[MBZ] Nice 280E Euro on Portland, OR Craigslist
http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/car/290184334.html Check out the stick shift and manual climate controls! Too bad about the engine, though. Maybe a diesel swap candidate? Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper
Re: [MBZ] bearing?
Ball bearing. On 3/7/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, it is not. The main bearing is what the tensioner arm pivots around, it rotates no more than an elbow does, rarely as much as 1/8 at a time (displacement at the idler wheel). The idler wheel bearing spins normally.. Is that a bearing or a bushing, then? RLE -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. Will Rogers '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] weather bothers
Not to mention the volcanos and earthquakes. On 3/7/07, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You guys have something even more dangerous to ones health than a tornado -- potato skins! -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. Will Rogers '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] Nice 280E Euro on Portland, OR Craigslist
It needs a change of color as well --- On 3/7/07, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/car/290184334.html Check out the stick shift and manual climate controls! Too bad about the engine, though. Maybe a diesel swap candidate? Alex Chamberlain -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. Will Rogers '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] Nice 280E Euro on Portland, OR Craigslist
Pressure may just mean fuel pressure, not compression. If it's compression, I have a good 280 Euro engine for sale. If I had less cars and more money, I'd love to have a twin cam 280E Loren At 06:06 PM 3/7/2007, you wrote: http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/car/290184334.html Check out the stick shift and manual climate controls! Too bad about the engine, though. Maybe a diesel swap candidate? Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth
Re: [MBZ] Why no minivan
Make that USA, as our Canadian neighbors get a few models that MBUSA won't let us have! Werner - Original Message - From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 5:54 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why no minivan Actually it is if you live anywhere BUT North America At 10:56 AM 3/6/2007, you wrote: MB has a bunch of minivans - if you live in Europe. Loren Faeth
[MBZ] this is cool, too bad I dont speak german
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVO_pSREL84NR -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Why no minivan
They have Vitos in Canadia? I didn't think they did, at least not through MBNA... Mac? Jeff? At 06:59 PM 3/7/2007, you wrote: Make that USA, as our Canadian neighbors get a few models that MBUSA won't let us have! Werner - Original Message - From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 5:54 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why no minivan Actually it is if you live anywhere BUT North America At 10:56 AM 3/6/2007, you wrote: MB has a bunch of minivans - if you live in Europe. Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth
Re: [MBZ] Why no minivan
On Mar 7, 2007, at 5:19 PM, Loren Faeth wrote: They have Vitos in Canadia? I didn't think they did, at least not through MBNA... Mac? Jeff? Nope none in Canada, just Smarts, B class, likely broader range of diesels... Oh and occasionally hulking horsepower related flavors that are crippled for or not offered in the USA market. Those occasionally turn up owned by some baseball/football star in the usa as illegally imported tho. Well or for example my 500SEL which is Euro tuned edition, as compared to the slightly anaemic USA flavour. John 1983 300TDt 386k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1990's 300TDt 186k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1993 500SEL 186k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
[MBZ] why is my SDL so loud?
My current 87 SDL with 230k miles is very loud at idle. Belonged to an old man before I got it and had trap on it. Black smoke alot when I first got it but after trap removed and italian tuneups smokes much less. On cold startup smokes alot and runs rough for a few minutes then is smooth. Cold idle is REALLY loud, warm still too loud. About a loud or louder than a 617. Glow plugs test fine as far as the cold starting goes. Tried everything to get the idle to be quiet like a 603 should be. Ran a can of purge thru the other day and ran quiet while running on the purge but back to loud after a while. Im thinking the injectors need to be replaced but wanted to see what marshall thought, if he is reading this. I guess you could say its nailing but not really, just loud combustion I guess. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Why no minivan - THAR SHE BLOWS Der MBMuellsammelfahrzeug(garbage collection truck).
I wonder if Rusty carries parts for these... Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Canfield Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 8:02 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why no minivan - THAR SHE BLOWS Der MBMuellsammelfahrzeug(garbage collection truck). WOW! Look at the size of that windshield!!! That's alot of glass! Mike - Original Message - From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 8:44 AM Subject: [MBZ] Why no minivan - THAR SHE BLOWS Der MB Muellsammelfahrzeug(garbage collection truck). http://images.google.de/imgres?imgurl=http://erdgasfahrzeuge.harzenergie.de/ ContentFilesMantel/Bilder_Fahrzeuge/muellfahrzeug_gr.jpgimgrefurl=http://er dgasfahrzeuge.harzenergie.de/Content.aspx%3Fmpid%3D53%26ch%3D3h=168w=267s z=17hl=destart=1tbnid=4uwL8l00shkFEM:tbnh=71tbnw=113prev=/images%3Fq%3 Dmercedes%2Babfall%26ndsp%3D18%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Dde%26sa%3DN THAR SHE BLOWS Der MB Muellsammelfahrzeug (garbage collection truck). COOL! Chris Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They probably really exist in Der Fatherland... Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frederick Moir Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 8:42 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why no minivan Long ago and far away Road and Track did an article on the Mercedes GT (Garbage Truck). They did it for laughs but did the whole thorough test. Fred Moir Lynn MA 190DT started flawlessly this morning @ 7deg F, no block heater.(cord gone) Christopher McCann wrote: MB firetrucks and garbage trucks too. Would love to see an MB garbage truck. Chris - 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with theYahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Christopher McCann, happy customer of austerlitzshepherds.com Ohne Zucht keine Leistung, ohne Leistung keine Zucht! -2006 GSD, Anke (Yanke von der Burg Austerlitz) -2006 GSD, Sammy (Zane von der Burg Austerlitz) Freude an der Arbeit: Hoechste Leistung - Mercedes-Benz. -1985 300SD, 220K miles, Wulf -1982 300Dt, 117K miles, little blue klatter box - We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love (and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Why no minivan
Ok, so my original statement was correct. The rest of the world, but not Norte Amerika. At 07:35 PM 3/7/2007, you wrote: On Mar 7, 2007, at 5:19 PM, Loren Faeth wrote: They have Vitos in Canadia? I didn't think they did, at least not through MBNA... Mac? Jeff? Nope none in Canada, just Smarts, B class, likely broader range of diesels... Oh and occasionally hulking horsepower related flavors that are crippled for or not offered in the USA market. Those occasionally turn up owned by some baseball/football star in the usa as illegally imported tho. Well or for example my 500SEL which is Euro tuned edition, as compared to the slightly anaemic USA flavour. John 1983 300TDt 386k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1990's 300TDt 186k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1993 500SEL 186k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth
[MBZ] 79 300SD vacuum valve adjustment
Hello thanks for letting me join the list . The question I have is how do you adjust the vacuum valve on the injector pump that controls shift of tranny on a 79 300SD I see now screw or nut other then the 2 that are inside the valve itself - Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Mar 08 02:28:28 2007 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.173]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1HP8Mm-0005WC-6Y for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Thu, 08 Mar 2007 02:28:28 + Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id s2so758068uge for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Wed, 07 Mar 2007 18:28:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.204.3 with SMTP id b3mr2457476wag.1173320897202; Wed, 07 Mar 2007 18:28:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.235.11 with HTTP; Wed, 7 Mar 2007 18:28:17 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 20:28:17 -0600 From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9.cp2 Subject: Re: [MBZ] '75 300D on Craigslist - Portland, OR X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 02:28:28 - That's funny. All this reminds me of the freeing feeling I had with my '68 Dodge Coronet. We stripped everything out that did not contribute to forward propulsion (well, brakes and steering stayed - and a plastic seat or two). After almost knocking out a girlfriend with fumes, I put in a piece of sheetmetal over the heater core hole. That was back when I still had the original engine with exhaust leak. Maybe this is why I still am attracted to the more stripped-down cars. Brian 83 240D 84 Saab 900 (supporting a foot or two of snow) 68 Coronet 500 On 3/7/07, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Legend has it that Mercedes built a blower motor that nobody would buy, so they decided to build a W115 300D around it. The cars sold like hotcakes, but it was darned hard to get at the blower motor when it died. On 3/7/07, BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At the end of a 2 hour attempt to pull a cotter pin on my '62 Alfa I was ready to strangle any Italian or designer I could find - and being somewhat verbal about it. My roommate's visitor came by and took it rather personally. He designed control panels for nuclear ships. He made apologies for designers in general, but also tried to describe the difficulty of getting every bolt and screw of every part to be easily accessable. I think on the whole they do pretty well, but there are always a few troublesome items that are not discovered until built. Best you can hope for is that they change it soon, and don't mess up something else in the process. BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 285k miles - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 9:59 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '75 300D on Craigslist - Portland, OR This is the most disappointing thing I've heard yet about the engineering of these vehicles. Why such a blunder? They made a few, anything deep in the dash, in pretty much any car, is a royal PITA to get at. Is this the worst thing about our Mercedes? On that one, yes. Oh, and the piston rings are a bit hard to get to as well. The 123s are better on this I hope? Yes, blower replacement on 123, 126, and 107 is nearly trivial in comparison. The one saving grace about dead 114/115 fans is that the car actually has pretty good flow-through ventilation. Except for initial defrosting, or long stops at lights on very cold days, I never run the fan on mine at all. One thing that makes me fond of a vehicle is the notion that every detail was intentionally designed with intelligence and for the good of the user. Blower motors were not designed to be user-replaceable! Mostly it
Re: [MBZ] why is my SDL so loud?
