Re: [MBZ] without comment

[G Mann via Mercedes]

The observation could be made that the difference between the Amish and the
Environmentalist is that with the Environmentalist the horse chit comes
first... not after the horse passes..

But then... it's France I understand the French military is in crisis.
The only white flag company in France burned down and the country is two
broke to rebuild it Just an observation... ;))


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On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 7:39 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
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> Most of us won't be around to enjoy this.
>
> On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 4:40 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > On 06/07/2017 3:09 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
> >
> >> https://jalopnik.com/france-plans-to-ban-sales-of-gasoline-
> >> and-diesel-vehicl-1796677036
> >>
> >>
> >> It will be like the old days. There will be horse manure in the streets.
> > The Amish are ahead of the curve for once.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] PS hose repair?

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

I forget where I was, but one place I used had a huge expensive looking 
hydraulic press, and dozens of collets of different sizes and number of 
segments to fit any imaginable crimp ferule. 
It had to have been either the Kubota dealer or the Cathey Company, probably 
CatheyCo, they made the oil cooler lines for my 300SD back in 2002. 

I figured FLAPS would use some handheld thing from Yellow Jacket or Mastercool, 
but never checked with them.
 
I just now checked Amazon, and the Mastercool tool looks like it probably does 
exactly the same job as the big hose machine I saw years ago. 
If you only need the sizes it's set up for, that thing could pay for itself in 
rehosing one car:
https://www.amazon.com/Mastercool-71550-Black-Manual-Crimper/dp/B000WBQ4U2

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Re: [MBZ] without comment

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Most of us won't be around to enjoy this.

On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 4:40 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> On 06/07/2017 3:09 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> https://jalopnik.com/france-plans-to-ban-sales-of-gasoline-
>> and-diesel-vehicl-1796677036
>>
>>
>> It will be like the old days. There will be horse manure in the streets.
> The Amish are ahead of the curve for once.
>
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Re: [MBZ] crack

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Could be a BAT flip candidate (assuming reasonable miles)

On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 3:49 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/6204231031.html
>
>
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> large or petty,
> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of
> the enemy.”
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Re: [MBZ] Surprisingly nice 1990 SEC W126 coupe on BAT

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Remind me - what color combo?

On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 2:56 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> The one I bought for cheepcheep is not too bad, it runs fine but has some
> neglect that could easy be sorted out with a bit of time and money.  But in
> the meantime I will drive it and enjoy it.  I like the body style a lot.
>
> --FT
>
>
> On 7/6/17 11:25 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> W126 coupes are especially desirable these days. There is a subgroup of
>> owners on Benz World that are pretty active, and they're always talking
>> about values going up.
>>
>> They never appealed to me, but I can see why they're well liked. You get
>> a 5.6 liter V8 in that car and it's a bit of a rocket ship with period
>> luxury.
>>
>> -D
>>
>> On Jul 6, 2017, at 11:06 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> WOW!  $12K for this with no a/c?   I guess BAT strikes again.  There is
>>> no way I would have predicted it to go that high!
>>>
>>> Don Snook
>>>
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Re: [MBZ] "Collectible" 1979 coupe attracts little interest on BAT

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Price creeping up.  Now $2750.

On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 1:27 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes <
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> No, it's some other guy on there.  I'm jaimekop, but I don't comment too
> often
>
> Jaime
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 12:16 PM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
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> > I'll bet this goes over $4k.  "Jaime" is our Jaime?
> >
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 10:32 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > And now, with a day to go on the auction, the seller is going to try to
> > > resolder the CC amp?
> > >
> > > I think people are holding off on bidding until the condition of the
> car
> > > quits changing.
> > >
> > > > On July 6, 2017 at 10:02 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > This W123 300CD lies at the bottom of the heap despite all the hoopla
> > > about
> > > > how collectible this model is or would become.  My theory is that
> they
> > > > lack visual appeal.
> > > >
> > > > http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1979-mercedes-benz-300cd/
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Re: [MBZ] PS hose repair?

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Thu, 6 Jul 2017 18:50:47 -0400 (EDT) Mitch Haley via Mercedes
 wrote:

> It's a hydraulic steering assist system. 
> Take the hoses to your local farm implement or industrial hydraulics
> dealer.

NAPA makes hoses (at least in its downtown Albuquerque store).


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] PS hose repair?

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

It's a hydraulic steering assist system. 
Take the hoses to your local farm implement or industrial hydraulics dealer.

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Re: [MBZ] Generic Mercedes $4k

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Hidden at the bottom I can see a description of what's wrong with it.
Ask Clay for details:
2000 Mercedes CLS
Miles:135,000
S-430

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Re: [MBZ] Too hot to touch

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On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 4:58 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Rattle can white paint all over it - - I hate black cars.
>

Ha!  Beat me to it.

-MMM-
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Re: [MBZ] Too hot to touch

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Yep, umn-hmmm.

