Re: [MBZ] Brits; what's wrong with these people?
Zeitgeist wrote: Watch this four part series of wonton Mercedes abuse at your own risk. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bIV_hHPAFQmode=relatedsearch= I get a private video message. Did I do something wrong? (mozilla firebird) When I d/l the link Levi provided, I got a 5 minute video that ended at what seemed to be the first commercial break, after a preview of a water trap and a monster truck.
[MBZ] W124.193 Rear arms
Gentlemen, I'm going to be replacing the rear arms on my wagon. I've looked at the manual and it sees pretty straightforward but I'm looking for anyone that's BTDT. Any gotchas to watch out for?? I assume all this work is done at full droop or horizontal, correct? (no load on rear suspension?) Thanks, Jeff Zedic Toronto 87 300TD
Re: [MBZ] Old rice burners vs?? (warning, rant)
And reverse was at the bottom on some models. On 7/19/06, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve MacSween wrote: on 7/19/06 6:44 AM, Mitch Haley at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What car goes forward at full throttle while the brake pedal goes to the floor, and magically fixes itself after the crash? The problem was eventually admitted to be that the european cars did not have the huge brake pedal that NA makes did, with the automatic. Actually there were also reports of Volvos in the same circumstances. But Audi for some reason bore the brunt. Jeep had its share of runaway-style accidents, too. User error, but probably aggravated by a feature of their design. If you look at some of the 1980s Cherokee and Wagoneer models, the pedals are shifted considerably farther to the left than most cars, to make room for the large transmission hump. That puts the accelerator in the same general area, relative to the steering wheel, as the right edge of the oversize brake pedal on most automatic cars. Side note...when automatic transmissions first became popular, there was a spate of accidents where people were in the wrong gear. They'd think they were in reverse, but were really in drive, and would push down on the accelerator until the car jumped the curb and hit something. This is what inspired the modern P-R-N-D-L shift quadrant, which puts a neutral gear in between reverse and drive. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- John Freer Palm Springs, CA 1992 500 SEL 143K Stardust 1996 Sidekick 57K Kermit 1992 500SL 108K Plum Crazy
Re: [MBZ] 420/560 ignition control module
Because they designed them that way. Same reason that my '90 300D 2.5 uses a different vacuum pump from the all the other 602 engines - both before and after. Anybody know why the ignition module would be different for a 420 and a 560? I dont see why they would need a different unit. Anybody? -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] I am in hell
Only 101? It's 107 here. I know it's even hotter in AZ I'm not complaining, just stating the temp so Kaleb doesn't feel so bad. Imagine it being 101 outside, unhooking the fuel lines from under the car, and having your arms and back covered with gasoline. That burns. Had to come in from a break but am fixing to go back out. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] Brits; what's wrong with these people?
Someone posted a link to a news story about an MB that was run over by a NATO tank (in Norway?) a year or two ago. The tank went over the drivers side - about one tread width. It crushed the car to the top of the door window sill. The driver and his wife were not injured. That convinced me of the structural integrity of the MB. On 7/19/06, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, they used a bit more than wontons on that car, I especially liked the energetic dissociations of various devices in the final reel. It was funny in one scene where the rear wiper was still trying to do it's job with the window missing, the hatch all bent up. If I ever get into a crash with a monster truck I want to be driving one of these cars (wait, I think I do). --R -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
[MBZ] Hey, what's wrong with this picture?
hmmm, I can't quite put my finger on it... http://houston.craigslist.org/car/177669215.html -- Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler #22 (216k) '84 300D (214k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K) http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG
Re: [MBZ] I am in hell
well I got the tank back in, put a couple of gallons of fuel in and fired her up. Then discovered the return line to the tank(the rubber part) is spewing fuel out. I knew I should have replaced that thing while i had it apart. So guess tomorrow going to have to unhook that and loose more fuel. OK Don wrote: Only 101? It's 107 here. I know it's even hotter in AZ I'm not complaining, just stating the temp so Kaleb doesn't feel so bad. Imagine it being 101 outside, unhooking the fuel lines from under the car, and having your arms and back covered with gasoline. That burns. Had to come in from a break but am fixing to go back out. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Hey, what's wrong with this picture?
that is very strange indeed Zeitgeist wrote: hmmm, I can't quite put my finger on it... http://houston.craigslist.org/car/177669215.html -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
[MBZ] Junkyard fun
So I'm at the U-Pull again today, and a guy asks me if I want to buy his '79 280E. Not I, I say. I recommended he pursue fixing its bad fuel pump and other little things before sale, as otherwise he won't get squat for it. He agreed. His wife hates the car, he loves it but it isn't his daily driver. Baby blue, cream interior, nice shape, low (I forget the figure) miles. And yes, I did forget an item or two at the yard. Dinky ones that aren't worth a trip. Crap. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Hey, what's wrong with this picture?
'96, not '86? -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Hey, what's wrong with this picture?
no, thats 124 interior, and 124 rear end it looks like, but 210 front end. Not to mention its pimped Jim Cathey wrote: '96, not '86? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
[MBZ] this looks nice?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-1968-Mercedes-Benz-250S-with-A-C-CHEAP_W0QQitemZ180009323481QQihZ008QQcategoryZ6329QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Rod Bender
Zeitgeist wrote: There must be a cutoff date for many of those things to appear, because I have an IP and turbo unit from a '90 or '91 603.97 engine, and none of their functions operate differently than my 603.96 engine. I'd be willing to bet the W140 w/603.97 engined cars all have the newer systems in place. The wastegate opens on '90s Mercedes diesels when there isn't proper EGR function or if there is excessive boost sensed at the intake manifold (I believe). In the '80s OM603.96 engines brought to the US the wastegate ONLY opened when boost pushed the wastegate open. LOTS of little differences. The computers are VERY different. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi (retired)
Re: [MBZ] Rod Bender
That's probably the case for the vacuum/boost controls upstream of the wastegate, but the version I have had a boost hose running directly from the turbo to the wastegate, and it allowed me to run over 16 psi boost--that is, before it began dumping copious amounts of oil into my exhaust stream (long story - bad rebuild). It's definitely a later model turbo because it doesn't have the ARV incorporated into the inducer housing. But like you said, there are lots of little changes between the engine series. I suspect those challenges are easily overcome by determined DIY-types, but the engines aren't direct drop-ins in any case. On 7/19/06, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The wastegate opens on '90s Mercedes diesels when there isn't proper EGR function or if there is excessive boost sensed at the intake manifold (I believe). In the '80s OM603.96 engines brought to the US the wastegate ONLY opened when boost pushed the wastegate open. LOTS of little differences. The computers are VERY different. Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler #22 (216k) '84 300D (214k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K) http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG
Re: [MBZ] I am in hell
116 on the way home today Bob in AZ - Original Message - From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 5:08 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] I am in hell Only 101? It's 107 here. I know it's even hotter in AZ I'm not complaining, just stating the temp so Kaleb doesn't feel so bad. Imagine it being 101 outside, unhooking the fuel lines from under the car, and having your arms and back covered with gasoline. That burns. Had to come in from a break but am fixing to go back out. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hey, what's wrong with this picture?
Yes, but it's missing the lowering job, and the tassel fringy things around the windows. On 7/19/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: no, thats 124 interior, and 124 rear end it looks like, but 210 front end. Not to mention its pimped -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] Hey, what's wrong with this picture?
