Re: [MBZ] License plate placement
ernest breakfield wrote: bent up on parking blocks? must be same dang big invisible blocks to reach high enough for that and still not be visible enough for a driver to avoid them,...! On mine the problem wasn't parking blocks, it was carwash brushes. They liked to grab hold of my front plate and bend it. I didn't have the proper bracket, though; after hearing what the dealer wanted for it (and resisting the temptation to ask if that was the price for the gold-plated version) I drilled into the bumper and used self-tapping screws.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Ebay Messages
Hi Dave, I have 2 items FS on eBay and have been getting emailed questions without a problem. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Dave Wakin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 9:34 AM Subject: [MBZ] OT: Ebay Messages Is anyone else having an issue lately with eBay sending messages to your email address? Since this past weekend, I am not receiving a copy of messages I send, nor the sellers response, to my email address. If I go to eBay messages, I can see them there, and I select the forward to email option there, and still don't get a copy. I am still getting my favorite searches emailed to me, as well as my daily status. Just no correspondence between myself and sellers. I have checked my spam blocker on the email account, and it is not catching the emails. Dave Wakin ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.9/458 - Release Date: 9/27/2006
Re: [MBZ] License plate placement
ernest breakfield wrote: front tags are very popular for evidence in traffic camera suits; a pic with a picture of your face and your tag visible on the front of the car is hard to argue with (constitutionality aside). Here in WA the traffic cameras generally aim for the back plate. They got around privacy concerns by decreeing that the cameras would *not* be allowed to include the driver's face in the photo. The ticket is issued to the owner of the car.
Re: [MBZ] License plate placement
David Brodbeck wrote: Here in WA the traffic cameras generally aim for the back plate. They got around privacy concerns by decreeing that the cameras would *not* be allowed to include the driver's face in the photo. The ticket is issued to the owner of the car. So if you really hate your neighbor, rent a car that looks like his, borrow his plate, and run a dozen pink lights. I'd gladly do that to any clown who voted to pass the law.
Re: [MBZ] Accelerator Control W124 '91 300D
Thanks Jim - WOW! Looks like a *lot* pages (148) dealing with testing the idle control. Well, I guess I need to see which pages relate to me and start studying them. I hope I can understand what they're suggesting and figure out if I have or can make the tools they're suggesting. This looks like a complex system. Maybe not - once I study the section that pertains to me. Thanks for finding the procedure I need to concentrate on - Have a nice weekend - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 10:28 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Accelerator Control W124 '91 300D I reviewed 30-1010 (sec 1. deals with my 602-962 engine - W124) and it's all mechanical. But there's an electrical connection on the plastic cam next to Try looking at 07.1-1120 -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.9/458 - Release Date: 9/27/2006
Re: [MBZ] Getting a New Windshield
Donald, I used Safelite Auto Glass to replace the windshield on my '87 300 SDL. It had a tremendous amount of pitting, several chips and stars, and the PO had let the wiper blades get so bad that they scratched an arc on both sides. At $196.50, it wasn't worth claiming against my insurance. I'm satisfied with the quality, and they came to the house for the installation on a Saturday. My 2 cents. James S. Jetton 1987 300 SDL 145k 1996 F-250 Powerstroke 178k Donald Snook said: Message: 7 Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 09:49:27 -0500 From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] getting a new Windshield? To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Is there any difference in aftermarket windshields or is all about the installer? I am thinking about getting a new windshield for my 1990 300SEL. It has one small star shaped crack, which doesn't bother me. But, it has so many tiny little sandblast marks on it that when the right glare hits it, it is very difficult to see through. I just brought my wife's explorer to get a new windshield for the same reason. I know other have this done on their Benzes and wonder how the replacements are holding up. This Kansas wind must be rough on windshields. Plus, I guess highway driving doesn't help either. Donald H. Snook McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn Herrington, P.A. 300 West Douglas P.O. Box 207 Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207 Tel. (316) 263-5851 This confidential message may be subject to the attorney-client privilege or protected by the attorney work-product doctrine. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify me. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Sep 30 00:01:40 2006 Received: from mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net ([69.17.117.7]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.52) id 1GTSIV-0003Lr-UU for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sat, 30 Sep 2006 00:01:40 + Received: (qmail 15635 invoked from network); 30 Sep 2006 00:01:30 - Received: from dsl081-164-043.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO ringbill.gull.us) ([64.81.164.43]) (envelope-sender [EMAIL PROTECTED]) by mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for mercedes@okiebenz.com; 30 Sep 2006 00:01:30 - Received: from [69.88.113.178] (helo=[192.168.1.105]) by ringbill.gull.us with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.51 (FreeBSD)) id 1GTSIJ-0009gg-K5 for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Fri, 29 Sep 2006 17:01:29 -0700 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 17:01:15 -0700 From: David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060317) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com References: !!AAAYAMcPXSWNNaFAnfjSlYqMSm/[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -4.7 X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system ringbill.gull.us, has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see [EMAIL PROTECTED] for details. Content preview: Mitch Haley wrote: David Brodbeck wrote: Here in WA the traffic cameras generally aim for the back plate. They got around privacy concerns by decreeing that the cameras would *not* be allowed to include the driver's face in the photo. The ticket is issued to the owner of the car.So if you really hate your neighbor, rent a car that looks like his, borrow his plate, and run a dozen pink lights. [...] Content analysis details: (-4.7 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description -- -- -3.3 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -2.6 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.] 1.2 AWL AWL: From: address is in the auto white-list X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] License plate placement X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.7.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] '75 280C
