Re: [MBZ] Vibrations was - Pilot bearing failure?
I think its electrical as when you press the pedal the brake lights come one - in fact perhaps they don't come on and that's the whole problem PEter -Original Message- From: R A Bennell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 October 2007 17:41 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vibrations was - Pilot bearing failure? Not if it continues when the vehicle is stopped. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tom Hargrave Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 10:35 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vibrations was - Pilot bearing failure? Since the vibration is related to pressing the brake pedal, the issue must be one or both warped rotors. Tom www.kegkits.com Original Message From: Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10/16/07 10:26 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vibrations was - Pilot bearing failure? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= I have a head scratcher in Gump. The new transmission was installed fine, but now I have a resonance/vibration from the front end when I am stopped and brake pedal is depressed. Initial vibrations starts at initial brake engagement and lasts until I get off the brakes. Transmission in neutral, idle speed. clay On 16 Oct 2007, at 07:12, Jim Cathey wrote: even replicate this on reverse torque ( engine driven by wheels - downhill travel even when engine switched off). The sound is quite powerfull and does not feel like a unbalanced flywheel/propshaft. That's a big clue. Not for me, unfortunately, but it ought to tell somebody a lot. If it was clutch or pilot bearing related I would expect that it could be teased away by operating the clutch. I had a car with an unbalanced something, and I'd just run the clutch a few times until the thing got into a sweet spot and didn't do it anymore. Until the next time you shifted up into high. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300D valuation
Peter Frederick wrote: The insurance company called me today and told me they valued my smashed 87 300D at $1650. Peter, I missed your accident report. What happened and how did the car absorb the impact. I often wonder how my '87 would protect me in a bad one. Wray ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: would you buy a rental car?
I would never buy a rental, just based on how i've driven my rentals the past two months. And I normally drive quite conservatively, but city driving just brings out the worst habits in me. On 10/16/07, John M McIntosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=rental+car +abusesearch=Search Still they would be newer, they likely had regular approved service, how would you know the treatment was *any* different than a car from some used car lot which has no history... Is there some large difference in pricing driving this decsion? On Oct 16, 2007, at 8:58 AM, Allan Streib wrote: Couple of people I know have been happy with cars they bought from Enterprise. I've also heard horror stories about the things people do to rental cars. Any opinions? Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com John 1983 300TDt 384k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1990's 300TDt 208k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1993 500SEL 198k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 614-441-8164 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1974 240D manny
on 10/17/07 3:53, Kevin Kraly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would most likely RIP out the *cough* Peugeot seats and find some stock Mercedes seats to put back in. Heh. Try them first. You might fall in love. NO ONE can do *comfy* car seats like the French. Usually as comfortable as expensive furniture, while not feeling mooshy (unless of course these are shot). If you want ergonomic seats, it's the Swedes. Mac ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] extended cranking e320
My 1997 e320 is taking more cranking to start lately. Has 133K and I changed the plugs a few hundred miles ago, old plugs looked good. Any ideas on what may be causing it to take more cranks to start? This morning I turned it over for about 10 seconds before it started. Some ideas I had are fuel filter, as well as the security device in the key. The car will not start with a valet key, needs to be the fob so I guess there is a sensor near the ignition. Perhaps my fob battery is low, although it opens/closes the doors just fine. Dave Wakin ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] extended cranking e320
may be causing it to take more cranks to start? This morning I turned it over for about 10 seconds before it started. How's your spark plug wires? :-) Get spouse to start it in full darkness with the hood up while you have a close look. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] VW Eurovans
Allen Wrote: I've suddenly been stricken with the idea of trying to find a VW Eurovan in good shape. I really like the seating configuration and interior space layout. Anyone have any experience with them? I had a Jetta years ago and was quite satisfied with it. How is the VR6 engine, longevity-wise? I know the old wasserboxer in the Vanagon was pretty high maintenance. I don't own one, but spent a week in one once. They're a pleasure to drive, handle quite well considering, have very comfortable seats all around, and lots of space. The VR6 is supposed to be a good mill, and has plenty of power, but is thirsty: a friend of mine with a passat wagon gets 17 or so in town, and she's a mom with small kids who drives conservatively. VWs in general have horrible reliability ratings in recent years, and my friends with new ones have all been affected. Electrical, mainly, but pretty much everything else, too. I know folks who've had vanagons forever that eventually went to Eurovans and were mightily disappointed on the reliability front. I wouldn't buy one. Check consumer reports. I have two vanagons, one with a eurospec turbodiesel, one with a Jetta gas engine. THey're both westfalias, and I love 'em. There's nothing like 'em, and the conversions--both very satisfying--get around the Wasserboxer problem. Were I to want a 7-passenger van and didn't want to go to a lot of trouble, I'd probably get a stock Toyota Previa with a stick shift-- they're mid-engined, handle very well, have legendary Toyota quality, get decent milage and power out of their 2.5 liter 4, and have very flexible interiors. If you're willing to get an automatic, you can get a turbo version of the same engine for a bit more power. Were I interested in going to some trouble, I'd get a late-model vanagon (they were made until '90) and have Hans at vanaru.com install a subaru engine in it. Any subie motor will fit, Hans does a great job, and the result is a very reliable, quiet vanagon, with anything from plenty of power to a rediculous amount of power, as even the sixes and the SVX tiresmoker will fit back there. Or, you can get thewestfaliaman.com to install a VW TDI motor in one--another good option if you wanted to stay diesel. Either conversion will run you about 8 grand, I think (don't quote me), plus the cost of the vehicle. Vanagons aside from their wasserboxer engines are great vehicles--50/50 weight distribution, so they handle great, 1-ton capacity chassis, so you can really fill 'em up, and since most of the weight is still between the wheels, they stay level and ride and handle even BETTER, and they have much more room than other minivans. They're in a class by themselves in that regard. They also crash test pretty well, in spite of appearances--they've got very beefy front ends designed specifically for that. Engine over the drive wheels gives them decent traction, and they're very good on rough roads or for limited off-road use. I love driving mine, and am regularly gone for 5k miles at a shot for work, living and working out of the van the whole time. If I had a choice between getting rid of my westy or my SD, the SD would be gone in a heartbeat, much as I love it. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] extended cranking e320
Car doesn't have typical wires - there are 3 coils, each run 2 plugs. Coils mount on top of one plug, and there is a short wire to other plug. I will check though. I changed the plugs about 4 months ago (which equals maybe 200 miles on the car since then, only drive a mile or two a day) I thought of your sl this morning when it happened, as it was very misty/foggy this morning. Dave Wakin - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 8:33 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] extended cranking e320 may be causing it to take more cranks to start? This morning I turned it over for about 10 seconds before it started. How's your spark plug wires? :-) Get spouse to start it in full darkness with the hood up while you have a close look. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '94 E420 available in Des Moines
They are VERY nice, I love mine. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 6:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '94 E420 available in Des Moines E420's are really nice cars. Wish I could afford one. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wonko the Sane Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 6:48 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] '94 E420 available in Des Moines Black black, well cared for by wealthy owner, $5K would probably take it. From what I hear (and I don't mean by the owner) it is flawless. No, I don't have the cashflow to support purchase. -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: VW Eurovan (was: would you buy a rental car?)