I love the air freshener. Wonder if that came from Rusty or the local dealer? On 7/19/06, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, but it's missing the lowering job, and the tassel fringy things around the windows. On 7/19/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: no, thats 124 interior, and 124 rear end it looks like, but 210 front end. Not to mention its pimped -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. BIODIESEL -- no oil war required. 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle
Re: [MBZ] I am in hell
I thought you meant that you saw at W116...then I realized you meant the temperature. Good grief. Hopefully you have little to no humidity with that. 104 in KC today + some humidity...it could be much worse. Chris Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 116 on the way home today Bob in AZ - Original Message - From: OK Don To: Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 5:08 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] I am in hell Only 101? It's 107 here. I know it's even hotter in AZ I'm not complaining, just stating the temp so Kaleb doesn't feel so bad. Imagine it being 101 outside, unhooking the fuel lines from under the car, and having your arms and back covered with gasoline. That burns. Had to come in from a break but am fixing to go back out. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1985 300SD, 214K, Wulf -1982 300Dt, 117K, little blue klatter box -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, One Banger - Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Jul 20 03:23:23 2006 Received: from web30001.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.200.64]) by server8.arterytc8.net with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1G3P8F-0002gd-Hm for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Thu, 20 Jul 2006 03:23:23 + Received: (qmail 93380 invoked by uid 60001); 20 Jul 2006 03:23:18 - Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from [24.145.164.15] by web30001.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 19 Jul 2006 20:23:18 PDT Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 20:23:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.7.cp2 Subject: [MBZ] OT: the new VW Rabbit. X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.7.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 03:23:24 - I heard about it and here's the skinny: http://www.vwvortex.com/artman/publish/volkswagen_news/article_1727.shtml Nothing earth-shattering, just the latest Golf, called Rabbit for the US market. What I did not know was that the old rabbit was also a Golf everywhere else but US Canada. Chris Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1985 300SD, 214K, Wulf -1982 300Dt, 117K, little blue klatter box -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, One Banger - Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Jul 20 03:29:48 2006 Received: from mails10.megamailservers.com ([216.251.41.210]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.52) id 1G3PES-0003HK-9O for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Thu, 20 Jul 2006 03:29:48 + X-Authenticated-User: luther.gulseth.net Received: from 209-128-168-242.dial-up.ipa.net (209-128-168-242.dial-up.ipa.net [209.128.168.242]) (authenticated bits=0) by mails10.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k6K3TdvP006935 for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Wed, 19 Jul 2006 23:29:41 -0400 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 22:35:03 -0500 From: Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=iso-8859-15 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Opera
Re: [MBZ] OT: the new VW Rabbit.
You are still alive? Where ya been? Hopefully not making daughter #8! On 7/19/06, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I heard about it and here's the skinny: http://www.vwvortex.com/artman/publish/volkswagen_news/article_1727.shtml Nothing earth-shattering, just the latest Golf, called Rabbit for the US market. What I did not know was that the old rabbit was also a Golf everywhere else but US Canada. Chris Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1985 300SD, 214K, Wulf -1982 300Dt, 117K, little blue klatter box -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, One Banger - Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. BIODIESEL -- no oil war required. 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle
Re: [MBZ] OT: the new VW Rabbit.
Been busy...work, fam, tons of crap around the house. I look at the list daily, just not much time to read it. Spare time goes into sleep or German class/study. I like your new sig - BIODIESEL: No oil war required Chris LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are still alive? Where ya been? Hopefully not making daughter #8! On 7/19/06, Christopher McCann wrote: I heard about it and here's the skinny: http://www.vwvortex.com/artman/publish/volkswagen_news/article_1727.shtml Nothing earth-shattering, just the latest Golf, called Rabbit for the US market. What I did not know was that the old rabbit was also a Golf everywhere else but US Canada. Chris Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1985 300SD, 214K, Wulf -1982 300Dt, 117K, little blue klatter box -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, One Banger - Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. BIODIESEL -- no oil war required. 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1985 300SD, 214K, Wulf -1982 300Dt, 117K, little blue klatter box -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, One Banger - Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Jul 20 03:45:27 2006 Received: from tomts43.bellnexxia.net ([209.226.175.110] helo=tomts43-srv.bellnexxia.net) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1G3PTb-0004ln-0f for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Thu, 20 Jul 2006 03:45:27 + Received: from [192.168.2.10] ([64.231.44.121]) by tomts43-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.13 201-253-122-130-113-20050324) with ESMTP id [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Wed, 19 Jul 2006 23:45:22 -0400 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 23:45:22 -0400 From: Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Windows/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey, what's wrong with this picture? X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.7.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 03:45:27 - It is a 124 with a shitty looking aftermarket W210 front end. Sad ghetto boy must own it..hey baby, wanna ride wit me in ma benz? Jeff Zedic Toronto
Re: [MBZ] OT: the new VW Rabbit.
Christopher McCann wrote: Nothing earth-shattering, just the latest Golf, called Rabbit for the US market. What I did not know was that the old rabbit was also a Golf everywhere else but US Canada. Yup. Also, the VW Rabbit Pickup was the VW Caddy elsewhere, and the VW Dasher was the Audi Fox. The VW Fox was something else, too, but I don't remember what.
Re: [MBZ] OT: the new VW Rabbit.
The Fox was a Polo in europe Harry 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 21:12:43 -0700 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: the new VW Rabbit. Christopher McCann wrote: Nothing earth-shattering, just the latest Golf, called Rabbit for the US market. What I did not know was that the old rabbit was also a Golf everywhere else but US Canada. Yup. Also, the VW Rabbit Pickup was the VW Caddy elsewhere, and the VW Dasher was the Audi Fox. The VW Fox was something else, too, but I don't remember what. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Brits; what's wrong with these people?
On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 19:15:00 -0400 Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Zeitgeist wrote: Watch this four part series of wonton Mercedes abuse at your own risk. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bIV_hHPAFQmode=relatedsearch= I get a private video message. Did I do something wrong? (mozilla firebird) I saw the first two parts yesterday, but when I click on the link today I also get the private video message. Somebody must have changed something on the website. I saw a link on Drudge that takes one to http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9588_22-6095736.html which is a story about YouTube sued over copyright infringement. Maybe that has something to do with it. Craig
[MBZ] NorthWest MogFest 2006
Its nearly August, and time for the yearly spamming of all lists mercedes... Guess what! Yu are all invited to join us at NorthWest MogFest 2006, a private celebration of the *other* Mercedes collector vehicles, namely Unimog off-road trucks. In addition to the usual Unimogs you will also find Pinzgauers, Haflingers, Hanomags, Syncros, and other odd european off-road orphans. NWMF is in sunny Sheridan Oregon, about 1.5 hours west of Portland, this is a family-friendly laid-back get-together, more like a family reuinion than a car show or a jeep jamboree... Unimoggers are *at least* as weird as diesel benz people so you all will fit in just fine... More details can be found at http://www.northwestmogfest.com/nwmf2006/invite Or contact me offlist... See you all there! -Zach
Re: [MBZ] OT: the new VW Rabbit.