Wilt

- Original Message - 
From: "Meade Dillon via Mercedes" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Cc: "Meade Dillon" 
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2017 3:37 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Too hot to touch



I'll give you $500 to take the trouble off your hands.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 3:32 PM, WILTON via Mercedes 


wrote:


At Lowe's coupla hours ago, outside of Schwartze (my black '07 E320CDI)
was so hot I could not touch it while moving from driver's door to trunk 
to

remove and assemble mobility scooter I keep there.  'Had to ask 2 men
nearby to help me move around left, rear corner of car.  I can usually 
hook
ends my fingers into the space between rear "windshield" and upper, 
forward

edge of the trunk lid to help me negotiate this corner.  'Called another
man nearby to help me retrace the route when I returned to  the car. 
'Have

never seen outside of a car so hot before - not even in Mojave Desert.

Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] Too hot to touch

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Yep, that was one of the nice things about the white, '87 300D (146 kmi) a 
damned fool destroyed for in Apr '16.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Randy Bennell via Mercedes" 

To: "WILTON via Mercedes" 
Cc: "Randy Bennell" 
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2017 4:42 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Too hot to touch



Start looking for a white one to swap it for.



On 06/07/2017 2:32 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote:
At Lowe's coupla hours ago, outside of Schwartze (my black '07 E320CDI) 
was so hot I could not touch it while moving from driver's door to trunk 
to remove and assemble mobility scooter I keep there.  'Had to ask 2 men 
nearby to help me move around left, rear corner of car.  I can usually 
hook ends my fingers into the space between rear "windshield" and upper, 
forward edge of the trunk lid to help me negotiate this corner.  'Called 
another man nearby to help me retrace the route when I returned to  the 
car.  'Have never seen outside of a car so hot before - not even in 
Mojave Desert.


Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] Too hot to touch

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Gloves?  Oven mitts?

-D 

> On Jul 6, 2017, at 5:58 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> Rattle can white paint all over it - - I hate black cars.
> 
> On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 3:42 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Start looking for a white one to swap it for.


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Re: [MBZ] Too hot to touch

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Rattle can white paint all over it - - I hate black cars.

On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 3:42 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Start looking for a white one to swap it for.
>
>
>
>
> On 06/07/2017 2:32 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> At Lowe's coupla hours ago, outside of Schwartze (my black '07 E320CDI)
>> was so hot I could not touch it while moving from driver's door to trunk to
>> remove and assemble mobility scooter I keep there.  'Had to ask 2 men
>> nearby to help me move around left, rear corner of car.  I can usually hook
>> ends my fingers into the space between rear "windshield" and upper, forward
>> edge of the trunk lid to help me negotiate this corner.  'Called another
>> man nearby to help me retrace the route when I returned to  the car.  'Have
>> never seen outside of a car so hot before - not even in Mojave Desert.
>>
>> Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] Car for Dan's offspring

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Sorry, no project cars.  Thanks!

-D

> On Jul 6, 2017, at 3:32 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> '95 E320, 174k, philly area, $1300.  Needs some cosmetic attention?
> 
> http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/2835625-f-s-1995-e320-174k-philadelphia.html
> -
> Max
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Re: [MBZ] Car for Dan's offspring

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Probably rusty, I've sent a private message.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On July 6, 2017 4:08:45 PM EDT, Donald Snook via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>So, it just needs a transmission?   Looks decent. 
>
>Don Snook 
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Floyd Thursby [mailto:buggeredbenzm...@gmail.com] 
>Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2017 2:45 PM
>To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car for Dan's offspring
>
>MAx is hot on this one. 
>http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/2848658-1994-e320-wagon-whole-part.html
>
>--FT
>
>
>On 7/6/17 3:32 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>> '95 E320, 174k, philly area, $1300.  Needs some cosmetic attention?
>>
>>
>http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/2835625-f-s
>> -1995-e320-174k-philadelphia.html
>> -
>> Max
>> Charleston SC
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>large or petty, never give in except to convictions of honor and good
>sense.
>Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might
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Re: [MBZ] PS hose repair?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Call them and ask.  You should be able to just give them the hose diameter and 
length to get a ballpark.

The low pressure (return) line is 11mm ID hose that’s available just about 
anywhere for cheep.  I think I bought a meter of it just recently form an 
online vendor for around $15.

-D




> On Jul 6, 2017, at 4:02 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The PS hose(s) are leaking on the SEC, new MB parts are $98/$63 H/L for new 
> MB parts.  How much might a repair cost on these? There are various hose 
> repair places around town like DP got his AC hoses fixed,   Wonder if they 
> would do it cheaper.
> 
> 
> -- 
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> or petty,
> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
> enemy.”
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Too hot to touch

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Start looking for a white one to swap it for.



On 06/07/2017 2:32 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote:

At Lowe's coupla hours ago, outside of Schwartze (my black '07 E320CDI) was so hot I 
could not touch it while moving from driver's door to trunk to remove and assemble 
mobility scooter I keep there.  'Had to ask 2 men nearby to help me move around left, 
rear corner of car.  I can usually hook ends my fingers into the space between rear 
"windshield" and upper, forward edge of the trunk lid to help me negotiate this 
corner.  'Called another man nearby to help me retrace the route when I returned to  the 
car.  'Have never seen outside of a car so hot before - not even in Mojave Desert.

Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] without comment

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 06/07/2017 3:09 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
https://jalopnik.com/france-plans-to-ban-sales-of-gasoline-and-diesel-vehicl-1796677036 




It will be like the old days. There will be horse manure in the streets. 
The Amish are ahead of the curve for once.