The VR6's that I have delt with have been reliable. No major problems that I'm aware of and they seem to hold up quite well. Harry 69 280 SEL 72 350SL ? 04 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata ? -Original Message- From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 9:39 pm Subject: [MBZ] OT: VW Eurovan (was: would you buy a rental car?) We are looking for a minivan; I've suddenly been stricken with the idea of trying to find a VW Eurovan in good shape. I really like the seating configuration and interior space layout. Anyone have any experience with them? I had a Jetta years ago and was quite satisfied with it. How is the VR6 engine, longevity-wise? I know the old wasserboxer in the Vanagon was pretty high maintenance. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- Unlimited storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 94 E420
Is the 94 E420 a 124? Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 94 E420
wilton strickland wrote: Is the 94 E420 a 124? Yep ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300D valuation
Wray Stanley wrote: Peter, I missed your accident report. What happened and how did the car absorb the impact. I often wonder how my '87 would protect me in a bad one. A van ran a red light, hit him in the driver's door at speed: Subject: [MBZ] Squashed 300D pics Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 16:35:03 -0500 From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Here's the pics of my car. I lightened one to show the interior as best as possible, I didn't take them the insurance adjuster did. You can see the imprint of the van bumper on the door. The other three doors open. Peter Peter -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smash.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 68519 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20070927/9ca2a1c3/attachment.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 2111e.JPG Type: image/jpg Size: 74744 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20070927/9ca2a1c3/attachment-0001.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 2111f.JPG Type: image/jpg Size: 70902 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20070927/9ca2a1c3/attachment-0002.jpg ___ Subject: [MBZ] 87 300D did it's job, RIP Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 14:10:30 -0500 From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com References: 1 Dingdong in JE Sheckel service van blew at red light on the highway this morning about 7:30 and totaled my 300D. Hit the front door as I drove across the highway doing about 60, wasn't watching the road (duh). I got away with some glass embedded in my left arm (gotta go have that dug out in the next day or to, I think) and some very sore ribs. Didn't break the fountain pens in my front pocket or bend up my reading glasses. Dash is completely crushed, had to break out the climate control pushbutton unit and drive the side back to get the glove box open (my brother did, I'm not able!) to get my stuff out, like the spare set of rear pads I've not gotten around to getting installed. A helpful passerby found some long needlenose pliers (probably off the Sheckel van) and turned the engine off, it was running about half throttle and boiling (no radiator cap to keep the pressure off the cracked head). The keys are about 6 inside the dash now, it's that badly crushed. Climate control split in half and folded up, center vent crunched, what a mess. Front doorpost is pushed in at least 18, tire is lying over at 45 degrees or more (lower control arm not bent much if at all), door is pushed in at least a foot. Windshield is busted, floor pan is VERY narrow, console cover is torn up and shoved up 6 or so. I unbuckled and climbed out the passenger side. Other than the punch in the ribs I'm fine, got a cut from my exploded coffee cup that flew out of my carrier bag. Cell phone still works in spite of being thrown onto the floor under the front seat from my bag in the right seat, haven't tried the computer yet, but the bag was still on the front seat where I left it. I ended up pointing straight south rolling down the median from going straight east, no skid marks other than my tires going sideways, I don't think he ever touched the brakes. Other driver was fine, airbags went off, so that's good (although I'm NOT pleased at my car being wiped). Not a good feeling to look up and see a vehicle speeding toward you less than 6 ft away and thinking, oh s this is gonna be bad. Didn't even black out, didn't hit my head, didn't bang my hip, knee, or feet. I feel much better about my mother driving a 300 TE, as much of a pain as it has been keeping it running nicely (idle and AC problems, finally fixed). At least if she gets slammed she is unlikely to be hurt. What a car! Now I gotta find another one.. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Post Falls SL
OK, so the plug wires are shot and I need to get new ones. But what can I do _today_? I need to be driving this car, if at all possible. So, I pulled the coil wire, wiped it down, and put it in the shop oven to dry. While drying, I cleaned the dirt out of the coil cover and put it in the oven too. The wire was then warm, and presumably dry, so I then dipped the wire part in a can of lacquer, let it drip off a bit, then put it in the oven. After a few minutes it wasn't tacky anymore but was still flexible, so I put it back in the car. Where it had been arcing to the valve cover I wound electrical tape around it, then dipped that too. After a bit of drying, I took it back to the car, cut a length of bicycle inner tube (mountain-bike size) and slipped the wire through it. (Belt _and_ suspenders!) The two worst offenders from last night, #5 and #7, also got the lacquer treatment. The bundle of spark wires (#'s 5-8) were tubed as well. (That tube had to be slit open and tie-wrapped back together. The other four spark wires were routed much better, but I still tubed them too, through the point where they went through a plastic grommet on the way to the plugs. I then cut some more rubber and placed it over the idle solenoid, as one of the wires goes close to that. I put the valve cover back on, and cut some rubber to go between it and any spark wiring that wasn't already well-protected. This entire procedure added at least one extra layer of insulation anyplace the wires were touching metal. For grins I pulled plugs 1-4, and they didn't look too bad. They could use a good cleaning, but I didn't have time this morning. The plug sockets were all Beru, as were the cap ends that I checked. The car started _much_ easier than on most mornings, although it _was_ dry, and idled at a much more reasonable RPM. I think I'm on to something here! Now I just have to remember to actually replace the wires. (Out of sight, out of mind...) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Post Falls SL
