Re: [MBZ] An oil question

2014-08-23 Thread clay via Mercedes
My newest star car is 2002, and I recall there being a big push in the early 00 
to get folks to only put M1 in the engine and trans.  Some whooey about sealed 
for life, but that it was good for the old cars too.  I found that it really is 
good for the old cars, as, even the manual four speed loved the stuff and 
shifted tighter after a few k on the clock.  The R107 has gotten much better 
using M1, with crisp, yet smooth gear changes instead of the delay and clunk 
from just three k on the juice.

The 300SE has a magic transmission with it, from the burnt out slush box it 
came with.   Swapped in a used with 109k in place of the dead 203k it came 
with.  M1 has it shifting almost like a new car.  

clay

On Aug 23, 2014, at 7:56 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:

> clay via Mercedes wrote:
>> I used it with no issue in the e300d, or any other Benz from 1972-2002
> 
> I thought the electronic five speeds from about 1997-up required the special 
> juice?
> Two years ago, when I bought the 1999 wagon, you could still get a case of 
> Shell 134 from Ryder Fleet for a lot less than M1 Dexron. Ryder seems to have 
> retired its Sprinters and quit stocking the stuff.
> 
> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] An oil question

2014-08-23 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

clay via Mercedes wrote:

I used it with no issue in the e300d, or any other Benz from 1972-2002


I thought the electronic five speeds from about 1997-up required the special 
juice?
Two years ago, when I bought the 1999 wagon, you could still get a case of Shell 
134 from Ryder Fleet for a lot less than M1 Dexron. Ryder seems to have retired 
its Sprinters and quit stocking the stuff.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] 1984 500SEL Surrender

2014-08-23 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Ok the bx is the small sub compact, too small for me, I need the larger b 
series.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 23, 2014, at 9:37 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
>  wrote:
> 
> Is that the small sub compact or the compact? Did you buy one of those 
> package deals with the tractor, trailer, ect? How much was your cost? How 
> much land do you have? I will be on 20 acres. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 23, 2014, at 6:25 PM, Jaime Kopchinski  wrote:
>> 
>> I bought a BX2370 new this spring.  Its really outstanding.  Simple three 
>> cylinder diesel with mechanical injection pump.  I have 25 hours on it now 
>> and have done a good amount of work with it.  The heavy stuff was moving 
>> dirt and rock around the yard, and cleaning up 2000ft of gravel driveway.  
>> 
>> My only complaint is that its a real PITA to get the deck and loader on and 
>> off.  With some practice, it gets easier.  And with a big pry bar.
>> 
>> I bought a 60" land pride grader scraper too.  It does a great job on the 
>> driveway, and takes an impressive amount of power to pull it.  I have to 
>> step on the diff lock occasionally when it gets loaded up and the road is 
>> soft.
>> 
>> Jaime
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 9:27 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> I'm fixing to buy a diesel tractor for the ranch. Probably new. Probably 
>>> Kubota.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Aug 21, 2014, at 7:50 PM, Scott Ritchey viaMercedes 
  wrote:
 
 A surprisingly common problem in the utility tractor community is bad
 battery cables.  In these cases the conductor fails (corrosion) under the
 insulation where it's not visible such that the cable (and the end
 terminals) still looks fine.
 
 Mercedes content:  These are Diesel tractors.
 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> WILTON via Mercedes
> Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 8:14 PM
> To: Dan Penoff; Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1984 500SEL Surrender
> 
> Speaking of starting reminds me:  Coupla weeks ago, I had just made one
> pass at curb across front yard with JD riding mower when painting crew
> working on outside of the house pulled up to curb after lunch.  I cut the
> mower off to talk to the painters.  Couple minutes later, when I tried to
 re-
> start the mower, it only groaned once then nothing.  Painters pushed mower
> and me to within jumper cable distance of the battery in the '87 300D.
> Mower still only groaned with jumper cables attached.  SWMBO pushed
> mower and me to the mower's parking place.
> 
> Rain, heat, humidity, skeeters, procrastination and most anything kept me
> from tackling the mower problem until this morning.  Meanwhile, #1 son
> came and cut grass once and I thought occasionally about how the family's
> '37 Ford suddenly would not start one weekend in 1948 when I was 14 and
> had taken the car on extended spins around and around the house many
> times while my two brothers, who were the family drivers and "in charge"
 of
> the car were on a weekend trip with a third brother.  While I worried that
 my
> brothers would accuse me of "breaking" the car, early Sunday afternoon a
> cousin about the age of one of my "driver" brothers stopped by for a
 visit.
> 
> The cousin asked me why the car was sitting in a strange position in the
 yard.
> I told 'im I'd been driving it, and it would not start on Saturday
 afternoon
> after I had taken a lunch break from my self-taught driving lessons.  He
 got a
> wrench, opened the hood ad asked me to "Try it now" while he tightened the
> battery cables a bit.  That's when I learned about loose and/or corroded
> battery cables.
> 
> Shonuff, 'removed the mower battery cables, cleaned the cable ends and the
> battery terminals, reattached the cables and mower starts right up.
> 
> Wilton
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
> To: "Mercedes List" 
> Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 7:01 PM
> Subject: [MBZ] 1984 500SEL Surrender
> 
> 
>> I'm thinking this guy is going to be back to me in a couple of weeks,
>> ready to take $500 for this car
>> 
>> I saw that he just updated the CL listing for it instead of creating a
 new
>> listing.  Not a bright idea, as it will stay way, way down the list and
>> not be current.  And he's asking $950, not $700 like he was earlier.
>> 
>> http://tampa.craigslist.org/hdo/cto/4587368673.html
>> 
>> "Car will start."
>> 
>> Wow.  That gives me a lot of confidence.  I'll give him until after the
>> Labor Day weekend.
>> 
>> Dan
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Re: [MBZ] 1984 500SEL Surrender