Check the valve and injection timing -- late valve timing will lower compression and make it rattle. If it goes away with fuel treatment and then comes back, though, it's time to check the nozzle pattern, likely they are getting a bit worn. Low injection pressure will make them open early, too, same result -- injector knock at idle. Peter
Re: [MBZ] 124 mirror adjuster light bulb
On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 06:53:01 -0800 Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I took apart the Alpine in my wife's SL because the stinking button lights were way too bright for nighttime. I slipped a sheet of exposed film leader in there to dim it down. Much better! I guess it averages out with our Alpine, which as since been replaced, whose LEDs quit. Craig
[MBZ] W126 turn signals don't cancel- fix or replace?
Wondering if this can be fixed- it looks like there is a cam on the steering column shaft thats supposed to trip something on the switch that isn't there. Darned junk plastics failing after 21 years! Tony wirtel '85 300sd
Re: [MBZ] Why no minivan
You're not worthy to have such a fine machine. Over here we got em coming out of our ears. - Original Message - From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 12:47 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why no minivan Ok, so my original statement was correct. The rest of the world, but not Norte Amerika. At 07:35 PM 3/7/2007, you wrote: On Mar 7, 2007, at 5:19 PM, Loren Faeth wrote: They have Vitos in Canadia? I didn't think they did, at least not through MBNA... Mac? Jeff? Nope none in Canada, just Smarts, B class, likely broader range of diesels... Oh and occasionally hulking horsepower related flavors that are crippled for or not offered in the USA market. Those occasionally turn up owned by some baseball/football star in the usa as illegally imported tho. Well or for example my 500SEL which is Euro tuned edition, as compared to the slightly anaemic USA flavour. John 1983 300TDt 386k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1990's 300TDt 186k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1993 500SEL 186k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.7/713 - Release Date: 7/03/2007 9:24 AM
Re: [MBZ] more brinelling
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The example of brinelling I gave was a tied down bouncing vehicle in a rail car where the bearing is of course not turning but compressing and deforming the race by repeated impact, creating a depression which will cause noise (at the very least) when the vehicle is in motion. It's not impact, the wheel bearings see orders of magnitude more force when driving w/o denting the races. It's fine motion (ie vibration), wiggling the balls through the grease until they get metal to metal contact. And that's why educated people don't call it brinelling. I went through this with Jobst Brandt (who is a rail transport enthusiast) ten years ago, when I was on your side of the argument. I lost. Again, read this example of Jobst righting some poor slob on the subject: http://yarchive.net/bike/head_bearing.html Mitch.
Re: [MBZ] Now I've seen everything
Jeff Zedic wrote: By the way, on the news last night there was a segment, very brief, about a Bugatti Veyron. Some local smacked his up! http://www.autoblog.com/2007/03/05/aw-snap-first-bugatti-veyron-to-be-wrecked-on-public-roads/ I saw some pics last year of a Porsche GT that some idiot borrowed, and floored in a low gear. Instant offroad excursion into a utility pole. The idiot was supposedly a stand-up guy, who bought a replacement the next day (I think it would take me more than a day to find one of those)
Re: [MBZ] '75 300D on Craigslist - Portland, OR
My MGA came that way from the factory - the heater was an option (I kept it). On 3/7/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's funny. All this reminds me of the freeing feeling I had with my '68 Dodge Coronet. We stripped everything out that did not contribute to forward propulsion (well, brakes and steering stayed - and a plastic seat or two). After almost knocking out a girlfriend with fumes, I put in a piece of sheetmetal over the heater core hole. That was back when I still had the original engine with exhaust leak. Maybe this is why I still am attracted to the more stripped-down cars. Brian 83 240D 84 Saab 900 (supporting a foot or two of snow) 68 Coronet 500 -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. Will Rogers '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] W126 turn signals don't cancel- fix or replace?
Wondering if this can be fixed- it looks like there is a cam on the steering column shaft thats supposed to trip something on the switch that isn't there. Darned junk plastics failing after 21 years! The usual problem is that they don't stay on, and that can often be fixed with a little careful filing. If it doesn't turn off it may well be that the plastic (unfortunately) flipper has broken off. Don't be surprised if it's new switch time. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] 79 300SD vacuum valve adjustment
Hello thanks for letting me join the list . The question I have is how do you adjust the vacuum valve on the injector pump that controls shift of tranny on a 79 300SD I see now screw or nut other then the 2 that are inside the valve On an SDL, the body of the valve can be rotated slightly where it attaches to the IP in order to fine-tune the shift firmness vs throttle. If there's anything wrong with the turbo system though (usually pressure hose related) it'll screw up what would have been a perfect adjustment, so make sure that's right first. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Why no minivan
Loren - there hasn't been an MBNA for many years. D-B (now D-C) long ago decided that with the different governmental requirements and to be more in line with what goes on in the rest of the world, that they would split MBNA into MBUSA for the USA and MB of Canada for our Northern neighbors. The comment wasn't meant to imply that Vito vans were officially imported into Canada, just that the Canadian market is treated differently from the USA, and they do indeed have a few M-B models, including Smart cars, that so far have not been authorized by MBUSA. Technically, North America is not the same as USA! Werner - Original Message - From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 8:19 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why no minivan They have Vitos in Canadia? I didn't think they did, at least not through MBNA... Mac? Jeff? At 06:59 PM 3/7/2007, you wrote: Make that USA, as our Canadian neighbors get a few models that MBUSA won't let us have! Werner - Original Message - From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 5:54 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why no minivan Actually it is if you live anywhere BUT North America At 10:56 AM 3/6/2007, you wrote: MB has a bunch of minivans - if you live in Europe. Loren Faeth
Re: [MBZ] bearing?
Is that a bearing or a bushing, then? It's a two-race double ball bearing. Some of us think that maybe it would have been better to be a bushing. Don't know what any real mechanical engineers think, though. I replaced mine with two regular ball bearings and a spacer shim. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] OT- Jim Cathey respond
That is too bad. He was after a 400v? aviation genset 400 Hz? That's what I have. Electric 60 Hz in, 400 Hz out, however. Someday it may grow an engine. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] '75 300D on Craigslist - Portland, OR
However, I cannot believe that owners would dump the car rather than replace the blower motor Anyone who isn't willing and wishes to dump their decent non rusty 115 should call me. I'm not sure that 'decent non-rusty' applies to the ones that get dumped. Otherwise passable drivers, perhaps. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] W123 300D combination gauge fix
So, does anyone know whether is it possible to remove and pop in a replacement clock into the gauge without a lot of hassle? Because soldering is required to swap the clock itself, and the 99%+ repair of a dead clock is a trivial soldering job, once you're in a position to swap it you're equally well set up to just repair it. And it's cheaper. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] this is cool, too bad I dont speak german
Great flick, Kaleb. I especially liked the last few lines between the attendant and the driver! Werner - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes Mailing List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 8:20 PM Subject: [MBZ] this is cool, too bad I dont speak german http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVO_pSREL84NR -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 300D combination gauge fix
Do you know if it is possible to just clean the inner parts of the clock or is it all electronic? My clock just stop when temps go below 10F or so... Hope it needs some cleaning and maybe the proper oil to cure the problem. Any suggestions? TIA Bill 1981 300 TD Jim Cathey wrote: So, does anyone know whether is it possible to remove and pop in a replacement clock into the gauge without a lot of hassle? Because soldering is required to swap the clock itself, and the 99%+ repair of a dead clock is a trivial soldering job, once you're in a position to swap it you're equally well set up to just repair it. And it's cheaper. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Why no minivan - THAR SHE BLOWS Der MB Muellsammelfahrzeug (garbage collection truck).