What, no old refrigerator metal getting welded on the ends to form new connectors? I am so disappointed! --R Jim Cathey wrote: OK, so the plug wires are shot and I need to get new ones. But what can I do _today_? I need to be driving this car, if at all possible. So, I pulled the coil wire, wiped it down, and put it in the shop oven to dry. While drying, I cleaned the dirt out of the coil cover and put it in the oven too. The wire was then warm, and presumably dry, so I then dipped the wire part in a can of lacquer, let it drip off a bit, then put it in the oven. After a few minutes it wasn't tacky anymore but was still flexible, so I put it back in the car. Where it had been arcing to the valve cover I wound electrical tape around it, then dipped that too. After a bit of drying, I took it back to the car, cut a length of bicycle inner tube (mountain-bike size) and slipped the wire through it. (Belt _and_ suspenders!) The two worst offenders from last night, #5 and #7, also got the lacquer treatment. The bundle of spark wires (#'s 5-8) were tubed as well. (That tube had to be slit open and tie-wrapped back together. The other four spark wires were routed much better, but I still tubed them too, through the point where they went through a plastic grommet on the way to the plugs. I then cut some more rubber and placed it over the idle solenoid, as one of the wires goes close to that. I put the valve cover back on, and cut some rubber to go between it and any spark wiring that wasn't already well-protected. This entire procedure added at least one extra layer of insulation anyplace the wires were touching metal. For grins I pulled plugs 1-4, and they didn't look too bad. They could use a good cleaning, but I didn't have time this morning. The plug sockets were all Beru, as were the cap ends that I checked. The car started _much_ easier than on most mornings, although it _was_ dry, and idled at a much more reasonable RPM. I think I'm on to something here! Now I just have to remember to actually replace the wires. (Out of sight, out of mind...) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Oh, perverse humanity
Spotted a somewhat unusual beast at my indy's yesterday: a diesel W140 (S350 TURBODIESEL badges on the back) looking very well-kept and elegant except for the crudely-welded, obviously homebrew WVO tank and coolant-driven heater setup taking up the front third of the trunk. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 squirrely rear, yet again
Well, my indy didn't get a chance to drive the car, but said that there was nothing loose or broken at first glance in the rear end. I'll take it back next week and leave it with him with very specific instructions as to what conditions consistently provoke the symptoms. I think right now he thinks I'm imagining things (wouldn't be the first time he's thought that and later been proven wrong). On 10/17/07, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of the wheels wasn't tightened properly and is becoming loose? They're tight. That was the first thing I thought of, that I'd forgotten the customary 500-mile retorque. I don't know about the subframe mounts, will check that. Thanks for the heads up about the axle, Aaron. I will check that too. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300D valuation
Mitch Haley wrote: A van ran a red light, hit him in the driver's door at speed: Subject: [MBZ] Squashed 300D pics Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 16:35:03 -0500 From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Here's the pics of my car. I lightened one to show the interior as best as possible, I didn't take them the insurance adjuster did. You can see the imprint of the van bumper on the door. The other three doors open. Peter You're a fortunate man, Peter. I'd hate to see what my wife's Taurus, and my wife, would look like after that hit. You can certainly see the benefit of the tubular steel brace behind the dash. Every time I do a major repair to my '87, such as the current evaporator replacement, I get these Why don't you get rid of that car and get something newer? A '98 or '99 is not in my budget right now. I'll show her these pics. Wray ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 94 E420
On 10/18/07, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
wilton strickland wrote:
Is the 94 E420 a 124?
Yep
It's the second-generation ('94-'95) 124, to be precise. In '94 was
the Great Renaming (when the letters went before the numbers). Also
an across-the-board cost-cutting program, (vide the removal from the
W140 of features like the automatic parking feelers etc.), and, some
say, the beginning of the big decline in quality that afflicted
Mercedes in the '90s and early '00s. Lower hood, different grill,
smoother tail, better headlights, 16 wheels with a wider offset stock
on many models... am I missing anything?
Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo
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Re: [MBZ] 87 300D valuation
Before you do anything else, try to get Joe Knight to cough up the URL for the guys in virginia that did (at the cost of $25-35) a value range assessment of the vehicle, You answer a bunch of questions about the vehicle in question, and they return back the fair market value range of the vehicle. While not an appraisal, it is incredibly effective at getting an insurance company to call up quickly offering to send an appraiser out on their dime. Another thing to consider is to ask them to get a salvage bid for the vehicle, rather than just arbirtrarily taking 20% or so off the top for you taking the vehicle. Copart (or whomever) rarely pays them that much upon hearing how the vehicle is damaged (probably would be in the range of $400 for your car), and the insurance company typically pockets the rest. If this doesn't get Joe out of the woodwork, I'll dig through my archives and see if I still have his note. On Wed, Oct 17, 2007 at 07:05:24PM -0500, Peter Frederick wrote: The insurance company called me today and told me they valued my smashed 87 300D at $1650. I laughed and told them I'd just bought an identical car for $4800 and they needed to try again -- typical value is $3000 to $4500 depending on condition. I sure would have asked a lot more than $1650 for it if I was selling it! I think this is gonna be fun, I'll have to pull some auction data off eBay and persuade them, I think -- no way am I gonna take less than $3500 for it, and that's with the car. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 94 E420
Alex Chamberlain wrote:
It's the second-generation ('94-'95) 124, to be precise. In '94 was
the Great Renaming (when the letters went before the numbers). Also
an across-the-board cost-cutting program,
Yes. That was the new model year that a Mercedes exec was bragging about
reducing production costs by 35%.