2014-08-23 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Is that the small sub compact or the compact? Did you buy one of those package 
deals with the tractor, trailer, ect? How much was your cost? How much land do 
you have? I will be on 20 acres. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 23, 2014, at 6:25 PM, Jaime Kopchinski  wrote:
> 
> I bought a BX2370 new this spring.  Its really outstanding.  Simple three 
> cylinder diesel with mechanical injection pump.  I have 25 hours on it now 
> and have done a good amount of work with it.  The heavy stuff was moving dirt 
> and rock around the yard, and cleaning up 2000ft of gravel driveway.  
> 
> My only complaint is that its a real PITA to get the deck and loader on and 
> off.  With some practice, it gets easier.  And with a big pry bar.
> 
> I bought a 60" land pride grader scraper too.  It does a great job on the 
> driveway, and takes an impressive amount of power to pull it.  I have to step 
> on the diff lock occasionally when it gets loaded up and the road is soft.
> 
> Jaime
> 
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 9:27 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> I'm fixing to buy a diesel tractor for the ranch. Probably new. Probably 
>> Kubota.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> > On Aug 21, 2014, at 7:50 PM, Scott Ritchey viaMercedes 
>> >  wrote:
>> >
>> > A surprisingly common problem in the utility tractor community is bad
>> > battery cables.  In these cases the conductor fails (corrosion) under the
>> > insulation where it's not visible such that the cable (and the end
>> > terminals) still looks fine.
>> >
>> > Mercedes content:  These are Diesel tractors.
>> >
>> >> -Original Message-
>> >> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
>> >> WILTON via Mercedes
>> >> Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 8:14 PM
>> >> To: Dan Penoff; Mercedes Discussion List
>> >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1984 500SEL Surrender
>> >>
>> >> Speaking of starting reminds me:  Coupla weeks ago, I had just made one
>> >> pass at curb across front yard with JD riding mower when painting crew
>> >> working on outside of the house pulled up to curb after lunch.  I cut the
>> >> mower off to talk to the painters.  Couple minutes later, when I tried to
>> > re-
>> >> start the mower, it only groaned once then nothing.  Painters pushed mower
>> >> and me to within jumper cable distance of the battery in the '87 300D.
>> >> Mower still only groaned with jumper cables attached.  SWMBO pushed
>> >> mower and me to the mower's parking place.
>> >>
>> >> Rain, heat, humidity, skeeters, procrastination and most anything kept me
>> >> from tackling the mower problem until this morning.  Meanwhile, #1 son
>> >> came and cut grass once and I thought occasionally about how the family's
>> >> '37 Ford suddenly would not start one weekend in 1948 when I was 14 and
>> >> had taken the car on extended spins around and around the house many
>> >> times while my two brothers, who were the family drivers and "in charge"
>> > of
>> >> the car were on a weekend trip with a third brother.  While I worried that
>> > my
>> >> brothers would accuse me of "breaking" the car, early Sunday afternoon a
>> >> cousin about the age of one of my "driver" brothers stopped by for a
>> > visit.
>> >>
>> >> The cousin asked me why the car was sitting in a strange position in the
>> > yard.
>> >> I told 'im I'd been driving it, and it would not start on Saturday
>> > afternoon
>> >> after I had taken a lunch break from my self-taught driving lessons.  He
>> > got a
>> >> wrench, opened the hood ad asked me to "Try it now" while he tightened the
>> >> battery cables a bit.  That's when I learned about loose and/or corroded
>> >> battery cables.
>> >>
>> >> Shonuff, 'removed the mower battery cables, cleaned the cable ends and the
>> >> battery terminals, reattached the cables and mower starts right up.
>> >>
>> >> Wilton
>> >>
>> >> - Original Message -
>> >> From: "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
>> >> To: "Mercedes List" 
>> >> Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 7:01 PM
>> >> Subject: [MBZ] 1984 500SEL Surrender
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> I'm thinking this guy is going to be back to me in a couple of weeks,
>> >>> ready to take $500 for this car
>> >>>
>> >>> I saw that he just updated the CL listing for it instead of creating a
>> > new
>> >>> listing.  Not a bright idea, as it will stay way, way down the list and
>> >>> not be current.  And he's asking $950, not $700 like he was earlier.
>> >>>
>> >>> http://tampa.craigslist.org/hdo/cto/4587368673.html
>> >>>
>> >>> "Car will start."
>> >>>
>> >>> Wow.  That gives me a lot of confidence.  I'll give him until after the
>> >>> Labor Day weekend.
>> >>>
>> >>> Dan
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Re: [MBZ] An oil question

2014-08-23 Thread clay via Mercedes
I used it with no issue in the e300d, or any other Benz from 1972-2002

clay

On Aug 22, 2014, at 10:20 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:

> Is Mobil1 ATF suitable for the transmission in a 1995 E320?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> Craig
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>oil pressure gauge)
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> Big Red Van)
> Past:   
>'94 E420Oskar  127 kmi
>'86 190E/2.3
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Re: [MBZ] OT An eventful morning

2014-08-23 Thread clay via Mercedes
That did happen on the 300SE.  Today #1 boy drags me out to the car to show me 
the coolant mess near the overflow tank.  Having not seen it before, I thought 
it was his head gasket.  The spew was not at all as dramatic as he portrayed.   
Seemed to come from the overflow hose from the rad.  Closer look shows a micro 
crack.  Hot fluid was escaping, but not horrid.  No shoe goo, so I drug out the 
spare tank and had him clean it out and install.

All good now

clay



On Aug 21, 2014, at 12:51 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

> W140s have a tee fitting on the firewall that likes to crack or break at 
> inopportune times and promptly yak the contents of the cooling system on the 
> ground. If you're moving at highway speeds this happens in a matter of 
> seconds.
> 
> Dan
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Aug 21, 2014, at 2:35 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I go pick up my wife at the airport this morning, as I am leaving the 
>> waiting parking area the Suburban starts hesitating and chugging.  The Low 
>> Coolant light had come on so while waiting I put in about 1/2 gal of 
>> coolant.  (THis has been an ongoing occasional issue, no clear source of 
>> leaking, figuring at 200k miles the head gasket might be going bad.)  Temp 
>> not excessive.  Get to pick her up and it dies.  I get it going again, we 
>> get about a half mile down the road, dead no go.  I am poking around trying 
>> to figure out the problem, I see one plastic press-on heater hose fitting 
>> broken at the firewall.  That'll do it.  So then I am fooling with that and 
>> the other one next to it snaps off too.  Yay.  Looks like there is a valve 
>> that controls coolant flow, down at the engine, but started it and it ran a 
>> few seconds, coolant puking out the hose so no way to drive it even if it 
>> started and ran.
>> 
>> So fortunately she has AAA so we call for a tow.  Flatbed shows up in like 
>> 45min. brings everything home.  I am looking up this problem on the 
>> intertubes, and see it is a "common problem."  That's comforting, at least 
>> the parts are cheap enough.  Was planning to do the 200k service and change 
>> all hoses and belts and fluids and such when it cooled down a bit, looks 
>> like at least that part will be done sooner.  I am hoping that some other 
>> problem of a more significant nature did not manifest due to low coolant.  
>> I'll probably just bypass the heater for now until I can get parts, see if 
>> the thing will start and run after it cools down more.  Plus it is in the 
>> 90s today, so that will take awhile.
>> 
>> --R
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Re: [MBZ] OT Tractor was 1984 500SEL Surrender

2014-08-23 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
Thanks Scott...

Level surface is big, and something I don't have where I store my
attachments!  I take off the loader for mowing.  I learned (the hard way)
that its really easy to destroy things like fence posts when you're
maneuvering around in tight spaces!  My bucket comes off the loader frame
too... maybe I should go that route occasionally.  I only remove it once to
test fit the snow plow.

The guys at Land Pride are great.  Before I bought everything I gave them a
call to ask about what size attachment would be best for my tractor.  I was
really impressed by the knowledge of the guy I ended up talking to.  We
were on the phone for half an hour.  Definitely a company that knows its
business, its products, and its customers.