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Re: [MBZ] W126 AC Rebuild

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Last I remember I put it on the compressor first and slipped it on the crank 
pulley.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 6, 2017, at 2:32 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I remember it being a bugger to get over the pulleys on the SD but it was the 
> proper size
> 
> --FT
> 
> 
>> On 7/6/17 2:09 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote:
>> 300SD
>> 
>> The belt may be short, but by very little.  Came with the car.  It was 
>> living in the trunk and the only missing belt was for AC, so … must be AC?  
>> Same Conti as the others.
>> 
>> clay
>> 
>>> On Jul 5, 2017, at 5:41 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> What car is this? You should not have any trouble getting the belt on 
>>> unless it is too short or you have a pulley somewhere that is too big
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Jul 5, 2017, at 3:06 PM, clay via Mercedes  
 wrote:
 
 Thank you for the offer.  OE compressor and the system holds vacuum for 
 over 4 hours and was sucked down for 90 minutes, so bone dry.  I have the 
 belt that should fit (same as all others up front) I just can not get the 
 distance between spinners short enough to loop over the edge on the 
 compressor. Missing by half an inch maybe.  Might could use some sort of 
 lever to shoe horn it, but I have limited appendages and pry bar on the 
 compressor, hand on belt, is not allowing a spare hand to manipulate shoe 
 horn
 
 clay
 
> On Jul 5, 2017, at 11:34 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I can pull the pulley from my old compressor if you want it. Mine is a 
> Nippondenso, not an R4.
> 
> Lemme know so I can dig it out of the trash before Friday.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Jul 5, 2017, at 1:11 PM, clay via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I like this.  Gives me hope I can make cold in my w126.
>> 
>> The big trouble with Allen is getting the pulley on the compressor.  It 
>> just does not want to get there.
>> 
>> Polei is intact, just waiting for cfc
>> 
>> clay
>> 
>>> On Jul 3, 2017, at 2:07 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Picked up where I left off on Saturday.  Went to the hose place and got 
>>> humiliated….
>>> 
>>> It never occurred to me that the hose fittings are simply barbed 
>>> fittings with metal ferrules crimped on them.  As a result of this, all 
>>> that needed to be done to re-orient my hose was to put the fitting in a 
>>> vice, place a large pipe wrench on the ferrule, and twist.
>>> 
>>> < head slap >
>>> 
>>> So after that it was a quick trip over to the dealer to pick up some 
>>> plastic rivets for the auxiliary fan shroud to replace the ones that I 
>>> cut off or punched out when I removed it.
>>> 
>>> Got back to the ranch and installed the compressor, the rebuilt 
>>> manifold and the receiver/dryer.  With everything buttoned up I pulled 
>>> a quick vacuum on  the system, closed it up, and started my timer.
>>> 
>>> 15 minutes - still at 30” Hg
>>> 
>>> 30 minutes - 30” Hg
>>> 
>>> 60 minutes - 30” Hg
>>> 
>>> With these results I was pretty sure the system was intact, so I pulled 
>>> a vacuum on it for about an hour and a half to be sure any moisture was 
>>> boiled out of it.  I charged it to about 60% and fired it up.  It made 
>>> cold.  Not ice cubes, and I didn't expect them with this low of a 
>>> charge, but definitely making cold air.  I’m going to button everything 
>>> in the cabin up after replacing the foam drain tube and be done for the 
>>> day.  I figure I’ll sneak up on the charge over the next couple of days 
>>> to get the best efficiency out of the system.
>>> 
>>> While I was under the car I noticed the inside of the front tires are 
>>> wearing, so I’ll take the car over to my tire place tomorrow and have 
>>> them check out the alignment.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Car for Dan's offspring

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

So, it just needs a transmission?   Looks decent. 

Don Snook 

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Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2017 2:45 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car for Dan's offspring

MAx is hot on this one. 
http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/2848658-1994-e320-wagon-whole-part.html

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On 7/6/17 3:32 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
> '95 E320, 174k, philly area, $1300.  Needs some cosmetic attention?
>
> http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/2835625-f-s
> -1995-e320-174k-philadelphia.html
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[MBZ] PS hose repair?

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

The PS hose(s) are leaking on the SEC, new MB parts are $98/$63 H/L for 
new MB parts.  How much might a repair cost on these? There are various 
hose repair places around town like DP got his AC hoses fixed,   Wonder 
if they would do it cheaper.



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[MBZ] Generic Mercedes $4k

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https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/6189534362.html


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[MBZ] Klebmobile, KlebPrice, KlebKwality

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https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/6194037083.html


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[MBZ] Yo

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https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/6194332743.html


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[MBZ] crack

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https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/6204231031.html


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Re: [MBZ] Car for Dan's offspring

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

MAx is hot on this one. 
http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/2848658-1994-e320-wagon-whole-part.html


--FT


On 7/6/17 3:32 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

'95 E320, 174k, philly area, $1300.  Needs some cosmetic attention?

http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/2835625-f-s-1995-e320-174k-philadelphia.html
-
Max
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Re: [MBZ] Volvo phasing out gas and diesel cars soon

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Volvo are building a big new facility up the road to make SUVs and other 
vehicles.  I guess they will start cranking out electrified Volvos


--FT


On 7/6/17 3:28 PM, fmiser via Mercedes wrote:

Volvo Car Corp. has vowed to abandon the traditional gas-powered
internal combustion engine...
  