Wray
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Re: [MBZ] extended cranking e320
Don't know if this would apply in your case on the MB, but my b-in-l who is a mechanic says that if and when I change the spark plugs in my F150 I should also get the boots that go onto the plugs under the coils. He says they cause troubles if they get old and leak electricity. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dave Wakin Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 7:57 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] extended cranking e320 Car doesn't have typical wires - there are 3 coils, each run 2 plugs. Coils mount on top of one plug, and there is a short wire to other plug. I will check though. I changed the plugs about 4 months ago (which equals maybe 200 miles on the car since then, only drive a mile or two a day) I thought of your sl this morning when it happened, as it was very misty/foggy this morning. Dave Wakin - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 8:33 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] extended cranking e320 may be causing it to take more cranks to start? This morning I turned it over for about 10 seconds before it started. How's your spark plug wires? :-) Get spouse to start it in full darkness with the hood up while you have a close look. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] New Mercedes Diesel
Hello, Was reading about the new Diesel on the MB website and they talk about new piezoelectric fuel injectors which contribute to the efficiency of the engine. I'm trying to understand how the piezoelectric concept helps the injectors? I read Wikipaedia and it says Piezioelectric is the ability of some materials (notably crystals and certain ceramics) to generate an electric potential and while I understand what they are saying (sort of), I can't grasp how it helps fuel injectors. Previous injectors were controlled by electrical pulses from the ECU as I understand it - but I can't see how the Piezio effect would be better. Can someone provide a easily understood paragraph or 2? BTW, the new diesel is now available in the E Class, ML, GL and R class. While I cannot afford a new MB perhaps in a few years I can find a nice used one. Thx - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: non US license plate
I was in town out here in the boonies and saw a Volvo XC90 with what I suspect were European plates. I was unable to see anything that I could identify the country of origin. It was a tad shorter than a US plate, but much wider. I think it would fit nicely between the taillights of my W123. So I figured _the_ list could help my curiosity. The format is AD:FXnnn with each n=a numeral. Is this conclusive for identification? Or is European all I get? *smile* -- Philip, in the middle of a heater core job on a W123... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] loose air cleaner, 300D
This morning at a stoplight, I heard a low pitched vibration, almost a clunking sound, coming from the front right of the car. Got to work and opened the hood -- the air cleaner housing is sagging to the right and intermittently making contact with the wheel well sheet metal. I wedged some rolled-up cardboard between the air cleaner housing and the wheel well to temporarily silence this noise, but what do I need to repair this properly? Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] VW Eurovans
Dan Weeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: VWs in general have horrible reliability ratings in recent years, and my friends with new ones have all been affected. Electrical, mainly, but pretty much everything else, too. I know folks who've had vanagons forever that eventually went to Eurovans and were mightily disappointed on the reliability front. I wouldn't buy one. Check consumer reports. Now that you say that I do recall a couple of people saying to avoid late model VWs, with electrical issues being the main concern. I guess I mentally filed that away as being related to the Jettas and Golfs, but sounds like it is an across-the-board problem? There does happen to be a '91 Vanagon for sale nearby, can't tell what kind of shape its in from the ad. Claims to have had rebuilt heads (the need for this is not uncommon from what I recall). Other than the engine, are there any other problems that these vehicles are prone to? My Jetta was a '91 and was remarkably resistant to rust even though it spent its life in northern Illinois and Indiana, saturated in salt for most of the winter months year after year. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: non US license plate
I think diplomats can bring over their own cars and don't have to re-plate them. Exempt from DOT requirements as well. Are you near D.C.? I've also occasionally seen people who do this for cosmetic reasons with a euro plate in the normal location and their state plate tucked in the back window or something. Probably not strictly legal. Allan Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was in town out here in the boonies and saw a Volvo XC90 with what I suspect were European plates. I was unable to see anything that I could identify the country of origin. It was a tad shorter than a US plate, but much wider. I think it would fit nicely between the taillights of my W123. So I figured _the_ list could help my curiosity. The format is AD:FXnnn with each n=a numeral. Is this conclusive for identification? Or is European all I get? *smile* -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] loose air cleaner, 300D
Broken air cleaner mount or broken rubber bumpers. I'm betting on a broken mount. I've heard of a lot of these failing, but I've never actually seen one that failed. Can be fixed with a welder, microwave oven parts, and shoe goo. Of course, you could always just call Rusty... Gary Thompson 1995 E320 On 10/18/07, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This morning at a stoplight, I heard a low pitched vibration, almost a clunking sound, coming from the front right of the car. Got to work and opened the hood -- the air cleaner housing is sagging to the right and intermittently making contact with the wheel well sheet metal. I wedged some rolled-up cardboard between the air cleaner housing and the wheel well to temporarily silence this noise, but what do I need to repair this properly? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] extended cranking e320
This is absolutely true. The plug boots that sit below each coil pack absorb a lot of heat and moving them around while changing the plugs has caused more than one to fail. The wires that go out the side of the coil pack to the other spark plug bank tend to fail less often. Most often the failure mode is such that you will feel an occaisional miss ant idle, but engine will run fine at speed. Guess a hard start could occue as well, but I hadn't heard that one. Gary Thompson 1995 E320 On 10/18/07, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't know if this would apply in your case on the MB, but my b-in-l who is a mechanic says that if and when I change the spark plugs in my F150 I should also get the boots that go onto the plugs under the coils. He says they cause troubles if they get old and leak electricity. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 94 E420
Wray Stanley wrote: Yes. That was the new model year that a Mercedes exec was bragging about reducing production costs by 35%. Was the 1994 W202 substantially cheaper to make than the 1993 W201? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Zerex G-05/ $9.95 at Autozone
In a message dated 10/8/2007 10:40:34 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dear all, This most likely has been addressed before by this august forum, but I forgot how often the coolant should be changed. Every 30 K? 3 years? Where do you get it these days? Used to be NAPA for my location. Thanks. David I would change every 2 years, 3 max if you can do a pH test and the pH is 8 or less. My local Autozone, in Chandler,AZ, has a big sign saying Zerex G-05 is on sale for $9.95. I got two this morning. NAPA still has it but $12.95 in my store nearby. Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 264 K miles 98 ML 320, 152 K miles ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] loose air cleaner, 300D
Allan Streib wrote: Got to work and opened the hood -- the air cleaner housing is sagging to the right and intermittently making contact with the wheel well sheet metal. The W123? There's a bracket above the turbo that the air cleaner is mounted on via three rubber buffers. Sounds like your bracket broke. The one on my 300SD was brazed before I bought the car, doing OK so far. My air cleaner was bolted right to the bracket, so I bought three buffers from Rusty. Some people like to put a broken buffer or a shock absorber mount donut between the housing and the valve cover to stabilize it, they claim the bracket lasts longer that way. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] loose air cleaner, 300D
replace the air cleaner bracket? --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 12:11 PM Subject: [MBZ] loose air cleaner, 300D This morning at a stoplight, I heard a low pitched vibration, almost a clunking sound, coming from the front right of the car. Got to work and opened the hood -- the air cleaner housing is sagging to the right and intermittently making contact with the wheel well sheet metal. I wedged some rolled-up cardboard between the air cleaner housing and the wheel well to temporarily silence this noise, but what do I need to repair this properly? Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] loose air cleaner, 300D
You need a new air cleaner bracket and mounts. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 1:11 PM Subject: [MBZ] loose air cleaner, 300D This morning at a stoplight, I heard a low pitched vibration, almost a clunking sound, coming from the front right of the car. Got to work and opened the hood -- the air cleaner housing is sagging to the right and intermittently making contact with the wheel well sheet metal. I wedged some rolled-up cardboard between the air cleaner housing and the wheel well to temporarily silence this noise, but what do I need to repair this properly? Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] loose air cleaner, 300D