Christopher McCann wrote: http://images.google.de/imgres?imgurl=http://erdgasfahrzeuge.harzenergie.de/ContentFilesMantel/Bilder_Fahrzeuge/muellfahrzeug_gr.jpgimgrefurl=http://erdgasfahrzeuge.harzenergie.de/Content.aspx%3Fmpid%3D53%26ch%3D3h=168w=267sz=17hl=destart=1tbnid=4uwL8l00shkFEM:tbnh=71tbnw=113prev=/images%3Fq%3Dmercedes%2Babfall%26ndsp%3D18%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Dde%26sa%3DN THAR SHE BLOWS Der MB Muellsammelfahrzeug (garbage collection truck). That is pretty neat, but I think I'll still hold out for the Mercedes sewer pumper... http://tinyurl.com/37cund Tom
[MBZ] Adding 2 cycle oil to diesel fuel???????????????
Any response to this idea?; I was told buy a 3/4 ton diesel pickup driver that he adds i quart 2 cycle oil to each tank of diesel; and that he gets about 2 more miles per gal.; (maybe the extra liquid adds to the mileage increase???) anyone have a response GOOD or BAD idea??? THANKS, Steve 3 M.B diesel cars 1 Schnauzer DOG
[MBZ] Ed Booher!!! get your cash
http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/car/289924774.html Bring a trailer and take home three cars for the price of half. Only $1k and you get a bunch of S series cars -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
[MBZ] Cascade Douche???
HI; what is procedure for this cleaning of cooling systems?; amount used # of rinses required?; What about using Prestone radiator flush??; thanks, Steve
[MBZ] Hold the viagra Benz boys
http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/car/289749883.html No need for the little blue pill. This one got me going. I can not cough up the cash, but I sure would love to look at it for somebody. Anybody. Please. Just a look. I promise. No affiliation -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
[MBZ] Cathey project car
http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/car/289683930.html I know Jim is just dying to get his hands on this one. A coupe for under $1500. Vergasser w124. -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
[MBZ] Greasing front wheel bearings
Anyone with correct advise as to how much grease is to be put in hub cup; after forcing grease into bearings; as a youngster i used to about FILL up everything???; now i just put about 1/4 full in hub 1/2? in cover cap; thanks, Steve
[MBZ] ANTIFREEZE TYPE
HI; I always used the Cheapest Antifreeze in all my vehicles, $6-$7 a gal.; thinking about using some good stuff in my Mercedes benzes?; was it Zerex 05??? or what is correct name of it? . OK for M.B.s? ; 79 240D, 83 300D, 85 300D. In my 88 Ford Ranger, always used CHEAPEST antifreeze, but changed it every year or 2; removed top bottom radiator caps, looks like NEW inside, OH, it has 219,000 miles on it(problem was sending unit on top of engine) Steve
Re: [MBZ] Why no minivan - THAR SHE BLOWS Der MB Muellsammelfahrzeug (garbage collection truck).
Sweet. Being a former sewer worker, I'm quite jazzed. Bob R - Original Message - From: tom savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 9:42 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why no minivan - THAR SHE BLOWS Der MB Muellsammelfahrzeug (garbage collection truck). Christopher McCann wrote: http://images.google.de/imgres?imgurl=http://erdgasfahrzeuge.harzenergie.de/ContentFilesMantel/Bilder_Fahrzeuge/muellfahrzeug_gr.jpgimgrefurl=http://erdgasfahrzeuge.harzenergie.de/Content.aspx%3Fmpid%3D53%26ch%3D3h=168w=267sz=17hl=destart=1tbnid=4uwL8l00shkFEM:tbnh=71tbnw=113prev=/images%3Fq%3Dmercedes%2Babfall%26ndsp%3D18%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Dde%26sa%3DN THAR SHE BLOWS Der MB Muellsammelfahrzeug (garbage collection truck). That is pretty neat, but I think I'll still hold out for the Mercedes sewer pumper... http://tinyurl.com/37cund Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 15-50 oil in 300Ds
Hi; another sale at Atwoods on Mystic 15w50 oil; $5 gals. for $38.xx less a $5.00 rebate slip; all new stuff coming in says Synthetic Blend???; last 5 gal. i bought (with rebate) did not say synthetic blend on it Says made by Citgo Petroleum Corporation , Houston Texas; i thought it used to be made by Kendall ??? thanks, Steve
[MBZ] The whole list
I got tired of posting them one at a time. Was not going to post the list anymore. Seems to make the group a bit itchy. too bad. http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/car/289368382.html -- 87 TD 3rd seat http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/car/289461132.html -- $1k 300D http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/car/289180546.html -- SDL $3500 http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/car/289350721.html -- $500 300D http://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/car/289097679.html -- FREE 64 220SE It is FREE FREE FREE FREE http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/car/288834647.html -- Kaleb 2-4-1 http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/car/288987058.html -- 123TD $2k http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/car/288736750.html -- 59 190 $2k http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/car/288563803.html -- 68 230 $1k http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/car/288395268.html - 74 turbo 240 http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/car/288318570.html -- 62 190D $4k http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/car/288061171.html -- 84 SD $5k http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/car/288018146.html -- 76 300D http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/car/287742006.html -- 98 Dt $18k http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/car/287312965.html -- ED BOOHER http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/car/286956191.html -- 95 rods bent http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/car/286901637.html -- 05 CDI $36k http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/car/286840459.html -- 70 SEL 6.3 http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/car/286732633.html -- Cripple sprinter http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/car/286289186.html -- Kaleb car That is it. I will gladly check any of them out. Ed B. needs to find himself some cash and quit stalling. There are a bunch out here with his name on them. -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
[MBZ] 87 Timing chain GEARS replacement
About $1600 to change timing chain ALL? GEARS; does engine have to be removed to change lower T. gear on Crankshaft; if so maybe that is why the high price; crank gear is the highest cost but top 2 gears are only about $25-$35 each unless they have went up? thanks, Steve
Re: [MBZ] Whatever
Again, read this example of Jobst righting some poor slob on the subject: http://yarchive.net/bike/head_bearing.html This guy Brandt seems to be the H VanCleef of the bicycle list. Yappity yappity yap. Lets's get back to which oil or perhaps 500 links to ebay or craigslist rustbuckets. RLE ** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.
Re: [MBZ] ANTIFREEZE TYPE
Use either the MB stuff Rusty sells or get the Zerez 05 or G5 whichever it is. You'll be glad you did. Bob R - Original Message - From: Stephen D Murrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 10:14 PM Subject: [MBZ] ANTIFREEZE TYPE HI; I always used the Cheapest Antifreeze in all my vehicles, $6-$7 a gal.; thinking about using some good stuff in my Mercedes benzes?; was it Zerex 05??? or what is correct name of it? . OK for M.B.s? ; 79 240D, 83 300D, 85 300D. In my 88 Ford Ranger, always used CHEAPEST antifreeze, but changed it every year or 2; removed top bottom radiator caps, looks like NEW inside, OH, it has 219,000 miles on it(problem was sending unit on top of engine) Steve ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Carrera GT
I saw some pics last year of a Porsche GT that some idiot borrowed, and floored in a low gear. Instant offroad excursion into a utility pole. The idiot was supposedly a stand-up guy, who bought a replacement the next day (I think it would take me more than a day to find one of those) I happen to have personal knowledge of that Carrera GT crash and that particular version of events (which I saw and believed) was complete BS. The car was in for some service or other and the shop owner decided to take 'er for a spin. His claim that another car cut him off at the intersection was a little thin since the intersection was 700 feet back.The car was totalled the moment the firewall hit the pole. RLE ** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.
Re: [MBZ] Ed Booher!!! get your cash
From the ad: my health doesn't allow me to continue my hobby.. really means my wife shot me for having so much junk sitting around. --R Redghost wrote: http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/car/289924774.html Bring a trailer and take home three cars for the price of half. Only $1k and you get a bunch of S series cars
[MBZ] Resister to lower voltage to use LEDS as small lights
ALEX!; if you figure out the resister, (the value ) to use on the LEDS, could you share it with us???; is it used to lower voltage, current or BOTH!?; thanks, Steve
Re: [MBZ] Adding 2 cycle oil to diesel fuel???????????????