... it will only offer new hybrid or battery electric vehicles
starting in 2019.

Err, hybrids use internal combustion engines.


... completely phase out the gas-powered engine that has
dominated vehicles since Ford's Model T in 1908

I think it was the electric starter in the 1912 Cadillac that
allowed the gasoline engine to complete its dominance.  There were
a lot of Model Ts sold, though.

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Re: [MBZ] Too hot to touch

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

I'll give you $500 to take the trouble off your hands.

-
Max
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On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 3:32 PM, WILTON via Mercedes 
wrote:

> At Lowe's coupla hours ago, outside of Schwartze (my black '07 E320CDI)
> was so hot I could not touch it while moving from driver's door to trunk to
> remove and assemble mobility scooter I keep there.  'Had to ask 2 men
> nearby to help me move around left, rear corner of car.  I can usually hook
> ends my fingers into the space between rear "windshield" and upper, forward
> edge of the trunk lid to help me negotiate this corner.  'Called another
> man nearby to help me retrace the route when I returned to  the car.  'Have
> never seen outside of a car so hot before - not even in Mojave Desert.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Fw: 1984 mercedes benz station wagon

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I have a 617 in the 79TD I need to get taken apart sometime soon.   it 
is not turbo


--FT


On 7/5/17 4:57 PM, fmiser via Mercedes wrote:

Fred wrote:

Paatz?

Meade wrote:
With a generous helping of rust!

If it were free, it's so far away I couldn't afford it.. :(

But I'd sure like a good OM617.952 with an SLS drive.

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Re: [MBZ] W126 AC Rebuild

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I remember it being a bugger to get over the pulleys on the SD but it 
was the proper size


--FT


On 7/6/17 2:09 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote:

300SD

The belt may be short, but by very little.  Came with the car.  It was living 
in the trunk and the only missing belt was for AC, so … must be AC?  Same Conti 
as the others.

clay


On Jul 5, 2017, at 5:41 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:

What car is this? You should not have any trouble getting the belt on unless it 
is too short or you have a pulley somewhere that is too big

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 5, 2017, at 3:06 PM, clay via Mercedes  wrote:

Thank you for the offer.  OE compressor and the system holds vacuum for over 4 
hours and was sucked down for 90 minutes, so bone dry.  I have the belt that 
should fit (same as all others up front) I just can not get the distance 
between spinners short enough to loop over the edge on the compressor. Missing 
by half an inch maybe.  Might could use some sort of lever to shoe horn it, but 
I have limited appendages and pry bar on the compressor, hand on belt, is not 
allowing a spare hand to manipulate shoe horn

clay


On Jul 5, 2017, at 11:34 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes  wrote:

I can pull the pulley from my old compressor if you want it. Mine is a 
Nippondenso, not an R4.

Lemme know so I can dig it out of the trash before Friday.

-D


On Jul 5, 2017, at 1:11 PM, clay via Mercedes  wrote:

I like this.  Gives me hope I can make cold in my w126.

The big trouble with Allen is getting the pulley on the compressor.  It just 
does not want to get there.

Polei is intact, just waiting for cfc

clay


On Jul 3, 2017, at 2:07 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
wrote:

Picked up where I left off on Saturday.  Went to the hose place and got 
humiliated….

It never occurred to me that the hose fittings are simply barbed fittings with 
metal ferrules crimped on them.  As a result of this, all that needed to be 
done to re-orient my hose was to put the fitting in a vice, place a large pipe 
wrench on the ferrule, and twist.

< head slap >

So after that it was a quick trip over to the dealer to pick up some plastic 
rivets for the auxiliary fan shroud to replace the ones that I cut off or 
punched out when I removed it.

Got back to the ranch and installed the compressor, the rebuilt manifold and 
the receiver/dryer.  With everything buttoned up I pulled a quick vacuum on  
the system, closed it up, and started my timer.

15 minutes - still at 30” Hg

30 minutes - 30” Hg

60 minutes - 30” Hg

With these results I was pretty sure the system was intact, so I pulled a 
vacuum on it for about an hour and a half to be sure any moisture was boiled 
out of it.  I charged it to about 60% and fired it up.  It made cold.  Not ice 
cubes, and I didn't expect them with this low of a charge, but definitely 
making cold air.  I’m going to button everything in the cabin up after 
replacing the foam drain tube and be done for the day.  I figure I’ll sneak up 
on the charge over the next couple of days to get the best efficiency out of 
the system.

While I was under the car I noticed the inside of the front tires are wearing, 
so I’ll take the car over to my tire place tomorrow and have them check out the 
alignment.

-D



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Never yield 

[MBZ] Car for Dan's offspring

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

'95 E320, 174k, philly area, $1300.  Needs some cosmetic attention?

http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/2835625-f-s-1995-e320-174k-philadelphia.html
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[MBZ] Too hot to touch

[WILTON via Mercedes]

At Lowe's coupla hours ago, outside of Schwartze (my black '07 E320CDI) was so 
hot I could not touch it while moving from driver's door to trunk to remove and 
assemble mobility scooter I keep there.  'Had to ask 2 men nearby to help me 
move around left, rear corner of car.  I can usually hook ends my fingers into 
the space between rear "windshield" and upper, forward edge of the trunk lid to 
help me negotiate this corner.  'Called another man nearby to help me retrace 
the route when I returned to  the car.  'Have never seen outside of a car so 
hot before - not even in Mojave Desert.

Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] Volvo phasing out gas and diesel cars soon

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Volvo Car Corp. has vowed to abandon the traditional gas-powered
> internal combustion engine...
 
> ... it will only offer new hybrid or battery electric vehicles
> starting in 2019.

Err, hybrids use internal combustion engines.

> ... completely phase out the gas-powered engine that has
> dominated vehicles since Ford's Model T in 1908

I think it was the electric starter in the 1912 Cadillac that
allowed the gasoline engine to complete its dominance.  There were
a lot of Model Ts sold, though.

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Re: [MBZ] W126 AC Rebuild

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

‎Speaking of AC for W126, here's a new video from Pierre H.

‎https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RT9rj7anTc=em

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] W126 AC Rebuild

[MG via Mercedes]

The 617 has a small tensioner nut that takes a 10mm socket to 
release or increase the tension on the belt. It moves the 
compressor toward or away from the engine after you have loosened 
the holding bolts. You can see it in the manual pdf 83-522 on 
page 18 as nut 3 on clamping screw 4.  Check the part number on 
the belt and compare with the one sold by on line vendors to make 
sure you have the right one.


clay via Mercedes wrote:

OM617

I had to remove the PS belt and loosened up the compressor bolts enough to 
adjust position of the compressor.  There are no tensioner releases I know of

clay


On Jul 5, 2017, at 1:51 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
wrote:

Aren’t you using the belt tensioner release?

-D



On Jul 5, 2017, at 4:06 PM, clay via Mercedes  wrote:

Thank you for the offer.  OE compressor and the system holds vacuum for over 4 
hours and was sucked down for 90 minutes, so bone dry.  I have the belt that 
should fit (same as all others up front) I just can not get the distance 
between spinners short enough to loop over the edge on the compressor. Missing 
by half an inch maybe.  Might could use some sort of lever to shoe horn it, but 
I have limited appendages and pry bar on the compressor, hand on belt, is not 
allowing a spare hand to manipulate shoe horn

clay


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Re: [MBZ] Surprisingly nice 1990 SEC W126 coupe on BAT

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

The one I bought for cheepcheep is not too bad, it runs fine but has 
some neglect that could easy be sorted out with a bit of time and 
money.  But in the meantime I will drive it and enjoy it.  I like the 
body style a lot.


--FT


On 7/6/17 11:25 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:

W126 coupes are especially desirable these days. There is a subgroup of owners 
on Benz World that are pretty active, and they're always talking about values 
going up.

They never appealed to me, but I can see why they're well liked. You get a 5.6 
liter V8 in that car and it's a bit of a rocket ship with period luxury.

-D


On Jul 6, 2017, at 11:06 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes  
wrote:

WOW!  $12K for this with no a/c?   I guess BAT strikes again.  There is no way 
I would have predicted it to go that high!

Don Snook



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Re: [MBZ] W126 AC Rebuild

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

Sounds like it.

I was thinking about my diesel with the OM603. Piece of cake to swap a belt, 
takes all of a couple of minutes.

-D

> On Jul 6, 2017, at 2:13 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I bet you got the wrong belt. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 6, 2017, at 1:09 PM, clay via Mercedes  wrote:
>> 
>> 300SD
>> 
>> The belt may be short, but by very little.  Came with the car.  It was 
>> living in the trunk and the only missing belt was for AC, so … must be AC?  
>> Same Conti as the others.
>> 
>> clay


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Re: [MBZ] clock?

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 06/07/2017 11:01 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote:

And that name is painted on the face of the clock.

The later, identical-looking clock that is _not_ mechanical has "VDO
Quarz-Zeit"
painted on it.  I'll let you guess who made it.  (Though electronic, it is
not the
now-ubiquitous stepper-motor design.  It uses a quartz oscillator to drive a
bog-standard synchronous motor plug-in-the-wall clock mechanism.  It hums,
not ticks.)

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Re: [MBZ] W126 AC Rebuild

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I bet you got the wrong belt. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 6, 2017, at 1:09 PM, clay via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> 300SD
> 
> The belt may be short, but by very little.  Came with the car.  It was living 
> in the trunk and the only missing belt was for AC, so … must be AC?  Same 
> Conti as the others.
> 
> clay
> 
>> On Jul 5, 2017, at 5:41 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> What car is this? You should not have any trouble getting the belt on unless 
>> it is too short or you have a pulley somewhere that is too big
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 5, 2017, at 3:06 PM, clay via Mercedes  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thank you for the offer.  OE compressor and the system holds vacuum for 
>>> over 4 hours and was sucked down for 90 minutes, so bone dry.  I have the 
>>> belt that should fit (same as all others up front) I just can not get the 
>>> distance between spinners short enough to loop over the edge on the 
>>> compressor. Missing by half an inch maybe.  Might could use some sort of 
>>> lever to shoe horn it, but I have limited appendages and pry bar on the 
>>> compressor, hand on belt, is not allowing a spare hand to manipulate shoe 
>>> horn
>>> 
>>> clay
>>> 
 On Jul 5, 2017, at 11:34 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes  
 wrote:
 
 I can pull the pulley from my old compressor if you want it. Mine is a 
 Nippondenso, not an R4.
 