I wonder where he could buy those? --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 12:36 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] loose air cleaner, 300D You need a new air cleaner bracket and mounts. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 1:11 PM Subject: [MBZ] loose air cleaner, 300D This morning at a stoplight, I heard a low pitched vibration, almost a clunking sound, coming from the front right of the car. Got to work and opened the hood -- the air cleaner housing is sagging to the right and intermittently making contact with the wheel well sheet metal. I wedged some rolled-up cardboard between the air cleaner housing and the wheel well to temporarily silence this noise, but what do I need to repair this properly? Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New Mercedes Diesel
They respond (open and close) much faster, allowing more control of the injection cycle. Thanks, Tom 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 10/18/07 12:09 PM Subject: [MBZ] New Mercedes Diesel Hello, Was reading about the new Diesel on the MB website and they talk about new piezoelectric fuel injectors which contribute to the efficiency of the engine. I'm trying to understand how the piezoelectric concept helps the injectors? I read Wikipaedia and it says Piezioelectric is the ability of some materials (notably crystals and certain ceramics) to generate an electric potential and while I understand what they are saying (sort of), I can't grasp how it helps fuel injectors. Previous injectors were controlled by electrical pulses from the ECU as I understand it - but I can't see how the Piezio effect would be better. Can someone provide a easily understood paragraph or 2? BTW, the new diesel is now available in the E Class, ML, GL and R class. While I cannot afford a new MB perhaps in a few years I can find a nice used one. Thx - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] loose air cleaner, 300D
NAPA? Pep Boys? AutoZone? (just kidding). Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hmm? Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 1:59 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] loose air cleaner, 300D I wonder where he could buy those? --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 12:36 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] loose air cleaner, 300D You need a new air cleaner bracket and mounts. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New Mercedes Diesel/Piezio
Piezio to me was: hit a rock, generate a spark. This would be the opposite; provide a spark will move a valve, a glorified solenoid valve. These electronic injectors are so quick that they permit 3 to 5 firings per power stroke, which controls the severity of the flame front travel and gets more power while reducing the noise level and emissions. They respond (open and close) much faster, allowing more control of the injection cycle. Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 264 K miles 98 ML 320, 152 K miles ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] loose air cleaner, 300D
Hmm? Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 1:59 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] loose air cleaner, 300D I wonder where he could buy those? --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 12:36 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] loose air cleaner, 300D You need a new air cleaner bracket and mounts. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 1:11 PM Subject: [MBZ] loose air cleaner, 300D This morning at a stoplight, I heard a low pitched vibration, almost a clunking sound, coming from the front right of the car. Got to work and opened the hood -- the air cleaner housing is sagging to the right and intermittently making contact with the wheel well sheet metal. I wedged some rolled-up cardboard between the air cleaner housing and the wheel well to temporarily silence this noise, but what do I need to repair this properly? Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] loose air cleaner, 300D
Maybe Randy Steele? --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 1:30 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] loose air cleaner, 300D Hmm? Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 1:59 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] loose air cleaner, 300D I wonder where he could buy those? --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 12:36 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] loose air cleaner, 300D You need a new air cleaner bracket and mounts. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 1:11 PM Subject: [MBZ] loose air cleaner, 300D This morning at a stoplight, I heard a low pitched vibration, almost a clunking sound, coming from the front right of the car. Got to work and opened the hood -- the air cleaner housing is sagging to the right and intermittently making contact with the wheel well sheet metal. I wedged some rolled-up cardboard between the air cleaner housing and the wheel well to temporarily silence this noise, but what do I need to repair this properly? Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: non US license plate
It seems than at Thu, 18 Oct 2007 13:21:56 -0400, Allan wrote: I think diplomats can bring over their own cars and don't have to re-plate them. Exempt from DOT requirements as well. Are you near D.C.? Deep in the Ozarks in south central Missouri - a _long_ way from D.C.!! I've also occasionally seen people who do this for cosmetic reasons with a euro plate in the normal location and their state plate tucked in the back window or something. Probably not strictly legal. Hmm. I didn't look for that -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] loose air cleaner, 300D
Allan, As others have already indicated, it's probably your air cleaner bracket which has broken and, if you haven't changed the rubber bumpers in recent years, you'll probably be money ahead to get these at the same time. I got tired of the air cleaner bracket breaking every 2-3 years, and this was when I was storing the car in winter months, so I had a heavy gauge piece of steel welded to the area of poor design where they always seemed to break on my '84 300D. This was 3-4 years ago and the thing is still in one piece. P.S. - Some have suggested in the past about installed a rubber shock doughnut between the air cleaner housing and valve cover to dampen the vibration. My experience has shown that this didn't help, as the lousy brackets break anyway. Good luck. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] loose air cleaner, 300D
Who? Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 2:41 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] loose air cleaner, 300D Maybe Randy Steele? --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 1:30 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] loose air cleaner, 300D Hmm? Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 1:59 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] loose air cleaner, 300D I wonder where he could buy those? --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 12:36 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] loose air cleaner, 300D You need a new air cleaner bracket and mounts. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 1:11 PM Subject: [MBZ] loose air cleaner, 300D This morning at a stoplight, I heard a low pitched vibration, almost a clunking sound, coming from the front right of the car. Got to work and opened the hood -- the air cleaner housing is sagging to the right and intermittently making contact with the wheel well sheet metal. I wedged some rolled-up cardboard between the air cleaner housing and the wheel well to temporarily silence this noise, but what do I need to repair this properly? Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] loose air cleaner, 300D
Maybe autohaus az? :) --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 2:17 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] loose air cleaner, 300D Who? Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 2:41 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] loose air cleaner, 300D Maybe Randy Steele? --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 1:30 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] loose air cleaner, 300D Hmm? Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 1:59 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] loose air cleaner, 300D I wonder where he could buy those? --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 12:36 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] loose air cleaner, 300D You need a new air cleaner bracket and mounts. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 1:11 PM Subject: [MBZ] loose air cleaner, 300D This morning at a stoplight, I heard a low pitched vibration, almost a clunking sound, coming from the front right of the car. Got to work and opened the hood -- the air cleaner housing is sagging to the right and intermittently making contact with the wheel well sheet metal. I wedged some rolled-up cardboard between the air cleaner housing and the wheel well to temporarily silence this noise, but what do I need to repair this properly? Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Heater question