Probably won't hurt, but it also won't do much of anything. Worst case it will cause ash buildup in the prechambers. Buy some biodiesel, it smokes less, and there isn't a performance or milage hit at B5 or B10. May cause early failure of things like fuel lines and overflow hoses, but the new ones are resistant. Peter On Mar 7, 2007, at 10:54 PM, Stephen D Murrell wrote: Any response to this idea?; I was told buy a 3/4 ton diesel pickup driver that he adds i quart 2 cycle oil to each tank of diesel; and that he gets about 2 more miles per gal.; (maybe the extra liquid adds to the mileage increase???) anyone have a response GOOD or BAD idea??? THANKS, Steve 3 M.B diesel cars 1 Schnauzer DOG ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ANTIFREEZE TYPE
Zerex G-05, Ford and Chrysler type. Don't use green antifreeze, and particularly don't leave it in there for decades, it will not protect the aluminum from corrosion, and it can get so bad the head gasket blows -- my sister's Volvo did just that, had to get a new head for it. Peter
Re: [MBZ] OT- Jim Cathey respond
Yep, that would be it. Not the best when it comes to sparky things. Got too much of the juice run through delicate parts to recall or be electrically inclined On Mar 7, 2007, at 8:04 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: That is too bad. He was after a 400v? aviation genset 400 Hz? That's what I have. Electric 60 Hz in, 400 Hz out, however. Someday it may grow an engine. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] Cathey project car
http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/car/289683930.html I know Jim is just dying to get his hands on this one. A coupe for under $1500. Vergasser w124. Well, that's what Zach's 300CD cost me, and it's a diesel and everything! Also have the 250C conversion convertible, so we're actually pretty coupe-y already. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Adding 2 cycle oil to diesel fuel???????????????
News flash..'Hick from the stick finds way to increase efficiency of Diesel engine. More than a hundred years after the invention of the Diesel engine a man from Theneckisred, South Alabama by the name of Cletus Imarriedmycousin has revealed his amazing secret for increasing the mileage he gets from his hunting truck. Cletus is quoted as saying I get that there stuff for me lawncutter and put a bottle of it in the ole truck whens I fill er up at Uncle Jebs gas place. Heck it makes the old girl giddyup and go like a half skinned critter. In an effort to verify Mr Imarriemycousin's claim we contacted Daimler Chryslers technical department. Dr Ichweissalles from Daimler Chryslers advanced engine research department issued the following statement This is truly amazing, we have been trying to make the compression ignition engine more efficient by using high pressure to inject the fuel but have completely missed this. This would have to be biggest technical advance since the invention of the Otto cycle engine. We are currently busy designing a system so our vehicles will automatically inject two stroke oil at the exact correct amount. The President of the United States has issued this statement: I would like to congratulate my good friend and cousin twice removed Cletus Imarriedmycousin for figuring this out. This once again shows that we are the cleverest people in the Earth. I personally will make sure that Cletus gets a medal for personnaly saving the enviroment by making our beloved pick up cars much more efficient. This is a clear example that you don't need no fancy education to make good in the United States of America. God bless us and our friends and God bless Cletus saviour of the ozones. BTW Steve I have a nice bridge for sale in San Francisco if you are interested. - Original Message - From: Stephen D Murrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 3:24 PM Subject: [MBZ] Adding 2 cycle oil to diesel fuel??? Any response to this idea?; I was told buy a 3/4 ton diesel pickup driver that he adds i quart 2 cycle oil to each tank of diesel; and that he gets about 2 more miles per gal.; (maybe the extra liquid adds to the mileage increase???) anyone have a response GOOD or BAD idea??? THANKS, Steve 3 M.B diesel cars 1 Schnauzer DOG ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.7/713 - Release Date: 7/03/2007 9:24 AM
Re: [MBZ] Resister to lower voltage to use LEDS as small lights
ALEX!; if you figure out the resister, (the value ) to use on the LEDS, could you share it with us???; is it used to lower voltage, current or BOTH!?; It lowers both, but its primary purpose is to limit the current. (This being generally true of electrical items. It is the flow of current that ends up performing the useful work, the voltage is just what it takes to induce the electrons to move suitably. That said, measuring the voltage is much easier to do, and is often a perfectly adequate means of seeing what's going on.) -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] The whole list
Some cool stuff there! -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Whatever
No No No, this has been the most fascinating thread in years. I can't wait to learn more about the differences between brinelling and dimpling. Although it is hard to focus because I am also trying to keep an eye on that bit of paint that is drying. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 3:58 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Whatever Lets's get back to which oil or perhaps 500 links to ebay or craigslist rustbuckets. RLE ** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.7/713 - Release Date: 7/03/2007 9:24 AM
Re: [MBZ] ANTIFREEZE TYPE
I think the green is probably fine, IF IF IF you change it often enough. But practically nobody does, and that includes me too I suppose. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Hold the viagra Benz boys
http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/car/289749883.html No need for the little blue pill. This one got me going. I can not cough up the cash, but I sure would love to look at it for somebody. Anybody. Please. Just a look. I promise. Oh, I like that. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] W123 300D combination gauge fix
Do you know if it is possible to just clean the inner parts of the clock or is it all electronic? My clock just stop when temps go below 10F or so... Hope it needs some cleaning and maybe the proper oil to cure the problem. Any suggestions? TIA Oil is not your problem. Torque for the motor is transmitted through the aforementioned capacitors that are easy/cheap to replace. Such capacitors get weak with age, and are unable to provide as much torque, so when things get cold the clock can stop. First try replacing the capacitors and then see if you still have a problem. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Why no minivan - THAR SHE BLOWS Der MB Muellsammelfahrzeug (garbage collection truck).
Notice that the man in the Mercedes sewer pumper truck is smiling and the guy on the sidewalk holding the pipe is not. Certain evidence that any MB can make you happy BillR - Original Message - From: tom savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 11:42 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why no minivan - THAR SHE BLOWS Der MB Muellsammelfahrzeug (garbage collection truck). Christopher McCann wrote: http://images.google.de/imgres?imgurl=http://erdgasfahrzeuge.harzenergie.de/ContentFilesMantel/Bilder_Fahrzeuge/muellfahrzeug_gr.jpgimgrefurl=http://erdgasfahrzeuge.harzenergie.de/Content.aspx%3Fmpid%3D53%26ch%3D3h=168w=267sz=17hl=destart=1tbnid=4uwL8l00shkFEM:tbnh=71tbnw=113prev=/images%3Fq%3Dmercedes%2Babfall%26ndsp%3D18%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Dde%26sa%3DN THAR SHE BLOWS Der MB Muellsammelfahrzeug (garbage collection truck). That is pretty neat, but I think I'll still hold out for the Mercedes sewer pumper... http://tinyurl.com/37cund Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Resister to lower voltage to use LEDS as small lights
If you use only a resistor, you will have to seriously under power the LED to prevent killing it. For design purposes, you should plan on seeing 60V spikes in an automotive electrical system. These are caused by suddenly disconnecting a current source from the charging circuit. Resistive lighting can handle the spike just fine, but LEDs can't. You really need a current-limiting control circuit. -Dave Walton On 3/8/07, Stephen D Murrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ALEX!; if you figure out the resister, (the value ) to use on the LEDS, could you share it with us???; is it used to lower voltage, current or BOTH!?; thanks, Steve ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ANTIFREEZE TYPE
Jim Cathey wrote: I think the green is probably fine, IF IF IF you change it often enough. And with the store brand costing $7 at WalMart when G-05 costs $11 at Autozone, there isn't enough savings for me to put green in anything.
Re: [MBZ] Carrera GT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I happen to have personal knowledge of that Carrera GT crash and that particular version of events (which I saw and believed) was complete BS. The car was in for some service or other and the shop owner decided to take 'er for a spin. His claim that another car cut him off at the intersection was a little thin since the intersection was 700 feet back.The car was totalled the moment the firewall hit the pole. Reminds me of the time a Ford dealer got its first GT. After the prep guys resisted the urge to play with it, and minutes after the salesman called the customer to tell him he could come pick up his new car, the idiot sales manager decided to take it for a spin. He waited for a gap in traffic, and floored it in first gear leaving the driveway. Hit a fixed object on the other side of the street hard enough to guarantee a total. The look on the buyer's face when he got there minutes later must have been priceless. At least a Ford GT is easier to replace than a Carrera GT. Mitch.