 Lemme know so I can dig it out of the trash before Friday.
 
 -D
 
> On Jul 5, 2017, at 1:11 PM, clay via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I like this.  Gives me hope I can make cold in my w126.  
> 
> The big trouble with Allen is getting the pulley on the compressor.  It 
> just does not want to get there.
> 
> Polei is intact, just waiting for cfc
> 
> clay
> 
>> On Jul 3, 2017, at 2:07 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Picked up where I left off on Saturday.  Went to the hose place and got 
>> humiliated….
>> 
>> It never occurred to me that the hose fittings are simply barbed 
>> fittings with metal ferrules crimped on them.  As a result of this, all 
>> that needed to be done to re-orient my hose was to put the fitting in a 
>> vice, place a large pipe wrench on the ferrule, and twist.
>> 
>> < head slap >
>> 
>> So after that it was a quick trip over to the dealer to pick up some 
>> plastic rivets for the auxiliary fan shroud to replace the ones that I 
>> cut off or punched out when I removed it.
>> 
>> Got back to the ranch and installed the compressor, the rebuilt manifold 
>> and the receiver/dryer.  With everything buttoned up I pulled a quick 
>> vacuum on  the system, closed it up, and started my timer.
>> 
>> 15 minutes - still at 30” Hg
>> 
>> 30 minutes - 30” Hg
>> 
>> 60 minutes - 30” Hg
>> 
>> With these results I was pretty sure the system was intact, so I pulled 
>> a vacuum on it for about an hour and a half to be sure any moisture was 
>> boiled out of it.  I charged it to about 60% and fired it up.  It made 
>> cold.  Not ice cubes, and I didn't expect them with this low of a 
>> charge, but definitely making cold air.  I’m going to button everything 
>> in the cabin up after replacing the foam drain tube and be done for the 
>> day.  I figure I’ll sneak up on the charge over the next couple of days 
>> to get the best efficiency out of the system.
>> 
>> While I was under the car I noticed the inside of the front tires are 
>> wearing, so I’ll take the car over to my tire place tomorrow and have 
>> them check out the alignment.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] W126 AC Rebuild

[clay via Mercedes]

300SD

The belt may be short, but by very little.  Came with the car.  It was living 
in the trunk and the only missing belt was for AC, so … must be AC?  Same Conti 
as the others.

clay

> On Jul 5, 2017, at 5:41 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> What car is this? You should not have any trouble getting the belt on unless 
> it is too short or you have a pulley somewhere that is too big
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 5, 2017, at 3:06 PM, clay via Mercedes  wrote:
>> 
>> Thank you for the offer.  OE compressor and the system holds vacuum for over 
>> 4 hours and was sucked down for 90 minutes, so bone dry.  I have the belt 
>> that should fit (same as all others up front) I just can not get the 
>> distance between spinners short enough to loop over the edge on the 
>> compressor. Missing by half an inch maybe.  Might could use some sort of 
>> lever to shoe horn it, but I have limited appendages and pry bar on the 
>> compressor, hand on belt, is not allowing a spare hand to manipulate shoe 
>> horn
>> 
>> clay
>> 
>>> On Jul 5, 2017, at 11:34 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I can pull the pulley from my old compressor if you want it. Mine is a 
>>> Nippondenso, not an R4.
>>> 
>>> Lemme know so I can dig it out of the trash before Friday.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On Jul 5, 2017, at 1:11 PM, clay via Mercedes  
 wrote:
 
 I like this.  Gives me hope I can make cold in my w126.  
 
 The big trouble with Allen is getting the pulley on the compressor.  It 
 just does not want to get there.
 
 Polei is intact, just waiting for cfc
 
 clay
 
> On Jul 3, 2017, at 2:07 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Picked up where I left off on Saturday.  Went to the hose place and got 
> humiliated….
> 
> It never occurred to me that the hose fittings are simply barbed fittings 
> with metal ferrules crimped on them.  As a result of this, all that 
> needed to be done to re-orient my hose was to put the fitting in a vice, 
> place a large pipe wrench on the ferrule, and twist.
> 
> < head slap >
> 
> So after that it was a quick trip over to the dealer to pick up some 
> plastic rivets for the auxiliary fan shroud to replace the ones that I 
> cut off or punched out when I removed it.
> 
> Got back to the ranch and installed the compressor, the rebuilt manifold 
> and the receiver/dryer.  With everything buttoned up I pulled a quick 
> vacuum on  the system, closed it up, and started my timer.
> 
> 15 minutes - still at 30” Hg
> 
> 30 minutes - 30” Hg
> 
> 60 minutes - 30” Hg
> 
> With these results I was pretty sure the system was intact, so I pulled a 
> vacuum on it for about an hour and a half to be sure any moisture was 
> boiled out of it.  I charged it to about 60% and fired it up.  It made 
> cold.  Not ice cubes, and I didn't expect them with this low of a charge, 
> but definitely making cold air.  I’m going to button everything in the 
> cabin up after replacing the foam drain tube and be done for the day.  I 
> figure I’ll sneak up on the charge over the next couple of days to get 
> the best efficiency out of the system.
> 
> While I was under the car I noticed the inside of the front tires are 
> wearing, so I’ll take the car over to my tire place tomorrow and have 
> them check out the alignment.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] W126 AC Rebuild