-1985 300SD, 214K, Wulf -1982 300Dt, 117K, little blue klatter box What happened to the old 1974 240D and the 1987 300TD? How cool to have a 300Dt with such low mileage on it. Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon 1981 300CD 204K miles, Giesela AKA Granny who will hopefully be getting some of my time soon
[MBZ] Mobil 1 Turbo Diesel Truck sighting in Oregon
Not sure if this is still of interest to anyone since there hasn't been a lot of oil discussion lately (who am I kidding?), but I saw the elusive Mobil 1 Turbo Diesel Truck today. This was at the big new G.I. Joe's (a PNW chain of sporting goods stores) on SE 82nd and Johnson Creek Blvd in Portland. $22.79 per gallon. Photographic proof attached! Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 07-19-06_1848.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 77179 bytes Desc: not available Url : /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20060720/3afb936a/attachment.jpg
Re: [MBZ] I am in hell
its 103 here with about 60% humidity, feels like 110. Christopher McCann wrote: I thought you meant that you saw at W116...then I realized you meant the temperature. Good grief. Hopefully you have little to no humidity with that. 104 in KC today + some humidity...it could be much worse. Chris Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 116 on the way home today Bob in AZ - Original Message - From: OK Don To: Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 5:08 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] I am in hell Only 101? It's 107 here. I know it's even hotter in AZ I'm not complaining, just stating the temp so Kaleb doesn't feel so bad. Imagine it being 101 outside, unhooking the fuel lines from under the car, and having your arms and back covered with gasoline. That burns. Had to come in from a break but am fixing to go back out. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1985 300SD, 214K, Wulf -1982 300Dt, 117K, little blue klatter box -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, One Banger - Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] I am in hell
Im going to find a bucket to catch it in this time. Luther Gulseth wrote: On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 20:07:15 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and loose more fuel. At $3.?? a gallon? Sounds like you have DEEP pocket books. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] OT: the new VW Rabbit.
no comment. kevin kraly wrote: -1985 300SD, 214K, Wulf -1982 300Dt, 117K, little blue klatter box What happened to the old 1974 240D and the 1987 300TD? How cool to have a 300Dt with such low mileage on it. Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon 1981 300CD 204K miles, Giesela AKA Granny who will hopefully be getting some of my time soon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] I am in hell
whereabouts is that temp? - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 11:05 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] I am in hell its 103 here with about 60% humidity, feels like 110. Christopher McCann wrote: I thought you meant that you saw at W116...then I realized you meant the temperature. Good grief. Hopefully you have little to no humidity with that. 104 in KC today + some humidity...it could be much worse. Chris Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 116 on the way home today Bob in AZ - Original Message - From: OK Don To: Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 5:08 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] I am in hell Only 101? It's 107 here. I know it's even hotter in AZ I'm not complaining, just stating the temp so Kaleb doesn't feel so bad. Imagine it being 101 outside, unhooking the fuel lines from under the car, and having your arms and back covered with gasoline. That burns. Had to come in from a break but am fixing to go back out. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1985 300SD, 214K, Wulf -1982 300Dt, 117K, little blue klatter box -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, One Banger - Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: the new VW Rabbit.
Any chances of a diesel engine appearing in the thing in the US late next year? I wish I still had the old Rabbit diesel I had 15+ years ago, that was one great little car ( the 60 mpg wasn't hard to live with either :-) -Robert Christopher McCann wrote: I heard about it and here's the skinny: http://www.vwvortex.com/artman/publish/volkswagen_news/article_1727.shtml Nothing earth-shattering, just the latest Golf, called Rabbit for the US market. What I did not know was that the old rabbit was also a Golf everywhere else but US Canada. Chris Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1985 300SD, 214K, Wulf -1982 300Dt, 117K, little blue klatter box -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, One Banger - Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124.193 Rear arms
It's pretty straightforward once you have all the parts in hand. Keep in mind that the original links have all been superseded to the new-style ones on the W210 and you'll need a bolt kit for the camber, thrust, and torque links. The toe link can be a bit stubborn but should come loose with a BFH. The rear axle must be level when torquing everything down. I did this by first measuring from the center of the wheel cap to the fender lip, and then raising the axle (underneath the spring arm) until the distance from center of the wheel hub to the fender lip was the same as my first measurement. -Aaron 1987 300D
[MBZ] Toyota diesels
Saw a 2002 Toyota RAV 4 4WD SUV listed as a Diesel at a Ford dealer in the Tampa Bay area. Couldn't find any reference to a diesel RAV 4 in old copies of Consumers Reports; only the gas burner version which gets 22 mpg. Would be interesting to know what kind of fuel mileage this diesel version gets, who makes the engine, and if new versions are available. Gerry Archer '83 300D and 240D
Re: [MBZ] OT: the new VW Rabbit.
Possible, on the VW website I frequent there are rumors of the diesel engine for the Rabbit. Most likeley it will be the same tdi they use in the Jetta and Beetle Harry 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: Robert Tara Ludwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 01:51:09 -0500 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: the new VW Rabbit. Any chances of a diesel engine appearing in the thing in the US late next year? I wish I still had the old Rabbit diesel I had 15+ years ago, that was one great little car ( the 60 mpg wasn't hard to live with either :-) -Robert Christopher McCann wrote: I heard about it and here's the skinny: http://www.vwvortex.com/artman/publish/volkswagen_news/article_1727.shtml Nothing earth-shattering, just the latest Golf, called Rabbit for the US market. What I did not know was that the old rabbit was also a Golf everywhere else but US Canada. Chris Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1985 300SD, 214K, Wulf -1982 300Dt, 117K, little blue klatter box -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, One Banger - Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] More Diesels from Damlier/Chrysler
There's a new commercial showing the supposed president of CD talking about upcoming diesel powered Jeep Cherokee, etc having the cleanest diesel ever made. Not many details but it looks like theres plan to offer more diesels - found this news release - - http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/reviews/healey/2005-03-31-liberty_x.htm Sorry if this is old news - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ .
Re: [MBZ] Rod Bender
Zeitgeist wrote: there are lots of little changes between the engine series. I suspect those challenges are easily overcome by determined DIY-types, but the engines aren't direct drop-ins in any case. I'm reasonably sure the long blocks are interchangeable. You either move the entire engine wiring harness (if going 126 to 126) or pull the IPs, manifolds, etc, and keep everything with the car but the engine. All those bits are newer on the 350 anyway, no need to replace them with 1987 parts.
Re: [MBZ] Toyota diesels
archer wrote: Saw a 2002 Toyota RAV 4 4WD SUV listed as a Diesel at a Ford dealer in the Tampa Bay area. Toyota sold an electric SUV in the USA at one time, I believe it was based on the RAV4. Never heard of a diesel Toyota SUV.
[MBZ] It couldn't be any hooter er hotter here.
Yesterday in Wichita, Kansas it was 110 degrees in the city - 109 in the suburbs. Today the weather is predicting 110 again. This sucks. Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 129K
Re: [MBZ] It couldn't be any hooter er hotter here.
Quityourbellyaching! That is normal weather for Houston for 9 months out of the year, 98 degrees F with 90 percent humidity. We are not in Hell, but you can see it from here. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 8:04 AM To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] It couldn't be any hooter er hotter here. Yesterday in Wichita, Kansas it was 110 degrees in the city - 109 in the suburbs. Today the weather is predicting 110 again. This sucks. Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 129K ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: the new VW Rabbit.