[MBZ] Cooling System Technical Help 1979 240D
1. My temperature gaugee (which is the combo fuel gauge, and lube oil pressure gauge) is very speratic flipping around alot. I changed this whole gauge unit out, same thing with the replacement, Temp gauge bounces. A) next step () change out sensor at engine. ??? I am going to try this... is this the forward sensor or the after sensor on the left side of engine block. Has any one done this job is it in a thermo well or when I pull it does the sensor sit in the coolant and will leak. Any type of sealant when I screw it back in please B) Can start car and run from a cold start for 400 miles not problem. If car comes to idle or if leave parked and shut off for a few minutes, and reastart and get on highway can only sometime experience over heating. ~~ If it is an air issue, can can air pocket in the thermostate housing and cause it to close stop flow to radiator becuase the air is cooler than the coolant?? ~~Belts are tight to water pump, and when at highway speed not over heating is experienced if started from cold ~~ could a small leak in the heater core (no steam or fog or liquid noticed in car) cause the build up of air in system?? Please help thanks Regards Tom Scordato 1979 240D 115K miles
Re: [MBZ] this is cool, too bad I dont speak german
Most of what the narrator is saying is listing engine choices, power ratings etc. No idea what the conversation is about at the endanyone?? Jeff Zedic
Re: [MBZ] Whatever
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Again, read this example of Jobst righting some poor slob on the subject: http://yarchive.net/bike/head_bearing.html This guy Brandt seems to be the H VanCleef of the bicycle list. Yappity yappity yap. The man wrote an entire book on how a wire spoked wheel supports loads. It's a best-seller by bike book standards. Search The Bicycle Wheel by Jobst Brandt on Amazon. He's also the most anal-retentive guy I ever corresponded with. I'm sure the junior engineers at Hewlett Packard hated him. (when he worked for Porsche, he was junior) Mitch.
Re: [MBZ] this is cool, too bad I dont speak german
Jeff - the last shot is when the well-dressed gentleman pulls into a service place (like our old time gas stations) and is quizzed by the owner/mechanic as to what he might want - and when he exhausts the list of what the usual drive-in customer would want, asks well, what did you come here for? The driver responds that the children musst, which is the usual German way to say that they had to relieve themselves. The mechanic sadly turns away muttering about the die kinder musst, and obviously discouraged that he wasn't going to make any money on this guy. The facial expressions add a lot to it. Werner - Original Message - From: Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 7:05 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] this is cool, too bad I dont speak german Most of what the narrator is saying is listing engine choices, power ratings etc. No idea what the conversation is about at the endanyone?? Jeff Zedic ___
Re: [MBZ] Cooling System Technical Help 1979 240D
1. My temperature gaugee (which is the combo fuel gauge, and lube oil pressure gauge) is very speratic flipping around alot. I changed this whole gauge unit out, same thing with the replacement, The gauge is rarely, if ever, the problem. The sender lives in a harsh environment, as does the wiring thereto. That's where you start. The usual gauge sensor is in the head along the side. It's easy to tell which, just unhook one and see if it affects the gauge. One will. First make sure it's getting good contact. ...does the sensor sit in the coolant and will leak? It's wet. ~~ If it is an air issue, can can air pocket in the thermostat housing and cause it to close stop flow to radiator becuase the air is cooler than the coolant?? Air pockets can do this. Is the bleed tube OK that goes to the head from the water pump? Do you have the correct thermostat that has an air weep hole, and is it mounted up? To de-air the system it often helps to park the car seriously nose-up. ~~ could a small leak in the heater core (no steam or fog or liquid noticed in car) cause the build up of air in system?? The usual air build-up mechanism is a leaky head gasket, but they're not all that common on that engine. That diagnosis usually made from having pressurized cooling systems when cold. The best way I've found to get most of the air out of the system when refilling it is to back-fill the head from the upper radiator hose. Your thermostat could be 'sticky'. You could try a new one. Even if new(-ish), brand new ones are sometimes bad. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Resister to lower voltage to use LEDS as small lights
If you use only a resistor, you will have to seriously under power the LED to prevent killing it. For design purposes, you should plan on seeing 60V spikes in an automotive electrical system. These are caused by suddenly disconnecting a current source from the charging circuit. Resistive lighting can handle the spike just fine, but LEDs can't. You really need a current-limiting control circuit. LED's do handle this just fine. The light internal to the window switches in the SDL, for example, are LED's. They'll live for years, much longer than a 'more robust' incandescent will. All they have is a series resistor. LED's are commonly seriously overdriven in multiplexed display operations. Huge current spikes that would fry them if continuous. But they're intermittent, as are the load-dump spikes in an automotive system. For nighttime illumination, the LED is going to be fairly weakly driven anyway. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Why no minivan - THAR SHE BLOWS Der MB Muellsammelfahrzeug (garbage collection truck).
that's awesome! Probably use MOGs for that now. Chris tom savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christopher McCann wrote: http://images.google.de/imgres?imgurl=http://erdgasfahrzeuge.harzenergie.de/ContentFilesMantel/Bilder_Fahrzeuge/muellfahrzeug_gr.jpgimgrefurl=http://erdgasfahrzeuge.harzenergie.de/Content.aspx%3Fmpid%3D53%26ch%3D3h=168w=267sz=17hl=destart=1tbnid=4uwL8l00shkFEM:tbnh=71tbnw=113prev=/images%3Fq%3Dmercedes%2Babfall%26ndsp%3D18%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Dde%26sa%3DN THAR SHE BLOWS Der MB Muellsammelfahrzeug (garbage collection truck). That is pretty neat, but I think I'll still hold out for the Mercedes sewer pumper... http://tinyurl.com/37cund Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Mar 08 14:35:15 2007 Received: from mail.atlasok.com ([70.184.24.3]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1HPJi7-0002Df-BE for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Thu, 08 Mar 2007 14:35:15 + Received: (qmail 18427 invoked by uid 508); 8 Mar 2007 08:35:17 -0600 Received: from 70.184.21.45 by mail2.atlasok.com (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED], uid 508) with qmail-scanner-2.01st (clamdscan: 0.90rc2/2257. spamassassin: 2.x. perlscan: 2.01st. Clear:RC:1(70.184.21.45):. Processed in 0.035773 secs); 08 Mar 2007 14:35:17 - Received: from 70-184-21-45.atlasok.com (HELO [192.168.1.101]) (70.184.21.45) by mail.atlasok.com with SMTP; Thu, 08 Mar 2007 08:35:17 -0600 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 08:35:25 -0600 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] why is my SDL so loud? X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 14:35:15 - Thanks. I suspected injectors also but wanted to see what others though. Will probably check the chain stretch also. BTW, just switched to M1. Peter Frederick wrote: Check the valve and injection timing -- late valve timing will lower compression and make it rattle. If it goes away with fuel treatment and then comes back, though, it's time to check the nozzle pattern, likely they are getting a bit worn. Low injection pressure will make them open early, too, same result -- injector knock at idle. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W126 turn signals don't cancel- fix or replace?
You have to file a notch in it a little bit. Believe it or not I have never done this procedure but supposedly its very simple. Tony Wirtel wrote: Wondering if this can be fixed- it looks like there is a cam on the steering column shaft thats supposed to trip something on the switch that isn't there. Darned junk plastics failing after 21 years! Tony wirtel '85 300sd ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W126 turn signals don't cancel- fix or replace?
yea, thats what I meant, I had it backwards. Jim Cathey wrote: Wondering if this can be fixed- it looks like there is a cam on the steering column shaft thats supposed to trip something on the switch that isn't there. Darned junk plastics failing after 21 years! The usual problem is that they don't stay on, and that can often be fixed with a little careful filing. If it doesn't turn off it may well be that the plastic (unfortunately) flipper has broken off. Don't be surprised if it's new switch time. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 79 300SD vacuum valve adjustment
Actually, on the older 617's, you have to remove that sort of cone shaped cover on the side of the valve and there will be a nut under there you loosen. Have to follow the procedure though for adjusting it. Im sure somebody has it. Jim Cathey wrote: Hello thanks for letting me join the list . The question I have is how do you adjust the vacuum valve on the injector pump that controls shift of tranny on a 79 300SD I see now screw or nut other then the 2 that are inside the valve On an SDL, the body of the valve can be rotated slightly where it attaches to the IP in order to fine-tune the shift firmness vs throttle. If there's anything wrong with the turbo system though (usually pressure hose related) it'll screw up what would have been a perfect adjustment, so make sure that's right first. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] this is cool, too bad I dont speak german
Did you see that part about the guy pushing the button under the steering column, sort of a panic button I guess? Cool euro features!! Jeff Zedic wrote: Most of what the narrator is saying is listing engine choices, power ratings etc. No idea what the conversation is about at the endanyone?? Jeff Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hold the viagra Benz boys
On 3/7/07, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/car/289749883.html No need for the little blue pill. This one got me going. I can not cough up the cash, but I sure would love to look at it for somebody. Anybody. Please. Just a look. I promise. What the heck, go look at it for me. Go buck wild. Let the seller know you have a client in the Midwest you do research for and you think he might be interested. Tell him what ever you want, buddy. Just so long as you get the owner to let you have a test drive. Ed -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil.