[clay via Mercedes]

OM617

I had to remove the PS belt and loosened up the compressor bolts enough to 
adjust position of the compressor.  There are no tensioner releases I know of

clay

> On Jul 5, 2017, at 1:51 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Aren’t you using the belt tensioner release?
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Jul 5, 2017, at 4:06 PM, clay via Mercedes  wrote:
>> 
>> Thank you for the offer.  OE compressor and the system holds vacuum for over 
>> 4 hours and was sucked down for 90 minutes, so bone dry.  I have the belt 
>> that should fit (same as all others up front) I just can not get the 
>> distance between spinners short enough to loop over the edge on the 
>> compressor. Missing by half an inch maybe.  Might could use some sort of 
>> lever to shoe horn it, but I have limited appendages and pry bar on the 
>> compressor, hand on belt, is not allowing a spare hand to manipulate shoe 
>> horn
>> 
>> clay
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Surprisingly nice 1990 SEC W126 coupe on BAT

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On July 6, 2017 at 12:26 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Styling isn't awesome but they ain't ugly either.

http://germancarsforsaleblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/1990-Koenig-560SEC5.jpg

http://germancarsforsaleblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/1990-Koenig-560SEC3.jpg

http://germancarsforsaleblog.com/1990-mercedes-koenig-specials-560sec-widebody/

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Re: [MBZ] "Collectible" 1979 coupe attracts little interest on BAT

[Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes]

No, it's some other guy on there.  I'm jaimekop, but I don't comment too
often

Jaime


On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 12:16 PM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I'll bet this goes over $4k.  "Jaime" is our Jaime?
>
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
> On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 10:32 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > And now, with a day to go on the auction, the seller is going to try to
> > resolder the CC amp?
> >
> > I think people are holding off on bidding until the condition of the car
> > quits changing.
> >
> > > On July 6, 2017 at 10:02 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > This W123 300CD lies at the bottom of the heap despite all the hoopla
> > about
> > > how collectible this model is or would become.  My theory is that they
> > > lack visual appeal.
> > >
> > > http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1979-mercedes-benz-300cd/
> >
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Re: [MBZ] "Collectible" 1979 coupe attracts little interest on BAT

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

I must be in the minority.  I really like the look of these.  

Don Snook 

-Original Message-
From: Andrew Strasfogel [mailto:astrasfo...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2017 9:02 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: [MBZ] "Collectible" 1979 coupe attracts little interest on BAT

This W123 300CD lies at the bottom of the heap despite all the hoopla about how 
collectible this model is or would become.  My theory is that they lack visual 
appeal.

http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1979-mercedes-benz-300cd/

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Re: [MBZ] Surprisingly nice 1990 SEC W126 coupe on BAT

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Styling isn't awesome but they ain't ugly either.

On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 11:25 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes 
wrote:

> W126 coupes are especially desirable these days. There is a subgroup of
> owners on Benz World that are pretty active, and they're always talking
> about values going up.
>
> They never appealed to me, but I can see why they're well liked. You get a
> 5.6 liter V8 in that car and it's a bit of a rocket ship with period luxury.
>
> -D
>
> > On Jul 6, 2017, at 11:06 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > WOW!  $12K for this with no a/c?   I guess BAT strikes again.  There is
> no way I would have predicted it to go that high!
> >
> > Don Snook
> >
>
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Re: [MBZ] "Collectible" 1979 coupe attracts little interest on BAT

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

I'll bet this goes over $4k.  "Jaime" is our Jaime?

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 10:32 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> And now, with a day to go on the auction, the seller is going to try to
> resolder the CC amp?
>
> I think people are holding off on bidding until the condition of the car
> quits changing.
>
> > On July 6, 2017 at 10:02 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > This W123 300CD lies at the bottom of the heap despite all the hoopla
> about
> > how collectible this model is or would become.  My theory is that they
> > lack visual appeal.
> >
> > http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1979-mercedes-benz-300cd/
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Re: [MBZ] clock?

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

And that name is painted on the face of the clock.

The later, identical-looking clock that is _not_ mechanical has "VDO
Quarz-Zeit"
painted on it.  I'll let you guess who made it.  (Though electronic, it is
not the
now-ubiquitous stepper-motor design.  It uses a quartz oscillator to drive a
bog-standard synchronous motor plug-in-the-wall clock mechanism.  It hums,
not ticks.)

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Re: [MBZ] Surprisingly nice 1990 SEC W126 coupe on BAT

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

W126 coupes are especially desirable these days. There is a subgroup of owners 
on Benz World that are pretty active, and they're always talking about values 
going up.

They never appealed to me, but I can see why they're well liked. You get a 5.6 
liter V8 in that car and it's a bit of a rocket ship with period luxury.

-D

> On Jul 6, 2017, at 11:06 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> WOW!  $12K for this with no a/c?   I guess BAT strikes again.  There is no 
> way I would have predicted it to go that high! 
> 
> Don Snook 
> 


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Re: [MBZ] Surprisingly nice 1990 SEC W126 coupe on BAT

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

WOW!  $12K for this with no a/c?   I guess BAT strikes again.  There is no way 
I would have predicted it to go that high! 