Jaime






On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 8:18 PM, Scott Ritchey  wrote:

> Many owners never (almost) remove the loader.  With larger tractors, humans
> aren't strong enough to brute-force them back into position.  The "trick"
> is
> to park on a very flat (preferably level) surface before removing the
> loader.  My loader uses the "skid-steer quick disconnect" interface to the
> bucket; I can remove and install the bucket with ease so I've never had to
> remove the actual loader.  I have a DK45S but on several occasions while
> working in the woods I wished for a smaller, more maneuverable tractor.
> Those 20-30 hp models tend to be real workhorses.  Land Pride has a great
> reputation.  I have found that many times the exact same attachment is
> painted different colors and marketed under several brand names. For
> example,  my Deere box blade was made by Woods and my Phoenix finish mower
> was made by Sicma (and also marketed under at least five other brands).
> You
> may want to look at BXpanded.com for some interesting implements.  Good
> luck
> with your BX.
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
> > Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 7:26 PM
> >
> > I bought a BX2370 new this spring.  Its really outstanding.  Simple three
> > cylinder diesel with mechanical injection pump.  I have 25 hours on it
> now
> > and have done a good amount of work with it.  The heavy stuff was moving
> > dirt and rock around the yard, and cleaning up 2000ft of gravel driveway.
> >
> > My only complaint is that its a real PITA to get the deck and loader on
> and
> > off.  With some practice, it gets easier.  And with a big pry bar.
> >
> > I bought a 60" land pride grader scraper too.  It does a great job on the
> > driveway, and takes an impressive amount of power to pull it.  I have to
> step
> > on the diff lock occasionally when it gets loaded up and the road is
> soft.
> >
> > Jaime
> >
>
>


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Re: [MBZ] OT Tractor was 1984 500SEL Surrender

2014-08-23 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
Many owners never (almost) remove the loader.  With larger tractors, humans
aren't strong enough to brute-force them back into position.  The "trick" is
to park on a very flat (preferably level) surface before removing the
loader.  My loader uses the "skid-steer quick disconnect" interface to the
bucket; I can remove and install the bucket with ease so I've never had to
remove the actual loader.  I have a DK45S but on several occasions while
working in the woods I wished for a smaller, more maneuverable tractor.
Those 20-30 hp models tend to be real workhorses.  Land Pride has a great
reputation.  I have found that many times the exact same attachment is
painted different colors and marketed under several brand names. For
example,  my Deere box blade was made by Woods and my Phoenix finish mower
was made by Sicma (and also marketed under at least five other brands).  You
may want to look at BXpanded.com for some interesting implements.  Good luck
with your BX.

> -Original Message-
> From: Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
> Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 7:26 PM
> 
> I bought a BX2370 new this spring.  Its really outstanding.  Simple three
> cylinder diesel with mechanical injection pump.  I have 25 hours on it now
> and have done a good amount of work with it.  The heavy stuff was moving
> dirt and rock around the yard, and cleaning up 2000ft of gravel driveway.
> 
> My only complaint is that its a real PITA to get the deck and loader on
and
> off.  With some practice, it gets easier.  And with a big pry bar.
> 
> I bought a 60" land pride grader scraper too.  It does a great job on the
> driveway, and takes an impressive amount of power to pull it.  I have to
step
> on the diff lock occasionally when it gets loaded up and the road is soft.
> 
> Jaime
> 


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Re: [MBZ] 1984 500SEL Surrender

2014-08-23 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Well, I find it odd that you're constantly promoting Lakeland but after all 
this time you're still not living there, for that matter, you're not even 
living close to it.

Just confusing with the mixed messages.

And for what it's worth, I made the 1:30 race at Derby Lane today.  Won $80.  
Not bad for 45 minutes at the track


On Aug 23, 2014, at 7:45 PM, Gary Hurst  wrote:

> Patience, poos, patience
> 
> On Aug 23, 2014 11:35 AM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes"  
> wrote:
> If it's so great, why aren't you living there?
> 
> Poos
> 

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Re: [MBZ] 1984 500SEL Surrender

2014-08-23 Thread Gary Hurst via Mercedes
Patience, poos, patience
On Aug 23, 2014 11:35 AM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> If it's so great, why aren't you living there?
>
> Poos
>
> > On Aug 23, 2014, at 10:34 AM, Gary Hurst  wrote:
> >
> > it's only much of it where there are meth labs.  lakeland is an up and
> coming small city with a great downtown that will build a huge high tech
> corridor along I4.  it IS the future
> >
> >
> >> On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 5:43 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> Uh, right.
> >>
> >> I move to Lakeland for an hour commute one way and get meth lab and
> grow house neighbors.
> >>
> >> No thanks.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPad
> >>
> >> > On Aug 21, 2014, at 7:13 PM, Gary Hurst 
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > you sh ould move to lakeland as there is plenty of room
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 7:09 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> >> I don't really need it at this point, but if I could get it for $500
> I would jump on it.  The car has some potential for a decent driver but not
> a big money flip.  After I got the tank coated and the rest of the car
> cleaned up I could probably get $1500 for it around here.
> >> >>
> >> >> Any more than $500 and it's not worth the effort.  It will cost me
> $50 in gas just to tow it home.
> >> >>
> >> >> And, I have a car that I'm getting after Labor Day that's going to
> be occupying my time for a little while anyway.  Not enugh room in the
> driveway
> >> >>
> >> >> Dan
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Aug 21, 2014, at 7:05 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin 
> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > Geez poos just buy it already!
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Sent from my iPhone
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> On Aug 21, 2014, at 6:01 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I'm thinking this guy is going to be back to me in a couple of
> weeks, ready to take $500 for this car
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I saw that he just updated the CL listing for it instead of
> creating a new listing.  Not a bright idea, as it will stay way, way down
> the list and not be current.  And he's asking $950, not $700 like he was
> earlier.
> >> >> >>
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> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "Car will start."
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Wow.  That gives me a lot of confidence.  I'll give him until
> after the Labor Day weekend.
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Re: [MBZ] 1984 500SEL Surrender

2014-08-23 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
I bought a BX2370 new this spring.  Its really outstanding.  Simple three
cylinder diesel with mechanical injection pump.  I have 25 hours on it now
and have done a good amount of work with it.  The heavy stuff was moving
dirt and rock around the yard, and cleaning up 2000ft of gravel driveway.

My only complaint is that its a real PITA to get the deck and loader on and
off.  With some practice, it gets easier.  And with a big pry bar.

I bought a 60" land pride grader scraper too.  It does a great job on the
driveway, and takes an impressive amount of power to pull it.  I have to
step on the diff lock occasionally when it gets loaded up and the road is
soft.