You are probably right, but there is one way to at least treat the symptoms of the bad odor. When the AC flow in a W123 1981-85 300TD/CD/D smells like rotten eggs my indie tech empties a can of Lysol spray into the air intake (outside grille beneath the windshield) with the engine running, fan on HI in DEF mode. Tt seemed to cure the bad smell. What the heck, it can't hurt, right? On 10/17/07, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Andrew No, the same thing has happened the past 2 falls. Turning on the heat makes the car smell like rubber so it has to be padding or a gasket or something in the heater system. Not horrendous but it does then smell like an old car. I guess modern materials are more plastic and less rubber in the newer vehicles. I can live with it rather than trying to tear into the heater as I understand that to be a real big job based upon the reports of fan motor replacements. I just wondered if anyone had addressed the issue in the past and had any advice. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 12:15 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Heater question Randy, I assume you mean burning rubber and that this was not a problem was last winter. Does the smell occur if the engine is cold, or only when warmed up? If the latter, I would check under the hood or dash for any rubber parts that may be smoldering that could cause the bad smell. Perhaps one of hte belts? If it just smells like ordinary rubber try some lavender or a good quality air freshener! This is a sign of age. On 10/16/07, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My old 76 300D smells like rubber whenever I turn on the heat. Anyone out there have any ideas as to why and what might be done to alleviate that issue? My 68 Chevy pickup has a similar issue but I know why and that I actually caused it with that vehicle. I pulled the heater core on it and cleaned out the box etc. There was a rubber pad or gasket or whatever cushioning the core. It was in sad condition and I thought I was doing a good thing by replacing it with a chunk of carpet underlay. Bad idea. It smells of rubber as soon as one turns on the heat. I get a similar smell on the 300D but I have never had the heater apart. Don't know if anyone else has in the past. Is this a common complaint with these old cars or is there possibly something wrong with mine that might be corrected? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] loose air cleaner, 300D
Who? Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 3:27 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] loose air cleaner, 300D Maybe autohaus az? :) --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 2:17 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] loose air cleaner, 300D Who? Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 2:41 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] loose air cleaner, 300D Maybe Randy Steele? --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 1:30 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] loose air cleaner, 300D Hmm? Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 1:59 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] loose air cleaner, 300D I wonder where he could buy those? --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 12:36 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] loose air cleaner, 300D You need a new air cleaner bracket and mounts. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 1:11 PM Subject: [MBZ] loose air cleaner, 300D This morning at a stoplight, I heard a low pitched vibration, almost a clunking sound, coming from the front right of the car. Got to work and opened the hood -- the air cleaner housing is sagging to the right and intermittently making contact with the wheel well sheet metal. I wedged some rolled-up cardboard between the air cleaner housing and the wheel well to temporarily silence this noise, but what do I need to repair this properly? Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] loose air cleaner, 300D
Maybe that Rusty or Jabba dude, they are kind of shady though. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 2:44 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] loose air cleaner, 300D Who? Rusty Cullens ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 23, Issue 61
Allen wrote: There does happen to be a '91 Vanagon for sale nearby, can't tell what kind of shape its in from the ad. Claims to have had rebuilt heads (the need for this is not uncommon from what I recall). Other than the engine, are there any other problems that these vehicles are prone to? If you are getting a stock vanagon, later is better, as various small things improved along the way. 86 on are the best, '91 was the last year. (Actually, I thought it was '90, but I must be wrong.) The problem is the head gaskets leak, corrode the heads, and the heads need to be replaced. It was a design flaw that was never remedied, and for which there is really no cure. THey pretty much all do it, and since there are two heads, fixing 'em can be expensive. Check to see that the VW-specified coolant was used, and continue to use it and change it on schedule, which can slow down, but won't stop, the problem. Known weak points: --THe A/C units never performed very well, as they must blow the air all the way from the rear of the vehicle. Also, they're known for throwing belts. And since the van is hardly overpowered to begin with, they extract quite a penalty in performance. Most of us do without, although with diligence, they work OK. --Clutch masters leak, dripping brake fluid on your foot and the carpet. Not a huge job to replace. It's beneath the instrument cluster. --Heater lines can rust out. They run the length of the van. Someone out there makes ss replacements, however. --Waterboxers are a plumber's nightmare of cooling and radiator hoses, many of which look like octopi and most of which are NLA. Most of us end up replacing them with straight hose joined by sections of copper or pvc manifolds which we fabricate ourselves--not too tough, but time consuming. --The 4-speed transmissions had a flawed 3-4 slider design. If it is stiff shifting out of 4th gear, subtract $1500 from the price. There's a guy on the west coast who rebuilds them for about a grand a pop, installing a new, improved, VW-redesigned slider that won't break, and offers a 3 year warrantee: aatransaxle.com. The three- speed automatics are quite rugged and trouble free, tho I personally wouldn't want a vanagon with any fewer than 4 ratios. That's pretty much it. The Wasserboxer is the main problem. They're not particularly fuel efficient, and are pretty complex and fussy. The chassis and body, however, is damn near bullet proof, a pleasure to drive except in gusty crosswinds, and quite comfortable and capacious. I plan on keeping mine forever. THere are yahoo owners groups that are very helpful, and where I've gleaned all my limited knowledge. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: non US license plate
On 10/18/07, Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was in town out here in the boonies and saw a Volvo XC90 with what I suspect were European plates. I was unable to see anything that I could identify the country of origin. It was a tad shorter than a US plate, but much wider. I think it would fit nicely between the taillights of my W123. I live in Hamilton County, Indiana. For this state it's where the money is, for the most part. There are some supremely stupid people here when it comes to green. The whole Euro plate thing is all over out here. In fact on the way to work this afternoon I saw a Jeep Grand Cherokee!! with a Euro plate. As if it's a foreign car. *sighs* Stupid bloody wankers with too much bloody money. Ed -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Heater question
I have to admit that the smell of Lysol does not really turn me on. Not much better than the smell of warm rubber. I wonder if Fabreeze or something similar would work? I had a brother-in-law (now divorced by my sister) who used to douse the seats in his Lincoln with men's cologne. Not too bad once it settled in a bit but a bit overpowering just after he did it. Don't know if he could switch brands or if he was stuck on the first one after he did it. Brut, anyone? Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 2:44 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Heater question You are probably right, but there is one way to at least treat the symptoms of the bad odor. When the AC flow in a W123 1981-85 300TD/CD/D smells like rotten eggs my indie tech empties a can of Lysol spray into the air intake (outside grille beneath the windshield) with the engine running, fan on HI in DEF mode. Tt seemed to cure the bad smell. What the heck, it can't hurt, right? On 10/17/07, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Andrew No, the same thing has happened the past 2 falls. Turning on the heat makes the car smell like rubber so it has to be padding or a gasket or something in the heater system. Not horrendous but it does then smell like an old car. I guess modern materials are more plastic and less rubber in the newer vehicles. I can live with it rather than trying to tear into the heater as I understand that to be a real big job based upon the reports of fan motor replacements. I just wondered if anyone had addressed the issue in the past and had any advice. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 12:15 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Heater question Randy, I assume you mean burning rubber and that this was not a problem was last winter. Does the smell occur if the engine is cold, or only when warmed up? If the latter, I would check under the hood or dash for any rubber parts that may be smoldering that could cause the bad smell. Perhaps one of hte belts? If it just smells like ordinary rubber try some lavender or a good quality air freshener! This is a sign of age. On 10/16/07, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My old 76 300D smells like rubber whenever I turn on the heat. Anyone out there have any ideas as to why and what might be done to alleviate that issue? My 68 Chevy pickup has a similar issue but I know why and that I actually caused it with that vehicle. I pulled the heater core on it and cleaned out the box etc. There was a rubber pad or gasket or whatever cushioning the core. It was in sad condition and I thought I was doing a good thing by replacing it with a chunk of carpet underlay. Bad idea. It smells of rubber as soon as one turns on the heat. I get a similar smell on the 300D but I have never had the heater apart. Don't know if anyone else has in the past. Is this a common complaint with these old cars or is there possibly something wrong with mine that might be corrected? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: non US license plate