Don Snook 

-Original Message-
From: Andrew Strasfogel [mailto:astrasfo...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2017 10:42 PM
To: Donald Snook 
Cc: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Surprisingly nice 1990 SEC W126 coupe on BAT

Sold for $12,000.  Not chump change after all...

On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 2:26 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
wrote:

> Good catch.  That probably diminishes bids by $2k.
>
> On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 2:24 PM, Donald Snook  wrote:
>
>> It is nice.  Very nice.  But, I bet the line "AC does not blow cold" is
>> scaring off a lot of folks.   I would love to find a 126 Coupe in the
>> future  and this one is very nice!
>>
>> Don Snook
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Andrew Strasfogel [mailto:astrasfo...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2017 12:49 PM
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>> Subject: [MBZ] Surprisingly nice 1990 SEC W126 coupe on BAT
>>
>> Selling for chump change.  Auction ends today.  I saw no serious 
>> flaws and there are tons of records.  It looks good in white too.
>>
>> http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1990-mercedes-benz-560sec-5/
>>
>> I predict the hammer will come down at $7500.
>>
>>
>

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Re: [MBZ] "Collectible" 1979 coupe attracts little interest on BAT

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

And now, with a day to go on the auction, the seller is going to try to 
resolder the CC amp?

I think people are holding off on bidding until the condition of the car quits 
changing. 

> On July 6, 2017 at 10:02 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> This W123 300CD lies at the bottom of the heap despite all the hoopla about
> how collectible this model is or would become.  My theory is that they
> lack visual appeal.
> 
> http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1979-mercedes-benz-300cd/

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[MBZ] "Collectible" 1979 coupe attracts little interest on BAT

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

This W123 300CD lies at the bottom of the heap despite all the hoopla about
how collectible this model is or would become.  My theory is that they
lack visual appeal.

http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1979-mercedes-benz-300cd/
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Re: [MBZ] Kurley is moving to FL!!

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Are you now putting evolution in the same category as global warming? You 
really need to start taking your pills again. Next you'll tell us the world is 
5000 years old.
Curt

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  On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 3:16 PM, Curley McLain via 
Mercedes wrote:   "People who crusade against basic, 
established science concepts such as
evolution and climate change..."

Well, neither are basic, and neither are "established."  Therin lies the 
problem.  Fake "science" or junk "science" vs real science/reality.



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Re: [MBZ] Volvo phasing out gas and diesel cars soon

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Super clickbait...
Curt

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  On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 2:19 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via 
Mercedes wrote:   ELECTRIC VEHICLESVolvo bidding end to 
gas-powered engines

Published: Wednesday, July 5, 2017
[image: Volvo automobile on assembly line. Photo: Volvo.]

Volvo has vowed to phase out the internal combustion engine by 2019. Volvo

Volvo Car Corp. has vowed to abandon the traditional gas-powered internal
combustion engine within two years.

The Sweden-based, Chinese-owned automaker announced today that it will only
offer new hybrid or battery electric vehicles starting in 2019.

It becomes the first mainstream manufacturer to promise to completely phase
out the gas-powered engine that has dominated vehicles since Ford's Model T
in 1908 in favor of a technology that still represents a tiny share of the
global market.

Volvo announced it will launch five fully electric cars between 2019 and
2021. Plug-in hybrid cars that partly use petrol or diesel and electrified
"mild hybrid" 48-volt cars will complete the lineup.

Battery electric vehicles just cracked 1 percent of new car sales in the
U.S. last year. Hybrids accounted for 2 percent.

Automakers, electric utilities and petroleum companies are all betting the
share of electric vehicles will increase, though analysts disagree on how
fast that will happen. They expect the vehicles will get more popular as
battery prices fall, range gets longer and charging infrastructure builds
out. Automakers are also planning to pair increasing automation with
electrification.

Automakers also face increasingly tight sales and carbon reduction targets
in China, the European Union and the United States.

"This announcement marks the end of the solely combustion-engine-powered
car," said Håkan Samuelsson, Volvo's president and CEO. "People
increasingly demand electrified cars, and we want to respond to our
customers' current and future needs."

He reiterated the company's goal to sell a total of 1 million electrified
cars by 2025.

Volvo sold around half a million cars last year, more than Tesla's 76,000
but much less than the world's largest car companies like Toyota Motor
Corp., Volkswagen AG and General Motors Co., which each had around 10
million sales.

The mainstream, traditional manufacturers are also looking to electrify:
Volkswagen, seeking to put its diesel scandal behind it, has vowed to sell
a million electric vehicles by 2025. Ford, seen by critics as a laggard,
has promised to introduce more than a dozen electric models, including
SUVs. GM's Chevrolet Bolt was the first affordable all-electric vehicle
introduced to the market with a range of more than 200 miles. The first of
Tesla's Model 3s are expected to roll off the production line later this
week.
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Re: [MBZ] Kurley is moving to FL!!

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Thanks for sharing that Craig!

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 7:28 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

>
>
> https://www.technocracy.news/index.php/2017/07/04/fatal-
> courtroom-act-ruins-michael-hockey-stick-mann/
>
> Inventor Of Fraudulent Temperature ‘Hockey Stick’ Is
> Humiliated In Canadian Court
>
>
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