Don't think the 114 came with K-jet, only D-jet, which is a work of art and more efficient than K if set up right. Hendrik - Original Message - From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2006 7:32 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '75 280C Doesn't have dual carbs, has a four-barrel. Noted for being difficult to set up corretly. Much better would be a 76 or later with K-Jet. peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.9/458 - Release Date: 27/09/2006
[MBZ] OT: Linux recommendations
Sorry for the off topic post but I know there are more than a few of you who love to talk about this kind of stuff. My 10 year old tech geek is dieing to give Linux a try. Can somebody recommend a source to download a copy from. I've done a little research but would appreciate some input from somebody knowledgeable with Linux. TIA. Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Sep 30 00:52:53 2006 Received: from mail1.mx.voyager.net ([216.93.66.204]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GTT64-0008At-CP for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sat, 30 Sep 2006 00:52:53 + Received: from voyager.net (d159.as0.sfld1.mi.core.com [209.153.132.36]) by mail1.mx.voyager.net (8.13.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id k8U0qRY7098171 for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Fri, 29 Sep 2006 20:52:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 20:52:26 -0400 From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com References: !!AAAYAMcPXSWNNaFAnfjSlYqMSm/[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] License plate placement X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.7.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 00:52:53 - David Brodbeck wrote: That'd net him a fine of $1212, assuming you didn't get caught stealing his plates. ;) No license points, though. Since they can't prove who was driving there's no other penalty -- just a $101 fine. I see, just a tax on the owner with no proof of personal culpability, like a parking ticket. I was thinking it was a traffic offense. Mitch. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxylHPnoloI
Re: [MBZ] OT: Linux recommendations
rumor has it that Ralph wrote: Sorry for the off topic post but I know there are more than a few of you who love to talk about this kind of stuff. My 10 year old tech geek is dieing to give Linux a try. Can somebody recommend a source to download a copy from. I've done a little research but would appreciate some input from somebody knowledgeable with Linux. TIA. Oh boy... This is the oil topic of geeks!! Keleb even has a seperate list for those who can't keep quiet about it. *grin* There are hundreds of different flavors, or distributions. Each has an advantage, supposedly. A good place to find them is at: http://distrowatch.com/index.php?language=EN I have 5+ Debian computers. It is not the easiest distribution to install, but it is thorough and does well long term. (it's been 6 years since I re-installed to try to solve a problem) Mepis, Knoppix, Fedora, and SUSE are well regarded. -- Philip, geek
[MBZ] 190 for sale in a car lot
For anybody who might be interested, I saw a 1962? 190 today on a car lot in Helena, Montana. I walked around it and it looks to be reasonably all intact and in pretty decent shape all-in-all. Montana generally doesn't have a rust problem so if it's a local car it wouldn't be a factor. I didn't ask what the price was or anything about it because I really was not interested myself, but I thought tonight after I got home (100 miles away) that somebody elso on this forum might be. The place is called Planet Motors and their phone number is (406) 443-7173.
Re: [MBZ] Winterize your Benz cheaply
you have to be kidding, 42.95 for a monovalve insert? I thought those were $25 or so? Rusty wrote: Here are some great deals to get ready for harsh winter weather. 000 159 83 01 Bosch Glow Plug most diesels from 1981 to 1987 $10.95 Q 6 20 0009 Block Heater most diesels till 1991 $37.95 83522-70902 Redline Winterized Diesel Injector Cleaner $64.95 per case of 12 000 835 06 44 Mono Heat Valve Insert Kit most W107, w123, W126 chassis $42.95 0 130 111 103 Bosch Blower Motor (motor only) most W123 chassis $84.95 124 540 02 44 Coolant Level Sensor most W107, W124, W126, W201 chassis $8.95 123 501 02 15 Radiator Cap most Mercedes 120 Bar $4.95 83522-71203 Redline Diesel Anti Gel $71.95 per case of 12 Get'em while they last! Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. 1-800-741-5252 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 86 300SDL, 84 380SE, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] OT: Linux recommendations
We have a linux list btw. http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/linux_okiebenz.com Ralph W wrote: Sorry for the off topic post but I know there are more than a few of you who love to talk about this kind of stuff. My 10 year old tech geek is dieing to give Linux a try. Can somebody recommend a source to download a copy from. I've done a little research but would appreciate some input from somebody knowledgeable with Linux. TIA. Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 86 300SDL, 84 380SE, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Winterize your Benz cheaply
On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 21:15:54 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you have to be kidding, 42.95 for a monovalve insert? I thought those were $25 or so? His web site says, Our Retail Price Mono Valve Repair Kit Bosch$ 79.00$ 51.80 so $ 42.95 is a 17.1% discount. Craig
Re: [MBZ] 123 wheel covers FS
On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 15:10:54 -0400 wilton strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 5 123 wheel covers FS.Good cond. Make offer + shpng. What do you call wheel covers, Wilton? Hubcaps? I'll have to get someone to box em. Unable myself. Sorry to hear you're having those problems. Craig P.S. I'll get the trunk lid label off to you tomorrow.