I gave the 76 240D to my friend. There is some dispute as to what was wrong with the TD. Suffice it to say, coolant was coming out of the engine where it was not supposed to...bad gasket, cracked head...swapped it for the 240D, which at least works. Kaleb knows the guy I swapped it with and supposedly thinks that it was a $10 fix, but I don't believe it...especially since he won't say what they think the problem is/was. Chris kevin kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -1985 300SD, 214K, Wulf -1982 300Dt, 117K, little blue klatter box What happened to the old 1974 240D and the 1987 300TD? How cool to have a 300Dt with such low mileage on it. Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon 1981 300CD 204K miles, Giesela AKA Granny who will hopefully be getting some of my time soon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1985 300SD, 214K, Wulf -1982 300Dt, 117K, little blue klatter box -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, One Banger - How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messengers low PC-to-Phone call rates. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Jul 20 14:12:59 2006 Received: from radius-82-150-131-253.dsdeurne.nl ([82.150.131.253] helo=ultimate-dj-gear.com) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.52) id 1G3ZGs-0007cY-Sy for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Thu, 20 Jul 2006 14:12:59 + Received: from 71.244.85.159 ([71.244.85.159]) by ultimate-dj-gear.com (Kerio MailServer 6.1.4) for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Thu, 20 Jul 2006 16:10:39 +0200 From: UDG - Joop Schmeitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 16:10:39 +0200 X-Mailer: Kerio MailServer 6.1.4 WebMail X-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.7.cp2 Subject: [MBZ] 300SD stopped after start and won't restart X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.7.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 14:12:59 - I haven't used my W116 300SD for a while. =20 =20 Started it today. It started right on but stopted after 15-20 seconds. W= on't start again. =20 =20 I had a look at the small filter just besides the hand pump. It is clear= and carries diesel. =20 =20 I handpumped for a while (stopped when I got a blister...) but no diesel= is coming out of the pump. =20 =20 What do I wrong=3F (tank is half full). =20 =20 Hope someone can help. =20 =20 JoopSter =20 =20 W116 SD '78, W116 SDL' 72 runs 6 cyl. TD 147PS from W124. MB A-class, MB= Smart. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Jul 20 14:46:56 2006 Received: from ms-smtp-01.southeast.rr.com ([24.25.9.100]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1G3Znk-0002Fg-1K for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Thu, 20 Jul 2006 14:46:56 + Received: from trampasx2 (cpe-024-163-121-050.nc.res.rr.com [24.163.121.50]) by ms-smtp-01.southeast.rr.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k6KEkng5019868 for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Thu, 20 Jul 2006 10:46:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Trampas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 10:46:46 -0400 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 Thread-Index: AcasBtFsIZ5+FcO2TTu7/8Ry0E8JNAABGOqQ X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SD stopped after start and won't restart X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.7.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe:
Re: [MBZ] Toyota diesels
what do you mean listed as a diesel? listed where? Its probably a typo, or its a grey market car. They did have a diesel in the UK but not over here. archer wrote: Saw a 2002 Toyota RAV 4 4WD SUV listed as a Diesel at a Ford dealer in the Tampa Bay area. Couldn't find any reference to a diesel RAV 4 in old copies of Consumers Reports; only the gas burner version which gets 22 mpg. Would be interesting to know what kind of fuel mileage this diesel version gets, who makes the engine, and if new versions are available. Gerry Archer '83 300D and 240D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] More Diesels from Damlier/Chrysler
They already have a diesel jeep liberty, the 07 will be cleaner because it will have a ton of emmisions on it and will have to burn that low sulpher crap. LarryT wrote: There's a new commercial showing the supposed president of CD talking about upcoming diesel powered Jeep Cherokee, etc having the cleanest diesel ever made. Not many details but it looks like theres plan to offer more diesels - found this news release - - http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/reviews/healey/2005-03-31-liberty_x.htm Sorry if this is old news - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] OT: the new VW Rabbit.
dan says he hasnt seen any coolant coming out of it yet. Christopher McCann wrote: I gave the 76 240D to my friend. There is some dispute as to what was wrong with the TD. Suffice it to say, coolant was coming out of the engine where it was not supposed to...bad gasket, cracked head...swapped it for the 240D, which at least works. Kaleb knows the guy I swapped it with and supposedly thinks that it was a $10 fix, but I don't believe it...especially since he won't say what they think the problem is/was. Chris kevin kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -1985 300SD, 214K, Wulf -1982 300Dt, 117K, little blue klatter box What happened to the old 1974 240D and the 1987 300TD? How cool to have a 300Dt with such low mileage on it. Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon 1981 300CD 204K miles, Giesela AKA Granny who will hopefully be getting some of my time soon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1985 300SD, 214K, Wulf -1982 300Dt, 117K, little blue klatter box -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, One Banger - How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 201 status
Yesterday morning it [AC system] still had a full vacuum on it. Looking _very_ good! Unfortunately the pressure switch doesn't seem to work, nor did the spare on the parts car. Went to the U-Pull and got the 190E's auxiliary fan and its pressure switch. Also picked up a headlight assembly, for merging with the one that's missing a mounting ear. (Cut and glue?) Got the headlight mount, too, the plastic one below the light, as one of mine is broken. I powered up the fan on a battery charger and it worked fine. However, the fan didn't install too easily because of the damage from that past wreck. It did eventually go in, and it doesn't even interfere with the condensor which is a bit of a surprise considering the condensor's bent-ness. One complication was getting the fan standoffs (which were also missing) in place: I dropped a sheet metal screw down between condensor and radiator where it lodged point-in. Each attempt to pry the two delicate items apart to look for or to try to retrieve it wedged it in tighter. It didn't seem to penetrate, however, and I was eventually able to fish it out with a magnet. I had to pull the headlight to route the wire, and it seems to me I should have gotten the headlight mount plastic top bits as well. Sigh. The pressure switch installed easily, and works properly. That, at least, is a relief. Using compressed air I got the other two switches responding, but I wouldn't use them except in an emergency. (Or at all if it cost more than $7 to charge the AC system.) Today... The AC held pressure overnight, so I started it up. What a drag, the auxiliary fan runs all the time and the compressor not at all. Time to dive in! The drier's switches for compressor and fan both seem OK. Off to the manuals, I guess. There are relays involved in both functions, it's not as simple as the circuitry in earlier cars. Using the ETM I tracked down the fan temperature sensor and unplugged it. The fan stopped. Great, a bad sensor. I took a small hammer and tapped on the sensor body with it reconnected and the fan shut off. I've seen this before, sometimes it's enough just to do that, the sensor is merely stuck and will behave itself in future. We'll see. I used a jumper to short out both the engine temperature sensor and the drier overtemperature switch. The former runs the auxiliary fan at high speed, the latter, low. Good. The fan system seems to be OK now, modulo that sticky sensor. Nah, that sensor's no good. Its other contact turns off the AC compressor, and it's stuck too. Unplugging it resulted in the compressor running normally. Banging on the sensor did nothing to relieve this problem. I have a spare sensor that I'd bought for my wife's 560 SL last year, which developed a stuck fan contact, but that problem cleared itself up before I could install the new sensor. It's been sitting on a shelf since, I'll probably put it in this car. The full-throttle switch atop the intake manifold also works to shut off the AC compressor, as it should. While doing this testing I noticed a large fuel leak out of the injector return line between #'s 2-3. That's new. I pulled it off and replaced it with new line. I started putting in a test charge of refrigerant. It fills slowly, perhaps because it's not too warm out yet today, or perhaps because there is a restriction in the low-side valving. (I've seen that before.) But I was able to get a fair amount of test refrigerant in there and I was starting to get reasonable pressures. Unfortunately my vent temperatures never got very low, and I thought I even detected some heat coming out the center vent. The sight glass showed plenty of refrigerant flow. (Very foamy, as is normal for this refrigerant.) So I pulled the access panels to the water valve and had a look. It's not always shut off properly. I don't know if it's a control problem or a vacuum leak problem, this will bear some looking into. I manually pulled the valve shut, and then I could feel the vacuum system kick in, but that never really changed anything at the vents. The water pipe remained pretty hot. I wonder if the water valve leaks? (I know it can take awhile to pull the heat out of the heater core at summer temperatures.) Gotta dive into that too. Only one of the horns works. Shoulda grabbed that horn bar at the U-Pull! Maybe I'll go back to get the horns, and have a look for water valves, etc. Must remember to grab the headlight mounting plastic bits too. Time for breakfast again! -- Jim
[MBZ] '79 240D alternator mystery solved (?)