Jaime



On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 9:27 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
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> I'm fixing to buy a diesel tractor for the ranch. Probably new. Probably
> Kubota.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Aug 21, 2014, at 7:50 PM, Scott Ritchey viaMercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > A surprisingly common problem in the utility tractor community is bad
> > battery cables.  In these cases the conductor fails (corrosion) under the
> > insulation where it's not visible such that the cable (and the end
> > terminals) still looks fine.
> >
> > Mercedes content:  These are Diesel tractors.
> >
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> >> WILTON via Mercedes
> >> Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 8:14 PM
> >> To: Dan Penoff; Mercedes Discussion List
> >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1984 500SEL Surrender
> >>
> >> Speaking of starting reminds me:  Coupla weeks ago, I had just made one
> >> pass at curb across front yard with JD riding mower when painting crew
> >> working on outside of the house pulled up to curb after lunch.  I cut
> the
> >> mower off to talk to the painters.  Couple minutes later, when I tried
> to
> > re-
> >> start the mower, it only groaned once then nothing.  Painters pushed
> mower
> >> and me to within jumper cable distance of the battery in the '87 300D.
> >> Mower still only groaned with jumper cables attached.  SWMBO pushed
> >> mower and me to the mower's parking place.
> >>
> >> Rain, heat, humidity, skeeters, procrastination and most anything kept
> me
> >> from tackling the mower problem until this morning.  Meanwhile, #1 son
> >> came and cut grass once and I thought occasionally about how the
> family's
> >> '37 Ford suddenly would not start one weekend in 1948 when I was 14 and
> >> had taken the car on extended spins around and around the house many
> >> times while my two brothers, who were the family drivers and "in charge"
> > of
> >> the car were on a weekend trip with a third brother.  While I worried
> that
> > my
> >> brothers would accuse me of "breaking" the car, early Sunday afternoon a
> >> cousin about the age of one of my "driver" brothers stopped by for a
> > visit.
> >>
> >> The cousin asked me why the car was sitting in a strange position in the
> > yard.
> >> I told 'im I'd been driving it, and it would not start on Saturday
> > afternoon
> >> after I had taken a lunch break from my self-taught driving lessons.  He
> > got a
> >> wrench, opened the hood ad asked me to "Try it now" while he tightened
> the
> >> battery cables a bit.  That's when I learned about loose and/or corroded
> >> battery cables.
> >>
> >> Shonuff, 'removed the mower battery cables, cleaned the cable ends and
> the
> >> battery terminals, reattached the cables and mower starts right up.
> >>
> >> Wilton
> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
> >> To: "Mercedes List" 
> >> Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 7:01 PM
> >> Subject: [MBZ] 1984 500SEL Surrender
> >>
> >>
> >>> I'm thinking this guy is going to be back to me in a couple of weeks,
> >>> ready to take $500 for this car
> >>>
> >>> I saw that he just updated the CL listing for it instead of creating a
> > new
> >>> listing.  Not a bright idea, as it will stay way, way down the list and
> >>> not be current.  And he's asking $950, not $700 like he was earlier.
> >>>
> >>> http://tampa.craigslist.org/hdo/cto/4587368673.html
> >>>
> >>> "Car will start."
> >>>
> >>> Wow.  That gives me a lot of confidence.  I'll give him until after the
> >>> Labor Day weekend.
> >>>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Macbook Pro S/W update kills it

2014-08-23 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
When you're making that big of a jump between revs it's almost always best to 
do the delta updates rather then the "combo" or full updates.  The combo 
updates are what they would be downloading to your machine from the App Store.  
You have to go to the OSX support Web site for each rev and download each of 
the delta updates individually.

>From that big of a jump I would probably try to do a clean install with the 
>latest supported OSX rev,  Trying to update over 3-4 revs is going to be 
>problematic at best.

This is not an Apple issue - it would be like trying to jump from the original 
XP version to SP4 in one step.  That big of a gap and stuff is going to break.

MacDan


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wrote:

> I managed, again, to boot into recovery mode then was able to reboot from the 
> recovery HD image, and it worked.  I shut off the sleep and now it is 
> downloading 10.9 Mavericks about 2/3 there.  I am hoping this cures it.  I 
> hate their stupid names.
> 
> It is funny, when it finally came alive again, the apps I had open when it 
> tried to reboot last night are all open and my file I was using is there.  I 
> guess somehow it saves a "state" so it can be recovered.  It rebooted into 
> 10.3 I think, which was before the 10.8 updates.  So it was trying to go from 
> .3 to .8.5  Whatever, it should be finished in awhile, I'll see what sorts.
> 
> I am not doing anything of the sort to my desktop machine, it can just crunch 
> along on its old state.
> 
> I will make a recovery DVD I guess when this all gets sorted.
> 
> --R
> 
> 
> On 8/23/14 6:37 PM, Peter Frederick wrote:
>> This is why I keep a bootable disk around -- you can make a full copy of the 
>> OS onto a DVD or external drive using Disk Utility or Carbon Copy Cloner, 
>> and that way you can always at least boot the stinking thing and get on line.
>> 
>> Do you have another Mac around and a Firewire cable?  You should be able to 
>> boot the laptop into disk mode and connect it to another computer, thus 
>> allowing you to run disk utility and possibly transfer a working copy of the 
>> OS.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] trailer hitches

2014-08-23 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
I inquired a while ago I think...

The consensus is that the hitch sold for the 300TD is a great hitch, but
interferes with with exhaust pipe on a sedan.  The work around is to
install a 300TD muffler on your sedan.

Otherwise, you get a bumper hitch from Curt.  The kind that bolts to the
spare tire well and bumper.  I have installed one of these thing spring and
I'm pretty happy with it for light use.  I pulled my utility trailer with
lighter loads (<1000lbs total) and a log splitter so far.  No complains.

However, I'm going to remove it and sell the car I think, since I just
acquired a W126 300SD that better suits my needs (which involves leave the
car parked in a lot for weeks at a time).  So I'll remove the hitch and get
one for the W126... I think one is available that looks pretty good.

Jaime



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> Folks
>
> wasn't someone on the list making so 123 …. 300td trailer hitches?
>
>
> thanks,
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> xx rick
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Re: [MBZ] OT Macbook Pro S/W update kills it

2014-08-23 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
I managed, again, to boot into recovery mode then was able to reboot 
from the recovery HD image, and it worked.  I shut off the sleep and now 
it is downloading 10.9 Mavericks about 2/3 there.  I am hoping this 
cures it.  I hate their stupid names.


It is funny, when it finally came alive again, the apps I had open when 
it tried to reboot last night are all open and my file I was using is 
there.  I guess somehow it saves a "state" so it can be recovered.  It 
rebooted into 10.3 I think, which was before the 10.8 updates.  So it 
was trying to go from .3 to .8.5  Whatever, it should be finished in 
awhile, I'll see what sorts.


I am not doing anything of the sort to my desktop machine, it can just 
crunch along on its old state.


I will make a recovery DVD I guess when this all gets sorted.

--R


On 8/23/14 6:37 PM, Peter Frederick wrote:
This is why I keep a bootable disk around -- you can make a full copy 
of the OS onto a DVD or external drive using Disk Utility or Carbon 
Copy Cloner, and that way you can always at least boot the stinking 
thing and get on line.


Do you have another Mac around and a Firewire cable?  You should be 
able to boot the laptop into disk mode and connect it to another 
computer, thus allowing you to run disk utility and possibly transfer 
a working copy of the OS.


Peter




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Re: [MBZ] OT Macbook Pro S/W update kills it

2014-08-23 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
This is why I keep a bootable disk around -- you can make a full copy  
of the OS onto a DVD or external drive using Disk Utility or Carbon  
Copy Cloner, and that way you can always at least boot the stinking  
thing and get on line.


Do you have another Mac around and a Firewire cable?  You should be  
able to boot the laptop into disk mode and connect it to another  
computer, thus allowing you to run disk utility and possibly transfer  
a working copy of the OS.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] OT Macbook Pro S/W update kills it

2014-08-23 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
I have tried rebooting, no go.  Now trying to boot into the Recovery and 
Disk Utility just gives me GSOD.


This thing is buggered good.  wow.

--R


On 8/23/14 5:45 PM, Peter Frederick wrote:

Try again and make sure it's plugged in and set to never sleep.

I have never been able to understand why both PC and Apple computers 
can "go to sleep" when a program is active in the foreground


Peter




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Re: [MBZ] OT Macbook Pro S/W update kills it

2014-08-23 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes

Try again and make sure it's plugged in and set to never sleep.