On 10/18/07, Ed Booher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are some supremely stupid people here when it comes to green. The whole Euro plate thing is all over out here. In fact on the way to work this afternoon I saw a Jeep Grand Cherokee!! with a Euro plate. As if it's a foreign car. *sighs* Stupid bloody wankers with too much bloody money. For some reason this reminds me of the Subaru (necessarily gas-powered, of course) I saw the other day with a Powered by Biodiesel sticker. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Heater question
Lot of problems with mold down here in damp Florida. Sprayed 409 or Fantastik in through the vents for years but it doesn't last too well and has to be sprayed again after a few weeks. Also use it on window air conditioners. Lysol sounds like a better solution since it's a germicide and will kill the mold. I'm going to try that. Thanks. Originally tried dilute Chlorox but it corroded the metal. Gerry '83 300D and 240D - Original Message - From: R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 4:09 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Heater question I have to admit that the smell of Lysol does not really turn me on. Not much better than the smell of warm rubber. I wonder if Fabreeze or something similar would work? I had a brother-in-law (now divorced by my sister) who used to douse the seats in his Lincoln with men's cologne. Not too bad once it settled in a bit but a bit overpowering just after he did it. Don't know if he could switch brands or if he was stuck on the first one after he did it. Brut, anyone? Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 2:44 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Heater question You are probably right, but there is one way to at least treat the symptoms of the bad odor. When the AC flow in a W123 1981-85 300TD/CD/D smells like rotten eggs my indie tech empties a can of Lysol spray into the air intake (outside grille beneath the windshield) with the engine running, fan on HI in DEF mode. Tt seemed to cure the bad smell. What the heck, it can't hurt, right? On 10/17/07, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Andrew No, the same thing has happened the past 2 falls. Turning on the heat makes the car smell like rubber so it has to be padding or a gasket or something in the heater system. Not horrendous but it does then smell like an old car. I guess modern materials are more plastic and less rubber in the newer vehicles. I can live with it rather than trying to tear into the heater as I understand that to be a real big job based upon the reports of fan motor replacements. I just wondered if anyone had addressed the issue in the past and had any advice. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 12:15 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Heater question Randy, I assume you mean burning rubber and that this was not a problem was last winter. Does the smell occur if the engine is cold, or only when warmed up? If the latter, I would check under the hood or dash for any rubber parts that may be smoldering that could cause the bad smell. Perhaps one of hte belts? If it just smells like ordinary rubber try some lavender or a good quality air freshener! This is a sign of age. On 10/16/07, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My old 76 300D smells like rubber whenever I turn on the heat. Anyone out there have any ideas as to why and what might be done to alleviate that issue? My 68 Chevy pickup has a similar issue but I know why and that I actually caused it with that vehicle. I pulled the heater core on it and cleaned out the box etc. There was a rubber pad or gasket or whatever cushioning the core. It was in sad condition and I thought I was doing a good thing by replacing it with a chunk of carpet underlay. Bad idea. It smells of rubber as soon as one turns on the heat. I get a similar smell on the 300D but I have never had the heater apart. Don't know if anyone else has in the past. Is this a common complaint with these old cars or is there possibly something wrong with mine that might be corrected? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Heater question
There is some stuff that foams up to spray in a duct or heat exchanger to clean/disinfect it. You can get it at Lowes or HD in the AC filter section (or at least I saw it there at some point in the past). Spray it in and fill up the space then let it sit for some period til it goes flat. --R archer wrote: Lot of problems with mold down here in damp Florida. Sprayed 409 or Fantastik in through the vents for years but it doesn't last too well and has to be sprayed again after a few weeks. Also use it on window air conditioners. Lysol sounds like a better solution since it's a germicide and will kill the mold. I'm going to try that. Thanks. Originally tried dilute Chlorox but it corroded the metal. Gerry '83 300D and 240D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Heater question
On 10/18/07, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is some stuff that foams up to spray in a duct or heat exchanger to clean/disinfect it. You can get it at Lowes or HD in the AC filter section (or at least I saw it there at some point in the past). Spray it in and fill up the space then let it sit for some period til it goes flat. Aren't you guys talking about two different things? Rubber smell vs mildew smell---inorganic contamination of the HVAC system vs. organic contamination? Different diseases, different cures. I myself spent years chasing down what I thought was mildew in my 300D before concluding that it was actually disintegrating foam from the recirculation flap taking a sauna on the heater core. Symptom was an acrid, burning, rubbery smell---quite different from the smell of mildew or mold growth due to moisture in the HVAC system (usually clogged evaporator drains), which is usually compared to an old gym locker. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: non US license plate
On 10/18/07, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For some reason this reminds me of the Subaru (necessarily gas-powered, of course) I saw the other day with a Powered by Biodiesel sticker. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. I would have called him on that Hey Dude, here's four free gallons of pure B-100. Let me just dump that right in there for ya!! Ed -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Heater question
I think you are absolutely right but on the other hand, trying to deodarize seems like a good idea in any event. My F150 has the mouldy smell. My 300D has the rubbery smell. Different biology but still an unpleasent smell. The disinfectant is more likely to be successful on the mould but I am not anxious to tear the heater apart on the 300D - especially since I don't drive it in the winter. I only get a little bit of heater use spring and fall. No problem with smell when running the AC so far. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alex Chamberlain Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 4:15 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Heater question On 10/18/07, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is some stuff that foams up to spray in a duct or heat exchanger to clean/disinfect it. You can get it at Lowes or HD in the AC filter section (or at least I saw it there at some point in the past). Spray it in and fill up the space then let it sit for some period til it goes flat. Aren't you guys talking about two different things? Rubber smell vs mildew smell---inorganic contamination of the HVAC system vs. organic contamination? Different diseases, different cures. I myself spent years chasing down what I thought was mildew in my 300D before concluding that it was actually disintegrating foam from the recirculation flap taking a sauna on the heater core. Symptom was an acrid, burning, rubbery smell---quite different from the smell of mildew or mold growth due to moisture in the HVAC system (usually clogged evaporator drains), which is usually compared to an old gym locker. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: non US license plate
I run B100 in my vergasser toyota van. Are you referring to the old type Toyota van where you're sitting on top of the engine? Now that's a funky vehicle! They are very dependable though. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] loose air cleaner, 300D
http://www.autohausaz.com/ ??? On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 12:59:27 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder where he could buy those? --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Okie Storms
Kaleb.did you survive last night's storms? Looks like Tulsa got thumped. Bob R. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] production costs
Meaning that they focused on costs rather than quality, resulting in reliability issues. I guess they put pressure on the component suppliers to lower prices. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes. That was the new model year that a Mercedes exec was bragging about reducing production costs by 35%. Meaning just what? RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300D valuation
Another thing to consider is to ask them to get a salvage bid for the vehicle, rather than just arbirtrarily taking 20% or so off the top for you taking the vehicle. You are under no obligation to sell them your car(cass). You have no contract with them, this thing will settle whenever both parties are happy (enough) with the terms, whatever you both end up making them. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] production costs
Yes. That was the new model year that a Mercedes exec was bragging about reducing production costs by 35%. Meaning just what? RLE ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Previa? Perhaps not.....