I just talked to my Indy-'new' reman Bosch is on the green Goddess and it charges fine. They did tear this one apart and found the inside all corroded. He thinks it is because it has been sitting a lot her it the slat air since I bough the 300D 2.5t. I have noticed that under hood of my Forester and the 240D showing increasing white corrosion spots-esp. on the h aluminum. So I guess more Italian tune-ups on the 240D to heat up the alternator and engine compartment and to force air through to dry it up. Will pick it up today. Thanks to all who replied with good suggestions-I have saved them in case this reman bites the corrosion in a few months. Dwight Dwight Giles, Jr 1979 240D auto, 250K + miles 1990 300D 2.5t, 130K miles Wickford, RI Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co. - Just had the 3rd remanufactured Bosch alternator go out and need to be replaced on the Green Goddess.. This is the third one in a little over a year. I know Curt Raymond that problem with his 240D and Bosch reman alternators before he sold it. Anyone else have any experience with these? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '79 240D alternator mystery solved (?)
That is obviously salt air not slat air. Slat air is what you get when you run fast on the Bonneville salt flats. Sorry about the typo. Dwight Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dwight E. Giles, Jr Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 12:05 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: [MBZ] '79 240D alternator mystery solved (?) I just talked to my Indy-'new' reman Bosch is on the green Goddess and it charges fine. They did tear this one apart and found the inside all corroded. He thinks it is because it has been sitting a lot her it the slat air since I bough the 300D 2.5t. I have noticed that under hood of my Forester and the 240D showing increasing white corrosion spots-esp. on the h aluminum. So I guess more Italian tune-ups on the 240D to heat up the alternator and engine compartment and to force air through to dry it up. Will pick it up today. Thanks to all who replied with good suggestions-I have saved them in case this reman bites the corrosion in a few months. Dwight Dwight Giles, Jr 1979 240D auto, 250K + miles 1990 300D 2.5t, 130K miles Wickford, RI Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co. - Just had the 3rd remanufactured Bosch alternator go out and need to be replaced on the Green Goddess.. This is the third one in a little over a year. I know Curt Raymond that problem with his 240D and Bosch reman alternators before he sold it. Anyone else have any experience with these? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '79 240D alternator mystery solved (?)
There is such a thing as slat air but you'd have to be referring to an aircraft. On 7/20/06, Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is obviously salt air not slat air. Slat air is what you get when you run fast on the Bonneville salt flats. Sorry about the typo. Dwight Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dwight E. Giles, Jr Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 12:05 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: [MBZ] '79 240D alternator mystery solved (?) I just talked to my Indy-'new' reman Bosch is on the green Goddess and it charges fine. They did tear this one apart and found the inside all corroded. He thinks it is because it has been sitting a lot her it the slat air since I bough the 300D 2.5t. I have noticed that under hood of my Forester and the 240D showing increasing white corrosion spots-esp. on the h aluminum. So I guess more Italian tune-ups on the 240D to heat up the alternator and engine compartment and to force air through to dry it up. Will pick it up today. Thanks to all who replied with good suggestions-I have saved them in case this reman bites the corrosion in a few months. Dwight Dwight Giles, Jr 1979 240D auto, 250K + miles 1990 300D 2.5t, 130K miles Wickford, RI Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co. - Just had the 3rd remanufactured Bosch alternator go out and need to be replaced on the Green Goddess.. This is the third one in a little over a year. I know Curt Raymond that problem with his 240D and Bosch reman alternators before he sold it. Anyone else have any experience with these? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. BIODIESEL -- no oil war required. 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle
Re: [MBZ] '79 240D alternator mystery solved (?)
I was trying to think of where there might really be such a term-flying did occur to me although I know nothing about flying except as a frequent flier. Dwight Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LT Don Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 12:20 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] '79 240D alternator mystery solved (?) There is such a thing as slat air but you'd have to be referring to an aircraft. On 7/20/06, Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is obviously salt air not slat air. Slat air is what you get when you run fast on the Bonneville salt flats. Sorry about the typo. Dwight Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dwight E. Giles, Jr Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 12:05 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: [MBZ] '79 240D alternator mystery solved (?) I just talked to my Indy-'new' reman Bosch is on the green Goddess and it charges fine. They did tear this one apart and found the inside all corroded. He thinks it is because it has been sitting a lot her it the slat air since I bough the 300D 2.5t. I have noticed that under hood of my Forester and the 240D showing increasing white corrosion spots-esp. on the h aluminum. So I guess more Italian tune-ups on the 240D to heat up the alternator and engine compartment and to force air through to dry it up. Will pick it up today. Thanks to all who replied with good suggestions-I have saved them in case this reman bites the corrosion in a few months. Dwight Dwight Giles, Jr 1979 240D auto, 250K + miles 1990 300D 2.5t, 130K miles Wickford, RI Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co. - Just had the 3rd remanufactured Bosch alternator go out and need to be replaced on the Green Goddess.. This is the third one in a little over a year. I know Curt Raymond that problem with his 240D and Bosch reman alternators before he sold it. Anyone else have any experience with these? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. BIODIESEL -- no oil war required. 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] eba seller on crack
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=270009732640 bidding starts at $1500 and the reserve isn't met yet! -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (235kmi WVO/diesel mix) '82 300CD (160kmi) '82 300D (74kmi needs block or engine)
[MBZ] Priming the Oil System
I noticed that JB Hebert recently mentioned that he manually primed the lubrication system through the pressure sender fitting when he was ready to restart his 606 engine after working on the oil pump. His statement make me consider that maybe I should be doing something like this before I restart my 606 engine. What is the reason for priming? Are we worried the oil pump will not be able to develop suction? Are we concerned the bearings may run (kind of) dry for too long? Can anybody describe the procedure and equipment to do this? Would cranking the engine for a long time before it starts accomplish the same thing? Thanks for your help, Ned Kleinhenz '95 E300D x2 '85 300D '80 300TD
Re: [MBZ] 201 status