Re: [MBZ] Resister to lower voltage to use LEDS as small lights
I've seen experienced electrical engineers make the same mistake, and I've seen the companies they work for suffer because of having to live with the consequences. If you are just playing around in your backyard then toss in a series resistor. If it dies, you are out a few cents and some time. Not a big deal. If you are designing a product for sale, you might want to learn about the physics involved first. I've been interested in LED lighting for a while and most of the commercially available products ARE NOT engineered correctly. -Dave Walton On 3/8/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you use only a resistor, you will have to seriously under power the LED to prevent killing it. For design purposes, you should plan on seeing 60V spikes in an automotive electrical system. These are caused by suddenly disconnecting a current source from the charging circuit. Resistive lighting can handle the spike just fine, but LEDs can't. You really need a current-limiting control circuit. LED's do handle this just fine. The light internal to the window switches in the SDL, for example, are LED's. They'll live for years, much longer than a 'more robust' incandescent will. All they have is a series resistor. LED's are commonly seriously overdriven in multiplexed display operations. Huge current spikes that would fry them if continuous. But they're intermittent, as are the load-dump spikes in an automotive system. For nighttime illumination, the LED is going to be fairly weakly driven anyway. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cooling System Technical Help 1979 240D
In a message dated 3/8/2007 4:59:34 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My temperature gaugee (which is the combo fuel gauge, and lube oil pressure gauge) is very speratic flipping around alot. I changed this whole gauge unit out, same thing with the replacement, Temp gauge bounces. A) next step () change out sensor at engine. ??? I am going to try this... is this the forward sensor or the after sensor on the left side of engine block. Has any one done this job is it in a thermo well or when I pull it does the sensor sit in the coolant and will leak. Any type of sealant when I screw it back in please Jimc answered your questions. Before you spend any money, I would like to reinforce making sure the connections are good. MB has a history of poor contact due to oxidation. Unplugging and replugging the sensor connection a couple times will probably fix your problem. On my 79 the sensor wiring passes through the connector on the glow plug relay and this is absolutely another connector that should be exercised! you will have to unbolt the glow plug relay from the fender to do this I think. Watch your gauge stabilize after doing this.. Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 264 K miles 98 ML 320, 147 K miles BRBRBR**BR AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.
Re: [MBZ] Adding 2 cycle oil to diesel fuel???????????????
It reads like you've been speaking to my southern Illinois relatives again Bob R - Original Message - From: Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 11:08 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Adding 2 cycle oil to diesel fuel??? News flash..'Hick from the stick finds way to increase efficiency of Diesel engine. More than a hundred years after the invention of the Diesel engine a man from Theneckisred, South Alabama by the name of Cletus Imarriedmycousin has revealed his amazing secret for increasing the mileage he gets from his hunting truck. Cletus is quoted as saying I get that there stuff for me lawncutter and put a bottle of it in the ole truck whens I fill er up at Uncle Jebs gas place. Heck it makes the old girl giddyup and go like a half skinned critter. In an effort to verify Mr Imarriemycousin's claim we contacted Daimler Chryslers technical department. Dr Ichweissalles from Daimler Chryslers advanced engine research department issued the following statement This is truly amazing, we have been trying to make the compression ignition engine more efficient by using high pressure to inject the fuel but have completely missed this. This would have to be biggest technical advance since the invention of the Otto cycle engine. We are currently busy designing a system so our vehicles will automatically inject two stroke oil at the exact correct amount. The President of the United States has issued this statement: I would like to congratulate my good friend and cousin twice removed Cletus Imarriedmycousin for figuring this out. This once again shows that we are the cleverest people in the Earth. I personally will make sure that Cletus gets a medal for personnaly saving the enviroment by making our beloved pick up cars much more efficient. This is a clear example that you don't need no fancy education to make good in the United States of America. God bless us and our friends and God bless Cletus saviour of the ozones. BTW Steve I have a nice bridge for sale in San Francisco if you are interested. - Original Message - From: Stephen D Murrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 3:24 PM Subject: [MBZ] Adding 2 cycle oil to diesel fuel??? Any response to this idea?; I was told buy a 3/4 ton diesel pickup driver that he adds i quart 2 cycle oil to each tank of diesel; and that he gets about 2 more miles per gal.; (maybe the extra liquid adds to the mileage increase???) anyone have a response GOOD or BAD idea??? THANKS, Steve 3 M.B diesel cars 1 Schnauzer DOG ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.7/713 - Release Date: 7/03/2007 9:24 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Why no minivan
Werner Fehlauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The comment wasn't meant to imply that Vito vans were officially imported into Canada, just that the Canadian market is treated differently from the USA, and they do indeed have a few M-B models, including Smart cars, that so far have not been authorized by MBUSA. If they're worried about altering their luxury image here, they should just invent a new name and rebadge some of the other vehicles. Sort of the reverse of what Toyota did when they started making cars under the Lexus marque. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230
Re: [MBZ] 79 300SD vacuum valve adjustment
Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Actually, on the older 617's, you have to remove that sort of cone shaped cover on the side of the valve and there will be a nut under there you loosen. Have to follow the procedure though for adjusting it. Im sure somebody has it. There's this: http://www.continentalimports.com/ser_ic20242.html Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230
Re: [MBZ] Why no minivan
you mean like the Dodge Sprinter? CM Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Werner Fehlauer writes: The comment wasn't meant to imply that Vito vans were officially imported into Canada, just that the Canadian market is treated differently from the USA, and they do indeed have a few M-B models, including Smart cars, that so far have not been authorized by MBUSA. If they're worried about altering their luxury image here, they should just invent a new name and rebadge some of the other vehicles. Sort of the reverse of what Toyota did when they started making cars under the Lexus marque. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Christopher McCann, happy customer of austerlitzshepherds.com Ohne Zucht keine Leistung, ohne Leistung keine Zucht! -2006 GSD, Anke (Yanke von der Burg Austerlitz) -2006 GSD, Sammy (Zane von der Burg Austerlitz) Freude an der Arbeit: Hoechste Leistung - Mercedes-Benz. -1985 300SD, 220K miles, Wulf -1982 300Dt, 117K miles, little blue klatter box - Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Mar 08 15:25:21 2007 Received: from fed1rmmtao101.cox.net ([68.230.241.45]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1HPKUb-0006GF-EB for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Thu, 08 Mar 2007 15:25:21 + Received: from fed1rmimpo01.cox.net ([70.169.32.71]) by fed1rmmtao101.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.05.02.00 201-2174-114-20060621) with ESMTP id [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Thu, 8 Mar 2007 10:25:15 -0500 Received: from familycomp ([70.190.67.8]) by fed1rmimpo01.cox.net with bizsmtp id YFRF1W00c0Ahvvq000; Thu, 08 Mar 2007 10:25:15 -0500 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 08:23:21 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why no minivan X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 15:25:22 - I know it's not Friday, but I will be away from the computer Friday so here is the A Classe skinny...I'm sure most of yous guys remember. From Wikipedia: The Moose test, also known as the Elk test, Älgtest in Swedish, has been used in Sweden for decades to test how a certain vehicle, usually an automobile, acts when avoiding a sudden danger, such as a moose. The test is made on dry pavement. Traffic cones are set up in an S shape to simulate the obstacle, the road and its edges. The car which is going to be tested has one belted person at each available seat and weights in the trunk to achieve maximum load. When the driver comes onto the track, he quickly swerves into the oncoming lane to avoid the object and then immediately swerves back to avoid oncoming traffic. The test is repeated with an increased speed until the car skids down the cones or spins around. This usually happens at speeds of about 70-80 km/h (45-50 mph) in the best cases. The test became widely known in 1997 when journalists from the Swedish motor magazine Teknikens Värld overturned the new Mercedes-Benz A-Class in the moose test, while a Trabant - a much older, and widely mocked car from the former German Democratic Republic - managed it perfectly [1]. The Dacia Logan appeared initially to fail the test, but a later investigation concluded that excessive testing had worn the car's tires to failure. The test was important in the popularization of Electronic Stability Control, which may soon become mandatory in the United States. The name 'Moose test' (German 'Elchtest') was invented by German journalists after this event, with regards to the scenario of an elk on the road, which is
Re: [MBZ] Resister to lower voltage to use LEDS as small lights