Re: [MBZ] License plate placement
Actually, you're probably right. I'ts hard to picture a parking block tall enough to catch it. Whatever bends them, I see a lot of bent ones. On a related note, ever noticed how people (particularly women) scrape those silly plastic air dams on parking blocks? Then they usually go ahead and back up and scrape it back off right away. That would make me want to disappear. Stepping off my high horse, I must admit that I just scraped my wheel cover on the curb in front of my house. In my defense, I haven't parked this thing in front of my house that many times, and I like to get my cars as far toward the curb as possible, as it's a juvenile passtime around here to play baseball with driver side mirrors. Still, there's nothing funnier than that distinctive noise that those plastic air dams make. Brian Ernest wrote: bent up on parking blocks? must be same dang big invisible blocks to reach high enough for that and still not be visible enough for a driver to avoid them,...!
[MBZ] Mobil 1 0W-30
Don't strain a brisket - I'm not trying to start an oil thread. But here's my question: I've heard from the list that Mobil 1 0W-30 is one of the good weights to run in our diesels. Now how about running it in my gasser Saab? Though I'm probably going to have to sell the car for practical reasons next spring, I'm thinking about facilitating starting as I drive it this winter. On those colder days (like zero or so) it has taken a lot of battery to make the thing start. I'm hoping that Mobil 1 - and particularly zero weight Mobil 1 - can make those starts easier. Y'all think that will be the case? And is it safe to run what sounds to me like such a thin oil? If not, what weight would you recommend? Brian 83 240D 84 Saab 900
Re: [MBZ] Glass
PPG is and OEM supplier for Benz. As is Pilkington. RLE
Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 0W-30
And you are located where? On 9/29/06, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now how about running it in my gasser Saab? Though I'm probably going to have to sell the car for practical reasons next spring, ... -- Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish.
Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 0W-30
The Med City: Rochester, MN. Have an interest in getting your Saab on? Brian On 9/29/06, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And you are located where? On 9/29/06, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now how about running it in my gasser Saab? Though I'm probably going to have to sell the car for practical reasons next spring, ... -- Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 0W-30
Yes ... if we are talking Kleb prices. On 9/29/06, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Med City: Rochester, MN. Have an interest in getting your Saab on? Brian On 9/29/06, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And you are located where? On 9/29/06, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now how about running it in my gasser Saab? Though I'm probably going to have to sell the car for practical reasons next spring, ... -- Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Linux recommendations
On 9/29/06, Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have 5+ Debian computers. It is not the easiest distribution to install, but it is thorough and does well long term. (it's been 6 years since I re-installed to try to solve a problem) Mepis, Knoppix, Fedora, and SUSE are well regarded. Ubuntu Debian based, easy to install. They will even send you a full install CD for no charge to you if you don't want to take an hour to download it, etc. Probably be just the thing for a young person who knows about computers and wants to learn Linux. -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil.
Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 0W-30
Zoltan Finks wrote: Don't strain a brisket - I'm not trying to start an oil thread. But here's my question: I've heard from the list that Mobil 1 0W-30 is one of the good weights to run in our diesels. Now how about running it in my gasser Saab? I would not put Xw-30 in any of my MBZ diesels. Not sure if it would be OK in a CDI. I had perfect results in my old Saab with 5w30 back when 5w30 and 15w50 were the only viscosities available. 0w30 might be a hair better in winter, but your car will start easily in any weather with 5w30 in it, as long as the engine has good compression and the fuel system is working properly. Mitch.
[MBZ] Fuel Content in Oil
Howdy - I did an Oil Analysis on my '91 300D for the 1st time (I have a friend in the business) ;-) since buying it in Feb 06 - and the Fuel content in the oil is 3.1%. While that's well within the acceptable range I'd hope it would be lower. The question is, on a diesel with fuel injection, how can excess fuel get into the oil? Carbs can easily squirt too much fuel and it can get by the rings, but modern IPs are pretty precise. Just trying to understand if there's anything I might do - TIA - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/
Re: [MBZ] Fuel Content in Oil
The question is, on a diesel with fuel injection, how can excess fuel get into the oil? Poor injector spray pattern, possibly engine speed or temperature dependent. Leaky (internal) lift pump. Internal leaks in the injector pump, which shares the engine oil system. Just some guesses off the top of my head. I particularly suspect the latter, as some degree of leakage past pistons is unavoidable and thus 'normal'. The Ford system offers tremendous opportunity for fuel in oil scenarios. Just be glad you don't have that one. (In particular the early 6l motors.) -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Fuel Content in Oil
In a message dated 9/30/2006 5:43:12 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Howdy - I did an Oil Analysis on my '91 300D for the 1st time (I have a friend in the business) ;-) since buying it in Feb 06 - and the Fuel content in the oil is 3.1%. While that's well within the acceptable range I'd hope it would be lower. The question is, on a diesel with fuel injection, how can excess fuel get into the oil? Carbs can easily squirt too much fuel and it can get by the rings, but modern IPs are pretty precise. Just trying to understand if there's anything I might do - Larry, the first thing that comes to mind is a weak thermostat. Your engine must come up to temperature to help with complete combustion. Along with that, if you make a lot of short trips you will see a higher fuel content, as the engine does not get a chance to get warm. Finally, retarded injection could cause incomplete combustion. Chain stretch may be a factor here. Sounds OK though, Regards, Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 262 K miles 98 ML 320, 146 K miles
Re: [MBZ] Fuel Content in Oil
LarryT wrote: Howdy - I did an Oil Analysis on my '91 300D for the 1st time (I have a friend in the business) ;-) since buying it in Feb 06 - and the Fuel content in the oil is 3.1%. While that's well within the acceptable range I'd hope it would be lower. I thought YOU were in the business. I might be inclined to test the GPs, and maybe pop test the injectors or do a power balance check. A dead GP or misfiring injector could leave unburnt fuel in one cyl.