Jim eats breakfast at 11:45 AM, in case anyone has wondered. Nice write up Jim. Harry Watkins Newton, MS 86 SDL Silver 85 300D Euro 86 SDL Gold 81 240D manual trans Yesterday morning it [AC system] still had a full vacuum on it. Looking _very_ good! Unfortunately the pressure switch doesn't seem to work, nor did the spare on the parts car. Went to the U-Pull and got the 190E's auxiliary fan and its pressure switch. Also picked up a headlight assembly, for merging with the one that's missing a mounting ear. (Cut and glue?) Got the headlight mount, too, the plastic one below the light, as one of mine is broken. I powered up the fan on a battery charger and it worked fine. However, the fan didn't install too easily because of the damage from that past wreck. It did eventually go in, and it doesn't even interfere with the condensor which is a bit of a surprise considering the condensor's bent-ness. One complication was getting the fan standoffs (which were also missing) in place: I dropped a sheet metal screw down between condensor and radiator where it lodged point-in. Each attempt to pry the two delicate items apart to look for or to try to retrieve it wedged it in tighter. It didn't seem to penetrate, however, and I was eventually able to fish it out with a magnet. I had to pull the headlight to route the wire, and it seems to me I should have gotten the headlight mount plastic top bits as well. Sigh. The pressure switch installed easily, and works properly. That, at least, is a relief. Using compressed air I got the other two switches responding, but I wouldn't use them except in an emergency. (Or at all if it cost more than $7 to charge the AC system.) Today... The AC held pressure overnight, so I started it up. What a drag, the auxiliary fan runs all the time and the compressor not at all. Time to dive in! The drier's switches for compressor and fan both seem OK. Off to the manuals, I guess. There are relays involved in both functions, it's not as simple as the circuitry in earlier cars. Using the ETM I tracked down the fan temperature sensor and unplugged it. The fan stopped. Great, a bad sensor. I took a small hammer and tapped on the sensor body with it reconnected and the fan shut off. I've seen this before, sometimes it's enough just to do that, the sensor is merely stuck and will behave itself in future. We'll see. I used a jumper to short out both the engine temperature sensor and the drier overtemperature switch. The former runs the auxiliary fan at high speed, the latter, low. Good. The fan system seems to be OK now, modulo that sticky sensor. Nah, that sensor's no good. Its other contact turns off the AC compressor, and it's stuck too. Unplugging it resulted in the compressor running normally. Banging on the sensor did nothing to relieve this problem. I have a spare sensor that I'd bought for my wife's 560 SL last year, which developed a stuck fan contact, but that problem cleared itself up before I could install the new sensor. It's been sitting on a shelf since, I'll probably put it in this car. The full-throttle switch atop the intake manifold also works to shut off the AC compressor, as it should. While doing this testing I noticed a large fuel leak out of the injector return line between #'s 2-3. That's new. I pulled it off and replaced it with new line. I started putting in a test charge of refrigerant. It fills slowly, perhaps because it's not too warm out yet today, or perhaps because there is a restriction in the low-side valving. (I've seen that before.) But I was able to get a fair amount of test refrigerant in there and I was starting to get reasonable pressures. Unfortunately my vent temperatures never got very low, and I thought I even detected some heat coming out the center vent. The sight glass showed plenty of refrigerant flow. (Very foamy, as is normal for this refrigerant.) So I pulled the access panels to the water valve and had a look. It's not always shut off properly. I don't know if it's a control problem or a vacuum leak problem, this will bear some looking into. I manually pulled the valve shut, and then I could feel the vacuum system kick in, but that never really changed anything at the vents. The water pipe remained pretty hot. I wonder if the water valve leaks? (I know it can take awhile to pull the heat out of the heater core at summer temperatures.) Gotta dive into that too. Only one of the horns works. Shoulda grabbed that horn bar at the U-Pull! Maybe I'll go back to get the horns, and have a look for water valves, etc. Must remember to grab the headlight mounting plastic bits too. Time for breakfast again! -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 Turbo Diesel Truck sighting in Oregon
Can you send us the UPC code for this so we can look for it locally Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Not sure if this is still of interest to anyone since there hasn't been a lot of oil discussion lately (who am I kidding?), but I saw the elusive Mobil 1 Turbo Diesel Truck today. This was at the big new G.I. Joe's (a PNW chain of sporting goods stores) on SE 82nd and Johnson Creek Blvd in Portland. $22.79 per gallon. Photographic proof attached! Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (235kmi WVO/diesel mix) '82 300CD (160kmi) '82 300D (74kmi needs block or engine)
Re: [MBZ] Toyota diesels
This was a two page four color insert to the St. Petersburg, Florida Times newspaper. There were two diesels pictured in boxes with the word diesel in big artwork letters in the bottom of each picture: The 2002 Toyota Rav 4 and a 2002 Ford F-150 Supercab XLT. Since these sorts of publications are carefully proofread, I doubt it's a typo. It may be greymarket. I wonder if they're sold in Canada? If anyone is interested, the price is $13,999 and the Tel number is 727-233-8377. Gerry - - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Toyota diesels what do you mean listed as a diesel? listed where? Its probably a typo, or its a grey market car. They did have a diesel in the UK but not over here. archer wrote: Saw a 2002 Toyota RAV 4 4WD SUV listed as a Diesel at a Ford dealer in the Tampa Bay area. Couldn't find any reference to a diesel RAV 4 in old copies of Consumers Reports; only the gas burner version which gets 22 mpg. Would be interesting to know what kind of fuel mileage this diesel version gets, who makes the engine, and if new versions are available. Gerry Archer '83 300D and 240D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.1/390 - Release Date: 7/17/2006
Re: [MBZ] It couldn't be any hooter er hotter here.
Tom P. wrote: Quityourbellyaching! That is normal weather for Houston for 9 months out of the year, 98 degrees F with 90 percent humidity. We are not in Hell, but you can see it from here. That is exactly my point. If I wanted to experience Houston weather, I would live in Houston. Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 129K
Re: [MBZ] It couldn't be any hooter er hotter here.
We just want to SHARE our experience. :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 1:29 PM To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] It couldn't be any hooter er hotter here. Tom P. wrote: Quityourbellyaching! That is normal weather for Houston for 9 months out of the year, 98 degrees F with 90 percent humidity. We are not in Hell, but you can see it from here. That is exactly my point. If I wanted to experience Houston weather, I would live in Houston. Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 129K ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Toyota diesels
There was never any diesel RAV4 sold in North America. There are plenty of Toyota diesels sold in South America but I'm not sure about the RAV4 as it's only a city slicker SUVnthing that would hold up on the SA roads.. For that they have the Landcruiser diesels and the Kijang diesel. Not tomention the Hilux and Hilux Surf models. Toyota makes a decent diesel or the ROTW.they reverse engineered MB diesels to get theirsif you take a look under the hood of a Landcruiser diesel you'll see a nice copy of a OM615/616/617spooky! Jeff Zedic Toronto 87 300TD
Re: [MBZ] Toyota diesels
Since these sorts of publications are carefully proofread, I doubt it's a typo. I don't, necessarily. Seen plenty of errors in ad. copy myself over the years. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] 201 status
Jim eats breakfast at 11:45 AM, in case anyone has wondered. No, more like 8-9AM. It's just that I get up early, usually when the sun hits me in the eye. The real problem is, many days nothing much gets done _after_ breakfast! -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] '79 240D alternator mystery solved (?)