I have never been able to understand why both PC and Apple computers  
can "go to sleep" when a program is active in the foreground


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] OT Macbook Pro S/W update kills it

2014-08-23 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Now the machine has locked up with 1.90/5.32GB downloaded, looks like it 
gorked when the screen sleep or whatever kicked in.


--R


On 8/23/14 4:58 PM, Peter Frederick wrote:
Unfortunately, some security upgrades can cause serious issued on 
older (more than two years older than the OS) machines.


Crappy support from Apple -- they really only want you to use a device 
for a year or two and buy another one, in spite of the fact that 
usually their hardware is very robust -- I'm using a MDD G4 dual 
1.25GHz desktop to write this with zero issues once I got good memory 
in it.


The root issue is bad security development in the first place, and 
since it's Unix, that goes back a long, long way.  No excuse, 
especially at the price point, but it is what it is.


Microsoft is STILL trying to kill off XP, after all.  Sadly, it was by 
far the most stable OS they ever produced.  I've not had serious 
problems with 7 at work, and I detest 8, but it's too early to tell.


I do abhor the new Office package.  Some idiot decided that all the 
menus needed to be changed around and everything re-named, and the 
whole screen is now pastels and low contrast -- I hope whoever decided 
that gets fired when they are 55 because they made a stupid mistake 
from being unable to read the options list


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Re: [MBZ] OT Macbook Pro S/W update kills it

2014-08-23 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
Unfortunately, some security upgrades can cause serious issued on  
older (more than two years older than the OS) machines.


Crappy support from Apple -- they really only want you to use a device  
for a year or two and buy another one, in spite of the fact that  
usually their hardware is very robust -- I'm using a MDD G4 dual  
1.25GHz desktop to write this with zero issues once I got good memory  
in it.


The root issue is bad security development in the first place, and  
since it's Unix, that goes back a long, long way.  No excuse,  
especially at the price point, but it is what it is.


Microsoft is STILL trying to kill off XP, after all.  Sadly, it was by  
far the most stable OS they ever produced.  I've not had serious  
problems with 7 at work, and I detest 8, but it's too early to tell.


I do abhor the new Office package.  Some idiot decided that all the  
menus needed to be changed around and everything re-named, and the  
whole screen is now pastels and low contrast -- I hope whoever decided  
that gets fired when they are 55 because they made a stupid mistake  
from being unable to read the options list


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] OT Macbook Pro S/W update kills it

2014-08-23 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
After doing an Internet Recovery and that not working, then rebooting 
several times to try to get to the install where it would actually see 
my hard drive, I was able to do that after doing Disk Verify and Restore 
a couple of times on the main HD and the recovery? drive.  Tried to 
install the Lion then, says it is unavailable, which the tubes say is 
the next common problem. Anyway, after doing the verify and restore, I 
decided to reboot and OH FRABJOUS DAY! it booted right up.  Then it told 
me that I had some software updates available, one was 10.9 and another 
was to upgrade 10.8.4, which is I think what caused the problems last 
night.  5.32GB ugh.


So I am now downloading the 10.9 upgrade, will see if that works now.  I 
declined the 10.8.5 and some other app updates, so maybe this will get 
it functioning again.  I logged in with my AppleID, I hope that doesn't 
bugger things up if my wife's ID is still associated with this machine.  
I guess I'll see.


It looks like that 10.8.5 upgrade software buggered the hard drive files 
or something.  Applecrap software there.


--R


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Re: [MBZ] Hella quartz halogen headlights

2014-08-23 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:

H4 is plug compatible with 7" or 6x8" (or the low beam lamp in 5 3/4" or 
4x6") sealed beam.


It appears that some things have changed since the W123 was made, and now there 
are replacements advertised as HB2 or 9003 bulbs?

I have no idea what the difference between those and H4 is.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Hella quartz halogen headlights

2014-08-23 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

G. M. Brown via Mercedes wrote:

I've recently seen some of you post that you've converted
 to Hella quartz halogen headlights.  I see that Amazon has these (HELLA
 002395991 7" H4 Type Single High/Low Beam Headlamp) for $37.07 with 
free shipping.  This may be a silly question, but is this

a direct drop in without having to rewire the standard headlight plug in
 my '84 300D?  Also, in case I may not be happy with the light output, 
has anyone substituted the 100/80W bulbs for the standard 60/55W bulbs? 



H4 is plug compatible with 7" or 6x8" (or the low beam lamp in 5 3/4" or 4x6") 
sealed beam.
H1 is compatible with 5 3/4" or 4x6" high beams (for the W108,109, 116 and 107 
owners) I assume H1 can replace the W123 fog lights, but can't guarantee it.


I had a minor problem with my Plymouth Horizon, the rubber cover over the back 
of the H4 bulb on my Hellas was larger than the hole in the back of my headlamp 
frame, so I had to dremel the heck out of the buckets to get the Hella lamps in.

The Chevy Citation I had before it didn't have that problem.

If you go oversized on the bulbs, try to find some 55/100w bulbs so that low 
beam isn't offensive to others. (but with all the HID stuff of varying qualities 
out there, I'm not sure that nasty low beams stand out in the crowd that much 
any more)


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Lambo v. SLS

2014-08-23 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

Craig via Mercedes wrote:

On Sat, 23 Aug 2014 10:54:51 -0400 Rich Thomas via Mercedes
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http://jalopnik.com/watch-this-lamborghini-race-car-completely-flip-end-ove-1625937547


At least this one had a visible reason, unlike the Mercedes a few years
ago that spontaneously went airborne and did a back-flip.


Yeah, the sand trap didn't trap and the Lambo hit the wall pretty hard.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Hella quartz halogen headlights

2014-08-23 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
I think Euros were all H4 bulbs, only the DOT headlamps were not.   
That said, people in other parts of the world used to buy US DOT  
headlamp assemblies for the W108/109 chassis cars since the Euro spec  
were single bulb and the US spec was dual bult -- even with crappy  
Halogen sealed beam headlights, four bulbs gave a lot more light than  
two on high beams.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] Hella quartz halogen headlights

2014-08-23 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
The 7" Hellas I used in my '81 300D slipped right in as direct replacements 
for factory originals.   I may still have the boxes they came in.  I'll try 
to find the boxes and identify the lamps more specifically.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "G. M. Brown via Mercedes" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 1:11 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Hella quartz halogen headlights



I've recently seen some of you post that you've converted
to Hella quartz halogen headlights.  I see that Amazon has these (HELLA
002395991 7" H4 Type Single High/Low Beam Headlamp) for $37.07 with
free shipping.  This may be a silly question, but is this
a direct drop in without having to rewire the standard headlight plug in
my '84 300D?  Also, in case I may not be happy with the light output,
has anyone substituted the 100/80W bulbs for the standard 60/55W bulbs?
TIA.





G. M. Brown


Brevard, NC
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Re: [MBZ] 1and! Hosting

2014-08-23 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I have hosted six web sites with them as well as all the related services since 
2006.

It wasn't a chunk of money but it was decent for them, I suspect.

Dan


On Aug 23, 2014, at 1:02 PM, Craig  wrote:

> On Sat, 23 Aug 2014 08:52:07 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> Now that everything is moved over and working I'm pulling the plug on
>> 1and1.  Should be interesting, as I've heard their retention people are
>> pretty ruthless, almost as bad as Comcast.
> 
> I don't recall being bothered by their retention people, so they must not
> have tried too much with me. Then again, I had only their cheap email
> service ...
> 
> 
> Craig


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Re: [MBZ] OT - Kubota tractors tier 4 was 1984 500SEL Surrender

2014-08-23 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
The supply of recent "older" tractors is limited.  During the recession
"hobby" tractor sales dropped dramatically and quite a few smaller dealers
went out of business (or quit selling tractors).  