Jim Cathey wrote: LED's are commonly seriously overdriven in multiplexed display operations. Huge current spikes that would fry them if continuous. But they're intermittent, as are the load-dump spikes in an automotive system. Thats what I think would happen too. If you're lucky enough to have a datasheet for the LEDs there is a continuous and a peak current rating. :) Either way, 60V?!? I don't know if I believe that happening on most vehicles (ie, you had something freaky going on we don't normally see). The reason I say that is one of the projects at my work is to make an engine speed controller so that an HMMV can be at a high enough RPM to generate a 400A 28VDC (yep, 28V) load. We could switch that load on/off and we never saw any monster spikes like that. No doubt it wasn't a clean 28V, but it wasn't quite that insane!! Maybe you were talking about a more local voltage spike and not one across the battery? I'm still new in engineering land so I'm used to being wrong.. ;) As an aside... the current probes measured nearly 800A peak for the stall current on the starter!! John '79 300SD
Re: [MBZ] Cooling System Technical Help 1979 240D
Jim Cathey Huge Huge help thanks Tom - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 9:17 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cooling System Technical Help 1979 240D 1. My temperature gaugee (which is the combo fuel gauge, and lube oil pressure gauge) is very speratic flipping around alot. I changed this whole gauge unit out, same thing with the replacement, The gauge is rarely, if ever, the problem. The sender lives in a harsh environment, as does the wiring thereto. That's where you start. The usual gauge sensor is in the head along the side. It's easy to tell which, just unhook one and see if it affects the gauge. One will. First make sure it's getting good contact. ...does the sensor sit in the coolant and will leak? It's wet. ~~ If it is an air issue, can can air pocket in the thermostat housing and cause it to close stop flow to radiator becuase the air is cooler than the coolant?? Air pockets can do this. Is the bleed tube OK that goes to the head from the water pump? Do you have the correct thermostat that has an air weep hole, and is it mounted up? To de-air the system it often helps to park the car seriously nose-up. ~~ could a small leak in the heater core (no steam or fog or liquid noticed in car) cause the build up of air in system?? The usual air build-up mechanism is a leaky head gasket, but they're not all that common on that engine. That diagnosis usually made from having pressurized cooling systems when cold. The best way I've found to get most of the air out of the system when refilling it is to back-fill the head from the upper radiator hose. Your thermostat could be 'sticky'. You could try a new one. Even if new(-ish), brand new ones are sometimes bad. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Adding 2 cycle oil to diesel fuel???????????????
Woundn't a quart of oil per tank cost more than the additional fuel required for the same mileage without it? That's if it even works. :-) Zeb On 07/03/07, Stephen D Murrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any response to this idea?; I was told buy a 3/4 ton diesel pickup driver that he adds i quart 2 cycle oil to each tank of diesel; and that he gets about 2 more miles per gal.; (maybe the extra liquid adds to the mileage increase???) anyone have a response GOOD or BAD idea??? THANKS, Steve 3 M.B diesel cars 1 Schnauzer DOG ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Resistor to lower voltage to use LED's as small lights
I've seen experienced electrical engineers make the same mistake, and I've seen the companies they work for suffer because of having to live with the consequences. If you are just playing around in your backyard then toss in a series resistor. If it dies, you are out a few cents and some time. Not a big deal. If you are designing a product for sale, you might want to learn about the physics involved first. I've been interested in LED lighting for a while and most of the commercially available products ARE NOT engineered correctly. Automotive electrical systems are very nasty. I'd expect the LED to be more sensitive to the reverse polarity spikes, but it's been a long time since I've pored over their specs. That said, plenty of these things are wired that simply, and it'll probably be good enough. In a mission-critical system I'd expect to be powering all the goodies off of a regulated power supply rather than eating the juice raw. Sad now that I think about it, but professionally speaking it's been about 20 years since I did anything but Verilog or C. Sniff! -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Resister to lower voltage to use LEDS as small lights
dave walton wrote: I've seen experienced electrical engineers make the same mistake, and I've seen the companies they work for suffer because of having to live with the consequences. If you are just playing around in your backyard then toss in a series resistor. If it dies, you are out a few cents and some time. Not a big deal. If you are designing a product for sale, you might want to learn about the physics involved first. I've been interested in LED lighting for a while and most of the commercially available products ARE NOT engineered correctly. LEDs do have average and peak current ratings... those ratings also have a maximum duration, and maximum frequency the pulse can be repeated at. There are also power dissipation ratings (one would think that the current and power ratings would be the same, but I don't think that ever happens)... I guess its because I've never seen those load-dump spikes (not saying they don't happen, just never seen what they look like), but I seem to think for most of us the LEDs and where we'd be using them in the electrical system should be okay. I'm assuming there aren't any major current consumption devices on the same fused branch as the instrumentation lighting. So if the load dump current comes from elsewhere (the glow plugs say) that 60V spike is going to have to make it across all the inductance of the wire from the battery to the instruments (assuming the battery isn't able to absorb the energy in that spike, and/or hasn't reacted to it yet). Am I following things correctly? I'm not trying to be snotty about this... I'm going to be building a lot of electronics for the car in the near future, and it would be nice to know if I need to account for 60V spike flying around!! John '79 300SD
[MBZ] LED Lighting Resources
For all of you who want to do LED lighting, a good place to find lots of information is at the HID Planet forums. They've got a sub-forum dedicated to all things LED.. http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/ You have to register, but they've got lots of info to get you started. John '79 300SD
[MBZ] faszination video on W124 - like the W123 video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vrs7sWviGW8 Chris Christopher McCann, happy customer of austerlitzshepherds.com Ohne Zucht keine Leistung, ohne Leistung keine Zucht! -2006 GSD, Anke (Yanke von der Burg Austerlitz) -2006 GSD, Sammy (Zane von der Burg Austerlitz) Freude an der Arbeit: Hoechste Leistung - Mercedes-Benz. -1985 300SD, 220K miles, Wulf -1982 300Dt, 117K miles, little blue klatter box - The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Mar 08 16:04:52 2007 Received: from host337.ipowerweb.com ([72.22.69.22]) by server8.arterytc8.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1HPL6p-00011k-Jz for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Thu, 08 Mar 2007 16:04:51 + Received: (qmail 89144 invoked from network); 8 Mar 2007 16:04:48 - Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (206.109.43.202) by host337.ipowerweb.com with SMTP; 8 Mar 2007 16:04:48 - Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 10:04:58 -0600 From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Resister to lower voltage to use LEDS as small lights X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 16:04:52 - I bought a couple of 12V LEDs a the electronic toystore for like $0.99 each. Just go buy a couple, stick them on car power somewhere and see if they work out. If they do, then use them in your application. If they don't then try something else. What we seem to have here is paralysis by analysis. --R (BSLED, Smoke Test School of Engineering)
[MBZ] The new D-C way to design cars...
The following is copied from an Email sent out by AutoWeek magazine. While this may make economic sense, it seems to follow the GM/Ford/Chrysler model, and we know how well that has worked in the long haul. Mercedes' Common Components M-B will develop cars that share subsystems By TONY LEWIN | AUTOMOTIVE NEWS AutoWeek | Updated: 03/07/07, 10:53 am et STUTTGART - Mercedes-Benz is changing the way it develops new models. Under the new system, engineers will choose from a growing supply of common components to build new cars. Previously, engineers developed dedicated systems for each new model series. We no longer have five different handles for five different vehicles, Mercedes CEO Dieter Zetsche told Automotive News Europe at last month's presentation of the new C class, the first model to benefit from the new process. We have one perfect handle. Part of the change includes the restructuring of the carmaker's engineering and development teams. We have switched from a vertical organization where the chief engineer was running the show to a situation where you have component teams that develop leading-edge systems that different models can share, Zetsche said. Some other examples of cost sharing among car lines include common seat structures, electronic architectures, sensors, wiring and software. Mercedes also went from using six sunroofs to one, reducing the cost by 25 percent. The new C class will share its new electronic architecture with all future Mercedes models. In addition, the C class uses the same climate control module as the recently revised E class and the same front axle as its predecessor C class. Asked to quantify the savings, Zetsche said: I could, but I won't. -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/gif Size: 43 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20070308/860245ed/attachment.gif
Re: [MBZ] Resister to lower voltage to use LEDS as small lights
Agreed. They have 12v automotive applications for LED's all over. I've bought some LED trailer lights. Guess what? They work. Much better than regular ones too. I'd be willing to bet they'll last a lot longer than regular bulbs... Come to think of it, I seem to recall an old electronics kit I had with variable voltages and light. When I was tired of it and just monkeying around I cranked the voltage all the way up and tried out various things. The regular bulbs blew pretty quick. The LED was the only thing that didn't. (the motor spun really fast for a minute, but that's not related to lights) (: Levi On 3/8/07, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I bought a couple of 12V LEDs a the electronic toystore for like $0.99 each. Just go buy a couple, stick them on car power somewhere and see if they work out. If they do, then use them in your application. If they don't then try something else. What we seem to have here is paralysis by analysis. --R (BSLED, Smoke Test School of Engineering) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The new D-C way to design cars...