There is such a thing as slat air but you'd have to be referring to an aircraft. Then there's slut air, used for never mind. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] '79 240D alternator mystery solved (?)
Well according to my Indy-the regulator probably looked more like slut air had gotten to it. Just drove it home-fine so far. Dwight Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 3:20 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] '79 240D alternator mystery solved (?) There is such a thing as slat air but you'd have to be referring to an aircraft. Then there's slut air, used for never mind. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '79 240D alternator mystery solved (?)
Well according to my Indy-the regulator probably looked more like slut air had gotten to it. Just drove it home-fine so far. So _that's_ how you get a blown regulator. Whodathunkit? -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] '79 240D alternator mystery solved (?)
You just had to, didn't you? On 7/20/06, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well according to my Indy-the regulator probably looked more like slut air had gotten to it. Just drove it home-fine so far. So _that's_ how you get a blown regulator. Whodathunkit? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. BIODIESEL -- no oil war required. 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle
Re: [MBZ] 300SD stopped after start and won't restart
UDG - Joop Schmeitz wrote: I haven't used my W116 300SD for a while. Started it today. It started right on but stopted after 15-20 seconds. Won't start again. I had a look at the small filter just besides the hand pump. It is clear and carries diesel. I handpumped for a while (stopped when I got a blister...) but no diesel is coming out of the pump. What do I wrong? (tank is half full). Hope someone can help. Plugged tank screen, fuel line or the gauge is wrong and you're out of fuel! Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi (retired)
Re: [MBZ] 201 status
After breakfast, it's nearly beer-thirty, which necessitates relaxing the work schedule a bit. On 7/20/06, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim eats breakfast at 11:45 AM, in case anyone has wondered. No, more like 8-9AM. It's just that I get up early, usually when the sun hits me in the eye. The real problem is, many days nothing much gets done _after_ breakfast! Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler #22 (216k) '84 300D (214k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K) http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG
Re: [MBZ] Priming the Oil System
ned kleinhenz wrote: I noticed that JB Hebert recently mentioned that he manually primed the lubrication system through the pressure sender fitting when he was ready to restart his 606 engine after working on the oil pump. His statement make me consider that maybe I should be doing something like this before I restart my 606 engine. What is the reason for priming? Are we worried the oil pump will not be able to develop suction? Are we concerned the bearings may run (kind of) dry for too long? Can anybody describe the procedure and equipment to do this? Would cranking the engine for a long time before it starts accomplish the same thing? Mercedes diesels DO NOT require anything except that you don't drive until the oil pressure reaches 3+ bar. At cranking speeds, Mercedes has made provisions for there to be sufficient oil to be present even after you completely drain or suction the oil out of the engine and replace it by pouring into the valve cover or into the oil filter housing. If you've used a group IV synthetic there will be even less of a problem (MUCH higher film strength). Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi (retired)
[MBZ] Couple Questions
All, Any ideas on these would help: 1. The 82 300CD has a developed a nasty deep loud growly rumble during tight RH turns, worse when power is applied. Sound emanates from tranny area. No noise with LH turns. Is it differential, rear bearings, front bearings, flex joints...??? And the for the wiseguys on the list (you know who you are), I refuse to drive to work with LH turns only!! 2. The 85 300CD A/C compressor won't turn on. I tried the ACC from the 82 which works ok but it had no effect. What other switches should be checked? The A/C previously worked fine. Thanks, Bruce 82 300CD 334kmi 'His' 85 300CD 240kmi 'Hers' 75 240D 202kmi 'Donner' 77 240D 204kmi 'Blitzen' 73 220D 'It' - Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Jul 20 20:43:36 2006 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.172]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1G3fMt-dQ-PL for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Thu, 20 Jul 2006 20:43:36 + Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id u40so1005967ugc for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Thu, 20 Jul 2006 13:43:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.117.10 with SMTP id p10mr917654huc; Thu, 20 Jul 2006 13:43:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.134.2 with HTTP; Thu, 20 Jul 2006 13:43:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 13:43:22 -0700 From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.7.cp2 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 Turbo Diesel Truck sighting in Oregon X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.7.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 20:43:36 - Good idea, Luther. I should have thought of that. Will do next time I am near that store (probably within the next week). Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper On 7/20/06, Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you send us the UPC code for this so we can look for it locally Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Not sure if this is still of interest to anyone since there hasn't been a lot of oil discussion lately (who am I kidding?), but I saw the elusive Mobil 1 Turbo Diesel Truck today. This was at the big new G.I. Joe's (a PNW chain of sporting goods stores) on SE 82nd and Johnson Creek Blvd in Portland. $22.79 per gallon. Photographic proof attached! Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (235kmi WVO/diesel mix) '82 300CD (160kmi) '82 300D (74kmi needs block or engine) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Toyota diesels
archer wrote: There were two diesels pictured in boxes with the word diesel in big artwork letters in the bottom of each picture: The 2002 Toyota Rav 4 and a 2002 Ford F-150 Supercab XLT. Neither sold in USA with a diesel. (unless the Ford is really F250 or larger) Mitch.
Re: [MBZ] Couple Questions
Does the Compressor clutch engage with 12v applied directly to it? On 7/20/06, B Dike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The 85 300CD A/C compressor won't turn on. I tried the ACC from the 82 which works ok but it had no effect. What other switches should be checked? The A/C previously worked fine. Thanks, Bruce 82 300CD 334kmi 'His' 85 300CD 240kmi 'Hers' 75 240D 202kmi 'Donner' 77 240D 204kmi 'Blitzen' 73 220D 'It'
Re: [MBZ] Toyota diesels
on 7/20/06 2:01 PM, archer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It may be greymarket. I wonder if they're sold in Canada? Nyet, there were diesel pickups from Toyota at one time, here in Kanuckistan, but never a dizzle Rav 4. Mac
[MBZ] Pretty nice 123 Wagon on ebay item # 200009159058
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1982-MB-300-Series-123-Turbo-Diesel-Wagon -PRISTINE-CAR_W0QQitemZ29159058QQihZ010QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZVi ewItem This looks pretty nice, but I wonder why the engine was overhauled Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 129K
Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 Turbo Diesel Truck sighting in Oregon
Alex Chamberlain wrote: Not sure if this is still of interest to anyone since there hasn't been a lot of oil discussion lately (who am I kidding?), but I saw the elusive Mobil 1 Turbo Diesel Truck today. This was at the big new G.I. Joe's (a PNW chain of sporting goods stores) on SE 82nd and Johnson Creek Blvd in Portland. $22.79 per gallon. Photographic proof attached! NOTE that's $22.+ for 4 qts vs about $22 for 5 qt of 5W-40 Truck and SUV!! $70/barrel oil IS getting expensive! Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi (retired)
[MBZ] OT, cummins, experts chime in
Well I went and test drove a couple of dodge cummins today. First up was a 05 1 ton dually, long bed, 4 door, 4 wheel drive , with leaver in the floor for switching, with 6 speed manual. I liked it for the fact that it has the 6 speed, seems like it would get better mileage than the autos. It needs all new tires pretty soon, especially in the back and probably alignment. Rode like a 1 ton of course. Shifted good. Is a BIG truck. Seems like the rear end was howling. Are they supposed to howl on these? Price as 23k had 101k miles. Next truck was a 03 2500, short bed, electronic 4 wheel drive, automatic, 4 door. It had leather, rode smoother, didnt pull to one side. Price on it was 21.5k. I can say I REALLY love that cummins motor after driving one of them. What do you cummins ownere thing about this? Good prices? Keep looking? What kind of mileage will that 1 ton get with the 6 speed? Will it be worse than the other truck with automatic 3/4 ton? The thing that had me worried was the rear end howling on the other 1 ton truck. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] It couldn't be any hooter er hotter here.