I can't comment on any common rail injection systems but the all-mechanical
injection systems will be very familiar to any MBZ Diesel owner.  The main
difference is that the injection cam is in the block, not in a separate IP.
This actually makes IP replacement easy because injection timing is set by
shims between the IP and the block.  The IP rack is positioned by spring
force (more fuel) balanced against a centrifugal retarding force.  There is
a pre-chamber with glow plugs.  All very much like a 617, but simpler.



> -Original Message-
> From: Craig
> Sent: Friday, August 22, 2014 8:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Kubota tractors tier 4 was 1984 500SEL Surrender
> 
> On Fri, 22 Aug 2014 18:19:07 -0400 David & Kristin Gilmore via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> >   Beware the EPA's tier 4 pollution standard.  Although I
> > understand it is not required in final form in off road diesels under
> > 75 hp for a few more years, Kubota has been introducing tier 4 in
> > their new tractor engines.  I hear the changes include common rail
> > computer controlled electronic injectors, a urea tank, a catalytic
> > converter, and a particulate filter.  And a price increase of several
> > thousand dollars. I would go for an older model.
> 
> It sounds like the prices of older tractors will go up.
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Hella quartz halogen headlights

2014-08-23 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes

H4 uses a different socket, I think.

If you have Euro's, you have the H4 socket, if you have DOT headlamps,  
I don't think you do.  Not possible to do a fast swap.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] OT Macbook Pro S/W update kills it

2014-08-23 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes

I think I am going to keep it but I will take a look at that too.

I am at a screen now Mac OS X Utilities that has a choice to Reinstall 
Mac OS X (new copy of Lion) which is not doing anything at the moment so 
i guess I will leave it for awhile and see if it does something.  It has 
a Disk Utility feature too that moght have some relevance.


Well now it looks like it wants me to tell it where to install Lion but 
it does not show a disk.  h.


--R


On 8/23/14 12:13 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

If she has iCloud and the "Find my Mac" feature turned on, don't sell it until 
you can remove the feature. Otherwise her iCloud account will be forever linked to the 
machine.

Check Apple's support site about how to clean it off.

Dan


On Aug 23, 2014, at 11:41 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes  
wrote:

The recovery utility is apparently in firmware somewhere somehow and you can 
wake it up with finger incantations that require something like the gang sign 
flashing thing.

The problem appears to be an upgrade from OSX 10.8.4 to 10.8.5 which apparently 
crashed many many machines.  I think this is what it wanted to do last night so 
I let it, with the GSOD then appearing. It is now saying 3:57 which means at 
some point this afternoon something might work.  I'm not sure exactly what it 
is downloading, what version of OSX but I guess I might see in 4 hours.

My wife had pretty much cleaned everything off as she was going to sell it but 
couldn't get much for it so it sat since like Nov or Dec (I did not know this). 
 So now I get to try to resurrect it after it tried to upgrade itself.

--R



On 8/23/14 11:10 AM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote:
It's not the actual OS as much as all the junk attached to it.

And no, it's NOT worse than Windows.  Not enough OS left it if crashes to DO an 
internet restore, since it is still, so far as I can tell, running CPM-86 down 
in some dark basement through a thousand layers of interface software!

Peter

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Re: [MBZ] An oil question

2014-08-23 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
I use it in my '95 E300.  Over 20k miles there has been a gradual
improvement in shifting behavior, now more often than not the transmission
is finding the right gear.  Not nearly as dramatic as the improvement in my
'87 wagon, this transmission was shifting fairly well before I began using
the M1.

Max Dillon,
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 On Aug 23, 2014 12:20 AM, "Craig via Mercedes" 
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> Is Mobil1 ATF suitable for the transmission in a 1995 E320?
>
> Thanks,
>
>
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[MBZ] Hella quartz halogen headlights

2014-08-23 Thread G. M. Brown via Mercedes
I've recently seen some of you post that you've converted
 to Hella quartz halogen headlights.  I see that Amazon has these (HELLA
 002395991 7" H4 Type Single High/Low Beam Headlamp) for $37.07 with 
free shipping.  This may be a silly question, but is this
a direct drop in without having to rewire the standard headlight plug in
 my '84 300D?  Also, in case I may not be happy with the light output, 
has anyone substituted the 100/80W bulbs for the standard 60/55W bulbs? 
 TIA.





G. M. Brown


Brevard, NC   
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Re: [MBZ] Lambo v. SLS

2014-08-23 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Sat, 23 Aug 2014 10:54:51 -0400 Rich Thomas via Mercedes
 wrote:

> http://jalopnik.com/watch-this-lamborghini-race-car-completely-flip-end-ove-1625937547

At least this one had a visible reason, unlike the Mercedes a few years
ago that spontaneously went airborne and did a back-flip.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 1and! Hosting

2014-08-23 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Sat, 23 Aug 2014 08:52:07 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Now that everything is moved over and working I'm pulling the plug on
> 1and1.  Should be interesting, as I've heard their retention people are
> pretty ruthless, almost as bad as Comcast.

I don't recall being bothered by their retention people, so they must not
have tried too much with me. Then again, I had only their cheap email
service ...


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Kubota tractors tier 4 was 1984 500SEL Surrender

2014-08-23 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Kinds of like a Mercedes?


On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 8:02 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> From what I am seeing used ones have a bunch of hours and are much cheaper
> than brand new
>
>
>


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Re: [MBZ] OT Macbook Pro S/W update kills it

2014-08-23 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
If she has iCloud and the "Find my Mac" feature turned on, don't sell it until 
you can remove the feature. Otherwise her iCloud account will be forever linked 
to the machine.

Check Apple's support site about how to clean it off.

Dan

> On Aug 23, 2014, at 11:41 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The recovery utility is apparently in firmware somewhere somehow and you can 
> wake it up with finger incantations that require something like the gang sign 
> flashing thing.
> 
> The problem appears to be an upgrade from OSX 10.8.4 to 10.8.5 which 
> apparently crashed many many machines.  I think this is what it wanted to do 
> last night so I let it, with the GSOD then appearing. It is now saying 3:57 
> which means at some point this afternoon something might work.  I'm not sure 
> exactly what it is downloading, what version of OSX but I guess I might see 
> in 4 hours.
> 
> My wife had pretty much cleaned everything off as she was going to sell it 
> but couldn't get much for it so it sat since like Nov or Dec (I did not know 
> this).  So now I get to try to resurrect it after it tried to upgrade itself.
> 
> --R
> 
> 
>> On 8/23/14 11:10 AM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote:
>> It's not the actual OS as much as all the junk attached to it.
>> 
>> And no, it's NOT worse than Windows.  Not enough OS left it if crashes to DO 
>> an internet restore, since it is still, so far as I can tell, running CPM-86 
>> down in some dark basement through a thousand layers of interface software!
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Macbook Pro S/W update kills it

2014-08-23 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
The recovery utility is apparently in firmware somewhere somehow and you 
can wake it up with finger incantations that require something like the 
gang sign flashing thing.