[MBZ] Repaired Windshield Washer Reserboir Leak
I thought some of ya'll might like an update on my leaking WW Reservoir. Some may remember I bought a new WW pump seal to sop a leak. Initially I put the seal on the bottom of the pump before pushing the pump into the reservoir. It still leaked. Next, I removed the pump and took the seal off the bottom of the pump. I then pushed the seal into the reservoir before pushing the pump into the reservoir. After 18 hour the fluid is still at the mark I put on the reservoir indicaing it has not leaked - I didn;t use any kind of adhesive as some suggested. In any case, it worked - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ .
Re: [MBZ] Fuel Content in Oil
Thanks to all who wrote so far -- I'll respond to your comments - Thermostat - new - replaced last March. GPs are new - replaced last week. However, one GP was definately bad - possibly 2, based on the pre-glow light not coming on until the engine fired up, then the light stayed on for about another 30-40 secinds or so. Short trips - very few - my wife drives the 300D to work 4 X's per week - 105 mile round trip. Before we bought the car it only had 99k miles on it - which is approx 6500 miles per year - but after 6+ months of these lengthy trips hopefully the bad aspects of those short trips are mostly behind it. It certainly drives much better now that it has these long trips under it. As far as chain stretch is concerned, - that's on the agenda to check next week - if stretched more than 4 or 5 degrees I'll replaced the TC. re: the comments about the Injectors --- this is probably something I may need to get someone to check for me. re: a friend in the Oil Analysis business - yep, I'm in the Oil Analysis business - it was a poor attempt at humor - Thanks for all the quick responses - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2006 8:51 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel Content in Oil LarryT wrote: Howdy - I did an Oil Analysis on my '91 300D for the 1st time (I have a friend in the business) ;-) since buying it in Feb 06 - and the Fuel content in the oil is 3.1%. While that's well within the acceptable range I'd hope it would be lower. I thought YOU were in the business. I might be inclined to test the GPs, and maybe pop test the injectors or do a power balance check. A dead GP or misfiring injector could leave unburnt fuel in one cyl. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.9/458 - Release Date: 9/27/2006
Re: [MBZ] OT: Linux recommendations
Ed Booher wrote: Ubuntu Debian based, easy to install. They will even send you a full install CD for no charge to you if you don't want to take an hour to download it, etc. Probably be just the thing for a young person who knows about computers and wants to learn Linux. I just upgraded to Mepis 6.0 which is based on the Ubuntu kernel, and I have had my disappointments. Installation of the official Nvidia driver, point-and-click easy with previous Mepis versions, now requires doing the apt-get for the driver and then the manual editing of the XORG file. There is no support for MP3s, necessitating the installation of various libraries before one can even play tunes [I expect having to download codecs for MPGS, Quicktime, etc, but this is becoming ridiculous.) Getting the scanner to work for non-root users requires creating a bash script, copying it to the init.d folder and linking to the startup scripts. GIMP is not installed by default. Mepis' claim to fame was that it just works but they are straying from that; does Ubuntu have the same issues? Lee
Re: [MBZ] OT: Linux recommendations
old computer books are economically worthless. some old computer books on linux will come with the linux disks. so if you go to amazon, you end up with linux discs plus a thousand pages of information on them for under 5 bucks delivered. then you have all the tools to make it work. On 9/29/06, Ralph W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry for the off topic post but I know there are more than a few of you who love to talk about this kind of stuff. My 10 year old tech geek is dieing to give Linux a try. Can somebody recommend a source to download a copy from. I've done a little research but would appreciate some input from somebody knowledgeable with Linux. TIA. Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Accelerator Control W124 '91 300D
After struggling with the idle speed dropping during braking, I realized I had disconnected my EGR a while back to see if I could get the improved MPGs and faster times. Today I decided to check and see what the result would be if I re-attached it. A quick test drive before my wife left for work this morning makes it appear the idle speed drop problem has been solved. While I liked the small advatnage having the EGR disconnected gave, I much prefer the smooth action of the idle like it is now. Oh well, we tried it and we prefer it this way. But I'll drive it farther tomorrow to make sure there's an improvement. So far, so good. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ .
[MBZ] The Supersucker
I made a supersucker using my 6 horsepower shop vac. It supersucked. Not in a nice way. The plastic buckets tended to buckle and collapse, which also caused the lid to bend, warp and split. The contorted bucket tended to splash the waste oil back up towards the vacuum nozzle, resulting in a bunch of the oil being sucked into the shop vac. I went through three buckets in the process of changing my oil, as well as making a complete mess. So, any advice on how to keep the buckets from collapsing? I am thinking about putting one bucket inside the other for added structural strength. A source for more durable buckets would also be welcomed. Lee
[MBZ] 123 wheelcovers/hubcaps FS
Yes, hubcaps. But they cover more than just hub; therefor, wheelcovers. Wilton
[MBZ] W123 Aluminum rims
Just curious... does anyone know anything about the aluminum rims that some W123s came with, what year, good and bad points?? I don't mean the alloy Bundts we are all familiar with, these Aluminum rims look just like the steel ones but have four dabs of white paint and are way lighter. I put a set off a parts car on my 79 240D and I swear, I can tell the difference. Regards Steve 85 Euro 240D, 5 spd manual, 110K 79 240D, 5 spd manual, 20K on eng rebuild 94 Dodge/Cummins PU, 100K 64 VW Bug 65 D15, AC tractor
Re: [MBZ] W123 Aluminum rims
on 9/30/06 11:26 AM, Van Cleve at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just curious... does anyone know anything about the aluminum rims that some W123s came with, what year, good and bad points?? They came on 240d w123s, and are IIRC .5 narrower than the steel rims. Highly desirable if you were running steel rims on your 240d. No downside that I am aware of, and YEAH what a weight difference over those steel rims. -- Mac Steve MacSween Aylmer, Quebec (Canada) Mercedes: '82 300sd / '82 240d (x2) / '60 220s
Re: [MBZ] W123 Aluminum rims
VC, MB did this in '81/'82 to lighten the overall weight. I have two sets, the 5.5 and the 6 width. One set has the four silver strips and the other has the full circle silver ring. MB had a special wheel cover clip with a nylon cover to keep from damaging the soft aluminum wheel where the cover snaps on. Robby Ackerman put a set on his 190SL and painted them the Pea Green color of the car. He also put the three 'keepers' that the small original hub caps snap onto. I spotted them the first time I saw the 190SL because of the 'holes' in the wheels. BTW, they are light in weight. DWS Van Cleve wrote: Just curious... does anyone know anything about the aluminum rims that some W123s came with, what year, good and bad points?? I don't mean the alloy Bundts we are all familiar with, these Aluminum rims look just like the steel ones but have four dabs of white paint and are way lighter. I put a set off a parts car on my 79 240D and I swear, I can tell the difference. Regards Steve 85 Euro 240D, 5 spd manual, 110K 79 240D, 5 spd manual, 20K on eng rebuild 94 Dodge/Cummins PU, 100K 64 VW Bug 65 D15, AC tractor ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The Supersucker
Lee, use a smaller vacuum so the pull is less and doesn't suck the bucket in. DWS Lee Einer wrote: I made a supersucker using my 6 horsepower shop vac. It supersucked. Not in a nice way. The plastic buckets tended to buckle and collapse, which also caused the lid to bend, warp and split. The contorted bucket tended to splash the waste oil back up towards the vacuum nozzle, resulting in a bunch of the oil being sucked into the shop vac. I went through three buckets in the process of changing my oil, as well as making a complete mess. So, any advice on how to keep the buckets from collapsing? I am thinking about putting one bucket inside the other for added structural strength. A source for more durable buckets would also be welcomed. Lee ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The Supersucker
I haven't done it yet, but I only have easy access to empty detergent buckets, and they aren't very strong. I'm planning to make a cross brace out of small PVC pipe and a cross or X fitting to wedge near the center inside the bucket, hoping that it will provide enough support to keep the sides from collapsing. After reading about your top breaking, perhaps a vertical tube to support the top is in order as well. Remember, I have not tried this yet --- So, any advice on how to keep the buckets from collapsing? I am thinking about putting one bucket inside the other for added structural strength. A source for more durable buckets would also be welcomed. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 0W-30
Allright, thanks Mitch. 'preciate the tip. Brian On 9/30/06, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Zoltan Finks wrote: Don't strain a brisket - I'm not trying to start an oil thread. But here's my question: I've heard from the list that Mobil 1 0W-30 is one of the good weights to run in our diesels. Now how about running it in my gasser Saab? I would not put Xw-30 in any of my MBZ diesels. Not sure if it would be OK in a CDI. I had perfect results in my old Saab with 5w30 back when 5w30 and 15w50 were the only viscosities available. 0w30 might be a hair better in winter, but your car will start easily in any weather with 5w30 in it, as long as the engine has good compression and the fuel system is working properly. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The Supersucker
Get an old helium tank or propane tank (but be very careful with the propane tank -- residual vapors, fill it with water if you go drilling on it) and use that for your reservoir. I use both my big shop vac and a smaller one, they both pull enough that the oil can be sucked out in one beer. I use a plastic gas can, it gets sucked up but no oil leaves it. A visual indication of the sucker at work. --R Lee Einer wrote: I made a supersucker using my 6 horsepower shop vac. It supersucked. Not in a nice way. The plastic buckets tended to buckle and collapse, which also caused the lid to bend, warp and split. The contorted bucket tended to splash the waste oil back up towards the vacuum nozzle, resulting in a bunch of the oil being sucked into the shop vac. I went through three buckets in the process of changing my oil, as well as making a complete mess. So, any advice on how to keep the buckets from collapsing? I am thinking about putting one bucket inside the other for added structural strength. A source for more durable buckets would also be welcomed. Lee ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Linux recommendations
Thanks for the suggestions. I guess I'll check out the Linux list if I have any more questions and leave this list for MB's. Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 10:19 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Linux recommendations We have a linux list btw. http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/linux_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '75 280C
D-Jet on a six is very rare in the US, all the examples I know of are grey market, not officially imported. Carbs up to K-Jet, in 1976. D-jet is NOT more efficient, it's actually very difficult to get it set up to give correct CO at idle and acceptably rich mixture at high rpm/light load -- there is a reason MB switched to K-Jet (mainly emissions). D-Jet would have fried a catalytic converter in no time! For those brave enough, K-jet equipped M110s aren't all that uncommon, and the only major change needed is to swap the fuel pump, beef up the fuel lines to handle 90 psi, and wire in the cold start system -- everything else is on the engine. Peter
Re: [MBZ] OT: Linux recommendations
Gnopix and Umbutu are stick the disk in and boot installations, both with automatically configure to your system and equipment. Quite an astonishing change from XP -- boots much faster, and is usually quicker than windows at most tasks. Either can be downloaded, or better spend a couple bucks and buy a DVD. Peter
[MBZ] Will 15 wheels from 1997 C230 fit 1987 300D turbo?