Lets remember this in January when you're gloating... Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 08:42:25 -0500 From: Potter, Tom E [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] It couldn't be any hooter er hotter here. To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Quityourbellyaching! That is normal weather for Houston for 9 months out of the year, 98 degrees F with 90 percent humidity. We are not in Hell, but you can see it from here. Tom Potter - Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs.Try it free. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Jul 20 21:32:22 2006 Received: from wsip-24-249-104-140.ks.ks.cox.net ([24.249.104.140] helo=mtsqhexc1.mtsqh.com) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1G3g84-0005Fd-Ih for Mercedes@okiebenz.com; Thu, 20 Jul 2006 21:32:22 + content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6603.0 Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 16:31:22 -0500 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Re: [MBZ] Couple Questions Thread-Index: AcasQ9nZF15Wvv/uRKeq17qIcSHQVw== From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.7.cp2 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Couple Questions X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.7.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 21:32:22 - Bruce D. wrote:=20 =20 The 85 300CD A/C compressor won't turn on. I tried the ACC from the 82 which works ok but it had no effect. What other switches should be checked? The A/C previously worked fine. =20 No one should be without a/c this time of year. I will give $750 for it. Since it is labeled as hers in your signature line, does that mean it is the cleaner one?=20 =20 =20 Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 129K=20
Re: [MBZ] OT, cummins, experts chime in
Kaleb wrote: The thing that had me worried was the rear end howling on the other 1 ton truck. I am not an expert on these trucks, I don't know enough to be a novice, but one thing you said struck me. Didn't you say it needed tires? How do you know the howl is not tire noise. I had a howl from my old Chevy 4X4 and it ended up being the tires. 23K for a truck with 101K miles? I don't know how much these trucks are, but that sounds like a lot of dough for that many miles. I guess a lot of it must have been highway miles to put 100,000 miles on it in two years. Donald H. Snook McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn Herrington, P.A. 300 West Douglas P.O. Box 207 Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207 Tel. (316) 263-5851 This confidential message may be subject to the attorney-client privilege or protected by the attorney work-product doctrine. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify me.
Re: [MBZ] OT, cummins, experts chime in
Personally I'd go with the 05'. But then again I guess I'd want more info on the rear end... I know I've heard the newer models (like since 98) you have to be sure not to lose fuel pressure or they tend to take out the IP... I know what you mean about enjoying them... My dad's got a 97 or 98 Cummins Dually with a flat bed/side racks with dump. That thing just hauls. You throw a trailer that weighs a couple tons on there and a tractor that weighs another 3-5 ton or so on there and it barely cares As compared to his 05' 1500 with the 4.7l engine in it that won't hold 70mph in 5th gear going up a hill by itself. It's not a dog, 5th is a pretty high gear. But you throw JUST that trailer on the back and you can practically forget doing much in 5th unless there's absolutely no incline and no need to accelerate. That Cummins torque is addicting... Now if only I could get one in my Benz or something the size of a Dakota... (: Hey Mike, you ought to throw one of THOSE in your M37! Oh yeah my uncle (also named Mike) has like a 95 2500 Cummins chassis that he put on one of those like late 60's sweptline Dodge bodies on. Looks pretty cool. Apparently his has been upgraded though as his has a lot more top end pull to it. Sorry I'm not more help there Kaleb, but the mention of those Cummins really gets the AR AR (grunt grunt as Tim Allen would do) flowing! (: Levi On 7/20/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I went and test drove a couple of dodge cummins today. First up was a 05 1 ton dually, long bed, 4 door, 4 wheel drive , with leaver in the floor for switching, with 6 speed manual. I liked it for the fact that it has the 6 speed, seems like it would get better mileage than the autos. It needs all new tires pretty soon, especially in the back and probably alignment. Rode like a 1 ton of course. Shifted good. Is a BIG truck. Seems like the rear end was howling. Are they supposed to howl on these? Price as 23k had 101k miles. Next truck was a 03 2500, short bed, electronic 4 wheel drive, automatic, 4 door. It had leather, rode smoother, didnt pull to one side. Price on it was 21.5k. I can say I REALLY love that cummins motor after driving one of them. What do you cummins ownere thing about this? Good prices? Keep looking? What kind of mileage will that 1 ton get with the 6 speed? Will it be worse than the other truck with automatic 3/4 ton? The thing that had me worried was the rear end howling on the other 1 ton truck. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, cummins, experts chime in
Donald Snook wrote: Didn't you say it needed tires? How do you know the howl is not tire noise. I had a howl from my old Chevy 4X4 and it ended up being the tires. That's the annoying thing. It can go either way. I had a noise on an E150 once that I swore was tire noise. It sounded exactly like tire whine, and didn't change with throttle position, only with speed. It turned out to be the bearings in the rear end. If I were the one shopping for a truck, I'd use the noise to bargain the price down. Then I'd change the tires, and if the noise stayed, I'd start shopping for a junkyard rear axle. They go bad so rarely on most vehicles that the odds of finding a good one seem pretty good.
[MBZ] OT, cummins, experts chime in
Kaleb I'm a long waz from a cummins expert but...I really like my five speed,12 valve cummins. Dont need 4wd, extended cab or dually but I get 23-24 mpg towing cars which is what I was after. I do like the six speed trannys in the newer models tho, which might compensate for the more temperamental IP. The only thing I dont like about my 94 is that velour upholstery, miss that MT Tex . Happy truck hunting Regards Steve 85 Euro 240D, 5 spd manual, 110K 79 240D, 5 spd manual, 20K on eng rebuild 94 Dodge/Cummins PU, 100K 64 VW Bug 65 D15, AC tractor Message: 23 Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 16:20:59 -0500 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] OT, cummins, experts chime in To: Mercedes Mailing List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Well I went and test drove a couple of dodge cummins today. First up was a 05 1 ton dually, long bed, 4 door, 4 wheel drive , with leaver in the floor for switching, with 6 speed manual. I liked it for the fact that it has the 6 speed, seems like it would get better mileage than the autos. It needs all new tires pretty soon, especially in the back and probably alignment. Rode like a 1 ton of course. Shifted good. Is a BIG truck. Seems like the rear end was howling. Are they supposed to howl on these? Price as 23k had 101k miles. Next truck was a 03 2500, short bed, electronic 4 wheel drive, automatic, 4 door. It had leather, rode smoother, didnt pull to one side. Price on it was 21.5k. I can say I REALLY love that cummins motor after driving one of them. What do you cummins ownere thing about this? Good prices? Keep looking? What kind of mileage will that 1 ton get with the 6 speed? Will it be worse than the other truck with automatic 3/4 ton? The thing that had me worried was the rear end howling on the other 1 ton truck. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