The following is copied from an Email sent out by AutoWeek magazine. While this may make economic sense, it seems to follow the GM/Ford/Chrysler model, and we know how well that has worked in the long haul. Great, GM design-by-committee! Bodes not well for high-quality vehicles. Remember that Cadillac used to be a very high quality car? But now it feeds from the same GM parts trough as the cheapest car they make. If they already had a perfect door handle, there'd be no reason to change it for a new model. I don't buy the argument. They should have just said it's cheaper. The fact that the sunroof, say, won't be matched in size to the vehicle isn't supposed to bother anybody. Certainly not the accountants now running the show! And, of course, once your perfect door handle is no longer so perfect for the application well too bad. Too many things use it for you to be able to change that one perfect handle. I predict stagnation in the parts supply. Versus the well-known dictum grow or die. A co-worker just bought a new Kia, and was very favorably impressed with the quality he got for his money... -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] weather bothers
To clarify, I don't believe the Chinese pollution is not making Seattle and the Pac.NW wetter in all seasons, just more prone to VIOLENT storms. On 3/7/07, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not to mention the volcanos and earthquakes. On 3/7/07, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You guys have something even more dangerous to ones health than a tornado -- potato skins! -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. Will Rogers '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Resister to lower voltage to use LEDS as small lights
Agreed. They have 12v automotive applications for LED's all over. I've bought some LED trailer lights. Guess what? They work. Much better than regular ones too. I hate them. But if they'd just put some soft-start logic in there for the brake light function I'd be happy again. I just hate that bright instantaneous flash when compared to filament thermal lag. I find it jarring. Same with red LED stoplights. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Nice 280E Euro on Portland, OR Craigslist
Pea soup is the European Benz lover's color of choice. On 3/7/07, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pressure may just mean fuel pressure, not compression. If it's compression, I have a good 280 Euro engine for sale. If I had less cars and more money, I'd love to have a twin cam 280E Loren At 06:06 PM 3/7/2007, you wrote: http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/car/290184334.html Check out the stick shift and manual climate controls! Too bad about the engine, though. Maybe a diesel swap candidate? Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Why no minivan
Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The name 'Moose test' (German 'Elchtest') was invented by German journalists after this event, with regards to the scenario of an elk on the road, which is a likely occurrence in Sweden but not in Germany. Around my neck of the woods its deer. It's a rare drive home from work where I don't see at least one or two near the road, if not on the road. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230
Re: [MBZ] The new D-C way to design cars...
What do the Japanese do? Chris Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The following is copied from an Email sent out by AutoWeek magazine. While this may make economic sense, it seems to follow the GM/Ford/Chrysler model, and we know how well that has worked in the long haul. Great, GM design-by-committee! Bodes not well for high-quality vehicles. Remember that Cadillac used to be a very high quality car? But now it feeds from the same GM parts trough as the cheapest car they make. If they already had a perfect door handle, there'd be no reason to change it for a new model. I don't buy the argument. They should have just said it's cheaper. The fact that the sunroof, say, won't be matched in size to the vehicle isn't supposed to bother anybody. Certainly not the accountants now running the show! And, of course, once your perfect door handle is no longer so perfect for the application well too bad. Too many things use it for you to be able to change that one perfect handle. I predict stagnation in the parts supply. Versus the well-known dictum grow or die. A co-worker just bought a new Kia, and was very favorably impressed with the quality he got for his money... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Mar 08 16:52:40 2007 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.171]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1HPLr4-0004uY-6O for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Thu, 08 Mar 2007 16:52:40 + Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id s2so975945uge for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Thu, 08 Mar 2007 08:52:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.115.77.1 with SMTP id e1mr202441wal.1173372749546; Thu, 08 Mar 2007 08:52:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.115.92.4 with HTTP; Thu, 8 Mar 2007 08:52:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 11:52:29 -0500 From: Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9.cp2 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Resister to lower voltage to use LEDS as small lights X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 16:52:41 - They are jarring. But that's part of why they work well. It tends to get people's attention more. I don't have them on my car, But I agree, on a dark night when you're directly behind someone they sometimes seem a little too bright, but they certainly get my attention more than normal ones... But other than brake lights, I don't think I've ever had an application where the instantaneous on was even noticeable, let alone a problem... Levi On 3/8/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Agreed. They have 12v automotive applications for LED's all over. I've bought some LED trailer lights. Guess what? They work. Much better than regular ones too. I hate them. But if they'd just put some soft-start logic in there for the brake light function I'd be happy again. I just hate that bright instantaneous flash when compared to filament thermal lag. I find it jarring. Same with red LED stoplights. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Resister to lower voltage to use LEDS as small lights
Levi Smith wrote: They are jarring. But that's part of why they work well. It tends to get people's attention more. I don't have them on my car, But I agree, on a dark night when you're directly behind someone they sometimes seem a little too bright, but they certainly get my attention more than normal ones... But other than brake lights, I don't think I've ever had an application where the instantaneous on was even noticeable, let alone a problem... Yeah, I like the instant on too. Just a preference thing... It would be nice if auto manufacturers would use that same sensor for automatically turning on headlights to slightly dim all the outside indicator lights (like most radio's do when you turn on the headlights). John '79 300SD
Re: [MBZ] W126 turn signals don't cancel- fix or replace?
Simple enough to do, sort of hard to get right. I have done it to Gump twice. I have yet to get BOTH sides to hold after doing it. One or the other, but not both. On Mar 8, 2007, at 6:36 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: You have to file a notch in it a little bit. Believe it or not I have never done this procedure but supposedly its very simple. Tony Wirtel wrote: Wondering if this can be fixed- it looks like there is a cam on the steering column shaft thats supposed to trip something on the switch that isn't there. Darned junk plastics failing after 21 years! Tony wirtel '85 300sd ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] weather bothers
My understanding is that particulate increase has resulted in a great ability for storms and precipitation to be seeded with greater success. Not as poorly executed as the japanese fire ballooning in WWII. Just goes to show a lot of small things make for really big results On Mar 8, 2007, at 8:39 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: To clarify, I don't believe the Chinese pollution is not making Seattle and the Pac.NW wetter in all seasons, just more prone to VIOLENT storms. On 3/7/07, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not to mention the volcanos and earthquakes. On 3/7/07, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You guys have something even more dangerous to ones health than a tornado -- potato skins! -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. Will Rogers '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] Exciting stuff
No No No, this has been the most fascinating thread in years. I can't wait to learn more about the differences between brinelling and dimpling. Although it is hard to focus because I am also trying to keep an eye on that bit of paint that is drying... I'm taking a chair out back to watch the grass grow. If I can stand the excitement. RLE ** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.
Re: [MBZ] Exciting stuff
Should work. Rain will be making it really sprout up with the recent warmth. Did you not just mow during our recent heat wave? On Mar 8, 2007, at 12:14 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No No No, this has been the most fascinating thread in years. I can't wait to learn more about the differences between brinelling and dimpling. Although it is hard to focus because I am also trying to keep an eye on that bit of paint that is drying... I'm taking a chair out back to watch the grass grow. If I can stand the excitement. RLE ** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] 79 300SD vacuum valve adjustment
Thanks, Allan, for passing that along. The tranny in my '83 300SD has the harsh 1st to 2nd shift while the other gear changes are normal. I figured that any adjustment to soften the 1-2 shift would cause flairing in the 2-3 and 3-4 shifts. I guess I'll just leave it alone. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 266K miles, Ursula