Were I to want a 7-passenger van and didn't want to go to a lot of trouble, I'd probably get a stock Toyota Previa with a stick shift--they're mid-engined, handle very well, have legendary Toyota quality, get decent mileage and power out of their 2.5 liter 4, and have very flexible interiors. If you're willing to get an automatic, you can get a turbo version of the same engine for a bit more power. When Previas were new, a friend bought one and it gave them good service. And, I drove it from Seattle to Portland OR about that time and found it quite adequate. The disqualifier was that, of all the minivans in it's class, it had the poorest crash performance of all of them. When that little factoid surfaced, they sold it soon after. RLE ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] loose air cleaner, 300D
180088208750 Fits 123 chassis non turbo models only. This includes 240D, 300D, 300CD to 1981 and 300TD to 1980. E-bay Ed in Chicago I bought the turbo kit $15.+ shipping Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: NAPA? Pep Boys? AutoZone? (just kidding). Rusty Cullens writes: Hmm? Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin, work To: Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 1:59 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] loose air cleaner, 300D I wonder where he could buy those? --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Rusty Cullens To: Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 12:36 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] loose air cleaner, 300D You need a new air cleaner bracket and mounts. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The home of Okiebenz
No. Kleb: post that pick of your back yard again, will ya? The one you took out of the upstairs window. On 10/18/07, Hendrik Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is this Kalebs place? http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=1418582011size=o ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New Mercedes Diesel/Piezio
And they would more than likely cost more each than an old 300D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Piezio to me was: hit a rock, generate a spark. This would be the opposite; provide a spark will move a valve, a glorified solenoid valve. These electronic injectors are so quick that they permit 3 to 5 firings per power stroke, which controls the severity of the flame front travel and gets more power while reducing the noise level and emissions. They respond (open and close) much faster, allowing more control of the injection cycle. Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 264 K miles 98 ML 320, 152 K miles ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Who
Randy Steele. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New Mercedes Diesel/Piezio
Thx Jim - Excellent explanation. Now I understand why Piezio is the best way to drive an injector. That's quite a leap forward. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 2:31 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] New Mercedes Diesel/Piezio Piezio to me was: hit a rock, generate a spark. This would be the opposite; provide a spark will move a valve, a glorified solenoid valve. These electronic injectors are so quick that they permit 3 to 5 firings per power stroke, which controls the severity of the flame front travel and gets more power while reducing the noise level and emissions. They respond (open and close) much faster, allowing more control of the injection cycle. Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 264 K miles 98 ML 320, 152 K miles ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.15.0/1077 - Release Date: 10/18/2007 9:54 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 94 E420
Actually the third generation 124's, they had a bit of an upgrade in
89/90 and put panels on the bottom of the doors and a few other things.
Wray Stanley wrote:
Alex Chamberlain wrote:
It's the second-generation ('94-'95) 124, to be precise. In '94 was
the Great Renaming (when the letters went before the numbers). Also
an across-the-board cost-cutting program,
Yes. That was the new model year that a Mercedes exec was bragging about
reducing production costs by 35%.
Wray
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[MBZ] The home of Okiebenz
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Re: [MBZ] New Mercedes Diesel
Re: Piezioelectric is the ability of some materials (notably crystals and certain ceramics) to generate an electric potential. The material has two modes - if you apply pressure or deform it, it will generate electricity, per the article. However, if you apply electricity to it, it will deform, or move. Hence, you can use it to very quickly open and close a valve -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: non US license plate
I run B100 in my vergasser toyota van. Half gallon every so often. It likes it. clay On 18 Oct 2007, at 14:21, Ed Booher wrote: On 10/18/07, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For some reason this reminds me of the Subaru (necessarily gas-powered, of course) I saw the other day with a Powered by Biodiesel sticker. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. I would have called him on that Hey Dude, here's four free gallons of pure B-100. Let me just dump that right in there for ya!! Ed -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Reliability/1994
Yes. That was the new model year that a Mercedes exec was bragging about reducing production costs by 35%. Meaning just what? Meaning that they focused on costs rather than quality, resulting in reliability issues. I guess they put pressure on the component suppliers to lower prices. That was a trick question and you fell for it, quoting the party line without any real knowledge. I owned two 201s and both had endless shop visits while in warranty and the 2.6's engine got new pistons at 70K miles paid for by MB. When I bought my '95 C280, the number of problems plummeted and it was clear that the car's components were better built than the previous model. That's my personal experience with the cars. This was before the wiring harness problems showed up, of course. As far as W202s costing 35% less to build, this is the first time I've heard that one. What I do know is this. Right about that time, Porsche was in dire straits because their cars had become so costly that sales were in the dumper. And so they hired a Japanese consulting firm to help them survive. The factory and supply lines were revamped with just-in-time parts instead of stacks of stuff all over the place. The old-timers either went with the program or retired. No choice. And from that reorganization, Porsche's unit cost dropped 30% and the company pulled out of it. Not only that, soon after they produced their very first no-defects car in their history. The rework department's workload almost disappeared. And now, their profit per unit is the highest in the industry, worldwide. The actual cost vs. quality screwup was in the W203 and W211 models and my experience with my '01 C320 bears that out. I expect my two day old W204 to establish a new benchmark in MB reliablity, based on pre-production testing. The purpose of this tale is that I have suspected that Mercedes also took a little advice from somebody about that very same time. Just speculation, you understand. RLE ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
