W124 Lower Control Arms and Ball joints - cost comparison

2014-07-24 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
Yes, it is nice to not have the piece of broken breaker bar sticking out of a hole in your arm etc. I think the I Beam suspension is a thing of the past. My father had a '68 that had the Twin I Beam front end. Never had any issues with it thankfully as I think the only way to adjust if the

Re: [MBZ] W124 Lower Control Arms and Ball joints - cost comparison

2014-07-24 Thread LarryT via Mercedes
I'm a big fan of torsion bar suspensions -- ultimate simplicity and they basically never wear out - at least not the bar itself. IMO the big watershed even with F150s was in 87 when they finally went to fuel injection. Take care - Larry On 7/24/2014 5:37 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: Yes, it is

Re: [MBZ] W124 Lower Control Arms and Ball joints - cost comparison

2014-07-23 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
I would wonder the opposite if 112 extra was cheap to have it all done at once since it seems you plan to keep the car. My 2 cents. On Jul 23, 2014 12:12 PM, LarryT via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: FYI - In case anyone is interested. I gave up any thought of doing it myself...

Re: [MBZ] W124 Lower Control Arms and Ball joints - cost comparison

2014-07-23 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Double check your labor quotes, doesn't make sense that there is only one extra hour required (assuming $60 per hour) to remove/install four bushings and two ball joints. Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] W124 Lower Control Arms and Ball joints - cost comparison

2014-07-23 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Ordering them from our Emperor of Parts, I assume? After all, he has been of assistance with identifying proper vendors and sorting out part numbers, right? It's important that you pay it back, so to speak. At least it's the right thing to do, of course. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 23,

Re: [MBZ] W124 Lower Control Arms and Ball joints - cost comparison

2014-07-23 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
Lower control arms come with new bushings and new ball joints, so it's just a swap complete. Have to do a front end alignment in either case if you replace the bushings, ball joints usually not. Labor is about the same, it only take a couple minutes to pop the bushings and ball joints in