Hello... I found a set of 15 stock wheels from a 1997 C230 (but the guy can't find any info on the inside of the rim) and would like to use these on my 1987 300D turbo. Are they compatable? Thanks, Richard Fine 1987 300D turbo From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Sep 30 17:50:02 2006 Received: from pop-siberian.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([207.69.195.71]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GTiyQ-0007aj-EP for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sat, 30 Sep 2006 17:50:02 + Received: from dialup-4.224.207.2.dial1.cincinnati1.level3.net ([4.224.207.2]) by pop-siberian.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1GTiyL-00061H-00 for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sat, 30 Sep 2006 13:49:58 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 12:44:02 -0500 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 0W-30 X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.7.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 17:50:02 - 0 weight oils are too thin, in my humble opinion, for any diesel. Too much pressure on the journal on the compression stroke, not enough film strength, even for a synthetic like Mobil 1 The difference between dino and synthetics is huge, the difference in cold viscosity of synthetics is fairly small. I believe the 0 weight oils are intended to give small gasoline engines a bit better milage from lower oil pump resistance, not something I'd like to try in a diesel! Just my opinion. I tend to use 5W40 or 5W50 Truck and SUV or 15W50 Mobil 1 in the summer and 5W40 in the winter, but if I need to change the oil and can only find 15W50 in the winter, I use it. Hard starts are usually not helped by lower viscosity oil unless you have fairly high viscosity dino in the crankcase -- I've seen an engine that simple would not crank at all in the winter with 50 wt in there to hide a bad bearing Peter
Re: [MBZ] Fuel Content in Oil
Lots of possibilities! Worst case is a leaking injection pump, requiring rebuild, but that won't be 3% very long more like 50%. Unless you are making oil (level rises on dipstick!), not a worry. There is always some unburned fuel that gets into the crankcase when you start a cold engine, and if it runs rough there will be more (longer running with poor combustion and extra fuel injected). Ditto for any other condition that allows or causes poor combustion (low compression, late injection and/or valve timing, poor nozzle condition, etc). Not getting the engine fully warmed up and the oil hot will also allow it to accumulate. You will also have high water content under those conditions. If it's within specs, see what it is next time. If it goes up, time to search, if not, it's fine. Peter
Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 0W-30
I, too, had shared this concern, until I read somewhere that the higher number is the real viscosity, and the lower number is how the oil reacts in cold temperatures. That is, a 0W40 oil is a 40 wt. oil, that maintains a viscosity similar to a 0 wt. oil at 0 degrees C., or something like that -- it doesn't get as thick as a 40 wt. oil would at that temp., it's as thick as a 0 wt. oil would be at that temp. Please correct if I'm wrong --- On 9/30/06, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 0 weight oils are too thin, in my humble opinion, for any diesel. Too much pressure on the journal on the compression stroke, not enough film strength, even for a synthetic like Mobil 1 The difference between dino and synthetics is huge, the difference in cold viscosity of synthetics is fairly small. I believe the 0 weight oils are intended to give small gasoline engines a bit better milage from lower oil pump resistance, not something I'd like to try in a diesel! Just my opinion. I tend to use 5W40 or 5W50 Truck and SUV or 15W50 Mobil 1 in the summer and 5W40 in the winter, but if I need to change the oil and can only find 15W50 in the winter, I use it. Hard starts are usually not helped by lower viscosity oil unless you have fairly high viscosity dino in the crankcase -- I've seen an engine that simple would not crank at all in the winter with 50 wt in there to hide a bad bearing Peter -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] Fuel Content in Oil
Larry - did you change the oil when you bought the car, or is still running the oil that the PO put in it? If it's still the PO's oil, it will reflect his/her driving habits (could be a lot of short trips). FWIW, the fuel content in the oil in two samples from the SDL at over 10K miles each, was 1%, as was the 240D at 5k miles. The SDL was driven 40 miles per day, while the 240D was driven locally - lots of short trips. The SDL engine is most similar to yours. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] W123 Aluminum rims
Darrell Thanks for the info. I just went out to check my newest parts car, an automatic, 82, 240D. It has them (no white or silver markings tho) including the wheel covers with the rollers..yaahoo. I also have another parts car with the rims that have the holes all around but they are steel, That must have been the new style (after 81+-) and only the aluminum ones used the wheel cover clips with the rollers. What is the deal with the 5.5 vrs the 6 width, I assume the wider one for the bigger MBs and would'nt be found on a 240? Regards Steve Message: 14 Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 11:39:15 -0400 From: Darrell W. Sigmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 Aluminum rims To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed VC, MB did this in '81/'82 to lighten the overall weight. I have two sets, the 5.5 and the 6 width. One set has the four silver strips and the other has the full circle silver ring. MB had a special wheel cover clip with a nylon cover to keep from damaging the soft aluminum wheel where the cover snaps on. Robby Ackerman put a set on his 190SL and painted them the Pea Green color of the car. He also put the three 'keepers' that the small original hub caps snap onto. I spotted them the first time I saw the 190SL because of the 'holes' in the wheels. BTW, they are light in weight. DWS Van Cleve wrote: Just curious... does anyone know anything about the aluminum rims that some W123s came with, what year, good and bad points?? I don't mean the alloy Bundts we are all familiar with, these Aluminum rims look just like the steel ones but have four dabs of white paint and are way lighter. I put a set off a parts car on my 79 240D and I swear, I can tell the difference. Regards Steve 85 Euro 240D, 5 spd manual, 110K 79 240D, 5 spd manual, 20K on eng rebuild 94 Dodge/Cummins PU, 100K 64 VW Bug 65 D15, AC tractor