The problem appears to be an upgrade from OSX 10.8.4 to 10.8.5 which 
apparently crashed many many machines.  I think this is what it wanted 
to do last night so I let it, with the GSOD then appearing. It is now 
saying 3:57 which means at some point this afternoon something might 
work.  I'm not sure exactly what it is downloading, what version of OSX 
but I guess I might see in 4 hours.


My wife had pretty much cleaned everything off as she was going to sell 
it but couldn't get much for it so it sat since like Nov or Dec (I did 
not know this).  So now I get to try to resurrect it after it tried to 
upgrade itself.


--R


On 8/23/14 11:10 AM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote:

It's not the actual OS as much as all the junk attached to it.

And no, it's NOT worse than Windows.  Not enough OS left it if crashes 
to DO an internet restore, since it is still, so far as I can tell, 
running CPM-86 down in some dark basement through a thousand layers of 
interface software!


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] 1984 500SEL Surrender

2014-08-23 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
If it's so great, why aren't you living there?

Poos

> On Aug 23, 2014, at 10:34 AM, Gary Hurst  wrote:
> 
> it's only much of it where there are meth labs.  lakeland is an up and coming 
> small city with a great downtown that will build a huge high tech corridor 
> along I4.  it IS the future
> 
> 
>> On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 5:43 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
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>> Uh, right.
>> 
>> I move to Lakeland for an hour commute one way and get meth lab and grow 
>> house neighbors.
>> 
>> No thanks.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
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>> > On Aug 21, 2014, at 7:13 PM, Gary Hurst  wrote:
>> >
>> > you sh ould move to lakeland as there is plenty of room
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 7:09 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>> >>  wrote:
>> >> I don't really need it at this point, but if I could get it for $500 I 
>> >> would jump on it.  The car has some potential for a decent driver but not 
>> >> a big money flip.  After I got the tank coated and the rest of the car 
>> >> cleaned up I could probably get $1500 for it around here.
>> >>
>> >> Any more than $500 and it's not worth the effort.  It will cost me $50 in 
>> >> gas just to tow it home.
>> >>
>> >> And, I have a car that I'm getting after Labor Day that's going to be 
>> >> occupying my time for a little while anyway.  Not enugh room in the 
>> >> driveway
>> >>
>> >> Dan
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Aug 21, 2014, at 7:05 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Geez poos just buy it already!
>> >> >
>> >> > Sent from my iPhone
>> >> >
>> >> >> On Aug 21, 2014, at 6:01 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>> >> >>  wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I'm thinking this guy is going to be back to me in a couple of weeks, 
>> >> >> ready to take $500 for this car
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I saw that he just updated the CL listing for it instead of creating a 
>> >> >> new listing.  Not a bright idea, as it will stay way, way down the 
>> >> >> list and not be current.  And he's asking $950, not $700 like he was 
>> >> >> earlier.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> http://tampa.craigslist.org/hdo/cto/4587368673.html
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Car will start."
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Wow.  That gives me a lot of confidence.  I'll give him until after 
>> >> >> the Labor Day weekend.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Dan
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Re: [MBZ] OT Macbook Pro S/W update kills it

2014-08-23 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes

It's not the actual OS as much as all the junk attached to it.

And no, it's NOT worse than Windows.  Not enough OS left it if crashes  
to DO an internet restore, since it is still, so far as I can tell,  
running CPM-86 down in some dark basement through a thousand layers of  
interface software!


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Re: [MBZ] OT Macbook Pro S/W update kills it

2014-08-23 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote:
The status bar on the internet recovery is moving slowly, with an 
apparent timer that is bouncing around between 8something and now 4:58, 
which I guess is hours to download 4TB or something of OS N.N


So there is something out there worse than Windows.

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Re: [MBZ] OT Macbook Pro S/W update kills it

2014-08-23 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
The status bar on the internet recovery is moving slowly, with an 
apparent timer that is bouncing around between 8something and now 4:58, 
which I guess is hours to download 4TB or something of OS N.N


--R


On 8/23/14 9:49 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote:
I tried almost everything and couldn't get past spinning wheels. Right 
now it appears to be doing an Internet Recovery cmd-alt-R on startup 
which worked to get some response, I had to plug it into the router as 
it was having problems connecting over wireless.  It looks like it 
might be downloading something (has a spinning globe and looks like a 
download bar that is not moving), I'll see what it does, if this 
doesn't work I'll probably have to take it into Apple store and see if 
they will unscrew what their brokeass software did.


Apparently these things no longer ship with a recovery disk, you have 
to do this internet recovery thing.


--R


On 8/23/14 6:46 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

I read in more detail and saw that you think you have OSX 10.8.

If that is is the case, then you should have a recovery volume on the 
machine. reboot or start up while holding the "Command + R" keys 
down.  Don't let up on it until you see some nard drive icons show up 
on the screen.  These are volumes that are bootable.  Once of them 
should be the Recovery HD volume. Choose (click) on it and press 
"Enter".


Dan



On Aug 23, 2014, at 6:37 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:



First question:  What version of OSX does it have on it?

MacDan

On Aug 23, 2014, at 12:30 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
 wrote:


My wife had this MBP sitting around she hadn't used for like 10 
months (don't ask).  Tonight I fired it up and was using it, it 
kept annoying me to do a software update, 10.8 something I think.  
So I did that, was like 2GB of something.  Restarted and it just 
freezes, gray screen, spinning wheel, or just gray screen.  
Apparently this was a major issue from what I see, but none of the 
suggested fixes do anything.  She claims that it did not come with 
a recovery disk, or doesn't have it, or something.  So the question 
is how do I get this thing working again?


I have an imac recovery disk but it won't boot into safe mode or 
any of the other modes with the various key combinations at startup 
to get at some sort of "boot off disk."  I was able to get it to do 
a "verbose" startup, shift command V or something, but that hung 
too once it got so far after displaying lines of stuff.


Is this thing totally hosed? Do I need to take it to the mac store 
and get them to try to fix it?  It's their damn software that 
killed it...


--R




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Re: [MBZ] B-52 question for WILTON

2014-08-23 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

On 22/08/2014 10:10 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

So you're not like Canadians?  You know, everybody knows each other, eh?



Dan it's late and I'm getting punchy




Hey, it is much easier for us.
There are not as many of us as there are of you folks south of the border.