Re: [MBZ] W123 Aluminum rims
They came on 240d w123s, and are IIRC .5 narrower than the steel rims. That seems odd, I wonder why they did that, anyway thanks for the info. I was pleased to see I had another set which will go on my Euro 85 :-) Regards Steve Message: 13 Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 11:32:45 -0400 From: Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 Aluminum rims To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII on 9/30/06 11:26 AM, Van Cleve at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just curious... does anyone know anything about the aluminum rims that some W123s came with, what year, good and bad points?? They came on 240d w123s, and are IIRC .5 narrower than the steel rims. Highly desirable if you were running steel rims on your 240d. No downside that I am aware of, and YEAH what a weight difference over those steel rims. -- Mac Steve MacSween Aylmer, Quebec (Canada) Mercedes: '82 300sd / '82 240d (x2) / '60 220s
[MBZ] Supersucker
1. Have eng at operatng temp. 2. Use 5/8 OD tube in TOP only of dipstick tube, not small tube into pan. 3. REDUCE VACUUM. It doesn't take much. Vent vac hose if necessay to reduce vac. 4. Us oil evac tube that does not easily collapse and restrict flow into bucket. If evac tube collapes, you have NO FLOW INTO BUCKET, AND IT WILL COLLAPSE. IF EVAC TUBE COLLAPSES, TURN VAC OFF. YOU MUST MAINTAIN FLOW OF SOMETHING - OIL, AIR, ETC. - INTO BUCKET WHILE VAC RUNS. 5. Read my $2 sucker instructions again. Wilton
Re: [MBZ] Will 15 wheels from 1997 C230 fit 1987 300D turbo?
Unless the offset is really whacked, I suspect they'll fit just fine. I have a set of 17 rims from an '06 C230 on my '87 S124. On 9/30/06, RICHARD FIne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello... I found a set of 15 stock wheels from a 1997 C230 (but the guy can't find any info on the inside of the rim) and would like to use these on my 1987 300D turbo. Are they compatable? Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler #22 (218k) '84 300D (216k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K) http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG
Re: [MBZ] OT: Linux recommendations
I'm a Mepis man myself although I'm still using the older Debian based. Its hard to go wrong... -Curt Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 20:58:07 -0500 From: Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Linux recommendations To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII rumor has it that Ralph wrote: Sorry for the off topic post but I know there are more than a few of you who love to talk about this kind of stuff. My 10 year old tech geek is dieing to give Linux a try. Can somebody recommend a source to download a copy from. I've done a little research but would appreciate some input from somebody knowledgeable with Linux. TIA. Oh boy... This is the oil topic of geeks!! Keleb even has a seperate list for those who can't keep quiet about it. *grin* There are hundreds of different flavors, or distributions. Each has an advantage, supposedly. A good place to find them is at: http://distrowatch.com/index.php?language=EN I have 5+ Debian computers. It is not the easiest distribution to install, but it is thorough and does well long term. (it's been 6 years since I re-installed to try to solve a problem) Mepis, Knoppix, Fedora, and SUSE are well regarded. -- Philip, geek - Get your email and more, right on the new Yahoo.com From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Sep 30 21:50:00 2006 Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net ([63.240.77.82]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GTmid-0003aN-R1 for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sat, 30 Sep 2006 21:50:00 + Received: from [192.168.0.2] (c-24-18-178-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net[24.18.178.168]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with SMTP id 20060930214947012002egb4e; Sat, 30 Sep 2006 21:49:47 + Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 14:48:58 -0700 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 wheel covers FS X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.7.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 21:50:00 - Oh, I just snagged a Diesel trunk label. I can deliver it to Wilton in Everett if he would like. On Sep 29, 2006, at 8:10 PM, Craig McCluskey wrote: On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 15:10:54 -0400 wilton strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 5 123 wheel covers FS.Good cond. Make offer + shpng. What do you call wheel covers, Wilton? Hubcaps? I'll have to get someone to box em. Unable myself. Sorry to hear you're having those problems. Craig P.S. I'll get the trunk lid label off to you tomorrow. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] Fuel Content in Oil