Randy

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[MBZ] Lambo v. SLS

2014-08-23 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes

http://jalopnik.com/watch-this-lamborghini-race-car-completely-flip-end-ove-1625937547

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Re: [MBZ] 1984 500SEL Surrender

2014-08-23 Thread Gary Hurst via Mercedes
it's only much of it where there are meth labs.  lakeland is an up and
coming small city with a great downtown that will build a huge high tech
corridor along I4.  it IS the future


On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 5:43 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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> Uh, right.
>
> I move to Lakeland for an hour commute one way and get meth lab and grow
> house neighbors.
>
> No thanks.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Aug 21, 2014, at 7:13 PM, Gary Hurst  wrote:
> >
> > you sh ould move to lakeland as there is plenty of room
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 7:09 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> I don't really need it at this point, but if I could get it for $500 I
> would jump on it.  The car has some potential for a decent driver but not a
> big money flip.  After I got the tank coated and the rest of the car
> cleaned up I could probably get $1500 for it around here.
> >>
> >> Any more than $500 and it's not worth the effort.  It will cost me $50
> in gas just to tow it home.
> >>
> >> And, I have a car that I'm getting after Labor Day that's going to be
> occupying my time for a little while anyway.  Not enugh room in the
> driveway
> >>
> >> Dan
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Aug 21, 2014, at 7:05 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Geez poos just buy it already!
> >> >
> >> > Sent from my iPhone
> >> >
> >> >> On Aug 21, 2014, at 6:01 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> I'm thinking this guy is going to be back to me in a couple of
> weeks, ready to take $500 for this car
> >> >>
> >> >> I saw that he just updated the CL listing for it instead of creating
> a new listing.  Not a bright idea, as it will stay way, way down the list
> and not be current.  And he's asking $950, not $700 like he was earlier.
> >> >>
> >> >> http://tampa.craigslist.org/hdo/cto/4587368673.html
> >> >>
> >> >> "Car will start."
> >> >>
> >> >> Wow.  That gives me a lot of confidence.  I'll give him until after
> the Labor Day weekend.
> >> >>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Macbook Pro S/W update kills it

2014-08-23 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
I tried almost everything and couldn't get past spinning wheels. Right 
now it appears to be doing an Internet Recovery cmd-alt-R on startup 
which worked to get some response, I had to plug it into the router as 
it was having problems connecting over wireless.  It looks like it might 
be downloading something (has a spinning globe and looks like a download 
bar that is not moving), I'll see what it does, if this doesn't work 
I'll probably have to take it into Apple store and see if they will 
unscrew what their brokeass software did.


Apparently these things no longer ship with a recovery disk, you have to 
do this internet recovery thing.


--R


On 8/23/14 6:46 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

I read in more detail and saw that you think you have OSX 10.8.

If that is is the case, then you should have a recovery volume on the machine. reboot or start up 
while holding the "Command + R" keys down.  Don't let up on it until you see some nard 
drive icons show up on the screen.  These are volumes that are bootable.  Once of them should be 
the Recovery HD volume.  Choose (click) on it and press "Enter".

Dan



On Aug 23, 2014, at 6:37 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
wrote:


First question:  What version of OSX does it have on it?

MacDan

On Aug 23, 2014, at 12:30 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes  
wrote:


My wife had this MBP sitting around she hadn't used for like 10 months (don't 
ask).  Tonight I fired it up and was using it, it kept annoying me to do a 
software update, 10.8 something I think.  So I did that, was like 2GB of 
something.  Restarted and it just freezes, gray screen, spinning wheel, or just 
gray screen.  Apparently this was a major issue from what I see, but none of 
the suggested fixes do anything.  She claims that it did not come with a 
recovery disk, or doesn't have it, or something.  So the question is how do I 
get this thing working again?

I have an imac recovery disk but it won't boot into safe mode or any of the other modes with the 
various key combinations at startup to get at some sort of "boot off disk."  I was able 
to get it to do a "verbose" startup, shift command V or something, but that hung too once 
it got so far after displaying lines of stuff.

Is this thing totally hosed? Do I need to take it to the mac store and get them 
to try to fix it?  It's their damn software that killed it...

--R



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Re: [MBZ] OT Macbook Pro S/W update kills it

2014-08-23 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes

You can boot to single-user mode with Cmd-Opt-S (?), from there you
can poke around disabling things, perhaps.

Boot from a CD with C and something in the drive.  That's
the start-over option.  If you have an OS install CD/DVD.
Recovery disks are fairly machine-specific.  I doubt an
iMac disc is going to be of much use.

Generally the updates are a good idea, and work well enough.
Disclaimer: our newest OS is 10.6 on a MBP.  SWMBA hates it.
I've gotta say, it's no Pismo.

-- Jim


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[MBZ] 1and! Hosting

2014-08-23 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Just a postscript to my experience with 1and1

I continued to get spam alerts from Verizon over email originating from 1and1 
servers until the very end.  This was after almost four weeks from their 
promises that it would end.

Also, I hosted six domains with them.  I received confirmations of the domain 
transfers last Sunday when I initiated them.  They all showed that my domains 
would transfer by 13:00 local time yesterday.  Three of them transferred around 
17:00, the other three didn't go until almost midnight.  I called them around 
19L00 and asked why the others hadn't transferred yet and they just gave me the 
runaround.  When I asked them if their email confirmation was wrong, they 
wouldn't respond.

Now that everything is moved over and working I'm pulling the plug on 1and1.  
Should be interesting, as I've heard their retention people are pretty 
ruthless, almost as bad as Comcast.

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] OT Macbook Pro S/W update kills it

2014-08-23 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I read in more detail and saw that you think you have OSX 10.8.

If that is is the case, then you should have a recovery volume on the machine. 
reboot or start up while holding the "Command + R" keys down.  Don't let up on 
it until you see some nard drive icons show up on the screen.  These are 
volumes that are bootable.  Once of them should be the Recovery HD volume.  
Choose (click) on it and press "Enter".

Dan



On Aug 23, 2014, at 6:37 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
wrote:

> First question:  What version of OSX does it have on it?
> 
> MacDan
> 
> On Aug 23, 2014, at 12:30 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
>> My wife had this MBP sitting around she hadn't used for like 10 months 
>> (don't ask).  Tonight I fired it up and was using it, it kept annoying me to 
>> do a software update, 10.8 something I think.  So I did that, was like 2GB 
>> of something.  Restarted and it just freezes, gray screen, spinning wheel, 
>> or just gray screen.  Apparently this was a major issue from what I see, but 
>> none of the suggested fixes do anything.  She claims that it did not come 
>> with a recovery disk, or doesn't have it, or something.  So the question is 
>> how do I get this thing working again?
>> 
>> I have an imac recovery disk but it won't boot into safe mode or any of the 
>> other modes with the various key combinations at startup to get at some sort 
>> of "boot off disk."  I was able to get it to do a "verbose" startup, shift 
>> command V or something, but that hung too once it got so far after 
>> displaying lines of stuff.
>> 
>> Is this thing totally hosed? Do I need to take it to the mac store and get 
>> them to try to fix it?  It's their damn software that killed it...
>> 
>> --R
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Macbook Pro S/W update kills it

2014-08-23 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
First question:  What version of OSX does it have on it?

MacDan

On Aug 23, 2014, at 12:30 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes  
wrote:

> My wife had this MBP sitting around she hadn't used for like 10 months (don't 
> ask).  Tonight I fired it up and was using it, it kept annoying me to do a 
> software update, 10.8 something I think.  So I did that, was like 2GB of 
> something.  Restarted and it just freezes, gray screen, spinning wheel, or 
> just gray screen.  Apparently this was a major issue from what I see, but 
> none of the suggested fixes do anything.  She claims that it did not come 
> with a recovery disk, or doesn't have it, or something.  So the question is 
> how do I get this thing working again?
> 
> I have an imac recovery disk but it won't boot into safe mode or any of the 
> other modes with the various key combinations at startup to get at some sort 
> of "boot off disk."  I was able to get it to do a "verbose" startup, shift 
> command V or something, but that hung too once it got so far after displaying 
> lines of stuff.
> 
> Is this thing totally hosed? Do I need to take it to the mac store and get 
> them to try to fix it?  It's their damn software that killed it...
> 
> --R
> 
> 
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