I really miss having Marshall here to tell us the proper way to do things with the diesels, just so that I can spout off about what I encounter in Gump, which is the exception to his rules. Like the IP, no sharing of engine oil, as it has its own reserve and is more likely to build up fuel, which dilutes the oil. On Sep 30, 2006, at 5:50 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: The question is, on a diesel with fuel injection, how can excess fuel get into the oil? Poor injector spray pattern, possibly engine speed or temperature dependent. Leaky (internal) lift pump. Internal leaks in the injector pump, which shares the engine oil system. Just some guesses off the top of my head. I particularly suspect the latter, as some degree of leakage past pistons is unavoidable and thus 'normal'. The Ford system offers tremendous opportunity for fuel in oil scenarios. Just be glad you don't have that one. (In particular the early 6l motors.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] The Supersucker
There is a doohickee for sanding sheet rock at the local big box hardware shop. Supposed to be a dustless thing. Uses a 5 gallon bucket and smaller diameter vacuum cleaner hose to a perforated handle you clamp the sanding screen on. Hook the one hose to the sander block, the other hose goes to your vacuum. Many adapters for if you use large shop vac or house vac. ANYWAY, the shop vac side has a coupling with an adjustable neck throttle. Open it more to reduce the amount of suck, shut down for more suck. Makes a hellacious noise. It does keep the hoses and bucket from collapsing in. Maybe you need to make a coupling with a hole drilled in large enough to back down the vacuum. On Sep 30, 2006, at 8:16 AM, Lee Einer wrote: I made a supersucker using my 6 horsepower shop vac. It supersucked. Not in a nice way. The plastic buckets tended to buckle and collapse, which also caused the lid to bend, warp and split. The contorted bucket tended to splash the waste oil back up towards the vacuum nozzle, resulting in a bunch of the oil being sucked into the shop vac. I went through three buckets in the process of changing my oil, as well as making a complete mess. So, any advice on how to keep the buckets from collapsing? I am thinking about putting one bucket inside the other for added structural strength. A source for more durable buckets would also be welcomed. Lee ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] 123 wheel covers FS
On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 14:48:58 -0700 redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, I just snagged a Diesel trunk label. I can deliver it to Wilton in Everett if he would like. Hmmm ... Since I hadn't heard from you, I just sent off the 220 Diesel trunk badge to Wilton, but the address he gave me was in North Carolina (but I was expecting Washington state, though). Now what? Craig P.S. I _might_ be able to intercept the shipment Monday, if necessary.
Re: [MBZ] Fuel Content in Oil
The IP has been oiled by the engine oil system since the OM617, only the OM615 and earlier engines had separate sumps. Peter
Re: [MBZ] 123 wheel covers FS
Well, Now I am completely confused. Maybe it is Walt in Everett and Wilton in NC? Think I will just go back to my beer and cleaning out the parts in the garage. I know I have some engine mounts in there somewhere On Sep 30, 2006, at 3:04 PM, Craig McCluskey wrote: On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 14:48:58 -0700 redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, I just snagged a Diesel trunk label. I can deliver it to Wilton in Everett if he would like. Hmmm ... Since I hadn't heard from you, I just sent off the 220 Diesel trunk badge to Wilton, but the address he gave me was in North Carolina (but I was expecting Washington state, though). Now what? Craig P.S. I _might_ be able to intercept the shipment Monday, if necessary. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] Fuel Content in Oil
As I said. Gump is a 72 220D On Sep 30, 2006, at 2:58 PM, Peter Frederick wrote: The IP has been oiled by the engine oil system since the OM617, only the OM615 and earlier engines had separate sumps. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] Winterize your Benz cheaply
they sure must have gone up then. Craig McCluskey wrote: On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 21:15:54 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you have to be kidding, 42.95 for a monovalve insert? I thought those were $25 or so? His web site says, Our Retail Price Mono Valve Repair Kit Bosch$ 79.00$ 51.80 so $ 42.95 is a 17.1% discount. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 86 300SDL, 84 380SE, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] W123 Aluminum rims
They are much lighter and easier to carry around. They usually came on all the 240D's after about 1980 or so. Bascially anything that didnt have bundts. Van Cleve wrote: Just curious... does anyone know anything about the aluminum rims that some W123s came with, what year, good and bad points?? I don't mean the alloy Bundts we are all familiar with, these Aluminum rims look just like the steel ones but have four dabs of white paint and are way lighter. I put a set off a parts car on my 79 240D and I swear, I can tell the difference. Regards Steve 85 Euro 240D, 5 spd manual, 110K 79 240D, 5 spd manual, 20K on eng rebuild 94 Dodge/Cummins PU, 100K 64 VW Bug 65 D15, AC tractor ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 86 300SDL, 84 380SE, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Will 15 wheels from 1997 C230 fit 1987 300D turbo?
no RICHARD FIne wrote: Hello... I found a set of 15 stock wheels from a 1997 C230 (but the guy can't find any info on the inside of the rim) and would like to use these on my 1987 300D turbo. Are they compatable? Thanks, Richard Fine 1987 300D turbo ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 86 300SDL, 84 380SE, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
